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live from london. this is bbc news a bill to deport some asylum seekers from the uk to rwanda passes a vote in the house of commons — rishi sunak calls it a "major step" to stop migrants boats crossing the english channel. we're expecting a news conference from the prime minister in just over 15 minutes — at downing street — we'll head there live when that starts. pakistan carries out overnight strikes on what it calls �*terrorist hideouts�* in iran's border province — two days after iranian attacks on pakistani soil. hello, i'm lauren taylor. the uk prime minister, rishi sunak, is shortly to speak about the rwanda asylum policy.
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last night, he saw off a rebellion of right wing conservatives — and successfully steered legislation through the house of commons. the government won the vote with a majority of 1m. mr sunak argues that the rwanda plan will deter people from crossing the english channel in small boats from france. our political correspondent peter saull reports. the ayes to the right 320, the noes to the left, 276. a government victory, in the end by a relatively comfortable margin. but at times this was in doubt. 61 conservative mps tried but failed to change the legislation, including the former home secretary. this bill needs to work. it is our last chance. if we get it wrong, the british people will not forgive us and they would be right to do so. most of her colleagues fell back into line, but she was one of 11 conservatives to rebel in the main vote. and this is what the latest tory row is all about —
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a plan to dissuade people from getting in boats by saying, "if you come to the uk like this, we'll send you here to rwanda, where you'll have your asylum claim processed and you can stay." but the scheme has been beset by problems. borisjohnson was prime minister when the idea was first mooted nearly two years ago. the first flight was blocked by the european court of human rights a few months later, and then, after a series of legal battles, the uk supreme court ruled that the policy was unlawful in november last year. so the bill going through parliament at the moment is to address the court's concerns and declare that rwanda is safe. this is a really important part of the jigsaw and i hope that the house of lords, bearing in mind that this bill has gone up unamended, will get on and deal with it and make sure that we can get this into law as quickly as possible and operationalise the rwanda plan. it's clear that the rwanda plan is unworkable, unaffordable and unlawful. what we've seen over the last two days isjust how weak rishi sunak is.
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having cleared the house of commons, the legislation will now go to the house of lords, where it's likely there'll be much more opposition. peter saull, bbc news. live now to westminster and our political correspondent, hannah miller. how damaging is this entire episode for the prime minister even though this legislation has begun passing through parliament? i this legislation has begun passing through parliament?— this legislation has begun passing through parliament? i think the fact the bill has now— through parliament? i think the fact the bill has now passed _ through parliament? i think the fact the bill has now passed through - through parliament? i think the fact the bill has now passed through the| the bill has now passed through the commons and the conservative party has managed to navigate that process, there will be a sense of relief in downing street about that. we are expecting to hear from the prime minister about it fairly shortly. and i think that is the language that will be coming from downing street is likely to be
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looking ahead, looking forward, trying to talk about getting this to work because while there was a rebellion last night, 11 conservative mps who voted against it, ultimately that is in the past and the question is whether it will have the effect that rishi sunak onceit have the effect that rishi sunak once it to heart, he has pledged to stop the boats completely and he wants to deter people from coming across the channel and seeking asylum in the uk. ultimately, if he manages to achieve that through this policy then everyone will kind of come on site but i think the question is how long it takes him to get flights of the ground and whether that then works in terms of deterring people but that is the aim and that is what will make a difference to how rishi sunak is perceived. difference to how rishi sunak is erceived. , ., , difference to how rishi sunak is perceived-— difference to how rishi sunak is erceived. , . , ., ., perceived. given as we heard that it has to no perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to — perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to the _ perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to the house _ perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to the house of _ perceived. given as we heard that it has to go to the house of lords - has to go to the house of lords first, what is the timetable, people being sent to rwanda, how many months and weeks is it likely to be?
