happens and it will apply think this happens and it will apply not only— think this happens and it will apply not only here but in terms of what — not only here but in terms of what... �* a, not only here but in terms of what... �* ., ,, . not only here but in terms of what... ., ., . not only here but in terms of what... ., w “ what... john, you are watching bbc news. what... john, you are watching bbc news- for— what... john, you are watching bbc news. for international— what... john, you are watching bbc news. for international viewers - what... john, you are watching bbci news. for international viewers are joining us. the scale of this is assured me, have you ever seen anything quite as dramatic as this? it is dramatic, simply because it is a large _ it is dramatic, simply because it is a large airline, there was much less fuel on_ a large airline, there was much less fuel on board than the capacity for the aircraft, perhaps it was doing a short_ the aircraft, perhaps it was doing a short flight — the aircraft, perhaps it was doing a short flight on the question i posed. — short flight on the question i posed. it _ short flight on the question i posed, it pays not to speculate but i think_ posed, it pays not to speculate but i think it _ posed, it pays not to speculate but i think it is — posed, it pays not to speculate but i think it is important to state it is composite material that will not burn in _ is composite material that will not burn in the — is composite material that will not burn in the way that plastic does. certainly. — burn in the way that plastic does. certainly. i— burn in the way that plastic does. certainly, i have not seen any instant — certainly, i have not seen any instant that i can think of of a new

generation— instant that i can think of of a new generation airline burning like this, — generation airline burning like this, but— generation airline burning like this, but i_ generation airline burning like this, but i recall there was a fire on the _ this, but i recall there was a fire on the ground of a boeing 787, that was atter— on the ground of a boeing 787, that was after a — on the ground of a boeing 787, that was after a collision, an electrical fautt _ was after a collision, an electrical fault before the aircraft was empty and fault before the aircraft was empty ahd that— fault before the aircraft was empty and that burnt a hole, including part of— and that burnt a hole, including part of the _ and that burnt a hole, including part of the roof of the aircraft and that one — part of the roof of the aircraft and that one i— part of the roof of the aircraft and that one i think was put out much more _ that one i think was put out much more quickly. but it was on the ground~ — more quickly. but it was on the ground. and the aircraft, there was not fuet— ground. and the aircraft, there was not fuel involved, it was higher up in the _ not fuel involved, it was higher up in the aircraft. sol not fuel involved, it was higher up in the aircraft. so i think this one, _ in the aircraft. so i think this one. it — in the aircraft. so i think this one. it was _ in the aircraft. so i think this one, it wasjust in the aircraft. so i think this one, it was just the ferocity, the suddenness of the collision and the combination of fuel and materials which _ combination of fuel and materials which will— combination of fuel and materials which will make this much more challenging and harder to deal with in terms _ challenging and harder to deal with in terms of— challenging and harder to deal with in terms of the nucleus under said dramatic— in terms of the nucleus under said dramatic set of parameters.

tell us about the investigation and how that would work. the pilot of the passenger airliner seems to have escaped with the passengers, so that information will be critical for finding out what happens and the impressions before this happened? it will give additional information because — will give additional information because in many tragic accidents where _ because in many tragic accidents where there is loss of life including the crew, investigators have _ including the crew, investigators have to — including the crew, investigators have to rely on tapes, whether they are audio— have to rely on tapes, whether they are audio tapes of flight crew on the aeroplane and air traffic control— the aeroplane and air traffic control and look at data in terms of how the _ control and look at data in terms of how the aircraft was performing, any messages _ how the aircraft was performing, any messages transmitted, any evidence of anything untoward. so all of that, _ of anything untoward. so all of that, dispassionate, if you like, will be — that, dispassionate, if you like, will be used to but the fact the

crew— will be used to but the fact the crew have _ will be used to but the fact the crew have survived, it will be really. — crew have survived, it will be really, really helpful to be able to explain _ really, really helpful to be able to explain themselves what they saw as they were _ explain themselves what they saw as they were making that approach to tokyos— they were making that approach to tokyo's haneda airport in the hours of darkness — tokyo's haneda airport in the hours of darkness. it seems they were unaware — of darkness. it seems they were unaware of— of darkness. it seems they were unaware of that aircraft until it was much _ unaware of that aircraft until it was much too late. the investigators will want _ was much too late. the investigators will want to — was much too late. the investigators will want to speak to them in the course _ will want to speak to them in the course of— will want to speak to them in the course of time. tell will want to speak to them in the course of time.— will want to speak to them in the course of time. tell us a bit about the airport. _ course of time. tell us a bit about the airport. it _ course of time. tell us a bit about the airport, it is _ course of time. tell us a bit about the airport, it is a _ course of time. tell us a bit about the airport, it is a major - course of time. tell us a bit about the airport, it is a major hub, - the airport, it is a major hub, international hub? it the airport, it is a ma'or hub, international humh international hub? it is, it is to o's international hub? it is, it is tokyo's largest _ international hub? it is, it is tokyo's largest airport. - international hub? it is, it is tokyo's largest airport. the | international hub? it is, it is- tokyo's largest airport. the other airport— tokyo's largest airport. the other airport was— tokyo's largest airport. the other airport was the one that focused on more _ airport was the one that focused on more international flights until a few years — more international flights until a few years back. haneda, which is closer— few years back. haneda, which is closer to — few years back. haneda, which is closer to the city centre and tokyo bay has _ closer to the city centre and tokyo bay has become much more prominent than the _ bay has become much more prominent than the other airport now for international flights and it is the

centre _ international flights and it is the centre for— international flights and it is the centre for domestic flights because it is by— centre for domestic flights because it is by the — centre for domestic flights because it is by the city centre, hence this flight _ it is by the city centre, hence this flight was — it is by the city centre, hence this flight was coming in as a domestic flight _ flight was coming in as a domestic fliuht. ., ., , ., flight. from what we understand, the coast uard flight. from what we understand, the coastguard said _ flight. from what we understand, the coastguard said the _ flight. from what we understand, the coastguard said the aircraft _ flight. from what we understand, the coastguard said the aircraft crashed l coastguard said the aircraft crashed with the japan airlines aeroplane and that had six passengers on board, the coastguard plane, one of them evacuated but the situation for them evacuated but the situation for the other five is unclear and that aircraft was heading to niigata airport because there was a major earthquake injapan yesterday airport because there was a major earthquake in japan yesterday and that has caused some damage and there is a mission to help people who have been displaced from their homes as a result of the damage, so that coastguard aeroplane was on its way to distribute aid to that area,

the earthquake site of ishikawa. the passenger plane, japan airlines, you can see a big fireball as it comes in to land. the plane was on fire as it came into land. since then the passengers on board, 379 passengers on board had been evacuated safely. there were some shots from inside the plane. but showing that fire for passengers as they came into land, they could see the aeroplane was already on fire. the cruise at the airport managed to get all the passengers off the plane but let's have a look at the landing, there is the fireball as it comes in. it seems the coastguard aircraft was not able to, as we understand it not able to evacuate all the crew, but

five of them escaped. that fire is still blazing furiously at the airport and around 70 fire engines have been deployed, according to the local television agency and they still haven't managed to get that blaze under control. they have closed the airport, all the runways are close and flights have been diverted to other airports in the region so there is quite a lot of impact on international travel as our guests were telling us, what a big help this airport is for international travel. john, remind us what your priorities would be if you looking into the causes and the situations that bring about an event like this? this situations that bring about an event like this? ~ ,

situations that bring about an event like this? . , ., situations that bring about an event like this? �* , ., " , like this? as i mentioned, the key participants _ like this? as i mentioned, the key participants to _ like this? as i mentioned, the key participants to this, _ like this? as i mentioned, the key participants to this, the _ like this? as i mentioned, the key participants to this, the national l participants to this, the national authorities, the national safety agency— authorities, the national safety agency ofjapan will be looking to lead the — agency ofjapan will be looking to lead the investigation, getting representatives from japan airlines, representatives from japan airlines, representatives from japan airlines, representatives from airbus and indeed — representatives from airbus and indeed other participants, they have to be got— indeed other participants, they have to be got together, the right people as quickly— to be got together, the right people as quickly as possible, so people will be _ as quickly as possible, so people will be making their way there as quickly— will be making their way there as quickly as— will be making their way there as quickly as possible. and it is complex, _ quickly as possible. and it is complex, i talked about the data which _ complex, i talked about the data which would be listened to from recordings from the aircraft itself. the fact _ recordings from the aircraft itself. the fact we have the flight crew at least _ the fact we have the flight crew at least from — the fact we have the flight crew at least from japan airlines, they would — least from japan airlines, they would want to speak to them, possibly— would want to speak to them, possibly the captain of the coastguard aircraft. the wreckage

itsetf _ coastguard aircraft. the wreckage itself will — coastguard aircraft. the wreckage itself will have to be examined. and video— itself will have to be examined. and video footage, there is a lot of video— video footage, there is a lot of video footage, there is a lot of video footage available. i couldn't quite _ video footage available. i couldn't quite see — video footage available. i couldn't quite see what you have been showing exactly. _ quite see what you have been showing exactly, where the moment of impact is and _ exactly, where the moment of impact is and where the aircraft was, the aircraft _ is and where the aircraft was, the aircraft on — is and where the aircraft was, the aircraft on the ground, the coastguard plane. but all of those elements — coastguard plane. but all of those elements will be important and the evidence _ elements will be important and the evidence will be sifted over to establish what happened and what the conclusions are, what can be drawn and the _ conclusions are, what can be drawn and the recommendations. seeing that fireball again, the main shop, what looks like a lot of phone, presumably that is part of what they use in these situations to try and put out fires at airports? yes, just reflecting, i am not an

