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thank you forjoining us. us and mexican officials met on wednesday to try to address a growing number of migrants crossing their shared border. the us's top diplomat secretary of state antony blinken met with president andres manuel lopez obrador in mexico city. mr blinken was also accompained by homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. the high—level meeting came as pressure grows on the white house to stem the influx of migrants to the us. us officials said last week that up to 10,000 people were crossing the southern border every day. it's being felt in border states, including texas, where the republican governor has sent 75,000 migrants from that state to mostly democrat—run cities since last april. one of those cities is new york city. its mayor issued an executive order on wednesday, requiring charter buses transporting migrants to provide a 32—hours notice in advance of their arrival into new york. joining me now to discuss the meeting is our mexico
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correspondent, will grant. he isjoining us live from mexico city. can you tell us what are the significant outcomes of this meeting between antony blinken and the homeland security secretary and the mexican president? i homeland security secretary and the mexican president?— the mexican president? i think these are very _ the mexican president? i think these are very much _ the mexican president? i think these are very much crisis - these are very much crisis talks. they are organised hastily between christmas and new year, that is unusual in and of itself. we do not know the specifics of exactly what elements of this crisis they spoke about because we are not allowed to speak to the delegation afterwards. there was no media conference or press conference. we don't know if there was any major policy decisions reached because they have not announced any. we find it unlikely they would have been very clearly there is value in sitting down face—to—face between the two sides when there was all this going on at the us border with mexico, some 10,000 people a
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day being detained and, of course, a caravan of somewhere between six and 10,000 migrants from central america and other nations making its way through mexican territory at this moment. clearly there was benefit by both sides to discussing this face—to—face. lawmakers in the us if they want to see mexico do more to curb some of that immigration. how does mexico see that? mexico has consistently said via president 0brador be willing to help, they are prepared to do more in terms of what the abidin administration was in terms of what they call contagion strategies. that to me means containment strategies, stopping people coming up from guatemala in the first place, turning them away from the border if they do not have the right paperwork. i think what president 0brador was a c in return is a quid pro quo in terms of improved us
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relations with cuba, but israel, a reduction in the sanctions on those nations. he is big on the idea that more needs to be done in the migrant countries of origin is to dis— incentivise the idea they would leave in the first place. i think the abidin administration would argue it has lifted sanctions on venezuela recently, has always kept up talks on migration with cuba even when the two nations are talking about other things. we want to see whether or not some of the things that president 0brador wants, will be prepared to do in what is of course election year.— to do in what is of course election ear. ~ . ., election year. we have a minute left and a _ election year. we have a minute left and a big — election year. we have a minute left and a big question, - election year. we have a minute left and a big question, but - left and a big question, but remind us again what is driving these large flows of migrants up these large flows of migrants up to the us? at these large flows of migrants up to the us?— up to the us? at this point, there are — up to the us? at this point, there are several _ up to the us? at this point, there are several things. i up to the us? at this point, l there are several things. one is a lack of funding here in mexico for migrant services and other security forces and police who deal them. another
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is criminal organisations are pushing the idea that this is a very good moment to go. people feel they will miss their window if they do not go right now. of course, there are factors from below as well. 2024 looks to be a bitterly difficult year for many nations in the region as well, so the push factors are sending people out of their countries while the pull factors of the us, family members, who have automated in the us, are rapidly as well. is a combination of all factors at once. , ., ., combination of all factors at once, , ., ., ., " combination of all factors at once. , ., ., ., ~ ., once. great to talk to you. thank you _ once. great to talk to you. thank you so _ once. great to talk to you. thank you so much. - the biden administration is facing calls from both democrats and republicans to address the situation. i spoke to republican congressman tony gonzales, who represents the border city of el paso and is a member of the homeland security committee. i want to start with getting your thoughts on the visit paid by the secretary of state and the homeland security secretary to mexico to discuss ways to curb immigration, from what you
