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this is bbc news, the headlines. the united states says it's seized iranian weapons, which were destined for houthis in yemen — it comes as another cargo ship has reportedly been hit. the boss of fujitsu — that's the company behind the wrongful prosecutions of post office staff — apologises. donald trump wednesday iowa caucus, cementing his lead in the race for the republican nominee —— wins the.
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as a country, we want to come together. as a country, we want to come together-— as a country, we want to come touether. ~ ., ., ., ., together. we will hear from one of the families _ together. we will hear from one of the families of— together. we will hear from one of the families of one _ together. we will hear from one of the families of one of _ together. we will hear from one of the families of one of the - together. we will hear from one of| the families of one of the hostages still being held by hamas, that is in the next few minutes. now we have the business news. we start here in the uk — with the post office scandal. as you've been hearing, members of parliament have been questioning the european boss of fujitsu, the japanese company which developed the software which contributed to more than 900 post office managers being wrongly convicted of fraud. bugs in the horizon platform, which was introduced in the 1990s, made it look as though money had gone missing from post offices. their managers faced prosecution, which devastated their lives, with some dying by suicide. fujitsu's european ceo paul patterson today offered an unreserved apology.
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fujitsu would like to apologise for our part in this appalling miscarriage of justice. we were involved from the very start, we did have bugs and errors in the system and we did help the post office in their prosecutions of the sub—postmasters. for that we are truly sorry. mr patterson also accepted that the it giant now had to play its part in compensating the victims. i think there is a moral obligation for the company to contribute and i think the right place to determine that is when our responsibility is very clear. there are many parties involved in this travesty. the bbc has caught up with the global chief executive of fujitsu, takahito tokita at the world economic forum at davos in switzerland. he told the bbc that the company
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is sorry for the impact it has had on the postmasters and their families caught up in the horizon it scandal and that the company took the issue "very seriously". a bbc producer spoke to him as he walked between events at the swiss ski resort. would you like to apologise? yes, of course. would you like to apologise? yes, of course- fuiitsu _ would you like to apologise? yes, of course. fujitsu has _ would you like to apologise? yes, of course. fujitsu has apologised... - course. fujitsu has apologised... has apologised for the impact on the lives of the people involved, and theirfamilies. lives of the people involved, and their families.— their families. what do you think about fuiitsu _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu returning _ their families. what do you think about fujitsu returning the - their families. what do you think. about fujitsu returning the money? please _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there _ about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there is- about fujitsu returning the money? please understand, there is the - please understand, there is the ongoing public inquiry. i'm sorry, i
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cannot comment furthermore about these topics. the cannot comment furthermore about these twice-— cannot comment furthermore about these mics-— these topics. the global boss of fu'itsu these topics. the global boss of fujitsu there. _ karl flinders is chief reporter at computer weekly. he first revealed the it problems which caused postmasters to be falsely accused of fraud 15 years ago. we saw what appeared to be a heartfelt apology today and transparency of fujitsu's role. it seemed heartfelt and transparent. how does that compare with your own experience of the company when reporting on this story? it was much anticipated because in the last ia years, every time i have called fujitsu i have had a simple no comment. they hide behind the
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contract with the post office and so you have got to speak to the post office about this but recently they have been hiding behind the inquiry, and i was looking forward to seeing them grilled by mps. i was quite surprised that they admitted to everything quite clearly, admitting to supporting the post office and their wrongful prosecution is and that they contributed dot to dot they will pay some ——... they will pay some money towards the costs. fujitsu said it should contribute to the compensation talked about and it talked about having a moral responsibility, and based on your experience of the story, what share of the blame does fujitsu have? it
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should, because people should have spoken out, and there is nothing in the contract that says you cannot speak out against your client if they are breaking the law and doing something that is morally wrong like using evidence which is not robust in prosecuting people, but it is not an it scandal. it is a post office scandal, caused by people, but fujitsu, the post office is responsible but fujitsu should carry some of the blame for not speaking out and supporting the post office in doing what it was doing. the software errors _ in doing what it was doing. the software errors were errors and the scandal is the cover—up and the attempt to pin the blame on the postmasters. how complicit was fujitsu and that? —— in that. it would appear, if they provided evidence to the post office, knowing
