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the public inquiry is trying to get to the truth of why so many sub postmasters were wrongly prosecuted. today a former investigator will be questioned — he was part of the team whose work led to a number of criminal actions. the deteriorating performance of the nhs — bbc news finds that almost all key health service targets are being missed, putting lives at risk. a grieving family's call for urgent new safety laws, after another death from a fire caused by an exploding battery in an electric bike. if we can change the law, it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that's how we feel. yorkshire cricket club approves a controversial takeover of their cash—strapped club from a consortium headed up by former chairman colin graves, who had previously denied knowledge of any racist behaviour during his time at the club. the sperm whales that organise themselves into groups like humans, complete with distinctive cultures,
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and even dialects plus, it is 70 years since this chap became the first on—screen tv weather presenter in the uk. i will look back at the archives and also bring news today of what will be a cloudy and cold day. good morning. it's thursday, the 11th of january. our main story. the public inquiry into how hundreds of former sub—postmasters, resumes today. it follows the prime minister's announcement to overturn hundreds of convictions, after the itv drama raised the profile of the scandal. benjoins us from outside the inquiry. morning to you. give us more details about the evidence that is going to be given today?— about the evidence that is going to be given today? yeah, after years of slow progress _
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be given today? yeah, after years of slow progress developments - be given today? yeah, after years of slow progress developments have i be given today? yeah, after years of. slow progress developments have been moving quickly this week. we heard that the prime minister has followed a swift new laws to overturn all the remaining convictions, and compensation for the victims of this scandal. there will be a lot of attention on what happens in that building today. this inquiry has been hearing evidence since february 2022. in the current stage it is hearing specifically about the action taken against those sub pulps masters. the day, one of the former chief investigators, one of the former investigators of the post office, will be questioned. he was part of the team whose work led to the wrongful prosecutions and convictions of so many innocent people. i haven't got that money, and i don't know where it's gone. jo hamilton, the sub—postmistress portrayed in the recent itv drama, has played a key role in the fight for justice. she told bbc breakfast her story back in march 2020. 1a times i had to plead guilty. you just wanted to scream. i'd been told that i had to look
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like i was sorry, and... ..erm, and ijust couldn't explain it. the whole thing was crazy. and two days later, a powerful committee of mps promised they'd investigate. we will be launching an inquiry next week to try and get some answers, and to try and get some justice for people like seema and jo, but hundreds of others in the same position. that was four years ago. do you remember how you felt when the announcement of the mps' inquiry was made live on breakfast? wow, it's so exciting. at least somebody somewhere is taking it seriously, you know, which, up until then nobody was really listening. that mps' inquiry led to the bigger public inquiry that resumes today. a statutory public inquiry like this one is a big deal. it has the full backing of the law to make witnesses attend and face questions, even if they don't want to. it can't punish anyone, but it can point the finger where it thinks people and organisations have failed or acted badly. and ultimately, it's about getting
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to the truth of what really happened and who was involved. and that matters, as one wronglyjailed branch manager told us on yesterday's bbc breakfast special. you're going to the inquiry, are you? lam, yes. what will you be telling the inquiry? i'm not. i'm actually watching one of my investigators, who helped send me to prison. to hear them give evidence? give evidence, yeah, tomorrow. and what are you expecting to hear? what do you want to hear? what do you need to hear? i've brought a notepad just to write down, "i don't recall", "i don't remember". i'm going to calculate just to see how many times he says it. how important is it to see the post office's own investigators be quizzed and appear before the inquiry? well, i personally found it very cathartic. i enjoyed watching them squirm a bit. and i and i think it's good for you to see them put on the rack, just like we were put on the rack in the crown court, because i know how it felt when he was round here
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at the house accusing me. mr speaker, this is one of the greatest — mr speaker, this is one of the greatest miscarriages ofjustice in our nation's history. the prime minister's now announced a new law that will overturn all remaining convictions, and the 555 postmasters who took the post office to the high court in 2019, and won, will get an upfront payment of £75,000. they have lost everything. they've lost houses, livelihoods, shops, businesses. you know, it's — to think that £75,000 is actually enough, to an average member of the public, they would think that's a lot of money. but actually, when you look at what people have lost, it's absolutely nothing, you know. i think they missed the nought off the end personally. we heard testimony from nine former sub—postmaster is on that bbc
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breakfast special. it is available on the bbc iplayer now. you will hear complicated questions and legal language. at the heart of it is a simple aim. to get to the truth of what happened. how and why the state owned post office use its power over two decades to pursue hundreds of innocent men and women, leading to many of them losing businesses, homes, in some cases even their liberty, even their lives. that is why this inquiry matters so much to all of them. then, thank you very much. later in the programme today we will be talking to a legal commentator about the process of investigation. we will also be talking to other victims of the post office scandal is that inquiry begins again today. it is seven minutes past six. charlie, in an election year, nhs, the nhs and the state of it, is a key issue. yes, some figures collated today
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about targets. very important subject. almost all key nhs targets — in a&e, cancer care, and planned proceedures — have been missed for seven years or more across the uk. analysis by bbc news found that northern ireland and wales have never met the four—hour a&e waiting time target. our health correspondent sophie hutchinson reports. for years now, right across the uk, nhs performance has been deteriorating, failing to meet key targets aimed at saving lives, and instead putting patients at risk. one such target is for cancer treatment to begin. it's meant to be a maximum of 62 days, roughly two months. but ian binns waited four months. by the time he started chemotherapy, his stage one cancer had become stage four. he told me the wait for treatment was easily the worst time in his life. i would wake up every morning wondering if i had a future, wondering that every day the cancer would be advancing within me. strangely enough, when it got
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to about three and a half months, i became almost resolved in thinking, this is too late, nothing good is going to happen to you now, which was the case. the scan showed it had spread. bbc analysis has found the vast majority of key nhs targets have been missed for seven years or more. it looked at maximum waits for cancer treatment to begin — last hit in england in 2015 — for general hospital treatment, last hit in scotland in 2014, and the four—hour a&e wait, which has never been hit in northern ireland and wales. i'd describe these targets as totemic because they are key barometer of how the nhs overall is performing. these were the markers that for the best part of 20 years have been used to measure, is the nhs doing well? we're talking about how long you wait to find out if you have cancer, how long you need to wait for life—changing operations. and the fact that they're being failed up and down the country for so long, really should be a wake up call.
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combined, the targets have been missed for more than 100 years across all four nations. governments in england, wales, scotland and northern ireland said they are investing in staff and equipment to reduce the waits. sophie hutchinson, bbc news. researchers at oxford university say the death—rate among pregnant women and new mothers rose, during the pandemic, to its highest level in nearly two decades. thrombosis, or blood clots in the veins, was the most common cause of death, with heart disease and poor mental health also common. the department of health says "last year, nhs england published a three—year plan to make maternity and neonatal care safer and more equitable". the us secretary of state, antony blinken, says the white house supports "tangible steps" towards the creation of a palestinian state — but it must exist alongside israel. mr blinken said more needed to be done to protect civilians. it comes as the world health organization has appealed to israel to allow more aid into the gaza strip — saying it's become almost impossible to reach those in need.
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the un security council has called for an immediate end to attacks on ships in the red sea by iran—backed houthi rebels in yemen. it comes after a british warship, the hms diamond, shot down seven drones in the region. the un resolution endorsed the right of member states to defend their vessels. ecuador�*s president says a wave of deadly attacks has tipped the country into a state of war with criminal gangs. the armed forces have arrested more than 300 suspected gang members. masked gunmen stormed a public tv studio during a live broadcast on tuesday and bombs have been detonated across ecuador. our correspondent will grant sent this report. viewers in ecuador watched in disbelief as masked and armed gang members entered a state tv channel and held staff hostage, all of it televised live. translation: they shot one of our cameramen i in the leg, broke the arm
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of another one. they were shooting bullets inside the studio. the police were called and came in minutes. the gang was soon arrested and the hostages released. but the tv station ambush was just part of the descent into chaos. panic as gunmen stormed guayaquil university. explosions around the country. schools and businesses shut down. and widespread rioting inside ecuador�*s prisons. in response, president daniel noboa called a state of emergency and imposed a curfew. by decree he designated 22 gangs terrorist organisations and ordered the military to, as he put it, neutralise them. president noboa says that ecuador is now engaged in an internal armed conflict. but while this explosion of gang violence may have caught the nation off guard, in truth, the storm, which has turned ecuadorfrom one of the safest nations in latin america to one of the most violent,
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has been brewing for years. an iron fist on crime has been used here before, but it did little to break the gangs�* stranglehold on the andean nation or slow its slide towards bloodshed. will grant, bbc news, guayaquil. triple—amputee mark ormrod says his prosthetic legs have been returned to him, after they were stolen from his car. the former royal marine broke the record for the fastest man to swim a kilometre using only one arm in 2022. he said a thief smashed his car window and stole several bags on tuesday night. thankfully, all of his lost items — including his prosthetics — were returned after someone found them in an alleyway. researchers in canada say they've discovered that sperm whales live in human—like clans, with distinctive cultures, and even dialects. the scientists used underwater microphones and drones, to examine the sounds and behaviour of the animals, as jon donnison explains. the clicks and clacks
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of a sperm whale. and as you might expect from the creature with the biggest brain on the planet, their chit chat has more to it than meets the ear. this latest research, published in the royal society open science journal, found there are at least seven separate clans of sperm whales in the pacific ocean, each with its own distinct culture and vocal dialect. well, the sperm whale sounds very simple. their patterns of clicks are a bit like morse code. the two clans we discovered this on, one sounds, click, click, click, click. and the other sounds, click, click, click... ..click. the study also showed the whales use their distinct dialects to communicate and make democratic, consensual decisions about where to go. one example saw them take an hour and a half to decide whether or not to make a 90 degree turn,
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in what the researchers called a slow and messy process. jon donnison, bbc news. remarkable picture. it is 1a minutes past six. what year are we in? that's one of those questions, isn't it?! i don't know. 2024. it?! i don't know. 202a. take a step back 70 years with matt. what are you saying?! you are in grey colours. there is going to be a history lesson with you today, isn't there? there will be in about half an hour. 70 years ago the first ever on—air weather forecast. what was it like? how did it feel? it was scary! i know i don't look a day over 69. good morning! out there today it is cold. maybe not as cold as it has
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beenin cold. maybe not as cold as it has been in recent days for some of you. a lot more cloud. fewer showers compared to yesterday. most of you will be dry. where the coldest parts are this morning you will see some sunshine. counties coldest of all right now. chilly on the scottish mountains. six to 7 degrees in northern ireland. a fairly grey and cloudy start to your thursday. sunniest of all down towards the southern counties. the cloud in the south—west will clear for a time. with the wind coming from a north—easterly direction we will poach more cloud towards the midlands and wales later. sunshine in the channel islands, the south—west and south wales. still some sunshine in western scotland. winds lighter. colder down the east coast. temperatures closer to where we should be for this date in january. as we go into tonight, we
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are going to start to see that cloud continue to push towards the south—west and south—western parts of wales. not as cold in southern areas tonight. clearer skies for northern ireland and scotland will lead to dense patches of fog through the central belt and northern ireland. it is here where it will be coldest of all into tomorrow morning. temperatures of —8 or —9. tomorrow, another dry and chilly day. thank you, madam. look forward to the history lesson later. 16 minutes past six. let's take a look at some of today's front pages. most of them focus on the post office scandal, with the daily mail saying that hundreds of sub—postmasters face a "new battle" to get compensation — despite the move to overturn convictions and clear their names. the mirror leads on alan bates, the former sub—postmaster who led the campaign for justice. he says the proposed compensation of 75—thousand pounds does not make up for what they have suffered.
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the times reports on a story we reported on breakfast yesterday — the major attack by houthi rebels on ships in the red sea. the image is taken from the bridge of the hms diamond, as it came under fire from drones and missiles. some of the papers are also carrying pictures of princess anne today, as she starts a tour of sri lanka to mark 75 years of diplomatic relations with the uk. this image shows her arrival near the capital city, colombo. a variety of pictures. this is the start of a tour of sri lanka marking 75 years of diplomatic relations. these are the arrival pictures near the capital city colombo. there were some other pictures seeing her coming down, as she arrived, carrying her own bags. that attracted some attention. i think the daily mail said, that it is a working royal. what have you seen on the insights? used car is what i have got. a car that has just gone the market which has, on the plus side, it is only got a 255 miles on the clock. it is
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three years old. it has barely been used. this is a good buy for someone. it has only had one owner. i never thought of you as a used car salesman board i am seeing it now. it is working so far. there is a climber coming up. this is a bugatti. it is a supersport 300 plus. why is it called 300 plus, i hear you ask? because it can only do, i don't know. it has —— it is the only road car ever made that can go at 300 mph plus. this one is going to auction and they reckon it is going to be £4.3 million. what is the clanger? well, that's the price. ok, that the price. 4.3 million. very low mileage.
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bargain. it is 90 minutes past six. "19. the family of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept, say they don't want her death to be in vain. sofia duarte, who died last year, would have been celebrating her 22nd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition, backed by london fire brigade, which calls for tighter regulations for electric bikes and batteries — as tim muffett reports. she's my sunshine. she's the best for me. she enjoy her free time. and it's very difficult to live without her. sophia was staying at her boyfriend's flat in london. on new year's day last year, a bike, that had been converted into an e—bike, caught fire in the flat hallway. she died one metre near the door. i think it's a dream.
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and i think she stay here. and when i wake up, she's not here. i'm missing so much. she was lovely. she just loved life so, so much. she kept saying to her mum, i'll have time to sleep when i die. make sure that her name still carry on. sophia was 21 when she died. today would have been her 23rd birthday. her mum maria, and friend alda, set up a petition last month, calling for urgent action from the government to implement regulations on e—bikes and e—scooters, and the batteries and chargers sold with them. if we can change the law, it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that's how we feel. every person that dies because of a bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time. e—scooters and e—bikes can be an environmentally friendly, safe way of getting about.
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they're powered by lithium ion batteries, which contain a large amount of energy in a small space. but if a cell in a faulty battery heats up uncontrollably, this can happen — thermal runaway, demonstrated here in a lab. the owner of this electric bike was lucky to escape unharmed. in cambridge, last summer, gemma germeney and her children, lilly and oliver died in a fire caused by a faulty e—bike battery. her partner, scott, was badly burned, but managed to escape the blaze. i screamed, "gemma, the kids, pass me the kids". and i heard a voice from her saying, "i can't get out." as well as tougher enforcement of quality control and safety standards, the petition is also calling for clearer guidance on safe handling and potential dangers.
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this could be preventable. if people knew the dangers, they wouldn't leave the bike at the entrance, blocking the exit so people can't get out. that's exactly what happened with sofia. last year in london, the number of fires involving e—bikes and e—scooters went up by 60% compared to the year before. there was a fire on average every two days. have you been surprised by how many people have signed this petition? yeah, very. almost 32,000 in five and a half weeks. 100,000 people. it's what is required to be taking into the parliament. do something. prevent his death. make sure that she didn't die in vain. if you have got questions about the risks associated with electric bikes
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or scooters, we are going to be speaking later to the assistant commissioner for fire safety from london fire brigade headquarters. he will give us examples of other things that have happened in the past. whenever we do this story, a lot of people say images of those moments, they really are scary. you always ask the question, what is safer? what should i do? when we talk about this, when you see those pictures, people automatically have those batteries, saying, this is not going in the doorway. if you have a garage or outdoor space, in the doorway. if you have a garage or outdoorspace, make in the doorway. if you have a garage or outdoor space, make sure you have an exit free in your property. a little later on as well, we have obviously had a few floods across the uk from various rainfall, which has dried up for the moment, but we are going to be talking about how people are being scammed by people offering to make repairs, flooded
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properties, and we will offer advice on how to advise that. —— avoid that. even though we have seen the rainfall, now it is much drier, matt will keep us up—to—date. he will also give us a history lesson. it is going to be a dull and wet start for the day with quite a lot of rain. . , ., ., a, come rain or shine, for the last 70 years weather presenters have given us the forecast on the bbc. matt's with us in the studio this morning, looking back at how things have changed, and of course, he'll have today's weather for you as well. i think sticky labels were the way forward and we should revert to them. we will put that to matt as well, whether that would work. we even have had royal forecasters. round the back he has got a screen with some sticky bits. yes, he has got an easel and is ready to do his diy. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill.
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as you've been hearing, london fire brigade is backing a petition calling for urgent action from the government to implement regulations on e—bikes, e—scooters. the family of 21—year—old londoner sofia duarte who lost her life in a fatal fire just over a year ago in southwark are calling on all londoners to sign the petition on what would have been sofia's birthday. london fire bridgade say there was a e—bike fire every two days last year. a triple—amputee and gold—medal winning athlete who also took part in the invictus games says his prosthetic legs have been stolen from his car in west london. mark ormrod posted on social media that his car was parked at a premier inn in chiswick when the incident happened and that security cameras did not capture the incident. the premier inn says it is looking into what happened. a north london hospital could have its mortuary expanded to tackle a growing need for storage. brent mortuary, at northwick park hospital, is running out of space due to more deaths
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being investigated and increases in the length of stay for deceased people. in 2021, a human tissue authority audit found the site no longer met its requirement for "sufficient storage". a london busker is hoping to play his guitar outside every london underground station to raise money for charity. singer dan tredget hopes to be the first person in history to busk at all 272 stations, whilst raising money for the homeless charity glassdoor. it's been such a surprising kind of experience. you just never know what you're going to get and you never know really what to expect from each station. initially, i thought going into zone 1 would be the best, like going to places like leicester square. but in the end, it's places in the outer zones that have been the most fun and the most generous.
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let's take a look at the tubes now. there's minor delays on the circle and district lines — but otherwise there's a good service on the rest of the network. that takes us to the weather, and we're having a few issues with kate's forcast — but i can tell you that it's going to be a bright start to the day with cloud moving in from the north this afternoon. it's expected to remain dry with a north—easterly breeze through—out the day bring with it a top temperature of six degrees. tonight will be cloudy and largely dry — although there is the slight risk of some patchy light rain or drizzle. there will be a noticeable north—easterly breeze tonight keeping the temperture around six degrees. and briefly looking ahead to tomorrow — it is expected to be mainly dry with a few brighter spells later. and that noticeable cold north—easterly breeze is set to hang around. that's it from me —
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there's more on the bbc news app and there will be regular bulletins on bbc radio london across the morning, i'll be back in half an hour but for now let's cross back to charlie and naga. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. throughout this week, we've been hearing from many of the sub—postmasters who were wrongly prosecuted by the post office because of a faulty it system. among them is hashmukh shingadia. his post office, in bucklebury in berkshire, was used by the princess of wales when she was growing up nearby and he even got an invitation to her wedding. but his life was torn apart after he was prosecuted, as breakfast�*sjohn maguire reports. spend any time in hasmukh shingadia's village shop in berkshire, and like hundreds of other former postmasters up and down the uk, you understand why they're called a pillar of the community.
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special treat after first day back. in common with those hundreds, ne was also accused of theft and hounded by the post office after accounting failures with the malfunctioning horizon computer system. they were dark days. it was hard. really, really ha rd. we went through some really bad times. and at times, as i said, i had suicidal thoughts. what kept you going? what kept you fighting? fighting was to put myself right at some point and also for the sake of my family. i couldn't let them down. it wasn't their fault. so why should i do something which would hurt them any further? the princess of wales was brought up here. hash and his wife were invited to william and kate's wedding. herfamily were among those who supported him. others, though, turned their backs. a lot of people shunned, not only the community, but also members of my own family as well.
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but luckily, there were other people who stood by me, especially a very good friend of mine who went around to get some petitions signed, which were then presented to the court at the time of my conviction. and the judge was impressed. he said, "i'd never seen anything likse like this before" and said it would be a crime to send me to prison. hash had been a magistrate but was in the dock himself, accused of stealing money from the post office. he was given a suspended sentence and ordered to do almost 200 hours of community service. that conviction was overturned nine years later. i've declared my cash, i've declared my stock. i've done it all three times and i still can't get it to balance. now, thanks to the phenomenal success of itv�*s drama about the scandal, he welcomes the prime minister's pledge to exonerate the others falsely accused and convicted. overjoyed for not only for myself, but for the other subpostmasters
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who've been waiting for so long to have their conviction overturned. and at last they'll be able to hold their heads up high and able to look at society and say, listen, here we are. it's now been quashed. the village shop is, of course, no longer a post office and his customers are fully aware of what he's been through. we had a party when when the conviction was overturned, there was a big party and celebration. here in the shop. so yeah, it's been really, really awful for all involved. misfortune for them. but i mean, hopefully- the government will sort out and get their money back. yeah, but what's happened to them in the past, - it's just totally disgusting. so now if you re—enter everything, it'll balance. ok, this is so helpful. thank you. don't go away. stay with me till i've done it. apologies, exoneration, compensation, although decades late, are all welcome.
