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with nikki haley hampshire with nikki haley looking to slow donald trump is like momentum following his iowa caucus victory. the next the votes are being counted in the second republican presidential contest of 202a. and in washington dc, i'm caitriona perry. thank you so much forjoining us alive here in new hampshire. polls have officially closed, the vote is under way here in new hampshire as we await the winner of tonight public primary. the us media partner cbs news is currently characterising the race as the into trouble. hundreds of thousands of votes, including independence and unaffiliated, were eligible to cast ballots for the republican nominee.
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early exit polls from our us partner cbs show self identified independents are making up about 45% of voters currently. in the iowa caucus, it is just 16% of voters are self identified as independent. i am alive in washington. since the iowa caucus, the field narrowed to just two macro candidates, donald trump and nikki haley. donald trump tonight wants to cement his position as the republican frontrunner, flooding your hips with campaign surrogates and a strong ground game. nikki haley has been narrowing the polling the in new hampshire and is hoping for a good showing herself. rebounding from her third place finish in the iowa caucus. , . , third place finish in the iowa caucus. , ., caucus. the primary today showed a _ caucus. the primary today showed a strong - caucus. the primary today showed a strong turnout l caucus. the primary today - showed a strong turnout among unaffiliated and moderate voters. let's go to gary donahue, in a polling place in manchester where a rating wrapped up in the last hour. we
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have been talking about the strong turnout, tell us more about what you have seen there. we finished the voting here about an hour ago. they are continuing the process of making those figures official but i can tell you that in manchester, they had a round 3000, just under 3000 votes cast in which is about half of the registered electorate, around 50% of the registered electorate, which is an incredibly strong turnout for a primary election. i can tell you that the unofficial figures have donald trump in the republican primary key at around 54% with nikki haley at around 54% with nikki haley at around 37%. this is a tramp area, he won this area back in 2016, and he won by a bigger margin either needed state wide. you were expecting to do
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well here but not out of sight in that sense. we will see what happens later on in some of those areas of the state where nikki haley is hoping to do strong on the coast and coastal towns and in the suburbs as well and we will see how things pan out. as stairs, he mentioned colleagues at cbs saying that donald trump is leading the race with just over 10% of the count so far. leading the race with just over 1096 of the count so far. those results are _ 1096 of the count so far. those results are trickling _ 1096 of the count so far. those results are trickling in. - 1096 of the count so far. those results are trickling in. i - results are trickling in. i want to ask you about those independent voters, those not registered as democrats or republicans who have cast their ballots. we have talked about how significant they are renewing him so. what can you tell us about the turnout there and what that might mean for the candidates was mike of course, the undeclared voters can choose to vote in the primary and a lot choose to vote into the republican primary. vote into the republican primary-— vote into the republican rima . . ., ., primary. that can have an effect on _ primary. that can have an effect on a _ primary. that can have an effect on a does - primary. that can have an effect on a does not - primary. that can have an | effect on a does not mean primary. that can have an - effect on a does not mean they will vote one way or the other
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in the general election but they may want to take part. nikki haley has polled strongly among those, so if there is a strong turnout in their group in particular, that is probably good news for her. they tend to be more moderate voters, more urban voters, and if she has managed to galvanise them to a greater degree, if you like, then regular republican voters, then regular republican voters, then her campaign will be very happy with that position. we will have to see how close she gets. by definition, in a two horse race, it will be closer thanit horse race, it will be closer than it is in a five horse race. in many ways, she should be doing better but is a question of how much better than the polling show. if she can get, at the end of the night, within single digits of donald trump, that will be incredibly good performance for her give her a good deal of momentum. if it is double—digit or big double digits, they're not so much.—
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or big double digits, they're not so much. you have been speaking _ not so much. you have been speaking to _ not so much. you have been speaking to voters, - not so much. you have been speaking to voters, what - not so much. you have been i speaking to voters, what have they been telling you through they been telling you through the course of today chris mack at depends who you speak to. if you talk to people who were supporters of donald trump, they like his strength. they like the fact he talks about immigration, they like the fact he talks about the economy. mainly they like the strong message he puts out, that is something you he time and time again. from the undeclared voters, it is a more complex message, notjust anti—donald message, not just anti—donald trump, message, notjust anti—donald trump, is about time for a change, concern about the age that he is, in the same way that he is, in the same way that democrats are concerned aboutjoe biden and his age, also a complex picture, if you like, moderates have a complex picture. how these things break down will be crucial and you have already seen donald trump running this argument about a
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and independents being allowed to vote in the republican primary. he has done that in the run—up to this primary internal again this evening. that is getting your defence in early, if it turns out to be a bit closer than he would like. of course, registered democrats of course, registered democrats are not able to vote in the republican primary, that has been very clear. if you want to switch your registration from democrat to undeclared in order to vote in the republican primary, you had to do a bye last october.— last october. indeed, an important _ last october. indeed, an important point - last october. indeed, an important point you - last october. indeed, an l important point you make last october. indeed, an - important point you make there. thank you so much for the update. great to speak with you. we are getting more details from the new hampshire exit polls, aaron porter is going through them now. it is alwa s going through them now. it is always interesting _ going through them now. it 3 always interesting to take a look at these exit polls. they give us an idea as to the motivation that has been getting voters out. we can take
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a look at some of the results on these interesting questions like what issues matter the most to. this is people who the republican primary. you can see immigration are topping that list. that is the same consolation we saw in the iowa caucuses over a week ago. you have to go down. you can see abortion, reproductive rights issues, such are coming to play. remember, something a key tenant of the democratic re—election campaign forjoe biden and kamala harris. 0n the question of whether voters consider thatjoe biden legitimately won the 2020 election, there you can see a direct even splits, 49% say and 49% say no, they do not believe thatjoe biden won the election legitimately. if you ever take a look at the results from iowa, what we saw was about two thirds of voters there saying
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that they did not believe that he won that election legitimately, particularly among donald trump voters. another question, if donald trump were to be convicted, it is still fit to be president. 0nce is still fit to be president. once again, pretty even. 50% say yes, he is and 47% saying no, he is not. casting our minds back to iowa, what we saw there among voters, saying yes, he is to the extent of 80 points or higher. what you can see from these results, what they show what, new hampshire is different to iowa. in terms of more conservative policies, stronger support for donald trump. the question is will they send out bearing out in they send out bearing out in the polls, those results are starting to trickle in and we will be bringing them to you throughout the course of the evening. throughout the course of the evenina. ., ., throughout the course of the evenina. ., ~ ,, throughout the course of the evenina. ., ~' ,, throughout the course of the evenina. ., ~' . . evening. thank you so much. we will no evening. thank you so much. we will go live _ evening. thank you so much. we will go live to _ evening. thank you so much. we will go live to our _ evening. thank you so much. we will go live to our reporter - will go live to our reporter now standing outside of the
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watch party for donald trump. he has been following the voting for us all day today. good to see you again. give us an idea of what things are like where you are quiz it will be difficult to mistake this for anything but a donald trump watch party. you this for anything but a donald trump watch party.— this for anything but a donald trump watch party. you can see behind me — trump watch party. you can see behind me there _ trump watch party. you can see behind me there are _ trump watch party. you can see behind me there are several- behind me there are several large buses adorned with donald trump slogans, you can see the donald trump supporters as they make their way into the events, which is getting going now. it resembles a fancy cocktail party of everybody in the, donald trump vip, vivek ramaswamy, one of his former rivals and the republican race he who has recently dropped out and endorsed him. even george santos, recently disgraced congressman from new york, he is there as well. plenty of celebrity faces inside the event at many fans as well. there is a long line out the
