live from washington. this is bbc news. after donald trump's landslide win in iowa, all eyes turn to new hampshire for round two in the republican presidential primaries. as nikki haley and ron desantis bicker over which of them has the best chance of beating donald trump to the nomination, we will hear from asa hutchinson, who tried and failed to take on the former president. and as primary season heats up, we'll take a look at how the issue of abortion rights could take centre stage this november. hello, i'm carl nasman. welcome to this special program on the us presidential primaries. after a freezing cold start to the 2024 election season in iowa this week, the race for the republican nomination will heat up on tuesday when new hampshire voters take to the polls in the first

primary of the 2024 election cycle. tuesday's republican primary will test former president donald trump's front—runner status after his landslide victory in iowa, and former governor of south carolina nikki haley is looking to establish herself as the main rival to mr trump with a strong showing in the granite state. after finishing a close third behind ron desantis iowa, nikki haley has been making her pitch to voters. things are tough right now. you do not have to turn on the news to know how tough it is. you feel it in the grocery store, you feel it at the gas station, you feel it in your mortgage payment, your insurance payment — everything that we have to pay has gone up. it is amazing to me how joe biden can say to you, we've got a great economy. and we are supposed to believe it. it is amazing how donald trump does the same thing and tells you things, and just thinks you are going

to believe it. donald trump has also been on the campaign trail in new hampshire, touting his big win, and making it clear who he thinks his main rival is in the state. we just left iowa and now we are going to soon be leaving new hampshire with a big... i think a big victory, right. we have to win in november but we have to win coming up. think of it, next tuesday we have to win and we have to win in a resounding fashion. i said to iowa — they got so sick and tired of me — i started off by saying, listen, we are going to win but you gotta win by big numbers. if we're going to win by a close race, it does not set the example. i vote for nikki haley this tuesday is a vote forjoe biden and a democratic congress this november because that is what is going to happen. well, donald trump received a key endorsement tonight, joined on stage by republican senator tim scott from nikki haley's home state of south carolina. senator scott was running for president as well, but he suspended his campaign after failing to gain enough public support in the polls.

he's now being seen as a potential running mate for the former president. here he is a short time ago. we need a president who will close our southern border today! we needed donald trump! we need a president, we need a president who will unite our country. we need donald trump! some big energy from tim scott. the endorsement is seen as a blow to nikki haley in her home state, but in response to reports of tim scott's endorsement of donald trump. nikki haley said simply "the fellas are gonna do what the fellas are gonna do." well, afterfinishing second in iowa, florida governor ron desantis is looking past new hampshire, instead focusing most of his efforts on nikki haley's home state of south carolina.

but before he heads south, he wanted to stress to voters that he is still in the race. we had a little tussle in iowa, and people were saying, you know, unless you finished in the top two, nobody has a chance to go on beyond that, and people like nikki haley's team were saying, they are definitely going to be second, all this other stuff, you've got to be second to go on. and ifinished second, she got to be second to go on. and i finished second, she didn't. that is just the reality. applause. there will be two fewer candidates in new hampshire than there were for this week's caucuses. vivek ramaswamy ended his campaign as the iowa counties were still counting the votes. he very quickly threw his support behind donald trump. and asa hutchinson has also suspending his campaign after receiving just 191 votes, that's 0.2% of the total cast. but unlike mr ramaswamy, he has yet to endorse a candidate. earlier i spoke with the former arkansas governor about his campaign and what he is watching for as we head

to new hampshire. governor, you have now officially suspended your campaign for president. why do you think your message did not resonate with republicans? well, it was a tough message that we need to go a different direction than donald trump and obviously in iowa he has a lot of support, and they didn't like my message that much. now, i will say that in the end, they wanted to have one alternative to donald trump but i think it'll shifted toward nikki haley, so she got some momentum out of there, but it reduced significantly my vote totals. and so i did not have any choice but to drop out of it and i am chewing on the candidates as they compete in new hampshire and watching from the sidelines. i want to talk about