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but as the itv drama highlights, hash says what remains is the search for properjustice and ultimately the truth. john maguire, bbc news, berkshire. we're joined now by jason coyne, an it expert who found issues with the horizon system more than two decades ago. morning, how are you? intrigued as to how you — morning, how are you? intrigued as to how you could _ morning, how are you? intrigued as to how you could investigate - morning, how are you? intrigued as to how you could investigate the - morning, how are you? intrigued as to how you could investigate the it| to how you could investigate the it system and the process. he became involved in 2003, just over 20 years ago. what would you have been presented with in terms of evidence? we have heard from sub—postmasters who said, we did the accounts, we saw what we put in manually, we saw what the computer came up with, the system came up with, presented it and it didn't tally so yourjob then was to look at? and it didn't tally so your 'ob then was to look at?* and it didn't tally so your 'ob then was to look at? typically you would start by looking _ was to look at? typically you would start by looking at _ was to look at? typically you would start by looking at any _ was to look at? typically you would start by looking at any informationl start by looking at any information regarding the logs around transactions. so most systems will
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have background information that will show you what was going on when transactions were going to the system. but in this case, the post office had lost or purged the information from 2000. this office had lost or purged the information from 2000. this was in clevele s? information from 2000. this was in clevelevs? yes. — information from 2000. this was in cleveleys? yes, in _ information from 2000. this was in cleveleys? yes, in 2003, _ information from 2000. this was in cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it- information from 2000. this was in cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was - cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was auoin to cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was going to trial— cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was going to trial but _ cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was going to trial but it _ cleveleys? yes, in 2003, it was going to trial but it involves - going to trial but it involves transaction from the year 2000. because there were no logs, the best i could get hold of was records of her calling the post office and fujitsu helpline. just her calling the post office and fujitsu helpline.— fujitsu helpline. just her complaints, _ fujitsu helpline. just her complaints, no - fujitsu helpline. just her complaints, no technicalj fujitsu helpline. just her - complaints, no technical logs? fujitsu helpline. just her _ complaints, no technical logs? not rearardin complaints, no technical logs? iirrt regarding the particular transactions which i always thought was quite curious, how this case would work out if there were no logs anyway. there was a witness statement from one of the post
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office branch managers and a witness statement from one of the post of his investigators, but there was quite a bland statement that they looked at it and there were no problems with the horizon system. when i managed to secure 91 call logs that cleveleys had made to the post office help desk, 61 of them were very clearly defects within the system either with the hardware, the software of the communications. so i sentin software of the communications. so i sent in my report that the witness statement from the branch manager was clearly incorrect because on the face of it there were lots of problems with the system. and i also commented on the quality of the post office and fujitsu help desk which would seeminglyjust office and fujitsu help desk which would seemingly just tell sub—postmasters to reboot their systems so it is back up and running
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and nobody seemed to look into the impact on whether that would cause a loss of a transaction. can impact on whether that would cause a loss of a transaction.— loss of a transaction. can i ask ou, i loss of a transaction. can i ask you. i know — loss of a transaction. can i ask you. i know it— loss of a transaction. can i ask you, i know it was _ loss of a transaction. can i ask you, i know it was a _ loss of a transaction. can i ask you, i know it was a detailed l loss of a transaction. can i ask. you, i know it was a detailed and long winded investigation you were doing, did you have a moment, i don't know what stage of the process when you sat back on your desk or every and went, this is obvious? was there a moment where you said, i can see it, it's clear?— see it, it's clear? what was always obvious to — see it, it's clear? what was always obvious to me. — see it, it's clear? what was always obvious to me, because _ see it, it's clear? what was always obvious to me, because i - see it, it's clear? what was always obvious to me, because i have - see it, it's clear? what was always - obvious to me, because i have worked in computer systems for all of my life, 30 years essentially, is post office had adopted a position that there is nothing, there are no bugs in the horizon system. even before looking at it i knew that that could not be the case because every computer system has bugs, it'sjust how you deal with the impact of those bugs and how you investigate what happens, so a banking system or a system that relates to
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transactions between bank —— about branch accounts, whether the bugs have an impact on them. so what we really needed to do was look at the bugs and then look at the investigation process behind it. what was clear, if it wasn't accepted that there were bugs in the first place and their investigation going on, that was the eureka moment. . going on, that was the eureka moment-— going on, that was the eureka moment. . ., , ., ., moment. the evidence that you found, what ou moment. the evidence that you found, what you knew — moment. the evidence that you found, what you knew then, _ moment. the evidence that you found, what you knew then, did _ moment. the evidence that you found, what you knew then, did not _ moment. the evidence that you found, what you knew then, did not enter- what you knew then, did not enter the public domain. h0. what you knew then, did not enter the public domain.— the public domain. no, in 2003 it was cleveleys _ the public domain. no, in 2003 it was cleveleys but _ the public domain. no, in 2003 it was cleveleys but in _ the public domain. no, in 2003 it was cleveleys but in 2016! - the public domain. no, in 2003 it was cleveleys but in 2016! was i was cleveleys but in 2016! was instructed by alan bates�*s legal team that was a more detailed investigation running over four years, we had a lot more information and we identified very specific losses in postmaster account and we got the whole chain of elements in that investigation. i
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got the whole chain of elements in that investigation.— that investigation. i know there is an enormous _ that investigation. i know there is an enormous amount _ that investigation. i know there is an enormous amount of - that investigation. i know there is an enormous amount of material| that investigation. i know there is i an enormous amount of material to that investigation. i know there is - an enormous amount of material to go through. are you optimistic now about the detail, and answers, to some of the things that you think you saw early on, that we will have answers to what happened? in terms of the technical? i’m answers to what happened? in terms of the technical?— of the technical? i'm optimistic now with all of the _ of the technical? i'm optimistic now with all of the press _ of the technical? i'm optimistic now with all of the press attention - of the technical? i'm optimistic now with all of the press attention and l with all of the press attention and the government attention that was on it, but certainly throughout the bates litigation, it was like pulling teeth trying to get evidence and documents from post office. if pulling teeth trying to get evidence and documents from post office. iii and documents from post office. if i can ask you one other thing, if you had something yourself... in can ask you one other thing, if you had something yourself. . .- had something yourself... in 2003 when i submitted _ had something yourself... in 2003 when i submitted the _ had something yourself... in 2003 when i submitted the report - had something yourself... in 2003 when i submitted the report on - had something yourself... in 2003| when i submitted the report on the cleveleys matter, evidence that has been played out in the public inquiryjust last year been played out in the public inquiry just last year suggests that there was a process within fujitsu
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and post office to attempt to discredit the evidence i presented at cleveleys. there was a lot of talk about bias and my evidence was very one—sided. essentially i was instructed by the post office and cleveleys jointly. instructed by the post office and cleve leys jointly. _ instructed by the post office and cleve leys jointly. — instructed by the post office and cleve leys jointly. cleveleys “ointly. they didn't like what ou cleveleys jointly. they didn't like what you had _ cleveleys jointly. they didn't like what you had found. _ cleveleys jointly. they didn't like what you had found. they - cleveleys jointly. they didn't like what you had found. they didn't. cleveleys jointly. they didn't like - what you had found. they didn't. and our what you had found. they didn't. and your credibility _ what you had found. they didn't. and your credibility was _ what you had found. they didn't. and your credibility was challenged. - your credibility was challenged. yes. ., ~ your credibility was challenged. yes. . ,, , ., your credibility was challenged. yes. . ,, ., .«r , your credibility was challenged. yes. . ~' ., . ~' , ., yes. thank you for taking us through that. as we've been hearing, prime minister rishi sunak has been outlining steps the government is taking to overturn wrongful convictions of post office workers in england and wales. scotland has a separate legal system — and first minister humza yousaf explained how the issue will be addressed there. i've written to the prime minister today to say that we are willing to work with the uk government in order to ensure any pardon is on a uk wide basis. and if the justice secretary will write to her counterpart, in the uk government, to take forward those discussions, so those campaigners, those that have been affected here in scotland,
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they can be absolutely assured that they too will be pardoned. we're joined now by legal expert, joshua rosenberg. good morning, joshua. we werejust talking led to jason who is a forensic expert and listening to how that played out, he was employed by the post office, by the legal firm, to look through and if they didn't like what they found, that was almost discredited. what have you made of what you heard in terms of the process, the investigation? it’s the process, the investigation? it�*s appalling. the whole system whereby the post office not only investigated but prosecuted people for alleged theft was clearly unsatisfactory, it's fair to say the post office abandon that in 2015. the way in which they marked their own homework, they brought cases to court and so on, is something that clearly they accept could no longer continue once these problems were made clear.
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continue once these problems were made clear-— made clear. now that this overturning, _ made clear. now that this overturning, the - made clear. now that this i overturning, the exoneration made clear. now that this - overturning, the exoneration by the government has been announced of those who were convicted, there are some legal issues that have been grappled with an almost torturous to try and figure out. can you explain why there could be potentially a clash between what the government is doing and thejudiciary? i clash between what the government is doing and the judiciary?— doing and the 'udiciary? i don't think the doing and the judiciary? i don't think the judiciary _ doing and the judiciary? i don't think the judiciary are - doing and the judiciary? i don't think the judiciary are too - doing and the judiciary? i don't i think the judiciary are too worried because if parliament passes legislation, thejudges because if parliament passes legislation, the judges will simply implement it. but a lot of lawyers and judges are lawyers as well are concerned because it is notjust the innocent who will be cleared, some guilty people will be among them. that is frankly acknowledged by the government. kevin hollinrake, the post office minister, said the government faced a dilemma. you either allow many people to carry an unjustified slur of conviction he said yesterday, or you accept that an unknown number of people who have
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genuinely stolen from the post office will be exonerated and maybe even compensated. hour office will be exonerated and maybe even compensated.— office will be exonerated and maybe even compensated. how does that sit? there is a phrase. _ even compensated. how does that sit? there is a phrase, i'm _ even compensated. how does that sit? there is a phrase, i'm trying _ even compensated. how does that sit? there is a phrase, i'm trying to - there is a phrase, i'm trying to remember who said this, better that there are no innocent people found guilty rather than a few guilty let off. it guilty rather than a few guilty let off. , , ., , off. it is, better that ten guilty ersons off. it is, better that ten guilty persons escape _ off. it is, better that ten guilty persons escape that _ off. it is, better that ten guilty persons escape that one - off. it is, better that ten guilty i persons escape that one innocent persons escape that one innocent person suffer. that was william blackstone a long time ago. these guilty people will not only not suffer but some of them will get compensation. they have got to say that they never actually stole any money from the post office but if they were properly convicted of a crime of dishonesty, will they now stop or will they say, i didn't do it and get compensation even though they were rightly convicted? only a
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few cases but there is no doubt there are some, a third of the claims that were made to the criminal cases review commission which reviews suspected miscarriages ofjustice up to last september were rejected on the basis that these were not appropriate cases to be referred to the court of appeal. in referred to the court of appeal. in terms of time, there is an implication that most of these cases, the compensation, is expected to be paid out by the end of this year. does that sound realistic? with this legal framework, this change, does that seem realistic to you? i change, does that seem realistic to ou? ~' ., , ~' you? i think it does. i think the ruestion you? i think it does. i think the question is— you? i think it does. i think the question is whether _ you? i think it does. i think the question is whether people i you? i think it does. i think the question is whether people are j question is whether people are prepared to accept the £600,000 on offerfor people wrongly prepared to accept the £600,000 on offer for people wrongly convicted or whether they want to argue that it should be more. if they take the money on offer it will be quicker. the legislation will take a few weeks to draft. it isn't easy to deal with it. how do you decide who it covers? you could say everybody who was convicted who worked for the
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post office since the horizon system was introduced, but what about individuals, may be ministers would have to sign up a list of people. it is quite complicated to work out how to do this. there is no doubt that although there are some misgivings expressed by some lawyer mps, this is going to be approved by parliament and will become law. always good to talk to you, thank you joshua rosenberg. we talked about the legal and the technical and then there is the human side, that brings it home. we were be speaking to a number of sub—postmasters and mistresses who have been through this this morning. if you missed yesterday's special breakfast programme on the scandal... you can rewatch nine former sub—postmasters telling us their stories, that's available on the bbc iplayer. it's been 70 years since the first weather forecast
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was broadcast on the bbc. usually we go to that for a longer look at the weather, a few days ahead instead ofjust tomorrow. but habits change, technology moves on. in the 70 years since the first broadcast. in the 70 years since the first broadcast-— in the 70 years since the first broadcast. , , ., , , ., , in the 70 years since the first broadcast. , ,., , , ., , ., broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather — broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather across _ broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather across the _ broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather across the uk. - broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather across the uk. it - broadcast. everybody is an expert on the weather across the uk. it is i the weather across the uk. it is that they should's favourite conversation but it was 70 years before we first heard the first presenter on air. meteorologist george cowling stepped in front of the camera in 1954 and used a hand—drawn map to explain the forecast. yes, technology completely different, they had chalk and charcoal, isobars and weather fronts, the forecast was completely different today. i have got the forecast but first this. earlier on today, apparently a woman
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rang the bbc and said she heard that there was a hurricane on the way. well, if you're watching, don't worry, there isn't. thank you, mr fish. but i think we do have that forecast goes. the technology and the presenting style behind the forecast has changed a lot since those days, but even more so compared to when bbc tv weather forecast began on air. 70 years ago. george cowling was the first meteorologist to step in front of the camera and along with tom clifton, who he shared presenting duties with, brought a slightly more informal approach to the forecast. we'd been briefed to try to be a bit human, and i mentioned that tomorrow was going to be a good day for hanging out the washing, and this was something that had never been said before. and the press really took this up and thought that was a jolly good thing. and back then, the forecast came courtesy of two charts and a lot of charcoal. it wasn't until 1974 before the first female weather forecaster, barbara edwards, graced the air. if you look on the chart, you'll see there's outbreaks of rain,
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sleet... the following year those instantly recognisable weather symbols that we all love were introduced, but they didn't always behave themselves. but then, like many presenters, they became iconic and some presenters went onto much bigger things. maybe a few drier interludes over dumfries house in ayrshire. aha, there'll be snow. it was in 1985 when computers and green screen technology changed the landscape of weather forecasts on the bbc forever. and this is the bbc weather centre, where most of what you see on air is produced. on air today though is sarah and she's going to tell us a bit more of what goes on. so, sarah, what are you up to? well, a lot of things all at once. we're constantly watching the weather here. so i'm looking at the radar to see where it's raining or snowing, watching the satellite to see where the cloud is. and i'm looking at all the computer generated forecasts spat out of supercomputers. so we take all of that information and i'm just building my graphics at the moment.
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so i think a lot of people don't realise that us presenters actually build our own graphics as well. we make chunks to show anything from temperature, any warnings that are out there, we choose a relevant picture for the day as well. and we sew all these chunks together into this seamless weather show that you see behind us in the studios. and of course, we're notjust confined to tv studios these days. we can broadcast from anywhere in the world on just the strength of a mobile phone chasing the weather story wherever it's happening, sometimes some more fun than others. it will feel more like below freezing for many parts, especially so in the north west of scotland. i can tell you it's freezing here now. but it's notjust the technology that's changing how we broadcast. it's changing how we forecast too. a four day forecast now is more accurate than a one day forecast was 30 years ago. today, for the first time ever in the uk, somewhere in eastern england could hit 40 celsius plus. now more than ever, we are wanting someone to give us a greater understanding of the reasons behind
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some of the weather extremes we're experiencing. and it's ourjob to do that while still letting you know if it's a good day to hang the washing out. are you going to do the sticky thing now, this ticketing? zf} are you going to do the sticky thing now, this ticketing?— now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month _ now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month i _ now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month i walked _ now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month i walked into - now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month i walked into the i now, this ticketing? 20 years ago this month i walked into the bbcl this month i walked into the bbc weather centre, i mist out on the weather centre, i mist out on the weather symbols, so no expense spared, not quite magnetic but here we go. here is yourforecast spared, not quite magnetic but here we go. here is your forecast using the power of symbols. showers across eastern areas, one 01’ showers across eastern areas, one or two today but most of those will fade away. most of you will have a dry day. sunniest towards the south—west of the country, but for most of us it will be a cloudy day. this is harder than it looks. with the odd glamour of sunshine. share this is harder than it looks. with the odd glamour of sunshine. are you 'ust the odd glamour of sunshine. are you just slapping — the odd glamour of sunshine. are you just slapping them — the odd glamour of sunshine. are you just slapping them on _ the odd glamour of sunshine. are you just slapping them on anywhere? i the odd glamour of sunshine. are you just slapping them on anywhere? no, j just slapping them on anywhere? no, it's a ve just slapping them on anywhere? iifr, it's a very precise... just slapping them on anywhere? no,
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it's a very precise... science! - it's a very precise... science! there you — it's a very precise... science! there you go- _ it's a very precise. .. science! there you go. shall- it's a very precise... science! there you go. shall we i it's a very precise... science! there you go. shall we get i it's a very precise... science! | there you go. shall we get on it's a very precise... science! i there you go. shall we get on with the real forecast? _ there you go. shall we get on with the real forecast? and _ there you go. shall we get on with the real forecast? and see - there you go. shall we get on with the real forecast? and see what i there you go. shall we get on with the real forecast? and see what is| the real forecast? and see what is happening across the country. we start with a lovely picture of the sunrise, some of you will see this today, where you have got the sunrise it is going to be a cold start. temperatures at the moment in south—east england, where scotland and east anglia are well below freezing. but in northern ireland 7 degrees. 20 of cloud there. sunniest weather frost is, south and western scotland. overall cloud pushing through, sunny in the southwest and western parts of scotland, there is a lot more detail than we had on the sticky charts. it will be a lighter wind than yesterday, not as much bite. the easiest in the eastern
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coast. temperatures look like what they should be but it will feel like four or five they should be but it will feel like four orfive in they should be but it will feel like four or five in the they should be but it will feel like four orfive in the north sea they should be but it will feel like four or five in the north sea coast. tonight clear skies in the south—west but the club will push in, not as cold night. some dense patches of fog to take us into friday morning in northern ireland and scotland, and a cold start, —8, in a few spots as we start. much of england and wales away from the hills should be frost free tomorrow morning. a much milder start across east anglia. we are seeing some changes, high pressure keeping things dry is a further south and more of a westerly wind which means tomorrow brighterfor more of a westerly wind which means tomorrow brighter for scotland and northern ireland but a few lingering fog patches. where they stick, temperatures will struggle to get above freezing. england and wales, cloudy, a little bit of sunshine but
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sunniest will be eastern scotland. evenif sunniest will be eastern scotland. even if it feels chilly, seven or eight across the south. patchy rain in the north—west will sink into scotland and northern ireland for saturday, and the north breeze picking up but to the south and east of england and southern wales, it will be a sunny day on saturday but temperatures starting to drop a little bit after a cold start. frost first thing and temperatures around five or 6 degrees during the afternoon. it gets colder as we see out the weekend, saturday night cloud and patchy rain working south across the country introducing more of a northerly air flow to what we will see on the next few days. sunday, more cloud, patchy drizzle across southern areas before things brighten up later, a few showers around but those turning increasingly to snow across the north and east of scotland, temperatures dropping two or three degrees in the afternoon and a noticeable wind—chill. and there is an even greater chance of some more
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you. —— rather than two legs. as for this year, there is a second leg to come in two weeks' time, on the banks of the thames and liverpool have a slender lead over fulham to give them the edge thanks to their super subs. fulham, who came into this match, with a dreadful recent run, away from home, actually took the lead in the first half, thanks to the wizardry of willian after 20 minutes. liverpool were being frustrated by fulham who more than held their own, until curtis jones equalised thanks to a deflection and then just minutes later, it was the substitutes, nunez to gakpo, for the winner, ahead of the second leg, but the boss isn't counting any chickens as yet. ididn't i didn't expect the result, i can't say we can book the hotel. fulham, marco was here before me, they will know they are still in. they will cause us even more problems. nottingham forest defender, harry toffolo, has told the bbc that he thought his career
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was going to end last year, when he was charged by the fa for betting rule breaches. he's now 28, and the bets were placed, long before he joined forest. he was given a suspended five—month ban in september for 375 breaches of betting rules and the resulting public fall out took an immense toll on his mental health, and now he wants to use this to help others. i have nothing to lose. i'm going to go and fight for the fans and my family, six months ago if you would have said you are going to have a chat with this people about this subject i would have burst into tears. i thought it wasn't possible. to be able to sit here now and speak so openly and confidently, to be an opacity for the football club and be so forthcoming in the community to help other people, for me that gives me the ultimate joy and i feel complete. there's a row brewing around yorkshire cricket club again by a consortium headed up by the former chairman
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colin graves. the 75—year—old was chair of yorkshire from 2012 until 2015 — part of the period that later saw the club fined for failing to address the systemic use of racist language. graves has previously denied knowledge of any racist behaviour during his time at the club. the former player turned whistle—blower azeem rafiq, has called on yorkshire's sponsors to oppose graves' return, and posted a message on social media which said "no longer my club" with a broken heart emoji. we are just three days away from the first tennis grand slam of the year, and in the last few hours, the draw has been made for the first round of the australian open. emma raducanoo makes her return to a major event against american shelby rogers. raducanu has had an eight—month injury lay—off, after having wrist and ankle surgery last may. she could face british number one katie boulter in the third round. five—time finalist, andy murray, plays the 30th seed tomas martin etcheverry. murray was the only british player to land a seeded player in the draw.