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have heard and seen, do you think an important progress has been made?— think an important progress has been made? ., ~ , ., ., ., been made? thank you for having me i think — been made? thank you for having me i think it _ been made? thank you for having me i think it is _ been made? thank you for having me i think it is important - been made? thank you for having me i think it is important that - me i think it is important that the secretary of state make that trip to mexico city, for too long the administration has relied on dhs secretary to handle a lot of this, so i think that is a positive development, but talk is cheap. it is all about the results and it cannot just it is all about the results and it cannotjust be everyone is doing a greatjob. 0ften it cannotjust be everyone is doing a greatjob. often in the diplomatic situations, you talk about the pleasantries. you don't want to get you some of the issues. that is to be tangible results out of there. what i have specifically been asking the mexican officials for is for them to curb humanitarian and work visas for people that have no intention of using those visas. what is “p of using those visas. what is up happening is people from all over the world use mexico city, get this unitarian visas, legally a transit through mexico city enemy illegally enter the us. i mexico city enemy illegally enter the us.— mexico city enemy illegally enter the us. ., ., ., enter the us. i want to ask you
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about the _ enter the us. i want to ask you about the impact _ enter the us. i want to ask you about the impact of _ enter the us. i want to ask you about the impact of the - enter the us. i want to ask you about the impact of the record | about the impact of the record number of migration. your district lies along the us—mexico border. how has it affected your constituency? i represent over 800 miles of the us—mexico border, nearly half of the overall southern border, my district has been at the epicentre of this crisis as we have seen everything that this water crisis touches turns to ash and sadly so many americans have been impacted by this, the high—speed chases throughout towns, our schools going into lockdown, shortages of basic emergency services, imagine calling your local hospital in an emergency in them saying they do not have any beds. these are the issues that my community is dealing with. i also see my community is a very warm and welcoming and we believe in the american dream, we believe in legal immigration, iam we believe in legal immigration, i am a proponent of legal immigration and have encouraged currency administrator to work on that but the chaos of this happening
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at the border, this crisis, is doing the exact opposite. putting those that are trying to do with the right way, the legal way, at the back of the line and encouraging those who are doing it illegally to continue to come over to our country. continue to come over to our count . ., continue to come over to our country-— continue to come over to our count . ., , , ., country. one of the things you have been _ country. one of the things you have been campaigning - country. one of the things you have been campaigning for - country. one of the things you have been campaigning for is. have been campaigning for is the repatriation flights for those who are not eligible for asylum in the us and the process of applying some of those asylum standards in the us as well. many migrants who were crossing over to the us come from countries whether us does not have diplomatic relations, venezuela, cuba. west of these migrants go? that is artl west of these migrants go? that is partly true- — west of these migrants go? that is partly true. if _ west of these migrants go? that is partly true. if you _ west of these migrants go? twat is partly true. if you peel the onion back gets more complicated. many of these from venezuela and cuba, they have already fled venezuela years ago, so they are actually living in chile and colombia and panama, living in other parts of central and south america. what is happening is
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they are making the trek from those parts of south america and central america and coming down and then getting rid of the documentation right before they come over. those people that do not qualify for asylum, those people that are fleeing economic persecution, should be immediately sent back to their countries of origin. congressmen, as you know, many people who are fleeing are also leaving behind situations where they are facing abject poverty, violence and the mexican president said in a press conference today the following. translation:— conference today the following. translation: then need more su- ort translation: then need more sunport and _ translation: then need more support and that _ translation: then need more support and that is _ translation: then need more support and that is what - translation: then need more support and that is what the - support and that is what the congress should be proposing, with all due respect, such as authorise resources for cooperation and support for poor people in latin america and the caribbean. he poor people in latin america and the caribbean.— and the caribbean. he is addressing _ and the caribbean. he is addressing the - and the caribbean. he is addressing the push - and the caribbean. he is - addressing the push factors, that are causing people to flee their homes. what you make of that comment? i their homes. what you make of that comment?— that comment? i have visited man of that comment? i have visited many of these _ that comment? i have visited many of these countries, - that comment? i have visited many of these countries, i i that comment? i have visited i many of these countries, i have visited one of the poorest countries, i spent 20 years in