new hampshire in just a second but first i want to circle back to the announcement you made after you suspended your campaign. you said in part, that you have sounded the warning to the gop about the risks in 202a. what are those risks that you are referring to? are you talking about donald trump right there? i am specifically talking about donald trump. he is our lead candidate for the nomination and he has already been found by a jury to be guilty of sexual abuse, he has been found in a civil case to have committed financial fraud. these are not good starting for a candidate for the republican nomination. and then he faces four criminal charges. and so we do not know what this next year is proceed like, but there's all kinds of warning signs that he is a candidate that's fraught with challenges. but people have adjusted to that, they believe in his message of grievance, and that is a powerful

short—term message, but it is not a long—term message of hope that our country needs so that's the warning i sound. president biden, from a political standpoint, has taken us the wrong direction. he is not as conservative as i would like. we need to win this race but we have a candidate for president that has got a lot of issues to deal with this coming year. donald trump, with that support you mention, he has a double—digit lead currently in new hampshire. from your personal experience though in this race, what does nikki haley or ron desantis need to do to try to close that gap on the former president? well, they have tried everything. i mean, at first they were soft on him and it didn't really go after donald trump and now they are being more aggressive and to me, that is what you have to do if you're going to showcase the differences for a different

nominee but you have got to... you have a lot of momentum right now behind donald trump after he came out of iowa successfully. all of the donors and political pundits wanted to have a get up race between the lead alternative and donald trump. they have that in new hampshire. nikki haley is there, it is just a one—on—one contest. ron desantis has moved south, so here is the test. if we do not do well in terms of nikki haley doing well against donald trump, than it looks like it is going to be an early finish to this nomination contest. i want to ask about a hypothetical here, it doesn't look likely that donald trump will be the eventual republican nominee unless something changes. if you were to be convicted in one of the four criminal cases he is currently facing, in your mind, which of the

republican party do? first of all, they should not support a convicted felon for president of the united states. i am one of the few candidates who has said i will not support that candidate if he is convicted of a serious felony and if these are serious felonies. the republican party needs to be aware that donald trump's strategy is to wrap this nomination up quickly before the storm clouds gather, before the convention, and then, if he is convicted, the republican party has an even tougher decision to make, do you stick with him or abandon him and go with somebody else? none of this is a pretty scenario but right now it is set for a strategy that will lose in the fall. i hope we can get it together and change the course but it is going to take some momentum coming out of new hampshire and it is going to take the electorate to rethink their support for donald trump.

we have seen in recent days a flurry of endorsements for donald trump, marco rubio being one, several members of congress now coming out and saying they would support mr trump for president. how much does that surprise you, that coalescing of support from the establishment around donald trump? well, it surprises me that it comes these early and it is disappointing. it reflects the hold that donald trump has notjust on the party operators but on the leadership and his threatening tone in the primary are going to have a contest in the re— election, that fear factor has influenced many to jump on the bandwagon and support him, so that adds to his momentum and it adds to the challenge that nikki haley faces in new hampshire to overcome that but new hampshire is very independent, new hampshire thinks through it all i am hopeful that they will go a different direction next tuesday. governor, you are officially

out of the race back home in arkansas. i'm going to ask you, is there a candidate you would endorse now in this race? i could see myself down the road endorsing an alternative to donald trump so i'm watching it. i have not made a decision yet and we will see how it goes. i have helped build the republican party in arkansas, i have always expected to support the republican nominee but this is a precarious time for the party and i think we can come out of this but we have got to move quickly away from donald trump's hold on the party to a more independent voice, a more conservative voice and a principled voice and we will see if we can do that but that is what i will be focused on. governor, last question, you travelled the state of iowa, you braved those freezing temperatures like everybody

else, what is your takeaway, having spoken with the voters across the state? first of all, gives you type in democracy, theyjust washington and our federal government to work better but they believe in our country and they really paid attention. they obviously came to a different conclusion than i did but we have to respect that and say this has been the honour of my life to run for president, to engage in the debate and i think it reflects the strength of our country and our people and i know, i was really impressed with so much of the foreign media that was there and how they are pulling for the state to get this right and i think that reflects

