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antony blinken — is in israel to discuss the next phase of the war in gaza. we have to get through this challenging moment to make sure october seven never happens again, and work to build a much different and work to build a much different and different future. old gabriel attal as prime minister. he becomes the youngest to hold the role in modern french history. hello. welcome to bbc news. three hours of fast moving news, interviews and reaction and we start with breaking news this hour. it has been said that 2023 left it tumbling like dominoes, recounting the hottest year ever recorded and
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the hottest year ever recorded and the global temperature was m387 celsius, beating the previous hottest year set in 2016 by zero .17 celsius according to the eu climate change service, copernicus. the met office in the uk believes this record could be short lived. they are forecasting that 2024 could be even hotter. we are keeping a close eye on the people at copernicus who we understand will give a press conference in the next few minutes orso conference in the next few minutes or so updating us on their research and evidence. watching that for us is our climate change editor, just in raleigh. we were expecting this. we change editor, just in raleigh. we were expecting this.— were expecting this. we were expecting _ were expecting this. we were expecting 23 _ were expecting this. we were expecting 23 was _ were expecting this. we were expecting 23 was the - were expecting this. we were expecting 23 was the hottest | expecting 23 was the hottest year ever recorded. and by a significant margin. it might not sound much but the record was broken by 0.17 celsius and this is a global
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average, and you would expect it if it is broken, and it shouldn't be broken every year, but it is broken you would expect it to be a tiny margin, 0.0110.02, but not .0 .17 is a significant margin, but it's fair to say records have been smashed. the bbc has done an analysis of the copernicus data which is the climate monitoring organisation for europe and we found 210 days last year set daily global temperature records. 210 days. daily global temperature records. 210 da s. ., ,, daily global temperature records. 210 da s. ., .«r daily global temperature records. 210da s. ., , ., 210 days. can you take us through the science _ 210 days. can you take us through the science of— 210 days. can you take us through the science of this? _ 210 days. can you take us through the science of this? why - 210 days. can you take us through the science of this? why is - 210 days. can you take us through the science of this? why is the - the science of this? why is the world warming? it’s the science of this? why is the world warming?— the science of this? why is the world warming? it's a complex icture world warming? it's a complex picture and _ world warming? it's a complex picture and underlying - world warming? it's a complex picture and underlying it - world warming? it's a complex picture and underlying it all. world warming? it's a complex picture and underlying it all is| world warming? it's a complex i picture and underlying it all is the increase in greenhouse gas emissions produced by the activities of humanity which is probably eminently —— phenomenally carbon dioxide but also methane emissions are increasingly and we have extra factors this year as there is a weather fluctuation which happens factors this year as there is a weatherfluctuation which happens in the pacific and it means more warm
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water or ocean water is exposed and that gives an extra fillip to global temperatures and that began at the beginning of this year and will continue into this year, and that is one feature and there were some other changes in the amount of dust and particulates admitted into the atmosphere because of rules on shipping and a volcanic eruption, so it cause changes, but the underlying key story is that climate change driven by man's activities is relentlessly driving up temperatures. the frightening thing is scientists say in ten years' time, this will probably look like a cool year. time, this will probably look like a cool ear. �* , ., ~ cool year. and next year the met office saying _ cool year. and next year the met office saying it — cool year. and next year the met office saying it could _ cool year. and next year the met office saying it could be - cool year. and next year the met office saying it could be even - office saying it could be even worse. we were listening to the scientists from copernicus who are in bonn. , , ., ., , in bonn. they provide millions in observation _ in bonn. they provide millions in observation with _ in bonn. they provide millions in observation with model - in bonn. they provide millions in observation with model outputsl in bonn. they provide millions in i observation with model outputs to produce maps without gaps, describing the state of the planet for every place on the planet at any
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hour. they contribute significantly to the information that supports evidence—based policy—making, such as the latest ipcc assessment report. thanks to the copernicus free and open data access policy, anyone can make use of the copernicus satellite observations, models and other products about past, present and future climate and transform them into useful insights for planetary resilience. all european countries need to drive down carbon emissions and this is an undeniable and tough undertaking but data from the copernicus services can play an important role to demonstrate progress towards net zero. the on the continuation of the measurement, the copernicus programme will employ new satellites to offer the possibility to monitor c02 to offer the possibility to monitor co2 emissions in support of the un