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door, about an hour good to go, waiting to clear the security to get inside the event, we were speaking with some donald trump supporters who were excited. the mood was already anticipating a victory. it felt like a victory party in hampshire for donald trump was that many people coming from out of state, i talk with a couple of donald trump supporters who say they came from massachusetts to come here to make sure they could witness donald trump on election night. we are seeing our partner cbs news saying that this party is a leaning towards donald trump. we saw donald trump and he cast his ballot earlier, he also spoke to the media. tell us more about what we have heard from him today quiz mack this has been, in a way to do, already a victory lap. we're still waiting _ already a victory lap. we're still waiting to _
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already a victory lap. we're still waiting to find - already a victory lap. we're still waiting to find out - still waiting to find out exactly where this wasteland. when you hear from exactly where this wasteland. when you hearfrom donald exactly where this wasteland. when you hear from donald trump and his supporters on the grounds, like vivek ramaswamy or senator scarr from south carolina, what they say is they are anticipating a larger victory and what they want to see is unity within the republican party, that is immensity. they say if the south end up being another dominating with donald trump, they want nikki haley to drop out of the race, they want to solidify the republican party and they would like to begin a general election campaign in opposition to the city democratic presidentjoe biden. if you are listening to nikki haley, of course she is hoping to bring her supporters out, she needs a big turnout from those independent voters and she says no matter what the result, she will continue on. her next home state of south carolina, the next on the voting calendar, coming up in february. we know she is only some advertising time on tv stations there. she has campaign events are scheduled. it does not look as if nikki
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haley will be ready to leave the campaign any time soon. 0f the campaign any time soon. of course, that is not without with ron deserted, he had said events here in new hampshire and that abruptly out. the messages this is now a two person race and a nikki haley intend to continue fighting their matter what happens in new hampshire.— their matter what happens in new hampshire. that is right. i should correct _ new hampshire. that is right. i should correct myself, - new hampshire. that is right. i should correct myself, i - new hampshire. that is right. i should correct myself, i said i should correct myself, i said donald trump casting his ballot, i meant where voters were casting their ballots today at a polling station. thank you so much. we ate with a new hampshire republican committee women now. we spoke with you last night as well. we are seeing our partner here in the us, cbs news, characterising the primary race as lean tramp.— characterising the primary race as lean tramp. what do you make of that? i as lean tramp. what do you make of that? l think _ as lean tramp. what do you make of that? l think it _ as lean tramp. what do you make of that? l think it is _ as lean tramp. what do you make of that? i think it is great, - of that? i think it is great, super early. this has been the longest day in a new hampshire
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because we really obviously have seen the people come out, they care about the first in they care about the first in the nation primary and with the others, there are many other states wanting it to be there states wanting it to be there state and joe biden trying to take it away. it is nice to have something that is a horse race. something going here than it sounds like nikki haley is holding her own against donald trump. i was listening to the radio on the way he and someone said he will end up with 58 and she will end up with 60. another station. she will end up with 60. anotherstation. i she will end up with 60. another station. i thought that would be horrible. it sounds like our primary is working and independents are coming out. we have more independence we do, other republicans or democrats, and while some of the far—right at the far—left think it should be a closed primary, this is what we like to see.- what we like to see. this is what we like to see. this is wh we what we like to see. this is why we live _ what we like to see. this is why we live are _ what we like to see. this is why we live are open. - what we like to see. this is why we live are open. you | why we live are open. you want to see a close _ why we live are open. you want to see a close race _ why we live are open. you want to see a close race he? - why we live are open. you want to see a close race he? i - why we live are open. you want to see a close race he? i do, i l
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to see a close race he? i do, i want people to have a chance. if you have a candidate who would just walk in and be the winner every time, you do not need the primaries, you do not need the primaries, you do not need all the effort that goes into this and other people going to everybody was like and events to meet these people. while donald trump only does a large event and not let them, there are people meeting one on one. nikki haley and the other candidates have been to people's homes, they have had all sorts of events and they have worked hard, really works hard. it have worked hard, really works hard. , , ., ., have worked hard, really works hard. ,, ., ., . hard. it is showing today. we should say — hard. it is showing today. we should say it _ hard. it is showing today. we should say it is _ hard. it is showing today. we should say it is leaning - hard. it is showing today. we | should say it is leaning donald trump and very few precincts of reporting so far. we are still winning for the results. if you look at the polls, of holes and in the lottery, donald trump a sizeable lead in the polls. why do you think that i think it was the republicans,
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his die—hard loyal people love him and a lot of people do not like president biden and so they went back to something they went back to something they knew, went back to trump but there are a lot of other people looking for change. he must've been serving a message as well if you looked as —— he must've been serving a message if you look at the polls. he talks about _ if you look at the polls. he: talks about closing the border. he talks about the wall. he talks about the economy. i for one i do not think the president controls the economy. we have had good economy under all sorts of different presidents. but he makes people think he controls all of these things but i am not sure that is true and that they believe in. there are loyal and avid supporters and the rest get split up between the others. i
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was hoping there would be a fight here because i would rather see south carolina have a real primary as well. that was going _ a real primary as well. that was going to _ a real primary as well. that was going to be _ a real primary as well. that was going to be my - a real primary as well. that was going to be my next i was going to be my next question. what are you looking for? i question. what are you looking for? ., ., ., question. what are you looking for? ., ., 4' ., question. what are you looking for? ., ., for? i looking for nikki to continue _ for? i looking for nikki to continue to _ for? i looking for nikki to continue to south - for? i looking for nikki to i continue to south carolina. we need more _ continue to south carolina. we need more primaries. more competitive races. 0ne need more primaries. more competitive races. one more question, you have been travelling around meeting with republican party members, committee chair people as well, what are they saying about this race? a, what are they saying about this race? �* ., ., , .,, what are they saying about this race? �* ., ., , race? a lot of the people i saw yesterday _ race? a lot of the people i saw yesterday thought _ race? a lot of the people i saw yesterday thought it _ race? a lot of the people i saw yesterday thought it was i race? a lot of the people i saw yesterday thought it was going j yesterday thought it was going to be trump all the way and he was going to smoke her there are others working so hard and working late, up to the last minute, as trump is, i am surprised he is here for the
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whole week and he has been to the polling places because it is not something we have seen before. if is not something we have seen before. ., , before. if donald trump went the nomination, _ before. if donald trump went the nomination, those - the nomination, those republicans you have been speaking with, will rally behind donald trump? i do not think all of— behind donald trump? i do not think all of them _ behind donald trump? i do not think all of them are _ behind donald trump? i do not think all of them are i - behind donald trump? i do not think all of them are i think i think all of them are i think he appears divisive to a lot of people and i'm not sure everyone will rally behind him if it is against biden. i think maybe biden has a pretty good shot if it is trump versus biden. ., ., shot if it is trump versus biden. ., ~' shot if it is trump versus biden. . ~ ., shot if it is trump versus biden. . ., ., , biden. thank you for 'oining us toda , biden. thank you for 'oining us today. juliana _ biden. thank you forjoining us today, juliana bergeron. i over to you caitriona. and we have some breaking news. us media reports that former president donald trump will win the new hampshire primary. this is a critical win for mr trump who is looking to solidify his hold on the republican nomination. with me again, rodney davis,
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marc lotter and katty kay. a little inevitable but a great night for donald trump. marc lotter fullstop not always does new hampshire nominate the eventual nominee. x�*t�*oll new hampshire nominate the eventual nominee.— eventual nominee. you have bernie sanders _ eventual nominee. you have bernie sanders winning. i eventual nominee. you have| bernie sanders winning. paul sanders beating bill clinton. into thousands, george w bush was beaten. but this is rock—solid and now of the focus is moving to south carolina and it does not look good and we have not had any new polling since vivek ramaswamy ron desantis has gone and but the numbers are going to donald trump. numbers are going to donald trum -. , numbers are going to donald trum. , ., numbers are going to donald trum. ,~~~ ::f numbers are going to donald trum. ,~ ::f ., trump. only about 2096 of the actual results _ trump. only about 2096 of the actual results in _ trump. only about 2096 of the actual results in and _ trump. only about 2096 of the actual results in and that i trump. only about 2096 of the actual results in and that is i actual results in and that is showing a margin of 5—6%.
