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tv   Influential with Katty Kay  BBC News  December 29, 2023 3:30am-4:01am GMT

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ina, i'm so happy to meet you. thank you so much for having me. i've really looked forward to this. what a space! thank you. this is so lovely. thank you for having us here. this is wonderful. this is... this is your work. i live right next—door. this is your store. and this is my office. yeah. so the house is just there. you have a very short commute. a very short commute. sometimes the rabbits get in the way, but, you know, usually it's fairly... fairly traffic free. i feel like i know the space because i've watched so many videos. you don't have any sense of the scale. you don't. when i first told jeffrey i was going to build a kitchen here, i think he imagined, like, a little kitchen. and he kept seeing this thing go up and up and up. and he was like, "what are you building here?!" is it a pleasure to cook in here still? oh, it's just wonderful! and i actually think good architecture makes you better at whatever you're doing. i walk in every day and i think, "i can't believe
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i get to work here." and itjust makes me like show up more. you feel happy being in this space. i can see that. and i'm actually quite... when i cook, i'm quite manic about cleaning up as i go along, unlike my husband, who leaves a sort of minor nuclear disaster. that's me! iam... how can you cook like that? ..a total disaster. and then ijust throw everything in the sink and it's a big pile of dishes. and then wejust... we work our way through it. by the way, you have so many cookbooks. i have a few. out of the corner of my eye... i collect cookbooks, but nothing like on the scale that you do. i'm obsessive. can we have a peek? can we have a look? come on. i love that. this is my collection of things that i use almost all the time. if i'm looking for... like, what would a good french bavette, like a flank steak be? i'll just start looking in french cookbooks and just say, "oh, that's interesting. "julia child would do this and patricia wells would do
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"that," and just kind of collect information for myself and then i'll put them all away and just start cooking. and you still refer to cookbooks? i do. yeah, ido. yeah. i mean, there are so many great cookbooks. why not? ok, let's go and sit. so, we're going to have a drink. yes. thank you. i've made some watermelon lemonade. yum! i'm working on it for my next book, so it's a process. so am i a guinea pig? you're a guinea pig? exactly. this smell... this is from the garden? it's from the garden. yeah. so what have we got? so we've got watermelon lemonade, a little strawberry in it... mm—hm. ..and poured over ice. how easy is that? i'm thinking i can do this. do you think i have enough mint here? ithink... ithink we... we could just grow a mint bush in there. 0h, cheers! so happy to see you. thank you so much for having us. that's great. i can taste the strawberry. i'm surprised that i can taste the strawberry, too. not bad. and what i'm always looking for is layers of flavour. not too many layers, but that you can taste them all the same way.
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the watermelon, the lemon and the strawberry. you get the watermelon first. and then the lemon. which is what i want. and the hint of strawberry. a hint of strawberry. right. and then a smell of mint. and the smell of mint. and it looks beautiful, too. how would it be with a shot of vodka in it? i happen to know! and it's delicious! 0k, afterfilming, guys, when we are no longer on public television, we hit it... a little slosh might fall in there. i'm wondering if it's a little thick. i might like it a little thinner. it's... it's slightly slurpee—ish. i'm going to try something. so what would you do? add a bit more lemonade? add a little more water. no, definitely don't want more lemon. let me get some water. we're testing recipes while we go here. you know what you could do? what? would you ever put a tiny bit of soda water in it? that's a good idea. or not? shall we do that? look at that! i helped. i've got katty kay testing recipes for me. that's something i'm going to take home, that i encouraged ina garten to change a recipe,
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and she listened. if it's bad, i'm taking no responsibility, by the way. that's a great idea. i like that. this is a very at home kitchen. ifeel very at home in here. slosh it around. yeah. 0k. actually, i like the colour better. it's a little lighter pink. not a bad idea. that's perfect. mine is perfect now. refreshing. and i like the bit of soda water. it's a little more refreshing. and that's how i develop recipes. do i get a small credit? yes, exactly! that's nice. mm! not bad. more than not bad. good! right, let's go and sit. 0k. when you look at everything you've done and how your career as a... i don't even know how to describe you. and i hate that phrase "celebrity chef", so i'm not going to use that.