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we heard from the government this morning they are hoping to get flights going in the spring, one could say that is quite a broad timescale, you can define spring as march, april, may, buti timescale, you can define spring as march, april, may, but i think realistically we are looking at this going to the house of lords and that then has to come back to the house of commons if the law who wants —— if the lords try to make changes which i think i will try to do so you are probably looking at the end of march, i am speculating slightly hypothetically, roughly i think that is what we are looking at in terms of when it might actually end up on the statute book and there is the question of whether there will be legal challenges brought by other organisations. we are not sure at the moment. i think the government still insists they want to get the first flights off the ground in the spring, that is what they say they are working to and we might hear more from rishi sunak shortly. but
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whether it actually will happen, i think there are still questions over that. ., .. , , , think there are still questions over that. ., , , , ., that. politically he benefits from all of this, _ that. politically he benefits from all of this, the _ that. politically he benefits from all of this, the fact _ that. politically he benefits from all of this, the fact there - that. politically he benefits from all of this, the fact there have i all of this, the fact there have been divisions within the conservative party even though they will paper them over at the last minute, he benefits politically? the minute, he benefits politically? tie: conservative minute, he benefits politically? tue: conservative party will minute, he benefits politically? tue conservative party will try to say labour does not have a plan for their pledge to stop the boats. i am not sure really whether that necessarily sticks, in the minds of voters they have seen the conservative party argue among itself about whether they have the right piece of legislation so the labour party certainly will be hoping to capitalise on the idea that the conservative party is divided. we note the conservative party themselves was told by its own election advice that divided parties do not win general elections. so i think in that sense the opposition parties are the ones who will be
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seeking to benefit from this. but as i say, i think the big question really in the minds of voters is about immigration policy, who voters believe has a plan, whether it's stop the boats or use another phrase, controlled migration into the uk. who voters believe on that particular issue, whether they believe in the conservative party or the labour party. or many other parties, i should say!— the labour party. or many other parties, i should say! thank you so much. live now to katy balls, the political editor of the spectator. how do you view the fallout from rishi sunak? fix, how do you view the fallout from rishi sunak?— how do you view the fallout from rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 mps, if you _ rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 mps, if you go — rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 mps, if you go back _ rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 mps, if you go back to _ rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 mps, if you go back to the - rishi sunak? a small rebellion, 11 j mps, if you go back to the second reading of the bill before christmas there was a lot of hype and noise from the rebels, talk that they could perhaps vote with labour to demolish the bill. that once again has been more talk than action.
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therefore the right of the party looking a slightly diminished force on the rhetoric and what they can do and rishi sunak are succeeded to the next stage however to get there we have had a week of tory psychodrama and i think we have had the tory selection strategist saying on monday a disunited party, people will not vote for it but one of the main takeaway from this is that the party is divided. tt is main takeaway from this is that the party is divided-— party is divided. it is an election ear, party is divided. it is an election year, obviously. _ party is divided. it is an election year, obviously. what _ party is divided. it is an election year, obviously. what about - party is divided. it is an election year, obviously. what about the opinion polls and what they are telling us about people whether, whether they see this immigration issue as an issue.— issue as an issue. general polling today suggest _ issue as an issue. general polling today suggest the _ issue as an issue. general polling today suggest the tories - issue as an issue. general polling today suggest the tories down i issue as an issue. general polling today suggest the tories down to | issue as an issue. general polling i today suggest the tories down to 20 points, suggesting electorally rishi sunak has a problem right now that will be hard to turn around ahead of the next election but in terms of specific policy areas the economy always seems to come out on top, but are scaring the most and that is what number ten downing street wants to care about but votes on migration
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and immigration are salient, thinking about the 2019 voters, the tories try to retain in the red bull seats and particularly those mps in those seats who think of all the issues, boats are the most important and having something to point you to say they have stopped the boats so i think it depends which part of the electorate you are looking at aren't the drives voters to go to other parties on the right such as the reform uk party.— parties on the right such as the reform uk party. back to the rebels who did not — reform uk party. back to the rebels who did not completely _ reform uk party. back to the rebels who did not completely rebel, - reform uk party. back to the rebels who did not completely rebel, howl who did not completely rebel, how dangerous are they for the leadership of rishi sunak and are there still noises about potential challenges to the leadership or not at this stage anymore?— challenges to the leadership or not at this stage anymore? there always talk when you _ at this stage anymore? there always talk when you speak _ at this stage anymore? there always talk when you speak to _ at this stage anymore? there always talk when you speak to mps - at this stage anymore? there always talk when you speak to mps who - at this stage anymore? there always talk when you speak to mps who are | talk when you speak to mps who are not happy, about s going in and some rebel saying they put in letters of no confidence yesterday but we must put it into context which is this is a very small of mps, not where the mainstream tory party is under
