yes, the cold snap may well be coming to an end, but it does so with something of a sting in the tail across northern areas of the country, snow getting ever heavier and increasingly disruptive, and of course we have seen loads of snow over recent days, obi 20 centimetres in over recent days, 0bi 20 centimetres in lerwick, bigger drifts around. looking at the satellite picture, these massive thunder clouds are forming trough that will be pushing southwards, bringing the ever heavier snow showers in across the north of the country. so for northern scotland, another 5—15 centimetres, windy conditions so blizzard at times, and heavy snow showers will make their way across northern ireland, so we will get accumulations here, perhaps ten centimetres overnight and into tomorrow, so much greater risk of seeing disruption here. elsewhere, we will continue to see largely dry conditions across a large part of

england and wales, wintry showers clipping the far west of wales and a few snow showers down the north sea coast. the heaviest snow will continue to be focused across the north of scotland and northern ireland. it will stay cold in places, temperature is not expected to get above freezing. tomorrow evening, a line of snow showers forms across the irish sea affecting parts of north wales, merseyside, cheshire and the north midlands. the amount of snow will vary, but you could get a bit in a few areas. into friday, temperatures come up a little, and the showers piling into scotland will turn to rain or sleet, leaving the snow confined to hilly parts of the country. temperatures on the face of it a degree or to hire, not much in the way of change until we get to the weekend, when the south—westerly winds will bring much milder air across the uk, but it won't only be mild but it will also be wild with gusts up to 70 mph. thanks, chris. and that's bbc news at ten. 0n bbc one, it's time

tojoin our colleagues for the news where you are. last night, we saw the biggest rebellion of rishi sunak�*s premiership over rwanda. tonight, all but 11 conservative mps voted for his flagship legislation. so, what happened? after a bruising few days, rishi sunak has succeeded in getting his safety of rwanda bill comfortably through the commons tonight.

we'll ask the legal migration minister tom pursglove, live, if they're on course to stop the boats by election day. and here in the studio is sirjacob rees—mogg. in the last 2a hours, he rebelled against the government. he'll tell you how he voted in the crucial vote, the third reading, and having failed to get this bill toughened up, we'll ask him if the right of the conservative party is now a busted flush? also on the programme, our own sima kotecha shares more details about her family's experience after her aunt took her own life. and why some people of south asian heritage are so reluctant to seek help for their mental health. i heard you screamed and you fell on the floor. it's ok, mum. h g; the floor. it'sok, mum. , . , ., it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't — it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't get _ it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't get out _ it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't get out of _ it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't get out of my - it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it still doesn't get out of my mind i it's ok, mum. it's 32 years now. it| still doesn't get out of my mind you know, _ still doesn't get out of my mind you know. i_ still doesn't get out of my mind you know. i can — still doesn't get out of my mind you know, i can still see her face.

we'll ask a community worker and an mp if they agree this is a particular stigma for the south asian community. and we hear about the mental health of children affected by the gaza conflict in their own words. this is my big brother. he's kidnapped by hamas. every day, every hour, every minute that pass, it's harder. in the end, it seemed pretty easy for rishi sunak — his safety of rwanda bill got through the commons in one piece unamended. ii conservatives voted against the bill, but it passed with a majority of 1m. victory for the prime minister, then, in the tussle with some of his own party, but he may well be a little bruised after the last 2a hours. some have asked, what was the point of any of the rebellions? let's talk straight away to nick who's in central lobby. what does this mean for rishi sunak?

there have been some pretty big government celebrations in the last 30 minutes or so. a smiling rishi sunak could be seen going into the government's whips office. there were loud cheers. then he went out and are even louder cheers. but suggests me that they hit their favourite tipple, which is a glass or two of champagne. in the last few minutes, downing street have said this is a major step in their plan to stop the boats and this is the toughest ever legislation in dealing with tackling with illegal migration. i was talking to one of the prime minister's closest allies. they say this is a very good result, a majority of 1m. 0nly they say this is a very good result, a majority of 1m. only 11 conservative rebels on that final commons vote, the third reading before it goes to the house of lords. but this person did see that clearly the conservative brand is damaged. i think it will not take long for us to hear from the prime minister. he will very much want to get back on the front foot after 48 hours of tory divisions. 0ne get back on the front foot after 48 hours of tory divisions. one area where you might face questions was

that james cleverley, the where you might face questions was thatjames cleverley, the home secretary, reassured conservative mps on the left of the party that this bill is completely compatible with international law. but if you look at the very face of this bill, when it was published last month, it said, james cleverley saying, i am unable to make a statement that in my view the provisions of this bill are compatible with the convention rights, that is the european convention of human rights. it says the government nevertheless wishes the government nevertheless wishes the house to proceed with a spell. there may be some questions on that apparent mismatch. i am there may be some questions on that apparent mismatch.— apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well. -- i apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well- -- i am — apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well. -- i am sure _ apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well. -- i am sure there _ apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well. -- i am sure there will- apparent mismatch. i am sure they're well. -- i am sure there will be. - what does this mean for the right of the conservative party? there are some big questions about whether this is the last stand of the conservative right. they marched up the conservative right. they marched up the hill in december on the second reading of this bill, 24 abstentions. marched up the hill on this one, 11 votes against. i was

being taken into corridors, whispered in my year in the last few days, being told the momentum is with us. those people who were telling me that, they now cannot catch my eye. they are clearly in despair. i was talking to one pretty significant figure who did sort of organise on the right and earlier parliaments, they said to me that they watched in despair about what was happening in the last few days. they said, if you want to amend in this parliament a bill to the right, you will fail because you need labour. so, what are you trying to do? are you trying to book ring the bell down? you have not got the numbers to do that. is it about triggering letters of no confidence in rishi sunak. 65 conservative mps signed this amendment, only a tiny fraction —— tiny fraction would agree to that. the finally option is that this is an attempt to put suella braverman in pole position for a leadership contest after the next election. what this person told