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rodney, what do you think that is going to mean for nikki haley? i is going to mean for nikki hale ? ., ., ., haley? i do not think it matters _ haley? i do not think it matters if— haley? i do not think it matters if she - haley? i do not think it matters if she loses i haley? i do not think it matters if she loses by| haley? i do not think it i matters if she loses by one point — matters if she loses by one point or— matters if she loses by one point or 21 points, donald trump _ point or 21 points, donald trump will sell this as a mandate, as a victory and do not underestimate the ron desantis voters going to donald trump — desantis voters going to donald trump. that was a big deal. polling _ trump. that was a big deal. polling shows that if you are not a — polling shows that if you are not a trump photo you are a ron desantis _ not a trump photo you are a ron desantis voter and nikki haley 's last— desantis voter and nikki haley '5 last date was here in new hampshire. independent voters, who are — hampshire. independent voters, who are legally able to cast their— who are legally able to cast their vote and they should be, if she — their vote and they should be, if she would have had the mccain_ if she would have had the mccain surge of 2000, she could have _ mccain surge of 2000, she could have made it competitive. bill clinton — have made it competitive. bill clinton lost iowa and new hampshire but he could say he was a — hampshire but he could say he was a comeback kid with momentum into the south. icy
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haley— momentum into the south. icy haley getting clobbered in south _ haley getting clobbered in south carolina after this. katty _ south carolina after this. katty kay?— south carolina after this. katty kay? not think it is iioin katty kay? not think it is going to _ katty kay? not think it is going to be _ katty kay? not think it is going to be spending i katty kay? not think it is| going to be spending that katty kay? not think it is - going to be spending that much time _ going to be spending that much time it— going to be spending that much time it is— going to be spending that much time it is a _ going to be spending that much time. it is a two—person- going to be spending that much time. it is a two—person race, l time. it is a two—person race, joe biden— time. it is a two—person race, joe biden and _ time. it is a two—person race, joe biden and donald - time. it is a two—person race, joe biden and donald trump. | joe biden and donald trump. there — joe biden and donald trump. there was— joe biden and donald trump. there was some _ joe biden and donald trump. there was some prospect i joe biden and donald trump. l there was some prospect that may— there was some prospect that may he — there was some prospect that may be nikki _ there was some prospect that may be nikki haley _ there was some prospect that may be nikki haley might- there was some prospect that may be nikki haley might be i may be nikki haley might be able — may be nikki haley might be able to— may be nikki haley might be able to go— may be nikki haley might be able to go somewhere - may be nikki haley might be able to go somewhere but i may be nikki haley might be i able to go somewhere but she needed — able to go somewhere but she needed to— able to go somewhere but she needed to win _ able to go somewhere but she needed to win new— able to go somewhere but shej needed to win new hampshire able to go somewhere but she i needed to win new hampshire to do that — needed to win new hampshire to do that there _ needed to win new hampshire to do that. there are _ needed to win new hampshire to do that. there are interesting i do that. there are interesting questions _ do that. there are interesting questions as _ do that. there are interesting questions as we go _ do that. there are interesting questions as we go through . do that. there are interesting i questions as we go through the results. — questions as we go through the results. how— questions as we go through the results, how many— questions as we go through the results, how many republicansj results, how many republicans did not— results, how many republicans did not vote _ results, how many republicans did not vote for _ results, how many republicans did not vote for donald - results, how many republicansj did not vote for donald trump? how— did not vote for donald trump? how many— did not vote for donald trump? how many democrats - did not vote for donald trump? how many democrats did - did not vote for donald trump? how many democrats did not . did not vote for donald trump? i how many democrats did not vote forjoe _ how many democrats did not vote forjoe biden _ how many democrats did not vote forjoe biden. both— how many democrats did not vote forjoe biden. both camps- how many democrats did not vote forjoe biden. both camps will- forjoe biden. both camps will be looking _ forjoe biden. both camps will be looking at _ forjoe biden. both camps will be looking at those _ forjoe biden. both camps will be looking at those numbers i forjoe biden. both camps willl be looking at those numbers to see vulnerabilities. _ be looking at those numbers to see vulnerabilities.— see vulnerabilities. results comini see vulnerabilities. results coming in. _ see vulnerabilities. results coming in, manchester, i see vulnerabilities. results| coming in, manchester, the major urban area in new hampshire, two thirds of the way in and donald trump is up by 13. concord, nikki haley is slightly ahead but the rest of
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the state, especially the suburbs, very strong for trump and they have not come in yet. it may go to similar polls. some of the major urban centres are coming in now.— are coming in now. nikki haley is already _ are coming in now. nikki haley is already speaking _ are coming in now. nikki haley is already speaking tonight i are coming in now. nikki haley is already speaking tonight so l is already speaking tonight so let's cross over and have a listen to what she is saying. endorsement from the governor, chris exclamation cheering and applause. i mean, a true governor that does not stand behind a podium, he shows up at a diner, and the brewery, he loves the people of new hampshire and he has been with me every single day and every single event. chris, i could not have done it without you. cheering and applause. and i want to thank someone who was with me on day one, he's a patriot, he is a hard—core
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conservative and he is my friend, general don baldrick and sharon, thank you so much. cheering and applause. i want to congratulate donald trump on his victory tonight. he earned it and i want to acknowledge that. now, you have all heard the chatter among the political place, they are falling all over themselves saying if this race is over... it is not over! cheering and applause well, i have news for all of them, new hampshire is first in the nation, it is not the last in the nation. cheering and applause. this race is farfrom over. there are dozens of
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states left to go. cheering and applause. let states left to go. cheering and applause. , ., states left to go. cheering and applause. _, ., . applause. let your nikki voice be heard.- _ applause. let your nikki voice be heard,. and _ applause. let your nikki voice be heard,. and the _ applause. let your nikki voice be heard,. and the next - applause. let your nikki voice be heard,. and the next one i applause. let your nikki voice be heard,. and the next one is| be heard,. and the next one is my sweet _ be heard,. and the next one is my sweet state of _ be heard,. and the next one is my sweet state of south i my sweet state of south carolina! cheering and applause at one point in this campaign, there were ilt at one point in this campaign, there were ia of us running and we were at 2% in the polls. well, i am a fighter... cheering and applause... and i am scrappy and now we are the last one standing next to donald trump. cheering and applause. and today we got close to half of the vote. we still have a ways to go but we keep moving up. cheering and
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applause. yes! fora keep moving up. cheering and applause. yes! for a lot of people politics is way too personal but it is not personal for me. i voted for trump twice. i was proud to serve america in his cabinet. i agree with many of his policies. i decided to run because i am worried about the future of our country and because it is time to put their negativity and chaos behind us. cheering and applause. we have an economy thatis applause. we have an economy that is crushing middle—class americans, we have a border thatis americans, we have a border that is totally open and dangerous, creating a disaster... dangerous, creating a disaster. . ._ dangerous, creating a disaster... ~ . , disaster... we have been listening _ disaster... we have been listening to _ disaster... we have been listening to nikki - disaster... we have been listening to nikki haley, l disaster... we have been i listening to nikki haley, who has lost new hampshire, congratulating donald trump and saying the race is far from
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over. she is not last in the nation. what is the road to her now? i nation. what is the road to her now? ., ., , ., now? i do not see a path. first, congratulations i first, congratulations president trump, you have done what _ president trump, you have done what many— president trump, you have done what many candidates have not done _ what many candidates have not done before. you chris through iowa _ done before. you chris through iowa and — done before. you chris through iowa and new hampshire as a non—encumbered. voters in those two states— non—encumbered. voters in those two states are traditionally the barometer of republican voters — the barometer of republican voters the rest of the way and clearly — voters the rest of the way and clearly said they want president trump and his policies. i cannot see a path for nikki _ policies. i cannot see a path for nikki haley to go back to his date of south carolina marc lotter— his date of south carolina marc lotter where said earlier she is losing _ lotter where said earlier she is losing by 30 points, and go there — is losing by 30 points, and go there and _ is losing by 30 points, and go there and think she is going to come — there and think she is going to come out _ there and think she is going to come out of it in a better spot ithink— come out of it in a better spot i think she _ come out of it in a better spot i think she drops. she come out of it in a better spot i think she drops.— i think she drops. she is the primary. _ i think she drops. she is the primary, donald _ i think she drops. she is the primary, donald trump i i think she drops. she is the primary, donald trump is i i think she drops. she is the primary, donald trump is in| i think she drops. she is the i primary, donald trump is in the caucus so she will get all the