expert— yes, just reflecting, i am not an expert in— yes, just reflecting, i am not an expert in handling aircraft fires, no specific— expert in handling aircraft fires, no specific knowledge on that but it occurred _ no specific knowledge on that but it occurred to — no specific knowledge on that but it occurred to me the complexity that the fire _ occurred to me the complexity that the fire crew, they are dealing with different— the fire crew, they are dealing with different types of burning, there is a fuel— different types of burning, there is a fuel fire — different types of burning, there is a fuel fire and they have techniques which _ a fuel fire and they have techniques which they— a fuel fire and they have techniques which they would be applying the foam _ which they would be applying the foam to— which they would be applying the foam to basically submerge any leaking — foam to basically submerge any leaking fuel and therefore dampen out the _ leaking fuel and therefore dampen out the ability of the fire. but the different— out the ability of the fire. but the different burning characteristics of these _ different burning characteristics of these carbon composite plastic —type material _ these carbon composite plastic —type material is, _ these carbon composite plastic —type material is, they are different to those _ material is, they are different to those of — material is, they are different to those of fuel and different parts of the aircraft which are made using these _ the aircraft which are made using these materials, that has probably given— these materials, that has probably given them a much more complex and challenging _ given them a much more complex and challenging situation to manage and how they— challenging situation to manage and how they get the fire under control and also _ how they get the fire under control and also protect the lives, not only

the people — and also protect the lives, not only the people involved in the accident when _ the people involved in the accident when they— the people involved in the accident when they are getting off the aircraft — when they are getting off the aircraft but protect the lives of the firefighters themselves. the intensity of _ the firefighters themselves. tue: intensity of this is the firefighters themselves. ti2 intensity of this is quite extraordinary, isn't it? as you said, they would have to have a certain amount of distance between them and the fight itself? fin a certain amount of distance between them and the fight itself?— them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire, the them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire. the fuel _ them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire, the fuel could _ them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire, the fuel could cause _ them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire, the fuel could cause a - them and the fight itself? on a fuel fire, the fuel could cause a leaking | fire, the fuel could cause a leaking out onto— fire, the fuel could cause a leaking out onto the tarmac and that has to be dealt _ out onto the tarmac and that has to be dealt with. here, i don't know the detail— be dealt with. here, i don't know the detail of how carbon composite burned _ the detail of how carbon composite burned but i would think they would melt and _ burned but i would think they would melt and drip, in some ways it spreads— melt and drip, in some ways it spreads out but it is a pretty intense _ spreads out but it is a pretty intense burning. that is the biggest difference _ intense burning. that is the biggest difference i see in the videos of

this accident than anything i have seen _ this accident than anything i have seen before. this accident than anything i have seen before-— this accident than anything i have seen before. , ., ,, w ., ., ~ seen before. john strickland, thank ou for the seen before. john strickland, thank you for the time _ seen before. john strickland, thank you for the time being. _ seen before. john strickland, thank you for the time being. i _ seen before. john strickland, thank you for the time being. i would - seen before. john strickland, thank you for the time being. i would likej you for the time being. i would like to bring in professor graham braithwaite from cranfield university. can you give us your initial thoughts?— university. can you give us your initial thoughts? initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic accident, initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic accident. a _ initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic accident, a very _ initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic accident, a very unusual - initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic accident, a very unusual event. | initialthoughts? clearly, a tragic| accident, a very unusual event. it looks— accident, a very unusual event. it looks on— accident, a very unusual event. it looks on face _ accident, a very unusual event. it looks on face value _ accident, a very unusual event. it looks on face value like _ accident, a very unusual event. it looks on face value like there - accident, a very unusual event. iti looks on face value like there may have _ looks on face value like there may have treen— looks on face value like there may have been a — looks on face value like there may have been a ground _ looks on face value like there may have been a ground collision. - looks on face value like there may have been a ground collision. the| have been a ground collision. the thing _ have been a ground collision. the thing to— have been a ground collision. the thing to focus _ have been a ground collision. the thing to focus on, _ have been a ground collision. the thing to focus on, although - have been a ground collision. the thing to focus on, although it- thing to focus on, although it sounds — thing to focus on, although it sounds like _ thing to focus on, although it sounds like there _ thing to focus on, although it sounds like there has - thing to focus on, although it sounds like there has been. thing to focus on, although it sounds like there has been a| thing to focus on, although it- sounds like there has been a tragic loss of— sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life — sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life on _ sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life on one _ sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life on one aircraft, - sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life on one aircraft, on - sounds like there has been a tragic loss of life on one aircraft, on the. loss of life on one aircraft, on the japan _ loss of life on one aircraft, on the japan airlines _ loss of life on one aircraft, on the japan airlines aircraft _ loss of life on one aircraft, on the japan airlines aircraft it _ loss of life on one aircraft, on the japan airlines aircraft it sounds i japan airlines aircraft it sounds like the — japan airlines aircraft it sounds like the evacuation _ japan airlines aircraft it sounds like the evacuation has - japan airlines aircraft it sounds like the evacuation has been i like the evacuation has been successful— like the evacuation has been successful and _ like the evacuation has been successful and it _ like the evacuation has been successful and it is - like the evacuation has been successful and it is a - like the evacuation has been i successful and it is a reminder like the evacuation has been - successful and it is a reminder of how much— successful and it is a reminder of how much work— successful and it is a reminder of how much work has _ successful and it is a reminder of how much work has gone - successful and it is a reminder of how much work has gone into . successful and it is a reminder of- how much work has gone into training cabin— how much work has gone into training cabin crew, _ how much work has gone into training cabin crew, designing _ how much work has gone into training cabin crew, designing the _ how much work has gone into training cabin crew, designing the aircraft - cabin crew, designing the aircraft force _ cabin crew, designing the aircraft force with — cabin crew, designing the aircraft force with evacuation _ cabin crew, designing the aircraft force with evacuation and - cabin crew, designing the aircraft force with evacuation and into - cabin crew, designing the aircraft| force with evacuation and into the rescue _ force with evacuation and into the rescue and — force with evacuation and into the rescue and firefighting _ force with evacuation and into the rescue and firefighting cover, - force with evacuation and into the i rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed — rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed to — rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed to get _ rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed to get to _ rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed to get to the _ rescue and firefighting cover, which is designed to get to the aircraft. is designed to get to the aircraft within— is designed to get to the aircraft within two— is designed to get to the aircraft within two minutes _ is designed to get to the aircraft within two minutes and - is designed to get to the aircraft within two minutes and they- is designed to get to the aircraft - within two minutes and they reacted incredibly— within two minutes and they reacted incredibly swiftly, _ within two minutes and they reacted incredibly swiftly, so _ within two minutes and they reacted incredibly swiftly, so there - within two minutes and they reacted incredibly swiftly, so there is - within two minutes and they reacted incredibly swiftly, so there is some i incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives _ incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives in — incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives in what _ incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives in what otherwise - incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives in what otherwise is - incredibly swiftly, so there is some positives in what otherwise is a - positives in what otherwise is a very— positives in what otherwise is a very tragic— positives in what otherwise is a very tragic situation. _ positives in what otherwise is a very tragic situation. is - positives in what otherwise is a very tragic situation.— positives in what otherwise is a very tragic situation. as you say, at least the _ very tragic situation. as you say, at least the passengers - very tragic situation. as you say,

at least the passengers on - very tragic situation. as you say, at least the passengers on that l at least the passengers on that aeroplane were evacuated and it sounds at the moment as though the coastguard aircraft which was involved in this, five of the crew are unaccounted for, one of them has managed to get out, according to the coastguard. tell us about the scale of the fire, has it surprise you, the intensity of it and the difficulty they seem to be having in putting it out? i difficulty they seem to be having in putting it out?— putting it out? i think the focus will always _ putting it out? i think the focus will always be _ putting it out? i think the focus will always be an _ putting it out? i think the focus will always be an preservation l putting it out? i think the focus. will always be an preservation of life. will always be an preservation of life i_ will always be an preservation of life i am — will always be an preservation of life lam not— will always be an preservation of life. i am not completely- will always be an preservation of . life. i am not completely surprised that if— life. i am not completely surprised that if two — life. i am not completely surprised that if two aircraft _ life. i am not completely surprised that if two aircraft have _ life. i am not completely surprised that if two aircraft have collided i that if two aircraft have collided and the — that if two aircraft have collided and the landing _ that if two aircraft have collided and the landing aircraft- that if two aircraft have collided and the landing aircraft would l that if two aircraft have collided . and the landing aircraft would have been travelling _ and the landing aircraft would have been travelling quite _ and the landing aircraft would have been travelling quite some - and the landing aircraft would have been travelling quite some speed i and the landing aircraft would have i been travelling quite some speed as it touched _ been travelling quite some speed as it touched down, _ been travelling quite some speed as it touched down, i— been travelling quite some speed as it touched down, i am _ been travelling quite some speed as it touched down, i am not _ been travelling quite some speed as it touched down, i am not so - it touched down, i am not so surprised _ it touched down, i am not so surprised there _ it touched down, i am not so surprised there was - it touched down, i am not so surprised there was such - it touched down, i am not so surprised there was such a l it touched down, i am not so . surprised there was such a large fire~ _ surprised there was such a large fire~ but — surprised there was such a large fire. but actually, _ surprised there was such a large fire. but actually, it— surprised there was such a large fire. but actually, it looks - surprised there was such a large fire. but actually, it looks like . fire. but actually, it looks like the structure _ fire. but actually, it looks like the structure has _ fire. but actually, it looks like the structure has done - fire. but actually, it looks like the structure has done what l fire. but actually, it looks like the structure has done what it fire. but actually, it looks like . the structure has done what it is designed — the structure has done what it is designed to— the structure has done what it is designed to do. _ the structure has done what it is designed to do, protect - the structure has done what it is designed to do, protect the - designed to do, protect the occupants— designed to do, protect the occupants and _ designed to do, protect the occupants and allow- designed to do, protect the occupants and allow a - designed to do, protect the occupants and allow a fast. occupants and allow a fast evacuation. _ occupants and allow a fast evacuation. the _ occupants and allow a fast evacuation. the fire - occupants and allow a fast i evacuation. the fire service occupants and allow a fast - evacuation. the fire service focus would _ evacuation. the fire service focus would absolutely _ evacuation. the fire service focus would absolutely have _ evacuation. the fire service focus would absolutely have been - evacuation. the fire service focus would absolutely have been on i would absolutely have been on protecting _ would absolutely have been on protecting the _ would absolutely have been on protecting the exits _ would absolutely have been on protecting the exits and - would absolutely have been onl protecting the exits and making would absolutely have been on - protecting the exits and making sure there was— protecting the exits and making sure there was a — protecting the exits and making sure there was a clear— protecting the exits and making sure there was a clear path _ protecting the exits and making sure there was a clear path for _ protecting the exits and making sure there was a clear path for people - protecting the exits and making sure there was a clear path for people toi there was a clear path for people to evacuate _ there was a clear path for people to evacuate from — there was a clear path for people to evacuate from the _ there was a clear path for people to evacuate from the aircraft. - there was a clear path for people to evacuate from the aircraft. i- there was a clear path for people to evacuate from the aircraft. i am - there was a clear path for people to evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised — evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised the _ evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised the fire _ evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised the fire then _ evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised the fire then took- evacuate from the aircraft. i am not so surprised the fire then took hold | so surprised the fire then took hold and i'm _ so surprised the fire then took hold and i'm just — so surprised the fire then took hold