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it all starts on sunday australian time. ., ~' ,, thousands of homes were flooded last week, as storm henk swept across the uk. we have seen some of the damage that has been caused. you we have seen some of the damage that has been caused.— has been caused. you can imagine the feelin: has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when — has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when your— has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when your home _ has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when your home is _ has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when your home is an - has been caused. you can imagine the feeling when your home is an estate l feeling when your home is an estate and you want it fixed as soon as possible so you get in touch with the insurance and all the paperwork but now rogue traders are seeing an opportunity. we are going to be looking at this. people come round, they say, we can fix that, fix the tiles on your roof, and reports of work being offered to be done and it hasn't been done. get in touch
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all are a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill. the family of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept, say they don't want her death to be in vain. sofia duarte, who died last year, would have been celebrating her 23rd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition organised by her friend and family, which is backed by london fire brigade, calling for tighter regulations for electric bikes and their batteries. it could be preventable. if we can change the law it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that is how we feel. every person that dies because of an e—bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time.
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a triple—amputee and gold medal—winning athlete, who also took part in the invictus games, says his prosthetic legs have been stolen from his car in west london. mark ormrod posted on social media that his car was parked at a premier inn in chiswick when the incident happened. the premier inn says it is looking into what happened. a london busker is hoping to play his guitar outside every london underground station to raise money for charity. singer dan tredget hopes to be the first person in history to busk at all 272 stations, whilst raising money for the homeless charity glassdoor. it's been such a surprising kind of experience. you just never know what you're going to get and you never know really what to expect
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from each station. initially, i thought going into zone 1 would be the best, like, going to places like leicester square. but in the end, it's places in the outer zones that have been the most fun and the most generous. let's take a look at the tubes now. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. another cold start with temperatures widely down below zero. it is dry though, it is sunny, but we will see more cloud sinking south through the afternoon. clear skies last night, therefore the sunshine first thing. high pressure still in charge, so it is dry. some slightly less cold air bringing in some moisture. so turning cloudy through the day. temperatures somewhere between four and six celsius. we have still got the north—easterly breeze, so temperatures likely to feel colder. overnight we will hang onto this cloud. again, staying dry. the wind lighter, but the temperature as a result of the cloud will not drop so low, between three to five celsius,
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the minimum temperature. staying in single figures. tomorrow we hang onto the cloud through friday. again, largely dry, one or two brighter spells potentially. could get a spot of drizzle in the cloud, but, like i said, should stay largely dry. the wind lighter. as we head through the weekend the temperatures start to drop again. a couple of fronts introducing colder air once again into next week. that's it from me — there's more on the bbc news app, and there will be regular bulletins on bbc radio london across the morning. i'll be back in half an hour, but for now, let's cross back to charley and naga. good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today. the public inquiry into the post office scandal resumes this morning, after an unprecedented government promise to quash the convictions of hundreds of innocent people. the public inquiry is trying
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to get to the truth of why so many sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted — today a former investigator will be questioned. he was part of the team whose work led to a number of criminal actions. the deteriorating performance of the nhs — bbc news finds that almost all key health service targets are being missed, putting lives at risk. good morning. the super subs save liverpool in their league cup semifinal. it is only the first leg against fulham. the liverpool boss says he won't michael beer booking any hotels for wembleyjust michael beer booking any hotels for wembley just yet. she's the army medic who keeps making history — we'll be talking to captain preet chandi after her latest world record challenge to the south pole. not quite as cold as the south pole but the cold weather is staying with us into next week. for today, a lot more cloud. not as frosty first thing.
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good morning. it's thursday, the 11th of january. the public inquiry into how hundreds of former sub—postmasters were prosecuted based on evidence from a faulty it system, resumes today. it follows the prime minister's announcement to overturn hundreds of convictions, after the itv drama raised the profile of the scandal. benjoins us from outside the inquiry. tell us what evidence we are hearing today? tell us what evidence we are hearing toda ? ~ , , ., ~ today? well, this is a week when, after years — today? well, this is a week when, after years of _ today? well, this is a week when, after years of slow _ today? well, this is a week when, after years of slow progress, i after years of slow progress, developers have moved quickly. the prime minister announcing there will be swift to new lows to overturn the remaining convictions and compensation for the victims of this scandal. —— a new laws. there will be a lot of attention on the proceedings today. it has been hearing evidence since february 2022. in the current phase it is hearing specifically about the
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action taken against those sub—postmasters. today one of the post office's former investigators will be questioned. he was part of the team whose work led to the wrongful prosecutions and convictions of so many innocent people for crimes they had not committed. i haven't got that money, and i don't know where it's gone. jo hamilton, the sub—postmistress portrayed in the recent itv drama, has played a key role in the fight for justice. she told bbc breakfast her story back in march 2020. 14 times i had to plead guilty. you just wanted to scream. i'd been told that i had to look like i was sorry, and... ..erm, and ijust couldn't explain it. the whole thing was crazy. and two days later, a powerful committee of mps promised they'd investigate. we will be launching an inquiry next week to try and get some answers, and to try and get some justice for people like seema and jo, but hundreds of others in the same position. that was four years ago.
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do you remember how you felt when the announcement of the mps' inquiry was made live on breakfast? wow, it's so exciting. at least somebody somewhere is taking it seriously, you know, which, up until then nobody was really listening. that mps' inquiry led to the bigger public inquiry that resumes today. a statutory public inquiry like this one is a big deal. it has the full backing of the law to make witnesses attend and face questions, even if they don't want to. it can't punish anyone, but it can point the finger where it thinks people and organisations have failed or acted badly. and ultimately, it's about getting to the truth of what really happened and who was involved. and that matters, as one wronglyjailed branch manager told us on yesterday's bbc breakfast special. you're going to the inquiry, are you? lam, yes. what will you be telling the inquiry? i'm not. i'm actually watching one of my investigators, who helped send me to prison. to hear them give evidence? give evidence, yeah, tomorrow.
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and what are you expecting to hear? what do you want to hear? what do you need to hear? i've brought a notepad just to write down, "i don't recall", "i don't remember". i'm going to calculate just to see how many times he says it. how important is it to see the post office's own investigators be quizzed and appear before the inquiry? well, i personally found it very cathartic. i enjoyed watching them squirm a bit. and i think it's good for you to see them put on the rack, just like we were put on the rack in the crown court, because i know how it felt when he was round here at the house accusing me. mr speaker, this is one of the greatest ofjustice in our nation's history. the prime minister's now announced a new law that will overturn all remaining convictions, and the 555 postmasters who took the post office to the high court in 2019, and won, will get an upfront payment of £75,000. they have lost everything.
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they've lost houses, livelihoods, shops, businesses. you know, it's — to think that £75,000 is actually enough, to an average member of the public, they would think that's a lot of money. but actually, when you look at what people have lost, it's absolutely nothing, you know. i think they missed the nought off the end personally. we heard from nine former sub—postmasters on a bbc breakfast special yesterday. sub—postmasters on a bbc breakfast specialyesterday. it sub—postmasters on a bbc breakfast special yesterday. it is available on the bbc iplayer. remember, what happens in their will consist of some very detailed questions, some complicated legal language. but at the very heart of it is one very simple aim. to get to the truth of what happened, how and why the state—owned post office used its power over two decades to relentlessly pursue hundreds of innocent men and women, leading to
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many of them losing their businesses, their homes, their reputations, in some cases their liberty and even their lives. that is why what happens in there today, and in the weeks and months ahead, matters so much to all of them. ben, thank you. we are going to be talking to two other victims of the scandal later in this programme. and we will keep following what is going on, of course, the inquiry, which begins today, throughout the day on the bbc news channel. seven minutes past seven. charlie is taking a look at targets in the nhs, something we talk about all the time. there are always targets. we often hear they are not met. sometimes quite hard to collate those targets and match them with what is really happening. almost all key nhs targets — in a&e, cancer care, and planned proceedures — have been missed for seven years or more across the uk. analysis by bbc news found that northern ireland and wales
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have never met the four—hour a&e waiting time target. our health correspondent sophie hutchinson reports. for years now, right across the uk, nhs performance has been deteriorating, failing to meet key targets aimed at saving lives, and instead putting patients at risk. one such target is for cancer treatment to begin. it's meant to be a maximum of 62 days, roughly two months. but ian binns waited four months. by the time he started chemotherapy, his stage one cancer had become stage four. he told me the wait for treatment was easily the worst time in his life. i would wake up every morning wondering if i had a future, wondering that every day the cancer would be advancing within me. strangely enough, when it got to about three and a half months, i became almost resolved in thinking, this is too late, nothing good is going to happen to you now, which was the case. the scan showed it had spread.
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bbc analysis has found the vast majority of key nhs targets have been missed for seven years or more. it looked at maximum waits for cancer treatment to begin — last hit in england in 2015 — for general hospital treatment, last hit in scotland in 2014, and the four—hour a&e wait, which has never been hit in northern ireland and wales. i'd describe these targets as totemic because they are a key barometer of how the nhs overall is performing. these were the markers that for the best part of 20 years have been used to measure, is the nhs doing well? we're talking about how long you wait to find out if you have cancer, how long you need to wait for life—changing operations. and the fact that they're being failed up and down the country for so long, really should be a wake up call. combined, the targets have been missed for more than 100 years across all four nations. governments in england, wales, scotland and northern ireland said they are investing in staff and equipment to reduce the waits. sophie hutchinson, bbc news.
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researchers at oxford university say the death rate among pregnant women and new mothers rose, during the pandemic, to its highest level in nearly two decades. thrombosis, or blood clots in the veins, was the most common cause of death, with heart disease and poor mental health also common. the department of health says, "last year, nhs england published a three—year plan to make maternity and neonatal care safer and more equitable". early plans are being drawn up for a new nuclear power station which could provide electricity for six million homes. hinkley point c in somerset is still under construction, whilst building work on sizewell c in suffolk is yet to start, following a ten—year delay. the government claims this new site would provide a quarter of the uk's electricity needs. the us secretary of state, antony blinken, says the white house supports "tangible steps" towards the creation of a palestinian state —
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but it must exist alongside israel. mr blinken said more needed to be done to protect civilians. it comes as the world health organisation has appealed to israel to allow more aid into the gaza strip, saying it's become almost impossible to reach those in need. the un security council has demanded an immediate end to attacks on ships in the red sea by iran—backed houthi rebels in yemen. it comes after a british warship, the hms diamond, shot down seven drones in the region. the un resolution endorsed the right of member states to defend their vessels. ecuador�*s president says a wave of deadly attacks has tipped the country into a state of war with criminal gangs. the armed forces have arrested more than 300 suspected gang members. masked gunmen stormed a public tv studio during a live broadcast on tuesday and bombs have been detonated across ecuador. our correspondent will grant sent this report.
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viewers in ecuador watched in disbelief as masked and armed gang members entered a state tv channel and held staff hostage, all of it televised live. translation: they shot one of our cameramen i in the leg, broke the arm of another one. they were shooting bullets inside the studio. the police were called and came in minutes. the gang was soon arrested and the hostages released. but the tv station ambush was just part of the descent into chaos. panic as gunmen stormed guayaquil university. explosions around the country. schools and businesses shut down. and widespread rioting inside ecuador�*s prisons. in response, president daniel noboa called a state of emergency and imposed a curfew. by decree he designated 22 gangs terrorist organisations and ordered the military to, as he put it, neutralise them.
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president noboa says that ecuador is now engaged in an internal armed conflict. but while this explosion of gang violence may have caught the nation off guard, in truth, the storm, which has turned ecuadorfrom one of the safest nations in latin america to one of the most violent, has been brewing for years. an iron fist on crime has been used here before, but it did little to break the gangs�* stranglehold on the andean nation or slow its slide towards bloodshed. will grant, bbc news, guayaquil. 14 minutes past seven. triple—amputee mark ormrod says his prosthetic legs have been returned to him, after they were stolen from his car. the former royal marine broke the record for the fastest man to swim a kilometre using only one arm in 2022. he said a thief smashed his car window and stole several bags on tuesday night. thankfully, all of his lost items — including his prosthetics —
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were returned after someone found them in an alleyway. that is good news. it beggars belief. but they are reunited, so that is a good thing. another good thing is matt with the weather. it has been so cold lately. it has. temperatures have lifted a little bit. but next week it will have that bite to it again. we are not done with the cold yet. good morning. fortoday not done with the cold yet. good morning. for today at least it is looking reasonably dry for the vast majority. fewer showers than yesterday. a lot more cloud. not as many seeing the sunshine. we have the sunshine to begin the day where we have the coldest conditions. —5 in parts of kent and the west of scotland. the green colours show that most of you are frost free. in parts of eastern northern ireland it
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is six or seven celsius right now. not desperately chilly but a lot of cloud. still the chance of some showers towards the east. the sunshine in southern counties of england and wales will give way to a bit more cloud. the channel islands, south—west england and south—west wales... winds light. still a bit of a stiff breeze down the north sea coasts. that will drop the temperature. 8 degrees, feeling more like four to five celsius. where we should be at this stage injanuary. scotland and northern ireland will have the clear skies tonight. there could be some patches of dense fog in central belts. that will linger on to friday. more cloud in england and wales. for most it will be frost free. we could see temperatures down to —8 three some parts of scotland. as we go through the coming days,
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temperatures will drop further and snow showers potentially across the north. matt, thank you. 16 minutes past seven. labour has announced its plan to improve child health across the uk. the proposals include introducing supervised toothbrushing at children's breakfast clubs and restrictions on advertising junk food and vapes. shadow health secretary wes streeting joins us now. good morning. good morning. i am a bit confused- — good morning. good morning. i am a bit confused. a _ good morning. good morning. i am a bit confused. a teacher _ good morning. good morning. i am a bit confused. a teacher who - bit confused. a teacher who supervises breakfast clubs is expected to supervise tooth—brushing children? we expected to supervise tooth-brushing children? ~ ., expected to supervise tooth-brushing children? ~ . ., ., , expected to supervise tooth-brushing children? . ., ., i, children? we have a really big roblem children? we have a really big problem in — children? we have a really big problem in this _ children? we have a really big problem in this country - children? we have a really big problem in this country where | problem in this country where children between the ages of six and ten are experiencing tooth gate —— to the extent is the one reason why they are being admitted to hospital. this is totally avoidable. teaching kids to brush their teeth is parents�* responsibility. in too many cases that is not happening. we can
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either sit back and say, it is the job of parents, if the kids end up in hospital, that is too bad. despite the cost to their health, their teeth and the nhs. orfor relatively small amount of money we can put supervise tooth—brushing inferred kids aged between three and five. they can keep their teeth clean and out of hospital. hagar five. they can keep their teeth clean and out of hospital. how much money and — clean and out of hospital. how much money and what _ clean and out of hospital. how much money and what will _ clean and out of hospital. how much money and what will it _ clean and out of hospital. how much money and what will it pay _ clean and out of hospital. how much money and what will it pay for? i clean and out of hospital. how much money and what will it pay for? yell| money and what will it pay for? yell or rate is £3 million for a supervised toothbrush. that is part of a broader £1.6 billion package we are committing to the nhs. does this 3 billion —— £3 million pay for the time for a teacher to look at every three to five—year—old's teeth and supervised airbrushing? three to five-year-old's teeth and supervised airbrushing?— three to five-year-old's teeth and supervised airbrushing? well, it is art of a supervised airbrushing? well, it is part of a broader _ supervised airbrushing? well, it is part of a broader programme i supervised airbrushing? well, it is part of a broader programme we l supervised airbrushing? well, it is i part of a broader programme we have got four primary school breakfast clubs. every child in the country will be able to access primary school breakfast clubs. but will be able to access primary school breakfast clubs. but this is different. school breakfast clubs. but this is different- i _ school breakfast clubs. but this is different. i take _ school breakfast clubs. but this is different. i take the _ school breakfast clubs. but this is different. i take the point - school breakfast clubs. but this is different. i take the point you i school breakfast clubs. but this is different. i take the point you are| different. i take the point you are makin: different. i take the point you are making but— different. i take the point you are making but that _ different. i take the point you are making but that is _ different. i take the point you are making but that is part _ different. i take the point you are making but that is part of- different. i take the point you are making but that is part of the i different. i take the point you are l
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making but that is part of the time. any teacher will tell you in terms of direct supervision there will be some kids who turn up who they know and can see are confident, brush their teeth. and can see are confident, brush theirteeth. it and can see are confident, brush their teeth. it is about giving kids that come experience.— their teeth. it is about giving kids that come experience. one, i find it uuite that come experience. one, i find it quite bizarre — that come experience. one, i find it quite bizarre that _ that come experience. one, i find it quite bizarre that i _ that come experience. one, i find it quite bizarre that i am _ that come experience. one, i find it quite bizarre that i am talking i quite bizarre that i am talking about supervising children's teeth when everything is going on in this country at this moment in time. we will come onto broader issues. so, evenif will come onto broader issues. so, even if you brush your teeth at home, three to five years old, you then go to a break. and you have group tooth—brushing session? these £3 million covers the time while teachers supervise a group. you get the kids brushing _ teachers supervise a group. you get the kids brushing their— teachers supervise a group. you get the kids brushing their teeth. - teachers supervise a group. you get the kids brushing their teeth. on . the kids brushing their teeth. on the kids brushing their teeth. on the point about other things going on, take that and that is why labour's biggest part of the funding we are putting on is to cut nhs waiting lists. part of a bigger plan to get the nhs back on its feet and fit for the future. but this whole plan about the tooth—brushing in particular, part of a much broader range of measures we are announcing on children's health today, it is
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about making the right decisions now for the longer term, because i think too often those prevention measures that keep the kids well, keep us all well, but keep kids well, out of hospital, those are things that often get lost. we end up racking up the cost to children's out and the taxpayer. the cost to children's out and the taxa er. . ,, the cost to children's out and the taxa er. ., in , the cost to children's out and the taxa er. . ,, , ., the cost to children's out and the taxa er. . ,,4~ 4 4 taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who — taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who is _ taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who is happy _ taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who is happy to _ taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who is happy to do - taxpayer. have you spoken to one teacher who is happy to do this? i teacher who is happy to do this? yes, some schools are already doing it. that is why we have jumped on it. that is why we have jumped on it. one of the approaches i have taken to our health policy more generally is to look at things that are working well in exceptional cases and say, how do we take that from being an exceptional case to being the everywhere case? we have to make sure this happens everywhere. to make sure this happens everywhere-— to make sure this happens everywhere. to make sure this happens eve here. 4 , 4 4 everywhere. have you ever tried to encoura . e everywhere. have you ever tried to encourage a _ everywhere. have you ever tried to encourage a very — everywhere. have you ever tried to encourage a very young _ everywhere. have you ever tried to encourage a very young child - everywhere. have you ever tried to encourage a very young child who i encourage a very young child who doesn't want to brush their teeth, to brush their teeth?— to brush their teeth? yes, i'm afraid i have. _ to brush their teeth? yes, i'm afraid i have. it's _ to brush their teeth? yes, i'm afraid i have. it's not - to brush their teeth? yes, i'm afraid i have. it's not easy, i to brush their teeth? yes, i'm afraid i have. it's not easy, is| to brush their teeth? yes, i'm i afraid i have. it's not easy, is it? it's not like _ afraid i have. it's not easy, is it? it's not like saying, _ afraid i have. it's not easy, is it? it's not like saying, do _ afraid i have. it's not easy, is it? it's not like saying, do your - it's not like saying, do your tables. it is quite hard. even as a
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parent is a quite hard to do. it is just hard, isn't it?— just hard, isn't it? yeah, but i think what _ just hard, isn't it? yeah, but i think what teachers _ just hard, isn't it? yeah, but i think what teachers are - just hard, isn't it? yeah, but i i think what teachers are seeing, where this has been working, is getting kids involved in that group activity, egging each other on, making it part of a broader breakfast club would be a great way to start the day. with the breakfast clubs more broadly it means kids start the day with hungry minds, not hungry bellies. a massive challenge when there is child poverty. i bet some of the parents rushing around getting their kids ready for school and worried about getting to work on time, think, great, i can put my kids in school that bit early. the final thing, just more broadly on the package, we have a more broader range of measures including mental health and well—being in primary schools. we know that it is a huge worry for parents. that will be a great way of making sure young people don't hit mental health crisis point and will end up on
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waiting lists. 200,000 children and is currently are. we are going to prevent ill health, better for children, but also it saves the nhs money. children, but also it saves the nhs mone . 4 ~' , children, but also it saves the nhs mone. , 4 children, but also it saves the nhs mone. ,,4~4, , children, but also it saves the nhs mone. ,,4~4, children, but also it saves the nhs mone. ,444, children, but also it saves the nhs mone. ,,,4',, , money. take us back a step and it is related to the _ money. take us back a step and it is related to the welfare _ money. take us back a step and it is related to the welfare of _ money. take us back a step and it is related to the welfare of teeth. - related to the welfare of teeth. food adverts for things that are bad for you, food adverts for things that are bad foryou, basically. food adverts for things that are bad for you, basically. are you going to try to ban them or put them on at certain hours? junk food, things like that? we certain hours? junk food, things like that? ~ 4 4 , like that? we want to stop the marketing _ like that? we want to stop the marketing of _ like that? we want to stop the marketing ofjunk _ like that? we want to stop the marketing ofjunk food - like that? we want to stop the marketing ofjunk food to - like that? we want to stop the - marketing ofjunk food to children. we have had issues with broadcasters on tv, but also loads of kids right now, they are barely watching tv in the way that i did when i grew up. they are watching the iplayer. hagar they are watching the iplayer. how do ou they are watching the iplayer. how do you ban — they are watching the iplayer. how do you ban those _ they are watching the iplayer. how do you ban those adverts? we - they are watching the iplayer. how do you ban those adverts? we will| do you ban those adverts? we will have a marketing _ do you ban those adverts? we will have a marketing ban _ do you ban those adverts? we will have a marketing ban in _ do you ban those adverts? we will have a marketing ban in terms - do you ban those adverts? we will have a marketing ban in terms of. have a marketing ban in terms of watershed for broadcasting, but also stop the marketing ofjunk food to children. but stop the marketing of 'unk food to children. �* 4 44 , , 4 children. but how come my question? some of the — children. but how come my question? some of the marketing _ children. but how come my question? some of the marketing i _ children. but how come my question? some of the marketing i grew - children. but how come my question?