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but that said a coup or an thinking but that said a coup or an attempt to derail the prime minister does not have to be successful to create problems for the party and the government. i think the risk for rishi sunak is this group of rebels grows more unhappy potentially because of general polling, potentially because the flights to rwanda do not get to the point and they will say i told you so and it looks like this big distraction when the party wants to be uniting and taking the fight to the labour party and there could potentially be an
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attempt to remove or cause to remove rishi sunak, i do not think they have the numbers but the very act of doing so was damaging to the party and prime minister.— and prime minister. thank you very much for the _ and prime minister. thank you very much for the time _ and prime minister. thank you very much for the time being. _ and prime minister. thank you very much for the time being. we - and prime minister. thank you very much for the time being. we are i much for the time being. we are keeping an eye on the scene at downing street, we expect the prime minister rishi sunak to speak in around five minutes and we will bring you that as it happens. more now on pakistan confirming it carried out missile strikes inside iran targeting militants of pakistani origin. earlier, i spoke to our pakistan correspondent, caroline davies, who's in islamabad. early this morning we had a statement from the pakistan foreign ministry confirming pakistan had launched attacks on what they say are terrorist groups operating inside iran. this calls after iran admitted yesterday it had also carried out attacks inside the borders of pakistan on militant groups operating inside pakistan. this is a bit of an ongoing
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discussion between pakistan and iran and there have been a lot of accusations over the years that pakistan and iran accuse the other of harbouring terrorist militant groups inside the borders that then come across the border, carry out attacks and are able to go back across which makes it difficult for security forces to be to go and get justice, that is the backdrop. the other thing to bear in mind as pakistan and iran had until a few days ago pretty cordial relationships. but at this point that has deteriorated fairly dramatically. so we have had reports as well from iran state media saying nine people are believed to have been killed in this particular strike that was carried out by pakistan. what is really interesting in the language pakistan is using as it is talking very strongly about targeting militant groups, not talking about targeting iran itself. it's very similar language in fact almost mirroring the sort of thing
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that was said by the iranian foreign ministry yesterday in davos when he was talking and saying iran had carried out these attacks inside pakistan. will this be a line drawn underneath it with both sides feeling they have done the same thing will see iran decide to retaliate, will be see a further escalation between the countries? bearin escalation between the countries? bear in mind the backdrop to this is in the course of the last few days, iran has had targets inside syria, iraq, and then inside pakistan. it seems to be trying to show a display of strength showing that anything it considers to be a threat is a target so how will it feel having been hit or at least having had a hit happen inside its soil, even if that is not targeted at iran and its military operations? that'll be the key question. pakistan in a statement said it refer to iran as a brotherly nation, well that brotherly relationship is really some strain.
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around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. the consumer group which says its research suggests people can pay significantly more for train tickets at station vending machines in england compared with those bought online. it checked the prices of 75 different journeys. train companies said they would continue to work with the government and the rail industry to achieve further changes to fares that would benefit customers. an amber warning for heavy snow is in place in scotland after overnight temperatures fell well below freezing across the uk. the met office have warned snow showers will affect the northern isles and northwest scotland and could disrupt travel, power, and communications. yellow warnings for ice and snow are also in place in all four uk nations. and a report on the constitutional future of wales says independence would be a viable option but would bring significant financial challenges. an independent commission, co—chaired by the former archbishop of canterbury, rowan williams, has concluded that urgent change is needed to protect
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welsh devolution from collapse. you're live with bbc news. let's ta ke let's take a quick look at downing street to see whether the prime minister is ready to come out, that was scheduled at 10:15am but of course that could slip a little bit, he succeeded last night in getting the conservative party rwanda deportation bill through the house of commons last night. we will bring you the press conference when it begins. nurses, teachers and civil servants are among tens of thousands more public sector workers expected to go on strike in northern ireland this morning, in what trade unions are calling the biggest walkout for a generation. the co—ordinated action between 16 trade unions will see workers walk out in ongoing disputes over pay.