and i'm just relieved _ so surprised the fire then took hold and i'm just relieved evacuation - and i'm just relieved evacuation seems — and i'm just relieved evacuation seems to— and i'm just relieved evacuation seems to have _ and i'm just relieved evacuation seems to have been _ and i'm just relieved evacuation seems to have been completed| seems to have been completed successfully _ seems to have been completed successfully before _ seems to have been completed successfully before it _ seems to have been completed successfully before it did. - seems to have been completed successfully before it did. i - successfully before it did. understand you specialise successfully before it did." understand you specialise in successfully before it did._ understand you specialise in human factors and we know that the aeroplane that collided with the passenger plane was on its way to help in the mission to deliver aid for those affected by the earthquake, do you think there is an element unusual happening at the airport that can contribute to an accident like this? it is airport that can contribute to an accident like this?— accident like this? it is always a possibility- _ accident like this? it is always a possibility. the _ accident like this? it is always a possibility. the first _ accident like this? it is always a possibility. the first focus - possibility. the first focus absolutely _ possibility. the first focus absolutely has _ possibility. the first focus absolutely has to - possibility. the first focus absolutely has to be - possibility. the first focus absolutely has to be on i possibility. the first focus - absolutely has to be on making possibility. the first focus _ absolutely has to be on making sure anybody _ absolutely has to be on making sure anybody who — absolutely has to be on making sure anybody who has _ absolutely has to be on making sure anybody who has been _ absolutely has to be on making sure anybody who has been affected - absolutely has to be on making sure anybody who has been affected by l anybody who has been affected by this accident — anybody who has been affected by this accident is _ anybody who has been affected by this accident is cared _ anybody who has been affected by this accident is cared for, - anybody who has been affected by this accident is cared for, and - anybody who has been affected by this accident is cared for, and that includes _ this accident is cared for, and that includes all — this accident is cared for, and that includes all the _ this accident is cared for, and that includes all the relatives - this accident is cared for, and that includes all the relatives and - includes all the relatives and co-workers _ includes all the relatives and co—workers who— includes all the relatives and co—workers who must - includes all the relatives and co—workers who must be - includes all the relatives and l co—workers who must be very includes all the relatives and - co—workers who must be very fearful about _ co—workers who must be very fearful about what _ co—workers who must be very fearful about what has — co—workers who must be very fearful about what has just _ co—workers who must be very fearful about what hasjust happened, - co—workers who must be very fearful about what hasjust happened, that. about what hasjust happened, that has to— about what hasjust happened, that has to be _ about what hasjust happened, that has to be the — about what hasjust happened, that has to be the first _ about what hasjust happened, that has to be the first focus. _ about what hasjust happened, that has to be the first focus. then - about what hasjust happened, that has to be the first focus. then an i has to be the first focus. then an investigation _ has to be the first focus. then an investigation can— has to be the first focus. then an investigation can start _ has to be the first focus. then an investigation can start to - has to be the first focus. then an investigation can start to rot - has to be the first focus. then an l investigation can start to rot where the reasons— investigation can start to rot where the reasons behind _ investigation can start to rot where the reasons behind this, _ investigation can start to rot where the reasons behind this, what - investigation can start to rot where the reasons behind this, what wasi the reasons behind this, what was difference — the reasons behind this, what was difference on _ the reasons behind this, what was difference on the _ the reasons behind this, what was difference on the circumstances i the reasons behind this, what was| difference on the circumstances on this day? _ difference on the circumstances on this day? a — difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot— difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot is— difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot is going _ difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot is going on - difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot is going on in - difference on the circumstances on this day? a lot is going on injapanj this day? a lot is going on injapan at the _ this day? a lot is going on injapan at the moment, _ this day? a lot is going on injapan at the moment, but— this day? a lot is going on injapan at the moment, but there - this day? a lot is going on injapan at the moment, but there is - this day? a lot is going on injapan - at the moment, but there is supposed to be lots— at the moment, but there is supposed to be lots of— at the moment, but there is supposed to be lots of defences _ at the moment, but there is supposed to be lots of defences in _ at the moment, but there is supposed to be lots of defences in place - to be lots of defences in place which — to be lots of defences in place which stop _ to be lots of defences in place which stop an _ to be lots of defences in place which stop an aircraft - to be lots of defences in placej which stop an aircraft entering to be lots of defences in place -

which stop an aircraft entering onto the runway — which stop an aircraft entering onto the runway when _ which stop an aircraft entering onto the runway when it _ which stop an aircraft entering onto the runway when it shouldn't. - which stop an aircraft entering onto the runway when it shouldn't. they| the runway when it shouldn't. they will have _ the runway when it shouldn't. they will have to — the runway when it shouldn't. they will have to be _ the runway when it shouldn't. they will have to be an _ the runway when it shouldn't. they will have to be an investigation - will have to be an investigation into whether _ will have to be an investigation into whether there _ will have to be an investigation into whether there was - will have to be an investigation into whether there was a - will have to be an investigation into whether there was a levell will have to be an investigation l into whether there was a level of destruction— into whether there was a level of destruction or— into whether there was a level of destruction or confusion, - into whether there was a level of destruction or confusion, but - into whether there was a level of| destruction or confusion, but that will come — destruction or confusion, but that will come secondary— destruction or confusion, but that will come secondary to _ destruction or confusion, but that will come secondary to the - destruction or confusion, but that will come secondary to the first . will come secondary to the first response — will come secondary to the first response in— will come secondary to the first response-— will come secondary to the first resonse. ., ., , g ., ., ., response. in general, as japan got a aood response. in general, as japan got a good record _ response. in general, as japan got a good record in — response. in general, as japan got a good record in dealing _ response. in general, as japan got a good record in dealing with - response. in general, as japan got a good record in dealing with safety i good record in dealing with safety and public transport in particular? japan has got a phenomenal record when _ japan has got a phenomenal record when it— japan has got a phenomenal record when it comes _ japan has got a phenomenal record when it comes to aviation safety. . when it comes to aviation safety. another— when it comes to aviation safety. another transport _ when it comes to aviation safety. another transport mode - when it comes to aviation safety. another transport mode as - when it comes to aviation safety. another transport mode as well, | another transport mode as well, railways — another transport mode as well, railways are _ another transport mode as well, railways are always _ another transport mode as well, railways are always famous - another transport mode as well, railways are always famous for l another transport mode as well, - railways are always famous for that. but japan _ railways are always famous for that. but japan airlines _ railways are always famous for that. but japan airlines in _ railways are always famous for that. but japan airlines in particular, - railways are always famous for that. but japan airlines in particular, it i but japan airlines in particular, it is an— but japan airlines in particular, it is an airline — but japan airlines in particular, it is an airline that _ but japan airlines in particular, it is an airline that unfortunately i is an airline that unfortunately suffered — is an airline that unfortunately suffered a _ is an airline that unfortunately suffered a fatal _ is an airline that unfortunately suffered a fatal accident - is an airline that unfortunately suffered a fatal accident in - is an airline that unfortunately. suffered a fatal accident in 1985 and has — suffered a fatal accident in 1985 and has had _ suffered a fatal accident in 1985 and has had a _ suffered a fatal accident in 1985 and has had a blemish- suffered a fatal accident in 1985 and has had a blemish free - suffered a fatal accident in 1985 l and has had a blemish free record since _ and has had a blemish free record since then — and has had a blemish free record since then it _ and has had a blemish free record since then. it is _ and has had a blemish free record since then. it is incredibly- since then. it is incredibly committed, _ since then. it is incredibly committed, you - since then. it is incredibly committed, you hear- since then. it is incredibly committed, you hear it i since then. it is incredibly committed, you hear it inj since then. it is incredibly- committed, you hear it in the leadership— committed, you hear it in the leadership team _ committed, you hear it in the leadership team of _ committed, you hear it in the leadership team of the - committed, you hear it in the - leadership team of the company, every— leadership team of the company, every person _ leadership team of the company, every person that _ leadership team of the company, every person that joined - leadership team of the company, every person that joined the - leadership team of the company, i every person that joined the airline .oes every person that joined the airline goes through — every person that joined the airline goes through their— every person that joined the airline goes through their safety - every person that joined the airline. goes through their safety promotion centre _ goes through their safety promotion centre within — goes through their safety promotion centre within the _ goes through their safety promotion centre within the headquarters, - goes through their safety promotion| centre within the headquarters, they learn about— centre within the headquarters, they learn about the — centre within the headquarters, they learn about the accident _ centre within the headquarters, they learn about the accident in _ centre within the headquarters, they learn about the accident in 1985, - learn about the accident in 1985, which _ learn about the accident in 1985, which was — learn about the accident in 1985, which was not _ learn about the accident in 1985, which was not in _ learn about the accident in 1985, which was not in any _ learn about the accident in 1985, which was not in any way - learn about the accident in 1985, which was not in any wayjapan i which was not in any wayjapan airlines — which was not in any wayjapan airlines fault. _ which was not in any wayjapan airlines fault. but _ which was not in any wayjapan airlines fault. but they - which was not in any wayjapan airlines fault. but they want i which was not in any wayjapan airlines fault. but they want toj airlines fault. but they want to