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some of the marketing i grew up - some of the marketing i grew up with, the coco pops monkey, tony the tiger and frosties, these are characters, this is marketing designed to get kids to say, i want that really sugary. i designed to get kids to say, i want that really sugary.— that really sugary. i think on the --eole that really sugary. i think on the people understand _ that really sugary. i think on the people understand that - that really sugary. i think on the people understand that but - that really sugary. i think on the people understand that but how| that really sugary. i think on the - people understand that but how will you stop it? people understand that but how will ou sto it? 4 4 4 you stop it? through regulation. similarl , you stop it? through regulation. similarly. with — you stop it? through regulation. similarly, with vaping, - you stop it? through regulation. similarly, with vaping, as - you stop it? through regulation. similarly, with vaping, as well, i you stop it? through regulation. i similarly, with vaping, as well, one of the reasons we have decided to come down like a tonne of bricks on the vaping industry, teachers and my family and my community and other schools i have visited around the country, say they are witnessing signs of nicotine withdrawal among kids, skipping out of class to get theirfix in the kids, skipping out of class to get their fix in the toilets. mes their fix in the toilets. wes streeting. _ their fix in the toilets. wes streeting, we _ their fix in the toilets. wes streeting, we understand, but if you say yourself there are people not consuming things via regular broadcasters, streaming, particularly young people, who do you go after their if it is being streamed? who do you go after? melt. streamed? who do you go after? well, it is a combination _ streamed? who do you go after? well, it is a combination of _ streamed? who do you go after? ejj it is a combination of asking the platforms. regulating the platforms. but also, manufacturers that are marketing in this way, and say we
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are not going to stand for it. parents will breathe a sigh of relief when you think about the pressure parents are put under when they are doing the weekly shop, walking up and down the aisles, with kids saying i want this, i want that, and most of the time they are choosing products because it is being marketed to them, going into the basket, going into their bellies, and fuelling a childhood obesity crisis. in this country we have children that are shorter, fatter and less happy than kids in other countries because we have got this childhood health crisis brewing. that's bad for kids now but it is also had for the long term. 50 it is also bad for the long term. so ou it is also had for the long term. so you are going to tell them what to do? ~ .4 you are going to tell them what to do? 4 4 4 , 4 , you are going to tell them what to do? . 4 4 , 4 , 4 do? we are finally getting a grip on this issue that _ do? we are finally getting a grip on this issue that should _ do? we are finally getting a grip on this issue that should have - do? we are finally getting a grip on| this issue that should have engraved a long time ago. br; this issue that should have engraved a long time ago-— a long time ago. by telling them what they can — a long time ago. by telling them what they can eat? _ a long time ago. by telling them what they can eat? in _ a long time ago. by telling them what they can eat? in 20 - a long time ago. by telling them what they can eat? in 20 brush i a long time ago. by telling them - what they can eat? in 20 brush their teeth? ~ . 4 , 4 what they can eat? in 20 brush their teeth? ~ , 4 ~ , 4 , teeth? when it comes to kids we hope arents will teeth? when it comes to kids we hope parents will support _ teeth? when it comes to kids we hope parents will support this. _ teeth? when it comes to kids we hope parents will support this. some - teeth? when it comes to kids we hope parents will support this. some of - parents will support this. some of the evidence that is beginning to emerge on public opinion, parents are saying, why aren't we i had of this? why aren't we getting more support? stare this? why aren't we getting more
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su ort? �* , , 4 , support? are they telling you they want ou support? are they telling you they want you to _ support? are they telling you they want you to tell— support? are they telling you they want you to tell them _ support? are they telling you they want you to tell them what - support? are they telling you they want you to tell them what to - support? are they telling you they want you to tell them what to do? j want you to tell them what to do? you are telling them when their children should brush their teeth and what food they can see advertised.— and what food they can see advertised. hang on, let's be reasonable. _ advertised. hang on, let's be reasonable. every _ advertised. hang on, let's be reasonable. every child - advertised. hang on, let's be. reasonable. every child should advertised. hang on, let's be - reasonable. every child should be brushing their teeth twice a day. you are telling them when they should. hf you are telling them when they should. , 4 , you are telling them when they should. , 4 �* , , should. if parents aren't brushing their teeth _ should. if parents aren't brushing their teeth at _ should. if parents aren't brushing their teeth at home... _ should. if parents aren't brushing their teeth at home... children. i their teeth at home... children. let's not their teeth at home... children. let's not worry _ their teeth at home... children. let's not worry about _ their teeth at home... children. let's not worry about the - their teeth at home... children. l let's not worry about the parents. they are big and ugly enough to look after themselves. when their kids turn up at school and they haven't brush their teeth, that is a problem. it is a problem for children now. it will be a bigger problem in the long term in terms of their cost prague the cost of their health and the cost to the nhs. we have to finally grip this and popped health prevention at the top of the agenda, which is what labour are doing. agenda, which is what labour are doinr. 4 4 agenda, which is what labour are doin. _ 4 , agenda, which is what labour are doinr. 4 , 4 , agenda, which is what labour are doinr. 4 , 4 doing. you 'ust said kids are shorter doing. you just said kids are shorter than _ doing. you just said kids are shorter than ever _ doing. you just said kids are shorter than ever before. i l doing. you just said kids are - shorter than ever before. i have never heard that before. look shorter than ever before. i have never heard that before. look at the international _ never heard that before. look at the international rankings _ never heard that before. look at the international rankings for _ never heard that before. look at the international rankings for boys - never heard that before. look at the international rankings for boys and i international rankings for boys and girls, our country has slipped down the rankings in terms of the height of our children. this is literally
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how tall we stand on the world stage. how tall we stand on the world stare. ~ .4 how tall we stand on the world starel. 4 , 4 how tall we stand on the world staiel. 4 , 4 how tall we stand on the world stae.~ 4 , 4 stage. we are shorter in comparison, not necessarily _ stage. we are shorter in comparison, not necessarily shorter. _ stage. we are shorter in comparison, not necessarily shorter. but - stage. we are shorter in comparison, not necessarily shorter. but we - not necessarily shorter. but we should be _ not necessarily shorter. but we should be growing. _ not necessarily shorter. but we should be growing. in - not necessarily shorter. but we should be growing. in terms i not necessarily shorter. but we should be growing. in terms of| not necessarily shorter. but we i should be growing. in terms of our health, nutrition, diet, exercise, our children should be taller than they are. we are stepping down the rankings. we are not literally standing as tall as we should be on the world stage. because we are not prioritising children's l. and i make no apology whatsoever for saying we are going to do this if we win the general election for the benefit of children today, but also the long—term benefit of our country in the future. thank you. we will stick with the topic of the nhs, perhaps. winter is one of the busiest times of yearfor the nhs, with pressures building across all parts of the health service. this year, things have been even more difficult for staff and patients, following six days ofjunior doctor strikes in england. delayed or cancelled appointments are expected to increase waiting lists. our health correspondent michele paduano has more.
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a bit of a mess. it's not a mess at all. for alf prichard, diy has been a lifelong passion. but it's no longer safe. seven months ago he was told he needed an urgent eye operation for glaucoma, to stabilise his vision. he is yet to get a date from royal stoke hospital. i want to try to retain it for as long as possible, my eyesight. you know, it's very frustrating. it really is very frustrating. i can't just talk about myself in this, to be honest. there eight million other people out there. you know, they're going through pain, probably life—threatening conditions. here in sandwell they had to cancel planned operations over christmas. although waiting lists were already far too long, strikes haven't helped. we've prioritised safety. that's why we've had to prioritise urgent and emergency services over routine clinics or routine procedures, to ensure there is no harm coming to our patients. it certainly has an impact nationally. the strikes have definitely
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affected waiting times. but we've always prioritised safety in our department. during the last week in december, sandwell hospital was literally full, and they had to find more beds. it was very difficult to plan - through christmas around capacity and around staffing as well. staffing was an additional pressure. so we had real trouble to ensure safe staffing levels over the christmas and new year period. i we did manage it but it was a bit of a challenge. - worcestershire acute hospital declined to comment on allegations that a patient waited ten hours with a head injury, and another required resuscitation in a waiting area, citing confidentiality. it said it is prioritising patients' safety and seeing patients as quickly as possible. junior doctors say there are always winter pressures. before any strike action even occurred, waiting lists were at seven million, record levels. and the reason for that is we just don't have the staff to deal with the complexity and the patient burden within the nhs any more. royal stoke hospital says it
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prioritises eye operations by need. for alf prichard, who is having to sell his motor home because of his failing sight, thejunior doctors' strike just means a longer delay and a greater need. michele paduano, bbc news. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill. the family of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept, say they don't want her death to be in vain. sofia duarte, who died last year, would have been celebrating her 23rd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition organised by her friend and family, which is backed by london fire brigade, calling for tighter regulations for electric bikes and their batteries. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. it could be preventable. if we can change the law it means that her death was not in vain.
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because at the moment that is how we feel. every person that dies because of an e—bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time. a triple—amputee and gold—medal winning athlete who also took part in north london watery could have its... brent marjorie is running out of space due to more deaths being investigated and increases in the length of stay of deceased people. in 2021 a human tissue authority ordered found the site no longer met its requirements for sufficient storage. a london busker is hoping to play his guitar outside every london underground station to raise money for charity. singer dan tredget hopes to be the first person in history to busk at all 272 stations, whilst raising money for the homeless charity glassdoor.
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it's been such a surprising kind of experience. you just never know what you're going to get and you never know really what to expect from each station. initially, i thought going into zone i would be the best, like, going to places like leicester square. but, in the end, it's places in the outer zones that have been the most fun and the most generous. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's minor delays on the central, circle, and piccidilly lines. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. another cold start with temperatures widely down below zero. it is dry though, it is sunny, but we will see more cloud sinking south through the afternoon. clear skies last night, therefore the sunshine first thing. high pressure still in charge, so it is dry. some slightly less cold air bringing in some moisture. so turning cloudy through the day. temperatures somewhere between four and six celsius. we have still got the north—easterly breeze, so temperatures likely to feel colder. overnight we will hang onto this cloud. again, staying dry.
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the wind lighter, but the temperature as a result of the cloud will not drop so low, between three to five celsius, the minimum temperature. staying in single figures. tomorrow we hang onto the cloud through friday. again, largely dry, one or two brighter spells potentially. could get a spot of drizzle in the cloud, but, like i said, should stay largely dry. the wind a little lighter. as we head through the weekend, the temperatures start to drop again. a couple of fronts introducing colder air once again into next week. that's it from me — there's more on the bbc news app and there will be regular bulletins on bbc radio london across the morning. i'll be back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. the post office scandal has dominated the headlines over the past few days and today the public inquiry is set to resume. michael and susan rudkin, who ran
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a post office in leicestershire, were among the thousands affected. susan was convicted of losing £44,000 and given a suspended prison sentence. our reporter helen astle has been speaking to them. michael rudkin describes the last 15 years as a living hell. the couple run the post office here in ibstock. michael's wife, susan, is still too upset to talk about what's happened. she was convicted of losing £44,000. she was given a suspended sentence and was electronically tagged. her conviction was later overturned. for michael, today's news is a step in the right direction. i was pleased that the overall principle of making sure that everybody has this blanket overturning of convictions because they've waited far too long for this. it feels as though we're heading definitely in the right direction, after 20 years, i hasten to add. journalist richard brooks has been following the story for more than a decade.
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many of the victims, well, they've all been waiting far too long. many are now quite old. some have died. so the onus really is on getting this sorted out very quickly. and it's rough around the edges, but it has to be done. since the drama aired, michael's phone has barely stopped ringing, with both requests for interviews and messages from other victims of horizon. in the drama, michael was played by shaun dooley. really was a surreal moment. we're watching it. along comes shaun dooley, who was playing my role and introduced himself, "my name is michael rudkin" and i'm sat there and i'm thinking, "no, i'm michael rudkin, "you're not michael rudkin". and then watching the programme as it unfolded, it was such an accurate depiction of what went off over the years. michael says that the impact since the series has gone out has been immense.
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feeling castigated throughout your community and your friends, slowly they ebb away from you, keeping a distance. all of a sudden, 20 years later, i'm getting messages from people who literally i haven't spoken to for 20 years, saying, "we saw the programme, we didn't realise, so sorry". the couple have slowly rebuilt their lives and now run a b&b, but the legacy of what's happened still lingers. if you could even remotely think of what hell would look like, then multiply that by ten, that's how our lives have been these last 15 years. absolute hell. in a statement, a post office spokesperson said they're fully aware of the human cost of the scandal and are doing all they can to right the wrongs of the past. to date, offers of compensation totalling more than £138 million have been made.
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michael says he wants to be recompensed for their loss of earnings and to be compensated for what's happened to them. and it's only then that he and his wife can move on. helen astle, bbc news, leicestershire. we're joined by pauline stonehouse, who ran a post office in sunderland and was also prosecuted. good morning to you. we were just chatting a moment ago, won't we? and i said, how are we and you feel talked out because of what's been going on. you describe yourself yesterday at home having a moment in time, tell me. i yesterday at home having a moment in time. tell me— time, tell me. i felt like the aintin time, tell me. i felt like the painting the _ time, tell me. i felt like the painting the screen - time, tell me. i felt like the| painting the screen because time, tell me. i felt like the i painting the screen because the world has gone mad with the coverage of the scandal. i world has gone mad with the coverage of the scandal-— of the scandal. i dare say you welcome _ of the scandal. i dare say you welcome the _ of the scandal. i dare say you welcome the coverage. i of the scandal. i dare say you welcome the coverage. -- i of the scandal. i dare say you i welcome the coverage. -- the of the scandal. i dare say you - welcome the coverage. -- the scream. but in the same — welcome the coverage. -- the scream.