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delegates. i caucus so she will get all the delegates-— delegates. i guess she could wait to the — delegates. i guess she could wait to the nevada _ delegates. i guess she could wait to the nevada primary. | delegates. i guess she could | wait to the nevada primary. i mean. — wait to the nevada primary. i mean. she _ wait to the nevada primary. i mean, she sank— wait to the nevada primary. i mean, she sank this - wait to the nevada primary. i mean, she sank this evening| mean, she sank this evening she's— mean, she sank this evening she's not— mean, she sank this evening she's not going _ mean, she sank this evening she's not going to— mean, she sank this evening she's not going to drop i mean, she sank this evening she's not going to drop out i mean, she sank this evening i she's not going to drop out and she's not going to drop out and she still— she's not going to drop out and she still has— she's not going to drop out and she still has money— she's not going to drop out and she still has money in- she's not going to drop out and she still has money in the i she still has money in the bank _ she still has money in the bank she _ she still has money in the bank. she raised - she still has money in the bank. she raised $25- she still has money in the i bank. she raised $25 million and spent _ bank. she raised $25 million and spent quite _ bank. she raised $25 million and spent quite a _ bank. she raised $25 million and spent quite a chunk- bank. she raised $25 million and spent quite a chunk of. bank. she raised $25 million. and spent quite a chunk of that in iowa — and spent quite a chunk of that in iowa and _ and spent quite a chunk of that in iowa and new hampshire. it| in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard _ in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard to _ in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard to see _ in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard to see a _ in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard to see a path- in iowa and new hampshire. it is very hard to see a path to i is very hard to see a path to victory— is very hard to see a path to victory for— is very hard to see a path to victory for her. _ is very hard to see a path to victory for her. she - is very hard to see a path to victory for her. she then i is very hard to see a path to. victory for her. she then gets into— victory for her. she then gets into a — victory for her. she then gets into a situation _ victory for her. she then gets into a situation where, - victory for her. she then gets into a situation where, if- victory for her. she then gets into a situation where, if she| into a situation where, if she has — into a situation where, if she has a — into a situation where, if she has a proportion _ into a situation where, if she has a proportion of— into a situation where, if she has a proportion of the - has a proportion of the delegates, _ has a proportion of the delegates, come - has a proportion of thej delegates, come much has a proportion of the - delegates, come much faith and super— delegates, come much faith and super tuesday. _ delegates, come much faith and supertuesday, if— delegates, come much faith and super tuesday, if she _ delegates, come much faith and super tuesday, if she does - delegates, come much faith and super tuesday, if she does not i super tuesday, if she does not win at— super tuesday, if she does not win at this _ super tuesday, if she does not win at this date, _ super tuesday, if she does not win at this date, she _ super tuesday, if she does not win at this date, she cannot i win at this date, she cannot -et win at this date, she cannot get the _ win at this date, she cannot get the delegates. - win at this date, she cannot get the delegates. i- win at this date, she cannot get the delegates. ijust i win at this date, she cannot get the delegates. ijust do| get the delegates. ijust do not see _ get the delegates. ijust do not see the _ get the delegates. ijust do not see the numbers - get the delegates. ijust do . not see the numbers stacking up. not see the numbers stacking u -. ,., not see the numbers stacking u i _ , ., ., ., not see the numbers stacking up. going home to south carolina _ up. going home to south carolina where _ up. going home to south carolina where the i up. going home to south| carolina where the sitting governor, the two state senators and one of the key congressional members have endorsed donald trump in the past week, you are going there with your entire people are used to serve alongside a who
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are saying we are choosing the other guy and not you, that sends a very strong signal to where this is headed.- sends a very strong signal to where this is headed. when we were in our— where this is headed. when we were in our and _ where this is headed. when we were in our and ron _ where this is headed. when we were in our and ron desantis i were in our and ron desantis pledged to stay in the race, and then didn't. is there a chance nikki haley will do that? �* , ~ that? absolutely. while her funders may _ that? absolutely. while her funders may continue i that? absolutely. while her funders may continue to i that? absolutely. while her funders may continue to fit | that? absolutely. while her. funders may continue to fit the bill, but how much will you continue to throw money and investments that have no path. she will think what is next politically? do you want to potentially save in a cabinet or be elected to another office? because the further you go down the state the more you make yourself unelectable to maga voters and other voters. is there any logic in nikki haley to stay there just in
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case for some reason donald trump does not get through the convention?— trump does not get through the convention? some of the people i have convention? some of the people i have spoken — convention? some of the people i have spoken to _ convention? some of the people i have spoken to who _ convention? some of the people i have spoken to who are - convention? some of the people i have spoken to who are close i i have spoken to who are close to the — i have spoken to who are close to the nikki _ i have spoken to who are close to the nikki haley _ i have spoken to who are close to the nikki haley campaign i to the nikki haley campaign have — to the nikki haley campaign have suggested _ to the nikki haley campaign have suggested she - to the nikki haley campaign have suggested she might. to the nikki haley campaign. have suggested she might sit pretty— have suggested she might sit pretty and _ have suggested she might sit pretty and wait _ have suggested she might sit pretty and wait to _ have suggested she might sit pretty and wait to see - have suggested she might sit pretty and wait to see some i have suggested she might siti pretty and wait to see some of these — pretty and wait to see some of these legal— pretty and wait to see some of these legal cases— pretty and wait to see some of these legal cases play- pretty and wait to see some of these legal cases play out i pretty and wait to see some of these legal cases play out in. these legal cases play out in order— these legal cases play out in order to _ these legal cases play out in order to be _ these legal cases play out in order to be the _ these legal cases play out in order to be the next - these legal cases play out in. order to be the next candidate if donaldm _ order to be the next candidate if donald... were _ order to be the next candidate if donald... were donald i order to be the next candidate i if donald... were donald trump, a court _ if donald... were donald trump, a court case _ if donald... were donald trump, a court case going _ if donald... were donald trump, a court case going through - if donald... were donald trump, a court case going through and l a court case going through and he be — a court case going through and he be convicted. _ a court case going through and he be convicted. let's- a court case going through and he be convicted. let's say- a court case going through and he be convicted. let's say he l he be convicted. let's say he has — he be convicted. let's say he has won_ he be convicted. let's say he has won the _ he be convicted. let's say he has won the primary - he be convicted. let's say he has won the primary is, - he be convicted. let's say he has won the primary is, they| has won the primary is, they are all— has won the primary is, they are all over_ has won the primary is, they are all overand _ has won the primary is, they are all over and he - has won the primary is, they are all over and he were - has won the primary is, they are all over and he were to i has won the primary is, they. are all over and he were to go toa— are all over and he were to go to a case _ are all over and he were to go toa case and_ are all over and he were to go to a case and was— are all over and he were to go to a case and was convicted . are all over and he were to go to a case and was convicted in the summer. _ to a case and was convicted in the summer, but— to a case and was convicted in the summer, but he's- to a case and was convicted in the summer, but he's the - the summer, but he's the candidate _ the summer, but he's the candidate. are _ the summer, but he's the candidate. are you - the summer, but he's the candidate. are you a - the summer, but he's the i candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? _ candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? we _ candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? we are _ candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? we are all- candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? we are all in- candidate. are you a lawyer, rodney? we are all in legali rodney? we are all in legal virgin— rodney? we are all in legal virgin territory— rodney? we are all in legal virgin territory because - rodney? we are all in legal virgin territory because we i rodney? we are all in legal. virgin territory because we do not know _ virgin territory because we do not know. would _ virgin territory because we do not know. would it— virgin territory because we do not know. would it default. virgin territory because we do not know. would it default to| not know. would it default to haley — not know. would it default to haley as _ not know. would it default to haley as second _ not know. would it default to haley as second in _ not know. would it default to haley as second in the - not know. would it default to haley as second in the race? | not know. would it default to. haley as second in the race? [it haley as second in the race? would not. iam not a haley as second in the race? would not. i am not a lawyer and — would not. i am not a lawyer and i— would not. i am not a lawyer and i did _ would not. i am not a lawyer and i did not stay in a holiday express— and i did not stay in a holiday express and will not act like one — express and will not act like one but— express and will not act like one but absolutely would go to