me is that she will not be able to do that is because of the red while mps will have been taken out in the general election. that is from a senior conservative mp.- general election. that is from a senior conservative mp. thank you very much- — senior conservative mp. thank you very much. what's _ senior conservative mp. thank you very much. what's to _ senior conservative mp. thank you very much. what's to absorb, - senior conservative mp. thank you very much. what's to absorb, lots| senior conservative mp. thank you i very much. what's to absorb, lots to chew over. the minister for legal migration is tom pursglove, and he's here to talk to you from the central lobby in parliament. thank you for speaking to our audience. you have got your bill through. can you tell the voters who support your plan when the first plane could take off?— support your plan when the first plane could take off? well, we have been really — plane could take off? well, we have been really clear— plane could take off? well, we have been really clear that _ plane could take off? well, we have been really clear that we _ plane could take off? well, we have been really clear that we want - plane could take off? well, we have been really clear that we want to . been really clear that we want to operationalise the rwanda policy as quickly as policy. every day that goes by is a day where we see people risking their lives in the channel, organised by evil criminal gangs. that is why i think it is really important that the bill has gone to the house of lords with a significant majority, having had very considerable scrutiny on the floor of the house of commons over the last couple of days. it has gone unamended, and i hope the house of lords will get on to consider the speu lords will get on to consider the spell and get it passed so that we

can operationalise this plan and save lives. d0 can operationalise this plan and save lives-_ can operationalise this plan and save lives-— can operationalise this plan and save lives. ., ., , ., save lives. do have any idea when? that is what — save lives. do have any idea when? that is what voters _ save lives. do have any idea when? that is what voters are _ save lives. do have any idea when? that is what voters are asking. - save lives. do have any idea when? that is what voters are asking. we l that is what voters are asking. we will that is what voters are asking. - will operationalise as soon as we are able to. the fact is that there will now be a consideration of this legislation in the house of lords. that is a matter for the house of lords in terms of how quickly they want to go about doing that. i would really urge them to get on and make good on this legislation to deliver its safe passage. there is a frustration out there any country, completely understandably, about a desire to see those evil criminal gangs put out of business, to get these costs in our asylum system under control. we have made real strides forward when you consider that last year the crossing numbers were reduced by over a third, arrivals from albania have fallen by 95%. this is the next really important step. i think people want to see action, and that is what this bill helps to facilitate. you to see action, and that is what this bill helps to facilitate.— bill helps to facilitate. you have not told us _ bill helps to facilitate. you have not told us when _ bill helps to facilitate. you have not told us when that _ bill helps to facilitate. you have not told us when that action - bill helps to facilitate. you have i not told us when that action might

be seen by voters, but let's move on. the home secretary told mps today that this bill was in complete compliance with international law. that is absolutely the opposite of what is on the front of his bill, as nickjust said. we are going to show it to our audience. i am unable to make a statement that in my view the provisions of the safety of rwanda bill are compatible with the convention rights. but the government nevertheless wishes the house to proceed with the spell. they cannot both be right, so which is it? —— proceed with this bill. he is it? -- proceed with this bill. he said on is it? —— proceed with this bill. he: said on the floor of the house at the third reading that this legislation is in accordance with our international obligations. that is not what _ our international obligations. that is not what it _ our international obligations. that is not what it says _ our international obligations. that is not what it says on the front of the bill. ,., ., is not what it says on the front of the bill. , ., ., ., ., the bill. the government of rwanda have been very _ the bill. the government of rwanda have been very clear— the bill. the government of rwanda have been very clear about - the bill. the government of rwanda have been very clear about this - the bill. the government of rwanda have been very clear about this as l have been very clear about this as well. ., we have been very clear about this as well-- we are _ have been very clear about this as well.- we are confident... i have been very clear about this as well.- we are confident... well. no... we are confident... i'm iioin to

well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose _ well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose you _ well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose you right _ well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose you right there. - well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose you right there. i - well. no... we are confident... i'm going to pose you right there. i am j going to pose you right there. i am not asking about the government of rwanda. i not asking about the government of rwanda. ., ., , not asking about the government of rwanda. . . , ., not asking about the government of rwanda. . ., , ., , ., not asking about the government of rwanda. . ., , ., ., rwanda. i have answered on behalf of the uk government. _ rwanda. i have answered on behalf of the uk government. you _ rwanda. i have answered on behalf of the uk government. you have - rwanda. i have answered on behalf of the uk government. you have not- the uk government. you have not answered why _ the uk government. you have not answered why there _ the uk government. you have not answered why there have - the uk government. you have not answered why there have been . the uk government. you have not| answered why there have been two opposing statements, one from james cleverley in the house and the wording of what he has on the front of his bill. haste wording of what he has on the front of his bill. ~ ., , wording of what he has on the front of his bill. ~ . , . ., of his bill. we are very clear. the home secretary _ of his bill. we are very clear. the home secretary said _ of his bill. we are very clear. the home secretary said that - of his bill. we are very clear. the home secretary said that this - home secretary said that this legislation is in accordance with international obligations. what we are doing is moving forward in a way that response very clearly to the supreme court's previous ruling about the situation back in 2022. we have responded, working in partnership with the rwandan government, to the issues of challenge, those concerns raised. the treaty reflects that, the legislation reflects that and seeks to entrain it. the prime minister has made very clear that what we are not going to have as a foreign court stopping us from operationalising this policy. that is why we have included any legislation that it will be for a government minister to