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but in the same breath, _ welcome the coverage. -- the scream. but in the same breath, personally i but in the same breath, personally it must be overwhelming. 25er it must be overwhelming. very overwhelming. _ it must be overwhelming. very overwhelming. it _ it must be overwhelming. very overwhelming. it brings - it must be overwhelming. - overwhelming. it brings back a lot of memories, bad memories, as well. of the time when it happened and the investigation that took place. the interrogation by the investigators, yeah, it brings it all back. do interrogation by the investigators, yeah, it brings it all back.- yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take _ yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take us _ yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take us back— yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take us back a _ yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take us back a little i yeah, it brings it all back. do you want to take us back a little bit i yeah, it brings it all back. do you| want to take us back a little bit so people watching fully understand? you were running a post office and you were looking at the numbers and you were looking at the numbers and you can't make them add up and then you can't make them add up and then you talk about this investigation, the interrogation. could you give us a short version of that process and how soon it became very hostile? certainly. from having a new counter installed, a new computer system, being upgraded. from that point things started going wrong. every week, consistent shortages that got larger and larger and larger, computer's crashing, losing transactions, phoning the helpline,
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asking for help, not getting any. being reassured it would overturn itself, correct itself, it never did. having to take money from the shop takings to put into the post office to make the shortages correct. then coming to a point where we couldn't do that any more and they were taking money from my wages to pay off the debt that way. they took three or four different amounts out of my wages. i couldn't do that any more either i said otherwise i would have no wages left. subsequently contacting the area manager to say this is what has been going on, this is what i have been going on, this is what i have been doing, i can't do this no more, the stress is too much. and then immediately suspended, auditors sent in, having the keys taken out of my hands and no longer being even access to the counter.— hands and no longer being even access to the counter. having spoken to other sub-postmasters _ access to the counter. having spoken to other sub-postmasters and - to other sub—postmasters and post—mistresses, this is a common story of how quickly it escalated. you were in the wrong, there was no
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question of the systems being wrong. what happened after the keys were taken away?— what happened after the keys were taken away? pretty quickly, i would sa within taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a — taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a week _ taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a week i _ taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a week i was _ taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a week i was invited i taken away? pretty quickly, i would say within a week i was invited to i say within a week i was invited to an interview which, essentially, turned into a derogation. i was interviewed under caution. —— turned into an interrogation. it was a good couple of hours. pond into an interrogation. it was a good couple of hours.— couple of hours. and this is by the post office? _ couple of hours. and this is by the post office? because _ couple of hours. and this is by the post office? because the - couple of hours. and this is by the post office? because the post i couple of hours. and this is by the i post office? because the post office has the legal power in england and wales to bring about convictions? fist wales to bring about convictions? git no point where the police involved, it was just them. and i then no point where the police involved, it wasjust them. and i then had numerous in—depth questions about my personal life and my husband. if i hadn't taken it, did he? not told me, as if he would do that. and then obviously the staff didn't do it or did they? no. and they said we have got to prosecute you to set the
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example because you are the only one thatis example because you are the only one that is done this. ok. example because you are the only one that is done this.— that is done this. ok, which in consequence _ that is done this. ok, which in consequence so _ that is done this. ok, which in consequence so years - that is done this. ok, which in consequence so years you i that is done this. ok, which in l consequence so years you found wasn't true. —— in consequent years. we went from sunderland to durham and ended up in newcastle crown court, to the final day. their own barrister was standing there and saying, look, pauline didn't steal the money, you can't do any more to her than what has already happened because by this point i had been made bankrupt, i had my home taken off me. we had to be rehomed by the council. sorry... it’s off me. we had to be rehomed by the council. sorry...— council. sorry... it's outrageous, pauline, council. sorry... it's outrageous, pauline. you _ council. sorry... it's outrageous, pauline, you are _ council. sorry... it's outrageous, pauline, you are absolutely i council. sorry... it's outrageous, pauline, you are absolutely fine i council. sorry... it's outrageous, i pauline, you are absolutely fine to get upset because i am furious for you, as is everyone listening. you had made payments. did you have to promise a payment? hie. had made payments. did you have to promise a payment?— promise a payment? no, at that oint, promise a payment? no, at that point. they _ promise a payment? no, at that point, they basically _ promise a payment? no, at that point, they basically said - promise a payment? no, at that point, they basically said that i promise a payment? no, at that. point, they basically said that you plead guilty to false accounting
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rather than theft and then you won't go to prison. so... they proceeded to give me a six month sentence. i had no money to give them and they didn't ask me for any money. i’m didn't ask me for any money. i'm thinkin , didn't ask me for any money. i'm thinking, pauline, anyone watching this now is going to be living this with you thinking a regular person making a living and this thing happens to you completely outside of your control. you mentioned your husband, christopher, and you had young daughters at that time, as well. how did this play out in terms of those relationships? obviously, they would have trusted you implicitly. did you end up having horrendous conversations? even asking did you end up having to ask your husband, knowing he hadn't done anything wrong, did you end up having those kinds of conversations? yes because when they brought it up in the interrogation and said are
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you sure your husband didn't do it? even though i said, no, he didn't, they then put that kernel of doubt in your mind and i left and i stewed over it for a couple of days. eventually, i had to ask him and i said, "i'm sorry, babe, i have to ask you this, they put the idea in my head, did you steal the money? i know you haven't, but i have to ask". the result of that question could have ended my marriage. and i will never forgive them for that. it hasn't, because we are strong as anything but it could have resulted in that. do anything but it could have resulted in that. ., anything but it could have resulted in that. , 4 ., , , anything but it could have resulted in that. ., , , 4 ., in that. do you need a sip of water? no, i'm in that. do you need a sip of water? no. i'm all— in that. do you need a sip of water? no, i'm all right. _ in that. do you need a sip of water? no, i'm all right. when _ in that. do you need a sip of water? no, i'm all right. when you - in that. do you need a sip of water? no, i'm all right. when you were i no, i'm all right. when you were made homeless _ no, i'm all right. when you were made homeless and _ no, i'm all right. when you were made homeless and you - no, i'm all right. when you were made homeless and you were i no, i'm all right. when you were - made homeless and you were rehoused by the council, what was the impact that had and your children? i know this because we spoke about this just a short while ago. that's hard for children because you are rooted, aren't you? changing schools. it is. aren't you? changing schools. it is. for her she — aren't you? changing schools. it is. for her she would _ aren't you? changing schools. it is. for her she would have _ aren't you? changing schools. ut 3 for her she would have only been nine, junior school, starting junior
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school, to having to move to a new school, make new friends, he the new kid in school, and be bullied for a little while because of that and be isolated. it was very hard on her. i think it's had an impact continuously since then. she was quite an outgoing child up until that point. and she wasn't, for a long time. she is bouncing back as she has got into adult hood but it wasn't good for ages. the she has got into adult hood but it wasn't good for ages.— she has got into adult hood but it wasn't good for ages. the next stage ofthe wasn't good for ages. the next stage of the inquiry — wasn't good for ages. the next stage of the inquiry is _ wasn't good for ages. the next stage of the inquiry is beginning _ wasn't good for ages. the next stage of the inquiry is beginning today. i of the inquiry is beginning today. what we know is in terms of compensation what people are going to get, do you know what you might be entitled to? i to get, do you know what you might be entitled to?— be entitled to? i have no idea yet. i'm still waiting _ be entitled to? i have no idea yet. i'm still waiting for _ be entitled to? i have no idea yet. i'm still waiting for a _ be entitled to? i have no idea yet. i'm still waiting for a figure - be entitled to? i have no idea yet. i'm still waiting for a figure from i i'm still waiting for a figure from the solicitors via the forensic accountants that hopefully is forthcoming this month. i've been told in the new year what that figure is, though, is anybody�*s guess. figure is, though, is anybody's uess. 4, 4 4 figure is, though, is anybody's uess. 4 ,, 4 figure is, though, is anybody's iuess. 4 ,, 4 guess. regardless of the figure, does any amount, _ guess. regardless of the figure,
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does any amount, be _ guess. regardless of the figure, does any amount, be it - guess. regardless of the figure, does any amount, be it a - guess. regardless of the figure, i does any amount, be it a £600,000, £75,000, various figures being bandied about, is any amount going to compensate you? hie. bandied about, is any amount going to compensate you?— to compensate you? no, they will never give — to compensate you? no, they will never give my _ to compensate you? no, they will never give my life _ to compensate you? no, they will never give my life or _ to compensate you? no, they will never give my life or livelihood i never give my life or livelihood back, my peace of mind and my confidence back either. they have destroyed so much. they have destroyed so much. they have destroyed so much potential for us, as well, because that business was our future, as well, because that business was ourfuture, what as well, because that business was our future, what we could have done up our future, what we could have done up until retirement. there was so much possibilities and they took that off us. much possibilities and they took that off us— much possibilities and they took that off us. 4 ., 4 , 4 , 4 that off us. pauline, thank you so much for sharing _ that off us. pauline, thank you so much for sharing your _ that off us. pauline, thank you so much for sharing your story. it's i much for sharing your story. it's not necessarily easy. you came here saying you are a chatterbox! i am! you told us _ saying you are a chatterbox! i am! you told us an _ saying you are a chatterbox! i am! you told us an extraordinary i saying you are a chatterbox! i a�*ni you told us an extraordinary story. it helps, all of us from the outside, to understand what it is like. 4 4 4 outside, to understand what it is like. 4 ., ., ., ., like. you have a granddaughter. i have, like. you have a granddaughter. i have. she — like. you have a granddaughter. i have. she is _ like. you have a granddaughter. i have, she is two _ like. you have a granddaughter. i have, she is two and _ like. you have a granddaughter. i have, she is two and a _ like. you have a granddaughter. i have, she is two and a half. in i have, she is two and a half. in amongst things, that must be one of the things that is a blessing to think that takes you away. she
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the things that is a blessing to think that takes you away. she is my little isabel. — think that takes you away. she is my little isabel, yeah, _ think that takes you away. she is my little isabel, yeah, she _ think that takes you away. she is my little isabel, yeah, she is— think that takes you away. she is my little isabel, yeah, she is two - think that takes you away. she is my little isabel, yeah, she is two she i little isabel, yeah, she is two she is gorgeous, she is my world. thank ou. that is gorgeous, she is my world. thank you- that is — is gorgeous, she is my world. thank you. that is brilliant. _ is gorgeous, she is my world. thank you. that is brilliant. i _ is gorgeous, she is my world. thank you. that is brilliant. i wish - is gorgeous, she is my world. thank you. that is brilliant. i wish you i you. that is brilliant. i wish you and yourfamily you. that is brilliant. i wish you and your family all the best. thank ou ve and your family all the best. thank you very much- _ if you missed yesterday's special breakfast programme on the scandal, you can rewatch nine former sub—postmasters telling us their stories — that's available on the bbc iplayer. very much like the story you have just heard. available on the iplayer now. it is coming up to 7:45am. there are lots of history making moment in the programme today, matt will bring us one and mike will tell us how today marks a moment in history. potentially! i must stress at the moment, nothing has been decided, it is speculation on whether or not the future of the semifinals in the league cup will be a single match. at the moment it is still very much a two legged affair in the semifinals, which makes it unique.
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liverpool are still firmly on course of a record—extending tenth league cup win, after staging a second—half turnaround to beat fulham at anfield in their first leg of their semifinal tie last night. asi as i say, at the moment, it is still over two legs. so it's all set up nicely for the second leg at craven cottage in two weeks' time. here's patrick gearey. this is anfield and this is liverpool, but not entirely the version we've been used to. with several stars injured or absent, perhaps opponents fulham were emboldened. willian faster, sharper, scorer. this was already further than fulham had gone in this competition in their history. now their road to wembley reached a fork. what if bobby decordova—reid had spotted andreas pereira in the middle and passed instead of shooting? things might have been different. instead, curtisjones jolted liverpool into life. the deflection changed the course of the match. three minutes later, they'd flipped this completely. cody gakpo casually flattened fulham, but they had to switch from commiseration to self—preservation. a third liverpool goal might take
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the semifinal beyond them. keeper bernd leno kept them in it. maybe another what if? fulham must focus on the what now? in two weeks in west london, they need a turnaround of their own. patrick geary, bbc news. there's a row brewing around yorkshire cricket club again, after the board approved a controversial takeover by a consortium, headed up by the former chairman, colin graves. the 75—year—old, was chair of yorkshire from 2012 until 2015 — part of the period that later saw the club fined for failing to address the systemic use of racist language. and discriminatory language. graves has previously denied knowledge of any racist behaviour, during his time at the club. the former player turned whistleblower azeem rafiq has called on yorkshire's sponsors to oppose graves' return and posted a message on social media which said "no longer my club" with a broken heart emoji. we are just three days away from the first tennis grand slam of the year and in the last few hours, the draw has been made
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for the first round of the australian open. emma raducanu makes her return to a major event against american shelby rogers. raducanu has had an eight—month injury lay—off after having wrist and ankle surgery last may. she could face british number one katie boulter in the third round. five—time finalist andy murray plays the 30th seed tomas martin etcheverry. murray was the only british player to land a seeded player in the draw. mark selby looked in great form last night as he booked his place in the quarterfinals of snooker�*s masters. he barely missed a ball against robert milkins and was 3—0 frames up when he was distracted by what sounded like a noise in the crowd. not impressed. a strong reaction. but he recovered his composure and still won the frame and milkins could only get one on the board, as selby cruised to a 6—1 victory. you need hush—hush and quiet at the snooker, don't you? the slightest sound could throw you off your game. someone who lost early this week
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said they were distracted and they lost but they didn't blame it... a fly landed on their head. it could be anything. _ fly landed on their head. it could be anything. a — fly landed on their head. it could be anything. a fly. _ fly landed on their head. it could be anything, a fly, a _ fly landed on their head. it could be anything, a fly, a noise i fly landed on their head. it could be anything, a fly, a noise in i fly landed on their head. it could be anything, a fly, a noise in thej be anything, a fly, a noise in the crowd. it sounded like a dropped plate may be! but he was fine in the end, we don't have that here. figs plate may be! but he was fine in the end, we don't have that here. as you do, when end, we don't have that here. as you do. when you — end, we don't have that here. as you do. when you are _ end, we don't have that here. as you do, when you are watching _ end, we don't have that here. as you do, when you are watching the i do, when you are watching the snooker, having your tea! do, when you are watching the snooker, having yourtea! it do, when you are watching the snooker, having your tea! it is very off—putting if you get noises off in the studio, isn't it? you never know what's going to happen!— what's going to happen! usually it is a chuckle _ what's going to happen! usually it is a chuckle when _ what's going to happen! usually it is a chuckle when i _ what's going to happen! usually it is a chuckle when i get _ what's going to happen! usually it is a chuckle when i get things - is a chuckle when i get things wrong! is a chuckle when i get things wronu! ~ ,, �* a, clear skies. although when it is that clear, it is bra sick! it clear skies. although when it is that clear, it is bra sick!- that clear, it is bra sick! it is, this time _ that clear, it is bra sick! it is, this time of— that clear, it is bra sick! it is, this time of year. _ that clear, it is bra sick! it is, this time of year. some - that clear, it is bra sick! it is, this time of year. some this | that clear, it is bra sick! it is, - this time of year. some this morning but you have the chill. good morning, this was the viewjust a short while ago of the thames towards greenwich. parts of south—east england and east anglia, temperatures well below freezing. in the southern counties too and western scotland a bit chilly, —6 is the coldest spot but in northern
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ireland, temperature is around 6 or 7 degrees. it is frost free, fair bit of cloud around. the cloud is thinner than it was yesterday. may just be one or two spots of drizzle. it will be pushing its way southwards. through parts of the midlands. sunny in the channel islands and the south—west. sunshine later across scotland. enough of a breeze down those eastern coasts of northern england to add to the chill, temperatures overall on the face it where they should be this stage of the year. tonight, more cloud across england and wales, won't be quite as cold. initially frost across south—west wales but temperatures rise later. a pocket of frost across north—west england. scotland and northern ireland, some dense patches of fog, temperatures down to as low as —8 as we go into
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tomorrow. another dry day for most, high pressure in charge but we will start to see the winds shift and that will mean that north—east england likely to see the sunniest conditions on friday. back to you. thanks. those cold temperatures — back to you. thanks. those cold temperatures that _ back to you. thanks. those cold temperatures that matt - back to you. thanks. those cold temperatures that matt was - back to you. thanks. those cold i temperatures that matt was talking about won't mean much to our next guest! they won't really register. no. she is always dressed for the right weather. you might remember the british army officer preet chandi, aptly nicknamed polar preet, for her record—breaking antarctic treks. well, she's just returned from her latest epic challenge, setting off from the hercules inlet and skiing more than 700 miles to the south pole. it is worth repeating! skiing more than 700 miles! it took her just 31 days, and she's now believed to be the world's fastest woman to ski the route solo, as charlotte winfield reports.
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captain preet chandi, the british army medic who keeps making history. she's been hailed by royalty, appointed an mba, broken two world records. and if that wasn't enough... ..now she's done it again. we think. the world record has to be officially confirmed. i got the record, 80 days. but it's believed polar preet is now the world's fastest woman ever to reach the south pole. my battery died! pulling a 12 stone sledge with everything she needed to survive and battling temperatures of —30 degrees celsius, there were highs... it's actually going all right so far, moving quite well and i'm actually sleeping well, as well. ..and lows.
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not a great day today. but focusing on the next day. she had to ski for up to 13 hours a day and whatever the weather, preet kept going. skiing is hard. a month later, her determination paid off. the finnish flag was finally in sight and so was her favorite drink. i've got a little parcel here. i've just made it to the south pole. wonder what it could be. preet�*s goal is to show people you can do anything. so as for what's next on her list? the sky's the limit. charlotte winfield, bbc news. preet chandi joins us now. good morning! iwill explain, the reason preet was putting her leggings back on, we were talking about results of being in the cold,
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i am terrible with the cold and couldn't imagine doing anything like this, you said you get used to it but... i this, you said you get used to it but... ., , this, you said you get used to it but... .,, ., ~ ., but... i was talking about the in'u i but... i was talking about the injury i got — but... i was talking about the injury i got last _ but... i was talking about the injury i got last year, - but... i was talking about the injury i got last year, my - but... i was talking about the | injury i got last year, my polar thigh injury. injury i got last year, my polar thigh injury-— injury i got last year, my polar thigh injury. injury i got last year, my polar thiuh in'u . ., ,, ,, thigh in'ury. can you fling your leg over? thigh injury. can you fling your leg over? just hold _ thigh injury. can you fling your leg over? just hold that _ thigh injury. can you fling your leg over? just hold that position - thigh injury. can you fling your leg over? just hold that position for a | over? just hold that position for a moment! i5 over? just hold that position for a moment! , ., ., ., ., over? just hold that position for a moment! ., ., ., ., , over? just hold that position for a moment! , ., ., ., ., moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft- — moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft- i _ moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft- i got — moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft. i got the _ moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft. i got the injury - moment! is that a graft? that is a skin graft. i got the injury from i skin graft. i got the injury from the last trip and my skin slowly broke down. they had surgery in derby hospital in february and they took skin from my upper thigh. it was saville chill blow, that is a really good way to explain it. —— it was severe. really good way to explain it. -- it was severe-— really good way to explain it. -- it was severe._ it i really good way to explain it. -- it i was severe._ it was was severe. where you hurt? it was uuite was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful- _ was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful- it _ was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful. it was _ was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful. it was the _ was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful. it was the cold - was severe. where you hurt? it was quite painful. it was the cold and i quite painful. it was the cold and they went. at the start, it was almost like a bruise. i thought it was a bruise, i was touching it and it started to get darker and then it started to open and then it started to get quite painful. sadly, it happened only a few weeks into that
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trip and that was a 70 day expedition and it got worse and worse. i put a dressing on it and left that dressing on and was hoping i would be ok when i finished. i had amazing medical support when i finished up until the point i got home. derby hospital, they are great. and then i had surgery. i said there was no way i was going back again next season. find said there was no way i was going back again next season.— said there was no way i was going back again next season. and then you did! is your — back again next season. and then you did! is your latest _ back again next season. and then you did! is your latest an _ back again next season. and then you did! is your latest an official - did! is your latest an official record yet?— did! is your latest an official record yet? did! is your latest an official record et? �* . ., , record yet? i'm waiting. i am 'ust waitinu. record yet? i'm waiting. i am 'ust waiting. what �* record yet? i'm waiting. i am 'ust waiting. what is i record yet? i'm waiting. i am 'ust waiting. what is the i record yet? i'm waiting. i amjust waiting. what is the process? - record yet? i'm waiting. i amjust| waiting. what is the process? you have done the _ waiting. what is the process? you have done the journey? _ waiting. what is the process? you have done the journey? yes, - waiting. what is the process? you have done the journey? yes, i - waiting. what is the process? you i have done the journey? yes, i went through polar expedition classification system and they will be ha - classification system and they will be happy and _ classification system and they will be happy and then _ classification system and they will be happy and then they _ classification system and they will be happy and then they will - classification system and they will be happy and then they will tell. be happy and then they will tell guinness world records. i am waiting for everybody to confirm. flan guinness world records. i am waiting for everybody to confirm. can i guinness world records. i am waiting for everybody to confirm.— for everybody to confirm. can i get the details — for everybody to confirm. can i get the details of _ for everybody to confirm. can i get the details of the _ for everybody to confirm. can i get the details of the trip? _ for everybody to confirm. can i get the details of the trip? you - for everybody to confirm. can i get the details of the trip? you were i the details of the trip? you were skiing 700 miles, 31 days. i know it is not split all evenly but what
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does that mean? a certain amount of skiing done and over what terrain? it changes pedigree. 10 degrees to the south pole and you are going from 80 degrees south to 90 degrees south, 70 miles per degree. for example, there is a steep uphill in the first degree and some degrees there are more ridges. sister . occasionally my sled flipped. i am skiing i2 . occasionally my sled flipped. i am skiing 12 to 13 hours a day. the last trip, any tough days ijust compared it. ithought last trip, any tough days ijust compared it. i thought i had done a big trip before i would be ok. it went a lot smoother. i didn't have any injuries, i didn't have any issues. although i lost my hair band become very resourceful. i cut off
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the top of my sock.— the top of my sock. let's have a look at this. _ the top of my sock. let's have a look at this. i _ the top of my sock. let's have a look at this. i created _ the top of my sock. let's have a look at this. i created a - the top of my sock. let's have a look at this. i created a new - look at this. i created a new hairband- — look at this. i created a new hairband. what _ look at this. i created a new hairband. what is _ look at this. i created a new hairband. what is that? - look at this. i created a new hairband. what is that? it . look at this. i created a new hairband. what is that? it is look at this. i created a new - hairband. what is that? it is the elastic bit from _ hairband. what is that? it is the elastic bit from the _ hairband. what is that? it is the elastic bit from the top - hairband. what is that? it is the elastic bit from the top of- hairband. what is that? it is the elastic bit from the top of the i elastic bit from the top of the sock. ~ . ., , , elastic bit from the top of the sock. . . . , , ., sock. which i realised i still have on my wrist _ sock. which i realised i still have on my wrist because _ sock. which i realised i still have on my wrist because it _ sock. which i realised i still have on my wrist because it has - sock. which i realised i still have i on my wrist because it has become part of me now. you do become very resourceful!— resourceful! preet, you have on the face of it a — resourceful! preet, you have on the face of it a very _ resourceful! preet, you have on the face of it a very bubbly _ resourceful! preet, you have on the face of it a very bubbly and - face of it a very bubbly and positive outlook, would that be fair? ., ~ positive outlook, would that be fair? . ~ h, positive outlook, would that be fair? . ~ but positive outlook, would that be i fair?_ but people fair? yeah, i think so. but people who do these _ fair? yeah, i think so. but people who do these kind _ fair? yeah, i think so. but people who do these kind of _ fair? yeah, i think so. but people who do these kind of adventures, j who do these kind of adventures, especially solo, the physical thing is one thing but then there is what goes on in your head.— is one thing but then there is what goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when _ goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when you _ goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when you are _ goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when you are in _ goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when you are in a - goes on in your head. yes. are there moments when you are in a different kind of a place and how do you get out of it? without a doubt. i have struggled a lot. it is almost a bit like a mental prison sometimes and i used to struggle to get out of that. i would concentrate on taking one step at a time, sometimes even having dory from finding nemo in my
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head saying just keep going. sometimes i count. when i find it hard, i will count to 100 and i will do that repetitively. to hard, i will count to 100 and i will do that repetitively.— do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? _ do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? i _ do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? i try _ do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? i try to - do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? i try to focus . do that repetitively. to block out other thoughts? i try to focus on j other thoughts? i try to focus on what ou other thoughts? i try to focus on what you can _ other thoughts? i try to focus on what you can control, _ other thoughts? i try to focus on what you can control, you - other thoughts? i try to focus on what you can control, you can't i what you can control, you can't control the weather, i can't control that but i can try and focus on what i can control. sometimes mentally it is really difficult. it is a struggle. your darkest, deepest thoughts come to you when you don't want them to and you can't distract yourself, i can't do something different, watch netflix, call a friend. it is to distract myself. i have tried really hard this year the last year as well, to work on that. these deepest, darkest thoughts, how do i get away from that? part of it was frustration and anger towards people who i felt made it harder for me to get there, but boundaries in the way. ifound me to get there, but boundaries in the way. i found that very difficult to get away from. this is probably the best i felt. i spoke to somebody
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professionally earlier last year. i'm really glad i did, it really helped. it is hard to do that, be uncomfortable. in those moments, but i have started to feel a bit of comfort within that.- i have started to feel a bit of comfort within that. you said never aaain after comfort within that. you said never again after the _ comfort within that. you said never again after the last _ comfort within that. you said never again after the last year _ comfort within that. you said never again after the last year and - comfort within that. you said never again after the last year and then i again after the last year and then you did this. next? i again after the last year and then you did this. next?— you did this. next? i am on my career break — you did this. next? i am on my career break from _ you did this. next? i am on my career break from the - you did this. next? i am on my career break from the army, i i you did this. next? i am on my- career break from the army, i have a little bit of time. i can't even use that as an excuse. i would love to write some of this stuff down. yes. i want to do — write some of this stuff down. yes. i want to do that. _ write some of this stuff down. yes. i want to do that. i _ write some of this stuff down. yes. i want to do that. i don't _ write some of this stuff down. yes. i want to do that. i don't know what is next but i can't imagine not doing anything. i'm a bit tired and i have lost some weight but this is the best i have felt after a trip. which is a really nice. it is nice to feel good, especially after the last one. the last one was so difficult, it helped me this time round. ., ., ., round. thanks for coming in and tellin: us round. thanks for coming in and telling us the — round. thanks for coming in and telling us the story. _ round. thanks for coming in and telling us the story. enjoy i round. thanks for coming in and telling us the story. enjoy the i telling us the story. enjoy the rest! thank you. preet chandi, soon
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to be world record—holder we hope. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london. i'm thomas magill. the family of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept, say they don't want her death to be in vain. sofia duarte, who died last year, would have been celebrating her 23rd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition organised by her friend and family, which is backed by london fire brigade, calling for tighter regulations for electric bikes and their batteries. it could be preventable. if we can change the law it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that is how we feel. every person that dies because of an e—bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time. a north london hospital could have its mortuary expanded to tackle a growing need for storage. brent mortuary, at northwick park
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hospital, is running out of space in 2021, an audit found the site no longer met its requirement for sufficient storage. let's take a look at the tubes now. that takes us to the weather and it's going to be a bright start to the day — with cloud moving in from the north this afternoon. it's expected to remain dry with a top temperature of six degrees. that's it from me. there's more on the bbc news app, and there will be regular bulletins on bbc radio london across the morning, i'll be back in half an hour but for now lets cross back to charley and naga good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today. the public inquiry into the post office scandal resumes this morning after an unprecedented government promise to quash the convictions
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of hundreds of innocent people. the inquiry is trying to get to the truth of why so many sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted. today a former investigator will be questioned. he was part of the team whose work led to so many being convicted and some even jailed. the deteriorating performance of the nhs. bbc news finds that almost all key health service targets are being missed, putting lives at risk. a grieving family's call for urgent new safety laws after another death from a fire caused by an exploding battery in an electric bike. if we can change the law, it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that's how we feel. the former england manager sven—goran eriksson has revealed he has been diagnosed with terminal cancer. he says in a "best case" scenario, he has around a year left to live but will resist it as long as possible. eriksson managed england forfive years before leaving after the 2006 world cup.