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planet agreement. in closing, i would like to congratulate and thank ecm wf in running c3 5 and all those who have contributed for summarising this important 2023 finding. and with that i go back to other colleagues for more details of the 2023 global climate highlight and thank you very much.— thank you very much. thank you, marrow, thank you very much. thank you, marrow. and _ thank you very much. thank you, marrow, and he _ thank you very much. thank you, marrow, and he will— thank you very much. thank you, marrow, and he will be _ thank you very much. thank you, marrow, and he will be staying i thank you very much. thank you, i marrow, and he will be staying with us for _ marrow, and he will be staying with us for a _ marrow, and he will be staying with us for a question and answer session coming _ us for a question and answer session coming later— us for a question and answer session coming later was now to introduce the copernicus climate change service — the copernicus climate change service and its work i'd like to director— service and its work i'd like to director to— service and its work i'd like to director to say a few words. as we suspected. _ director to say a few words. as we suspected. a _ director to say a few words. as we suspected. a lot — director to say a few words. as we suspected, a lot of _ director to say a few words. as we suspected, a lot of technical - suspected, a lot of technical detail. and yourjob after we have finished is to go and listen to all of it and gather the most important bits from those copernicus scientists giving this news conference, but i heard the word adaptability there and that is key. what is happening there? i’d adaptability there and that is key. what is happening there?- adaptability there and that is key. what is happening there? i'd like to no throu~h what is happening there? i'd like to go through some — what is happening there? i'd like to
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go through some of _ what is happening there? i'd like to go through some of the _ what is happening there? i'd like to go through some of the highlights l go through some of the highlights and i presume at the top it would be what they have discovered. we heard it's a temperature record broken by a huge margin and was 1.48 celsius above the preindustrial temperatures across the year and remember paris in 2015 when the well set a target of trying to keep global temperatures and limit the global temperatures and limit the global temperatures to 1.5, so we are nudging up to the 1.5 level and one single year would not mean we breach 1.4 and that's a 20 year average but it shows the direction of movement and 2023 was the first year on record, every single day was one degree above preindustrial temperatures and almost half of the day was 1.5 cc saw more and we even had two days to degrees above preindustrial levels, the first time we've seen margins of temperature rise of that sort so again, telling us the direction of movement and
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every single month from june to december was warmer than the corresponding year and even more dramatic figures for sea temperatures where we had an extraordinary atlantic heatwave at the beginning of the year that climate scientists struggle to explain and that meant surface sea temperatures have been at record levels all the way from april to december so just to set the picture for this year we have very high sea temperatures across the world going into the new year and that's one of the reasons why scientists expect it to be hotter than 2023.— to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you _ to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you go — to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you go and _ to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you go and listen - to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you go and listen to - to be hotter than 2023. justin we will let you go and listen to the l will let you go and listen to the scientists but we wanted to give you a sense of the effect that this kind of warming is having and let's take you to guy who joins us and our correspondent from nairobi. good to see you both. guy, i've almost lost the number of times we've spoken
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about the heat in spain and portugal across the invariant peninsula and the fires as well. it's really having an effect in your part of the world. , , ., world. yes, it is, and the un environment _ world. yes, it is, and the un environment programme - world. yes, it is, and the un | environment programme says world. yes, it is, and the un - environment programme says that the mediterranean region as a whole is seeing temperatures increase 20% faster than the global average so that's a particular concern in this part of the world. one of the symptoms of that has been the heatwaves and we saw a series of heatwaves and we saw a series of heat waves across southern europe and many other parts of europe in the summer of 2023 for example the cobras heatwave which was particularly fierce and pushed temperatures up to the mid—40s in southern italy. and that's one of the many symptoms, but we are not just seeing more heatwaves or higher temperatures, it's also the case we seem to be see heatwaves taking place earlier and earlier in the year so in place earlier and earlier in the yearso in spain place earlier and earlier in the year so in spain we had a heatwave
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last year that started in april and we were seeing temperatures you would normally associate with midsummer, in the mid—30s in april, and that had never happened before. and obviously you mention wildfires, and that's one of the many repercussions we see and that's been a huge problem in spain, in greece, southern france and italy but also tourism can be affected by this and in greece last summer the acropolis monument was closed down temporarily because of concerns about people queueing up to see the monument, so there are all sorts of repercussions caused by this that can have many effects, some of them social, economic as well.— effects, some of them social, economic as well. take us through the effects — economic as well. take us through the effects of— economic as well. take us through the effects of the _ economic as well. take us through the effects of the warming - economic as well. take us through the effects of the warming climate j the effects of the warming climate in your part of the world. boufal well, lucy, in africa we have seen the real—time effects of climate change and extreme weather events