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the military tribunal over the world twice over. what a marla certainly has its concerns. el salvador, venezuela, the list goes on. i believe it is time for the us to make an investment in our backyards in a central and south america and we do that by enforcing our laws, people have to respect our laws, and by working with these countries in order to build cooperation.- these countries in order to build cooperation. right now there was — build cooperation. right now there was none _ build cooperation. right now there was none of— build cooperation. right now there was none of that. - build cooperation. right now there was none of that. one | there was none of that. one more question about the politics of immigration because senate republicans have not signed off on and a package for ukraine and want border funding in return. they have not been an agreement yet and you are calling on the house, and they have treated the following. what is your response to that accusation? to those who say you are trying to violate the rights of migrants? fin
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you are trying to violate the rights of migrants?- you are trying to violate the rights of migrants? on one side ou will rights of migrants? on one side you will have — rights of migrants? on one side you will have some _ rights of migrants? on one side you will have some members i rights of migrants? on one side. you will have some members say whatever package they comes together does not go far enough. the other side, you have another group of members who say it has gone too far. what i can tell you is for decades we have done nothing. nothing is unacceptable. nothing is unacceptable. nothing is unacceptable. nothing is dangerous to the american people stop the amount of people coming over that we simply do not know, many seeking a better opportunity, but also bad actors embedded in there. what i have been encouraging and pushing and working, democrats and republicans alike, is for a border security package and national security package that supports our allies but also supports our allies but also supports our allies but also supports our border here at home. i think we can accomplish that now more than ever. it is needed, well past point and i think the american public deserve to feel safe in our own country. deserve to feel safe in our own count . ., ., deserve to feel safe in our own count . ., ~ ,, deserve to feel safe in our own count . ., ~ . deserve to feel safe in our own count . ., . ., country. thank you so much for shafinu country. thank you so much for sharing your — country. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts - country. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with - country. thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us l sharing your thoughts with us to your bbc news. the israeli military says it has carried out strikes against at least 200 hamas targets in the past 24 hours.
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it's also reporting that it has destroyed a tunnel network under and around rantisi hospital in northern gaza. in a social media post, the israel defense forces said: meanwhile, the israeli war cabinet minister, benny gantz, has warned that israel could open up a new front against hezbollah on the northern border, which is shared with lebanon, if the lebanese government does not do more to stop the militant group. there are fears of a spillover of the war in the region. earlier, the israeli government said the bodies of 80 palestinian men have been returned to gaza and buried in a mass grave in rafah. the hamas—run health ministray says at least 195 people have been killed in the past 24 hours. 0ur correspondent shamaa khalil has this report. and a warning, you may find it distressing. no funeral, no dignified burial, no tombstone.
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a bulldozer carries their bodies into a mass grave... ..theirfinal resting place. israeli forces are expanding their ground offensive into the densely populated urban refugee camps in central gaza. and this is the scene at the neighbouring al aqsa hospital. 0verwhelmed, they have had to treat the injured on the floor and in hallways. across gaza at the moment, health capacity is at about 20% of what it was 80 or so days ago. so almost all of the hospital beds, almost all of the hospital services, have stopped functioning. 0n foot, donkey carts or crammed onto the back of trucks, those who fled from northern gaza have come here for safety, but the war has chased them out again. heavy bombardment continues in the south and there aren't many places left to go. israel says the war will last for months and insists the aims are clear.
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translation: the next stages of the fighting i will also be powerful, deep and surprising. the campaign will continue and will be expanded as needed to additional locations and arenas. in the west bank, an israeli air strike killed six palestinians. the military says they were armed militants. locals deny it. this, as the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas, has warned that the area could implode. a new refugee camp has now been set up for those twice displaced — first from northern gaza and now from the centre. this man lost six family members. "0ur houses have been destroyed," he says. "this is what's left. "it's worse than hell here." the hamas—run health ministry says more than 21,000 people have now died in gaza.
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those who've survived are running out of places to flee. shaimaa khalil, bbc news, jerusalem. israel is facing growing global criticism over the number of civilian deaths. the un has described the expansion of israel's military campaign as very worrying after israeli strikes reportedly killed dozens in burej, nuseriat and maghazi refugee camps in recent days. the palestinian president says the situation in gaza is "beyond a war of annihilation," calling the devastation a "grave crime". the us secretary of state — antony blinken — is expected to visit israel in early january to discuss how the palestinian territory will be governed when the war ends. and turkey's president lashed out against israel at an event in ankara on wednesday, comparing the country's actions in gaza to atrocities committed by the nazis. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at one story making news in the uk.
