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on bbc verify we've been examining video of us and uk strikes on yemen and what's triggered this latest crisis. also on the programme will get the very latest details on the attacks. we will also hearfrom military experts, top diplomats and our teams in london, washington and the region. one of the made headline here... the international court of justice is israel's defence against allegations of genocide. the entirety of — allegations of genocide. the entirety of its _ allegations of genocide. the entirety of its case - allegations of genocide. tue: entirety of its case hinges allegations of genocide. tte: entirety of its case hinges on a deliberately curated decontextualized and manipulative description of the reality of current hostilities. hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. welcome to verified live —
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three hours of breaking have diminished the groups ability to launch missiles and drones again shipping in the red sea. the houthi spokesman says it will stop attacking ships and at five of its fighters were killed and six were injured overnight. the group has issued a statement saying it was legitimate targets after the strike. more than 60 houthi military strikes have struck due to attacks on the ships in the red sea. they included what the us called command and control systems, launch systems, reduction facilities and air defence radar systems. among the areas targeted in the capital and the port. this was the capital and the port. this was the moment us air is general and requested an urgent meeting of the un security council. iran, which supports the who these condemn the strikes in yemen as a clear
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violation of countries of integrity. the british government described the strikes as a limited proportion response and said no more military action was immediately planned. our defence correspondentjonathan defence correspondent jonathan buell. jonathan beale reports. these strikes were led and coordinated by the us. last night, dozens ofjets launched from an american carrier already in the red sea — the scene of recent tensions. their targets, houthi rebels in yemen who had been launching their own attacks on merchant shipping. they'd been warned to stop, or face the consequences. president biden said the strikes were in direct response to unprecedented houthi attacks against international maritime vessels in the red sea — including the use of sophisticated anti—ship missiles for the first time. britain was one of the few other nations to directly take part.
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a more limited contribution — four raf typhoons flying from their base in cyprus, loaded with guided bombs. it took them several hours to reach their targets in yemen. it's clear that this type of behaviour can't be met without a response. we need to send a strong signal that this breach of international law is wrong — people can't act like this with impunity — and that's why, together with allies, we've decided to take this action. houthi rebels in yemen, backed by iran, have already scared off trade through one of the world's busiest sea lanes — notjust boarding ships, but targeting them with armed drones and missiles. they say it's in response to israel's attacks in gaza, and in support of palestinians. in reality, it's risking a wider conflict. the us and uk say their goal has only been to reduce tensions. the targets, they say, only military — houthi radars, drone and missile sites and command centres. this footage from one
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of the two raf strikes. at this stage, it's only an initial battle—damage assessment, but that would indicate that both of the targets that the uk prosecuted were successfully destroyed. the houthis — who control a large chunk of yemen — claim several civilians were also killed. they also say they won't back down. iran and russia, too, have condemned the us—led strikes. they may have destroyed some of the houthis�* arsenal, but not their willingness to fight. hence, president biden says he won't hesitate to do it again. jonathan beale, bbc news. breaking news before we bring more developments at what's happening in the red sea and those airstrikes. it's important breaking news— which is hearing in last few seconds from israel's prime ministers office that israel's prime ministers office that israel has reached an agreement with
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qatar to allow medicine deliveries to hostages held by hamas in gaza. that is a significant development from memory, i don't think any medicines had been delivered to any of the hostages being held. that is obviously one of the ongoing concerns. we know that communications had broken down and negotiations around further hostage releases. but over the last few days there have been just releases. but over the last few days there have beenjust fragments releases. but over the last few days there have been just fragments of information suggesting some sort of progress about a new prisoner exchange. this the new detailjust coming and coming from israel's prime ministers office. so clearly there has been agreement. just a one line so far, israel reaching agreement with qatar to allow medicine deliveries to hostages held by hamas, around 136 hostages israel's say are still being held by hamas in gaza after those waves of
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hostage exchanges. and of course a breakdown with no new hostage releases and we saw the second wave of attacks moved to the south. since then there have been no further releases. there is the first news of real progress when it comes to hostages. medicines apparently going to be allowed to reach the hostages held by hamas in gaza. that news just breaking. we will try to find out more and talk to a correspondence in the region. that is significant news just coming into us. let's return to what is happening in the red sea with those air strikes overnight from the uk and the us. some of the latest pictures. these pictures from yemen of the huge demonstrations and protests after the airstrikes. thousands of people taking to the streets, voicing their opposition to the airstrikes. of course huge