make — airlines fault. but they want to make sure _ airlines fault. but they want to make sure people _ airlines fault. but they want to make sure people learn- airlines fault. but they want to make sure people learn from l airlines fault. but they want to. make sure people learn from it. airlines fault. but they want to - make sure people learn from it. this is tragic— make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for— make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for an— make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for an airline _ make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for an airline which - make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for an airline which is - make sure people learn from it. this is tragic for an airline which is a - is tragic for an airline which is a world _ is tragic for an airline which is a world leader— is tragic for an airline which is a world leader when _ is tragic for an airline which is a world leader when it— is tragic for an airline which is a world leader when it comes - is tragic for an airline which is a world leader when it comes to. world leader when it comes to safety — world leader when it comes to safe . ., , ., , safety. one of the things that is aood safety. one of the things that is good about _ safety. one of the things that is good about the _ safety. one of the things that is good about the aviation - safety. one of the things that is. good about the aviation industry, they do publish the information when these accidents happen, they have a culture which is more open to finding out what happened, not planing people but finding a solution to prevent accidents in future, so presumably all round the world airports and air traffic controllers and people who manage safety in airlines will be looking at this and re—examining their own procedures? at this and re-examining their own procedures?— procedures? that is exactly right. it is a great _ procedures? that is exactly right. it is a great strength _ procedures? that is exactly right. it is a great strength of— procedures? that is exactly right. it is a great strength of aviation. . it is a great strength of aviation. they— it is a great strength of aviation. they will— it is a great strength of aviation. they will be _ it is a great strength of aviation. they will be investigating - it is a great strength of aviation. they will be investigating from l they will be investigating from japan, — they will be investigating from japan. they— they will be investigating from japan. they will— they will be investigating from japan, they will be _ they will be investigating from japan, they will be joined - they will be investigating from japan, they will be joined by. japan, they will be joined by investigators— japan, they will be joined by investigators from _ japan, they will be joined by investigators from airbus, l japan, they will be joined byi investigators from airbus, as japan, they will be joined by- investigators from airbus, as the manufacture. _ investigators from airbus, as the manufacture, from _ investigators from airbus, as the manufacture, from japan - investigators from airbus, as thej manufacture, from japan airlines investigators from airbus, as the i manufacture, from japan airlines as the operator— manufacture, from japan airlines as the operator and _ manufacture, from japan airlines as the operator and depending - manufacture, from japan airlines as the operator and depending on- manufacture, from japan airlines as i the operator and depending on other things. _ the operator and depending on other things. they— the operator and depending on other things. they will— the operator and depending on other things, they will be _ the operator and depending on other things, they will be other— the operator and depending on other things, they will be other people - things, they will be other people joining _ things, they will be other people joining the — things, they will be other people joining the investigation - things, they will be other people joining the investigation as - things, they will be other people joining the investigation as well. | joining the investigation as well. as soon —

joining the investigation as well. as soon as— joining the investigation as well. as soon as they _ joining the investigation as well. as soon as they know— joining the investigation as well. | as soon as they know something joining the investigation as well. - as soon as they know something that could be _ as soon as they know something that could be a _ as soon as they know something that could be a safety— as soon as they know something that could be a safety measure, _ as soon as they know something that could be a safety measure, they - as soon as they know something that could be a safety measure, they willl could be a safety measure, they will publish _ could be a safety measure, they will publish that — could be a safety measure, they will publish that information _ publish that information straightaway. _ publish that information straightaway. and - publish that information straightaway. and therej publish that information - straightaway. and there will be an update _ straightaway. and there will be an update every _ straightaway. and there will be an update every year _ straightaway. and there will be an update every year as _ straightaway. and there will be an update every year as the - update every year as the investigation _ update every year as the investigation goes - update every year as the investigation goes on . update every year as the | investigation goes on but update every year as the . investigation goes on but it update every year as the - investigation goes on but it will be very public — investigation goes on but it will be very public. airbus _ investigation goes on but it will be very public. airbus and _ investigation goes on but it will be very public. airbus and boeing - investigation goes on but it will be i very public. airbus and boeing don't compete _ very public. airbus and boeing don't compete on — very public. airbus and boeing don't compete on safety, _ very public. airbus and boeing don't compete on safety, japan _ very public. airbus and boeing don't compete on safety, japan airlines . compete on safety, japan airlines don't _ compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete _ compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete on _ compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete on safety, - compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete on safety, it - compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete on safety, it is- compete on safety, japan airlines don't compete on safety, it is a l don't compete on safety, it is a collaborative _ don't compete on safety, it is a collaborative industry- don't compete on safety, it is a collaborative industry in - don't compete on safety, it is a collaborative industry in termsi don't compete on safety, it is a i collaborative industry in terms of that _ collaborative industry in terms of that that — collaborative industry in terms of that that is— collaborative industry in terms of that. that is the _ collaborative industry in terms of that. that is the reason- collaborative industry in terms of that. that is the reason why - collaborative industry in terms of that. that is the reason why it. collaborative industry in terms ofl that. that is the reason why it has achieved — that. that is the reason why it has achieved the — that. that is the reason why it has achieved the level— that. that is the reason why it has achieved the level of— that. that is the reason why it has achieved the level of safety- achieved the level of safety performance _ achieved the level of safety performance it _ achieved the level of safety performance it has. - achieved the level of safety performance it has. professor, we were showing _ performance it has. professor, we were showing the _ performance it has. professor, we were showing the moment, - performance it has. professor, we were showing the moment, i - performance it has. professor, we| were showing the moment, i don't know whether you saw it earlier when the plane comes in and the fireball, when you saw thatjust the plane comes in and the fireball, when you saw that just what the plane comes in and the fireball, when you saw thatjust what did you think? when you saw that 'ust what did you think? , .,. ., .,, ., think? first reaction was for the passengers _ think? first reaction was for the passengers on _ think? first reaction was for the passengers on the _ think? first reaction was for the passengers on the crew - think? first reaction was for the passengers on the crew and - think? first reaction was for the. passengers on the crew and what think? first reaction was for the - passengers on the crew and what must have been— passengers on the crew and what must have been an _ passengers on the crew and what must have been an incredibly— passengers on the crew and what must have been an incredibly terrifying - have been an incredibly terrifying experience — have been an incredibly terrifying experience. most _ have been an incredibly terrifying experience. most of— have been an incredibly terrifying experience. most of us _ have been an incredibly terrifying experience. most of us as - have been an incredibly terrifying - experience. most of us as passengers -et experience. most of us as passengers get to— experience. most of us as passengers get to experience _ experience. most of us as passengers get to experience a _ experience. most of us as passengers get to experience a very— experience. most of us as passengers get to experience a very safe - experience. most of us as passengers get to experience a very safe and - get to experience a very safe and tranquil— get to experience a very safe and tranquil experience _ get to experience a very safe and tranquil experience on— get to experience a very safe and tranquil experience on an - get to experience a very safe and - tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin— tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin crew— tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin crew are _ tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin crew are there _ tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin crew are there ready - tranquil experience on an aeroplane. but cabin crew are there ready for i but cabin crew are there ready for this moment. _ but cabin crew are there ready for this moment, for— but cabin crew are there ready for this moment, for all— but cabin crew are there ready for this moment, for all the - but cabin crew are there ready for this moment, for all the time - but cabin crew are there ready for| this moment, for all the time they are involved — this moment, for all the time they are involved in _ this moment, for all the time they are involved in service, _ this moment, for all the time they are involved in service, their- this moment, for all the time they are involved in service, their focus is on _ are involved in service, their focus is on safety— are involved in service, their focus is on safety and _ are involved in service, their focus is on safety and every _ are involved in service, their focus is on safety and every landing - are involved in service, their focus is on safety and every landing is. are involved in service, their focus is on safety and every landing is al is on safety and every landing is a potential— is on safety and every landing is a potential outcome _ is on safety and every landing is a potential outcome like _ is on safety and every landing is a potential outcome like this - is on safety and every landing is a potential outcome like this and i is on safety and every landing is a . potential outcome like this and they are prepared — potential outcome like this and they are prepared for— potential outcome like this and they