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the conservative party has come together and the rwanda bill has passed. it is time for the lords to do the same. the legislation deems rwanda a safe country has been passed unamended in our elected chamber. there is now only one question, will the opposition in the appointed house of lords try and frustrate the will of the people as expressed by the elected house or will they get on board and do the right thing? it's as simple as that. we have a plan in the plan is working. last year was the first year the number of small boat arrivals went down. notjust on by a bit, down by a third compared to crossings in the year before. that is in the context of arrivals up 80% on the year before but to really solve this problem we need a clear and effective deterrent. so that people know that if they come here illegally they will be detained and
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swiftly removed. that is what this rwanda bill delivers. well all their efforts to block this bill, the labour party has shown they do not get it. the priority is not stopping the boats but stopping the planes removing people who have no right to be here. they may talk the talk but they have no plan. if they were in charge, there would be no treaty, noble, 12 months of progress would be squandered. it would take us back to square one. and i can tell you this for certain. small boat arrivals would go back up. it would mean giving a green light to criminal gangs of people smugglers that they can keep their deplorable, illegal trade going. it would mean spending millions more everyday housing illegal migrants in hotels and in our communities and it would mean more people are likely to lose their lives by tragically drowning in the channel. that is the consequence of having no plan. that is why we have to stick to our plan
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and that is why the house of lords must pass this bill. it is time to take back control of our borders and defeat the people smugglers. it is time to restore people's trust that the system is fair. we are making progress to stop the boats. but now it is past time to start the flights. thank you. shall we to some questions from the media, starting with the bbc?— questions from the media, starting with the bbc? ., ~ , ., , with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news- _ with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news. the _ with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news. the story _ with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news. the story of - with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news. the story of the - with the bbc? thank you, chris mason from bbc news. the story of the last i from bbc news. the story of the last year is _ from bbc news. the story of the last year is one _ from bbc news. the story of the last year is one of you trying everything to improve — year is one of you trying everything to improve your political fortunes, being _ to improve your political fortunes, being the — to improve your political fortunes, being the agent of change, the face of continuity in the polls suggest nothing — of continuity in the polls suggest nothing has worked. given that your party— nothing has worked. given that your party is _ nothing has worked. given that your party is continuing to take lumps out of— party is continuing to take lumps out of each other and indeed lumps out of each other and indeed lumps out of— out of each other and indeed lumps out of you. — out of each other and indeed lumps out of you, is a time for you to say to them _ out of you, is a time for you to say to them explicitly to put a sock in it? ., , ., ., , .,, it? the conservative party last niiht it? the conservative party last night demonstrated _ it? the conservative party last night demonstrated that - it? the conservative party last night demonstrated that theyl it? the conservative party last i night demonstrated that they are completely united in wanting to stop the boats on this bill passed with
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an overwhelming majority in parliament but more broadly the last year was difficult, difficult for the country and we are recovering from the impact of the pandemic, the legacy of backlogs in public services and the impact of the war in ukraine on people's bills but at the start of this year we are pointing in the right direction, we have made progress. that is why we have made progress. that is why we have to stick to the plan because thatis have to stick to the plan because that is how we deliver long—term change that the country needs and we will build a brighter future for our children and renewed pride in our country and the plan is working. you can look at what has happened on inflation for example. we set out a clear panel, we have delivered on that and because inflation has been halved from 11%, down to 4% we are able to cut taxes so the other week able to cut taxes so the other week a significant tax cut for the mac tens of millions of people and more, £35,000, cut by around £1100, we can deliver positive change for the country but the alternative is we
