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is clinicians, professor jason leitch, is clinicians, professorjason leitch, speaking at the l where is speaking at the covid inquiry, where the topic of deleting messages is being discussed. a former post office investigator is facing questions about the horizon computer scandal, at the long—running inquiry. and survivors of the 2017 grenfell tower fire share the impact of the disaster on their lives as part of grenfell testimony week. one of scotland's most senior clinicians, professorjason leitch, is appearing before the uk covid inquiry, where the issue of saving informal messages is being discussed. last week, a message he wrote was shown to the inquiry, in which he said deleting whatsapp messages was a bed—time ritual during the pandemic. this comes after the testimony of professor sir gregor smith, scotland's chief medical officer on monday, who admitted asking his colleagues to delete whatsapp messages at the end of every day during the pandemic.
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he said any pertinent information was recorded via email. solicitor aamer anwar of scottish covid bereaved, an advocacy group of people who lost loved ones during the pandemic, spoke just before today's session began, and criticised the deleting of whatsapp messages. nicola sturgeon should be treated no differently to boris johnson, nicola sturgeon should be treated no differently to borisjohnson, who failed to provide what's ats from the start of the pandemic, while the prime minister rishi sunak claims to have had non—. it is an important principle of government, transparency and accountability that official records are kept of key actions, key decisions, that applies to both the uk and the scottish covid bereaved are entitled to know why our politicians have not been forthcoming about what materials they hold, and much has been destroyed. our clients have asked for the consideration of a criminal
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complaint and for the consideration of a criminal complaintand a for the consideration of a criminal complaint and a formal complaint to the information commissioner, who has already said he has serious concerns. we will take all necessary steps once the evidence is completed. it ought to have been blindingly obvious to the politicians, to the civil servants from 2020 onwards, that their contemporaneous messages may be of relevance to a public inquiry. professor leitch has been speaking to the covid inquiry in the past hour. he has been discussing his role during the pandemic. where we were going, based on data we were seeing. we where we were going, based on data we were seeing-— we were seeing. we have heard evidence already, _ we were seeing. we have heard evidence already, including - we were seeing. we have heard evidence already, including on i we were seeing. we have heard i evidence already, including on that role _ evidence already, including on that role these — evidence already, including on that role. these messages show that, far from being _ role. these messages show that, far from being simply the rentable clinical— from being simply the rentable clinical communicator of the scottish_ clinical communicator of the scottish government, you were a key adviser_ scottish government, you were a key adviser on_ scottish government, you were a key adviser on important matters relating — adviser on important matters relating to key decisions taken at key times... we relating to key decisions taken at key times- - -_ relating to key decisions taken at ke times... . ., ., ., ., key times... we have had a flavour ofthat
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key times... we have had a flavour of that testimony _ key times... we have had a flavour of that testimony that _ key times... we have had a flavour of that testimony that is _ key times... we have had a flavouri of that testimony that is happening throughout the morning. there is more of that online. let's go to the covid inquiry in scotland now where professorjason leitch has been giving testimony. sorry, that is a repeat, ellie price is in the newsroom and has been covering the inquiry for many, many months. the issue of whatsapp messages is back on the agenda? again and again, and we could play whatsapp bingo the amount of time that phrase has come up during the covid inquiry. what is interesting with the scottish part of the uk covid inquiry, it is important to remember it is a uk wide inquiry and the bit they are on now is in edinburgh, based on what happened with the scottish government. but it is part of the uk wide inquiry. i think what is really interesting is the difference in tone. when it was in london and focusing on westminster, we heard so much about whatsapp and the really personal messages that were read out, often