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first, i'm not a chef. i'm a home cook. you're a home cook. but... so, what would you say your influence has been? if you've been... you are incredibly influential. why? what is it? well, thank you. i don't know that i am, but you know what i love? i love when i walk down the street and somebody leans in and says, "you taught me how to cook. "thank you." and that to me isjust... itjust gives my life meaning that i never expected to have. i wrote a cookbook, thinking i would... i was trying to figure out what i was going to do next after i had speciality a food store, but ijust didn't have anything to do. ithought, "well, i'll write a cookbook while i figure it out." i had no idea that's what i was going to be doing. so it's kind of like my life. you'vejust got tojump in the pond, splash around and do something, and you never know where it's going to lead to. and that it led to a place where the wayjulia child taught me how to cook, i've been able to teach other people how to cook. it's just a great pleasure. it's extraordinary. and there's something
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about you, i think, and you've described it as particularly because all your instagram followers are younger, many of them are younger. it's a huge range, isn't it? a huge range of people. i mean, you've got older people, watching your shows from the food network from years ago. when i mention the people i'm interviewing for this show, it's always the young people who said, "oh, you're interviewing ina garten?" isn't that interesting? i don't think all of them even cook. i mean, people follow you who don't cook, but it's something about you and your persona. i mean, that sounds terribly grandiose, but it is something about your persona that people love. i think it's accessible. it's not like, first carve the pumpkin and then make the pumpkin soup for it. it's like, just make pumpkin soup and it's delicious and people will... it's about taking care of each other. i think we need that. and young people don't have, like, mum in the kitchen any more orgrandma in the kitchen any more. so they don't know how to cook. and i think it's just one of life's great pleasures is to cook for people you love,
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and i think they kind of miss that. did you think, all those years ago, when you were sitting in the white house... no! so you're in... we have to go back here, because you were in the white house, working on nuclear energy policy, working in science, obviously, and clearly something was missing. i mean, something drove you to leave. you have this job, that most people would die for, a job in energy policy, nuclear energy policy... well, i wouldn't die forajob in... they wouldn't want me in nuclear energy policy... why they wanted me, i don't know. they clearly did! and yet something was missing. i think a lot of things were happening at the same time in my 20s. i kind of wanted to grow up to bejeffrey, and he was in the state department, and worked for kissinger, wrote policy papers. i mean, he was... i'm of a generation where women didn't necessarily go to work. right. so the role models we had were the men that were around us. and so i wanted to bejeffrey. and when i was offered this job in the white house, ithought, "ok, this
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is what i want to do." but then i hit 30 and ijust thought, "this isn't me, "this is jeffrey." and i love to cook. i love to renovate old houses. i love the creative stuff. and i was doing that as soon as i got home, but i wasn't doing it in my work, and i saw an ad for a business for sale and it was a specialty food store. and i came home and i said tojeffrey, "that's "what i want to do." and i think we all need one person to just believe in us. and he said, "let's go look at it." so you threw it in and bought the barefoot contessa and you worked in that insanely hard? insanely. i mean, the white house must have felt like a breeze by comparison. insanely hard. but i loved it. iwould... i'd start at 5:00 in the morning. i'd arrive when the bread bakers were arriving and then i would work in the store all day. then i would do catering at night. i'd do like five parties at night. i'd come home at midnight, or two in the morning, and then
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i'd do it all over again the next day. and ijust loved the energy of it. i loved the creativity and i loved that it was mine. i loved that instead of $25 billion subjects like, you know, nuclear power plants, it was $25, but it was my $25. did you... i know what it's like, that whole washington scene, because i live in washington, and kind of know lots of people that work in the white house. it takes quite a lot of courage and self—awareness to say this is not for me because it's like a kind of... it sucks you in, that world, where your identity is defined by "i work in the white house and i have a badge and i can "get into the white house and i'm important..." a clearance for nuclear energy. "i have a clearance and i'm terribly important. and then to say, "actually, i'm going to go and run a shop "in the hamptons." and that takes quite a lot of self—confidence. well, let's just say my parents thought i was crazy, and they did everything possible to convince me not to do it. butjeffrey was there going, "do what you love, "if you love "it, you'll be really good at it." you got married at the age of 20, which is young.