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east africa and the horn of africa was experience famine and drought and the un said about 27 million people in kenya and somalia were facing hunger due to not having enough rain because this relies heavily on rain fed agriculture, so the real—time effect of people going hungry because of famine and drought. hungry because of famine and drou~ht. �* ., .,, drought. and then the end of last earthe drought. and then the end of last year the reverse _ drought. and then the end of last year the reverse was _ drought. and then the end of last year the reverse was happening l drought. and then the end of last| year the reverse was happening as drought. and then the end of last - year the reverse was happening as we saw a _ year the reverse was happening as we saw a lot— year the reverse was happening as we saw a lot of— year the reverse was happening as we saw a lot of rainfall through the el nino phenomenon and we saw people losing _ nino phenomenon and we saw people losing their _ nino phenomenon and we saw people losing their lives due to floods in countries — losing their lives due to floods in countries where the systems in place are not— countries where the systems in place are not sufficient in order to address— are not sufficient in order to address the effects we are seeing on the continent going farther down to malawi _ the continent going farther down to malawi and zimbabwe countries that expense _ malawi and zimbabwe countries that expense heavy rainfall towards the end of— expense heavy rainfall towards the end of last year and scientists say there _ end of last year and scientists say there is— end of last year and scientists say there is a — end of last year and scientists say there is a direct correlation between _ there is a direct correlation between climate change and what is
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happening in this part of the world. it's happening in this part of the world. it's the _ happening in this part of the world. it's the eu — happening in this part of the world. it's the eu scientists who have made the announcement and it's long been known in the eu, the kind of challenges that global warming has presented to the continent, but what sort of solutions or adaptations are taking place in europe to mitigate the heat? a , taking place in europe to mitigate the heat? , . , ., taking place in europe to mitigate theheat? ,~ , ., , the heat? many cities we are seeing a very specific _ the heat? many cities we are seeing a very specific attempt _ the heat? many cities we are seeing a very specific attempt to _ the heat? many cities we are seeing a very specific attempt to counter i a very specific attempt to counter the heat basic things like planting more trees in cities so there is more trees in cities so there is more shade for people in the height of summer and more water fountains and we could go further north to frankfurt in germany where they have these cooling coverings where waters are sprayed at pedestrians as they walk the streets, so we are seeing more and more initiatives like that and here in madrid last summerfor example people were invited during
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the hottest times of the summer to go to public spaces like libraries and civic centres during the hottest time of day to escape the heat for places where there was air—conditioning because there were concerns about the health and i think we will see more and more initiatives like that notjust in spain but across europe but when you get beyond the cities you have a whole other set of challenges, out in the countryside who have farmers who are affected by this and here in spain there is a massive problem with drought and that's already affecting harvests and that prevents —— presents all sorts of concerns and there is a lot of work being done at the moment in spain to work out how to distribute water and in an efficient way outside of the cities. . ., , ., , cities. some huge challenges as well for --eole cities. some huge challenges as well for people in — cities. some huge challenges as well for people in africa. _ cities. some huge challenges as well for people in africa. the _ cities. some huge challenges as well for people in africa. the african - for people in africa. the african leaders have — for people in africa. the african leaders have been _ for people in africa. the african leaders have been trying - for people in africa. the african leaders have been trying to - for people in africa. the african i leaders have been trying to come for people in africa. the african - leaders have been trying to come up with solutions and feel that the
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western— with solutions and feel that the western world needs to pay more attention— western world needs to pay more attention to what is going on on the continent _ attention to what is going on on the continent and addressing some of the challenges _ continent and addressing some of the challenges we have spoken about and last year _ challenges we have spoken about and last year we saw kania hosting the african _ last year we saw kania hosting the african climate summer to harness responses — african climate summer to harness responses from african leaders to best respond to the challenges we are seeing currently.— are seeing currently. good to get our are seeing currently. good to get your thoughts — are seeing currently. good to get your thoughts from _ are seeing currently. good to get your thoughts from your - are seeing currently. good to get your thoughts from your parts i are seeing currently. good to get your thoughts from your parts of| are seeing currently. good to get. your thoughts from your parts of the world. thank you forjoining us. don't forget the website as well and if you do go to the bbc website you will see all of the research collated there for you and the latest graphs and figures as well, so log on and take a look. 2023 confirmed as the worlds hottest year on record. you're live with bbc news. australia's prime minister says the country is considering setting up a disaster relief force to help relieve a military overstretched by regular natural disasters. it's as towns in the country's south—east were evacuated due to flooding. our correspondent