decide if we act in accordance with rule 39. ~ , decide if we act in accordance with rule 39.~ , ., , �* decide if we act in accordance with rule39.~ , ., ,�* decide if we act in accordance with rule39. , ., ,�* ., rule 39. why doesn't it say on the front of the _ rule 39. why doesn't it say on the front of the bell, _ rule 39. why doesn't it say on the front of the bell, then, _ rule 39. why doesn't it say on the front of the bell, then, this - rule 39. why doesn't it say on the front of the bell, then, this bill. front of the bell, then, this bill is compatible with the european convention on human rights? you will recoinise convention on human rights? you will recognise that — convention on human rights? you will recognise that there _ convention on human rights? you will recognise that there are _ convention on human rights? you will recognise that there are many - recognise that there are many different views expressed by people during the passage of the legislation... during the passage of the legislation. . ._ during the passage of the leiislation... ., ., ., , ., legislation... you are answering a ruestion legislation. .. you are answering a question i— legislation... you are answering a question i have _ legislation... you are answering a question i have not _ legislation... you are answering a question i have not asked. - legislation... you are answering a question i have not asked. but. legislation... you are answering a | question i have not asked. but the prime minister _ question i have not asked. but the prime minister and _ question i have not asked. but the prime minister and the _ question i have not asked. but the prime minister and the home - prime minister and the home secretary have been consistently clear that this legislation is in accordance with our international obligations and we will proceed on that basis. flan obligations and we will proceed on that basis. ., , ., ., ., obligations and we will proceed on that basis. ., , ., . . . that basis. can you guarantee that two voters that _ that basis. can you guarantee that two voters that any _ that basis. can you guarantee that two voters that any planes - that basis. can you guarantee that two voters that any planes will. that basis. can you guarantee that| two voters that any planes will take off before the general election? it is just a yes or no. taste off before the general election? it isjust a yes or no.— isjust a yes or no. we are absolutely _ isjust a yes or no. we are absolutely determined - isjust a yes or no. we are absolutely determined to | absolutely determined to operationalise this policy. you will recognise the legislation is an important step to do that. we have responded directly to those issues raised in the court's judgment. with the passage of that legislation, i see absolutely no reason whatsoever

as to why we cannot get on and operationalise these flights and send a plane to rwanda. getting under control these costs in the asylum system and also very directly responding to the challenge of evil criminal gangs putting people's lives at risk in the channel, which i think all of us think is completely unacceptable. the i think all of us think is com - letel unacce table. completely unacceptable. the prime minister has — completely unacceptable. the prime minister has promised _ completely unacceptable. the prime minister has promised 150 _ completely unacceptable. the prime minister has promised 150 extra - minister has promised 150 extra judges and the freeing up of courts to hear any rwanda appeals swiftly, which some of your mps have told me that you are expecting multiple appeals. i heard from a rape survivor today who waited almost five years under your government for her alleged rapist to be brought to court. she said to me, the fact that you can find judges for rwanda cases irrefutably signalled to her that rape is not seen by this government as serious. those are her words. she may well be watching now. what do you say to her? mi; may well be watching now. what do vou say to her?— may well be watching now. what do you say to her?— you say to her? my message to her would be that _ you say to her? my message to her would be that rape _ you say to her? my message to her would be that rape is _ you say to her? my message to her

would be that rape is absolutely - would be that rape is absolutely considered to be of the upmost priority of this government, in terms of responding to those issues, bringing to justice perpetrators of terrible crimes, such as rape and violence against women and girls. what we are seeing is colleagues in the ministry ofjustice putting additional resource into getting perpetrators in front of courts. we saw greater numbers last year that has been the case for some considerable time. we will continue to place a real emphasis on that. what must happen is that must be dealt with with the utmost seriousness... dealt with with the utmost seriousness. . ._ dealt with with the utmost seriousness... ~ , ., �* seriousness... why don't you employ some extra — seriousness... why don't you employ some extra judges _ seriousness... why don't you employ some extra judges to _ seriousness... why don't you employ some extra judges to bring _ seriousness... why don't you employ some extra judges to bring those - some extra judges to bring those rape cases to court, like you are doing with the rwanda appeals? rishi sunak has clicked his fingers and it is happening, so it can be done. we are is happening, so it can be done. - are making sure that perpetrators are making sure that perpetrators are appearing in front of courts in greater numbers. again, i make the point, i have said it already, it is important to make this point, that what we are seeing is every time people get into small boats to cross the channel, they are putting their

lives at risk. we saw that last weekend to stop that as of the utmost seriousness, as well. we must treat both of these issues with the seriousness of the british people would expect. we are responding very directly to the issue of getting through cases, delivering prosecutions, it is absolutely the right thing to do, but also responding very strongly to this issue of criminality of coming across the channel, putting people's lives at risk. you across the channel, putting people's lives at risk-— lives at risk. you have essentially ianored lives at risk. you have essentially ignored the _ lives at risk. you have essentially ignored the supreme _ lives at risk. you have essentially ignored the supreme court - lives at risk. you have essentially ignored the supreme court rulingj ignored the supreme court ruling with this legislation to say rwanda is actually safe. you are loosely promising to ignore interim injunctions from the european court of human rights, which the uk helped set up after world war ii. you're prepared to overrule the independent judiciary to allocate specific what you want them to work on. you cannot claim to be the party of law and order any longer, claim to be the party of law and orderany longer, can claim to be the party of law and order any longer, can you?

claim to be the party of law and orderany longer, can you? taste claim to be the party of law and order any longer, can you? we are the -a order any longer, can you? we are the party of _ order any longer, can you? we are the party of law— order any longer, can you? we are the party of law and _ order any longer, can you? we are the party of law and order - order any longer, can you? we are the party of law and order that - order any longer, can you? we are the party of law and order that is l the party of law and order that is putting increasing numbers of police officers on our streets, delivering that 20,000... i officers on our streets, delivering that 20,000...— officers on our streets, delivering that 20,000... i have 'ust given you some examples h that 20,000. .. i have 'ust given you some examples of— that 20,000... i have just given you some examples of where _ that 20,000... i have just given you some examples of where you - that 20,000... i have just given you some examples of where you are - some examples of where you are ignoring thejudiciary. you some examples of where you are ignoring the judiciary.— some examples of where you are ignoring the judiciary. ignoring the 'udiciary. you asked me whether we ignoring the judiciary. you asked me whether we are _ ignoring the judiciary. you asked me whether we are still _ ignoring the judiciary. you asked me whether we are still the _ ignoring the judiciary. you asked me whether we are still the party - ignoring the judiciary. you asked me whether we are still the party of - whether we are still the party of law and order, i am setting out a very strong case as to why that continues to be so. but it is also right that we prioritise this issue of illegal migration. we are spending vast sums of money daily in responding to that challenge. lives are at stake here, and i think that is something that is right and properfor is something that is right and proper for government is something that is right and properfor government to is something that is right and proper for government to take a proper, thoroughgoing look at and to respond in robust terms. fine proper, thoroughgoing look at and to respond in robust terms.— respond in robust terms. one final question--- _ respond in robust terms. one final question... one _ respond in robust terms. one final question... one final— respond in robust terms. one final question... one final question - respond in robust terms. one final question... one final question if. respond in robust terms. one final question... one final question if i l question... one final question if i may, if this legislation works, you will be able to get around 200 people a year to rwanda to begin with. the backlog is around 100,000. for example, if you wanted to send