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just go back to square one. that is all the labour party offers. keir starmer has not said what he would do differently, he has had for years to set out a plan and has not and that will not be better and that is why our plan is the right one and we will keep on it and deliver for the country. next, turning to itv. robert preston. when you announced a year ago _ robert preston. when you announced a year ago your pledge to stop the boats. _ year ago your pledge to stop the boats, the british people did not think— boats, the british people did not think that — boats, the british people did not think that meant reduce them, they thought— think that meant reduce them, they thought that meant reduced them to negligible levels by the general election. that is not now going to happen — election. that is not now going to happen is— election. that is not now going to happen. is it? and then overnight we've _ happen. is it? and then overnight we've seen— happen. is it? and then overnight we've seen more strikes on marg bar sarmachar_ we've seen more strikes on marg bar sarmachar missile sites in america so how— sarmachar missile sites in america so how worried are you the conflict in the _ so how worried are you the conflict in the middle east is widening and deepening? in the middle east is widening and dee-ienin ? .,, in the middle east is widening and dee iienin ? .,, ., ~ in the middle east is widening and dee-ienin ? .,, ., ~ i. deepening? robert, thank you. the british people _ deepening? robert, thank you. the british people will _ deepening? robert, thank you. the british people willjudge _ deepening? robert, thank you. the british people willjudge the - british people willjudge the progress we are making but i am actually proud of the progress we have made tackling this issue. i'll be sad when i made that first
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speech, i think you were there, this is a difficult problem, it is not going to be solved overnight and there is not one single silver bullet that will fix it but i want to take on the biggest challenges facing the country even if they are difficult and will take time to fix because that is what leadership is about. i am because that is what leadership is about. iam not because that is what leadership is about. i am not taking the easy way out and look at our track record. the first time the number of small boat arrivals into this country went down, went down by over one third last year, that did not happen by accident, it happened because we put in a lot of work and made decisions. we have increased the number of illegal enforcement rates by 70%, starting to close the bank accounts of 7000 people who should not be here, return people back to their own countries last year. we created new deals with france, turkey, to smash the gangs upstream. and all of that has meant that we can reduce the numbers and that we can show we are making progress on this issue but i am also clear the only
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long—term solution to this problem is to have a deterrent. and that is why the rwanda scheme is so important. we know the deterrent works because we have worked on the new deal with albania which means if you come here illegally from there you come here illegally from there you will be returned and we returned over 5000 people last year and the numbers coming from albania dropped ijy numbers coming from albania dropped by 90% of that is what rwanda will allow us to do more broadly and it is so important we pass this bill so i believe we have made real progress on this bill but i want to stick to the plan, which is working as i demonstrated. if we stick to the plan we will be able to deliver the change people one which is proper border security, an end to the unfairness of illegal migration, and end to spending millions of pounds on hotels. the alternative is we go back to square one and that was clear yesterday, the labour party have offered no alternative. no plan to tackle this problem and actually worse than that, when keir starmer has been asked about this, he has
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been asked about the scheme specifically and it has been put to him even if it is working and reducing numbers would he scrap it and he said yes! that is the choice. our plan is working, stick with it, we can deliver change or go back to square one. your other question briefly on the houthi rebels, i want to try and take as many questions as possible. the situation is concerning, the attacks on shipping is illegal and causing disruption to global economy and putting lives at risk and it is rightly took action to protect lives and interests and together with our allies we have been clear in condemnation of their behaviour and we continue to urge them to desist on carrying out illegal attacks and putting innocent lives at risk. next, sky news. thank ou, beth lives at risk. next, sky news. thank you. beth rigby. — lives at risk. next, sky news. thank you, beth rigby, prime _ lives at risk. next, sky news. thank you, beth rigby, prime minister. i lives at risk. next, sky news. thank you, beth rigby, prime minister. you say the _ you, beth rigby, prime minister. you say the party is united, you have won the — say the party is united, you have won the vote but several letters of