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phil mercer has more. what we've heard is in the last few hours from anthony albanese, he is the australian prime minister and he is considering setting up a reserve force to help respond to natural disasters to ease the burden on the australian military. now last year there was a review of australia's military capabilities and it said that the military�*s job to respond to natural disasters was taking it away from its core objective of defending the country. so anthony albanese is suggesting that a permanent force could be on standby to help with natural disasters, and also mr albanese saying that extreme weather events in this country were becoming more intense and more frequent. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. in the last hour, president macron
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has named a new french prime minister to take over from elizabeth borne who resigned on monday. he's the current education minister gabriel attal who, at 34, becomes the youngest prime minister in modern french history. he's also the first person in the post to be openly gay. a macron loyalist, attal previously served as education minister. he caused controversy last year when he announced a ban on the abaya, a head covering worn by muslim girls and women, in schools. he will now have the task of leading the french government into the european parliament elections injune. live now to our correspondent in paris hugh schofield. was this a decision that was expected? was he one of the frontrunners? he expected? was he one of the frontrunners?— expected? was he one of the frontrunners? ., , ., ~ frontrunners? he was under a week aro frontrunners? he was under a week auo it frontrunners? he was under a week ago it would — frontrunners? he was under a week ago it would have _ frontrunners? he was under a week ago it would have been _ frontrunners? he was under a week ago it would have been a _ frontrunners? he was under a week ago it would have been a surprise i ago it would have been a surprise but since then the odds have narrowed considerably and by yesterday all of the speculation was
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that it was going to be gabriel attal after other people close to emmanuel macron dropped out or did not seem to be in the running any more, there were hints emerging it was going to be attal. it's still a great story and an interesting appointment because as you say, he's so young and the fact that he is gay, not that it makes a difference but that makes it interesting to but what is interesting is what a similar profile he has to president macron himself. this is a young man who wants to break the codes of french politics and do things differently and was clearly seduced ljy differently and was clearly seduced by the emmanuel macron message back in 2016 and 17 and has been a loyalist to emmanuel macron throughout that period. in parliament where he was newly elected mp, he was one of the soldiers who are there defending emmanuel macron in his first term
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with great panache and his enemies admit he hurts been rather brilliant. the question is, was it enough? the critics will say he is great, but what is there to him? is there substance to him and is he more thanjust a there substance to him and is he more than just a handsome and dashing personality. what are his politics and that remains something of an open question and an important one as you say and it's very exciting with the european elections in a few months' time which will probably lead to a big win for the hard right and there is the olympics and all of that, so it's a challenge and all of that, so it's a challenge and it won't be enough just to have and it won't be enough just to have a handsome way and are winning, charming, cogent manner of talking. so not necessarily any major political ship with the appointment because he is so close to present ronaldo, but how much to the two of
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them need to move on from the big story of last year —— to president macron. story of last year -- to president macron. �* , story of last year -- to president macron. �*, , , ., story of last year -- to president macron. �*, , ., ., ~ macron. it's impossible to talk about a change _ macron. it's impossible to talk about a change in _ macron. it's impossible to talk about a change in policy - macron. it's impossible to talk. about a change in policy because macron. it's impossible to talk- about a change in policy because you have this double—ended system where there are two executives and it can shift a little here and there but basically it's the president that calls the shots and says what he wants his prime minister to do. what president macron wants attal to do is not entirely clear, this has been a big criticism of his second term, but it's been a sense of drift instead of a sense of purpose and the positivism of the first term has gone and we wait a little to find out what exactly he wants gabriel to do. they want to move ahead from last year where there was constant trouble for the outgoing prime minister who, to give her her due, had to battle hard to get through very tough bits of legislation in the parliament which has no majority of the government, and that's going to be attal�*s big problem as well,
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there is no majority in—built for him and whatever policy he decides to push through. him and whatever policy he decides to push through-— to push through. interesting days ahead. thank _ to push through. interesting days ahead. thank you _ to push through. interesting days ahead. thank you for _ to push through. interesting days ahead. thank you forjoining - to push through. interesting days ahead. thank you forjoining us. | we are going to take you live to the house of commons as thejustice secretary is asking questions along with other ministers and we are expecting that he will be asked about the post office scandal and mr chalkie is key to the government response, especially since the itv drama last weekend highlighted the issue of more than 700 people who got criminal convictions because of faulty software but only 93 of them have been overturned, so he is talking at the moment in the house of commons. that cohort will have been convicted