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very fruity, juicy language, quite unpleasant at times, about how politicians and civil servants were referring to each other, and the decisions they were making. a stark difference with what was going on in scotland, because so many of the whatsapp messages have been deleted. we heard last week that nicola sturgeon had practically deleted all of them, thatjohn swinney, deputy first minister of scotland had his messages set to automatically delete. this week we are hearing that the medical professionals, if you like, there was advising on the medical and scientific element of all of this were doing the same. we have professorjason leitch talking this morning. he hasn't got onto that better yet, but he previously said deleting whatsapp messages was something of a pre—bed ritual. no doubt that will come up again, and the bigger question of why civil servants and politicians were deleting everything. we servants and politicians were deleting everything.- servants and politicians were deleting everything. we are looking at the live stream _ deleting everything. we are looking at the live stream we _ deleting everything. we are looking at the live stream we are _ deleting everything. we are looking at the live stream we are showing, | at the live stream we are showing, and we can see more messages that
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are being shared as part of the evidence in this inquiry. over the months we have talked, we talked about different stages of the covid inquiry, looking at different issues. bring us up—to—date and remind us where we are out when we come to those different stages? figs remind us where we are out when we come to those different stages? $5 i come to those different stages? as i sa , this is come to those different stages? " i say, this is module two, if you want to get into the technical language of the inquiry itself, being divided into different parts. we had a module one, about the uk preparedness for a pandemic, and whether it was unknown at the time what kind of pandemic that would be, that being rather the problem, that the uk prepared for a flu pandemic and covid presented in a different way. at the end of last year, we heard a lot about what was going on at westminster, as well as how westminster interacted with the devolved government. and now the inquiry is moving to edinburgh, to
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focus on exactly how the scottish goverment reacted. it will then move to cardiff and the welsh government, and, of course, belfast and the northern ireland administration there. so, getting a taste of how everything interacted with each other, it is interesting how this keeps coming up, whatsapp messaging, this part of the inquiry is focusing on the decisions made during the key part, the run up during the pandemic and the lockdown that follow, the early part of 2020 and beyond, through the various lockdowns we have. there were different rules in different parts. we have. there were different rules in different parts.— different parts. we only have 20 seconds, different parts. we only have 20 seconds. and — different parts. we only have 20 seconds, and i _ different parts. we only have 20 seconds, and i want _ different parts. we only have 20 seconds, and i want to - different parts. we only have 20 seconds, and i want to ask - different parts. we only have 20 seconds, and i want to ask one i different parts. we only have 20 i seconds, and i want to ask one last question before we let you go. what is likely to happen when this concludes? it is likely to happen when this concludes?— is likely to happen when this concludes? , ,, , ., .,., ., concludes? it is likely to go on for a coule concludes? it is likely to go on for a ample of _ concludes? it is likely to go on for a couple of years, _ concludes? it is likely to go on for a couple of years, many _ concludes? it is likely to go on for a couple of years, many critics - concludes? it is likely to go on for i a couple of years, many critics have said it will go on longer than the pandemic did itself. but the inquiry
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chair, baroness hallett, said that she will release recommendations for each of the previous modules, if you like, as she goes. i think we are going to hear a bit about what happens, what goes on in westminster, we should hear about that. we should hear about that by the end of this year. this bit in scotland should probably be taped live rock are tagged onto the end of this year. it is a long process, so much evidence to go through, the recommendations will come months later, when everything has been collated. but it ain't going to happen any time soon. fix, collated. but it ain't going to happen any time soon. a long process indeed. as happen any time soon. a long process indeed- as you _ happen any time soon. a long process indeed. as you can _ happen any time soon. a long process indeed. as you can see _ happen any time soon. a long process indeed. as you can see next _ happen any time soon. a long process indeed. as you can see next to - indeed. as you can see next to ellie, that is the live stream of the inquiry as it continues in edinburgh. you can watch the live stream, or you can go to the iplayer while we are running a live stream.