are prepared for that. _ potential outcome like this and they are prepared for that. they- potential outcome like this and they are prepared for that. they are - potential outcome like this and they are prepared for that. they are the. are prepared for that. they are the last people — are prepared for that. they are the last people to _ are prepared for that. they are the last people to evacuate _ are prepared for that. they are the last people to evacuate the - last people to evacuate the aeroplane _ last people to evacuate the aeroplane so— last people to evacuate the aeroplane so particularly. last people to evacuate the i aeroplane so particularly think last people to evacuate the - aeroplane so particularly think how hard they— aeroplane so particularly think how hard they would _ aeroplane so particularly think how hard they would have _ aeroplane so particularly think how hard they would have to _ aeroplane so particularly think how hard they would have to have - aeroplane so particularly think how hard they would have to have workj aeroplane so particularly think how. hard they would have to have work to protect _ hard they would have to have work to protect the _ hard they would have to have work to protect the passengers _ hard they would have to have work to protect the passengers and _ hard they would have to have work to protect the passengers and on - hard they would have to have work to protect the passengers and on face . protect the passengers and on face value. _ protect the passengers and on face value. it _ protect the passengers and on face value. it looks— protect the passengers and on face value, it looks like _ protect the passengers and on face value, it looks like they _ protect the passengers and on face value, it looks like they have - protect the passengers and on face value, it looks like they have done| value, it looks like they have done an incredible — value, it looks like they have done an incredible job. _ value, it looks like they have done an incrediblejob. just— value, it looks like they have done an incredible job.— an incredible 'ob. just to reiterate well an incredible 'ob. just to reiterate weuperhaps— an incredible job. just to reiterate well perhaps people _ an incredible job. just to reiterate well perhaps people are - an incredible job. just to reiterate well perhaps people are joining i an incredible job. just to reiterate | well perhaps people are joining us well perhaps people arejoining us as we watch, five out of the six crew on the japan coastguard aircraft, which crashed with the japan airlines plain are unaccounted for and the japan airlines plain are unaccounted forand the captain, japan airlines plain are unaccounted for and the captain, as we understand it has managed to get out of that plane safely and the rest of the passengers on the japan airlines plain have been evacuated safely and the crew. so the bulk of people on the crew. so the bulk of people on the main passenger airline that were brought to safety before this massive fire we have been watching. this is when it first caught fire, the pictures you are seeing at the fire was really quite... it was a small fire and then it was starting

to become a big fire and then we have watched it simply engulf the plane with the rest of it breaking apart now. tell us about the procedures with the airports are putting out fires like this, because it is quite complicated, not necessarily the same type of fire depending on what is burning and at what point? the depending on what is burning and at what oint? ,. ., what point? the rescue and firefighting _ what point? the rescue and firefighting service - what point? the rescue and firefighting service at - what point? the rescue and firefighting service at any i what point? the rescue and - firefighting service at any airport is poised — firefighting service at any airport is poised to— firefighting service at any airport is poised to deploy _ firefighting service at any airport is poised to deploy to _ firefighting service at any airport is poised to deploy to any- firefighting service at any airport is poised to deploy to any part i firefighting service at any airport| is poised to deploy to any part of that environment— is poised to deploy to any part of that environment within - is poised to deploy to any part of that environment within three i that environment within three minutes _ that environment within three minutes. actually— that environment within three minutes. actually their- that environment within three minutes. actually their targetj that environment within three i minutes. actually their target is two minutes— minutes. actually their target is two minutes to _ minutes. actually their target is two minutes to get _ minutes. actually their target is two minutes to get to _ minutes. actually their target is two minutes to get to the - minutes. actually their target is. two minutes to get to the aircraft and the _ two minutes to get to the aircraft and the first _ two minutes to get to the aircraft and the first thing _ two minutes to get to the aircraft and the first thing they _ two minutes to get to the aircraft and the first thing they will - and the first thing they will prioritise _ and the first thing they will prioritise is— and the first thing they will prioritise is to _ and the first thing they will prioritise is to knock - and the first thing they will prioritise is to knock back. and the first thing they will i prioritise is to knock back any and the first thing they will - prioritise is to knock back any of the fire — prioritise is to knock back any of the fire that _ prioritise is to knock back any of the fire that might— prioritise is to knock back any of the fire that might impede - prioritise is to knock back any of the fire that might impede the i the fire that might impede the exits — the fire that might impede the exits so — the fire that might impede the exits. so whether— the fire that might impede the exits. so whether the - the fire that might impede the exits. so whether the doors i the fire that might impede the. exits. so whether the doors will open. _ exits. so whether the doors will open. where _ exits. so whether the doors will open, where the _ exits. so whether the doors will open, where the slides- exits. so whether the doors will open, where the slides will- exits. so whether the doors will. open, where the slides will come down. _ open, where the slides will come down. their— open, where the slides will come down, their focus— open, where the slides will come down, their focus will— open, where the slides will come down, their focus will be - open, where the slides will come down, their focus will be making| down, their focus will be making sure _ down, their focus will be making sure there — down, their focus will be making sure there is _ down, their focus will be making sure there is safe _ down, their focus will be making sure there is safe evacuation. i down, their focus will be making. sure there is safe evacuation. when those _ sure there is safe evacuation. when those aircraft — sure there is safe evacuation. when those aircraft are _ sure there is safe evacuation. when those aircraft are designed, - sure there is safe evacuation. when those aircraft are designed, they i those aircraft are designed, they are designed _ those aircraft are designed, they are designed to _ those aircraft are designed, they are designed to get _ those aircraft are designed, they are designed to get everybody i those aircraft are designed, theyi are designed to get everybody off those aircraft are designed, they i are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds — are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds or— are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds or less, _ are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds or less, with— are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds or less, with only- are designed to get everybody off in 90 seconds or less, with only half i 90 seconds or less, with only half of the _ 90 seconds or less, with only half of the exits— 90 seconds or less, with only half of the exits available. _ 90 seconds or less, with only half of the exits available. so - 90 seconds or less, with only half of the exits available. so in - of the exits available. so in theory. _ of the exits available. so in theory. people— of the exits available. so in theory, people should - of the exits available. so in theory, people should be i of the exits available. so in i theory, people should be able of the exits available. so in - theory, people should be able to move. _ theory, people should be able to move. but— theory, people should be able to move, but sometimes _ theory, people should be able to move, but sometimes we - theory, people should be able to move, but sometimes we see i theory, people should be able to move, but sometimes we see in| move, but sometimes we see in disasters — move, but sometimes we see in disasters people _ move, but sometimes we see in disasters people stop _ move, but sometimes we see in disasters people stop and - move, but sometimes we see in disasters people stop and try. move, but sometimes we see in disasters people stop and try to| move, but sometimes we see in .

disasters people stop and try to get their bags _ disasters people stop and try to get their bags and — disasters people stop and try to get their bags and they— disasters people stop and try to get their bags and they get _ disasters people stop and try to get their bags and they get stuck- disasters people stop and try to get their bags and they get stuck with l their bags and they get stuck with their bags and they get stuck with their seat— their bags and they get stuck with their seat belts, _ their bags and they get stuck with their seat belts, so _ their bags and they get stuck with their seat belts, so the _ their bags and they get stuck with their seat belts, so the cabin- their bags and they get stuck withj their seat belts, so the cabin crew play an— their seat belts, so the cabin crew play an important— their seat belts, so the cabin crew play an important job _ their seat belts, so the cabin crew play an important job in _ their seat belts, so the cabin crew. play an importantjob in encouraging people _ play an importantjob in encouraging people off— play an importantjob in encouraging people off the — play an importantjob in encouraging people off the aircraft _ play an importantjob in encouraging people off the aircraft and _ play an importantjob in encouraging people off the aircraft and making i people off the aircraft and making sure that — people off the aircraft and making sure that when _ people off the aircraft and making sure that when they— people off the aircraft and making sure that when they go _ people off the aircraft and making sure that when they go down - people off the aircraft and making sure that when they go down the. sure that when they go down the slides— sure that when they go down the slides they— sure that when they go down the slides they run _ sure that when they go down the slides they run away _ sure that when they go down the slides they run away and - sure that when they go down the slides they run away and so - sure that when they go down the slides they run away and so on. . sure that when they go down the i slides they run away and so on. the fire service — slides they run away and so on. the fire service will— slides they run away and so on. the fire service will be _ slides they run away and so on. the fire service will be dealing - slides they run away and so on. the fire service will be dealing with - fire service will be dealing with something _ fire service will be dealing with something that, _ fire service will be dealing with something that, in _ fire service will be dealing with something that, in this - fire service will be dealing with something that, in this case, i fire service will be dealing with something that, in this case, if| fire service will be dealing with. something that, in this case, if a wing _ something that, in this case, if a wing has — something that, in this case, if a wing has been _ something that, in this case, if a wing has been damaged - something that, in this case, if a wing has been damaged there i something that, in this case, if a i wing has been damaged there may something that, in this case, if a - wing has been damaged there may be fuel pouring _ wing has been damaged there may be fuel pouring off — wing has been damaged there may be fuel pouring off the _ wing has been damaged there may be fuel pouring off the aircraft _ wing has been damaged there may be fuel pouring off the aircraft and - fuel pouring off the aircraft and that pouring _ fuel pouring off the aircraft and that pouring fuel— fuel pouring off the aircraft and that pouring fuel makes - fuel pouring off the aircraft and that pouring fuel makes life - that pouring fuel makes life particularly _ that pouring fuel makes life particularly difficult. - that pouring fuel makes life particularly difficult. if - that pouring fuel makes life particularly difficult. if you. that pouring fuel makes life - particularly difficult. if you think about— particularly difficult. if you think about trying _ particularly difficult. if you think about trying to _ particularly difficult. if you think about trying to cover— particularly difficult. if you think about trying to cover a - particularly difficult. if you think about trying to cover a fire - particularly difficult. if you think about trying to cover a fire withi about trying to cover a fire with foam. — about trying to cover a fire with foam. as— about trying to cover a fire with foam. as the _ about trying to cover a fire with foam, as the fuel— about trying to cover a fire with foam, as the fuel runs, - about trying to cover a fire with foam, as the fuel runs, that. about trying to cover a fire with| foam, as the fuel runs, that can break— foam, as the fuel runs, that can break the — foam, as the fuel runs, that can break the foam _ foam, as the fuel runs, that can break the foam apart. _ foam, as the fuel runs, that can break the foam apart. the - foam, as the fuel runs, that canj break the foam apart. the focus foam, as the fuel runs, that can. break the foam apart. the focus is on trying _ break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to— break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to deliver _ break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to deliver as _ break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to deliver as much - break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to deliver as much of- break the foam apart. the focus is on trying to deliver as much of the extinguishing _ on trying to deliver as much of the extinguishing foam _ on trying to deliver as much of the extinguishing foam as _ on trying to deliver as much of the extinguishing foam as possible - on trying to deliver as much of the extinguishing foam as possible to| extinguishing foam as possible to try and _ extinguishing foam as possible to try and make _ extinguishing foam as possible to tryand make a _ extinguishing foam as possible to try and make a safe _ extinguishing foam as possible to try and make a safe enough- extinguishing foam as possible to try and make a safe enough exit. | extinguishing foam as possible to l try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire _ try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of— try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of this — try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of this type, _ try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of this type, they _ try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of this type, they are - try and make a safe enough exit. in a fire of this type, they are not - a fire of this type, they are not really— a fire of this type, they are not really trying _ a fire of this type, they are not really trying to _ a fire of this type, they are not really trying to put _ a fire of this type, they are not really trying to put it _ a fire of this type, they are not really trying to put it out - a fire of this type, they are not really trying to put it out to - a fire of this type, they are not i really trying to put it out to start with. _ really trying to put it out to start with. they're _ really trying to put it out to start with, they're trying _ really trying to put it out to start with, they're trying to _ really trying to put it out to start with, they're trying to make - really trying to put it out to start| with, they're trying to make sure really trying to put it out to start i with, they're trying to make sure it is safe _ with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for— with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for people _ with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for people to _ with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for people to get _ with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for people to get away- with, they're trying to make sure it is safe for people to get away fromj is safe for people to get away from the aircraft — is safe for people to get away from the aircraft and _ is safe for people to get away from the aircraft and then _ is safe for people to get away from the aircraft and then putting - is safe for people to get away from the aircraft and then putting out i the aircraft and then putting out the aircraft and then putting out the fire — the aircraft and then putting out the fire finally— the aircraft and then putting out the fire finally becomes - the aircraft and then putting out the fire finally becomes a - the aircraft and then putting out - the fire finally becomes a secondary task~ _ the fire finally becomes a secondary task. ., ., , , task. you said earlier in passing, the safety _ task. you said earlier in passing, the safety briefings _ task. you said earlier in passing, the safety briefings and - task. you said earlier in passing, the safety briefings and so - task. you said earlier in passing, the safety briefings and so often | the safety briefings and so often you see people not bothering to