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of extreme offences and we need to get the best out of them. try and get the best out of them. thank you, mr speaker. i recently met the senior coroner for my area about concerns over health services in north wales and to discuss preventable deaths.— preventable deaths. they are discussing — preventable deaths. they are discussing a _ preventable deaths. they are discussing a number- preventable deaths. they are discussing a number of- preventable deaths. they are l discussing a number of issues, preventable deaths. they are - discussing a number of issues, and we will go back when there are questions about the post office. but why want to bring in our political correspondent, hannah miller who has been watching with this. mr chalk is key to how the government tackles this and has already met senior members of the judiciary, hasn't he? hannah, can you hear me? no, i don't think hannah can hear us at the moment, so let's dip back to the commons as we are expecting alex chalk to answer questions about the post office scandal shortly. as i was saying, more than 700 people got criminal convictions because of
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faulty software but only 93 of them have been overturned. there are a number of options that the government is looking at and our home and legal affairs correspondent has been looking at some of those including ministers may be advising the king to grant royal pardons or that parliament could pass an act declaring all of the horizon convictions be quashed and the third would be a mass appeal with a crystal—clear submission to the court of appealjudges that crystal—clear submission to the court of appeal judges that states that there is no longer a belief that there is no longer a belief that there is no longer a belief that the convictions should stand, but that, there would be a precedent for it because 39 post office cases were overturned in one go in 2021 but as our legal and home affairs correspondent has said, running such a case would not be easy and it could still take years to resolve. we have been listening to what alex chalk has been saying in the commons
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and he has already been asked about the post office scandal. let's have a listen to that. in the post office scandal. let's have a listen to that.— a listen to that. in light of the ost a listen to that. in light of the post office — a listen to that. in light of the post office scandal, _ a listen to that. in light of the post office scandal, is - a listen to that. in light of the post office scandal, is my - a listen to that. in light of the i post office scandal, is my friend would _ post office scandal, is my friend would agree, it's notjust imperative we clear the backlog as quickly _ imperative we clear the backlog as quickly as— imperative we clear the backlog as quickly as possible because there have been deaths involved, but also enable _ have been deaths involved, but also enable the _ have been deaths involved, but also enable the justice secretary next to him to— enable the justice secretary next to him to strip the post office of its powers — him to strip the post office of its powers to — him to strip the post office of its powers to independently prosecute. my honourable friend raises a good point and it's vital that the delivery of justice point and it's vital that the delivery ofjustice is not only swift but the wait for trial makes it difficult for victims and that has to be appreciated so we are doing all we can to ensure cases are heard more swiftly. we are urgently working on the detail of how to clear the names of the postmaster as quickly as possible and further details will be announced in due course and there should be no disparity between the standard of justice in private and public prosecutions and we will carefully consider the findings of the inquiry. consider the findings of the inuui . ., ., .,
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inquiry. there we go, one of the other ministers _ inquiry. there we go, one of the other ministers answering - inquiry. there we go, one of the other ministers answering a - inquiry. there we go, one of the - other ministers answering a question about the post office scandal. let me take you to the scene in the commons as there is alex chalk answering a number of questions justice questions in the commons where mps from different constituencies get a chance to question a minister, so a lot of these questions are preplanned but after the preplanned questions are asked, mps are free to ask other questions on the topics of the day which is why we believe the post office scandal will be brought up because as i mentioned, mr chalk has met seniorjudges to look at what thejudges can do met seniorjudges to look at what the judges can do and the post office minister has also said that the government was investigating ways to overturn convictions and he suggested it could include possible legislation and also said fujitsu, and that anyone else found responsible should be held accountable in terms of making any
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payment to victim compensation is. the issue is that if their convictions are not overturned, they cannot go through the compensation process so what the government is looking at is whether they can overturn all of those convictions are once and in whatever way they can and as we've been saying, one of the options is they could look at passing an act declaring that convictions be crossed. a number of former ministers have suggested that would be the way forward but there is no unanimity among different people because for example, the former attorney general says if they did that, it would amount to parliamentary interference in the judicial process and he said that each case ought to be considered on its own merits and be sent to the criminal cases review commission which in this country investigates alleged miscarriages ofjustice and said that the idea of a new law would be a short cut that might leave people dissatisfied that they