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yeah. even back then it was... even then, it was young. but you also made a decision which is not very traditional, which was not to have children. mm. and you made that decision young, too. talk about that a little bit. you knew you wanted to get married, but you didn't want children. did you know you couldn't do what you wanted to do if you had them? i think it's much harder. yeah. i don't think that's why i made the decision. i'm actually writing a memoir now and i'm kind of looking back at my childhood. it was nothing i wanted to recreate. right. and it's so interesting to look... i'm always looking forward, to look back and realise a lot of my decisions were based on my childhood. and so i think that was really the motivating factor. and jeffrey and i were just so happy together. you make very bold choices. everybody wants to know, "where am i going to end up?" forget where you're going to end up. you don't know where you're going to end up. all you know is that if you jump in a pond and you splash around, while you're there, you're
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going to look around and go, "oh, that's really "interesting over there. "i think i'll follow it there," and see where it brings you. somebody described it to me once that if you're in a stream and you keep knocking against the riverbanks you're in the wrong stream. what you want to do is be in a stream where the stream carries you along. and so i think it's i'm always trying to find where that stream is, where it's going to carry me along. i don't know if you felt this. i felt it in my 20s that i was in a terrible rush. yeah. and that i had to do... oh, my god, you know, and actually, i remember the first time i got pregnant, bursting into tears, thinking, "no—one's ever going to take "me seriously again. "i'm never going to work again. "and that's it. "my career is over." and i wish i could have said to my younger self, "it's ok, take your time. "you've got lots of time". you talked aboutjeffrey and how he's always believed in you, and i know you once said that your mother tried to keep you out of the kitchen. i love the idea that you've made a phenomenal success out of the one thing you were not meant to do! and is there a connection there?
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probably! i'm 75 years old and i'm still saying, "you can't "tell me what to do." do you still find it hard, cooking? yes, i always find it hard. but you make it... so how do you do that? you make it look so easy. and notjust that, you make it look so easy, you make other people believe they can do it in a way that is easy. first, i've simplified a lot of things. i mean, i make it as simple as i can, but, you know, i'm so... i have such a high standard for myself that when, you know, it'sjust like when i have people coming for dinner, the corn is different every single time. you know, it's. .. it starts here. it's sweeter, depending on the time of the year, whether it's from the farmstand or the grocery store. and i have a flavour in my head that i want everything to taste like and a texture. i'm looking for something specific and i'm miserable until i get there. so i think cooking's hard because i'm hard on myself. right.
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but, i mean, i keep doing it. and jeffrey, i said to him, "why do i keep doing this? "because it's so hard." and he said, "i think if it was easy, you wouldn't be "interested, you'd be bored." you'd be restless. so that really kind of, you know... i mean, people think i'm just like throwing things together in the 15 minutes before people are arriving and jeffrey is like chatting away. i'm like, "don't talk to me!" and you still have that, that still slightjumping off a cliff feeling. i have something to show you, ina. we have to move, though. 0k. is that 0k, cameras? are you happy? 0k. wait. some photographs. i don't know... i like the box of coke. this is... this is me in a tent... i know! ..in france. i want the whole story, because every time i've read about this story, it's... i mean, how heaven, a teenage
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camping trip with the man you love, no money... 0n $5 a day. $5 a day. that's all we had. and we bought a tent. we bought a sleeping bag. we rented a car. it was a renault. and the stick shift was on the dashboard and it was red and it rained every single... is that it? that's it. that's it in the background. it rained every single night forfour months that we were on this camping trip. so we would take out the backseat of the car and we'd sleep in the car and i would cook in the car. were you happy? oh, my god! i was just so happy. and at the end of the four months, we actually wanted to keep going. and i thought, "oh, this is a good sign for a marriage "that after four months in a tent that was like tall, we're still having fun together." this just looks like happiness to me. this one, i know you know this one, but i love it. this is the beginning. that was the beginning. that was the first store that i bought. it was 400 square feet. and because i knew nothing, the deal i made with the woman
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who sold me the store, who was a wonderful teacher, is that she would stay with me for a month and teach me how to cook and slice smoked salmon and tell whether the brie was ripe. and i decided i was going to be very creative. and i did all of this new signage, which at the time was very �*60s. this was not how you bought it. no, it was very �*60s to have that that font and to have the name go straight up. tell me about the name, the barefoot contessa, because originally you didn't like it. the woman who sold me the store was italian, and when she was a little girl, they used to call her the barefoot contessa, which is about... you know, it came from a movie. it's kind of a dark movie, but it has an idea of being elegant and earthy. and when i bought the store, i thought, i don't want to call it the barefoot contessa. it doesn't say food. it doesn't say where it is, it doesn't say who it is. but i didn't know anything about the business, so i thought, i'll wait for a year and then i'll change the name. and then it didn't matter because people would call me
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the contessa and the store... i think my style really is about being elegant and earthy. ok. we have to talk aboutjeffrey. this was jeffrey in the military. he was he was aide to the general in charge of the green berets. he was a paratrooper. i mean, everybody seesjeffrey as this incredibly gentle, sweet guy, which he is, but he's also incredibly smart and really good, a wonderful guy. this is after you were first married and jeffrey was in the military and you were apart for a year. well, he was in the military for four years. one of them, he was in thailand. right. and so, yeah, i was finishing college. and he was... he was in thailand and they said dependents couldn't go to thailand where he was. and i kind of said, "ok." and then at some point after i graduated from college, i thought, well, they can't tell me i can't go to bangkok. so i got myself a flight just by myself. i don't know... you're a rule breaker. i'm definitely a rule breaker.