all of those to rwanda, and i'm not suggesting you well, but let's take that because it is a round number, that because it is a round number, that would take 500 years. so we have said there is not a cap on this scheme, with rwandaing but it has never been the intention to send everyone who has already arrived to rwanda, it changes very considerably the dynamic for new crossings that happen or if individual seek to cross the channel individual seek to cross the channel in boats there is a reasonable expectation they would be relocated to rwanda but there are retrospectivety provisions that mean that individuals who have already arrived in this country, via small boats could find they are relocated to rwanda. as i have said we think this is a really important part of the overarching plan we are delivering at as a government to tackle this issue, it is delivering results through the steps we have taken but we need to move on and

deliver this legislation to make this happen. thank you for speaking to thank you for speaking to our audience tonight. former minister sirjacob rees—mogg voted against the government yesterday, and today on a total of three amendments to the bill. but tonight, sirjacob, tell our viewers how you voted on the third reading. i supported the government on third reading as i had on second reading. why? reading as i had on second reading. wh ? �* , , , , ., why? because the bill is better than the status quo. _ why? because the bill is better than the status quo, that _ why? because the bill is better than the status quo, that will— why? because the bill is better than the status quo, that will it _ why? because the bill is better than the status quo, that will it will - the status quo, that will it will make it easier to remove people to rwanda from the current situation, very importantly you mentioned the supreme courtjudgement, it says that rwanda is is a safe country. the courts simply interpret what parliament has passed an parliament said that rwanda is safe, so that changes effectively the supreme courtjudgement, so that is important, that is better than it was, i voted for the amendments, because i thought the bill could be better still and you asked the minister the important question of when will if flights go, and it

seems to many if our amendments had been adopted the flight would go sooner or later in the next sixth months. b. sooner or later in the next sixth months. �* ~ ., ., , ., , months. a week ago you tweeted this. it wasn't amended. _ months. a week ago you tweeted this. it wasn't amended. please _ months. a week ago you tweeted this. it wasn't amended. please let - months. a week ago you tweeted this. it wasn't amended. please let me - it wasn't amended. please let me finish. it wasn't amended therefore the loopholes are still there in your view and you voted for it. because it better than the status quo. that is not what you said six days ago. quo. that is not what you said six da s aio. quo. that is not what you said six dasaio. ., ,., , days ago. the loopholes are still there. days ago. the loopholes are still there- what _ days ago. the loopholes are still there. what i _ days ago. the loopholes are still there. what i said _ days ago. the loopholes are still there. what i said was _ days ago. the loopholes are still there. what i said was to - days ago. the loopholes are still there. what i said was to that i days ago. the loopholes are still| there. what i said was to that the bill will not work, with these loopholes, in the available. now that bit isn't in the tweet, but that bit isn't in the tweet, but thatis that bit isn't in the tweet, but that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. _ that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. that _ that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. that is _ that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. that is what - that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. that is what i - that is what i was saying. that was the full tweet. that is what i said l the full tweet. that is what i said in the programme _ the full tweet. that is what i said in the programme and _ the full tweet. that is what i said in the programme and downing l the full tweet. that is what i said - in the programme and downing street is a paraphrase. i can in the programme and downing street is a paraphrase-— is a paraphrase. i can read you the iuote is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because _ is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because i — is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because i watched _ is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because i watched it - is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because i watched it all - is a paraphrase. i can read you the quote because i watched it all thatj quote because i watched it all that you said six days ago. as it stand

this will not stop the boat, passing an ineffective bill would be hopeless, that is your words. i think there is a risk and that is the point you raise with the minister, that this bill will not lead to people leaving fast enough. that is the, that is the weakness. that is the, that is the weakness. that is the weakness.— that is the, that is the weakness. that is the weakness. because last week ou that is the weakness. because last week you say _ that is the weakness. because last week you say it _ that is the weakness. because last week you say it is _ that is the weakness. because last week you say it is ineffective. - that is the weakness. because last week you say it is ineffective. you | week you say it is ineffective. you said it is parliamentary wallpaper and it won't stop the boats and this week you vote for it. i and it won't stop the boats and this week you vote for it.— week you vote for it. i vote for it because it _ week you vote for it. i vote for it because it is _ week you vote for it. i vote for it because it is better _ week you vote for it. i vote for it because it is better than - week you vote for it. i vote for it because it is better than what i week you vote for it. i vote for it| because it is better than what we have currently got. pare because it is better than what we have currently got.— have currently got. are you a hypocrite- — have currently got. are you a hypocrite- of— have currently got. are you a hypocrite. of course - have currently got. are you a hypocrite. of course not. - have currently got. are you a| hypocrite. of course not. the judgement — hypocrite. of course not. the judgement of _ hypocrite. of course not. the judgement of the _ hypocrite. of course not. the judgement of the supreme i hypocrite. of course not. the i judgement of the supreme court hypocrite. of course not. the - judgement of the supreme court that said rwanda was not safe, stopped the policy all together. i think we could have had a better and stronger bill, would have led to people leaving sooner. i bill, would have led to people leaving sooner.— bill, would have led to people leaving sooner. we leaving sooner. i understand that we have a bill with _ leaving sooner. i understand that we have a bill with loopholes _ leaving sooner. i understand that we have a bill with loopholes in - leaving sooner. i understand that we have a bill with loopholes in it. - have a bill with loopholes in it. it. ~ . have a bill with loopholes in it. it. . ,. , it. which you describe as ineffective which - it. which you describe as ineffective which i - it. which you describe as ineffective which i think | it. which you describe as. ineffective which i think is it. which you describe as - ineffective which i think is going to be harder _ ineffective which i think is going to be harder to _ ineffective which i think is going to be harder to make _ ineffective which i think is going

