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tonight the former president took a victory lap with two of his former rivals, vivek ramaswamy and senator tim scott in tow. his team will be celebrating this win, especially since no non—incumbent has ever won both the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary — and then lost the nomination. of course, donald trump isn't your typical non—incumbent candidate. so was it the knock—out blow trump was hoping for? here's his take. we one boat. they said, somebody said if you win both, they never had a loser, let me put it that way. when you win iowa and new hampshire, they never had a loss. but, nikki haley insists she has the best chance of beating joe biden. she's vowing to continue her fight for the republican nomination in her home state of south carolina, a primary that is just a few weeks away.
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new hampshire is first in the nation, it is not the last in the nation. cheering. this race is farfrom over. there are dozens of states left to go. cheering. let the voice be heard. the next one is my sweet state of south carolina! presidentjoe biden has already reacted to media projections that trump has won new hampshire, preparing for a possible 2020 rematch. an emailfrom the biden—harris campaign says donald trump is headed straight into a general election matchup where he'll face the only person to have ever beaten him at the ballot box: joe biden. looks like donald trump and joe biden preparing for that matchup. let's discuss with our
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reporter carl nasman. very good to see you. looks like the weather has turned, sorry to catchy out in the snow. you have been able to get a feeling for how people have been feeling about the victory for donald trump. it tells more about what you have been hearing. about what you have been hearinu. , about what you have been hearing-— hearing. this watch party toni . ht hearing. this watch party tonight felt _ hearing. this watch party tonight felt a _ hearing. this watch party tonight felt a lot - hearing. this watch party tonight felt a lot like - hearing. this watch party tonight felt a lot like a i tonight felt a lot like a victory party even before we got those initial projections, calling the race for donald trump. so many supporters coming here and it felt like a big victory party from the very beginning. everyone here coming to congratulate him. they got what they wanted, at great speech, big energetic speech on stage from donald trump and they got the results coming and which are likely to show a fairly sizeable wind in new hampshire for the former president. i spoke with many of his supporters and they came in saying they were cautious about nikki haley �*s chances in new
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hampshire but work confident in the victory. here is what a couple supporters told me. like trump says. _ couple supporters told me. like trump says, always _ couple supporters told me. like trump says, always tried to act like we're — trump says, always tried to act like we're ten points down even if we _ like we're ten points down even if we are — like we're ten points down even if we are 50 points ahead. i had — if we are 50 points ahead. i had that_ if we are 50 points ahead. i had that mentality going into today — had that mentality going into today. my mentality is the fact that he — today. my mentality is the fact that he won, i don't care that it is_ that he won, i don't care that it isjustified one point, a win— it isjustified one point, a win is_ it isjustified one point, a win is a _ it isjustified one point, a win is a winner. cautiously optimistic _ win is a winner. cautiously optimistic. i— win is a winner. cautiously optimistic. i know - win is a winner. cautiously optimistic. i know the - win is a winner. cautiously i optimistic. i know the haley campaign _ optimistic. i know the haley campaign and _ optimistic. i know the haley campaign and trump - optimistic. i know the haley campaign and trump 's - optimistic. i know the haley- campaign and trump 's opponents are pulling — campaign and trump 's opponents are pulling out _ campaign and trump 's opponents are pulling out all— campaign and trump 's opponents are pulling out all the _ campaign and trump 's opponents are pulling out all the stops - are pulling out all the stops to stop _ are pulling out all the stops to stop because _ are pulling out all the stops to stop because he - are pulling out all the stops to stop because he stands. are pulling out all the stops. to stop because he stands up are pulling out all the stops - to stop because he stands up to the ruling — to stop because he stands up to the ruling class. _ to stop because he stands up to the ruling class. i— to stop because he stands up to the ruling class. i know- to stop because he stands up to the ruling class. i know he - to stop because he stands up to the ruling class. i know he wasl the ruling class. i know he was going — the ruling class. i know he was going to — the ruling class. i know he was going to come _ the ruling class. i know he was going to come out _ the ruling class. i know he was going to come out on - the ruling class. i know he was going to come out on top - going to come out on top because _ going to come out on top because there _ going to come out on top because there are - going to come out on top because there are such . going to come out on top - because there are such fierce ioyaity~ — because there are such fierce loyalty. pecpie _ because there are such fierce loyalty. people filling - because there are such fierce loyalty. people filling up - loyalty. people filling up other— loyalty. people filling up other venues, _ loyalty. people filling up other venues, calling. loyalty. people filling up i other venues, calling over broken _ other venues, calling over broken glass— other venues, calling over broken glass to _ other venues, calling over broken glass to vote - other venues, calling over broken glass to vote for. other venues, calling over. broken glass to vote for the mah — broken glass to vote for the mah people _ broken glass to vote for the man. people ordinarily- broken glass to vote for the man. people ordinarily notl broken glass to vote for the . man. people ordinarily not into politics— man. people ordinarily not into politics to _ man. people ordinarily not into politics to become _ man. people ordinarily not into politics to become fiercely- politics to become fiercely loyal — politics to become fiercely loyal to _ politics to become fiercely loyal to him _ politics to become fiercely loyal to him overnight. - politics to become fiercely loyal to him overnight. i. politics to become fiercely loyal to him overnight. loyalto him overnight. i think it was notable _
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loyalto him overnight. i think it was notable seeing - loyalto him overnight. i think it was notable seeing on - loyalto him overnight. i think| it was notable seeing on stage donald trump making that victory speech linked by a couple of former rivals. vivek ramaswamy and tim scott that only recently endorsed. in a show of unity, what the former president likely trying to do is have this aura of inevitability and try to wrap this thing up as soon as possible. already potentially looking towards a general election, rematch withjoe biden. was critical words for the president on stage tonight. other sidejoe biden also seemingly already looking ahead to rematch with donald trump. it seems now although nikki haley said she wants to continue to south carolina the very least, both sides here, the president, former president already looking ahead to a potential general election rematch in november. it does look like that.— look like that. nikki haley, not too far _ look like that. nikki haley, not too far from _ look like that. nikki haley, not too far from where - look like that. nikki haley, not too far from where we | look like that. nikki haley, - not too far from where we are,
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saying she is scrappy, fighter, staying in this was looking at the numbers we are seeing, what does the path forward look like for her? ,., does the path forward look like for her? ., ., , for her? the path forward gets a lot narrower. _ for her? the path forward gets a lot narrower. this _ for her? the path forward gets a lot narrower. this is - for her? the path forward gets a lot narrower. this is only - a lot narrower. this is only two states, not talking about delicate because there are plenty of delegates still to be awarded. if you look at a state like new hampshire, this was expected to be maybe her best chance of defeating donald trump or coming in very close second. a state with around 40% independent voters. the kind of voters that tend to vote for nikki haley. and yet here she is looking at a potential double—digit defeat in the state. going ahead, what the haley campaign says is hang on, we have a chance, still very early, south carolina and potentially friendly territory for her. a former governor although not pulling particularly well. and on super tuesday what the campaign that is there are several states with similar situation to new hampshire where there are
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either open primaries or semi— open to help cast votes for nikki haley and we know she does well with moderate republicans and unaffiliated voters. that could be a for her. there is potential she could stick it out longer and see how some of these legal cases play up for donald trump. at the same time, it became harder and harder tojustify staying in a raceway even in the state where you thought you might perform the best you still lose to what is looking like a juggernaut in the trump campaign. like a juggernaut in the trump campaign-— like a juggernaut in the trump camaiun. ., ., ,., campaign. now the race goes on. thank yon _ let's go now to helena humphrey. she's watching the results as they come in. taking a look at the latest results. we can see 73% of precincts accounted for right now. 54% to 43%. donald trump al had with 11 percentage
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points. it is provisional, keep all of this in mind. it is early but if you take a look at delegates and if things were to stay the same way, what you would see as donald trump and a total of 40% factoring in iowa as well. nikki haley taking 22%. you can see the lead growing. let's look at some of the areas where she did not do as well. perhaps to be expected but did not generally tend to be more conservative. on the 15 out of 23 precincts accounted. what you can see is a considerable lead. almost 2a percentage points between donald trump and haley. it is all that across all counties, that pretty much would be considered very dominant victory. that is not the case. let's look at what she did a bit better, one of the best performing counties overall tonight so far, 29 added that he had precincts counted as merrimack and that is where you will find the state capital of