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support for palestinians in gaza. you can see their flags prominent in the crowd. those just some of the early reactions to what we saw overnight. notjust in yemen we've seen other protests like that in other parts of the world. earlier i spoke to the president of the middle east policy council in washington. she was us ambassador and served on the us national security council, a deputy coordinator for counterterrorism under deputy coordinatorfor counterterrorism under president obama. she gave us her assessment of the decision to launch strikes. unfortunately, the united states and the uk and partners that supported those strikes really had no choice about responding. bold to make the point for freedom of navigation and also their domestic pressures within the united states. you will see
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members of congress, particularly from the republican party asserting that it took too long for a response to the attacks on the obligation. there was domestic pressure to have those strikes carried out as well. unfortunately, no one expects them to change the houthi behaviour immediately. they will have very little impact by the very measurements of those strikes. it does leave room to do more without having an all out conflict with the who these in yemen. tt having an all out conflict with the who these in yemen.— having an all out conflict with the who these in yemen. it does broadly im eril who these in yemen. it does broadly imperil one — who these in yemen. it does broadly imperil one of— who these in yemen. it does broadly imperil one of president _ who these in yemen. it does broadly imperil one of president barton's - imperil one of president barton's primary objectives over the last three months, which was to stop this spreading come of this conflict in the region. spreading come of this conflict in the region-_ the region. absolutely. but by havin: the region. absolutely. but by having this — the region. absolutely. but by having this very _ the region. absolutely. but by having this very measured - the region. absolutely. but by - having this very measured response it's giving room to ratcheted up if
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need be or to continue a tit—for—tat but not in all out conflict. that is not what the united states wants. as you know the united states has been working behind the scenes for the last few years to try and bring about peace within yemen. our special envoy has been carrying out shuttle diplomacy with the who these, with the yemen government and others in the region trying to bring peace and to support the economic conflagration that is happening yemen over the last years over the internal conflicts. we yemen over the last years over the internal conflicts.— internal conflicts. we will return to news we _ internal conflicts. we will return to news we brought _ internal conflicts. we will return to news we brought you - internal conflicts. we will return to news we brought you earlier. | to news we brought you earlier. reuters agency reporting something from the uk at maritime trade operations. in initially we thought they were talking of an issue on tuesday. it's now becoming clear from the ministry of defence of the
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uk that this happened at three o'clock today. let me just repeat the details because they are significant because the uk reporting that a missile landed in the water four to 500 metres away from a ship presumably and was being followed by three small aircraft. no injuries were reported. that is significant because we saw those air strikes overnight, given what we've seen overnight, given what we've seen over recent days, the 26th strike we had this appears to be the 27th. there was a hope that overnight air strikes would stop or limit the capacity from the who these two launch attacks with another attack appears to have been launched —— who see. significant detail on this our main story. i'm joined now by a former commander of the uk joint forces command,
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sir richard barrons. thank you for being here on the program. your snapshot reaction to this news that there has been a further bit of action as i will repeat, a missile landing for two 500 meetings away followed by three small craft. t 500 meetings away followed by three small craft. ., �* ~' 500 meetings away followed by three small craft. ., �* ~ , ., small craft. i don't think we should be surprised _ small craft. i don't think we should be surprised because _ small craft. i don't think we should be surprised because the - small craft. i don't think we should be surprised because the who - small craft. i don't think we should | be surprised because the who these were never going to simply apologise and say they are never going to do this again. everyone would've factored in a divide response and that would include perhaps a response you just described. in the major question is still, will matter to return to the level of acts we saw before the strikes this morning or is this going to settle down to a level of aggravation? —— houthi. t level of aggravation? —— houthi. i suppose with consideration once you start down this tract you are rather locked—in in terms of what we might see from the uk and the us. t
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locked-in in terms of what we might see from the uk and the us.- see from the uk and the us. i think for a counle — see from the uk and the us. i think for a counle of _ see from the uk and the us. i think for a couple of reasons. _ see from the uk and the us. i think for a couple of reasons. first - see from the uk and the us. i think for a couple of reasons. first of - for a couple of reasons. first of all the strikes is the prudish thing that british prime minister has set out is of vital uk interest at stake. this is about trade with our economy, our prosperity and therefore is not something you can simply let pass. if you start by making the statement of the 16 strikes this morning you must assume that those strikes will not be the end of the matter and you must absolutely be prepared to do it again if it's necessary or you will be accused of making some sort of token gesture but dropping back into endemic strategic weakness that's not to the uk's advantage. the war he is always _ not to the uk's advantage. the war he is always been _ not to the uk's advantage. the war he is always been of— not to the uk's advantage. the war he is always been of the _ not to the uk's advantage. the war he is always been of the conflict . he is always been of the conflict widening. this must be of real concern given what we've seen over the last 2a hours. concern given what we've seen over the last 24 hours.— the last 24 hours. yes. as many of our the last 24 hours. yes. as many of your commentators _ the last 24 hours. yes. as many of your commentators have _ the last 24 hours. yes. as many of. your commentators have mentioned the last 24 hours. yes. as many of- your commentators have mentioned so far, the conflict has widened a bit, not leasing to the red sea. it