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it will be used in court, and they provided staff to give evidence in court, knowing that if the details of errors were revealed, these people would never have been prosecuted, so i'm not a legal expert and i don't know what they have done wrong, but it is perverting the course ofjustice or something, there are not an expert. fujitsu continues to look after horizon and it still continues to be run, so should this be treated as an isolated issue or should they be excluded from developing other platforms like horizon? it excluded from developing other platforms like horizon? it would be very difficult _ platforms like horizon? it would be very difficult because _ platforms like horizon? it would be very difficult because fujitsu - platforms like horizon? it would be very difficult because fujitsu in - very difficult because fujitsu in the uk came out of a uk company which in the 90s fujitsu acquired and the government wanted them to acquire them because it was not doing too well. icl had a lot of
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contracts in government which fujitsu has until this day, and winding down contracts over many years, start gaining experience, system being updated, it would be very time—consuming and it would cost a of money. very time-consuming and it would cost a of money.— cost a of money. very interesting. we will hehr _ cost a of money. very interesting. we will hear more _ cost a of money. very interesting. we will hear more about - cost a of money. very interesting. we will hear more about that - we will hear more about that particular aspect of the story in the weeks and months ahead. thanks forjoining us. to the red sea now, breaking news this hour is that the us has carried out more air strikes against the militants responsible for targeting cargo vessels in the region. prior to that development, the oil giant shell has reportedly decided to suspend shipments through the red sea "indefinitely" over fears of attacks by yemen's houthi rebels, that news reported by the wall streetjournal. we haven't had confirmation yet from shell. all this after another attack on a ship in the red sea today —
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this time a greek owned cargo vessel — according to maritime security avisors ambrey. early on monday, a ballistic missile was fired at a us owned vessel, all of which suggests that us and uk air strikes against the yemeni group resonsible for the attacks have not dissuaded them. i spoke to copenhagen based shipping consultant larsjensen. the most important escalation to look at here is the widening of the geographic scope. until a few days ago, all the vessel attacks we saw were in the very southern part of the red sea. the attack yesterday and another one a couple of days ago actually happened in the gulf of aden, which is a completely different body of water. this is a geographical widening. and the importance of that is this also puts in directjeopardy shipping routes that service the port of djibouti, which in turn is the only main gateway to the 100 million people in ethiopia. so that suggests, as you say,
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that this this risk is expanding rather than contracting. can you put a number on how many more vessels or what percentage of global traffic this additional territory brings into the equation? well, to some degree, it only increases the number of vessels marginally. but it has led to the situation where today we are seeing even fewer vessels try to cross this water than we did prior to the weekend. keep in mind, the strait had never been closed. you had a0 or 50 vessels at least per day for the past month that crossed the strait. we are now down to something like 20 to 30 vessels doing it as of today. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. bbc news — bringing you different stories from across the uk. east of eastbourne, the remains of fort fun.
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once a big attraction, but since the summer of �*21, it's been shut. it's a sight defiant sports wanted to revive. their place is too small and not suitable. so, claudia, this is a sports court. as you can see, it's not really the right size. so unfortunately, we can't offer any tournaments or proper sporting events here because itjust doesn't meet standards so the community can't get that opportunity. managing director loretta locke put in a bid for fort fun and believed the site had been earmarked for them. now, it's going to a leisure and hospitality business instead. it's absolutely heartbreaking. and again, it's another kick for the community we support, for people with barriers to participation. and that's just not fair. they're a community interest company who promote inclusivity in sport, but they're also open to all. louis is home educated, and he's been coming for several years. me, myself, i come here, just spend time with my friends. but so many other people may have
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disabilities, but they don't... they try not to notice that and just, like, they're here as a sports group. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. the israeli military says its troops have killed dozens of hamas militants around the town of beit lahia in northern gaza. the idf said it had uncovered about 100 rocket launchers. israel has dropped leaflets near rafah, in the south of gaza, warning residents there to move to safer areas, and to leave what it described as "a dangerous fighting zone." but the idf has said its operations against hamas in southern gaza will soon enter a less intensive phase. our correspondent injerusalem, yolande knell, sent us this update. we're continuing to see more than 100 people killed each day, and many children among the dead.