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and it is 70 years ago since this man became the first meteorologist to step in front of the camera as tv weather forecaster began. i will look through the archives and also bring you the forecast for today, which for many will be cloudy and very cold. good morning. it's thursday, the 11th of january. the public inquiry into how hundreds of former sub—postmasters were prosecuted based on evidence from a faulty it system, resumes today. it follows the prime minister's announcement to overturn hundreds of convictions, after the itv drama raised the profile of the scandal. benjoins us from outside the inquiry. it is resuming. what will be here in terms of evidence today?— it is resuming. what will be here in terms of evidence today? there will be a lot of attention _ terms of evidence today? there will be a lot of attention on _ terms of evidence today? there will be a lot of attention on it _ terms of evidence today? there will be a lot of attention on it in - terms of evidence today? there will be a lot of attention on it in a i be a lot of attention on it in a week where developments have moved quickly after years of very slow
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progress. we have heard that the prime minister will introduce swift new laws to overturn all remaining convictions as well as giving compensation to the victims of the scandal. there will be a lot of attention on proceedings in the inquiry today. it has been hearing evidence since february 2022. in the current phase it is focusing specifically on the action taken against those sub—postmasters. today it sounds —— it will hear evidence from one of the former investigators, part of the team whose work led to hundreds of those sub—postmasters around the uk being prosecuted and convicted for crimes they didn't commit. i haven't got that money, and i don't know where it's gone. jo hamilton, the sub—postmistress portrayed in the recent itv drama, has played a key role in the fight for justice. she told bbc breakfast her story back in march 2020. 1a times i had to plead guilty. you just wanted to scream. i'd been told that i had to look like i was sorry, and... ..erm, and ijust
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couldn't explain it. the whole thing was crazy. and two days later, a powerful committee of mps promised they'd investigate. we will be launching an inquiry next week to try and get some answers, and to try and get some justice for people like seema and jo, but hundreds of others in the same position. that was four years ago. do you remember how you felt when the announcement of the mps' inquiry was made live on breakfast? wow, it's so exciting. at least somebody somewhere is taking it seriously, you know, which, up until then nobody was really listening. that mps' inquiry led to the bigger public inquiry that resumes today. a statutory public inquiry like this one is a big deal. it has the full backing of the law to make witnesses attend and face questions, even if they don't want to. it can't punish anyone, but it can point the finger where it thinks people and organisations have failed or acted badly.
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and ultimately, it's about getting to the truth of what really happened and who was involved. and that matters, as one wronglyjailed branch manager told us on yesterday's bbc breakfast special. you're going to the inquiry, are you? lam, yes. what will you be telling the inquiry? i'm not. i'm actually watching one of my investigators, who helped send me to prison. to hear them give evidence? give evidence, yeah, tomorrow. and what are you expecting to hear? what do you want to hear? what do you need to hear? i've brought a notepad just to write down, "i don't recall", "i don't remember". i'm going to calculate just to see how many times he says it. how important is it to see the post office's own investigators be quizzed and appear before the inquiry? well, i personally found it very cathartic. i enjoyed watching them squirm a bit. and i think it's good for you to see them put on the rack, just like we were put on the rack in the crown court, because i know how it felt when he was round here at the house accusing me.
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mr speaker, this is one of the greatest miscarriages ofjustice in our nation's history. the prime minister's now announced a new law that will overturn all remaining convictions, and the 555 postmasters who took the post office to the high court in 2019, and won, will get an upfront payment of £75,000. they have lost everything. they've lost houses, livelihoods, shops, businesses. you know, it's — to think that £75,000 is actually enough, to an average member of the public, they would think that's a lot of money. but actually, when you look at what people have lost, it's absolutely nothing, you know. i think they missed the nought off the end personally. well, if you want to hear more from janet skinner and thousand nine sub—postmasters in that bbc
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breakfast special it is available on the bbc iplayer. when you follow the proceedings going on in there today you will hear detailed questions, complicated legal language at times. at times it may seem confusing. just remember at the heart of this is one simple aim. to get to the truth about what happened. about how and why the state owned post office used its power over two decades to relentlessly pursue hundreds of innocent men and women, leading to many of them losing their businesses, homes, reputations, in some cases their liberty, and even their lives. that is why what is happening in their today matters so much to all of them. of course. ben, thank you. we are going to be talking to two former sub—postmistress is later in the programme to get their stories. one of them will be at the inquiry. it is eight minutes past eight. charlie
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is eight minutes past eight. charlie is focusing on targets, nhs targets. in an election year it is all the more important for the political parties trying to set out their stall in terms of how they tackle them. the question is how you measure how the nhs is performing. one of those ways is with targets. almost all key nhs targets in the uk have been missed for seven years or more across the uk. analysis by bbc news focused on three key hospital targets — a&e, cancer care, and planned proceedures. it found that northern ireland and wales have never met the four—hour a&e waiting—time goal. all four nations said plans were in place to improve. researchers at oxford university say the death—rate among pregnant women and new mothers rose, during the pandemic, to its highest level in nearly two decades. thrombosis, or blood clots in the veins, was the most common cause of death, with heart disease and poor mental health also common. the department of health says "last year, nhs england published
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a three—year plan to make maternity and neonatal care safer and more equitable". labour has unveiled its health plan for children, which includes more dental care and a crackdown onjunk food adverts. our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman, has been looking at this. that is what matters, ultimately, in these things. i suppose money matters but then just how you intend to make change that works? that’s to make change that works? that's riuht. to make change that works? that's right- also. — to make change that works? that's right. also, what _ to make change that works? that's right. also, what you _ to make change that works? that's right. also, what you are _ to make change that works? that's right. also, what you are going i to make change that works? that's right. also, what you are going to. right. also, what you are going to hear a lot of it is political mud slinging. sir keir starmer has been out this morning getting ahead of that, saying he knows the conservatives are going to call him and his party nanny state for what they are proposing here, but he is basically saying, bring that on, bring that charge on, because he thinks these are the right things to do. what are they proposing? the
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thing most likely to get nanny state accusations going is their policy on tooth—brushing. they want a new national programme of tooth—brushing for three to five—year—olds. they say toothpick pay is one of the biggest causes of hospitalisation for children. —— tooth decay. we heard from wes streeting earlier on other reasons why they are pushing for it. some schools are already doing it. thrat's— some schools are already doing it. that's why — some schools are already doing it. that's why we have jumped on it. in fact, _ that's why we have jumped on it. in fact, one _ that's why we have jumped on it. in fact, one of— that's why we have jumped on it. in fact, one of the approaches i have taken _ fact, one of the approaches i have taken to— fact, one of the approaches i have taken to labour pass health policy more _ taken to labour pass health policy more generally is to look at things that are _ more generally is to look at things that are working well in exceptional cases— that are working well in exceptional cases and _ that are working well in exceptional cases and say, how do we take that from _ cases and say, how do we take that from being — cases and say, how do we take that from being the exceptional case to being _ from being the exceptional case to being the — from being the exceptional case to being the everywhere case? how do we make sure _ being the everywhere case? how do we make sure this happens everywhere. ——7 make sure this happens everywhere. "7 what _ make sure this happens everywhere. ——? what happens is what works, one of the mantras of the new labour era. that is the kind of argument wes streeting is making. what else are they looking at? well, as he was telling you a little earlier, they
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are looking at banning the advertising ofjunk food to advertising of junk food to children, advertising ofjunk food to children, focusing notjust on linear television, which many of us watch, but also digital television, catch—up television, things like that. also, some discussion of banning the sale of flavoured vapes. keir starmer singh this morning you can't tell me that a bubble vape is designed for a 30—year—old man. —— saying this morning. this is about regulation. i think we are getting a clue as to what a labour government in financially straitened times might look like. henry, thank you. the us secretary of state, antony blinken, says the white house supports "tangible steps" towards the creation of a palestinian state but it must exist alongside israel. mr blinken said more needed to be done to protect civilians. it comes as the world health organization has appealed to israel to allow more aid into the gaza strip saying it's become almost impossible to reach those in need.
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the un security council has demanded an immediate end to attacks on ships in the red sea by iran—backed houthi rebels in yemen. it comes after a british warship, the hms diamond, shot down seven drones in the region. the un resolution endorsed the right of member states to defend their vessels. the last debate between republicans vying to challengejoe biden in november's us presidential election has taken place. donald trump didn't take part. the candidates are hoping to reduce his big lead in the polls before party members in iowa vote for their preferred candidate. chris christie, the most vocal anti—trump candidate, has pulled out of the race. 13 minutes past eight. matt is taking a look at the weather. frosty. these sunrisess and sunsets are stunning at this time of the year.
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exactly. when it is cold it emphasises the colours more. not everywhere this morning. but look at this. what a start to the day in kent. frost on the ground. the sun about to come over the horizon. temperatures overnight dropped as low as minus 5,—6. still -5 dropped as low as minus 5,—6. still —5 in gout hurst. similar in the west of scotland. the blue colours look more confined. most of us frost free. we have got temperatures in eastern northern ireland around six orseven eastern northern ireland around six or seven celsius. that is because we have the cloud. not as thick as yesterday. that has many showers. the cloud is there across northern scotland, northern england, extended through parts of wales, the midlands, eventually the south—east later after the sunny start. a fair bit of cloud in northern ireland. sunny spells will break through in scotland later and towards the south—west and the channel islands the sunshine will continue. a breeze here and there. it doesn't have as
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much about as recently. not quite as cold, even if still a chilly six to eight celsius. into tonight, we are going to see the cloud across england and wales push towards the south—west. brief frost this evening, then temperatures should rise. scotland and northern ireland, dense patches of fog into tomorrow morning. a widespread and sharp frost. temperatures as low as —8. not as cold across england and wales. tomorrow some of the fog could linger in scotland and northern ireland. that is where the brightest of the weather will be. thrust into the weekend. colder into sunday with some snow. thank you. throughout this week, we've been hearing from many of the sub—postmasters who were wrongly prosecuted by the post office because of a faulty it system. among them is hashmukh shingadia. his post office, in bucklebury in berkshire, was used by the princess of wales when she was growing up nearby and he even got an invitation to her wedding.
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but his life was torn apart after he was prosecuted, as breakfast�*s john maguire explains. spend any time in hasmukh shingadia's village shop in berkshire, and like hundreds of other former postmasters up and down the uk, you understand why they're called a pillar of the community. special treat after first day back. how are the girls? they're fine, thank you. in common with those hundreds, ne was also accused of theft and hounded by the post office after accounting failures with the malfunctioning horizon computer system. they were dark days. it was hard. really, really hard. we went through some really bad times. and at times, as i said, i had suicidal thoughts. what kept you going? what kept you fighting? fighting was to put myself right at some point and also for the sake of my family. i couldn't let them down. it wasn't their fault. so why should i do something which would hurt them any further? the princess of wales was brought up here. hash and his wife were invited
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to william and kate's wedding. herfamily were among those who supported him. others, though, turned their backs. a lot of people shunned, not only the community, but also members of my own family as well. but luckily, there were other people who stood by me, especially a very good friend of mine who went around to get some petitions signed, which were then presented to the court at the time of my conviction. and the judge was impressed. he said, "i'd never seen anything likse like this before" and said it would be a crime to send me to prison. hash had been a magistrate but was in the dock himself, accused of stealing money from the post office. he was given a suspended sentence and ordered to do almost 200 hours of community service. that conviction was overturned nine years later. i've declared my cash, i've declared my stock. i've done it all three times and i still can't get it to balance. now, thanks to the phenomenal success of itv�*s drama about the scandal, he welcomes
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the prime minister's pledge to exonerate the others falsely accused and convicted. overjoyed for not only for myself, but for the other subpostmasters who've been waiting for so long to have their conviction overturned. and at last they'll be able to hold their heads up high and able to look at society and say, listen, here we are. it's now been quashed. the village shop is, of course, no longer a post office and his customers are fully aware of what he's been through. we had a party when when the conviction was overturned, there was a big party and celebration. here in the shop. so yeah, it's been really, really awful for all involved. misfortune for them. but i mean, hopefully- the government will sort it out and get their money back. yeah, but what's happened to them in the past, - it's just totally disgusting.