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storm gerrit brought major disruption to large parts of the country, bringing high winds and heavy rain and upending travel for thousands of people on the move after christmas. parts of scotland have been hit particularly hard. in the highlands, a major incident was declared, after long lines of vehicles got stranded in the snow. 0ur correspondent shona mccallum has more. it has been a while day of weather in scotland, faking the rail, road, ferries and flights. here at glasgow central station, network rail have told us they will be inspecting the lines, looking for things like flood damage, debris and fallen trees, and that will take some time backs because it can only be done in the daylight hours. they have confirmed to us the lines that will still be affected include aberdeen dundee, inverness perth, aberdeen and inverness, the west highlands and the far north, so still quite a bit of disruption. north, so still quite a bit of disruption-— north, so still quite a bit of disrution. , disruption. elsewhere, in fife, there were _ disruption. elsewhere, in fife, there were severe _ disruption. elsewhere, in fife, there were severe flooding - disruption. elsewhere, in fife,| there were severe flooding and some residents had to be
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rescued from their homes. specialist boats were brought in to help. you're live with bbc news. the new york times is suing microsoft and 0penai for copyright infringement. it's a significant escalation in the battle over unauthorised use of published work to train artificial intelligence technologies. the times alleges millions of articles of original journalism were used without their permission to develop chatgpt and similar platforms. the newspaper is seeking damages, although an exact monetary amount was not mentioned. it also wants an order for the companies to stop using its content, and destroy any chatbot models or training data, which use copyrighted material. the defendants have not yet responded to the lawsuit. what comes next could test the boundaries of how text, images, and other online content can be used by tech companies to develop their own products. earlier, we heard from technology reporter, ryan mac, who covered the story for the new york times.
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companies like 0penai, you know, these companies with massive, billion—dollar valuations with billions of dollars in funding, have essentially scraped the web, and taken content, a lot of it copyrighted, for free, and taken content, a lot of it copyrighted, forfree, and used it in its technologies. and, you know, the new york times is going to court to argue that that wasn't legal. there are ongoing lawsuits from arthur creative industries. you look at something like actors that have sued 0penai, authors, fiction authors and nonfiction, and this is sort of the beginning. getty images has sued another ai company that uses its images to train generative aia to create realistic images, so i think we are at the forefront of this. it will remain to be seen what happens. former us president donald trump will be allowed to appear on the ballot next year in the swing state of michigan.
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that's after the state's supreme court decided not to hear an appeal from voters, who argued the former president should be barred from michigan's ballots, because they claim he violated the constitution by engaging in insurrection. last week, the colorado supreme court ruled to ban trump from ballots in that state, igniting anger in the republican party, with claims that the next election will be rigged. the colorado republican party has now filed an appeal to the us supreme court, in the hopes to get trump back on the ballot. earlier, i spoke with the top elections official in michigan, democratic secretary of state, jocelyn benson. secretary benson, you have been clear that you don't think it is the role of secretaries of state to determine the eligibility of a candidate, but rather the courts themselves. so what you think of michigan's ruling? ! so what you think of michigan's rulin: ? ! ., «a so what you think of michigan's rulin: ? ! . ~', ., so what you think of michigan's rulin: ? ! . ., . ruling? ! thanks for having me, and secretary — ruling? ! thanks for having me, and secretary state, _ ruling? ! thanks for having me, and secretary state, and - ruling? ! thanks for having me, and secretary state, and the i and secretary state, and the chief election minister for the state of michigan and i want to make sure that people can go to make sure that people can go to make sure that people can go to make sure our elections are secure and to make sure that our election results are an accurate reflection of the one
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of the people. so in doing that job, i also at times have to play the referee and ensure that, where the facts and law are clear, like the age of a candidate or whether they have submitted enough signatures. then i can play a role in developing ballot access. but in terms of this one where there is a new interpretation of the constitution on the line, as well as several nuanced facts and legalities, those types of interpretations are very much what the courts for, and their responsibility to do. under michigan law it is actually quite clear, i have an operation as the court has affirmed to put anyone on the primary ballot who is generally advocated for candidate for president. generally advocated by the national news media to be a potential presidential candidate, so follow that law. the former president donald trump would be under the ballot under the law and the supreme court of michigan has affirmed that decision.— that decision. secretary benson. _ that decision. secretary benson, you _ that decision. secretary benson, you know- that decision. secretary benson, you know that| that decision. secretary i benson, you know that the colorado supreme court ruled differently on the former president's eligibility. we