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no confidence in you have been submitted _ no confidence in you have been submitted on the back of the events of last— submitted on the back of the events of last night. what is your message to those _ of last night. what is your message to those colleagues who look at this bill and _ to those colleagues who look at this bill and think that you, with now liz truss— bill and think that you, with now liz truss level poll ratings or the wrong _ liz truss level poll ratings or the wrong man — liz truss level poll ratings or the wrong man for the job? liz truss level poll ratings or the wrong man forthejob? | liz truss level poll ratings or the wrong man for the job? i am wrong man for the “ob? i am interested h wrong man for the “ob? i am interested in i wrong man for the job? i am interested in sticking - wrong man for the job? i am interested in sticking with i wrong man for the job? t —uu interested in sticking with the wrong man forthejob? j,” interested in sticking with the plan i set out to the british people because the plan is working. or what? it is delivering real change and if we stick with it, we will be able to build a brighterfuture and if we stick with it, we will be able to build a brighter future for all the families in this country and all the families in this country and a renewed sense of pride in our nation and the progress that we have made is demonstrable. as i said, last year was a tricky year. recovering from the legacy of covid, public service backlogs, the impact of the war in ukraine on energy prices but we are pointing now in the right direction and progress is being made. we have had five months of wages rising faster than prices, people started to see the benefits and mortgage rates with those coming
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down, falling inflation from over 11% down to ll% because of the progress we were able to deliver a significant tax cut for tens of millions of people in work. obviously, progress on the boats is there but we need to go further and my main message is the plan is working. you can see the progress being made and ourjob is to stick to the plan, deliverfor the being made and ourjob is to stick to the plan, deliver for the country and the alternative as i said is clear. keir starmer has had for years to set out on alternative and has not done so. all right? this is someone sniping from the sidelines, cannot tell you what he is going to do, crucially tell you how he is going to pay for a £28 billion green spending three which means taxes will go up at a time we are starting to cut them so there is a very clear choice, the conservative party is completely united in wanting to deliver from the country, cut taxes and crucially stop the boats. next, let's go to channel four?—
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and crucially stop the boats. next, let's go to channel four? thank you, prime minister. _ let's go to channel four? thank you, prime minister. the _ let's go to channel four? thank you, prime minister. the habit _ let's go to channel four? thank you, prime minister. the habit of - let's go to channel four? thank you, prime minister. the habit of the i prime minister. the habit of the lords _ prime minister. the habit of the lords is — prime minister. the habit of the lords is actually not to stop legislation, particularly with the government and the majority so assuming — government and the majority so assuming you get your bill put into law by— assuming you get your bill put into law by the — assuming you get your bill put into law by the spring can even hundred percent _ law by the spring can even hundred percent guarantee a plane will take off to _ percent guarantee a plane will take off to rwanda before the general election? ., off to rwanda before the general election? ~ ., , off to rwanda before the general election? ~ ., ., , election? mark, look at my actions. we had the — election? mark, look at my actions. we had the supreme _ election? mark, look at my actions. we had the supreme court - election? mark, look at my actions. we had the supreme court ruling i election? mark, look at my actions. | we had the supreme court ruling the middle of november. and within a matter of weeks, after that happened, we negotiated and signed a treaty with rwanda and brought fresh legislation to parliament that had its first vote as well. and were supported. right? that gives you a sense of the urgency with which we are attacking this problem, i have been crystal clear we want to do this as quickly as possible and you can see the urgency with which james and michael on the team are operating. and it is up to the house
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of lords. i think the country has been very clear this is a priority, we have been very clear this is a priority and parliament, the elected parliament has also with a very strong majority last night supported this legislation. i think it's incumbent on the house of lords to recognise that and pass this legislation unamended as quickly as possible so we can getting flights up possible so we can getting flights up and running. what i would say is we are not waiting for that moment, we are not waiting for that moment, we are not waiting for that moment, we are working hard already to do the planning that would be required to get the flights of in preparation for that, there's a lot that will go into that, we have been working on that and are intensifying the work on it because we are determined to start getting flights of so we can implement the deterrent so my message to the lords would be look at the majority last night, this is at the majority last night, this is a priority for the country and we are confident this legislation is robust and compliant with our obligations and will do the job and now we need to get on with it. next