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a convention, depending on when it happened. if you take a step back, — it happened. if you take a step back, a — it happened. if you take a step back, a tot _ it happened. if you take a step back, a lot of talk about nikki haley — back, a lot of talk about nikki haley raising a lot of money in the test— haley raising a lot of money in the last quarter, keep in mind, when _ the last quarter, keep in mind, whenn— the last quarter, keep in mind, when a presidential candidate raises — when a presidential candidate raises $25 million, a lot of that— raises $25 million, a lot of that has— raises $25 million, a lot of that has really been budgeted and committed to tv and media advertising in the state where they— advertising in the state where they are — advertising in the state where they are running so i think what — they are running so i think what she _ they are running so i think what she is going to do, she made a _ what she is going to do, she made a smart move by conceding right— made a smart move by conceding right now— made a smart move by conceding right now when the budget is tight— right now when the budget is tight so— right now when the budget is tight so she is able to say it was — tight so she is able to say it was close. i do not think it wilt— was close. i do not think it will end _ was close. i do not think it will end up as close as it is right— will end up as close as it is right now— will end up as close as it is right now but we will see. i think— right now but we will see. i think is— right now but we will see. i think is going to take a step back, — think is going to take a step back, sit— think is going to take a step back, sit with a campaign team, including — back, sit with a campaign team, including a — back, sit with a campaign team, including a friend of mine rick wiley— including a friend of mine rick wiley and they will look at the account — wiley and they will look at the account and see what they have left because even if she comes out of— left because even if she comes out of here and wants to stay in the — out of here and wants to stay in the race, even the diner supporting her who started supporting her who started supporting ron desantis are not going _ supporting ron desantis are not going to — supporting ron desantis are not going to make a bad investment.
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she did _ going to make a bad investment. she did spend a lot of money in iowa _ she did spend a lot of money in iowa aiready~ _ she did spend a lot of money in iowa already. find _ she did spend a lot of money in iowa already.— iowa already. and even if for some unforeseen _ iowa already. and even if for some unforeseen reason - iowa already. and even if for i some unforeseen reason these delegates become available, think of the people, including stephen bannon, donald trump jr, a lot of people who were key in the maga movement have said no to nikki haley being a vice presidential pic and i do not see a convention of 1200 delegates are suddenly going we like her again. someone else will in mortgage —— emerge. everything is up for grabs. plenty more to talk about as the night goes on bye for now we go back to new hampshire and to sumi. we are back with our special coverage of the new hampshire republican primary. our us media partner cbs news is projecting that donald trump is indeed the winner. of course, he led in the polls throughout. a big question will be how
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rival nicki haley fared, when all the votes are counted. joining me live is our reporter carl nasman, who is outside the trump watch party in nashua, new hampshire. he has been following this for us all evening. good to see you. about 18% of the votes counted right now but tell us your thoughts on what we have seen so far? ads, your thoughts on what we have seen so far?— seen so far? a 'ubilant mood here at the — seen so far? ajubilant mood here at the donald _ seen so far? ajubilant mood here at the donald trump - seen so far? ajubilant mood - here at the donald trump launch party. already had the feeling of a victory party even above we got any results or projections coming in. we have seen a couple of early leavers and they came out in a good mood as they were walking back to their cars. this is a packed house here, a bit like a big cocktail party, plenty of donald trump supporters, politicians and the house as well including former rivals like vivek ramaswamy who was running against the former president and now he is fully endorsing him. we have seen on
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the campaign a fundraising e—mail release, celebrating what they are calling a winner in new hampshire, a big win. also a post on truth social taking a dig at nikki haley say that she said she needed to win a new hampshire and that she did not. what donald trump will be watching very closely will be watching very closely will be the margin of victory here. he is hoping for a large one, double digit as big as he can build, because what his campaign really wants to do is wrap this nomination up as quickly as possible and as convincingly as possible. that would be a big part of it. we had from nikki haley, saying earlier during her speech that new hampshire is the first primary are not the last one but it does become difficult to continue when polling does not look good and you have a re—lost a couple of states by convincing margins. what we know is donald trump hopes to project his aura of
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inevitability, he wants to be seen as the obvious frontrunner and obvious potential nominee for the republican party, not only because that is good for his campaign but good for him in a legal sense as well, there are four macro criminal indictments he is facing and he will have some court appearances in some trials. he will have to deal with those in 2024. it will make it easier for him if he nomination is wrapped up in his team can begin to focus solely on what is going on in the court room. what we have sensory is a jubilant mood here at the watch party and this will probably be a party that goes on for a couple of more hours, plenty to celebrate its arrival donald trump. i celebrate its arrival donald trum - . ., celebrate its arrival donald trum - . . ., celebrate its arrival donald trum -. . ., , trump. i imagine that is certainly _ trump. i imagine that is certainly the _ trump. i imagine that is certainly the case - trump. i imagine that is certainly the case the. l trump. i imagine that is i certainly the case the. you have been speaking to some of the folks who have come out for the folks who have come out for the watch party, also supporters of the former president who have cast their ballots across to have today. tell us what they have been telling you?— tell us what they have been telling you? tell us what they have been tellin: ou? ~ , , .,~ ., telling you? when you speak to
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donald trump _ telling you? when you speak to donald trump supporters - telling you? when you speak to donald trump supporters and i donald trump supporters and voters, they seem confident that this was going to be a win. it was not in doubt for them. many of those i spoke with said they also never in doubt of her own they wanted to vote for a not much they could change their minds. they were here to vote for donald trump to know other candidates. earlier i was in manchester, a polling station where the crowd and voters were mixed, i was told by election officials there that the registered voters were almost an even split, so a third democrat, the republican and the independent. i encountered more nikki haley supporters than i did donald trump supporters but what i can say is that the unifying feeling among most of those voters was one of satisfaction, the overall state of the country, the economy, whether they were supporting nikki haley or trump, potentially voting for a democrat, and still people that happy. people
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said they wanted a change in weather it will be nikki haley making the change of donald trump way back into office, thatis trump way back into office, that is what a shame up to vote for. there were also interesting feelings i got from voters, one i spoke with who actually registered democrat and switch to the republican party so he could cast his vote for nikki haley. he said he was worried about the state of the war in gaza, he was hoping for a ceasefire and that is why he was there, to send a message to democrats, by voting for nikki haley. 0f democrats, by voting for nikki haley. of course, it ended up being a big win tonight for donald trump and we will see as as result coming, the projections show trump and we will wait for the margin of victory will be crucial to see how big that is.— how big that is. absolutely, that will be _ how big that is. absolutely, that will be the _ how big that is. absolutely, that will be the key - how big that is. absolutely, that will be the key to - how big that is. absolutely, l that will be the key to watch. 0ur reporter outside the watch party for the former president. good to talk to, we will talk you a bit later. i will hand back to katrina in the studio.