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so now if you re—enter everything, it'll balance. ok, this is so helpful. thank you. don't go away. stay with me till i've done it. apologies, exoneration, compensation, although decades late, are all welcome. but as the itv drama highlights, hash says what remains is the search for properjustice and ultimately the truth. john maguire, bbc news, berkshire. we're joined now by former sub—postmistress seema misra. good sub—postmistress seema misra. morning to you. c of good morning to you. can i ask first of all how you are feeling now that this has come out? we had the announcement yesterday from rishi sunak and some details from the government. we have had the drama as well. now the inquiry is resuming. there is a lot going on. how are you? there is a lot going on. how are ou? �* ., ., there is a lot going on. how are ou? �* ., ., ., ., there is a lot going on. how are ou? �* ., ., ., , ,, there is a lot going on. how are ou?�* ., ., , you? i'm good and i am happy is auoin all you? i'm good and i am happy is going all in _ you? i'm good and i am happy is going all in the _ you? i'm good and i am happy is going all in the right _ you? i'm good and i am happy is
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going all in the right direction. i going all in the right direction. when you say in the right direction, what do you see almost as a conclusion to that? does it come down to compensation? does it come down to compensation? does it come down to compensation? does it come down to the public exoneration? tie. down to the public exoneration? no, it is basically — down to the public exoneration? tho, it is basically everything, to be honest. now at least more and more people are coming forward. there are so many stories which we knew and now they are coming in the media. it is good. the people need to know what kind of system we were living in. what things need sorting out. that is the main thing. i in. what things need sorting out. that is the main thing.— in. what things need sorting out. that is the main thing. i know your sto . that is the main thing. i know your story- many _ that is the main thing. i know your story- many people _ that is the main thing. i know your story. many people won't - that is the main thing. i know your story. many people won't know- that is the main thing. i know your. story. many people won't know your story. many people won't know your story. can we go back to before 2010, when us postmistress working in the post office. —— you were so postmistress. the numbers weren't adding up. what was happening? i took over the post office in 2005, screaming for help from day one. i was told, we have so many post
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offices, they are doing fine, it is just yours you are —— we are having issues with. they made me feel like the dumbest person on the planet trying to sort it out. but in 2010 i was not guilty for the theft charges, because why should i plead guilty to a crime i didn't commit? thejury came back guilty to a crime i didn't commit? the jury came back with a crime of guilty. i was sentenced to eight weeks pregnant. you guilty. i was sentenced to eight weeks pregnant.— guilty. i was sentenced to eight weeks pregnant. you have whizzed throuuh weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that- _ weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that. i— weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that. i would _ weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that. i would imagine i weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that. i would imagine it i weeks pregnant. you have whizzed through that. i would imagine it is| through that. i would imagine it is something you have made —— said many times. how much were you accused of losing? or maybe even stealing? yeah, despite me putting money in a sort of everyday, they charged me for £80,000.— sort of everyday, they charged me for £80,000. , ., , ., ., ., for £80,000. this was after an audit found a short — for £80,000. this was after an audit found a short fold. _ for £80,000. this was after an audit found a short fold. you _ for £80,000. this was after an audit found a short fold. you had - for £80,000. this was after an audit found a short fold. you had been i found a short fold. you had been told, only you, you are the only one with a problem, according to the post office, is that correct? correct. ., ., ., ~ , ., correct. how did that make you feel? what was going _
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correct. how did that make you feel? what was going through _ correct. how did that make you feel? what was going through your- correct. how did that make you feel? what was going through your mind i what was going through your mind when you are doing yourjob, talking to yourfamily, talking when you are doing yourjob, talking to your family, talking to other members of staff, and thinking, what is going on here? how did that make you feel? i is going on here? how did that make ou feel? ,., ., is going on here? how did that make ou feel? ., , , you feel? i felt so down because the said you feel? i felt so down because they said they — you feel? i felt so down because they said they have _ you feel? i felt so down because they said they have so _ you feel? i felt so down because they said they have so many i you feel? i felt so down because i they said they have so many other post office is doing fine, it was me having the issue. they were trying to sort it out. went on individual tails so they could need which staff member needs extra training. they gave me a warning. they said, any time you are £500 short... i was trying to see but it never happened. i had to put money in. it affected my confidence. it was rock bottom. i felt really bad. i couldn't even run the post office. i am educated. i was like, what have i done wrong? i can't be that dumb that somebody asks me for £10 and i give them £10,000. i was working until the
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early hours of the morning trying to work out what went wrong. figs early hours of the morning trying to work out what went wrong.- work out what went wrong. as you said, it work out what went wrong. as you said. it was _ work out what went wrong. as you said. it was on _ work out what went wrong. as you said, it was on your— work out what went wrong. as you said, it was on your sun _ work out what went wrong. as you said, it was on your sun pass i work out what went wrong. as you | said, it was on your sun pass tenth birthday when you were sentenced to 15 months in prison for theft. —— it was your son's tenth birthday. you are pregnant. you wanted to present. what was that experience? —— you were pregnant. iii what was that experience? -- you were pregnant-— were pregnant. if i wouldn't be reanant were pregnant. if i wouldn't be pregnant i _ were pregnant. if i wouldn't be pregnant i would _ were pregnant. if i wouldn't be pregnant i would have - were pregnant. if i wouldn't be pregnant i would have killed i were pregnant. if i wouldn't be i pregnant i would have killed myself because i gave a burden to my family been to prison. the youngest one kept me alive and the eldest one kept me alive and the eldest one kept my husband alive. it was really bad. i neverthought kept my husband alive. it was really bad. i never thought! kept my husband alive. it was really bad. i never thought i would come out alive from there.— bad. i never thought i would come out alive from there. when did you come out and _ out alive from there. when did you come out and when _ out alive from there. when did you come out and when did _ out alive from there. when did you come out and when did you - out alive from there. when did you come out and when did you give i come out and when did you give birth? i come out and when did you give birth? .., ., a, . come out and when did you give birth? ., . , ., birth? i came out in march. due to aood birth? i came out in march. due to good behaviour— birth? i came out in march. due to good behaviour they _ birth? i came out in march. due to good behaviour they released i birth? i came out in march. due to good behaviour they released me | birth? i came out in march. due to i good behaviour they released me on a tag. i gave birth with a tag on. each and every happy moment of my life since 2005, the post office ruined it. ~' .,
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life since 2005, the post office ruined it. ~ ., , , ., , ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing _ ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing effect _ ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing effect for _ ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing effect for you. - ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing effect for you. as i ruined it. ok. i know this still has an ongoing effect for you. as you | an ongoing effect for you. as you seen all the events unfold, what do you think, what do you want to see happen next, for you and in general in terms of compensation, in terms of your name? as you said, your family name. of your name? as you said, your family name-— of your name? as you said, your family name. of your name? as you said, your famil name. ., . , ., ., ., family name. correct, yeah. i have a list. ifi family name. correct, yeah. i have a list- if i was — family name. correct, yeah. i have a list. if i was to _ family name. correct, yeah. i have a list. if i was to summarise _ family name. correct, yeah. i have a list. if i was to summarise it - family name. correct, yeah. i have a list. if i was to summarise it i i list. if i was to summarise it i would definitely want everybody from the royal now, i know they are separate now, but for me they are the same, royal mail, post office, each and every person who knew, people who signed, the new horizon was corrupted but they still let it into the post office, each and every person needs to come and answer, they need to go behind the bar. i know it is hard but we need to confiscate their property like they did my property and distribute the money among the postmasters. that is one of these things. i have a whole list! i
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one of these things. i have a whole list! .., one of these things. i have a whole list! .. , ., ., .., list! i can understand and i can understand _ list! i can understand and i can understand the _ list! i can understand and i can understand the strength i list! i can understand and i can understand the strength of i list! i can understand and i can. understand the strength of what list! i can understand and i can i understand the strength of what you want. have you been told if you are receiving compensation? are you currently waiting for compensation? currently waiting for the compensation.— currently waiting for the compensation. currently waiting for the comensation. i, , compensation. have you been given an idea of compensation. have you been given any idea of how _ compensation. have you been given any idea of how much _ compensation. have you been given any idea of how much that - compensation. have you been given any idea of how much that might. compensation. have you been given. any idea of how much that might be? no. ~ . ' . ., , no. what difference, if any, will it make to your— no. what difference, if any, will it make to your life? _ no. what difference, if any, will it make to your life? we _ no. what difference, if any, will it make to your life? we can't - no. what difference, if any, will it make to your life? we can't turn l no. what difference, if any, will it l make to your life? we can't turn the clock back- — make to your life? we can't turn the clock back. we _ make to your life? we can't turn the clock back. we can't _ make to your life? we can't turn the clock back. we can't take _ make to your life? we can't turn the clock back. we can't take back - make to your life? we can't turn the clock back. we can't take back our i clock back. we can't take back our time with the family. but it gives back peace of mind. it would give us a proper hope that we can go ahead and everything. but the fight will be still on to have properjustice for everybody. be still on to have proper 'ustice for everybodvfi be still on to have proper 'ustice for everybody. be still on to have proper 'ustice for eve bod . ,, ., ., ~ for everybody. seema, thank you so much for sharing _ for everybody. seema, thank you so much for sharing your _ for everybody. seema, thank you so much for sharing your experience. l much for sharing your experience. good luck with the proceedings as they continue. seema misra, former sub postmistress and victim of the post office it scandal. and we can speak now tojo hamilton, who was also wrongly convicted based
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on evidence which came from the faulty horizon it system. good morning. i know you are going to be at the inquiry today. what is it that compels you to want to be there in the room?— it that compels you to want to be there in the room? well, i'm pretty much here — there in the room? well, i'm pretty much here every — there in the room? well, i'm pretty much here every week _ there in the room? well, i'm pretty much here every week anyway. - there in the room? well, i'm pretty much here every week anyway. i i there in the room? well, i'm pretty. much here every week anyway. i have been following it because i feel my journey won't be over until i see the end of this. but, yeah, it's really fantastic that the group has got us here. but i think they have almost got lost in all the excitement of all the announcements yesterday because the group of sub—postmasters who have enabled all of this, have still not been properly compensated. they offered £75,000, which might be enough for some of the people who had tiny claims, but i think the bulk of those 500 people, it will not be
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enough, and so the journey goes on, which i find absolutely awful. why can they not give the group closure? we have the group litigation which we won in 2019, and they are still trying to get money from the post office. , .,, , .,, trying to get money from the post office. , , .,, ., �* trying to get money from the post office. , , ~ ., office. help those people don't know the story inside _ office. help those people don't know the story inside out. _ office. help those people don't know the story inside out. you _ office. help those people don't know the story inside out. you do, - office. help those people don't know the story inside out. you do, of- the story inside out. you do, of course, because this is your life. can you explain how that £75,000 figure you mentioned is the one that is being offered to you and other members of your group, but people will be aware there is another figure, the £600,000 sum of money — can you explain how it is that one is vital and not the other? the u-rou is vital and not the other? the a-rou of is vital and not the other? tue: group of sub—postmasters, me included, is one of the criminalised ones, we had tojoin what included, is one of the criminalised ones, we had to join what they called the overturned convictions scheme. they helped us out of the 555 and we have access to criminal
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compensation. i have had some. which, to be honest, is life changing. the people in the group that are left fighting for compensation, it really doesn't mean very much to them because they have not had access — well, they've had access to virtually nothing so far. 0.5% of those 500 people have had any kind of money. t 0.5% of those 500 people have had any kind of money.— 0.596 of those 500 people have had any kind of money. i don't know and ou can any kind of money. i don't know and you can tell— any kind of money. i don't know and you can tell me... _ any kind of money. i don't know and you can tell me... it— any kind of money. i don't know and you can tell me... it is— any kind of money. i don't know and you can tell me... it is difficult - you can tell me... it is difficult to understand! _ you can tell me. .. it is difficult to understand! i— you can tell me. .. it is difficult to understand! i think- you can tell me... it is difficult to understand! i think that - you can tell me... it is difficultj to understand! i think that was you can tell me... it is difficult l to understand! i think that was a aood to understand! i think that was a good explanation. _ to understand! i think that was a good explanation. can _ to understand! i think that was a good explanation. can i - to understand! i think that was a good explanation. can i ask- to understand! i think that was a good explanation. can i ask you | to understand! i think that was a . good explanation. can i ask you one more thing? i know you say you have beenin more thing? i know you say you have been in the room for a lot of the inquiry. i understand today that one of the former post office investigators is going to be questioned. and i would imagine, given what he went through and how crucial to all of this those mistakes, or what happened in terms of the it, hearing what one of those
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post office investigators is saying, will be very, very important, both important in terms of the investigation and your emotions and what happened to you? yes. investigation and your emotions and what happened to you?— investigation and your emotions and what happened to you? yes. i am here on behalf of— what happened to you? yes. i am here on behalf of a — what happened to you? yes. i am here on behalf of a couple _ what happened to you? yes. i am here on behalf of a couple of _ what happened to you? yes. i am here on behalf of a couple of friends. - on behalf of a couple of friends. this was their investigator. a lot of the time they say they can't remember. 50 the bulk of it is, i don't recall, which we know. but it is quite nice to be here because you see the body language. it's nice to see the body language. it's nice to see them squirm a bit. t’m see the body language. it's nice to see them squirm a bit.— see them squirm a bit. i'm sure --eole see them squirm a bit. i'm sure peeple will— see them squirm a bit. i'm sure people will understand - see them squirm a bit. i'm sure people will understand you - see them squirm a bit. i'm sure l people will understand you saying that. can i take you back to that time when you eventually pleaded guilty to something that you knew you hadn't done? i suppose in many ways that is what it boils down to, that you ended up in a situation
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where you admitted something you knew you didn't do? the where you admitted something you knew you didn't do?— knew you didn't do? the only ever charued knew you didn't do? the only ever charged me _ knew you didn't do? the only ever charged me with _ knew you didn't do? the only ever charged me with theft _ knew you didn't do? the only ever charged me with theft in - knew you didn't do? the only ever charged me with theft in the - charged me with theft in the beginning. —— they only ever charged me. we got right to trial and they said if you plead guilty to false accounting we will drop the theft. and at the time, 20 years ago, we didn't really know what was happening. i had no idea anybody else was having any problems. i was technically thought i might be guilty of false accounting because i had given up phoning the help desk and was signing off accounts that i knew weren't right because i was already paying back tens of thousands of pounds to them. so i felt i had no choice but to plead guilty. because basically i was terrified of going to prison. but i was really lucky because the village turned up in court to support me and i was actually spared prison. me i was actually spared prison. we very much _ i was actually spared prison. we very much appreciate your time today. i know you are just about to go into the inquiry when it starts later this morning. thank you for your time this morning. that isjo
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hamilton, another of those former sub postmistress is caught up in that scandal. they will be attending the testimony today one of the post office investigators, one of those who carried out the original investigations. yesterday we had a special programme on breakfast on the scandal. you can watch that again. we had nine former sub—postmasters who told us their stories, and also a conversation with the minister who has been looking into this and we put their questions. jon and sarah were fronting that. that is available on the bbc iplayer. morning live follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. let's find out what they have in store with sara and gethin. who is out today? it is like that thing in playschool, shall we look through the round window, the triangle...? what are you suggesting, charlie? i am not saying it is children's
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there is only one winner there. good luck, _ there is only one winner there. good luck. reece — thank you. very competitive. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are. a very good morning and welcome to bbc london, i'm thomas magill. the friend of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept says her death could have been prevented. sofia duarte who died last year, would have been celebrating her 23rd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition organised by her friend and family, which is backed by london fire brigade, calling for tighter regulations for electric bikes and their batteries.
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it could be preventable. if we can change the law it means that her death was not in vain. because at the moment that is how we feel. every person that dies because of an e—bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time. a north london hospital could have its mortuary expanded to tackle a growing need for storage. brent mortuary, at northwick park hospital, is running out of space due to more deaths being investigated and increases in the length of stay for deceased people. in 2021, a human tissue authority audit found the site no longer met its requirement for "sufficient storage". a london busker is hoping to play his guitar outside every london underground station to raise money for charity.
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# still ain't got the truth yet.# singer dan tredget hopes to be the first person in history to busk at all 272 stations, whilst raising money for the homeless charity glassdoor. it's all been such a surprising kind of experience. you just never know what you're going to get and you never know really what to expect from each station. initially, i thought going into zone i would be the best, like, going to places like leicester square. but, in the end, it's places in the outer zones that have been the most fun and the most generous. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's severe delays on the central. now onto the weather with kate. good morning. another cold start with temperatures widely down below zero. it is dry though, it is sunny, but we will see more cloud sinking south through the afternoon. clear skies last night, therefore the sunshine first thing. high pressure still in charge, so it is dry. some slightly less cold air bringing in some moisture. so turning cloudy through the day. temperatures somewhere between four and six celsius. we have still got the
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north—easterly breeze, so temperatures likely to feel colder. overnight we will hang onto this cloud. again, staying dry. the wind lighter, but the temperature as a result of the cloud will not drop so low, between three to five celsius, the minimum temperature. staying in single figures. tomorrow we hang onto the cloud through friday. again, largely dry, one or two brighter spells potentially. could get a spot of drizzle in the cloud, but, like i said, should stay largely dry. the wind a little lighter. as we head through the weekend, the temperatures start to drop again. a couple of fronts introducing colder air once again into next week. that's it from me — there's more on the bbc news app and on bbc radio london. i'll be back in half an hour. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty.
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it is 8:37am. the family of a young woman who lost her life after an e—bike caught fire whilst she slept, say they don't want her death to be in vain. sofia duarte, who died last year, would have been celebrating her 23rd birthday today. more than 30,000 people have signed a petition, backed by london fire brigade, which calls for tighter regulations for electric bikes and batteries, as tim muffett reports. she's my sunshine. she's the best for me. she enjoy her free time. and it's very difficult to live without her. sofia was staying at her boyfriend's flat in london. on new year's day last year, a bike, that had been converted into an e—bike, caught fire in the flat hallway. she die one metre near the door. i think it's a dream.
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and i think she stay here. and when i wake up, she's not here. now, i'm missing so much. she was lovely. she just loved life so, so much. she kept saying to her mum, "i'll have time to sleep when i die". make sure that her name still carry on. sofia was 21 when she died. today would have been her 23rd birthday. her mum, maria, and friend alda, set up a petition last month, calling for urgent action from the government to implement regulations on e—bikes and e—scooters, and the batteries and chargers sold with them. if we can change the law, it means that her death was not in vain. because, at the moment, that's how we feel. every person that dies because of an e—bike fire, it's like we have to live the nightmare we felt at that time. e—scooters and e—bikes can be an environmentally friendly, safe way of getting about. they're powered by lithium ion batteries, which contain
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a large amount of energy in a small space. but if a cell in a faulty battery heats up uncontrollably, this can happen — thermal runaway, demonstrated here in a lab. the owner of this electric bike was lucky to escape unharmed. in cambridge, last summer, gemma germeney and her children, lilly and oliver died in a fire caused by a faulty e—bike battery. her partner, scott, was badly burned, but managed to escape the blaze. i screamed, "gemma, the kids, pass me the kids". and i heard a voice from her saying, "i can't get out." as well as tougher enforcement of quality control and safety standards, the petition is also calling for clearer guidance on safe handling and potential dangers. this could be preventable. if people knew the dangers,
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they wouldn't leave the bike at the entrance, blocking the exit, so people can't get out. that's exactly what happened with sofia. last year in london, the number of fires involving e—bikes and e—scooters went up by 60% compared to the year before. there was a fire on average every two days. have you been surprised by how many people have signed this petition? yeah, very. almost 32,000 in five and a half weeks. 100,000 people — it is what is required to be taking into the parliament. do something. prevent this death. make sure that she didn't die in vain. we can speak now to assistant commissioner for fire safety charlie pugsley, who joins us now from the london fire brigade headquarters. charlie, thank you very much for
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your time this morning. i know the organisation is very much backing, we heard from sofia duarte's family, you are calling for more awareness and for people to be more careful. yes, good morning and thank you. our thoughts are obviously with sofia's family and everyone affected by these incidents. we welcome this petition to raise many of the concerns that many of us have. t concerns that many of us have. i notice behind you you have a number of electric items. i am not sure what you can do with your camera, but if it can go closer, maybe you can describe, these are items that have caused fires in the past. on the left, what has happened, what do you know about that? we the left, what has happened, what do you know about that?— you know about that? we have an examle you know about that? we have an example of— you know about that? we have an example of an _ you know about that? we have an example of an e-scooter, - you know about that? we have an example of an e-scooter, the - you know about that? we have an example of an e-scooter, the fire| example of an e—scooter, the fire has melted the metal because it was
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so intense. when these fires start, they produce flammable and toxic gas that can be explosive and it can develop into such a short period of time, this is why they are so dangerous. if something can melt through metal in a matter of seconds, if that fire starts in your home, you have very little time to escape and try to get out. what home, you have very little time to escape and try to get out. what can ou know escape and try to get out. what can you know about _ escape and try to get out. what can you know about the _ escape and try to get out. what can you know about the circumstances? maybe you don't know about those particular items, but what about the circumstances that led to the fire starting? circumstances that led to the fire startin: ? �* .., . circumstances that led to the fire startinu? �* , ., , starting? because of the high number of fires we are — starting? because of the high number of fires we are seeing, _ starting? because of the high number of fires we are seeing, the _ starting? because of the high number of fires we are seeing, the common i of fires we are seeing, the common themes we are getting are either second—hand batteries or chargers not been for the right battery pack or people buying online from a marketplace but the product could be counterfeit for not meeting safety standards, that is the three common things we are seeing causing these fires to start and we just need more
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to be done to actually try to reduce the risk for what is essentially another option for people to get around in a green way.— another option for people to get around in a green way. charlie, we can show some — around in a green way. charlie, we can show some pictures _ around in a green way. charlie, we can show some pictures to - around in a green way. charlie, we can show some pictures to people | around in a green way. charlie, we i can show some pictures to people at home, you won't be able to see them here but you will be familiar of the kind of things we are talking about comedy moments caught on camera and this is in a hallway, isn't it? what is so terrifying is the speed of the explosion —— talking about, moments caught on. there is a gentleman and then nothing is happening and then suddenly an explosion.— then nothing is happening and then suddenly an explosion. sadly, i have seen these clips _ suddenly an explosion. sadly, i have seen these clips several— suddenly an explosion. sadly, i have seen these clips several times - suddenly an explosion. sadly, i have seen these clips several times and i | seen these clips several times and i have also seen the aftermath of these terrible fires and it is literally like a petrol fire. it is so quick, so explosive. if you can imagine that rather than being in a common hallway, that was in the hallway, your exit route, you would have so little chance to get out safely. that is part of the reason
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our charge a safe campaign is trying to give good advice to people on how to give good advice to people on how to store and charge these products —— charge safe. to store and charge these products -- charge safe-— -- charge safe. please go through some of that _ -- charge safe. please go through some of that advice, _ -- charge safe. please go through some of that advice, take - -- charge safe. please go through some of that advice, take us - -- charge safe. please go through i some of that advice, take us through the key elements to keep yourself as safe as you can. qt the key elements to keep yourself as safe as you can-— safe as you can. of course, i will t to safe as you can. of course, i will try to keep _ safe as you can. of course, i will try to keep it _ safe as you can. of course, i will try to keep it brief _ safe as you can. of course, i will try to keep it brief because - safe as you can. of course, i will. try to keep it brief because people can go to #chargesafe to get the details. buy from a reputable seller and buyerfrom a uk based supplier if you are buying online. always make sure you buy the right battery charger for the battery, otherwise you massively increase the risk of fire. when you are charging or storing your e—scooter and if you can't do it because of the shared housing, don't charge it in an escape route. make sure you have a smoke alarm so if a fire starts and you are charging it somewhere with
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the door shut, you will get an early alert. the video you saw of the rapidly developing fire, that shows how little time you have got, you want to make sure your exit routes are clear and you have a means of detecting a fire if one starts. me detecting a fire if one starts. we appreciate your time, charlie, the assistant commissioner for safety, thank you very much.— assistant commissioner for safety, j thank you very much._ it thank you very much. thank you. it is 8:45am — it's been 70 years since the first weather forecast was broadcast on telly. things have changed a little bit! do you think for the better? i think so! there is the question! the first one of you was meteorologist george cowling. one of you was meteorologist george cowlinr. . :: one of you was meteorologist george cowlin-. , :: , ., , one of you was meteorologist george cowlin.. , 11, ., ., one of you was meteorologist george cowlinr. , ii, ., ., , one of you was meteorologist george cowlin.. , 11, ., ., , , cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very da . what cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very day- what is — cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very day- what is he _ cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very day. what is he doing? _ cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very day. what is he doing? drawing - cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very day. what is he doing? drawing up | cowling. yes, 70 years ago this very j day. what is he doing? drawing up a weather chart. _ day. what is he doing? drawing up a weather chart. they _ day. what is he doing? drawing up a weather chart. they drew _ day. what is he doing? drawing up a weather chart. they drew the - day. what is he doing? drawing up a. weather chart. they drew the weather in vision using charcoal and crayon. they earned their money, didn't they! absolutely! matt, can you tell
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whether your expertise now, what is going on on that day? 1954, 70 years ago today. the going on on that day? 1954, 70 years auo toda . ., ., going on on that day? 1954, 70 years auotoda . ., ., ago today. the weather front was -aushin ago today. the weather front was pushing north. — ago today. the weather front was pushing north. a _ ago today. the weather front was pushing north, a warm _ ago today. the weather front was pushing north, a warm front, - ago today. the weather front was . pushing north, a warm front, getting milderfrom the day pushing north, a warm front, getting milder from the day before and some rain or drizzle but around western coasts cloudy and damp. ihe rain or drizzle but around western coasts cloudy and damp. he is good, isn't he? as — coasts cloudy and damp. he is good, isn't he? as a _ coasts cloudy and damp. he is good, isn't he? as a meteorologist, - coasts cloudy and damp. he is good, isn't he? as a meteorologist, i - coasts cloudy and damp. he is good, isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can i isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand — isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand that _ isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand that but _ isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand that but it _ isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand that but it wasn't - isn't he? as a meteorologist, i can understand that but it wasn't until| understand that but it wasn't until another 21 years later that the recognisable weather symbols appeared. recognisable weather symbols a- eared. ~ . recognisable weather symbols a--eared. ~ . ., with later? indeed. and i will have the proper — with later? indeed. and i will have the proper forecast _ with later? indeed. and i will have the proper forecast for _ with later? indeed. and i will have the proper forecast for you - with later? indeed. and i will have the proper forecast for you in - with later? indeed. and i will have the proper forecast for you in a - the proper forecast for you in a short while. but before that, take a look at this. short while. but before that, take a look at this-— look at this. early on today, a woman rang _ look at this. early on today, a woman rang the _ look at this. early on today, a woman rang the bbc- look at this. early on today, a woman rang the bbc and - look at this. early on today, a woman rang the bbc and she | look at this. early on today, a - woman rang the bbc and she said there _ woman rang the bbc and she said there was— woman rang the bbc and she said there was a hurricane on the way but if you _ there was a hurricane on the way but if you are _ there was a hurricane on the way but if you are watching, don't worry! thank_ if you are watching, don't worry! thank you — if you are watching, don't worry! thank you mr fish, but i think you know— thank you mr fish, but i think you know how— thank you mr fish, but i think you know how that goes. the technology and presenting _ know how that goes. the technology and presenting style _ know how that goes. the technology and presenting style has _ know how that goes. the technology and presenting style has changed i know how that goes. the technology and presenting style has changed a l and presenting style has changed a lot since those days but even more so compared to when bbc tv weather forecast began on air 70 years ago.