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concord. the offices of the governor chris sununu as well. he endorsed nikki haley and that had seen some momentum. she wanted to see momentum in couege she wanted to see momentum in college towns, cases like grafton where you find dartmouth college and it is not bearing it in terms of nikki haley able to get ahead. 52% for donald trump, 44%. similar if you look at cheshire, where you will find king college. nine percentage points in it. not terrible but certainly very much an uphill battle. rockingham here as well. nikki haley has not been able to pull away even in an area where it has tended to become more democratic in recent years with voters coming up from boston. wanting to keep in mind in terms how good it predicted new hampshire is for the republican party when it comes to who goes
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on to bigger nominees, it is pretty for the republican party. only been three times in the past that another incumbent has taken new hampshire and has not gone on to secure the nomination. it gives you a picture of where donald trump is standing right now. 74% of the precincts counted. thank you so much for an update on the result. well, i spoke to lylah alphonse, the new hampshire editor for the boston globe, who's been watching these results closely as they've been coming in. new hampshire very well. i want to get your take on some of the trends coming through with these results as they have been trickling in. these results as they have been trickling im— trickling in. thank you for havinu trickling in. thank you for having me- _ trickling in. thank you for having me. i— trickling in. thank you for having me. i really- trickling in. thank you for - having me. i really appreciate it. what we are seeing now is a lot of people looking to pitt street to the general election. we had two primary is in two of the least racially diverse states in the country. there is still nevada coming up, nikki
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haley �*s home state of south carolina coming up. i think there is a lot of time to see what shakes out. with less than 50% of paul's reporting new hampshire, trump is ahead by eight percentage points. a far cry from the spread we saw in iowa. ~ cry from the spread we saw in iowa. . ., , iowa. we saw nikki haley saying earlier this _ iowa. we saw nikki haley saying earlier this race _ iowa. we saw nikki haley saying earlier this race is _ iowa. we saw nikki haley saying earlier this race is far _ iowa. we saw nikki haley saying earlier this race is far from - earlier this race is farfrom over. we have seen in many of the knee injuries and events she held over the past week, she held over the past week, she really believe she could build up some momentum. you think see what we are seeing so far, she has been successful in doing so? i far, she has been successful in doing so?— far, she has been successful in doinu so? ~ , ., ., doing so? i think she has among independents. _ doing so? i think she has among independents. the _ doing so? i think she has among independents. the real- doing so? i think she has among independents. the real hurdle i independents. the real hurdle for her is coming up with the republican base itself. even in her home state of south carolina, the state party is very much in trump �*s corner. that will be a tough wind or a tough challenge at any rate since we don't know how that will shake you. among
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independent voters, we saw a big change in herfavour in recent boston globe polling, was left biden and trump go head—to—head, at least new hampshire, biden would, in front by about ai% hampshire, biden would, in front by about a1% to 34%. it is too early to start making guesses about the general election. i think it is too early to say this primary seasonis early to say this primary season is over. i early to say this primary season is over.- early to say this primary season is over. i have been askin: season is over. i have been asking this _ season is over. i have been asking this of— season is over. i have been asking this of a _ season is over. i have been asking this of a lot - season is over. i have been asking this of a lot of - season is over. i have been asking this of a lot of the l asking this of a lot of the analysts we have had on tonight if nikki haley does not windows nomination, if it is donald trump versusjoe biden, how do you see that boat playing at new hampshire among notjust independence but also the republicans? in independence but also the republicans?— republicans? in new hampshire, our ollen republicans? in new hampshire, our pollen suggests, _ republicans? in new hampshire, our pollen suggests, trump - our pollen suggests, trump would not when in the match againstjoe biden. that said, new hampshire goes have a huge number of unaffiliated voters, independent voters who tend to
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vote differently than the republican party. i think while new hampshire, it is a very interesting race he passed concurrently it is indicative of the whole country. new hampshire as a whole during the general election is much more purple to blue and it is purple to red. we will have to see what happens. i think it is going to be an interesting couple of weeks coming up. nikki haley �*s campaign will be looking closely at these numbers. the breakdowns, the way in which people are voted in the coming days. what do you think her campaign can learn? the biggest takeaway is she needs more work on her message to the republican base. i think people don't quite see her as the alternative to trump or the one capable of beating biden as perhaps she would like to be seen. i think she spent a lot of time in new hampshire duking it out with dissenters for
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second place instead of honing her attack on track. perhaps if she had been making her case against trump much earlier we would have had a slightly different outcome tonight. fine different outcome tonight. one more question, _ different outcome tonight. one more question, some - different outcome tonight. one more question, some of the correspondence we have been speaking to said eller of the voters they talked to said they were dissatisfied with the state of the country. what does that tell you? what you make of that? i that tell you? what you make of that? 4' that tell you? what you make of that? ~ ., , , that? i think that is very interesting _ that? i think that is very interesting because - that? i think that is very interesting because a i that? i think that is very | interesting because a lot that? i think that is very i interesting because a lot of that? i think that is very - interesting because a lot of it depends on where you are getting your news, who you are hearing from and what messages you are observing from the candidates as they campaign. if you are listening to set news outlets and set reports, you would think everything was terrible. the economy was in the trashcan and that we are struggling on a number of fronts. listen to other media outlets and you would know the economy is strong, a number of successes and people feel more secure now than they did before. it is really difficult to gauge because so much
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depends on where you are getting your news and if you are getting it from one primary source or another. so are getting it from one primary source or another.— source or another. so much on how people — source or another. so much on how people vote _ source or another. so much on how people vote depends - source or another. so much on how people vote depends on i source or another. so much on i how people vote depends on how they are feeling. thank you so much forjoining us tonight, put the happy one.- much forjoining us tonight, put the happy one. thank you for having _ put the happy one. thank you for having me. _ over to you, caitriona. with me now, rodney davis. stephanie rawlings—bla ke. margaret talev. marc lotter. former campaign strategic, rector of strategic communications. it struck me listening to the interview, doing a lot of talking, all drawing conclusions from a really tiny amount of voters in iowa and new hampshire. is there a danger in reading too much into donald trump �*s performance when talking 50,000 people voting for him and 100
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something thousand and new hampshire?— we are here from 7pm to midnight talking about what happened in iowa last week. everyone of you. let me put it in perspective. right now all votes cast, notjust for donald trump, all votes cast in iowa and also within new hampshire tonight, which was double the turnout of iowa, still less than the number of people who vote in the general election. we have a very small microcosm of voters that get a very large amount of attention. it is of voters that get a very large amount of attention.- amount of attention. it is all --eole amount of attention. it is all people have _ amount of attention. it is all people have to _ amount of attention. it is all people have to go _ amount of attention. it is all people have to go on - amount of attention. it is all people have to go on at - amount of attention. it is all people have to go on at the| people have to go on at the moment that aren't false, they are actual votes cast. absolutely. but should this be the case? i don't think so. it is a — the case? i don't think so. it is a system _ the case? i don't think so. it is a system that deserves to be improved _ is a system that deserves to be improved. i think the democrats made _ improved. i think the democrats made some attempts to do that by taking — made some attempts to do that