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remains a serious question about what happens with lebanese, ebola and other proxy as israel starts to wind down its total focus on gaza. this is a long way to go. the key point is there is no need for this war to escalate. and not the us and not israel and not ironic are saying that they think a wider war is a good idea. —— iran are not saying for the we're not out to those sort of waterjet. for the we're not out to those sort of waterjet— of water'et. militarily, take me throu~h of waterjet. militarily, take me through the — of waterjet. militarily, take me through the considerations, . of waterjet. militarily, take me| through the considerations, the thinking because the houthi have that saudi coalition until last year attacking them and that conflict that lasted nine years. they survive that, they have weapons. in terms of this action from the uk, the us what likelihood is success? t
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this action from the uk, the us what likelihood is success?— likelihood is success? i think that there is a great _ likelihood is success? i think that there is a great deal— likelihood is success? i think that there is a great deal that - likelihood is success? i think that there is a great deal that can - likelihood is success? i think that there is a great deal that can be i there is a great deal that can be done from the air using these sorts of aircraft we saw last night and missile attacks. because things like drone launch sites and missile sites and radars and command—and—control facilities are generally quite obvious things that are fixed on the ground and you can see them from space and from the sky. there's a lot i can still be done with air power. we're a long way from having to consider to use other interventions like special forces raid and consideration of occupying yemen in some way to deal with this problem are absolutely off the table. ~ ., ~' ., problem are absolutely off the table. ~ ., ~ ., ., , , table. we do know some of the stuff is underground. _ table. we do know some of the stuff is underground. we _ table. we do know some of the stuff is underground. we know— table. we do know some of the stuff is underground. we know from - is underground. we know from the americans president biden referring to it only last night but the sort of hardware they have in the most up to date hardware, that is really worrying, isn't it?— worrying, isn't it? some of the iranian supplied _ worrying, isn't it? some of the iranian supplied missiles - worrying, isn't it? some of the iranian supplied missiles have| iranian supplied missiles have ranges of 800 km. to use those effectively the houthi would need
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targeting information from iran. this is a systemic problem. but the basic issue now is that the uk and us have taken a stand and a number of other nations have supported that. it is now up to tehran and the whether they think they should get more mileage from this or whether they will calibrate downwards and move onto other things. this confrontation in the middle east is nowhere near it resolved. flan confrontation in the middle east is nowhere near it resolved.- nowhere near it resolved. can it be se arated nowhere near it resolved. can it be separated from _ nowhere near it resolved. can it be separated from the _ nowhere near it resolved. can it be separated from the gaza _ nowhere near it resolved. can it be separated from the gaza war? - nowhere near it resolved. can it be separated from the gaza war? the | separated from the gaza war? the west wants the narrative to be different and to separate the two global shipping and the middle east war. it's not the way that many in the region see it, is it? that war. it's not the way that many in the region see it, is it?— the region see it, is it? that is true. i think— the region see it, is it? that is true. i think in _ the region see it, is it? that is true. i think in this _ the region see it, is it? that is true. i think in this particular l true. i think in this particular case of the attacks on international shipping it actually can be separated from what's going on in gaza because the houthi were claiming they were only firing at ships that were going to israel. in fact they were firing at ships from many nations and indeed uk and us
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warships. the strikes this morning were about a separate issue, about international freedom of navigation. of international freedom of navigation. of course it is connected to what is unfolding in gaza and around israel. the important thing is everybody bear down on confining the problem as much as possible as to what happens next around gaza. aha, as much as possible as to what happens next around gaza. a final ruick happens next around gaza. a final quick thought. _ happens next around gaza. a final quick thought, we've _ happens next around gaza. a final quick thought, we've heard - happens next around gaza. a final quick thought, we've heard from | happens next around gaza. a final i quick thought, we've heard from the prime minister, it's the same theme from washington that they hope they diminish the capacity of houthi to actually launch attacks like this what would be your principal fears in the days and weeks ahead if it is not that avenue? t in the days and weeks ahead if it is not that avenue?— not that avenue? i think the us and uk military will— not that avenue? i think the us and uk military will assume _ not that avenue? i think the us and uk military will assume that - not that avenue? i think the us and uk military will assume that they i uk military will assume that they did make some standard inroad into houthi capability. they will assume they did not destroy all that they will assume the houthi will be