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have now seen that the colorado republican party will appeal that to the supreme court, but do you understand the ruling in colorado, while it was decided that way? colorado, while it was decided that wa ? , , , ., colorado, while it was decided thatwa ? , _, that way? yes, every state has different laws, _ that way? yes, every state has different laws, and _ that way? yes, every state has different laws, and california, | different laws, and california, sorry, colorado is unique, and that they do allow citizens to challenge the eligibility under a lot of these nuances and that is exactly what citizens in colorado did, and the court had an evidentiary hearing and the supreme court of colorado made its hearing. that will be appealed ably to the us supreme court and we have said all along knowing that every state will go through its own process unless that ultimately will be the us supreme court who will be making the final substantive call on donald trump's eligibility to be on the presidential ballot both during the primary and during the general. and interestingly, our supreme court in michigan also noted that while there is one set of determinations and factors that could be considered now, nine, eight, ten months from now, when and if there is a nomination process and donald trump is nominated to be the general
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election candidate, might be another set of rulings as well in states and ultimately at the federal level. 50 in states and ultimately at the federal level.— in states and ultimately at the federal level. so let's go down the road then _ federal level. so let's go down the road then and _ federal level. so let's go down the road then and look- federal level. so let's go down the road then and look at i federal level. so let's go down| the road then and look at that. if, for example, donald trump is the nominee for the general election, let's say he is also perhaps convicted on one of the election interference cases, either the federal one or the state of georgia, you think this would then end up in the court in michigan again? it is very likely — court in michigan again? it is very likely that _ court in michigan again? it is very likely that it _ court in michigan again? it 3 very likely that it would end “p very likely that it would end up in the quarter michigan again and again ultimately at the us supreme court. again, we have to remember, for matters like this which involve a interpretation, a novel interpretation, a novel interpretation of the us constitution, it is the us supreme court whose job it is to ultimately make that call and make that determination, but yes, there are a number of variables and facts that have yet to play out and could very well play out in the next eight to nine months, that is why in some cases some states are looking at this, like minnesota, as a premature determination in the primary process but have not ruled out a determination further on down the line if donald trump becomes the general election
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nominee. ., ., nominee. you said your role as chief election _ nominee. you said your role as chief election official _ nominee. you said your role as chief election official in - chief election official in michigan is like being a referee, but i wonder, it must also be putting you and other secretary of state in a difficult position to have this novel question before the courts? ., , ., courts? indeed, it has, not “ust courts? indeed, it has, not just us. — courts? indeed, it has, not just us. but— courts? indeed, it has, not just us, but devotees i courts? indeed, it has, notj just us, but devotees enter courts? indeed, it has, not- just us, but devotees enter the political parties. i think everyone in this case needs clarity. i strongly believe the institutions to provide that clarity are judicial institutions and that is how the process is ultimately playing out. but at the same time, the republican party needs clarity, devotees need clarity, election officials need clarity as to who to put on the ballot so the sooner the us supreme court can hear these arguments and make a ruling on the merits of this candidate's eligibility under the constitution, the better off all of us will be, voters, the republican party and secretaries of state in ensuring the law is followed and the constitution is applied. and the constitution is applied-— and the constitution is a- lied. applied. something in the detroit news _ applied. something in the detroit news recently i applied. something in the i detroit news recently reporting on audio recordings of a phone call from 2020, in which the