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by taking up the primary, but it is— by taking up the primary, but it is yet— by taking up the primary, but it is vet to _ by taking up the primary, but it is yet to be seen if that is going — it is yet to be seen if that is going to _ it is yet to be seen if that is going to be helpful. these two states — going to be helpful. these two states should not have this outsized influence. it is what it is— outsized influence. it is what it is an — outsized influence. it is what it is an even though it is a small— it is an even though it is a small number, it is the history of what — small number, it is the history of what those numbers have represented two candidates in the past — represented two candidates in the past that lead us to believe that it is headed to a donald — believe that it is headed to a donald trump being the nominee. i donald trump being the nominee. i would _ donald trump being the nominee. i would say— donald trump being the nominee. i would say that i don't believe _ i would say that i don't believe poles - i would say that i don't believe poles to - i would say that i don't believe poles to be - i would say that i don't. believe poles to be seen i would say that i don't- believe poles to be seen as productive, _ believe poles to be seen as productive, they— believe poles to be seen as productive, they are - believe poles to be seen as productive, they are not. productive, they are not predictive _ productive, they are not predictive and _ productive, they are notj predictive and unhappily productive, they are not - predictive and unhappily many voters — predictive and unhappily many voters to— predictive and unhappily many voters to look— predictive and unhappily many voters to look at _ predictive and unhappily many voters to look at what - predictive and unhappily many voters to look at what i- predictive and unhappily many voters to look at what i paul i voters to look at what i paul says — voters to look at what i paul says to _ voters to look at what i paul says to decide _ voters to look at what i paul says to decide how - voters to look at what i paul says to decide how they- voters to look at what i paul i says to decide how they vote, thev _ says to decide how they vote, they should _ says to decide how they vote, they should be _ says to decide how they vote, they should be making - says to decide how they vote, they should be making votesl they should be making votes based — they should be making votes based on _ they should be making votes based on who _ they should be making votes based on who they _ they should be making votes based on who they think- they should be making votes based on who they think is i they should be making votes i based on who they think is the best— based on who they think is the best candidate _ based on who they think is the best candidate or— based on who they think is the best candidate or which - best candidate or which candidate _ best candidate or which candidate they- best candidate or which candidate they want - best candidate or which candidate they want to| best candidate or which - candidate they want to avert. having — candidate they want to avert. having said _ candidate they want to avert. having said that, _ candidate they want to avert. having said that, these - candidate they want to avert. having said that, these are i candidate they want to avert. i having said that, these are not the only— having said that, these are not the only two— having said that, these are not the only two states, _ having said that, these are not the only two states, iowa - having said that, these are not the only two states, iowa and i the only two states, iowa and new— the only two states, iowa and new hampshire, _ the only two states, iowa and new hampshire, where - the only two states, iowa and i new hampshire, where donald trump — new hampshire, where donald trump is — new hampshire, where donald trump is ahead _ new hampshire, where donald trump is ahead in— new hampshire, where donald trump is ahead in the - trump is ahead in the republican— trump is ahead in the republican contest. i trump is ahead in the - republican contest. there are no states _ republican contest. there are no states where _ republican contest. there are no states where he _ republican contest. there are no states where he is - republican contest. there are no states where he is getting i no states where he is getting the serious _ no states where he is getting the serious significant - the serious significant challenge _ the serious significant challenge and - the serious significant challenge and run - the serious significant challenge and run forl the serious significant i challenge and run for his the serious significant - challenge and run for his money from _ challenge and run for his money from an— challenge and run for his money from an array _ challenge and run for his money from an array of _ challenge and run for his money from an array of other— challenge and run for his money from an array of other rivals - from an array of other rivals who — from an array of other rivals whojust _ from an array of other rivals who just haven't _ from an array of other rivals whojust haven't had - from an array of other rivals whojust haven't had a - from an array of other rivals i whojust haven't had a chance yet whojust haven't had a chance vet and — whojust haven't had a chance vet and have _ whojust haven't had a chance yet and have been _
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whojust haven't had a chance yet and have been kind - whojust haven't had a chance yet and have been kind of- yet and have been kind of damaged _ yet and have been kind of damaged by— yet and have been kind of damaged by the - yet and have been kind of damaged by the order- yet and have been kind of damaged by the order ofl yet and have been kind of- damaged by the order of these primary— damaged by the order of these primary is— damaged by the order of these primary is an _ damaged by the order of these primary is an early— damaged by the order of these primary is an early caucus - primary is an early caucus contest~ _ primary is an early caucus contest. that _ primary is an early caucus contest. that is _ primary is an early caucus contest. that isjust- primary is an early caucus contest. that is just the i contest. that isjust the realitv _ contest. that isjust the reality. having - contest. that isjust the reality. having said - contest. that is just thel reality. having said that, contest. that is just the - reality. having said that, yes, anvthing _ reality. having said that, yes, anything can— reality. having said that, yes, anything can happen, - reality. having said that, yes, anything can happen, and - reality. having said that, yes, i anything can happen, and yes, no states, _ anything can happen, and yes, no states, no— anything can happen, and yes, no states, no voters _ anything can happen, and yes, no states, no voters locked . anything can happen, and yes, no states, no voters locked inl no states, no voters locked in until— no states, no voters locked in until that _ no states, no voters locked in until that happens, _ no states, no voters locked in until that happens, and - no states, no voters locked in until that happens, and not i until that happens, and not just— until that happens, and not just who _ until that happens, and not just who already— until that happens, and not just who already know - until that happens, and not just who already know they| until that happens, and not. just who already know they are turning — just who already know they are turning out, _ just who already know they are turning out, but— just who already know they are turning out, but the _ just who already know they are turning out, but the people - just who already know they are l turning out, but the people who are, _ turning out, but the people who are, like. — turning out, but the people who are, like. it— turning out, but the people who are, like, it doesn't _ turning out, but the people who are, like, it doesn't matter. - are, like, it doesn't matter. it are, like, it doesn't matter. it does _ are, like, it doesn't matter. it does matter. _ are, like, it doesn't matter. it does matter. every - are, like, it doesn't matter. it does matter. every vote i it does matter. every vote matters, _ it does matter. every vote matters, especially - it does matter. every vote matters, especially in - it does matter. every vote matters, especially in a i matters, especially in a primary— matters, especially in a primary or— matters, especially in a primary or in _ matters, especially in a primary or in the - matters, especially in a - primary or in the battleground state. — primary or in the battleground state. but _ primary or in the battleground state, but having _ primary or in the battleground state, but having said - primary or in the battleground state, but having said that, i state, but having said that, the polling _ state, but having said that, the polling has— state, but having said that, the polling has consistently showed _ the polling has consistently showed for— the polling has consistently showed for months - the polling has consistently showed for months that. the polling has consistently. showed for months that trump the polling has consistently- showed for months that trump is among _ showed for months that trump is among the — showed for months that trump is among the republican _ showed for months that trump is among the republican base, - among the republican base, among — among the republican base, among people _ among the republican base, among people registered - among the republican base, among people registered to| among the republican base, - among people registered to vote as republicans— among people registered to vote as republicans the _ among people registered to vote as republicans the leading - as republicans the leading choice~ _ as republicans the leading choice. ., ., , ., choice. how important is it for the ballot _ choice. how important is it for the ballot races _ choice. how important is it for the ballot races as _ choice. how important is it for the ballot races as well? - choice. how important is it for the ballot races as well? we i the ballot races as well? we discussed earlier about the house in the senate and the way the us system is for the party to have real power, they want to have real power, they want to have real power, they want to have all three of those. i to have all three of those. i think it is very important. donald trump brings out people that are not coming up for any other race, but while they are there, they will not vote for... and that is the challenge for congress and
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senators, every democrat would be a work progressive left, how that goes, it will help, it also helps that democrats have also helps that democrats have a horrible, horrible senate map in 2024. i think there is very good likelihood that the senate will flip control. i have a number of seats in states where trump notjust barely won, but massively wins, where they have democratic senators on the ballot. so it will be very difficult for them in the senate house, because places like new york and louisiana have made it much easierfor democrats, it will be very close. ., , , close. rodney, in the past, caettin close. rodney, in the past, getting an _ close. rodney, in the past, getting an endorsement. close. rodney, in the past, i getting an endorsement from donald trump wasn't necessarily a coronation for a candidate, but it would seem that perhaps it might be this time around. well, it certainly reason i am sitting — well, it certainly reason i am sitting here instead of congress. look, in certain districts. _ congress. look, in certain districts, having an endorsement from donald trump