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and i got myself a flight to bangkok and he came to bangkok and picked me up and we went to... amazingly, there was a dartmouth club... he went to dartmouth, a dartmouth club dinner that night, and we met somebody who said, "just come live with us." so i went and lived with him and i would go back and forth between where jeffrey was in the middle of thailand. and i spent, i think, three or four months there. this is also you and jeffrey and i chose this one because this is your time at... this is how you... this is what you got away from. yeah, that's what i got away from. and, you know, when i worked at the white house, all i wanted to do is have a job where nobody told me what to do, and i could wear sneakers to work. you know, when you get dressed up every day and have to wear stockings and heels... we really did. ..and silk blouses and... oh, my god, got really dressed up. yeah. and ijust wanted to do something where i didn't have to get dressed up any more. yeah. idid it! we were talking earlier about what people love about you.
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i think your marriage to jeffrey and your love story with jeffrey. .. oh, thank you. don't you think? i think there's something so... oh, i got very lucky. i really did. i think he's incredibly generous. he has this huge heart. he's smart, he's funny, and he really believes in me, which is... and i believe in him. what more could you want? exactly. and he's so much fun. and you have fun together. we just have fun together. and i do think, you know, for generations of young people who are looking, i think they look at you two, and they... that's what we all want. a friend of mine said that any good marriages, each person feels like they get the better deal than the other one. and i think we do feel that way. that's so nice. we're off to the market. how's that? you ready? yeah. let's go. isn't this great?
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and they grow all their own... do you come at this time of year and just want to buy everything? yeah. and i think we are, aren't we? these are the best, they have the best melons, but their corn is just extraordinary. the melons look like what i would see in france. yeah. how do you choose a melon? it's very simple. what you don't want to do is press it because you'll... you'll give it... it'll have brown spots. 0k. so what you want to do is just smell it. if it smells like a melon, it's ripe. so that one smells pretty ripe? that one's perfect. perfect. yeah. so would you like some corn? i would love some. let's see. here. hold the bag one sec. everybody always pulls that back, the top. you shouldn't do that. yeah. cut the worms off. how's that? they're the best. the doughnut peaches. have you ever had them? 0h, we'll have to get some. i'll have to try one or two. we'll definitely have to get some.
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will you hold this? yes. see these, too. you canjust... theyjust smell like peaches. yeah. so when you buy produce and it's got a little brown spot on it? yeah. it's because somebody pressed it. that's because somebody�*s pressed it. yeah. so never press it. never press. just smell. just smell it. see, that one, i'm not smelling as much. that's right. yeah. i'm not either. this time of year, isn't it, for produce? fabulous. 0k. are we ready? 0k. perfect. look at these tomatoes. smell so good. beautiful. the ones i love are these ones. the ones that are slightly... me, too. yeah. the flavour... aren't they gorgeous? fab! and look at all of that salad. 0h! gorgeous. i don't know how we're going to check out because i have no money at all. does anybody have money? thank you! this is wonderful. people running in... i like that. that's very nice. thank you so much.
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i'm assuming with the corn... this is all for you. oh, thank you. it's a very tiny going home gift. and peaches. do you have any advice on the corn? what would you do? i would just put it in a pot of boiling water for like seven minutes. boiling salted water for seven minutes. a bit of butter or not even butter? 0h, definitely butter. butter makes everything better, right? butter makes all the difference. will you come back and spend another day with me, please? i would love to. thank you, ina. thank you so much. thank you. i've got to give you back your hat. just wonderful. that was really just the nicest day. thank you. thank you for being so kind and gentle. 0h, don't be silly. thank you for coming. and for all of the tips. i think we shared lots of tips. thank you. thank you so much. bye. so good to see you.