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people saying that, particularly in the south of the gaza strip, there have been intense israeli air strikes and shelling by israeli tanks. they also say there is this kind of close quarters fighting going on between israeli soldiers and, it seems, hamas fighters, particularly in khan younis. that's where the israeli military believes that hamas leaders may still be hiding, that many of the israeli hostages still held in gaza could be kept. but that said, you know, we've had the israeli defence minister indicating that this is part of a longer term strategy, one which they have supposedly agreed with the americans to enter into a less intense stage of fighting. he said that that already happened in the north of the gaza strip and that there they're just going round now with many soldiers pulled out of gaza, targeting certain areas. we had the israeli military this morning saying that it had found about 100 rocket launchers and 60 rockets and that had killed, it said, dozens of palestinian armed
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fighters in the north in this area around beit lahia town, and in the south of the gaza strip, the defence minister indicating that there will be a less intense stage of fighting that is reached sometime soon. the weekend marked 100 days in captivity for those taken hostage in israel by hamas. more than 130 are still held there. earlier i was joined by ayelet svatitzky, whose mother hanna and brother nadav were taken hostage from kibbutz nirim. hanna was released in november but nadav is still in the hands of hamas. her other brother roi was killed. after more than a hundred days of conflict i asked her how she was coping. we are struggling. we are hanging in there but it is a daily struggle, the worry and anxiety, and the fear for my brother and the other hostages, it is really difficult. just to remind viewers,
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you were actually on the phone with your mother during the moment that she was taken hostage. hamas actually posting pictures of that. that memory must be seared into your mind. it's still terrifying when i think about it. i remember the phone call to my mum very vividly. i called her early in the morning. she answered and i begged her to go into the safe room, i urged her to lock the door. i didn't know that you can't lock the safe rooms and the next thing i heard was the voices of men speaking to her in english with a very heavy arabic accent and i realised the terrorists had got to her. and then i called my brother nadav, who lives next door. i told him to go into the safe room as well. i heard the same voices of the men entering his house and speaking to him and i realised that they were both taken.
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i will talk about your mother shortly but i want to talk about your brother first of all. what was the last piece of information you had on your brother nadav since he has been taken by hamas? the last information we have is from my mum. she was held with him for her entire captivity. we know he was alive and we know from my mum how little food they received. she lost a lot of weight and she said nadav has lost a lot of weight as well. he was a thin man when he was taken. we know of his medical conditions from before, he is diabetic, he has asthma and he needs an inhaler and he needs pills for his diabetes. when my mother came out,
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she confirmed that there is very little food and the conditions are difficult. my mum was held in the tunnels for a9 days and that is what we last know of nadav. a really difficult question to ask but how traumatic was it hearing the news yesterday with hamas putting out the video, the purported death of two of the hostages? they flagged that they would give an update. how traumatic was that? i was shocked and appalled by hamas portraying it as if it was a game. these are the lives of people, these are our loved ones. these are people who are being held against their will for over a hundred days and they posted it as if it was some kind of a game. who does that? i was shocked, absolutely shocked.