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the long—running inquiry into the post office scandal has resumed, focusing on prosecutions brought against sub—postmasters. it has been described as the biggest miscarriage ofjustice in uk history. robert daily, a former post office investigator for several postmasters, is facing questions about the horizon scandal, which led to more than 900 post office workers being wrongly prosecuted, because of faulty computer software. we can go live now to our employment correspondent zoe conway in central london. a rainy central london, what is happening this morning? the reason wh we are happening this morning? the reason why we are going — happening this morning? the reason why we are going to _ happening this morning? the reason why we are going to be _ happening this morning? the reason why we are going to be hearing - happening this morning? the reason why we are going to be hearing fromj why we are going to be hearing from robert daley this morning is because he was part of a team of investigators at the post office, who investigated cases across the uk. what the inquiry is focusing on this week is the cases of
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sub—postmasters and sub—postmistresses from northern ireland that were prosecuted. what is interesting about scotland is that the system there is different. whereas the post office was carrying out its own prosecutions of branch office managers in england, in scotland, the prosecutions were carried out by the crown office. we know that 73 prosecutions took place, and robert daly was involved in investigating some of those cases. we know, for example, that he was involved in the case of bill barr, he was convicted in 2010. he pleaded guilty to embezzling money. his widow says he pleaded guilty to avoid going to prison. he died in 2012. but the conviction was quashed just last year. his widow has given a very powerful interview to the bbc, where she has talked about how
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every time he was getting ready for court, he had to pack a bag because we never thought he would be back, because he feared going to prison. he said the fear in his eyes, i will neverforget it. a he said the fear in his eyes, i will never forget it. a very powerful testimony from his widow to the bbc. she is not here at the public hearing today. at robert daly will be asked about several of those cases. ., ., ., ., ., cases. 0k, we are going to have to leave so we. _ cases. 0k, we are going to have to leave so we, unfortunately, - cases. 0k, we are going to have to leave so we, unfortunately, havingj cases. 0k, we are going to have to i leave so we, unfortunately, having a few technical difficulties. presumably due to the rain. thanks to zoe, and as you can see on the screen next to me, the post office inquiry, you can watch that, blow by blow, on the bbc iplayer. we are also running a live stream of the uk's covid inquiry, which is currently in scotland. you can go to
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the iplayer landing page on the news section and find a live stream of that as well. in the middle is the live stream for the bbc news channel, if you want to stay watching me. survivors of the grenfell tower fire in london in 2017 say they will be a voice for the 72 people who died, as they share the impact the disaster has had on them. campaigners say they will use grenfell testimony week to call for change, as frances read reports. it was one of the uk's worst modern disasters. a fire that started in a fourth floorflat, raced up the exterior of the building, and spread to all four sides. 72 people died. those impacted have tried to be heard in all kinds of ways since that night injune 2017. six and a half years later, testimony week is supposed to give a platform for them to speak directly to some of those they hold responsible. it came about as part of a multi—million pound high court settlement agreement, but it has no impact
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on the ongoing grenfell inquiry, or on the eventual decision as to whether criminal charges will be brought. and not everyone is hopeful of it helping. in my eyes, i don't think it will make a difference. i just think it's a chance for us citizens to say how much we really feel about the total lack of human regard, really. i still suffer with survivor's guilt every single day, and every month that the names are read out, i say to myself, really, that should have been me. but for others, this has been a long time coming, reflecting on how their lives are still impacted, as well as the many failings that happened. for those given the chance to speak, they're hoping their voice will be heard and listened to. frances read, bbc news. more now on one of our top stories:
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the us and uk once again hitting houthi targets in yemen. the houthis�* attacks on red sea shipping have highlighted the impact of yemen's armed factions in the middle east and beyond. but western powers have themselves played a role in yemen's civil war. an investigation by bbc arabic has found evidence that the united arab emirates hired american mercenaries to assassinate political targets in yemen. some of those mercenaries spoke to nawal al—maghafi, and this is her report. in 2015, the uae hired a private us military firm called spear operations group. their mission was to carry out assassinations in yemen. isaac gilmore, a former navy seal, was one of several americans who took part in covert operations. i think i had a day's notice to say am i in or out? i hop on a plane to abu dhabi. we met with the appropriate bodies
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within the uae government at the officers club at the emirati army base. the pitch was to put pressure on isis and al-qaeda in the state of yemen and make sure it did not become another chaotic hub of terrorist activity especially with the proximity to the horn of africa. in 2015, the fighting in yemen was on severalfronts. a rebel group called the houthis had taken over the capital sanaa and al-qaeda were gaining territory in the south. the us feared terrorist operations beyond yemen. the uae took over security for the region. who gave you the targets? we received the target intelligence from the uae government. how did you receive them? in intelligence packets. and one of them was ansaf mayo? yes. ansaf mayo was the leader of one of the biggest political organisations in yemen. he has no known links
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to terrorism and has taken part in a un peace process. on the day isaac and his team went to kill him, he had left his office earlier than usual. it saved his life. translation: what shocked me most is that they sent foreign _ mercenaries to kill us in our own country. what more legaljustification could there have been to cross the ocean to kill me in aden? why? what am i guilty of. his party, the reform party, has policies inspired by the muslim brotherhood, a popular islamist movement banned in several countries, including the uae where it is seen as a threat to the royal family. but the us has never classified the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist organisation. by march 2016, isaac had left yemen and stopped working for spear.