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welcome to the catch up. storm chaos, teenagers wanted and j39° chaos, teenagers wanted and jago gets his new home. we start off with storm garritt as it has been causing chaos
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across many parts of the uk. this alternator happen in greater manchester. you can just see the destruction caused under the rooves of these houses. it crashed into maisie's house just a few metres from where she was sleeping. metres from where she was sleeping-— sleeping. the trees in the bathroom. _ sleeping. the trees in the bathroom. held _ sleeping. the trees in the bathroom. held up- sleeping. the trees in the bathroom. held up by- sleeping. the trees in the| bathroom. held up by one sleeping. the trees in the - bathroom. held up by one branch and it started to snap currently, i have been told so if it snaps, it will go through the whole house.— if it snaps, it will go through the whole house. some good news, the whole house. some good news. how — the whole house. some good news, how wholesome - the whole house. some good news, how wholesome is - the whole house. some good i news, how wholesome is this? teenagers in newcastle have been volunteering over christmas at care homes and helping those with learning difficulties in the northeast. i am finding similarities between me and the people who are there and it sort of race my awareness on different disabilities and how to interact with people better.
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and time now for ten seconds of diogo the best settling in his new home. with the help of honey, peanut butter and other bare mates. he has come from sweden after being saved from being put down in november. how adorable. you are all caught up, see you later. hello there. the last few days have been unsettled and stormy with storm garritt bringing damaging gusts of winds. heavy rain and snow to high ground in scotland. more unsettled weather to come as we approach the weekend. if you are off to see family, it is worth bearing in mind there will be further rain and snow to the north and damaging gusts of wind as well. storm garritt
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off to scandinavia but we are still under the influence of high pressure. sunny spells and scattered showers. some show was in scotland could have... a westerly wind feeding model showers across wales and central england. gust of wind 35-45 central england. gust of wind 35—45 mph widely across the country. not as strong as they have been but nevertheless reasonable. as we move into the start of the weekend, the next area of low pressure bringing further wet weather and damaging gusts of winds. chaos on exposed coasts. and cold air set in place across the far north of england and scotland, we could see even at lower levels a spell of snow for a time. whether you have snow or rain, pretty miserable travel conditions. keep abreast of the
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weather forecast and tune into your bbc local radio station for traffic and travel update. sunday, the main front sweeping east but the low still centred in the circulating around a rash of showers, particularly around channel coasts where here it will stay blustery on new year's eve. hopefully an improving picture for scotland. it should be quieter. lighter winds but pretty strong gusts on the exposed south coast. 0n on the exposed south coast. on new year's eve, we're looking at around 5—6 in the north and may 8—10 in the south. temperatures started to come down. as we head out of new year's eve and new year's day, no significant change to the weather story. still under the influence of blood pressure. a case of sunny spells and scattered showers but the showers will be few and far
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between. keep an eye on what is happening on the channel coasts. single figures for all on new year's day. 5—9 . the slightly cooler theme translating further head for the first week of january. the jetstream set into the south of the uk and so that means we will be on the cooler side of the jade. underthe will be on the cooler side of the jade. under the influence of low pressure so nothing particularly settled but you notice we see the yellow taint squeezing back to the near continent and the blue takes over as the wind direction swings to north—easterly and that means temperatures will be either on orjust below the average for the time of year but we still likely to see some show is from time to time. if we get clearer spells overnight, we can have some issues with frost and ice as well. that said. whatever you are doing, have a new year.
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and it was red and it rained every single...
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live from washington, this is bbc news. maine's secretary of state blocks donald trump from the ballot there in the 2024 election, as a court is expected to determine whether the decsion stands. the decision stands. the un says 150,000 palestinians are fleeing central gaza, as israeli forces expand their ground offensive there. the head of sudan's paramilitary opposition makes a regional tour, as an end to the country's civil war remains elusive.
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i'm sumi somaskanda. thanks forjoining us. we start with maine's top election official barring former president donald trump from the state's republican primary ballot next year. shenna bellows, a democrat, wrote that he is not qualified to hold office, under the part of the constitution that bans individuals, who engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the us, from running. this decision will not take effect until a court has heard an appeal. a trump campaign spokesman responded to the decision, promising to challenge it in state court. earlier this week, the state of michigan decided to keep trump on the primary ballot next year. it follows last week's decision in colorado, where the state supreme court disqualified the former president as well. the decision is ultimately expected to be made by the us supreme court. earlier, i spoke with secretary of state bellows about her decision. secretary bellows, very good to have you on bbc news. good evening to you. i just want to start with your decision to disqualify the former president from the primary ballot

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