to be harder to make effective. | ineffective which i think is going - to be harder to make effective. this is consistent, it better than what we had immediately after the judgement. but we had immediately after the judgement-— we had immediately after the 'udiement. �* ., , i] judgement. but your words were... i city think- -- — judgement. but your words were... i city think- -- it _ judgement. but your words were... i city think... it will _ judgement. but your words were... i city think... it will not _ judgement. but your words were... i city think... it will not work. - judgement. but your words were... i city think... it will not work. . - city think... it will not work. . time will _ city think... it will not work. . time will tell. _ city think... it will not work. . time will tell. i _ city think... it will not work. . time will tell. i would - city think... it will not work. . time will tell. i would be - city think... it will not work. . - time will tell. i would be delighted if i turn out to be wrong. but time will tell. i would be delighted if i turn out to be wrong.— if i turn out to be wrong. but you said to stop _ if i turn out to be wrong. but you said to stop illegal _ if i turn out to be wrong. but you said to stop illegal migration - if i turn out to be wrong. but youj said to stop illegal migration this bill will not work. i said to stop illegal migration this bill will not work.— bill will not work. i would have been in favour _ bill will not work. i would have been in favour of _ bill will not work. i would have been in favour of tighten, - bill will not work. i would have been in favour of tighten, it, l bill will not work. i would have - been in favour of tighten, it, which is why i voted for the amendments but i still think... ih is why i voted for the amendments but i still think. . ._ but i still think. .. in the end you voted for _ but i still think. .. in the end you voted for a _ but i still think. .. in the end you voted for a bill _ but i still think. .. in the end you voted for a bill you _ but i still think. .. in the end you voted for a bill you have - but i still think. .. in the end you voted for a bill you have already| voted for a bill you have already told people will not work. this is completely _ told people will not work. this is completely consistent, - told people will not work. this is completely consistent, because | told people will not work. this is| completely consistent, because it has... ., completely consistent, because it has- - -- yes. _ completely consistent, because it has. . .- yes, compared - completely consistent, because it has. . .- yes, compared to | has... really? yes, compared to where we _ has... really? yes, compared to where we were _ has... really? yes, compared to where we were when _ has... really? yes, compared to where we were when we - has... really? yes, compared to where we were when we had - has... really? yes, compared to where we were when we had the | where we were when we had the judgement from the supreme court, which we knew couldn't work, so what i have said is an expression of opinion, from the fact of something that wouldn't work, to an opinion that wouldn't work, to an opinion that i think this is less likely to work than an amended bill torque a bill that i hope will work, but it is better than remaining with the status quo, that must be sensible. 0k. do you think this bill will now suddenly stop the boats then? i

don't think it will work speedily, because i think we will have more appeals. because i think we will have more a- eals. ~ , ., , because i think we will have more aueals. ~ , appeals. will it stop the boats? de-end appeals. will it stop the boats? depend on _ appeals. will it stop the boats? depend on your— appeals. will it stop the boats? depend on your time _ appeals. will it stop the boats? depend on your time frame. i appeals. will it stop the boats? l depend on your time frame. will it sto the depend on your time frame. will it stop the boats? _ depend on your time frame. will it stop the boats? if— depend on your time frame. will it stop the boats? if you _ depend on your time frame. will it stop the boats? if you are - depend on your time frame. will it stop the boats? if you are talking l stop the boats? if you are talking between now _ stop the boats? if you are talking between now end _ stop the boats? if you are talking between now end a _ stop the boats? if you are talking between now end a general i stop the boats? if you are talking i between now end a general election, i think it is unlikely we will see flights going before an election. will it stop the boats. ii flights going before an election. will it stop the boats.— will it stop the boats. if flights to it will will it stop the boats. if flights go it will stop _ will it stop the boats. if flights go it will stop the _ will it stop the boats. if flights go it will stop the boat, - will it stop the boats. if flights go it will stop the boat, but i will it stop the boats. if flights go it will stop the boat, but as| will it stop the boats. if flights | go it will stop the boat, but as i think they won't go it will be difficult to stop the boats without the strengthening. 50 it difficult to stop the boats without the strengthening.— the strengthening. so it is not iioin to the strengthening. so it is not going to work- _ the strengthening. so it is not going to work. i _ the strengthening. so it is not going to work. i hope - the strengthening. so it is not going to work. i hope it i the strengthening. so it is not going to work. i hope it will i the strengthening. so it is not i going to work. i hope it will work. of course you _ going to work. i hope it will work. of course you do _ going to work. i hope it will work. of course you do but _ going to work. i hope it will work. of course you do but you - going to work. i hope it will work. of course you do but you explain | going to work. i hope it will work. i of course you do but you explain why you think it won't work. i of course you do but you explain why you think it won't work.— you think it won't work. i think it is difficult _ you think it won't work. i think it is difficult for _ you think it won't work. i think it is difficult for it _ you think it won't work. i think it is difficult for it to _ you think it won't work. i think it is difficult for it to work, - you think it won't work. i think it is difficult for it to work, yes, i is difficult for it to work, yes, this is the key point, the point you are missing, it is better than the position we were in after the judgement of the supreme court, which absolutely definitely was never going to work. so this is an improvement on that, i simply think it could have been better had it been amended further. peopleton riiht been amended further. peopleton ri . ht of been amended further. peopleton right of the _ been amended further. peopleton right of the party. _ been amended further. peopleton right of the party, including i been amended further. peopleton right of the party, including you i right of the party, including you have failed to get one word of this