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defined and want to retaliate. they will hope that the houthis will interpret that it's a signal to stop because it only gets worse for them. if the houthi decide not to do that thatis if the houthi decide not to do that that is because iran has told them to get on with it and is giving them more missiles and drones. issue this will start to become a much sharper focus on the relationship between the us and its partners and in what we will then seem like the threshold of a wider regional confrontation. thank you so much forjoining us here live on the program. thank you for your time. here live on the program. thank you foryourtime. earlier here live on the program. thank you for your time. earlier i was talking to the british ambassador to afghanistan, sudan and iraq. iasked him what his initial reaction has been to the strikes we've seen. it was inevitable when they
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continued the attacks there would be strikes. , , ., , strikes. they seem to be limited in ro ortion strikes. they seem to be limited in proportion in _ strikes. they seem to be limited in proportion in the _ strikes. they seem to be limited in proportion in the sense _ strikes. they seem to be limited in proportion in the sense that - strikes. they seem to be limited in proportion in the sense that they i proportion in the sense that they are aimed at the houthi capacity to strike shipping. i don't think they'd been able to destroy that capacity. it's entirely such a limited strike. a bit of bluster from the houthi fees which you would expect. they have a limited capacity to hurt british and american interests beyond attacks on shipping, which they are already doing. they are very few british american assets and yemen, there is no embassy and they would be unable to do so without iranian help. that would certainly escalate. you mentioned — would certainly escalate. you mentioned the _ would certainly escalate. you mentioned the fact _ would certainly escalate. you mentioned the fact that they have ignored all the warnings, the back channels, the quiet work that was trying to actually dissuade them but actually they've increased the number of attacks. what happens if this doesn't work? t
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number of attacks. what happens if this doesn't work?— this doesn't work? i expect the international _ this doesn't work? i expect the international coalition - this doesn't work? i expect the international coalition will - this doesn't work? i expect the international coalition will have this doesn't work? i expect the i international coalition will have no choice but to go back and strike again. there is the possibility of continuing strikes. i don't think there is much chance that anyone will want to get involved in the ground in yemen. they will not step back and watch the yemenis into fair with national trade for the purposes of fear of international community. yemen may want to link it to gaza but this is an attack on free goods around the world. it affects the chinese, egyptians, europeans, it's notjust chinese, egyptians, europeans, it's not just the chinese, egyptians, europeans, it's notjust the us in the uk that are impacted by threats to shipping in the red sea. t impacted by threats to shipping in the red sea-— impacted by threats to shipping in the red sea. ., ., ., the red sea. i want to return to the breakin: the red sea. i want to return to the breaking news _ the red sea. i want to return to the breaking news because _ the red sea. i want to return to the breaking news because it's - the red sea. i want to return to the breaking news because it's a - breaking news because it's a significant development. we're hearing from israel prime ministers office spokesman said that israel has reached an agreement with qatar to allow medicine deliveries to
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hostages held by hamas in gaza. that is the first piece of positive news around the hostages for a significant period of time. we still wait to hear more detail put up our teams on the ground trying to get more detail about how it might work, what might happen it is a first part of a broader agreement that perhaps has been negotiated. that warm line coming but it is a significant line from the prime minister office in israel. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. the economy grew by 0.3% after following the month before. the growth was driven by the service sector including a booster retail from the black friday sales. china's foreign ministry says it has mediated peace talks
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between myanmar�*s ruling military and armed rebel groups known as the three brotherhood alliance. beijing says both sides agreed to halt fighting and resolve disputes through dialogue. the temporary ceasefire was confirmed by one of the group's leaders. there's been no response from the military government. to the us, where a ferry had a rather bumpy crossing in the north—western state of washington. heavy winds were causing waves to come into the parking deck of the vessel. with only a few cars on board — and no passengers — the ferry was able to stay in an upright position before heading into port. you're live with bbc news. israel has called on judges at the international court ofjustice to throw out the case brought by south africa, alleging that it is committing genocide in gaza. on the second and final day of hearings at the un's highest
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court, lawyers acting for israel argued that demands by south africa for a stop to the offensive in gaza lacked any merit. on thursday, south africa accused the highest levels of the israeli state of nurturing genocidal intent against palestinians in gaza. it wants the icj to issue an injunction to stop israel's military campaign. israel's foreign ministry adviser, tal becker, said south africa's case lacked any merit. the applicant has regrettably put before the court a profoundly distorted factual and legal picture. the entirety of its case hinges on a deliberately curated, decontextualised and manipulative description of the reality of current hostilities. south africa purports to come to this court in the lofty position of a guardian of the interest of humanity. but in delegitimising israel's 75—year existence in its opening presentation yesterday,