the partnership we need for the future and the hope that we have for respected countries. former governor of arkansas, former presidential candidate, asa hutchinson, thank you forjoining us. good to be with you. thank you. while donald trump has come out of iowa with a commanding lead, he still has serious challengers for the nomination. on the democratic side, presidentjoe biden is already looking ahead to november and the key issues he hopes to galvanise voters around. one of them is the contentious issue of abortion in the wake of the supreme court's landmark overturning of roe v wade last summer. abortion rights advocates have been on a winning streak at the polls, with voters in seven states choosing to improve and protect abortion access sincejune 2022. meanwhile here in washington, anti—abortion activists gathered on the snowy national mall on friday for the annual �*march for life.�* our reporter holly honderick attended the march. afterwards she caught up with my colleague, helena humphrey.

it has been a tough year for the pro—life movement, the anti—abortion movement. they had a landmark victory, overturning roe v. wade, and the ultimate goal is a national abortion ban and that has not happened. things have not gone to plan if you are one of those activists. they see political resistance. a gallup poll last month showed 69% support some access to abortion. that is huge. they have the election coming up this year and it will be tough climb for them going forward. let's talk about it has an election issue. yesterday we saw a joint campaign launched by president biden and vice president kamala harris. when it comes to abortion rights, how big do you think this will be as an election issue? most people predicted a horrible outcome for the democrats in 2022 but they over performed and republicans underperformed, and people on either side of the aisle agree that was because of abortion. we are expecting a similar outcome in 2024 but

republican pundits and pro—choice people say to me, it is going to get democrats engaged talking about abortion. republicans are scared to talk about because they are losing voters because of that. now, let's return to this upcoming tuesday's republican primary in new hampshire and focus in on the polling. as was the case in iowa, donald trump is comfortably ahead, polling at 52% in the latest survey from suffolk university for the boston globe newspaper. but look at the other two candidates. nikki haley is clearly in second with 35%, with ron desantis down at 6%, which could explain why the florida governor is shifting his attention to south carolina and writing up new hampshire as a loss. to recap iowa and dig deeper on what to expect from new hampshire, i spoke with three political reporters — nick corasaniti from the new york times, david weigel from semafor, and colby itkowitz from the washington post. david and nick, thank you for being here, we have got a lot to talk about,

the republican nominating season is finally under way. david, i want to start with iowa. a dominating win for the former president donald trump, ron desantis coming in second, nikki haley a close third. what was your biggest take away from those iowa caucus results? my biggest takeaway was not the margin, it was who turned out, and the answer is not that many republicans. turnout, given the whole cold, maybe not surprising, was a little bit lower than 2012 for republicans, way lower than 2016, there were tens of thousands who voted in those prior caucuses did not show up this time. they showed up in the largest numbers in polk county, des moines, johnson county, iowa city, you saw a lot of suburbanites who voted for mitt romney in the past, george w bush in the past, people who have left the republican party since donald trump became the figurehead and the leader of the party — they did not turn out for the caucuses. that tells us a lot about the different states, a lot about new hampshire — that is the kind of voter

nikki haley needs to come out for her on tuesday. the trump base is much more loyal and active than the moderate republicans who might come out and be convinced to stop him. nick, what did you make of the turnout? i think in the end it was about 100,000 people, usually it is closer to about 160 and 180. presidentjoe biden one of those coming out and saying this was not as big and strong of a win for donald trump as it might have appeared at first. is there anything to that argument? i think dave's point is the most salient, it was just really, really cold. and you are going to get the most diehard supporters who are willing to brave —20, —30 feels like temperatures, and president trump has the most fervent support. his base is by far the most excited, most dedicated, they have been with him for years now and have proven that time and again. so especially in a republican primary i think the candidate with the strongest loyalists is going to see the biggest turnout. i also think polls show that iowa was not going to be competitive.