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exit polls showed the economy is the number one issue for voters in new hampshire tonight. on paper — the us economy is performing very well, despite inflation hitting 40—year highs in 2022. fast forward to today — where we are seeing wall street shatter records. the s&p 500, which tracks share prices of america's biggest companies closed last week at an all—time high. us unemployment numbers are also encouraging. a recent report from the bureau of labor statistics show the current unemployment rate at 3.7 percent. last month also saw 216,000 jobs added to the workforce. and consumer sentiment surged to its highest level in 2.5 years, coming in at 78.8 — that's a big jump from just last month, where the index came in at 69.7. that's according to a report from the university of michigan. it's a reflection of the improving mood of buyers across all ages, income groups, education levels and political affiliations. but despite all this, inflation, the growing cost of everyday
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goods like food and gas has become a key economic issue for candidates on trail. joining me live is tomas philipson, former acting chair, white house council of economic advisor, and betsey stevenson, former chief economist at the us labor department under0bama. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. on paper, the economy is doing well underjoe biden, the record job growth, stagnant and falling inflation, why does he not seem to be getting credit for that? ~ ., not seem to be getting credit for that? ~ . , ., for that? we have been through a eriod for that? we have been through a period of— for that? we have been through a period of tremendous - for that? we have been through a period of tremendous change. that— a period of tremendous change. that period of change also included a high, unusually high inflation. the inflation was happening all around the globe
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but it— happening all around the globe but it is— happening all around the globe but it is a — happening all around the globe but it is a matter, people care about — but it is a matter, people care about what happens at home, and we have _ about what happens at home, and we have higher than normal inflation, _ we have higher than normal inflation, and that means that even — inflation, and that means that even if— inflation, and that means that even if your wages go up, you felt like — even if your wages go up, you felt like you were falling behind when you turn to the store — behind when you turn to the store to _ behind when you turn to the store to purchase things with your— store to purchase things with your wages. store to purchase things with yourwages. people have store to purchase things with your wages. people have been extremely frustrated by that. even — extremely frustrated by that. even though the inflation rate has started to slow and is returning to normal, in some way— returning to normal, in some way ctose _ returning to normal, in some way close to normal now, what we have — way close to normal now, what we have is— way close to normal now, what we have is a higher price tevet~ _ we have is a higher price level. people take a long time to adjust— level. people take a long time to adjust to that, to react to that — to adjust to that, to react to that that— to adjust to that, to react to that. that is one of the big problems that president biden has _ problems that president biden has. ~ ., , . ,, . has. when voters talk about the economy. _ has. when voters talk about the economy. is _ has. when voters talk about the economy, is actually _ has. when voters talk about the economy, is actually more - has. when voters talk about the economy, is actually more an i economy, is actually more an affordability situation they are talking about that troubling them? i are talking about that troubling them? i think so. when a joe _ troubling them? i think so. when a joe biden - troubling them? i think so. when a joe biden got - troubling them? i think so. when a joe biden got into l when a joe biden got into office, we had a 6% growth, we had a stock market that was booming. he inherited a good economy even though it was the
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first year of covid—19. what has happened since his workers are poorer in real terms, their paycheques and not by as much as they used to. that is a big issue because there is a huge contrast between the two candidates, on how well the poor have done, essentially. with a trump we had enormous wage growth for the blue—collar population essentially and we had no inflation, low interest rate, cheap energy and a booming stock market. you mention the stock market. the stock market underjoe biden is only a 25% opposed to 45% under trump the three years. keep in mind that stock market, the 25%, is that is valuable because inflation is up 18% so it is only up 7% in real terms. it is not a great market, a new record, but a nominal record, not a real record. people are
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reading a lot of the statistics the wrong way.— reading a lot of the statistics thewronawa. ., .. . , the wrong way. economic changes alwa s the wrong way. economic changes always have _ the wrong way. economic changes always have a _ the wrong way. economic changes always have a time _ the wrong way. economic changes always have a time lag, _ the wrong way. economic changes always have a time lag, don't - always have a time lag, don't they? the president put policy in place and they may be out of office before people see the benefit of those. the office before people see the benefit of those.— benefit of those. the issue here is that _ benefit of those. the issue here is that it _ benefit of those. the issue here is that it is _ benefit of those. the issue here is that it is a - benefit of those. the issue here is that it is a soccer . here is that it is a soccer game, to take the british analogy, to a football game in the us. if you were down five goals at half—time and then you score a goal, you were still on the losing team. that is where the losing team. that is where the biden folks are today. there is enormous damage being donein there is enormous damage being done in the first 2.5 years of his term. in the last six months, things have picked up greatly people are remembering the 2.5 years before things started to improve in the last half year. started to improve in the last half year-— started to improve in the last half ear. . , . ., half year. the abiding team are hoine half year. the abiding team are hoping that _ half year. the abiding team are hoping that that _ half year. the abiding team are hoping that that progress - half year. the abiding team are hoping that that progress kicks| hoping that that progress kicks off in the next few months and then when folks go to general
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election polls in november, thatis election polls in november, that is what they are concentrating on? inaudible mac. i almost don't know where tarmac— i almost don't know where tarmac under the biden administration, we had inequality. iam not administration, we had inequality. i am not sure how much credit the president deserves. inaudible. the people who have struggled the most are people who have
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not changed jobs, more like middle—aged people who have been — middle—aged people who have been in — middle—aged people who have been injobs for a number of years— been injobs for a number of yearsand_ been injobs for a number of years and their bosses have decided _ years and their bosses have decided not to give them pay increases, so their wages have declined — increases, so their wages have declined. the people who have done _ declined. the people who have done well are younger people who have been able to change jobs, _ who have been able to change jobs, we have seen huge wage rate are — jobs, we have seen huge wage rate are people who were changing jobs. the people at the bottom end of the income distribution, inflation always creates— distribution, inflation always creates winners and losers. what — creates winners and losers. what is _ creates winners and losers. what is interesting to me is when — what is interesting to me is when you _ what is interesting to me is when you look at sentiment of the economy, it is not likely are really— the economy, it is not likely are really happy and the losers who were _ are really happy and the losers who were sad. everybody feels a little _ who were sad. everybody feels a little shook up by this economy that is— little shook up by this economy that is involved so much change. _ that is involved so much change, and it is firstly because they don't know what to expect _ because they don't know what to expect account on whether they will see — expect account on whether they will see wage gains in the future _ will see wage gains in the future. my hope is that if inflation does stay low, people will start — inflation does stay low, people