bill changed. is the right of the tory party a busted flush now? i think if you look at this bill overall, you are right, we didn't get a word of it changed, we got some commitments from the government about how they would use the bill, that are encouraging, but you were interviewing tom pursglove who is a minister and is on the right of the party, there are plenty of people on the right who are in government, so i wouldn't see it in that light, i would see it as everybody within the tory party wants to deal with the rwanda issue, and wants people to be removed. the labour party, the snp, the liberals they don't care, they seem to have no interest in dealing with the migration policy, you saw that in the third reading speeches when you had strong opposition to doing anything about it, and... you were listening _ doing anything about it, and... you were listening to nick watts insight, from the people he was talking to, and you know, people have asked what were the rebellions

for, is it about putting suella braverman front of centre ready for a leadership contest, before or after the election. i a leadership contest, before or after the election.— a leadership contest, before or after the election. i certainly hope not. that after the election. i certainly hope not- that is _ after the election. i certainly hope not. that is not _ after the election. i certainly hope not. that is not why _ after the election. i certainly hope not. that is not why i _ after the election. i certainly hope not. that is not why i was - not. that is not why i was supporting it. not. that is not why i was supporting it— not. that is not why i was supporting it. was it about triggering _ supporting it. was it about triggering no _ supporting it. was it about triggering no confidence i supporting it. was it about triggering no confidence inj supporting it. was it about i triggering no confidence in rishi sunak. ,, , triggering no confidence in rishi sunak. . , ., triggering no confidence in rishi sunak. ,, , ., ., ., triggering no confidence in rishi sunak, ,, , ., ., ., , sunak. surely not. not on my account. _ sunak. surely not. not on my account. no. _ sunak. surely not. not on my account, no, that _ sunak. surely not. not on my account, no, that would i sunak. surely not. not on my account, no, that would be i sunak. surely not. not on my i account, no, that would be foolish. i wonder if i can answer the important question. i wonder if i can answer the i important question.- i will important question. briefly. iwill be brief. the _ important question. briefly. iwill be brief. the home _ important question. briefly. iwill be brief. the home secretary i important question. briefly. iwill. be brief. the home secretary saying it was compatible with international law. it is possible, and there are opt outs within the convention, to override the convention within the convention itself, so you can be cot patable with our international legal agreenock morton agreement and still override part of the convention, so thatis override part of the convention, so that is completely proper, and he has said nothing wrong. i that is completely proper, and he has said nothing wrong.— that is completely proper, and he has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true. _ has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true, i _ has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true, i would _ has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true, i would need - has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true, i would need to i has said nothing wrong. i don't know if that is true, i would need to go i if that is true, i would need to go back and read the european commission. it back and read the european commission.— back and read the european commission. , , ., ., commission. it is the situation. thank you _ commission. it is the situation. thank you for— commission. it is the situation. thank you for being _ commission. it is the situation. thank you for being with i commission. it is the situation. thank you for being with us. i commission. it is the situation. i thank you for being with us. thank you

0ur uk editor sima kotecha is tonight going to share her story of her aunt who took her own life more than 30 years ago. through her story — and her mum's — she explores the reluctance among some people of south asian heritage to seek help for their mental health. south asian immigrants in this country and north america exhibit a higher susceptibility to various mental disorders, particularly depression and anxiety, than their non—immigrant counterparts in the host countries. that's according to the medical journal the lancet. it also says traditional cultural values and expectations mean that mental health might be viewed as a sign of weakness or personalfailing. this, we know, can lead to a reluctance to seek help or talk openly about mental health struggles, which can exacerbate the effects of trauma. here's sima's film. i'm so proud to be of south asian heritage, and there's so much i love about being from this background. hello! hello, sima. but there is also a reluctance from some to talk about mental

health, to speak about depression or anxiety, there is a taboo there. and the problem with not speaking about it is that it can lead to horrific consequences. and it is something my own family has experienced. when i was 12, my aunt took her own life. for my mum, hansa, that day 32 years ago will be one she will never forget. she was such a strong lady, and suddenly her character changed. very quiet, she was losing weight, she wasn't eating. so my eldest brother, he decided to send her to india, and we would look after her, and we will go and see the doctors. and did she ever talk to you about her depression? i said, "what's wrong with you? why are you going like this? you know, you are so quiet, you don't talk to anyone, you are not happy." "no, i'm fine. don't worry."

at that time, our people, they were not that open. they always hide things, you know? what society will say, what the family will say? still in our community, you know, people really look down if you tell them that he is suffering with depression. you know, even if you want to take depression tablets, they say, "don't tell them that you are taking depression tablets." i remember vividly coming into the kitchen because you took a phone call that she had died. she was flying on that day, and she committed suicide on that morning. i ran into the kitchen because i heard you scream and you fell on the floor. do you remember that moment? it's ok, mum. yes. it's 32 years now.

but it still doesn't get out from my mind, you know. i still can see her face. i remember it vividly, my mum breaking the news to me, and it had such a profound effect on me, and it took me ages to even process what that meant. and i think i am still struggling to process how bad she must have felt for her to see that that was the only avenue out for her. the saddest part is, there is help out there. it is just overcoming that fear of discussing the fact that you do not feel 0k. it is something dr punam did ten years ago when she suffered from postnatal depression after a difficult birth. i found my mood just dropping, and ijust became lower and lower. i got to a point where i was having such a dark and negative thoughts

that life wasn't worth living. ijust remember that time being so alone. and i think, coming from an indian background, as well, you know, you feel embarrassed, you feel vulnerable, you feel that you are going to be judged. what do you think that people in that community think about mental health? mental health isjust something that was never spoken about amongst my elders. you know, mental itself in punjabi or hindi is translated as crazy. so you kind of think that actually you are doomed from the beginning when there is no understanding, there is no appreciation that mental health is actually an illness. as a result, you end up then feeling that i can't speak about it, and it can lead to all sorts of awful consequences. as a gp, do you yourself see this reluctance from certain communities to speak about mental health? absolutely, i do. speaking about it is hard, no matter who you are. but then if we look at people and the barriers that they might be facing, regularly in the south asian