it was a foregone conclusion that president trump was going to win, it was kind of a question about how much. and there was this spirited fight for second place but it was still going to be a pretty lower second place than say within the single digits or anything. so that also can sometimes make voters feel like, "well, i don't need to go out, it is already decided, "trump will win by a lot." i think that could have had another kind of depressing effect on the overall turnout. david, i know you are in new hampshire, it is not as cold there as it is in iowa. what is the mood like on the ground, what are voters telling you, what kind of turnout are we expecting for the first primary in the republican race? the new hampshire secretary of state has predicted turnout similar to 2016, and remember that was a year when democrats had a competitive primary — not as competitive and ended up being a rout for bernie sanders, but a lot of independent voters could choose whether to vote democrat or republican, a good number chose the democratic primary.

they are freed up now to vote in the republican one. that is the projection — in terms of voter enthusiasm and interest i am seeing people turning out for candidates, but having covered these since 2008, less enthusiasm than i remember in some years when it looked like there was a real hunt, when trump was less popular with republicans — you never step in the same river twice, trump is much more popular with republican voters and with independents than he was in 2016 when he was dramatically unpopular, when conservative republicans didn't trust him. you see a lot of conservative enthusiasm, you see a lot of voters deciding between desantis and trump. a lot of respect for desantis among conservatives, and i see at nikki haley's events, talked to a lot of independence who maybe voted for amy klobuchar in the last primary, or they voted for pete buttigieg, and they're just voting for nikki haley to slow trump down. i am not finding that much passionate nikki haley support even though the governor of new hampshire, chris sununu has been with her everywhere, trying to gin that up. doing a pretty good job of it, as a surrogate for nikki haley campaigning around the state, he has made the best argument for her. "if you are conservative, moderate, a democrat,

"you should want in the race, not trump," that is the pitch. colby, i want to bring you in now, colby of course with the washington post. what about nikki haley, is this just a phenomenon based onm those independent voters in new hampshire, we have seen her moving up in the polls, from polling in the single digits to nearly overtaking ron desantis in iowa. what kind of chance does she have in the granite state of potentially challenging donald trump, even finishing first? the chances are probably still pretty slim _ for nikki haley to come i in first in new hampshire. they are setting i expectations that way as well. you will hear the governor . chris sununu saying "coming in a strong second is a win, i that is what our expectations are," but it is unclear what the path for herj is beyond new hampshire . if that is where she ends up. i have been- at nikki haley events all this past week in - new hampshire, and there were a lot of independents

there, a lot of— people looking for. an alternative to both trump and biden. i talked to people who were both democrat leaning - and republican leaning but who want someone new and young and fresh. the issue for nikki haley is, are there enough of those l voters to come outl next tuesday to put her over the edge. there is a high- watermark of 2012, republican primary independents showing up and voting, _ and if she doesn't - hit something around the 40—45% of independents i coming out and supporting her it is almost nearly impossible for her to surpass donald - trump. nick, i want to turn to you now and just keeping with nikki haley, would a second—place finish be enough for her to move onto her home state of south carolina and really be a legitimate challenger to the former president? it is certainly hard to see building momentum from a second—place finish in new hampshire after a third—place finish in iowa. it reminds me a bit of senator marco rubio who kept trying to claim momentum when he was finishing well behind trump and ted

cruz in 2016 and never really amounted to anything. and she is polling behind president trump in south carolina in the double digits, and senator tim scott of south carolina, who nikki haley appointed, just endorsed donald trump. so it is hard to see how she could build any momentum off a second—place finish here in new hampshire. i was with her today and she talked to reporters for the first time in a long time, and was trying to say that she was never trying to set expectations here, she was trying to win over voters and build the momentum and show it is time for generational change, and trying to avoid any kind of expectation game that could slow a march into south carolina. but absent a victory here it is tough to see how they could be any change in polling when there hasn't been in 11 or so months or so that she has been running. david, what about ron desantis? he is of course still running — looking back to iowa he lost all 99 counties, he is polling in single digits in new hampshire. is there a positive case to be made now

for the desantis campaign? it's tough in new hampshire, and he opened his rally in nashua where i am tonight by talking about the big crowd he got in south carolina. what he is talking about here and national interviews in south carolina, is how he can tell the truth about nikki haley in the state, he can talk about her record being subpar compared to his, how she clashed with true conservatives. he has already, in terms of setting expectations, they are very low in new hampshire and he is out to convince conservative voters not to go for her, which rebounds to trump's benefit. one thing you will see in the polling, with people who do tracking polls in the week before the primary, among registered republicans who, as colby was saying, make up, even in a surge year for independents, make up half the electorate — trump's dominance among voters is 40—50 points. she needs to completely overperform with independents while getting some conservative votes.