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is the _ endorsement from donald trump is the coronation, it allows that— is the coronation, it allows that candidate to have credibility with voters who may not know — credibility with voters who may not know either candidate, especially in years like the one — especially in years like the one i— especially in years like the one i lost when we had so many new voters _ one i lost when we had so many new voters coming to a district that— new voters coming to a district that i_ new voters coming to a district that i know my opponent had ever— that i know my opponent had ever represented before, but then— ever represented before, but then there are districts, those swing — then there are districts, those swing districts, competitive districts— swing districts, competitive districts that are going to decide _ districts that are going to decide who wins the house, and the key— decide who wins the house, and the key data point in those districts— the key data point in those districts is how many new voters _ districts is how many new voters that didn't vote in the midterms are going to come out these _ midterms are going to come out these newly drawn districts. everybody's district in the house _ everybody's district in the house got redrawn after the census _ house got redrawn after the census and son, as mark said, getting — census and son, as mark said, getting redrawn again. are those _ getting redrawn again. are those low propensity high intensity trump voters going to vote _ intensity trump voters going to vote republican up and down the ticket? _ vote republican up and down the ticket? will they go out in the sticks— ticket? will they go out in the sticks for— ticket? will they go out in the sticks for the republican candidate in the general? if they— candidate in the general? if they are, _ candidate in the general? if they are, that gives us a better— they are, that gives us a better chance of keeping the house. — better chance of keeping the house, but primary wise, if there — house, but primary wise, if there is— house, but primary wise, if there is no— house, but primary wise, if there is no race, if there is no race, _
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there is no race, if there is no race, donald trump... if there — no race, donald trump... if there is— no race, donald trump... if there is no— no race, donald trump... if there is no presidential race when — there is no presidential race when the _ there is no presidential race when the primary comes around in a state — when the primary comes around in a state like louisiana, the donald — in a state like louisiana, the donald trump endorsement matters _ donald trump endorsement matters more than you could ever— matters more than you could ever spend on advertising, etc. it ever spend on advertising, etc. it is _ ever spend on advertising, etc. it is a _ ever spend on advertising, etc. it is a phenomenon we may not understand but it is there. stephanie, how can democrats combat that or what is the plan for this year with the house in the senate as well as the presidency? i the senate as well as the presidency?— the senate as well as the residen ? ., presidency? i really hope that when i presidency? i really hope that when i look — presidency? i really hope that when i look at _ presidency? i really hope that when i look at these - presidency? i really hope that when i look at these races - presidency? i really hope that| when i look at these races and they— when i look at these races and they are — when i look at these races and they are so _ when i look at these races and they are so divisive _ when i look at these races and they are so divisive and - when i look at these races and they are so divisive and therel they are so divisive and there are so— they are so divisive and there are so many— they are so divisive and there are so many of— they are so divisive and there are so many of these - they are so divisive and there are so many of these litmusi are so many of these litmus test — are so many of these litmus test issues _ are so many of these litmus test issues for— are so many of these litmus test issues for democrats, i test issues for democrats, republicans, _ test issues for democrats, republicans, i— test issues for democrats, republicans, i am - test issues for democrats, i republicans, i am someone test issues for democrats, - republicans, i am someone who served _ republicans, i am someone who served in— republicans, i am someone who served in office _ republicans, i am someone who served in office for _ republicans, i am someone who served in office for over- republicans, i am someone who served in office for over 20 - served in office for over 20 years — served in office for over 20 years and _ served in office for over 20 years and i— served in office for over 20 years and i did _ served in office for over 20 years and i did it— served in office for over 20 years and i did it because ij years and i did it because i love — years and i did it because i love service, _ years and i did it because i love service, i— years and i did it because i love service, i love - years and i did it because i love service, i love to - love service, i love to make things— love service, i love to make things better— love service, i love to make things better for— love service, i love to make things better for my- love service, i love to make - things better for my community will stop— things better for my community will stop i— things better for my community will stop i am _ things better for my community will stop i am so— things better for my community will stop i am so hopeful- things better for my community will stop i am so hopeful that i will stop i am so hopeful that we can— will stop i am so hopeful that we can get— will stop i am so hopeful that we can get to _ will stop i am so hopeful that we can get to a _ will stop i am so hopeful that we can get to a place - will stop i am so hopeful that i we can get to a place where we can look— we can get to a place where we can look for— we can get to a place where we can look for issues _ we can get to a place where we can look for issues where - can look for issues where we have — can look for issues where we have common _ can look for issues where we have common ground. - can look for issues where we| have common ground. issues can look for issues where we - have common ground. issues like housing — have common ground. issues like housing. democrats _ have common ground. issues like housing. democrats and - housing. democrats and republicans _ housing. democrats and republicans face - housing. democrats and - republicans face challenges with housing. _ republicans face challenges with housing. is _ republicans face challenges with housing. is there - republicans face challenges with housing. is there a - republicans face challenges with housing. is there a way for us — with housing. is there a way for us to— with housing. is there a way for us to coalesce _ with housing. is there a way for us to coalesce around i with housing. is there a way for us to coalesce around ai with housing. is there a way. for us to coalesce around a way that— for us to coalesce around a way that we —
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for us to coalesce around a way that we can _ for us to coalesce around a way that we can do _ for us to coalesce around a way that we can do something - for us to coalesce around a way. that we can do something there? i that we can do something there? i am _ that we can do something there? i am optimistic— that we can do something there? i am optimistic that _ that we can do something there? i am optimistic that we _ that we can do something there? i am optimistic that we can - i am optimistic that we can even — i am optimistic that we can even do _ i am optimistic that we can even do something - i am optimistic that we can even do something when i i am optimistic that we can even do something when it i am optimistic that we can - even do something when it comes to immigration _ even do something when it comes to immigration. i— even do something when it comes to immigration. i feel— even do something when it comes to immigration. i feel like - to immigration. i feel like there _ to immigration. i feel like there is— to immigration. i feel like there is some _ to immigration. i feel like there is some common. to immigration. i feel like - there is some common ground there — there is some common ground there that is— there is some common ground there. that is what _ there is some common ground there. that is what i— there is some common ground there. that is what i would - there. that is what i would like — there. that is what i would like to _ there. that is what i would like to see _ there. that is what i would like to see. what - there. that is what i would like to see. what that - there. that is what i would like to see. what that we i there. that is what i would . like to see. what that we look for some _ like to see. what that we look for some issues— like to see. what that we look for some issues that - like to see. what that we look for some issues that bring - like to see. what that we look for some issues that bring usi for some issues that bring us together— for some issues that bring us together as _ for some issues that bring us together as a _ for some issues that bring us together as a country. - for some issues that bring us i together as a country. because a divided — together as a country. because a divided country— together as a country. because a divided country is— together as a country. because a divided country is a _ together as a country. because a divided country is a weak- a divided country is a weak country— a divided country is a weak country and _ a divided country is a weak country and i— a divided country is a weak country and i think- a divided country is a weak country and i think that - a divided country is a weak country and i think that is i country and i think that is missed _ country and i think that is missed onto _ country and i think that is missed onto many- country and i think that isj missed onto many people country and i think that is - missed onto many people that are soaking _ missed onto many people that are soaking these _ missed onto many people that are soaking these divides. - missed onto many people that are soaking these divides. del are soaking these divides. do ou are soaking these divides. you think that is going to be possible? consensus? any consensus? it feels like 30, 40 years ago, you think back to the days of o'neill and the deals across the aisle, but it seems even, and i know the democrats largely rescued if you like the speaker and avoided a shutdown earlier this year, but that was very rare and they have their own reasons for doing it. and they have their own reasons for doing it— for doing it. perception is reality and _ for doing it. perception is reality and the _ for doing it. perception is| reality and the perception for doing it. perception is i reality and the perception is on the major issues that the mayor just talked about there is a political divide. is that going to be bridged? no. most of what gets done in washington, most of the
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legislation that gets loaded on in house of representatives passesin in house of representatives passes in an overwhelming margin, a bipartisanship. but thatis margin, a bipartisanship. but that is not what covered because it is not the fight. the media companies, notjust saying the bbc, but everyone covers the fight. so the american people don't know the positive bipartisanship things that are happening and then unfortunately when bipartisanship is saving us from a government shutdown, which i will argue cost more taxpayer dollars to reopen and actually finding a solution, they will then... those who oppose that bipartisanship will then attack the republicans for bending to the democrats. that is a problem where we are at, and i think we need better coverage of the bipolar than successes.— successes. you have got a former president - successes. you have got a former president who - successes. you have got a former president who is i successes. you have got a| former president who is on successes. you have got a - former president who is on the cusp— former president who is on the cusp of— former president who is on the cusp of taking the republican