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that broad commitment to humanity rang hollow. and in its sweeping counterfactual description of the israeli—palestinian conflict, it seems to erase bothjewish history and any palestinian agency or responsibility. speaking outside the court, south africa'sjustice minister reiterated his country's allegations that israel was committing genocide in gaza. israel has purported justification before the icj. some of the points made are astonishing and are not backed by facts and the situation on the ground. israel suggests that the genocide convention is primary for their protection and, because of that, is not capable of violating its own provisions. the state of israel today has failed to disprove south africa's compelling case that was presented
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before the court yesterday. our correspondent anna holligan reports from outside the icj in the hague. israel accused south africa of weaponizing the term genocide and trivializing the genocide convention itself, under which this case was brought. and israel's lawyers invoked memories of the holocaust. it said it was acting in self—defence in response to the hamas attacks on the 7th of october, which it said were a concerted campaign, a calculated mass murder, the worst since the nazis. and what we've heard today from israel is an attempt to reinterpret some of the arguments presented by south africa yesterday. so, for example, when south africa talked about the military campaign, the bombings, israel said they were attempting to remove the threat posed by hamas, while south africa talked about forced displacements of more than a million people in gaza.
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israel said it had been acting to try to protect and preserve civilian life. so now it's all over, at least for now. israel had three hours, south africa had three hours, and now it's down to the judges to make their interpretation of the evidence presented by both sides. and back injust a moment. good evening. it's been a much colder week, with frosty scenes across the uk, and at least it's been drier. now, we do have some rain to come in the north overnight and at first tomorrow, but more significantly, this weather front will introduce even colder air surging down from the arctic on strong winds. so it will feel pretty bitter as we head into next week, with some severe frosts and a greater risk of snow. but i'll come back to that. for the meantime, as we go
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through this evening and overnight, there will be some wetter weather making its way southwards, dampening the surfaces. so as we do go through the night and temperatures fall close to freezing, below freezing in a few spots, there could be the odd icy patch and, as we've seen this week, the odd fog patch, and it may well linger throughout the day on saturday. so quite a lot of cloud mulling around underneath this weather front, still a few spots of rain on it, but much brighter skies follow for scotland, then to northern ireland and northern england. some brightness further south as well once any mist fog clears, but we do hold on to a lot of cloud as well. but the wind direction changes. it's down from the north or the north—west, so it's not a particularly cold day on the face of things, but i think it will start to feel chilly in that brisk north wind, which will bring with it wintry showers, increasingly so as we go through tomorrow night and into sunday. so a colder night with the frost returning a little bit more sharply in the north, as you can see, with longer clear spells here. but sunday, we still got the remnants of the weather front in the south and a few spots
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of rain, but it's snow we're expecting across scotland. already, warnings out for those snow showers piling up and causing potential disruption. you can see it's a colder day. so these are the areas we think through sunday and monday most likely to see some disruptive snow, initially scotland, but the risk increases on monday in northern ireland. you can see that yourself. and then potentially later monday into tuesday, we might see a spell of snow pushing further southwards into perhaps southern scotland, northern ireland, northern england, so therefore the risk of that disruptive snow pushes further southwards. we could see 5—10 centimetres over the hills. by wednesday, just the hint that we might see some snow in southern areas as well as those heavy showers continuing with the snowfall in the north. so you can see those areas where we're expecting to see most of the snow as we go into next week, but not exclusively. there could be snow elsewhere as well, but it certainly looks colder as we go through next week.
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this is bbc news. let's turn to our main headlines. yemen's houthi movement vows retaliation as us and uk forces launch air strikes against houthi targets. britain says the strikes were "a limited, necessary and proportionate response" to repeated houthi attacks on global shipping in the red sea. rishi sunak makes a suprise visit to kyiv as the uk
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announces its $3 billion aid package for ukraine. and one more story. bbc radio 1's first ever female presenter, the dj annie nightingale, has died. let mejust for you let me just for you the latest on that breaking news of medical supplies potentially getting two hostages in gaza, more detail coming from the prime minister's office in israel. they say under the direction of benjamin netanyahu and the head of benjamin netanyahu and the head of mossad, they let a move in conjunction with cas are that would allow the introduction of medicines to the hostages held by hamas in gaza. they describe it as part of israel's humanitarian aid system for the gaza strip and then more of the detail that perhaps what is likely to happen, and as i am going through that, these the latest live pictures
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