listen to them, perhaps after this they will be listening to the safety briefing a bit more?— briefing a bit more? yes, i really ho -e so. briefing a bit more? yes, i really hope so- it _ briefing a bit more? yes, i really hope so- it is— briefing a bit more? yes, i really hope so. it is such _ briefing a bit more? yes, i really hope so. it is such an _ briefing a bit more? yes, i really hope so. it is such an importantl hope so. it is such an important thing _ hope so. it is such an important thing although— hope so. it is such an important thing. although we _ hope so. it is such an important thing. although we have - hope so. it is such an important. thing. although we have become hope so. it is such an important- thing. although we have become very blessed _ thing. although we have become very blessed in _ thing. although we have become very blessed in terms _ thing. although we have become very blessed in terms of _ thing. although we have become very blessed in terms of safety _ blessed in terms of safety performance, _ blessed in terms of safety performance, when - blessed in terms of safetyj performance, when things blessed in terms of safety i performance, when things go blessed in terms of safety - performance, when things go wrong blessed in terms of safety _ performance, when things go wrong it happens _ performance, when things go wrong it happens very— performance, when things go wrong it happens very quickly. _ performance, when things go wrong it happens very quickly, as _ performance, when things go wrong it happens very quickly, as we _ performance, when things go wrong it happens very quickly, as we saw - performance, when things go wrong it happens very quickly, as we saw in . happens very quickly, as we saw in this particular— happens very quickly, as we saw in this particular event. _ happens very quickly, as we saw in this particular event. if— happens very quickly, as we saw in this particular event. if for- happens very quickly, as we saw in this particular event. if for no - this particular event. if for no other— this particular event. if for no other reason— this particular event. if for no other reason than _ this particular event. if for no other reason than to - this particular event. if for no other reason than to respectl this particular event. if for no i other reason than to respect the professional— other reason than to respect the professional function— other reason than to respect the professional function of- other reason than to respect the professional function of the - other reason than to respect the i professional function of the cabin crew. _ professional function of the cabin crew. the — professional function of the cabin crew. the last— professional function of the cabin crew, the last person _ professional function of the cabin crew, the last person to- professional function of the cabin crew, the last person to get- professional function of the cabin crew, the last person to get off l professional function of the cabin l crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane — crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is— crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is likely _ crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is likely to _ crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is likely to be _ crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is likely to be a - crew, the last person to get off the aeroplane is likely to be a cabin - aeroplane is likely to be a cabin crew— aeroplane is likely to be a cabin crew member. _ aeroplane is likely to be a cabin crew member, understand - aeroplane is likely to be a cabin crew member, understand the. aeroplane is likely to be a cabin - crew member, understand the exits and how— crew member, understand the exits and how to — crew member, understand the exits and how to open. _ crew member, understand the exits and how to open, it— crew member, understand the exits and how to open, it is— crew member, understand the exits and how to open, it is really- and how to open, it is really important _ and how to open, it is really important it— and how to open, it is really important. it does- and how to open, it is really important. it does differ- and how to open, it is really- important. it does differ between aircraft. — important. it does differ between aircraft. as— important. it does differ between aircraft. as a— important. it does differ between aircraft, as a seasoned _ aircraft, as a seasoned professional, - aircraft, as a seasoned professional, i- aircraft, as a seasoned professional, i listen. aircraft, as a seasonedl professional, i listen to aircraft, as a seasoned - professional, i listen to the briefing _ professional, i listen to the briefing and _ professional, i listen to the briefing and make - professional, i listen to the briefing and make sure - professional, i listen to the briefing and make sure i. professional, i listen to the i briefing and make sure i know professional, i listen to the - briefing and make sure i know what i am doing _ briefing and make sure i know what i am doing we — briefing and make sure i know what i am doing. we know— briefing and make sure i know what i am doing. we know from _ briefing and make sure i know what i am doing. we know from accidents l briefing and make sure i know what i| am doing. we know from accidents in the past. _ am doing. we know from accidents in the past. the — am doing. we know from accidents in the past. the people _ am doing. we know from accidents in the past, the people who _ am doing. we know from accidents in the past, the people who have - am doing. we know from accidents in the past, the people who have paid i the past, the people who have paid attention— the past, the people who have paid attention on — the past, the people who have paid attention on board _ the past, the people who have paid attention on board are _ the past, the people who have paid attention on board are likely- the past, the people who have paid attention on board are likely to - attention on board are likely to survive — attention on board are likely to survive in — attention on board are likely to survive in an— attention on board are likely to survive in an accident - attention on board are likely to survive in an accident like - attention on board are likely to survive in an accident like this. j survive in an accident like this. just _ survive in an accident like this. just showing _ survive in an accident like this. just showing the _ survive in an accident like this. just showing the replay - survive in an accident like this. just showing the replay of - survive in an accident like this. i just showing the replay of earlier pictures when the fire was most intense, but we did see the evacuation shoots there. is it your understanding they didn't have to use them, it wasn't an evacuation