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have not really been fully exonerated, so there's a difference of opinion amongst former attorney general is anjustice secretary is about what the way forward is in this case, whether it is the option of looking at that and passing a parliamentary act to declare the horizon scandal convictions be quashed, but a lot of people say it would be an unprecedented meddling in the work ofjudges and could pave the way for politicians to do that again, so there is some concern over going down that route. the other option would be a mass appeal with the idea that the court of appeal judges look at it and say there is no longer any belief that these convictions should stand. again, there is a precedent for that. 39 post office cases were overturned in one go back in 2021, but the other issueisit one go back in 2021, but the other issue is it would not be quick. it
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would take a while to resolve and of course these cases have been going on since the 1990s when the scandal first hit all the way through to 2015 and indeed we have been hearing from one of the former sub postmasters who said the horizon victims, ian warren, one of the ones wrongly prosecuted saying they are only getting older and he said at the time he was asked how many other people were in his position and he was told he was the only one, something many of the sub postmasters and mistresses affected by the scandal have also recalled and he says he is now 75 years old and he says he is now 75 years old and not received any statement and is concerned about the victims are getting older and he asked the prime minister to be true to his word and get independent mediators in to assess the compensation levels. as i mentioned earlier, hannah miller is watching this with us and what we
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thought we would do is bring hannah in and go back to parliament if there is a question asked. hannah, what are the options that the government are looking at in this case at the moment?— case at the moment? there are essentially _ case at the moment? there are essentially a — case at the moment? there are essentially a number— case at the moment? there are essentially a number of- case at the moment? there are essentially a number of optionsj case at the moment? there are i essentially a number of options for the government. the one that they have hinted they are looking at would be to pass a piece of legislation that would receive an act of consideration. and that would then be quite... the memberfor hertford and salford, and the prosecution of cocaine would lead to prosecution of more drug dealing? it lead to prosecution of more drug dealin: ? , ~ , , dealing? it is likely there is going to be an underlying _ dealing? it is likely there is going to be an underlying offence, i dealing? it is likely there is going i to be an underlying offence, whether it is handling stolen goods, firearms matters, so this has been
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considered by way of discussions with criminaljustice partners, but if there is further matters to consider with mike honourable friend andindeed consider with mike honourable friend and indeed the honourable gentleman i am happy to have those conversations.— i am happy to have those conversations. , ., ., , , ., conversations. january is often considered _ conversations. january is often considered breakdown - conversations. january is often considered breakdown monthsj conversations. january is often i considered breakdown months and anyone taking the difficult decision this year will face not only 14 grounds for divorce but over yet to resolve financial disputes. we need focus on a range of areas, will be lord chancellor agreed to meet with me to look at the campaign? mr; me to look at the campaign? i’i honourable me to look at the campaign? ii honourable friend raises me to look at the campaign? ii1: honourable friend raises a very me to look at the campaign? ii1 honourable friend raises a very good point and she campaigned tirelessly on this issue and i'm more than happy to arrange a meeting on this issue to it we update her and other lords. to issue to it we update her and other lords. ., . .g lords. to reduce reoffending we need a stron: lords. to reduce reoffending we need a strong focused _ lords. to reduce reoffending we need a strong focused probation _ lords. to reduce reoffending we need a strong focused probation service i a strong focused probation service similar to how things work before privatisation, so why is the
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government moving in the opposite direction whether it's one hmpps programme which has triggered a formal dispute with the probation unions because it pursues probation even further into presence? ihmd even further into presence? and crateful even further into presence? and grateful to _ even further into presence? and grateful to the _ even further into presence? fific grateful to the honourable gentleman. it is nice to be answering questions from him again which i did when he was shadow secretary of state. the hmpps programme is about different parts of the system working well together to create a system that delivers the outcomes society wants to see. i would take the opportunity to pay tribute to her all the staff and the probation service, he pumped me in a tribute to her all the staff and the probation service, he pumped me tribute to her all the staff and the robation service, he --umed me tribute to iter all the staff and the protatuon semve ire pumped me would have their cases individually assessed with the court of appeal. this scale of this miscarriage of justice is enormous and there are understandably hundreds of victims who do not want to come forward because they have lost faith in the
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