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and, of course, it is described as psychological torture by the defence minister. and it is. every day is torture for us. every piece of information that they post, and it is usually appalling information, is psychological torture. it is part of their agenda, hurting us is what they want. in terms of your brother, you mentioned the fact he was diabetic and we reported last friday of the apparent deal to allow medicines to get to the hostages. have you heard any update as to the mechanics of when perhaps that actually might happen? we did not get any specifics, no. we don't expect to get any specifics until it happens but at the end of the day, as i say, when the hostages are released we will ask them
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if they got the medicine, because as of now, what we know is what we learn from the media and we do not know any other specifics apart from that. in terms of your mother, since her release, what has she been able to tell you about those days in captivity and how is she now? she is slowly recovering. she is staying with us at our house. physically, she is getting stronger, we can help her on that end, and emotionally, it is very difficult for her. the main concern of course is nadav. she did tell us about the time she stayed in the tunnels. not much of that we can share. but we can all imagine that being held against your will for a9 days and for others it is over a hundred days, your life in the hands of others who decide
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whether you live or die, we can all imagine how difficult and frightening that must be. so physically, we can help her. emotionally, we are alljust worried for my brother and the other 136 hostages. hospital staff in west yorkshire say they're seeing more injuries inflicted with machete style weapons. doctors at leeds general infirmary say the large blades cause complex wounds and result in significant trauma for both the victims and those who come to their aid. our correspondent emma glasbey has spent three weekends at the hospital's major trauma centre to see the reality facing their medical teams — just to warn you may find parts of her report distressing. siren wails phone rings you all right, love? the knife crime battle facing our doctors and nurses. just sit forwards. let's make sure we're not missing
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any stab wounds at the back. this is the major trauma centre in leeds. they see knife wounds here every week, sometimes every day. am i dying? no, you're not. you sure? we just need to sort yourface out, love. the bbc has been spending time at leeds general infirmary, because medics want to show what it's like on the front line. i feel like it's something that needs to be dealt with and sorted out, and something really, really needs to change. saturday night. the trauma team's getting ready for a patient who's on the way. the man has several wounds across his face. you said you've had a fight with someone? you're guessing it was a knife? sliced my face. fine, 0k. any injuries anywhere else? fortunately, there are no other stab wounds on his body, but he's clearly in pain and will need surgery. he's a chap that, helpfully, has been quite lucky.
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so his injuries are all facial injuries without any sort of significant injury to his chest, his abdomen, his pelvis. so while there might be some cosmetic damage, we're hoping that the maxillofacial surgeons can suture all that back together. for emergency staff in west yorkshire, dealing with stabbings is not unusual. seeing children with knife wounds is not as rare as it once was. tonight, a 1a—year—old has come in with injuries possibly inflicted with a machete. the wounds are not too deep, but he does have a fracture on his leg. he's told staff he doesn't know who is responsible. we're seeing increasingly now that young people are advising us that they don't know the assailants. and although it's not that we don't believe them, but sometimes we wonder whether actually they do, but they're scared to tell us who these people actually are. these medics are probably the ones
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getting the clearest picture on what's really happening with knife crime and how it may be changing over time. most of them are machete crimes. it's a large single blade knife, which is quite heavy on its own, is what people seem to be using now. medical trauma? it's now friday night and there's an alert about a stabbing, this time in pontefract. ricky was stabbed in the stomach during a night out. after an operation to close the wound, the next day, he's recovering on a hospital ward. i weren't in pain, but the adrenaline kept me going until i actually realised how much pain i were in. as soon as the adrenaline had gone out, i were in a lot of pain then. when you see it on telly and you think "that'll never happen "on our street," or "that'll never happen in ourtown," just being a quiet town, small town, not like a city. it can happen anywhere. if people need to carry knives, i just think they're cowards.