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nomination, who denied that he had lost — nomination, who denied that he had lost the election, refused to concede, and rallied republican house members behind him to— republican house members behind him to contest the results document that is not the first timem — document that is not the first timem it— document that is not the first time... it is not the first time _ time... it is not the first time the _ time... it is not the first time the democrats have done it. time the democrats have done it it _ time the democrats have done it it is — time the democrats have done it. it is true. but that doesn't _ it. it is true. but that doesn't change the point that this is— doesn't change the point that this is what partisanship gets in the — this is what partisanship gets in the way of straightforward decision—making that is based on facts — decision-making that is based on facts. �* ., ., on facts. and part of that i will also — on facts. and part of that i will also say, _ on facts. and part of that i will also say, i _ on facts. and part of that i will also say, i would - on facts. and part of that i will also say, i would also | will also say, i would also blame _ will also say, i would also blame gerrymandering. will also say, i would also blame gerrymandering on will also say, i would also - blame gerrymandering on both sides — blame gerrymandering on both sides both— blame gerrymandering on both sides. both parties— blame gerrymandering on both sides. both parties direct - blame gerrymandering on both sides. both parties direct and i sides. both parties direct and we accuse _ sides. both parties direct and we accuse each _ sides. both parties direct and we accuse each other - sides. both parties direct and we accuse each other of - sides. both parties direct and| we accuse each other of doing it because _ we accuse each other of doing it because many— we accuse each other of doing it because many districts, - it because many districts, about— it because many districts, about 30, _ it because many districts, about 30, 35— it because many districts, about 30, 35 districts - it because many districts, about 30, 35 districts are | about 30, 35 districts are truly— about 30, 35 districts are truly tossup _ about 30, 35 districts are truly tossup 's. _ about 30, 35 districts are truly tossup 's. everyone| about 30, 35 districts are - truly tossup 's. everyone else is more — truly tossup 's. everyone else is more worried _ truly tossup 's. everyone else is more worried about - truly tossup 's. everyone else is more worried about getting primarv _ is more worried about getting primary. we _ is more worried about getting primary. we are _ is more worried about getting primary. we are more - is more worried about getting| primary. we are more worried about— primary. we are more worried about getting _ primary. we are more worried about getting attacked - primary. we are more worried about getting attacked from i primary. we are more worried i about getting attacked from the ti l ht about getting attacked from the right or— about getting attacked from the right or left _ about getting attacked from the right or left than _ about getting attacked from the right or left than you _ about getting attacked from the right or left than you are - about getting attacked from the right or left than you are from i right or left than you are from winning — right or left than you are from winning against— right or left than you are from winning against the _ right or left than you are from winning against the democrat| right or left than you are from i winning against the democrat or republican— winning against the democrat or republican because _ winning against the democrat or republican because once - winning against the democrat or republican because once you i republican because once you have — republican because once you have won _ republican because once you have won your— republican because once you have won your primary - republican because once you have won your primary you i republican because once you i have won your primary you have basically — have won your primary you have basically won _ have won your primary you have basically won your _ have won your primary you have basically won your seat, - have won your primary you have basically won your seat, and - have won your primary you have basically won your seat, and sol basically won your seat, and so they— basically won your seat, and so they are — basically won your seat, and so they are more _ basically won your seat, and so they are more catering - basically won your seat, and so they are more catering to - basically won your seat, and so they are more catering to the i they are more catering to the outer— they are more catering to the outer wings _ they are more catering to the outer wings of— they are more catering to the outer wings of both _ they are more catering to the outer wings of both sides - they are more catering to the outer wings of both sides of i outer wings of both sides of their— outer wings of both sides of their parties— outer wings of both sides of their parties and _ outer wings of both sides of
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their parties and they - outer wings of both sides of their parties and they are i their parties and they are working _ their parties and they are working for— their parties and they are working for the _ their parties and they are working for the middle i their parties and they are working for the middle of their parties and they are - working for the middle of the solution _ working for the middle of the solution l— working for the middle of the solution. . , solution. i am still saying optimistic _ solution. i am still saying optimistic stop _ solution. i am still saying optimistic stop you - solution. i am still saying optimistic stop you love i optimistic stop you love optimism. optimistic stop you love optimism-— optimistic stop you love optimism. that and on an optimistic _ optimism. that and on an optimistic note. - optimism. that and on an optimistic note. not - optimism. that and on an optimistic note. not the i optimism. that and on an i optimistic note. not the end optimism. that and on an - optimistic note. not the end of the programme by the end of this segment. let's turn now to some other major news around the world. the israeli army says 24 of its soldiers were killed on monday, marking the deadliest day for its forces since their ground operation began. there's increasing pressure — internationally and from within israel — for the fighting to stop. this includes securing the release of the remaining 130 hostages held by hamas and allowing in more humanitarian aid into gaza. in this video from the israeli defence forces, you can see strikes on hamas targets in southern gaza. the israeli military says that its forces have completed the encirclement of the city of khan younis, which has been the focus of intense fighting in recent days. the hamas that health ministry in gaza also says that 195
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people have been killed in gaza in the last day. we have a moment before we go to an ad break, but what we haven't discussed is impacted that is going to potentially have on the election. joe biden's handling of it and how donald trump will handle it. that handling of it and how donald trump will handle it.- trump will handle it. that is absolutely _ trump will handle it. that is absolutely right. _ trump will handle it. that is absolutely right. so - trump will handle it. that is absolutely right. so far- trump will handle it. that is| absolutely right. so far what we know is this has been a much more unifying, united policy pearlescent —— position inside the republican party while it has been divisive inside the democratic party. had president one and vice president harris campaigning in virginia today, not in new hampshire, on the issue of abortion in women's reproductive rights. that event being repeatedly interrupted by the left flank protesting his support of israel. brute the left flank protesting his support of israel.— the left flank protesting his support of israel. we will get into that a — support of israel. we will get into that a little _ support of israel. we will get into that a little later - support of israel. we will get into that a little later on. - into that a little later on. stay with us here on bbc news. with storm isha still fresh in the memory, it has turned into yet another stormy night of weather across many parts of the uk. this time, the culprit is storm jocelyn. you can see this swirl of cloud
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here on our earlier satellite picture, the centre of a deep area of low pressure. this met office amber warning enforced to start wednesday across northern and western parts of scotland. gusts of up to 80mph in exposed spots, bringing the risk of damage and disruption. but a windy start to wednesday across just about all parts of the uk, so those winds could cause problems if you are travelling early in the morning. low pressure then crossing to the north of the uk. all these white lines, all these isobars still squeezing together as we head into wednesday morning proper. so gales to start the day across parts of scotland and northern england especially. those winds will slowly ease as the day wears on, but i think it will stay particularly gusty into the afternoon to the eastern side of the pennines. some showers around, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern england. many of those will fade. we will see a decent amount of sunshine through the day, albeit that sunshine turning quite hazy, with high clouds streaming in from the south. another mild day —
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9 to 12 degrees. now, during wednesday night, we will see this band of cloud and some outbreaks of patchy rain pushing northwards and eastwards. ahead of that, some clear spells. could see some fog patches developing across parts of northern england and scotland, at least for a time. and some murky conditions developing across parts of wales, southwest england, around coasts and hills, as the air turns increasingly mild. those are the temperatures to start thursday morning. so on thursday, this warm front pushing its way northwards. outbreaks of rain with that, and this feed of southwesterly winds behind a wedge of really very mild air indeed. so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing northeastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain. a few brighter glimpses, particularly to the east of high ground, anywhere where you get some shelter from the winds. but those temperatures easily 9 to 13 degrees. i wouldn't be at all surprised if somewhere got just a little bit higher than that. and then as we head towards friday and the weekend,
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it stays mostly mild, changeable, some rain at times, but not quite as windy. bye for now.