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former president and also the republican national committee chair ronna mcdaniel try to pressure officials in the state of michigan not to certify the vote, and i saw that you wrote an article just a few days ago in the daily beast that was titled, i michigan's chief election official. trump's still a threat to democracy so let's be prepared. i'm wondering because your position is also an elected position, you are a democrat, if you think the former president is a threat to democracy, do you think he should be on the ballot? ., �* , ., ., ballot? that's a great question. _ ballot? that's a great question. first i ballot? that's a great question. first it i ballot? that's a great question. first it is i ballot? that's a great - question. first it is important to note i, as many of my colleagues in battle ground states, where an actual witness to the very real attempts to undermine the will of the people in our states, so we do not take this issue lately. we take very seriously, and in many ways decision is notjust whether the constitution makes donald trump ineligible to run, its who should make that it's who should make that decision, and when should that decision, and when should that decision be made. and that's really where the law has been, in my view, quite clear, the who is the courts, and the one
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is either now or in the general election phase, and so i can certainly tell my story, as i have come and talk about what i witnessed, but the idea that one state official or politician unilaterally should be able to determine a nuanced and factually, at this point, ambiguous decision, is really not what our three branches of government have been created to enable. it is squarely in the courts to make these legal and factual determinations and ultimately that's the way it's going to play out for everyone, and nationwide.— and nationwide. secretary benson. _ and nationwide. secretary benson, it's _ and nationwide. secretary benson, it's been - and nationwide. secretary benson, it's been great i and nationwide. secretary| benson, it's been great to and nationwide. secretary i benson, it's been great to get your perspective on bbc news. thank you so much forjoining us. thank you so much for “oining us. ., thank you so much for “oining us, ., thank you so much for “oining us. . . ., thank you so much for “oining us. thanks so much for having me. us. thanks so much for having me- just _ us. thanks so much for having me. just before _ we go... the makers of the star wars films are suing a car wash in chile. the shop, on the outskirts of the capital santiago, is called star wash, and has attendants dressed as characters including the mandalorian, chewbacca and darth vader. lucasfilm claims the themed car wash is plagiarising its multi—million dollar franchise and people might think it is affiliated with them. the owners of the car wash
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argue the production company's copyright covers products such as toys, furniture and nonalcoholic drinks, but does not extend to cleaning cars. that is our show this hour. we will be back at the top of the next hour with more on the top headlines. thank you for watching. i am sumi somaskanda in washington. stay with us. hello. storm gerrit has certainly made its presence felt across the uk, with a combination of significant snow, flooding, rain and some exceptionally strong winds. just a selection of the gusts recorded during wednesday and on into the evening. wind gusts of close to 90mph in the northern isles. now, on the satellite picture, this storm looks beautiful, this swirl of cloud here. the main body of the wet and windy weather is now sliding away northeastwards, up towards scandinavia, but low pressure is still firmly in charge. lots of isobars on this chart. that means it is going to stay
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windy for many of us during thursday, and there will be lots of showers. those showers heavy, possibly thundery, wintry over hills in the north of the uk. across england, wales and northern ireland, some very gusty winds, gusting to 40, 50, maybe 60mph around some irish sea coasts, but certainly not as windy as it has been across scotland. temperature—wise, well, 5 or 6 degrees in the north of scotland, 12 or 13 in south wales and southern england, and then, as we head through thursday night, there will be further showers or longer spells of rain. still some wintry showers mixing in across the northern half of the uk with this northerly wind kicking in. that will bring a somewhat chillier feel. in fact, i think we'll see quite a lot of rain, sleet and snow developing in northern scotland by the start of friday morning. that is a sign of things to come. we'll see this showery and, at times, wintry, weather continuing to affect northern parts of scotland with a strong northerly wind. pretty windy in other areas as well. a band of showers across northern ireland, into northern england, something wintry mixing in here over higher ground, sunshine and showers further south.
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a slightly chillier feel to the weather on friday, and then into saturday, here comes our next weather system. some heavy rain in places where we really do not need it. some snow developing over high ground in northern england and scotland. we could see some snow to quite low levels for a time in scotland. 5 degrees for aberdeen, 12 degrees for plymouth, and so low pressure will be firmly in charge of our weather as we head towards the end of the year, towards the new year's eve celebrations. in fact, this low could well bring another bout of very windy weather indeed. so this is the forecast through new year's eve and into new year's day. it looks quite unsettled.
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