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will start to adjust and then they— will start to adjust and then they will be able to look at they will be able to look at the candidate on their merits, which — the candidate on their merits, which is — the candidate on their merits, which is what kinds of policies do they— which is what kinds of policies do they want. the trump administration has inflated a debt— administration has inflated a debt because of the fact that it cut — debt because of the fact that it cut revenue. you could turn back— it cut revenue. you could turn back and _ it cut revenue. you could turn back and say the biden administration has inflated because they increase spending. the question is to be one goods and services from government or not? _ and services from government or not? that— and services from government or not? that is— and services from government or not? that is the real choice when — not? that is the real choice when it— not? that is the real choice when it comes down to economic policy _ when it comes down to economic oli . ~ . ., when it comes down to economic oli . ~ . . ., policy. what we have not mention _ policy. what we have not mention the _ policy. what we have not mention the is _ policy. what we have not mention the is housing. | policy. what we have not - mention the is housing. that is unknown for the rest of this year. in terms of rate cuts that will be coming in on the impact of it?— impact of it? the interesting im act impact of it? the interesting impact is — impact of it? the interesting impact is we _ impact of it? the interesting impact is we have _ impact of it? the interesting impact is we have seen - impact of it? the interesting impact is we have seen an . impact is we have seen an enormous inflation and interest rate. if we look at where the economy has the highest degree of inflation, it is not gas and not food. it is in the price of credit essentially because it
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has raised rates enormously. if you had a mortgage at 3%, there was never 100% increase your mortgage payment every month essentially which is more inflation than many other items. most items in the economy. that is what has hit the housing market. the peculiar thing about the housing market is those high interest rates are supposed to reduce demand and there for prices in the economy, that is the whole point, in the sector such as housing, we want the rate cuts to reduce demand and there for reduce inflation. exact opposite happened in housing in the us, partly because people were holding onto their mortgages that they got during the covert 19 period when interest rates were low. the housing supply or infantry has been dramatically reduced. what has happened in the housing market is value has gone down dramatically but prices have actually escalated through these rate hikes. the rate hikes have been inflationary for about 40% of
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what we call, which excludes volatile food and energy. irate volatile food and energy. we will wait to _ volatile food and energy. we will wait to see what happens. with iowa and new hampshire voters are ready bracelets in the economy is the number one issue, that is likely to carry on throughout the year we will leave it there for the moment. thank you both thank you so much, caitriona. let's speak more about the issues relevant to the state of new hampshire, and primary voters. joining me now is nicholas sarwarck, he's the founder and executive director of the libertarian policy institute, and former chair of the libertarian national committee you are based in manchester and before we talk about the libertarian perspective, you have been looking at some of the numbers and trends, what has stood out to you? this was aeoin to has stood out to you? this was going to be _ has stood out to you? this was going to be a _ has stood out to you? this was going to be a real— has stood out to you? this was going to be a real test - has stood out to you? this was going to be a real test of- going to be a real test of nikki haley and whether or not she needed to ever perform with
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college—educated voters and really hit them strong to make up really hit them strong to make up for some deficiencies with non—college educators voters and she has done about three points better than she was expected to and that was good ground game. but the problem is that she is under performing with non—college—educated bite nine points and that is why we are seeing this ten point spread that looks like we'll hold up for election night about 55—35 for donald trump. we are waiting for many votes are still to be accounted and the results are still trickling on but from those trends, why do you think that is?— do you think that is? donald trump is — do you think that is? donald trump is reshaped - do you think that is? donald trump is reshaped the - trump is reshaped the republican party during his presidency and from his loss in 2020 and his insistence he did not lose and he has a base strongly aligned to him and nikki haley 's path was who other voters that want to move
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past trump. they tend to be independent, unaffiliated and couege independent, unaffiliated and college educated voters and new hampshire is the largest block and this year she managed to pick up almost all the independent voters because there is no democratic primary in new hampshire so the only game in town is 4—1 split of whether independent voters are going. they are voting into the republican primary because they do not like a trump so you are seeing the negative partisanship, about 40% of independent voters combined with some of the republicans who would prefer haley to trump this is the worst state trump is going to do in the primary. this is his low point. there is no path for nikki haley out of new hampshire.— no path for nikki haley out of new hampshire. they are saying this is not over _ new hampshire. they are saying this is not over but _ new hampshire. they are saying this is not over but i _ new hampshire. they are saying this is not over but i want - new hampshire. they are saying this is not over but i want to - this is not over but i want to ask about libertarian voters. which candidate seems to
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reflect their needs and issues the most? it reflect their needs and issues the most?— the most? it is a real mix. libertarian _ the most? it is a real mix. libertarian voters - the most? it is a real mix. libertarian voters tend - the most? it is a real mix. libertarian voters tend to | the most? it is a real mix. l libertarian voters tend to be mostly undeclared but some join the two parties, but they looking for more individual freedoms and some felt donald trump was a strong covid—19 policies so they leaned that way but a lot of libertarian voters are used to being the third—place finisher so they look for the rules to be followed, they look for the game to be played fairly and a lot of them were looking at someone like chris christie, who would clearly state donald trump is not ok, what he did is nota cake, it trump is not ok, what he did is not a cake, it breaks the rules. once he dropped out and nikki haley promised to part from donald trump, they do not have a place to go so that is going to be interesting coming
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out of this primary note in new hampshire. you have the state set with a rematch between biden and trump and where do they fall? do they go to a libertarian party nominee or go for biden when they voted heavily for biden in 2020. it heavily for biden in 2020. it is unknown. you have said a biden— trump match—up would leave a lot of space for a libertarian candidate, why? the count is libertarian candidate, why? tie: country is familiar libertarian candidate, why? tte: country is familiar for libertarian candidate, why? tt9 country is familiar for both of these options and they are looking at do we want to replay eight years ago or four years ago? there is a discontented voter whose last chance was nikki haley and they do not know where to go. biden has not excited them yet and trump is focusing on his base. now that we shift into the general election tonight, it is going to be up to both those camps to
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try and pull libertarian voters away from a third new option towards one of the more established parties. great to net our established parties. great to get your perspective - established parties. great to get your perspective and - established parties. great to l get your perspective and thank you forjoining us. back caitriona to you,. with me marc lotter, katty kay, rodney davis. and we'rejoined for the first time by stephanie rawlings blake. she's a democrat who served as mayor of baltimore from 2010 to 2016. we have been talking about the republican party so far. nikki haley has conceded to donald trump are ready and cbs news is predicted a windfalljoe biden. what is your view on what has happened? i appreciate the fact that nikki haley is the last woman standing in the republican party and as i see it she is playing the long game. as far as these elections 90, game. as far as these elections go, donald trump will continue to win. the issue is, will the
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court catch up with him and if the courts catch up with him, there has to be someone standing and nikki haley i think that is her long game. irate think that is her long game. we have seen _ think that is her long game. we have seen a _ think that is her long game. we have seen a statement from joe biden tonight and actually from donald trump, both a fundraising already. this is how it works. in this country it is all about the money in many ways but he seems very sad that he will be facing donald trump in november.- that he will be facing donald trump in november. that is the wa it is trump in november. that is the way it is standing _ trump in november. that is the way it is standing now. -- - trump in november. that is the way it is standing now. -- set. | way it is standing now. —— set. nikki haley is very much a long shot but i think it is good the republican party has at least another option because they need some other... i think they are looking for options and there is a lot of discontent in there is a lot of discontent in the party. i do not think donald trump is making numbers are growing. he has a solid base and if that base is not going to grow, he will end up in the same place he was against biden four years ago.