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the bbc spent three weekends at the lgi and saw knife injuries on each of those weekends. the impact on all those affected is impossible to measure. emma glasby, bbc news, leeds. a town and nearby village in powys has been announced as wales' first dark sky community. residents have been working to reduce the light pollution for the last six years and have now achieved exceptional view of the night sky. jordan davies reports. this place is beautiful in the day, but you should see it at night. stars as far as the eye can see. now officially the best view of the night sky of any village, town or city in wales. it's really exciting that we are the first dark skies community in the whole of wales. when we initially started there was a, there is a dark skies community in scotland at moffat. i made contact with them, but we are the first
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dark skies community, i believe in both england and wales, and certainly wales anyway. locals saw the potential early on. lights in homes and businesses were turned off and councils changed the lighting around the towns. some have been dimmed, others are on timers. it all cuts down on light pollution without compromising on safety, they say. and the effects are spectacular. this has now been designated an international dark sky community by the organisation dark sky international. from a personal level, it's made our work up here at the spaceguard centre much, much easier. we look south as a general rule, looking for asteroids and comets, and the dark skies we now have in the south make thatjob much easier and we can do a lot more real work. and there's another bonus. wildlife, birds, bats and insects have returned at night. similar schemes may now be
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rolled out across powys, and some would like to see wales become the first dark skies nation. all the latest on the middle east and the latest from the house of commons where the rwanda debate is going on. now it's time for a look at the weather with stav danaos. hello there. it's a very cold day, wherever you are, but plenty of crisp winter sunshine across the southern half of the country. further north, we've got a couple of weather fronts bringing a mix of rain, sleet and snow. we could see some disruptive snow across parts of scotland later in the day. now, here's the culprit. these weather fronts moving in from the northwest, bringing that mixture of rain, sleet and snow, some slightly less cold air moving in behind it. so i think across northern ireland,
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it's mostly reverting back to rain and rain to lower levels of northern england after some early snow. looks like the snow will be confined to the pennines there and this band of snow will start to sink southwards across scotland, eventually reaching the central belt as you move towards the evening rush hour. a very cold day to come wherever you are. significantly cold, though, across scotland where we'll continue with the risk of ice, so that snow across northern scotland sinks southwards, could bring some disruption to the central belt in southern scotland later in the day. and the band continues to fizzle out as it moves southwards over england and wales, no more than a line of cloud with just a few snow flurries on it. but another very cold night to come for all areas, but especially so across the northern half of the country with a significant risk of ice. so for wednesday, snow showers continue across northern areas. a lot of sunshine elsewhere. this feature looks like it's going to stay across the channel
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into france, maybejust grazing the south coast, some high cloud, maybe the odd wintry flurry for the south west of england. but most places dry, sunny, sunny, but very cold. frequent snow showers, northern scotland, a few into northern ireland, maybe into north west england, around some irish sea coast. snowfall amounts really starting to accumulate now across northern scotland and a very cold day to come wherever you are. particularly factoring in the strong wind across northern scotland thursday. similar story, very cold start. plenty of dry and sunny weather around with snow showers draped around coastal areas, particularly northern scotland in towards northern ireland, perhaps north west england and a very cold afternoon, 1 to 3 or four degrees. but it will feel cold like that when you add on the northerly breeze. high pressure brings some fine weather to end the week. further snow likely across scotland and then low pressure takes over as we head into the weekend, bringing strong and gusty south westerly winds, in fact, turning wet and windy through the weekend. into the start of next week, you'll notice the temperatures climbing. it will become a lot milder.
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live from london. this is bbc news. the united states says it's seized iranian weapons, which were destined for houthis in yemen — it comes as another cargo ship has reportedly been hit. the prime ministerfaces the prime minister faces a the prime ministerfaces a rebellion from some mps over his rwanda immigration deal. i’m from some mps over his rwanda immigration deal.— from some mps over his rwanda immigration deal. i'm in parliament where the divisions _ immigration deal. i'm in parliament where the divisions have _ immigration deal. i'm in parliament where the divisions have been - immigration deal. i'm in parliament where the divisions have been on i where the divisions have been on full display. the boss of fujitsu apologises and says the company must help compensate post office staff who were wrongly prosecuted because if it's faulty it software the prime ministerfaces a rebellion from some mps over his rwanda immigration deal. would you like to apologise? yes.
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fu'itsu would you like to apologise? yes. fuiitsu has — would you like to apologise? yes. fujitsu has apologised. _ hello, i'm matthew amroliwala. welcome to verified live — three hours of breaking the united states says it's seized advanced iranian weapons that were being transported to houthi rebels in yemen. the operation took place five days ago. the material found onboard a sailboat included components for ballistic and cruise missiles — among them, warheads and guidance systems. parts for air defence equipment were also seized. the us military said initial analysis indicated the houthis had been using the same kinds of weapons in attacks against commercial shipping in the red sea. it added the seizure showed how iran continued to violate un resolutions, and sow instability throughout the region. maritime agencies say there's been another missile attack on a cargo ship off the coast of yemen. a maltese—flagged vessel is said to have suffered minor damage.

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