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but the assassinations continued. we've seen evidence spear group continue to be paid by the uae until 2020 and sources have told me they were training others how to kill. human rights organisation reprieve has been compiling a list of assassinations in southern yemen. what you see is basically tens and tens of assassinations. between 2015 and 2018, they've counted 102. it was not until 2018 when we started to pinpoint actually this is part of a systematic targeting policy. you have this chaotic situation where everyone can name anyone a terrorist and start going after them. these are extrajudicial killings. american laws covering mercenaries are still unclear. spear operations group has not been prosecuted for their role in
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the uae's assassination programme. while targeted killings in yemen continue today. in a statement, the uae told us the allegations against them are false. the bbc has tried to speak with the founder of spear, abraham golan, he did not respond. we put a list of questions about spear group's activities in yemen to the us state department and the department of defence who declined to comment. a cia spokesman said the idea the cia signed off on such activity is false. nawal al—maghafi, bbc news. there is more on that exclusive investigation on the bbc website. thousands of homes in scotland and northern ireland have spent the day without power after damage caused by storm isha. many are bracing themselves more extreme weather and
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travel disruption as storm jocelyn now approaches. earlier i spoke to stav danaos. now approaches. earlier i spoke to stav denm— now approaches. earlier i spoke to stav danaos. , ., ., , ., stav danaos. this was another storm that was named _ stav danaos. this was another storm that was named by _ stav danaos. this was another storm that was named by the _ stav danaos. this was another storm that was named by the irish - stav danaos. this was another storm that was named by the irish meta- . that was named by the irish meta— service, because the worst of it will be across the republic of ireland. it looks like it will deepen as it follows a similar track to storm isha, just to the north west of scotland. this is where we like to see the strongest of the winds through this evening, till 8am. this is when we have the amber warning and force up until, for north—western parts of scotland. in this zone there is likely to be a swathe of damaging wind gusts, 70 or 80 mph through the overnight period, which could cause some issues. everywhere is pretty sensitive right now after damage from storm isha, things are loosened, trees may be weakened, so there could be some big impacts again from this system. in terms of timing, another overnight storm. ., �* ,
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terms of timing, another overnight storm. . �*, ., , , ., storm. that's absolutely right, a little bit safer _ storm. that's absolutely right, a little bit safer for _ storm. that's absolutely right, a little bit safer for people - storm. that's absolutely right, a little bit safer for people not - little bit safer for people not travelling, of course. again, there could be some impact with heavy rain. we've already seen a lot of rain. we've already seen a lot of rain with storm isha, and we had snow melt because it earned so much milder across scotland. so flooding would be a problem by the time the storm moves through, because we have a number of warnings for wind and rain. there could be impact across northern england, yorkshire, north—west england and wales for heavy rain, which will exacerbate already existing flooding issues. the flooding warning numbers are starting to increase as well. you mentioned _ starting to increase as well. you mentioned the _ starting to increase as well. you mentioned the geography. it's also going to impact all corners of the uk? �* ., , , ., uk? another widespread when the event, uk? another widespread when the event. with _ uk? another widespread when the event, with widespread _ uk? another widespread when the event, with widespread gales. - uk? another widespread when the event, with widespread gales. thej event, with widespread gales. the biggest impact will be, again, closer to the centre of the low which passes to the north of scotland. which passes to the north of scotland-— which passes to the north of scotland. , ., ., which passes to the north of scotland. , ., , . . , scotland. some people are asking us at the bbc, scotland. some people are asking us at the bbc. is _ scotland. some people are asking us at the bbc, is this _ scotland. some people are asking us at the bbc, is this unseasonable - at the bbc, is this unseasonable weather, are we seeing more of this because of changes in climate, that kind of thing. does this come under that category? hat