through the doors, it was through the shoots?— through the doors, it was through the shoots? absolutely, i have no doubt the slides _ the shoots? absolutely, i have no doubt the slides where _ the shoots? absolutely, i have no doubt the slides where the - the shoots? absolutely, i have no doubt the slides where the way. l the shoots? absolutely, i have no| doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic— doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic thing _ doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic thing to _ doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic thing to go _ doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic thing to go down - doubt the slides where the way. it is a dramatic thing to go down butj is a dramatic thing to go down but it will— is a dramatic thing to go down but it will get— is a dramatic thing to go down but it will get people _ is a dramatic thing to go down but it will get people off— is a dramatic thing to go down but it will get people off the _ is a dramatic thing to go down but it will get people off the aircraft i it will get people off the aircraft really _ it will get people off the aircraft really swiftly~ _ it will get people off the aircraft really swiftly. looking - it will get people off the aircraft really swiftly. looking at - it will get people off the aircraft really swiftly. looking at the . really swiftly. looking at the circumstances _ really swiftly. looking at the circumstances here, - really swiftly. looking at the circumstances here, as - really swiftly. looking at the circumstances here, as soon really swiftly. looking at the i circumstances here, as soon as really swiftly. looking at the - circumstances here, as soon as it was safe — circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to — circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to do _ circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to do so, _ circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to do so, the _ circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to do so, the cabin- circumstances here, as soon as it was safe to do so, the cabin crewi was safe to do so, the cabin crew will have — was safe to do so, the cabin crew will have opened _ was safe to do so, the cabin crew will have opened the _ was safe to do so, the cabin crew will have opened the doors - will have opened the doors automatically— will have opened the doors automatically and - will have opened the doors automatically and the - will have opened the doorsi automatically and the slides will have opened the doors - automatically and the slides would have inflated — automatically and the slides would have inflated and _ automatically and the slides would have inflated and that _ automatically and the slides would have inflated and that is _ automatically and the slides would have inflated and that is the - have inflated and that is the fastest _ have inflated and that is the fastest way _ have inflated and that is the fastest way of _ have inflated and that is the fastest way of the _ have inflated and that is the. fastest way of the aeroplane. have inflated and that is the . fastest way of the aeroplane. [it fastest way of the aeroplane. it shows fastest way of the aeroplane. shows they got offjust in time because the fire has been incredibly fast to spread through the aircraft, hasn't it? it fast to spread through the aircraft, hasn't it? . . , ., ., fast to spread through the aircraft, hasn't it? . . , ~ hasn't it? it certainly looks like it and that _ hasn't it? it certainly looks like it and that is _ hasn't it? it certainly looks like it and that isjust _ hasn't it? it certainly looks like it and that isjust a _ hasn't it? it certainly looks like it and that isjust a feature - hasn't it? it certainly looks like | it and that isjust a feature likely it and that is just a feature likely of the _ it and that is just a feature likely of the damage _ it and that is just a feature likely of the damage that _ it and that is just a feature likely of the damage that was - it and that is just a feature likely of the damage that was done - it and that is just a feature likely of the damage that was done to| it and that is just a feature likely i of the damage that was done to the aircraft _ of the damage that was done to the aircraft if— of the damage that was done to the aircraft if it— of the damage that was done to the aircraft. if it did _ of the damage that was done to the aircraft. if it did indeed _ of the damage that was done to the aircraft. if it did indeed collide - aircraft. if it did indeed collide with— aircraft. if it did indeed collide with another— aircraft. if it did indeed collide with another aircraft— aircraft. if it did indeed collide with another aircraft on - aircraft. if it did indeed collide with another aircraft on the i aircraft. if it did indeed collide - with another aircraft on the ground and if— with another aircraft on the ground and if you — with another aircraft on the ground and if you look— with another aircraft on the ground and if you look at _ with another aircraft on the ground and if you look at the _ with another aircraft on the ground and if you look at the leading - with another aircraft on the ground and if you look at the leading edgej and if you look at the leading edge of the _ and if you look at the leading edge ofthe engine — and if you look at the leading edge of the engine on _ and if you look at the leading edge of the engine on the _ and if you look at the leading edge of the engine on the left—hand - and if you look at the leading edge| of the engine on the left—hand side of the engine on the left—hand side of the _ of the engine on the left—hand side of the aircraft, _ of the engine on the left—hand side of the aircraft, you _ of the engine on the left—hand side of the aircraft, you can _ of the engine on the left—hand side of the aircraft, you can see - of the engine on the left—hand side of the aircraft, you can see some . of the aircraft, you can see some damage. — of the aircraft, you can see some damage. it — of the aircraft, you can see some damage. it has— of the aircraft, you can see some damage, it has clearly— of the aircraft, you can see some damage, it has clearly impacted i damage, it has clearly impacted something _ damage, it has clearly impacted something. that— damage, it has clearly impacted something. that is— damage, it has clearly impacted something. that is going - damage, it has clearly impacted something. that is going to- damage, it has clearly impacted something. that is going to be i damage, it has clearly impacted| something. that is going to be a large _ something. that is going to be a large release _ something. that is going to be a large release of— something. that is going to be a large release of fuel— something. that is going to be a large release of fuel and - something. that is going to be a large release of fuel and you - something. that is going to be a large release of fuel and you are likely— large release of fuel and you are likely to — large release of fuel and you are likely to get _ large release of fuel and you are likely to get large, _ large release of fuel and you are likely to get large, intense - large release of fuel and you are likely to get large, intense fire l large release of fuel and you arei likely to get large, intense fire as a result— likely to get large, intense fire as a result of— likely to get large, intense fire as a result of that. _

likely to get large, intense fire as a result of that. into _ likely to get large, intense fire as a result of that. into the - likely to get large, intense fire as a result of that. into the cabin - likely to get large, intense fire as a result of that. into the cabin of| a result of that. into the cabin of the aircraft. _ a result of that. into the cabin of the aircraft, you _ a result of that. into the cabin of the aircraft, you will— a result of that. into the cabin of the aircraft, you will see - a result of that. into the cabin of the aircraft, you will see the - the aircraft, you will see the nraterials _ the aircraft, you will see the materials they _ the aircraft, you will see the materials they make - the aircraft, you will see the materials they make the - the aircraft, you will see the . materials they make the seats the aircraft, you will see the - materials they make the seats from and the _ materials they make the seats from and the seat — materials they make the seats from and the seat cushions _ materials they make the seats from and the seat cushions are _ materials they make the seats from and the seat cushions are designed | and the seat cushions are designed to he _ and the seat cushions are designed to he fire _ and the seat cushions are designed to be fire resistant— and the seat cushions are designed to be fire resistant and _ and the seat cushions are designed to be fire resistant and we - and the seat cushions are designed to be fire resistant and we have - to be fire resistant and we have learnt _ to be fire resistant and we have learnt a — to be fire resistant and we have learnt a lot _ to be fire resistant and we have learnt a lot about _ to be fire resistant and we have learnt a lot about back- to be fire resistant and we have learnt a lot about back to - to be fire resistant and we have . learnt a lot about back to accidents that happened _ learnt a lot about back to accidents that happened in _ learnt a lot about back to accidents that happened in the _ learnt a lot about back to accidents that happened in the 1980s. - learnt a lot about back to accidents that happened in the 1980s. they. learnt a lot about back to accidents . that happened in the 1980s. they are resistihle, _ that happened in the 1980s. they are resistihle, not— that happened in the 1980s. they are resistible, not fireproof _ that happened in the 1980s. they are resistible, not fireproof and - that happened in the 1980s. they are resistible, not fireproof and i - that happened in the 1980s. they are resistible, not fireproof and i am - resistible, not fireproof and i am surprised — resistible, not fireproof and i am surprised with _ resistible, not fireproof and i am surprised with that _ resistible, not fireproof and i am surprised with that amount - resistible, not fireproof and i am surprised with that amount of. resistible, not fireproof and i am i surprised with that amount of fuel that such — surprised with that amount of fuel that such an— surprised with that amount of fuel that such an intense _ surprised with that amount of fuel that such an intense fire - surprised with that amount of fuel that such an intense fire did - that such an intense fire did ultimately— that such an intense fire did ultimately develop. - that such an intense fire did ultimately develop.- that such an intense fire did ultimately develop. airbus have confirmed the _ ultimately develop. airbus have confirmed the aircraft _ ultimately develop. airbus have confirmed the aircraft wasn't i ultimately develop. airbus have confirmed the aircraft wasn't a l ultimately develop. airbus have i confirmed the aircraft wasn't a 350 and they have a fleet of 17 of them, so presumably they will look at all the airliners they have in the light of this accident? that the airliners they have in the light of this accident?— of this accident? that is a very normal response _ of this accident? that is a very normal response for _ of this accident? that is a very normal response for any - of this accident? that is a very| normal response for any airline of this accident? that is a very - normal response for any airline that if an accident— normal response for any airline that if an accident happens _ normal response for any airline that if an accident happens involving - normal response for any airline that if an accident happens involving ani if an accident happens involving an aeroplane — if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type, _ if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type. you _ if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type, you want - if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type, you want to - if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type, you want to see i if an accident happens involving an aeroplane type, you want to see if| aeroplane type, you want to see if there _ aeroplane type, you want to see if there is— aeroplane type, you want to see if there is any— aeroplane type, you want to see if there is any implication _ aeroplane type, you want to see if there is any implication for- aeroplane type, you want to see if there is any implication for the - there is any implication for the fleet — there is any implication for the fleet what _ there is any implication for the fleet. what we _ there is any implication for the fleet. what we see _ there is any implication for the fleet. what we see here - there is any implication for the fleet. what we see here is - there is any implication for the fleet. what we see here is a l there is any implication for the - fleet. what we see here is a ground collision _ fleet. what we see here is a ground collision and — fleet. what we see here is a ground collision and it _ fleet. what we see here is a ground collision and it would _ fleet. what we see here is a ground collision and it would make - fleet. what we see here is a ground collision and it would make no - collision and it would make no difference _ collision and it would make no difference what _ collision and it would make no difference what type _ collision and it would make no difference what type of- collision and it would make no| difference what type of aircraft collision and it would make no . difference what type of aircraft it was in _ difference what type of aircraft it was in that — difference what type of aircraft it was in that sense. _ difference what type of aircraft it was in that sense. at _ difference what type of aircraft it was in that sense. at airbus, -

was in that sense. at airbus, absolutely— was in that sense. at airbus, absolutely everybody - was in that sense. at airbus, absolutely everybody else i was in that sense. at airbus, l absolutely everybody else will was in that sense. at airbus, - absolutely everybody else will want to learn _ absolutely everybody else will want to learn from — absolutely everybody else will want to learn from this, _ absolutely everybody else will want to learn from this, this _ absolutely everybody else will want to learn from this, this is— absolutely everybody else will want to learn from this, this is the - to learn from this, this is the first— to learn from this, this is the first accident— to learn from this, this is the first accident involving - to learn from this, this is the first accident involving a350, to learn from this, this is the . first accident involving a350, it to learn from this, this is the - first accident involving a350, it is a very— first accident involving a350, it is a very nrodern _ first accident involving a350, it is a very modern design, _ first accident involving a350, it is a very modern design, an - first accident involving a350, it is l a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane _ a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane with _ a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane with lots _ a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane with lots of _ a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane with lots of features - a very modern design, an incredible aeroplane with lots of features to l aeroplane with lots of features to it and _ aeroplane with lots of features to it and they — aeroplane with lots of features to it and they will _ aeroplane with lots of features to it and they will want _ aeroplane with lots of features to it and they will want to _ aeroplane with lots of features to it and they will want to see - aeroplane with lots of features to it and they will want to see how. it and they will want to see how those _ it and they will want to see how those features _ it and they will want to see how those features help, _ it and they will want to see how those features help, or- it and they will want to see how those features help, or if- it and they will want to see howl those features help, or if indeed there _ those features help, or if indeed there was— those features help, or if indeed there was anything _ those features help, or if indeed there was anything they - those features help, or if indeed there was anything they might . those features help, or if indeed i there was anything they might want to inrprove — there was anything they might want to improve but— there was anything they might want to improve but i_ there was anything they might want to improve. but i think— there was anything they might want to improve. but i think the - there was anything they might want to improve. but i think the actual. to improve. but i think the actual type of— to improve. but i think the actual type of aircraft— to improve. but i think the actual type of aircraft probably - to improve. but i think the actual type of aircraft probably didn't i type of aircraft probably didn't make — type of aircraft probably didn't make a — type of aircraft probably didn't make a difference _ type of aircraft probably didn't make a difference to - type of aircraft probably didn't make a difference to the - type of aircraft probably didn'tl make a difference to the actual event — make a difference to the actual event it — make a difference to the actual event. it might _ make a difference to the actual event. it might have _ make a difference to the actual event. it might have made - make a difference to the actual event. it might have made a i event. it might have made a difference _ event. it might have made a difference in _ event. it might have made a difference in terms - event. it might have made a difference in terms of - event. it might have made a - difference in terms of survivability and that _ difference in terms of survivability and that is— difference in terms of survivability and that is something _ difference in terms of survivability and that is something they- difference in terms of survivability and that is something they will. difference in terms of survivability and that is something they will bej and that is something they will be very interested _ and that is something they will be very interested in. _ and that is something they will be very interested in. he _ and that is something they will be very interested in.— very interested in. he mentioned earlier the _ very interested in. he mentioned earlier the seats _ very interested in. he mentioned earlier the seats and _ very interested in. he mentioned earlier the seats and the - very interested in. he mentioned| earlier the seats and the material they are made of, let's look inside they are made of, let's look inside the aeroplane itself while people are watching the smoke as they came into land. perhaps that might have been at the point when they were about to evacuate. but that is from inside the plane when the smoke was already filling, so it must have been terrifying for those 379 people on board the plane. i am been terrifying for those 379 people on board the plane.— on board the plane. i am sure it was.