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hello, i'm sumi somaskanda. welcome back to our special coverage
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of the new hampshire primary where donald trump is projected to win the state's republican primary, further cementing himself as the party's frontrunner. tonight the former president wasjoined on stage by vivek ramaswamy and tim scott, further driving home the message that republicans are coalescing behind him as their presidential nominee. trump faced off against his last remaining rival, nikki haley. but, she vows to fight on, telling her supporters this race is farfrom over. the contest for the republican presidential campaign will now move on to south carolina, where haley is hoping to rally voters in her home state to slow down trump's momentum ahead of the year's largest primary contest, super tuesday. presidentjoe biden is projected to win the new hampshire democratic primary, but as a write—in candidate. biden skipped the contest after the democratic party changed its rules making south carolina the first nominating contest of 2024. but staying on the ground here in new hampshire — i spoke with our correspodent carl nasman, who has been talking to voters
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after his victory. very good to see you. looks like the weather has turned, sorry to catch you out in the snow. you have been able to get a feeling for how people have been feeling about the victory for donald trump. tell us more about what you have been hearing. this watch party tonight felt a lot like a victory party even before we got those initial projections, calling the race for donald trump. so many supporters coming here and it felt like a big victory party from the very beginning. everyone here coming to congratulate him. they got what they wanted, a great speech, big energetic speech on stage from donald trump and they got the results coming which are likely to show a fairly sizeable win in new hampshire for the former president. i spoke with many of his supporters and they came in saying they were cautious about nikki haley's chances in new hampshire but were confident in the victory.
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here is what a couple supporters told me. like trump says, always try to act like we're ten points down even if we are 50 points ahead. i had that mentality going into today. my mentality is the fact that he won, i don't care if it isjust by one point, a win is a win. cautiously optimistic. i know the haley campaign and trump's opponents . are pulling out all the stops i to stop him because he stands up to the ruling class. i know he was going to come out on top because there _ is such fierce loyalty. people filling up other venues, crawling over broken glass - to vote for the man. people ordinarily not - into politics that become fiercely loyal - to him overnight. i think it was notable seeing on stage donald trump making that victory speech flanked
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by a couple of former rivals. vivek ramaswamy and tim scott that only recently endorsed him. in a show of unity, what the former president likely trying to do is have this aura of inevitability and try to wrap this thing up as soon as possible. already potentially looking towards a general election, a rematch withjoe biden. critical words for the president on stage tonight. on the other sidejoe biden also seemingly already looking ahead to rematch with donald trump. it seems now although nikki haley said she wants to continue to south carolina at the very least, both sides here, the president, former president already looking ahead to a potential general election rematch in november. it does look like that. nikki haley, not too far from where we are, saying she is scrappy, a fighter, staying in this. looking at the numbers we are seeing, what does the path forward
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look like for her? the path forward gets a lot narrower. this is only two states, not talking about delegates because there are plenty of delegates still to be awarded. if you look at a state like new hampshire, this was expected to be maybe her best chance of defeating donald trump or coming in very close second. a state with around 40% independent voters. the kind of voters that tend to vote for nikki haley. and yet here she is looking at a potential double—digit defeat in the state. going ahead, what the haley campaign says is hang on, we have a chance, still very early, south carolina, potentially friendly territory for her. a former governor there although not polling particularly well. and on super tuesday what the campaign said is there are several states with similar situation to new hampshire where there are either open primaries or semi—open to help cast votes for nikki haley and we know she does well with moderate republicans and unaffiliated voters.
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that could be path for her. there is potential she could stick it out longer and see how some of these legal cases play out for donald trump. at the same time, it became harder and harder tojustify staying in a race where even in the state where you thought you might perform the best you still lose to what is looking like a juggernaut in the trump campaign. now the race goes on. thank you. on tuesday, a federal appeals court in washington said it will not take up an appeal by former president donald trump to reconsider a gag order that limits what he can say about the federal election interference case against him. the ruling potentially sets up a supreme court fight over the matter. for months, trump has been attempting to free himself from a limited order that prohibits him from making inflammatory statements targeting us special counsel jack smith, his staff, court personnel, and possible witnesses in the case. the ruling is the latest legal
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setback for the former president. trump will have to balance a busy legal calendar alongside a busy campaign trail schedule, as our helena humphrey explains. former president donald trump might be the front runner for the republican nomination but keepin the republican nomination but keep in mind he also has some considerable legal challenges. to remind you, currently facing some 91 criminal charges in four criminal cases. donald trump for his part has consistently denied all of those allegations. in some cases already pleaded not guilty. donald trump 's argument is that this is all a political witch—hunt designed to stop him from taking office once again. the department of justice for its part has been very clear in denying those allegations. even if we have seen these criminal charges and cases rally donald trump 's base, they did present some
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significant logistical challenges when it comes to running for the white house. here you can see chemo public index and key trump portrait as well. you go back to january, the washing case and the right over the 2020 election. over a week ago, the iowa caucus, donald trump for a hearing in the ejean carroll defamation case. fast forward to today, in hampshire primary, nevada republican primary a little later and much is where it starts to get really crucial because you have super tuesday with some 14 states going to the polls to choose their republican candidate. here at the stormy daniels payment trial, one of the first criminal cases that could actually move forward against donald trump before hop on his heels we get to the classified
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files trial and the republican convention on the 15th ofjuly. this tells us potentially donald trump could be convicted as he then goes on to become the nominee if that is the case or he will have seen one of these trials move forward in a significant way. then we get to august, the latest date by which georgia should hold that election loss. trial. and november, the moment where the eyes of the road around the united states. presidential election day. could be the case we have seen convicted of a crime winning the key to the white house? that is what the big question is. another legal issue to keep in mind right now, that is when it comes to the states of colorado, maine, the states of colorado, maine, the states of colorado, maine, the states have moved to check donald trump off the ballot. they cite what they call violations to the 14th amendment saying donald trump is an intellectualist and therefore he won't be eligible
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to hold office. important to point out donald trump has not been charged with being in interactionist. because of that, donald trump has taken the colorado case to the us supreme court. judges will pronounce on that and the hearings will start to ascertain whether he can be on the ballot. the big question is does it matter? does it matter in the eyes of voters, particularly would be republican voters. you can see from this poll, if trump is convicted, 62% still think he should go want to be the nominee contrasted with 32% who think that means that essentially would rule him out. what all of this is telling us as if donald trump goes on to have a strong victory in new hampshire and continues, that well try traditional campaign trail might look a lot different this time around. instead donald trump 's campaign might be playing out