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kind of thing. does this come under that category?— that category? not really, it's a little bit different. _ that category? not really, it's a little bit different. it's - that category? not really, it's a little bit different. it's been - little bit different. it's been chopping and changing each year. last year we only had to named storms and it was very quiet to the winter season. this year is particularly active. we are up to ten named storms. incidentally, when we started naming the storms, because it feels like questions have been asked, are they getting more common, i think it is because they are named, so it does feel that way. but in 2015-16 are named, so it does feel that way. but in 2015—16 season, when we started naming them, we actually got up started naming them, we actually got up to k, 11 storms, a very busy year. not as busy as 2013—14, where we saw the stormiest season of all for 20 years. it does chop and change each year. if for 20 years. it does chop and change each year.— for 20 years. it does chop and change each year. if you are braced for storm jocelyn, _ change each year. if you are braced for storm jocelyn, there _ change each year. if you are braced for storm jocelyn, there is - change each year. if you are braced for storm jocelyn, there is plenty i for storm jocelyn, there is plenty more details on the bbc news website or you can tune into local radio or tv.
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a parliamentary inquiry, chaired by former prime minister theresa may, has called for greater awareness and treatment for eating disorders relating to type one diabetes. it found there is a lack of understanding around how the two conditions are linked, and says there needs to be a "joined—up approach" within the nhs to tackle the issue. tim muffett has been speaking to lesley and neal davison, whose daughter megan had type one diabetes, and an eating disorder — and took her own life. she was, i'd say, a force of nature. she tried to cram as much into her 27 years as she possibly could. megan was diagnosed with type one diabetes when she was 16. the autoimmune condition meant her pancreas was unable to produce insulin needed to control blood—sugar levels, so she had to inject insulin every day. but what her family didn't know was that megan also had an eating disorder. if you don't take the insulin, sugar passes straight through your body, and so you don't get the effects of having eaten it,
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so you don't put on weight. by restricting your insulin, you can actually lose weight at the same time. it can lead to a very, very dark place, which is where megan found herself. in 2017, aged 27, megan took her own life. in the letter she left for her parents, she spoke of the turmoil caused by having a combination of type one diabetes and an eating disorder. nobody knew how to deal with the two combined. you cannot possibly have a situation where a service—user or patient knows more about their condition than the people purportedly treating them for that condition. t1de is the name given to type one diabetes—related eating disorders. a parliamentary inquiry report published today is calling for urgent changes to save lives. it says the condition is not widely recognised or understood, and that whilst — if treated early — those with t1de can recover and live well, a lack of integrated treatment, training and support is causing
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preventable ill health, and sometimes loss of life. we need better integrated services to deal with it. what happens is that those who've got type one diabetes and an eating disorder tend to be bounced around between different services. so if they need psychological support, they go to one place. if they need support from a diabetologist, they go to another place. if they need help with their feet or their eyes — which can be a complication — they have to go somewhere else. megan died in 2017, and here we are in 2024, talking about a condition which many people will not be aware of. how frustrating is that? is there a word? i mean, it seems unbelievable that there's still very little that's changed.