on board the plane. i am sure it was- what— on board the plane. i am sure it was. what we _ on board the plane. i am sure it was. what we say _ on board the plane. i am sure it was. what we say in _ on board the plane. i am sure it was. what we say in terms - on board the plane. i am sure it was. what we say in terms of i was. what we say in terms of materials _ was. what we say in terms of materials and _ was. what we say in terms of materials and so _ was. what we say in terms of materials and so on, - was. what we say in terms of materials and so on, is- was. what we say in terms of materials and so on, is to - was. what we say in terms of. materials and so on, is to make was. what we say in terms of- materials and so on, is to make sure that during _ materials and so on, is to make sure that during the — materials and so on, is to make sure that during the evacuation _ materials and so on, is to make sure that during the evacuation they- materials and so on, is to make sure that during the evacuation they not l that during the evacuation they not getting _ that during the evacuation they not getting poisonous _ that during the evacuation they not getting poisonous smoke _ that during the evacuation they not getting poisonous smoke in- that during the evacuation they not getting poisonous smoke in the - getting poisonous smoke in the cabin — getting poisonous smoke in the cabin back— getting poisonous smoke in the cabin back in— getting poisonous smoke in the cabin. back in 1985, _ getting poisonous smoke in the cabin. back in 1985, there - getting poisonous smoke in the cabin. back in 1985, there wasi getting poisonous smoke in the| cabin. back in 1985, there was a very— cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad — cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad fire _ cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad fire on _ cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad fire on an— cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad fire on an aircraft - cabin. back in 1985, there was a very bad fire on an aircraft in- very bad fire on an aircraft in manchester— very bad fire on an aircraft in manchester airport - very bad fire on an aircraft in manchester airport and - very bad fire on an aircraft in. manchester airport and because very bad fire on an aircraft in- manchester airport and because of the materials— manchester airport and because of the materials on _ manchester airport and because of the materials on that _ manchester airport and because of the materials on that aircraft, - the materials on that aircraft, people — the materials on that aircraft, people are _ the materials on that aircraft, people are breathing - the materials on that aircraft, people are breathing in - the materials on that aircraft, people are breathing in the i the materials on that aircraft, - people are breathing in the smoke and it— people are breathing in the smoke and it made — people are breathing in the smoke and it made it— people are breathing in the smoke and it made it difficult _ people are breathing in the smoke and it made it difficult for- people are breathing in the smoke and it made it difficult for them i people are breathing in the smoke and it made it difficult for them to| and it made it difficult for them to evacuate — and it made it difficult for them to evacuate and _ and it made it difficult for them to evacuate and many _ and it made it difficult for them to evacuate and many died _ and it made it difficult for them to evacuate and many died as - and it made it difficult for them to evacuate and many died as a - evacuate and many died as a consequence _ evacuate and many died as a consequence. we _ evacuate and many died as a consequence. we learned i evacuate and many died as a consequence. we learned ai evacuate and many died as a - consequence. we learned a huge amount— consequence. we learned a huge amount as — consequence. we learned a huge amount as an— consequence. we learned a huge amount as an industry— consequence. we learned a huge amount as an industry from - consequence. we learned a huge amount as an industry from the i amount as an industry from the accident — amount as an industry from the accident and _ amount as an industry from the accident and that _ amount as an industry from the accident and that is _ amount as an industry from the accident and that is one - amount as an industry from the accident and that is one of- amount as an industry from the accident and that is one of the i accident and that is one of the things— accident and that is one of the things that _ accident and that is one of the things that has _ accident and that is one of the things that has informed - accident and that is one of the things that has informed the l things that has informed the standard _ things that has informed the standard international- things that has informed the - standard international regulators reguire. — standard international regulators require. the _ standard international regulators require, the standard _ standard international regulators require, the standard even- standard international regulators i require, the standard even airlines themselves— require, the standard even airlines themselves choose _ require, the standard even airlines themselves choose to _ require, the standard even airlines themselves choose to follow- require, the standard even airlines themselves choose to follow in - themselves choose to follow in making — themselves choose to follow in making sure _ themselves choose to follow in making sure the _ themselves choose to follow in making sure the cabin- themselves choose to follow in making sure the cabin is- themselves choose to follow in making sure the cabin is as - making sure the cabin is as survivable _ making sure the cabin is as survivable as _ making sure the cabin is as survivable as possible. - making sure the cabin is as survivable as possible. but| making sure the cabin is as - survivable as possible. but you are talking _ survivable as possible. but you are talking about — survivable as possible. but you are talking about surviving _ survivable as possible. but you are talking about surviving those - survivable as possible. but you are talking about surviving those few. talking about surviving those few minutes — talking about surviving those few minutes to — talking about surviving those few minutes to evacuate _ talking about surviving those few minutes to evacuate an - talking about surviving those few minutes to evacuate an aircraft l talking about surviving those few| minutes to evacuate an aircraft in talking about surviving those few. minutes to evacuate an aircraft in a very unusual — minutes to evacuate an aircraft in a very unusual circumstance - 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thank you very much - aircraft... sorry to interrupt, thank you very much for - aircraft... sorry to interrupt, thank you very much for the | aircraft... sorry to interrupt, - thank you very much for the moment. stay with us on bbc news with this breaking story from tokyo and a severe fire at the airport. hello. a new year, but another named storm this morning the met office have named storm henk. the weather system which is crossing the uk today set to bring potential for damaging and disruptive winds. with it they've issued a met office amber weather warning for strong winds across parts of the south west, southeast wales, m4 corridor, south midlands towards east anglia. these are where the peak gusts are likely to be 60, maybe 70 miles an hour, causing some problems. but even more widely across the south, we could still see winds top 60 miles an hour outside that warning area. and some very strong winds today in the north of scotland. in between the winds much lighter, but rain could be more of an issue. rain's the added feature to this storm causing some flooding potentially across parts

of wales, the midlands. that rain this afternoon sliding across northern england, far south of scotland and just clips the east of northern ireland. brightens up compared to this morning through central scotland, brighter afternoon in southern most counties that rain eases, but the winds will continue to strengthen. and a particularly wild evening rush hour across some of the south, particularly east anglia and the southeast before that, rain gradually clears. lots of surface water and spray on the roads into the first part of the night and then later on, a scattering of showers mainly across the south, in the west, some of those heavy and thundery. more in the way of persistent rain in orkney with some sleet and snow mixed in shetland — two degrees here but milder elsewhere to start the day. storm henk, though, is off in towards northern europe as we go through into wednesday. it's still left with a broad area of low pressure, though, and that means we're going to see a feeding ground for showers. more persistent rain through orkney, sleet and snow mixed in in shetland with strong winds remaining and still blustery across the south, but nowhere near as windy as today. more persistent rain through orkney, sleet and snow mixed in in shetland with strong winds remaining and still blustery across the south, but nowhere near as windy as today. where you see the showers especially across central parts of the country, they could be slow moving,

could be some heavy and thundery ones. but there will be some on wednesday who stayed dry and a good deal brighter than you'll see through this afternoon. temperatures down a little bit, but still above where they should be for this stage in january. colder night to take us into thursday. there's still a chance of some showers around, particularly the north and the west, but increased likelihood we could see some more persistent rain through the channel islands just clip into southern counties of england as we go through the second half of the day. temperatures starting to drop, but that area of rain and low pressure will move out the way as we go through into friday. a few showers around on friday, but then is the weekend and beyond, it looks like we should see a longer spell of dry weather. it will feel colder with overnight frost and fog, but thankfully no named storms.

live from london, this is bbc news. five people are missing in tokyo after a plane carrying earthquake aid collided on the runway with a large passenger plane that burst into flames. nearly 380 passengers and crew were safely evacuated from the airbus a350 jet. that plane is on fire on the runway at tokyo's haneda airport, with reports that the japan airlines aircraft collided with a coastguard plane as it landed. searching for survivors — japanese officials say at least 48 people have died and many others are trapped beneath rubble, after a powerful earthquake. ukraine suffers another intense night of russian bombardment, leaving at least four people dead. ukraine's air defence claims 35 drones were shot down.