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rodney, we have seen tonight the states has allowed many independents to register and some districts, they ran out of republican forms, does that say more about donald trump or nikki haley? it more about donald trump or nikki haley?— nikki haley? it does not matter- _ nikki haley? it does not matter. nikki— nikki haley? it does not matter. nikki haley - nikki haley? it does not matter. nikki haley has| nikki haley? it does not - matter. nikki haley has lost and she _ matter. nikki haley has lost and she is losing by a big margin— and she is losing by a big margin in new hampshire and it isa margin in new hampshire and it is a message sent. i disagree with— is a message sent. i disagree with the _ is a message sent. i disagree with the assessment that donald trump _ with the assessment that donald trump is — with the assessment that donald trump is not getting stronger. when — trump is not getting stronger. when it— trump is not getting stronger. when it becomes a binary choice between — when it becomes a binary choice betweenjoe biden and donald trump. — betweenjoe biden and donald trump, a _ betweenjoe biden and donald trump, a lot of voters who gave joe biden— trump, a lot of voters who gave joe biden a _ trump, a lot of voters who gave joe biden a chance a very disgruntled with his policies along — disgruntled with his policies along the border, when it comes to the _ along the border, when it comes to the economy and in a close race, — to the economy and in a close race, low— to the economy and in a close race, low into low propensity but high _ race, low into low propensity but high intensity trump voters will come — but high intensity trump voters will come out in droves once again— will come out in droves once again and _ will come out in droves once again and that makes a
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difference in those states that joe biden barely one in 2020 and frankly the same states that— and frankly the same states that donnell trump one in 2016. one of— that donnell trump one in 2016. one of the — that donnell trump one in 2016. one of the exit polls showed a third of the voters were angry about the state of the nation but that means that under a democratic president, only one third are angry about the state of the nation. how important is the result for trump tonight? it it shows the strength of the president. new hampshire leans blue. it is not a competitive state, it is not a swing state, it will not decide the outcome of the election, it is pretty much a foregone conclusion that it is going to lean like the rest of new england to the left so when we look at those seven states that will decide this election, 150,000 voters in those seven states, all the polling shows donald trump with
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a commanding lead in all seven estates and to what rodney said, joe biden did not have a record in 2020, he was a hypothetical president, people did not necessarily like donald trump 's trees, he is not hypothetical any more. everything thatjoe biden has touched has turned into a disaster, including on the world stage where we have the middle east and europe at war and that isjoe biden and when they go to make that binary choice, it is going to be an easy choice. it is not a disaster? absolutely not. you have to discount all of the things that biden has done. we have a strong economy but you cannot say that if you are a trump supporter and you have to keep saying it is a disaster. but they do. every single issue. _ but they do. every single
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issue, joe biden is a plus points, _ issue, joe biden is a plus points, 60% of people disapprove of his handling of the fight is that nadia trump i then— the fight is that nadia trump i then think about something. both— then think about something. both have this appraisal has a peaceable result ratings. it is peaceable result ratings. it is extraordinary _ peaceable result ratings. it is extraordinary it _ peaceable result ratings. it is extraordinary it is _ peaceable result ratings. it is extraordinary it is x, - peaceable result ratings. it is extraordinary it is x, do not remember— extraordinary it is x, do not rememberand _ extraordinary it is x, do not rememberand i— extraordinary it is x, do not rememberand i did- extraordinary it is x, do not rememberand i did not- extraordinary it is x, do not. rememberand i did not relent extraordinary it is x, do not- remember and i did not relent i wasan— remember and i did not relent i wasan open— remember and i did not relent i was an open primary— remember and i did not relent i was an open primary that- remember and i did not relent i was an open primary that i- rememberand i did not relent i| was an open primary that i hope you have, — was an open primary that i hope you have, in _ was an open primary that i hope you have, in and _ was an open primary that i hope you have, in and we _ was an open primary that i hope you have, in and we have - you have, in and we have already— you have, in and we have alreadyjumped - you have, in and we have alreadyjumped ahead . you have, in and we havej alreadyjumped ahead we you have, in and we have - alreadyjumped ahead we had jump— alreadyjumped ahead we had jump to — alreadyjumped ahead we had jump to her— alreadyjumped ahead we had jump to her leisure _ alreadyjumped ahead we had jump to her leisure is- alreadyjumped ahead we had jump to her leisure is up- jump to her leisure is up election— jump to her leisure is up election flicker- jump to her leisure is up election flicker hayley. jump to her leisure is up. election flicker hayley was they — election flicker hayley was they do— election flicker hayley was they do not— election flicker hayley was they do not getting - election flicker hayley was they do not getting over. election flicker hayley was i they do not getting over they opted not _ they do not getting over they opted not do _ they do not getting over they opted not do that _ they do not getting over they opted not do that dean - they do not getting over they i opted not do that dean phillips would — opted not do that dean phillips would say— opted not do that dean phillips would say do _ opted not do that dean phillips would say do not _ opted not do that dean phillips would say do not do _ opted not do that dean phillips would say do not do that - opted not do that dean phillips would say do not do that as - would say do not do that as well— would say do not do that as well for— would say do not do that as well for the _ would say do not do that as well for the democrats. - would say do not do that as well for the democrats. we j would say do not do that as - well for the democrats. we are injanuary. _ well for the democrats. we are in january. the _ well for the democrats. we are in january. the white _ well for the democrats. we are injanuary. the white house, . injanuary. the white house, this— injanuary. the white house, this is— injanuary. the white house, this is the _ injanuary. the white house, this is the campaign - injanuary. the white house, this is the campaign they - this is the campaign they want. my conversations— this is the campaign they want. my conversations with - this is the campaign they want. my conversations with the - this is the campaign they want. i my conversations with the white house, — my conversations with the white house, they— my conversations with the white house, they made _ my conversations with the white house, they made it _ my conversations with the white house, they made it clear- my conversations with the white house, they made it clear they| house, they made it clear they want _ house, they made it clear they want a — house, they made it clear they want a nratch— house, they made it clear they want a match with _ house, they made it clear they want a match with donald - house, they made it clear they. want a match with donald trump and they— want a match with donald trump and they think _ want a match with donald trump and they think they— want a match with donald trump and they think they can - want a match with donald trump and they think they can win - want a match with donald trump and they think they can win it. i and they think they can win it. they— and they think they can win it. they see _ and they think they can win it. they see economic— and they think they can win it. i they see economic numbers... sorry for cutting you off but we need to go. stay with us here on bbc news. with storm isha still fresh
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in the memory, it has turned into yet another stormy night of weather across many parts of the uk. this time the culprit is storm jocelyn. you can see this swirl of cloud here on our earlier satellite picture, the centre of a deep area of low pressure. this met office amber warning enforced to start wednesday across northern and western parts of scotland. gusts of up to 80mph in exposed spots, bringing the risk of damage and disruption. but a windy start to wednesday across just about all parts of the uk, so those winds could cause problems if you are travelling early in the morning. low pressure then crossing to the north of the uk. all these white lines, all these isobars still squeezing together as we head into wednesday morning proper. so gales to start the day across parts of scotland and northern england especially. those winds will slowly ease as the day wears on, but i think it will stay particularly gusty into the afternoon to the eastern side of the pennines. some showers around, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern england. many of those will fade. we will see a decent amount of sunshine through the day, albeit that sunshine turning quite hazy, with high clouds streaming in from the south. another mild day —
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9 to 12 degrees. now, during wednesday night will see this band of cloud and some outbreaks of patchy rain pushing northwards and eastwards. ahead of that, some clear spells could see some fog patches developing across parts of northern england and scotland, at least for a time. and some murky conditions developing across parts of wales, south—west england, around coasts and hills, as the air turns increasingly mild. those are the temperatures to start thursday morning. so on thursday, this warm front pushing its way northwards. outbreaks of rain with that and this feed of south—westerly winds behind a wedge of really very mild air indeed. so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing north—eastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain. a few brighter glimpses, particularly to the east of high ground, anywhere where you get some shelter from the wind. but those temperatures easily nine to 13 degrees. i wouldn't be at all surprised if some were got just a little bit higher than that. and then as we head towards friday and the weekend,
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says former president donald trump has won the state's republican primary. the race was called in trump's favourjust over 20 minutes after all polls closed — a setback to former governor nikki haley. but haley vows to continue on, taking the race to her home state of south carolina. new hampshire is a first in the nation. it is not the last in the nation. this race is far from over. there are dozens of states left to go. the next one is my sweet state of south carolina. i'm caitriona perry live here in washington, dc. new hampshire marks a critical time for haley's presidential run as she looks to narrow trump's growing lead.
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