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is the times?— now we need to get on with it. next is the times? your legal advice, and i could is the times? your legal advice, and i could not — is the times? your legal advice, and i could not to _ is the times? your legal advice, and i could not to comply _ is the times? your legal advice, and i could not to comply with _ is the times? your legal advice, and i could not to comply with rule i is the times? your legal advice, and i could not to comply with rule 39 i i could not to comply with rule 39 would _ i could not to comply with rule 39 would be — i could not to comply with rule 39 would be a — i could not to comply with rule 39 would be a breach of international law and _ would be a breach of international law and this could be crucial in terms — law and this could be crucial in terms of— law and this could be crucial in terms of when flights take up this year so _ terms of when flights take up this year so will you seek new legal advice — year so will you seek new legal advice or— year so will you seek new legal advice or are you prepared to breach international law in order to get the flights off? i�*ve international law in order to get the flights off?— the flights off? i've been repeatedly _ the flights off? i've been repeatedly crystal - the flights off? i've been repeatedly crystal clear i the flights off? i've been i repeatedly crystal clear that i the flights off? i've been - repeatedly crystal clear that i will not let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off and getting this deterrent up and running. the bill specifically contains a power that makes it clear that ministers are the ones who make these decisions. parliament has supported that, there is also the bill making expressly clear that the domestic courts should respect that decision and very simply, we would not have that close, i would not have put that in the bill if i was not prepared to use it so if you are asking me are the circumstances in which i ignore rule 39 the answer is yes because it
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is important we fix the problem and we believe we have done everything right. of course there will always be individual circumstances when people rightly expect us to examine the facts but are there circumstances in which i am prepared to move ahead in the face of an overall of 39? yes. we have made progress on the issue, the plan is working, we must stick to the plan so we can finish the job and that is what we will do. next, let's go to the newspaper?— what we will do. next, let's go to the newspaper? one of your other riorities the newspaper? one of your other priorities as _ the newspaper? one of your other priorities as cutting _ the newspaper? one of your other priorities as cutting taxes, - the newspaper? one of your other priorities as cutting taxes, are i the newspaper? one of your other priorities as cutting taxes, are you confident— priorities as cutting taxes, are you confident you can continue to cut taxes _ confident you can continue to cut taxes in — confident you can continue to cut taxes in the budget and beyond given the very— taxes in the budget and beyond given the very tight fiscal situation, and a very— the very tight fiscal situation, and a very large stock of debt and looming — a very large stock of debt and looming cuts to public services? without — looming cuts to public services? without speculating on future budgets which is a former chancellor, preferthe budgets which is a former chancellor, prefer the prime ministers do not do, our priority is
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to cut taxes when it is responsible to cut taxes when it is responsible to do so and again this is a good illustration of where the plan is delivering for the country. because of the decisions we have made, inflation last year more than halved from 11% when i took office down to 4%, from 11% when i took office down to ll%, and that did not happen by accident, it happened because this government was prepared to take the right long—term decisions for this country, even though they are not easy. right? in contrast, opposition leadership has keir starmer come up we are prepared to do the right things for the country, even if it is not the easy way out, that is how you deliver real change and because of that, we control borrowing and welfare and control inflation, we were able to cut taxes and to put in context, someone on an average salary of £35,000, a tax cut worth £450 that kicked in a couple of weeks ago so it's meaningful and as i said, we want to keep cutting people's taxes because we believe
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that people should be able to keep more of their own money and i want to make sure this is a country hard work is rewarded. i believe in those things, this is notjust about the extra pennies and pounds in your bank account at the end of the month, this is about values and my values are that this is a country hard work should be rewarded and thatis hard work should be rewarded and that is the kind of country i want to build on that is why we want to cut people's taxes and again, the choice is clear. stick with us, the plan is working, your tax is already cut and we will keep doing that, the alternative is the labour party and

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