community, you know, itjust adds more and more layers to that complexity. i guess my biggest message is to say that, you know, there is so much support out there, no matter who you are, which background you come from, so we should all feel comfortable to seek the help and support and that there is that, especially in the nhs. someone else offering support is shuranjeet singh. he is the founder of taraki, an organisation encouraging punjabi community is to be more open about their mental health. talk me through what help is out there. actually, there is a lot of different types of support out there, but the challenge we have is connecting people who need the support, actually supporting them in the ways that make sense to them. an english speaking world, then conversations around mental health might be really hard for people to connect with. mental health is spoken about so much more openly now than it was when i was younger. so, are you hopeful that that will lead to more people in this

community talking about it? what gets me up, what drives me every day is the hope in this work. i do feel very, very hopeful and very optimistic for mental health work within our communities. so there is actually a way that younger generations here can open up space for older generations to have these conversations. i have come to the basingstoke indian association, where this group of women meet every week to speak about their mental health. everybody can come and share their experience, share their... whatever problems are there, you know. so it helps. don't keep it in your mind, don't keep it in your brain because then itjust affects your health. i felt depressed many, many times. i didn't have any friends at that time. to talk to. to talk to, except my husband. but definitely i made friends here now. when my husband passed away, it takes something out of you, you know, and then you don't believe anything, you don't want to do anything.

but to come out of that bereavement, you need all these things around you. there is no single solution when it comes to reducing the risk of someone taking their own life, but groups which allow all cultures to share their thoughts is a step in the right direction in helping to end the stigma surrounding mental health. do you hope that things will change? i hope and pray. please, talk to people, friends, you know, in the community. they will definitely help you. naz shah is the labour mp for bradford westand. and tanya marwaha, founder of a youth—led peer community championing youth minds is here. tanya attempted to take her own life when she was 13 yrs old. thank you very much for talking to us, tanya. thank you very much for talking to us, tan a.

thank you very much for talking to us. tanya-— us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching that because _ us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching that because there _ us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching that because there so _ us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching that because there so much - us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching that because there so much i i us, tanya. felt emotionalwatching| that because there so much i relate to, the experience they spoke about. i think it is the shame, the fear of shame, the fear of being an outsider, by speaking up is something that kept me quiet for a very long time. it is still a challenge i am overcoming. i think talking about it is the biggest thing we can do right now. like many people touched upon, there isn't the education, there isn't the right words in our language around mental health and depression and anxiety. i think those barriers really shaped by experience. to see organisations that they spoke about, i think that is really the hope i see, the light at the end of the tunnel that keeps me going in what i do. bud at the end of the tunnel that keeps me going in what i do.— at the end of the tunnel that keeps me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know ou me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know you relate _ me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know you relate to _ me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know you relate to some _ me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know you relate to some of - me going in what i do. and naz shah, i know you relate to some of those i i know you relate to some of those experiences because you have talked in the past of experiencing suicidal thoughts. i in the past of experiencing suicidal thou:hts. ., in the past of experiencing suicidal thou:hts. . ., , . thoughts. i had two suicide

attempts- _ thoughts. i had two suicide attempts. had _ thoughts. i had two suicide attempts. had my - thoughts. i had two suicidej attempts. had my stomach thoughts. i had two suicide - attempts. had my stomach pumped twice _ attempts. had my stomach pumped twice the _ attempts. had my stomach pumped twice. the 2017 election, i felt suicide — twice. the 2017 election, i felt suicide. and i have chaired a mental health_ suicide. and i have chaired a mental health charity, one of the largest mental health charities outside of london _ mental health charities outside of london for black and minority ethnic communities in bradford. i am acutely aware of my own demons when it concerns my own mental health. i am really— it concerns my own mental health. i am really passionate about it because _ am really passionate about it because i know in the last few months we have had two suicide in my constituency, young 43—year—old and another lady — constituency, young 43—year—old and another lady who literally let herself — another lady who literally let herself on fire. her child walked in, herself on fire. her child walked in. and he — herself on fire. her child walked in, and he was the one that found her burning in the kitchen. this is literally less than a few months

ago it— literally less than a few months ago it is a _ literally less than a few months ago. it is a very real issue. as tanya said. _ ago. it is a very real issue. as tanya said, there is no word for it. the manifestation of mental health, and my— the manifestation of mental health, and my mum's generation, there is different challenges for women, and women _ different challenges for women, and women love notjust women, men as well, _ women love notjust women, men as well, the suicide rates are much highen — well, the suicide rates are much higher. when i used to be a samaritan, one of the reasons i went into that work was to understand my own mental— into that work was to understand my own mental health responses and also how we _ own mental health responses and also how we respond to others. it takes a lot of— how we respond to others. it takes a lot of lime — how we respond to others. it takes a lot oftime. naz how we respond to others. it takes a lot of time-— lot of time. naz was talking about her mum's generation, _ lot of time. naz was talking about her mum's generation, i - lot of time. naz was talking about her mum's generation, i wonder. lot of time. naz was talking about| her mum's generation, i wonder if younger people of south asian heritage struggle in a different way to say, your parents or grandparents' generation. tithe to say, your parents or grandparents' generation. to say, your parents or i-randarents' teneration. ., grandparents' generation. one of the thins i grandparents' generation. one of the things i have — grandparents' generation. one of the things i have struggled _ grandparents' generation. one of the things i have struggled with - grandparents' generation. one of the things i have struggled with is - grandparents' generation. one of the things i have struggled with is my i things i have struggled with is my identity as a british indian. feeling i am not british enough or not indian enough. i think those experiences are a stark contrast to other parents' generation or grandparents' generation, who emigrated from south asia and faced lots of different challenges. i think one of the barriers a lot of young people in our community that i speak to and myself face is communicating those experiences and making sure they are validated, as well as the experiences of our older generations. pare well as the experiences of our older generations-—