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george cowling was the first meteorologist to step in front of the camera. and along with tom brought a slightly more informal approach to the forecast. me brought a slightly more informal approach to the forecast. we have been briefed _ approach to the forecast. we have been briefed to _ approach to the forecast. we have been briefed to be _ approach to the forecast. we have been briefed to be a _ approach to the forecast. we have been briefed to be a bit _ approach to the forecast. we have been briefed to be a bit human . approach to the forecast. we have | been briefed to be a bit human and approach to the forecast. we have i been briefed to be a bit human and i mentioned _ been briefed to be a bit human and i mentioned tomorrow— been briefed to be a bit human and i mentioned tomorrow would - been briefed to be a bit human and i mentioned tomorrow would be - been briefed to be a bit human and i mentioned tomorrow would be a - been briefed to be a bit human and i. mentioned tomorrow would be a good day for— mentioned tomorrow would be a good day for hanging — mentioned tomorrow would be a good day for hanging out _ mentioned tomorrow would be a good day for hanging out the _ mentioned tomorrow would be a good day for hanging out the washing. - day for hanging out the washing. this was— day for hanging out the washing. this was something _ day for hanging out the washing. this was something that - day for hanging out the washing. this was something that had - day for hanging out the washing. i this was something that had never been _ this was something that had never been said — this was something that had never been said before _ this was something that had never been said before and _ this was something that had never been said before and the - this was something that had never been said before and the press - been said before and the press really— been said before and the press really took— been said before and the press really took this _ been said before and the press really took this up _ been said before and the press really took this up and - been said before and the press really took this up and thought j been said before and the press - really took this up and thought that was a _ really took this up and thought that was a jolly— really took this up and thought that was a jolly good _ really took this up and thought that was a jolly good thing. _ really took this up and thought that was a jolly good thing. back- really took this up and thought that was a jolly good thing.— was a 'olly good thing. back then, the was a jolly good thing. back then, the forecast _ was a jolly good thing. back then, the forecast came _ was a jolly good thing. back then, the forecast came courtesy - was a jolly good thing. back then, the forecast came courtesy of - was a jolly good thing. back then, the forecast came courtesy of two j the forecast came courtesy of two charts and a lot of charcoal. it wasn't until 1974 before the first female forecaster barbara edwards graced the air. female forecaster barbara edwards graced the air-— graced the air. outbreaks of rain and sleet- _ graced the air. outbreaks of rain and sleet. the _ graced the air. outbreaks of rain and sleet. the following - graced the air. outbreaks of rain and sleet. the following year, i graced the air. outbreaks of rain l and sleet. the following year, the instantly recognisable _ and sleet. the following year, the instantly recognisable weather - instantly recognisable weather symbols that we all love were introduced. but they didn't always behave themselves. filth. introduced. but they didn't always behave themselves.— introduced. but they didn't always . behave themselves._ bleep introduced. but they didn't always - behave themselves._ bleep. behave themselves. oh, dear. bleep. but they became _ behave themselves. oh, dear. bleep. but they became iconic, _ behave themselves. oh, dear. bleep. but they became iconic, like _ behave themselves. oh, dear. bleep. but they became iconic, like some - but they became iconic, like some presenters. some presenters went on to much bigger things. maybe if you
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dry interludes over dumfries house in ayrshire! oh! it was in 1985 when computers and green screen technology change the landscape and the bbc forever. this is where most of what you see on air is produced. so, sarah, what are you up to? well, a lot of things all at once. we're constantly watching the weather here. so i'm looking at the radar to see where it's raining or snowing, watching the satellite to see where the cloud is. and i'm looking at all the computer generated forecasts spat out of supercomputers. so we take all of that information and i'm just building my graphics at the moment. so i think a lot of people don't realise that us presenters actually build our own graphics as well. we make chunks to show anything from temperature, any warnings that are out there, we choose a relevant picture for the day as well. and we sew all these chunks together into this seamless weather show that you see behind us in the studios. and, of course, we're notjust confined to tv studios these days. we can broadcast from anywhere
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in the world on just the strength of a mobile phone, chasing the weather story wherever it's happening, sometimes some more fun than others. it will feel more like below freezing for many parts, especially so in the north west of scotland. i can tell you it's freezing here now. but it's notjust the technology that's changing how we broadcast. it's changing how we forecast, too. a four—day forecast now is more accurate than a one—day forecast was 30 years ago. today, for the first time ever in the uk, somewhere in eastern england could hit 40 celsius plus. now more than ever, we are wanting someone to give us a greater understanding of the reasons behind some of the weather extremes we're experiencing. and it's ourjob to do that while still letting you know if it's a good day to hang the washing out. sometimes professionals like to be left alone to do theirjobs in peace and well. i'm sure it didn't happen
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70 years ago, sometimes presenters get involved and interfere. how do you cope? sometimes you just want to give the forecast? did you cope? sometimes you 'ust want to give the forecast?h give the forecast? did you see how ruickl he give the forecast? did you see how quickly he got _ give the forecast? did you see how quickly he got off _ give the forecast? did you see how quickly he got off the _ give the forecast? did you see how quickly he got off the sofa - give the forecast? did you see how quickly he got off the sofa when i quickly he got off the sofa when this was wheeled out? t’ee quickly he got off the sofa when this was wheeled out? i've never had this was wheeled out? i've never had this opportunity- _ this was wheeled out? i've never had this opportunity. if— this was wheeled out? i've never had this opportunity. if it _ this was wheeled out? i've never had this opportunity. if it is _ this was wheeled out? i've never had this opportunity. if it is good - this opportunity. if it is good enough for king charles! are you going to give me the stickers? istale going to give me the stickers? we will going to give me the stickers? - will share it. ijoined bbc weather 20 years ago. will share it. i 'oined bbc weather 20 years ago.— will share it. i 'oined bbc weather 20 earsauo. ., ., ~ , 20 years ago. back again! laughter old school, it — 20 years ago. back again! laughter old school, it was _ 20 years ago. back again! laughter old school, it was magnets _ 20 years ago. back again! laughter old school, it was magnets rather. old school, it was magnets rather than stickers but bbc breakfast no expense spared. central areas, cloudy spells. put it there. generally central? how is that? best ofthe generally central? how is that? best of the sunshine _ generally central? how is that? err of the sunshine today south west england. of the sunshine today south west en . land. ., , of the sunshine today south west encland. ., , ., ., of the sunshine today south west encland. ., , ., . , ., england. lovely, cornwall, devon? all of the south-west? _ england. lovely, cornwall, devon? all of the south-west? great. - england. lovely, cornwall, devon? all of the south-west? great. and | all of the south-west? great. and then tonight _ all of the south-west? great. and then tonight across _ all of the south-west? great. and then tonight across central- then tonight across central scotland, fog. ok then tonight across central scotland, fog.— then tonight across central scotland, fog. then tonight across central scotland, for. ., ,., ., �* , scotland, fog. ok about here. that's not even sticky! _ scotland, fog. ok about here. that's not even sticky! laughter - not even sticky! laughter i see what you did! tt
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not even sticky! laughter i see what you did!- not even sticky! laughter i see what you did! it is what happened — i see what you did! it is what happened in _ i see what you did! it is what happened in the _ i see what you did! it is what happened in the old - i see what you did! it is what happened in the old days. i i see what you did! it is what i happened in the old days. look i see what you did! it is what - happened in the old days. look at this! he has _ happened in the old days. look at this! he has jammed _ happened in the old days. look at this! he has jammed up _ happened in the old days. look at this! he has jammed up two - happened in the old days. look at this! he has jammed up two of. happened in the old days. look at i this! he has jammed up two of them together, where is that going? that is everything. put together, where is that going? that is everything-— is everything. put it down in the south-east. _ is everything. put it down in the south-east, but _ is everything. put it down in the south-east, but in _ is everything. put it down in the south-east, but in everything. i is everything. put it down in the - south-east, but in everything. there ou co. south-east, but in everything. there you go- this — south-east, but in everything. there you go- this is— south-east, but in everything. there you go- this is a _ south-east, but in everything. there you go. this is a bit _ south-east, but in everything. there you go. this is a bit wobbly! - south-east, but in everything. there you go. this is a bit wobbly! can - south—east, but in everything. there you go. this is a bit wobbly! can we get the professional to do it? charlie, you are off?- get the professional to do it? charlie, you are off? thank you for our charlie, you are off? thank you for your help- — charlie, you are off? thank you for your help- i— charlie, you are off? thank you for your help- iwill— charlie, you are off? thank you for your help. i will give _ charlie, you are off? thank you for your help. i will give you _ charlie, you are off? thank you for your help. i will give you the - charlie, you are off? thank you for your help. i will give you the real. your help. i will give you the real weather with proper graphics. let's go back to new school, the weather watch' shot, something they didn't have 70 years ago —— weather watcher's shot. beautiful but cold. sunshine and a widespread frost this morning. parts of western scotland across east anglia and parts of the south—east but in northern ireland, 7 degrees in the east. the same temperature across much of northern ireland and frost free for many of you. like yesterday, lots more cloud around and a bit more cloud in parts
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of wales and the midlands compared with yesterday which will drift south. taking away the early sunshine from the south east. staying sunny in south—west wales. some brighter breaks across scotland. overall, cloudy day for many. not quite as raw as it has been of late, the breeze still across the east of england and far south—west. that will knock off a few degrees of the feel of things. temperatures close to where we should be for this stage injanuary. this evening and overnight, the cloud across england and wales goes south—west and a brief frost, temperatures will rise later. a touch of frost but northern ireland and scotland as well as dense patches of fog, it will be a much colder night temperatures could drop as low as —7 or —8 to take it into friday morning. coldest tomorrow morning will be the north and the west of the country with a slight change in our high pressure. that is
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keeping things largely dry and good news after the recent floods. pushing south and more of a breeze from the west and south—west, scotland and northern ireland, much more sunshine. there could be some lingering fog patches. temperatures will struggle to get above freezing at all. most will be in too mid—to single figures. england and wales, lots more cloud around, some brighter breaks particularly towards the south—west but a cloudy day, certainly in southern counties. friday will finish with some showers in northern scotland drifting south and in northern england on saturday. saturday, south—eastern parts of the country, lots more sunshine compared with friday and temperatures will have dropped 5 or 6 degrees. sunday, this area of high pressure sneaking away, allowing more weatherfronts to push down across the country and it opens the door to arctic air. we start the day on sunday with cloud, patchy rain or drizzle in southern
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parts of england and wales, brightening later and some showers further north. scotland, the temperatures drop and showers will primarily be snow and look at the afternoon temperatures, two—6. what follows next week will be something much colder by day and night ni-ht and there is a ureater chance night and there is a greater chance of snow. eh!!! night and there is a greater chance of snow. ~ . eh!!! night and there is a greater chance of snow. ~ . . eh!!! night and there is a greater chance of snow. ~ . , ., eh!!! night and there is a greater chance of snow. ~ . , ., , ., mm night and there is a greater chance of snow. ~ . , ., , ., ., of snow. much better on your own, thanks very — of snow. much better on your own, thanks very much. _ of snow. much better on your own, thanks very much. thanks - of snow. much better on your own, thanks very much. thanks for - your help, charlie! 8:54am. when we think of england _ your help, charlie! 8:54am. when we think of england managers, - your help, charlie! 8:54am. when we think of england managers, we - your help, charlie! 8:54am. when we think of england managers, we know| think of england managers, we know them, don't we? you feel like you know the england team's managers and you name one and you can always associate them not necessarily with 18... , , . ., associate them not necessarily with 18... y, ., , 18. .. they become part of the teens. that is certainly _ 18. .. they become part of the teens. that is certainly the _ 18. .. they become part of the teens. that is certainly the case _ 18. .. they become part of the teens. that is certainly the case with - 18. .. they become part of the teens. that is certainly the case with sven l that is certainly the case with sven goran eriksson. th that is certainly the case with sven goran eriksson.— goran eriksson. in charge of the olden goran eriksson. in charge of the golden generation. _ goran eriksson. in charge of the golden generation. he - goran eriksson. in charge of the golden generation. he has - goran eriksson. in charge of the golden generation. he has been telling swedish media he has terminal cancer. we had a hint he was poorly when he left his last job. it is terminal. he is trying to
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be really positive, which must be so hard to do. typical of sven, he transcended football and became more than just the england transcended football and became more thanjust the england manager. one of the most high—profile managers, there was a top 10 single about him which got to number 7, spend, spend, spend. —— sven, sven, sven. sven is now aged 75, and left his lastjob at swedish club karlstad, 1! months ago, due to health issues and has now said, his cancer is terminal and the best case scenario is that, he's got a year to live. he was the first non british manager, to take charge of the three lions and led the golden generation, to the quarterfinals, of the 2002 and 2006 world cups, and also the euros in between before his stints at manchester city and leicester and then other roles around the world. he says he's determined to resist the illness as long as possible and i quote...
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"it's better not to think about it. you have to trick your brain. "i could go around thinking about that, all the time and sit "at home and be miserable and think i'm unlucky and so on. "but no, see the positive sides of things and don't bury "yourself in setbacks, because this is the biggest "setback of them all." there are still two legs in the english league cup semi finals for now and so fulham, do have a second match, in two weeks' time, as they try to reach their first ever final in this competition even if it's the record nine time winners, liverpool, who have a slender lead, thanks to their super subs. after last night. fulham, who came into this match, with a dreadful recent run away from home, took the lead at anfield, in the first half, thanks to the wizardry of willian after 20 minutes. liverpool were being frustrated, by fulham, who more than held their own, until curtis jones equalised thanks to a deflection and then just minutes later, it was the substitutes, nunez to gakpo, for the winner, ahead of the second leg, but the boss isn't counting any chickens as yet. not booking any hotel is as yet, he says, at wembley. nottingham forest defender harry toffolo has told the bbc that he thought his career was going to end last year, when he was charged by the fa
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for betting rule breaches. he's now 28 and the bets were placed long before he joined forest. he was given a suspended, five—month ban in september for 375 breaches of betting rules, and the resulting public fall out, and the resulting public fall out took an immense toll on his mental health, and now he wants to use this to help others. i have nothing to lose, i'm just going to go out there, i'm going to fight for the fans, i'm going to fight for my family. six months ago, i would have been... if you'd have said you're going to have a chat with x amount of people about this subject, i'd have probablyjust burst into tears, to be honest, because i thought it wasn't possible. but to be able to sit here now and speak so openly, confidently, to be an ambassador for the football club, to be so forthcoming in the community, to try and help other people, and, for me, that gives me the ultimate joy and that's why i feel complete. we are just three days away from the first tennis grand slam, of the year and in the last few hours the draw has been made for the first
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round of the australian open. emma raducanu makes her return to a major event against american shelby rogers. raducanu has had an eight—month injury lay—off, after having wrist and ankle surgery last may. she could face british number one katie boulter in the third round. five—time finalist andy murray plays the 30th seed tomas martin etcheverry — murray was the only british player, to land a seeded player in the draw. so much to look forward to in melbourne starting on sunday. thanks very much. much more coming up thanks very much. much more coming up and we will be talking about flood scams shortly after the headlines. now many people struggling with the post—effect of floods, scammers are taking their opportunities and we will explain how to avoid being scammed. it is 8:59am.
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live from london. this is bbc news. this is the scene live inside the international court ofjustice, where israel faces accusations that it is committing "genocidal acts" against palestinians in gaza in a landmark case brought by south africa. two contenders vying for the republican presidential nomination go head—to—head, without front—runner donald trump on stage.
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the public inquiry into what's been described as one of the uk's worst miscarriages ofjustice resumes as hundreds of sub postmasters wrongly convicted of fraud are to have their convictions overturned. and last year's record—breaking heat is found to have significantly impacted the global water cycle by exercerbating severe storms and developing droughts faster. hello, i'm samantha simmonds, welcome to the programme. the international court ofjustice is holding the first hearing today, where it will consider whether israel is committing genocide against the palestinians in gaza. south africa brought the case to the court. israel has forcefully rejected the accusation, claiming it's acting in self—defence.

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