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inside and outside of court rooms up and down the country and that goes to show quite how unprecedented once again displace shaping up to be. —— this race. that was helena humphrey. well we're still waiting for the rest of the results and the margins — but as it stands, with at least 52% of the votes counted, trump has a ten—point lead. that's all for now. over to you, caitriona. we will stay with those legal difficulties the former president is facing. 91 charges in total. and various other legal issues. joining me live is former trump white house lawyer ty cobb. thanks forjoining us on bbc news. are these legal cases actually beneficial to donald trump? we have seen over the past year is ratings go up more and more
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at times he appears in court. he has definitely benefited from some of the cases he used as political exercises by giving press conferences on courthouse steps in the morning and afternoon. he has got a lot of mileage out of that and shockingly people who 2.5 centuries ago wanted a president that was going to weed through character, encourage, now they are willing to tolerate a rapist and criminal. i don't quite get it. he has not been convicted of those things at this point so we cannot say that. we saw in the appalling coming out of new hampshire that voters have said regardless on how the criminal cases proceed, the majority of
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them would vote for him anyway. which of the cases he faces will cause some difficulty or are they simply not going to come to that point before the election date in november? there's really only one consequential case at this stage the game and that is trump 's refusal to permit a peaceful transfer of power as charged in the dc federal case headed byjack smith. the charged in the dc federal case headed by jack smith. the other jack smith case is equally powerful. thejudge in that case has sadly not moved the case has sadly not moved the case at all. now it is highly unlikely that whenever go to trial before the election. i do believe the dc case, federal case will go to trial before the election and i do believe trump will be convicted. he won't be jailed, though, if he is convicted. he will be able to stay at pending appeal, the appeal will still be standing. if he wins the presidency, you
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can have somebody in the justice department dismissed the case. in which case he is no longer injeopardy. the case. in which case he is no longer in jeopardy. which would lead to only two state creases, the new york crease which doesn't seem to be going anywhere and the georgia case which has its own set of problems based on prosecutor 's conduct. i think the only real case to focus on frankly is the jack smith case in the federal court in dc. jack smith case in the federal court in dc— court in dc. one of the other issues facing _ court in dc. one of the other issues facing the _ court in dc. one of the other issues facing the former - issues facing the former president is the states trying to have them removed from the ballot. the supreme court is going to take up the case in colorado when he has been removed from the primary ballot. how do you think the supreme court is going to approach that one? the supreme court could _ approach that one? the supreme court could go — approach that one? the supreme court could go nine-zero - approach that one? the supreme court could go nine-zero on - court could go nine—zero on that case in trump 's favour. under article three of the 14th amendment, the argument he
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could be removed is based on the assumption he has an officer of the united states who took an oath to support the constitution. the case law is quite to the contrary. first of all, trump did not take an oath to support the constitution, he took an article format oath preserve and defend the constitution. article two appointees, take an oath specifically to support the competition, that was administered by the president. as chiefjustice roberts noted ten years ago or 11 years ago in a supreme court case, officers in the united states are not elected by the people. that case is an easy case for the court to dispense with. sadly, it does not disqualify the former president but i don't think that would be a difficult case for the court. that would then make the other
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similar cases go away, since the supreme court has set that precedent?— the supreme court has set that precedent? that's correct. they would all fall— precedent? that's correct. they would all fall on _ precedent? that's correct. they would all fall on the _ precedent? that's correct. they would all fall on the same - would all fall on the same interpretation.— would all fall on the same interretation. , , interpretation. ty, the broader issue of states _ interpretation. ty, the broader issue of states actually - issue of states actually intervening in the process of democracy in that way — is it something that, from a legal perspective, is better left alone? or is that all part of the process to pick a president? i the process to pick a president?— the process to pick a president? the process to pick a resident? ~' , ., , president? i think the states have an important _ president? i think the states have an important role - president? i think the states have an important role in i have an important role in picking the president, and the supreme court has noted that, and the constitution makes that clear. it is the state selection of electors and the election of electors, and the electors who ultimately vote for the president. so they do have an important role, setting qualifications for electors and setting the rules behind what can be done at the polling places, how long they're open, where the precincts are. so there are a lot of — there's a big state role that shouldn't
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be administered by the federal government. but the federal government, at the end of the day, ultimately certifies the electoral process which was the proceeding that was underway on january 26 when the rioters at capitol hill interrupted it and trump let it go on for several hours without asking it should be shut down, and sent out a couple of critical tweets — at least one seriously critical tweet — of mike pence at the time, emboldening them. i think the federal interests and state interests are well laid down, and it's important that each unit do theirjob.— and it's important that each unit do theirjob. unit do their 'ob. ok. ty cobb, thanks for_ unit do theirjob. ok. ty cobb, thanks forjoining _ unit do theirjob. ok. ty cobb, thanks forjoining us _ unit do theirjob. ok. ty cobb, thanks forjoining us - - unit do theirjob. ok. ty cobb, thanks forjoining us - former| thanks forjoining us — former lawyer in the donald trump white house. our panel are still here with us. that is an issue throughout the
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campaign — whoever the voters like or dislike, the former president is facing various legal charges and investigations into january 6. i don't know if you were watching me pick myjaw up off the floor, but it's stit quite jarring to hear a former white house counsel talk about the counsel and his administration who served that way. i think that shows you among legal scholars and among scholars of the constitution, people who care about democratic governance, even people who've been aligned with republicans — the deep feelings of anger and frustration and worry and concern about a second donald trump term. but how does that translate politically? ty cobb himself will tell you, the legal jeopardy himself will tell you, the legaljeopardy he himself will tell you, the legal jeopardy he faces himself will tell you, the legaljeopardy he faces has only emboldened him. is legaljeopardy he faces has only emboldened him. is that a concern for _ only emboldened him. is that a concern for the _ only emboldened him. is that a concern for the republican - concern for the republican party if donald trump is the nominee and it gets to be
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trump—biden in november and he loses, and again doesn't accept the outcome of the election? we have to the outcome of the election? - have to make sure the election is administered fairly, administered by the laws passed by the states. and i've been doing this for a very long time — you win a few, you lose a few. you have to move on. i think what we have to understand too — this is where a lot of folks misinterpret what donald trump, in 2016, 2020, 2024 represent, is that people are tired of being told by washington — whether it's washington elected officials, whether it's washington media, washington pundits — who we are going to vote for and what we are allowed to vote for and what we are allowed to care about. we were lied to for 27 years by politicians of both political parties who said they would deal with this or that issue — it got you elected, got you into office, and they didn't do anything about it. it went to an outsider who said,