generations. are there enough nhs professionals _ generations. are there enough nhs professionals with _ generations. are there enough nhs professionals with knowledge i generations. are there enough nhs professionals with knowledge of i professionals with knowledge of cultural background, cultural differences who would be able to help more? i differences who would be able to help more?— differences who would be able to hel more? ~' ., ., , ., help more? i think there are lots of initiatives that _ help more? i think there are lots of initiatives that have _ help more? i think there are lots of initiatives that have been _ help more? i think there are lots of initiatives that have been set i help more? i think there are lots of initiatives that have been set up. i initiatives that have been setup. bradford — initiatives that have been setup. bradford had an implementation site following _ bradford had an implementation site following an inquiry many years ago. you have _ following an inquiry many years ago. you have got cultural competence services _ you have got cultural competence services for people, you have got those _ services for people, you have got those groups that we just saw on the peace _ those groups that we just saw on the peace there, which i think was really— peace there, which i think was really brave. those that allow women to come _ really brave. those that allow women to come together, allow people to come _ to come together, allow people to come together and just be able to say those — come together and just be able to say those words, that depression... it is say those words, that depression... it is 0k_ say those words, that depression... it is 0k to _ say those words, that depression... it is 0k to be — say those words, that depression... it is ok to be angry when you have -ot it is ok to be angry when you have got issues — it is ok to be angry when you have got issues you are dealing with, it is 0k_ got issues you are dealing with, it is 0k to _ got issues you are dealing with, it is ok to express those. i think there — is ok to express those. i think there is— is ok to express those. i think there is a _ is ok to express those. i think there is a difference but for boys. it is there is a difference but for boys. it is not _ there is a difference but for boys. it is noliusl— there is a difference but for boys. it is notjust a south asian issue, we tell— it is notjust a south asian issue, we tell boys— it is notjust a south asian issue, we tell boys when they have hurt themselves, it is ok, you are a lad, -et themselves, it is ok, you are a lad, gel on _ themselves, it is ok, you are a lad, gel on with— themselves, it is ok, you are a lad, gel on with it — themselves, it is ok, you are a lad, get on with it. when i get a hot yourself, — get on with it. when i get a hot yourself, come here, we will take care of— yourself, come here, we will take care of you — yourself, come here, we will take care of you. that tells boys that they— care of you. that tells boys that they have — care of you. that tells boys that they have to suck it up and not express—

they have to suck it up and not express emotions. the suicide rate among _ express emotions. the suicide rate among men— express emotions. the suicide rate among men and young boys is higher. then add _ among men and young boys is higher. then add culture and identity into the mix. — then add culture and identity into the mix, the next challenge for us is social— the mix, the next challenge for us is social media. my 19—year—old, i61-year-old,— is social media. my 19—year—old, 16—year—old, their body image, their conversations they are having on social— conversations they are having on social media, the algorithms, where they are _ social media, the algorithms, where they are taking them, amongst young people _ they are taking them, amongst young people in_ they are taking them, amongst young people in the covid generation. all of that— people in the covid generation. all of that is— people in the covid generation. all of that is coming down the track. i am not _ of that is coming down the track. i am not convinced that we have the systems _ am not convinced that we have the systems in — am not convinced that we have the systems in place to respond to those that are _ systems in place to respond to those that are coming down the track. would _ that are coming down the track. would you — that are coming down the track. would you agree with that? 100%. i think that would you agree with that? 10096. i think that a — would you agree with that? 10096. i think that a lot — would you agree with that? 10096. i think that a lot of different - think that a lot of different factors that intersect. when you add the cultural context into this, it amplifies the issue. i think the struggle to be able to speak up and communicate mental health difficulties within our community is a big barrier to notjust seeking support but also leading to incidences like suicide. ih support but also leading to incidences like suicide. in your oinion, incidences like suicide. in your opinion. why _ incidences like suicide. in your opinion. why is _ incidences like suicide. in your opinion, why is there - incidences like suicide. in your opinion, why is there such i incidences like suicide. in your opinion, why is there such a i opinion, why is there such a particular stigma amongst south

asians? i particular stigma amongst south asians? ~ , . particular stigma amongst south asians? ~' , . ., asians? i think we perceive mental health difficulties _ asians? i think we perceive mental health difficulties as _ asians? i think we perceive mental health difficulties as a _ asians? i think we perceive mental health difficulties as a failing i asians? i think we perceive mental health difficulties as a failing on i health difficulties as a failing on a person or a failing on parents. maybe they have brought up their child wrong, they have done something wrong. 0r child wrong, they have done something wrong. or if you look at it from a religious perspective, maybe they are not religious enough or they have disrespected god. i think there are lots of different assumptions as to the reason behind someone's difficulties will stop i think the way to tackle that is education and awareness, really fundamentally educating our community around what mental health is, what does mental health look like's i think that will empower our community do notjust look after themselves but support each other in themselves but support each other in the right way. themselves but support each other in the right way-— the right way. thank you both are very much- _ the right way. thank you both are very much- i _ the right way. thank you both are very much. i really _ the right way. thank you both are very much. i really appreciate i the right way. thank you both are l very much. i really appreciate your time, thank you for coming on. if you want to talk to anyone about any of the issues we have raised this evening, you can contact bbc action line on bbc.co.uk/actionline or 0800 066 066.

there are loads of organisations that are waiting to help you if you need them. israel and hamas have agreed a new deal to allow increased humanitarian aid into the gaza strip on the condition that israeli hostages receive medication in return. it comes just days after the heads of un agencies warned of the growing risk of famine in the territory. but the damage being done by this war isn'tjust physical. from inside gaza, we have footage filmed exclusively for the bbc, with children, on the impact the war is having on their mental health, as well as the struggles of the families of the israeli hostages. 0ur international correspondent joe inwood reports. the physical destruction of gaza is hard to comprehend. it's thought it's being destroyed at a faster rate than syria's aleppo or ukraine's mariupol. but not all destruction is visible,

not all scars are physical. these are the children of gaza, forced to flee their homes and now living in camps. many of the children here are too young to understand what is happening. suhaf is not. the whine of drones overhead is constant.