desantis is cutting into that and trying to prevent her from getting anything more than a sliver of them which, in this state, is much easierfor trump to win. colby, given the polling numbers, given the string of endorsements we have seen from tim scott as well now, endorsing donald trump, is it basically over? we don't want to say that of course, but is this the party donald trump going forward? are we looking ahead now, and the party seems to think so as well, to a rematch of trump and biden. it is hard to see it any other way. i you mentioned he is getting i all these prime endorsements from gop elected officials who basically see the race as over. | you can just tell when you are - on the ground in new hampshire, it's a different level— of enthusiasm for donald trump. i think there is some - polling out that found 90% of the people that are voting. for trump are voting for trump, as opposed to with nikki haley, it is about half. are voting for her but - the other half who are voting for her are doing it because it is - an anti—trump vote.

so she doesn't have that same level of l support and enthusiasm behind her that donald trump does. i i was there on tuesday when it was snowing. and sleeting all day - and there were hundreds of people waiting outside i in the freezing cold to see donald trump. that's how passionate his - supporters are, and that really drives him forward - in new hampshire and will continue to drive him through the rest - of the primary states. i think there is - a very good chance that this thing could i wrap up pretty soon. it is going to be an interesting evening in new hampshire coming up. colby itkowitz, wahington post political reporter, david weigel, semafor politics reporter and nick corasaniti, with the new york times, a national politics reporter there, thank you to all three of you. that's all for now. a reminder — we will

be live on tuesday evening with expert analysis of all the twists and turns and as the results come in, we'll bring you a special live broadcast from new hampshire. i hope you willjoin us for that. hello. i think we've seen the last of the widespread cold, frosty days. on friday, there was plenty of blue sky and wintry sunshine for many of us, as was the picture in dudley. but things are changing now. we've got milder air moving in in time for the weekend and also much windier weather. in fact, the met office have named storm isha. that's on the way, particularly late sunday into monday bringing severe gales and disruption to travel, power perhaps is likely. but let's have a look at saturday. first off, this band of rain will affect central portions of the uk, perhaps southern scotland, northern england into wales as well. there'll be some sunshine across much of the midlands, south—east england and east anglia and some brighter skies across the north—east of scotland too.

temperatures around 6 or 7 in the east, but we're back into double figures towards the west — ten degrees for the likes of belfast and glasgow, for instance. later on saturday, heavier rain moves in from the west. the winds are going to pick up as well. that system sweeps its way eastwards into the early hours of sunday, followed by more showers. it isn't going to be cold and frosty as we start sunday morning. we've got too much wind and the showers around from the word go. but let's take a look at sunday in a bit more detail because here is storm isha developing in the atlantic, sweeping its way in. just look at all these isobars across the uk between the warm front and the cold front. that's where we're going to see really strong gusts, perhaps 70 or 80 miles an hour. so for sunday, some rain initially for northern ireland sweeping into other western parts of britain. there could be a little bit of snow just across the very highest ground for scotland. still chilly air in the far north of scotland, but much milder, 12 or 13. but the real emphasis on sunday, particularly later, is going to be the strength of the wind. we've got amber warnings for storm isha across northern ireland, southern scotland, northern england, western parts of england and wales and the south—east as well. gusts 70, 80 miles an hour, enough to cause some significant disruption. big waves, i think,

around the coast with this storm system as well. now heading on into monday, we've still got the brisk winds at first. they should ease a little bit through the day, but it is going to be another really windy day with heavy showers rattling in across the north and the west. should be mostly dry, i think later on in the south, and the east, and temperatures somewhere between about six to 12 degrees for this stage — not quite as mild as sunday. but things are looking unsettled through the week ahead, often pretty windy, showery rain around at times — those temperatures much milder than they have been. bye— bye.

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