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we loved megan unconditionally, and she asked us to help the people that she was leaving behind, who are suffering from this condition. if somebody was to say to me, "do you want sympathy or do you want action?" i'll pick action every single time. we will pursue that till the ends of the earth, because it's what megan wanted. if you have been affected by any of the issues raised, help is available from bbc action line — just visit bbc.co.uk/actionline. some pictures that have just been coming in from westminster. you can see sir keir starmer, joined by other members of his top team, including shadow foreign secretary david lammy. he has gone into the cabinet office, for a briefing on
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the latest air strikes, which have been conducted by the uk government, in cooperation with the us. we heard from the foreign secretary david cameron, saying that these attacks are there to send the clearest possible message to the houthis that their attacks on cargo ships in the red sea are unacceptable. that is what the foreign secretary said. let's bring you these pictures now. you can see the prime minister, rishi sunak, he is welcoming the belgian prime minister. it comes as we are hearing that it is likely that the prime minister will update members of parliament during an appearance in the house of commons on tuesday. that's according to government minister huw merriman. we are waiting for a formal confirmation from the government or not. but there have been calls for
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mr sunak to appear before the house of commons and discuss the latest round of the uk and allied air strikes. so, there you have it. we do have more on the latest on those strikes on the bbc news website, we have a live page that is running. we are also running live streams on the inquiries that are happening today. the uk covid inquiry, you can see that on the right of the screen. if you go to bbc iplayer, then if you go a couple along to the left we are also live streaming the ongoing post office inquiry. if you want to stay with the news channel, that is in the middle, the feed for the bbc news channel. so, plenty to choose from on the bbc iplayer. for now, let's go to carol with the weather. hello again. storm jocelyn is bringing us some heavy rain and some strengthening winds as we go through the course of today. but it's tonight that the wind will peak with widespread gales, even severe gales in the north.
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now, this storm following on so hot on the heels of storm isha yesterday does mean that impacts are likely. so, we've got all this rain moving from the west to the east, another 60 millimetres possible across the highlands, the southern uplands, the lake district, the yorkshire dales and north wales, in areas already sensitive to the rain. and as it clears the south of england, in south wales there'll be a lot of low cloud left behind it and dank, murky conditions, with showers in the west. but look at these temperatures — 11 to 1a, very mild for this time of year. now, these blacks circles represent the strength of the wind gusts. so, continuing to pick up through the day. the met office has an amber weather warning in force from 6pm tonight till 8pm tomorrow morning, where within this area we're looking at the potential for gusts up to 80 miles an hour. so do bear that in mind. overnight tonight, too, the rain whittles down towards the southeast. the low pressure, which is storm jocelyn moves across the north of scotland. we've got that squeeze in the isobars. that's when the peak winds will be when we're looking at the severe
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gales or indeed the gales. and these are our overnight lows. we're looking at between six and 11 degrees. now, tomorrow, the winds will only slowly moderate. we'll start off with gales in scotland and also northern england. and, here, it will take much of the day for the wind to moderate. we're not talking about easing, just moderating. and then you can see, too, we've got all this cloud coming in across the southwest and we'll see some drizzle coming in here. temperatures down a little bit on today, but still seven to about 12, maybe 13 degrees. so, this is what's bringing in the cloud and the drizzle during the course of the latter part of wednesday. and on thursday, it's going to be drifting steadily northwards. thursday's going to be a fairly cloudy day, a lot of low cloud around with this rain, particularly so in the west. it's going to become breezy, if not windy. and temperaturewise, well, we're looking at six in lerwick to about 13 as we push further south. and then, as we head in towards the latter part of the week, well on friday a fairly decent day, but there'll be
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gales in the northwest. but, beyond that, changeable. live from london, this is bbc news.
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the israeli military suffers its heaviest losses since it launched its ground offensive in gaza, with 2a soldiers killed. the uk and the us carry out fresh strikes on houthi targets in yemen. britain's foreign secretary says the latest attacks are justified. what the houthis are doing is unacceptable, it is illegal and it is threatening the security of navigation. and nominations for this year's oscars will be announced today, with blockbusters oppenheimer and barbie expected to top the list. hello. welcome to this hour. we begin in the middle east, where is well�*s military says 2a soldiers were killed in central gaza on monday, making it the deadliest day for israeli forces since the start of their ground operation. in a statement, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said... "yesterday we experienced one
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of our most difficult days since the war erupted.

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