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"the heck with the system. we're going to get it done." i think they still, as they sit there and opine to say that they are so offended, they ignore that, if you really, truly respect democracy, then listen to the people who are voting with their votes on who they want to represent them. i'm interested in your thoughts on this. you were front and centre with the investigations into january 6. i centre with the investigations into january 65-— into january 6. i was on the floor on _ into january 6. i was on the floor on january _ into january 6. i was on the floor on january 6. - into january 6. i was on the floor on january 6. i - into january 6. i was on the floor on january 6. i voted l into january 6. i was on the i floor on january 6. i voted to floor on january 6. i voted to certify— floor on january 6. i voted to certify the _ floor on january 6. i voted to certify the election on january 6. certify the election on january 6 as— certify the election on january 6 as we _ certify the election on january 6. as we know, i'm not a big fan _ 6. as we know, i'm not a big fan of— 6. as we know, i'm not a big fan of president trump being our nominee. but the people have — our nominee. but the people have spoken. and as we move forward — have spoken. and as we move forward i_ have spoken. and as we move forward, i listen to what ty cobb— forward, i listen to what ty cobb said, and i agree — we have — cobb said, and i agree — we have really one case that's going _ have really one case that's going to _ have really one case that's going to make or break what happens _ going to make or break what happens to donald trump. in new york, _ happens to donald trump. in new york, you've got a new yorkjum complaining that a judge
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attacks someone — stop that stuff — attacks someone — stop that stuff. that makes donald trump a martyr~ — stuff. that makes donald trump a martyr. when you look at this case: _ a martyr. when you look at this case, you — a martyr. when you look at this case, you have to take into consideration that donald trump exercised — consideration that donald trump exercised his free speech as the president of the united states. _ the president of the united states, said some stuff that i do believe instigated rioters, i do believe instigated rioters, i do — do believe instigated rioters, i do believe that. but it's a very— i do believe that. but it's a very dangerous spot for us to be in — very dangerous spot for us to be in in — very dangerous spot for us to be in in this country to hold every— be in in this country to hold every politician accountable what — every politician accountable what they say, and then somebody else uses it as incentive to commit a crime. look, — incentive to commit a crime. look, i— incentive to commit a crime. look, i got— incentive to commit a crime. look, i got shot at by a crazed gunman~ — look, i got shot at by a crazed gunman~ i_ look, i got shot at by a crazed gunman. i watched steve scalise almost _ gunman. i watched steve scalise almost die, because republicans wanted _ almost die, because republicans wanted to fix a broken health care — wanted to fix a broken health care system. if we are going to hold _ care system. if we are going to hold politicians accountable — even — hold politicians accountable — even if— hold politicians accountable — even if it's— hold politicians accountable — even if it's donald trump, as much — even if it's donald trump, as much as— even if it's donald trump, as much as i_ even if it's donald trump, as much as i disagree with him — is free — much as i disagree with him — is free speech free speech when you didn't — is free speech free speech when you didn't actually commit the crime, — you didn't actually commit the crime, or— you didn't actually commit the
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crime, or not? that's something long-term — crime, or not? that's something long—term that can be very detrimental. long-term that can be very detrimental.— long-term that can be very detrimental. ,, , ., �* detrimental. stephanie, you're an attorney _ detrimental. stephanie, you're an attorney and _ detrimental. stephanie, you're an attorney and had _ detrimental. stephanie, you're| an attorney and had experience in baltimore. your views? i in baltimore. yourviews? i wish we could answer the question that you asked. should we be concerned if donald trump is re—elected that we'll have another — or if he's not — that we could have anotherjanuary 6? to me, we should just answer that question. the answer is — yes, we should be concerned. we should be concerned because he is continuing with that rhetoric. we should be concerned because he's saying crazy things like he'll be a dictator, you know, for one day. like, we have a lot to be concerned about with our democracy. because your experience was horrific — i'm not discounting it — but if we keep doing this, if we're not willing to call it out because it happened by someone from your own party, that's the issue. i your own party, that's the issue. . ., ., issue. icalled it out. i called _ issue. icalled it out. i called it— issue. i called it out. i called it out _ issue. i called it out. i called it out on - issue. i called it out. i called it out on both i issue. icalled it out. i-
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called it out on both sides. democrats never call it out... you're — democrats never call it out... you're concerned about what happened... you're concerned about what happened - -_ you're concerned about what hauened... �* . happened... i'm concerned about whomever _ happened... i'm concerned about whomever wins _ happened... i'm concerned about whomever wins this _ happened... i'm concerned about whomever wins this election. - whomever wins this election. i'm concerned — we're gonna start— i'm concerned — we're gonna start to — i'm concerned — we're gonna start to see, now that we see the nominations are donald trump _ the nominations are donald trump and joe biden — you're going — trump and joe biden — you're going to _ trump and joe biden — you're going to see every major news media — going to see every major news media outlet ask donald trump and republican members of congress, "are you going to accept — congress, "are you going to accept the certification? are you going to not challenge the electoral count?" not a single media — electoral count?" not a single media outlet is going to ask joe biden or a democratic member — who have a history of objecting. — member — who have a history of objecting, using the process... you _ objecting, using the process... you can't — objecting, using the process... you can't say that, rodney. speaking from bbc news' perspective, you can't say that... i perspective, you can't say that... ., , perspective, you can't say that... .,, ,, perspective, you can't say that... ,., that... i hope you prove me wronu. that... i hope you prove me wrong- happy _ that... i hope you prove me wrong. happy to. _ that... i hope you prove me wrong. happy to. i- that... i hope you prove me wrong. happy to. i really i that... i hope you prove me| wrong. happy to. i really do. but i wrong. happy to. i really do. but ljust_ wrong. happy to. i really do. but ijust don't _ wrong. happy to. i really do. but i just don't believe - wrong. happy to. i really do. but ijust don't believe it. i i but ijust don't believe it. i certainly— but ijust don't believe it. i certainly hope it happens. the first certainly hope it happens. tie: first amendment certainly hope it happens. i'ie: first amendment is certainly hope it happens. iie: first amendment is foundational to what it means to be american and the freedoms that you have as americans. you have to be very careful about how you curb it and how you corp it. you also have to be very careful about how you use it, especially when you're in power, from either party. and
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there's a reason why we've never really faced a test quite like this before. but it's coming at a time when technology and some of the things we've been talking about earlier, like ai, like fears about china, like fears about technology, are all running up against the first amendment, and so is american politics. and ijust think it's a real — all of this is a threat. it’s all of this is a threat. it's auoin all of this is a threat. it's going to _ all of this is a threat. it's going to be _ all of this is a threat. it's going to be a _ all of this is a threat. it's going to be a test - all of this is a threat. it's going to be a test for - all of this is a threat. it's going to be a test for a lot of people _ going to be a test for a lot of people. what we don't remember is that— people. what we don't remember is that there were violent, destructive protests on inauguration day 20 january 2017 _ inauguration day 20 january 2017 when donald trump took office — 2017 when donald trump took office it — 2017 when donald trump took office. it wasn't republicans — it was— office. it wasn't republicans — it was the _ office. it wasn't republicans — it was the radical left. and yet they— it was the radical left. and yet they were justified, because it's donald trump they were _ because it's donald trump they were protesting. when we start doing _ were protesting. when we start doing this, we start losing ourselves, and that's where we are _ ourselves, and that's where we are and. — ourselves, and that's where we are. and, yeah, i'm not comparing one... are. and, yeah, i'm not comparing one. . .- are. and, yeah, i'm not comparing one... are. and, yeah, i'm not comarin: one... �* comparing one... are you saying that was wrong? _ comparing one... are you saying that was wrong? it's _ comparing one... are you saying that was wrong? it's ok - comparing one... are you saying that was wrong? it's ok to - comparing one... are you saying that was wrong? it's ok to say i that was wrong? it's ok to say that was wrong? it's ok to say that january — that was wrong? it's ok to say that january 6 _ that was wrong? it's ok to say that january 6 was _ that was wrong? it's ok to say that january 6 was wrong. - that was wrong? it's ok to say that january 6 was wrong. but| that january 6 was wrong. but ou've that january 6 was wrong. but you've got — that january 6 was wrong. but you've got to _ that january 6 was wrong. but you've got to do _ that january 6 was wrong. you've got to do both. you that january 6 was wrong.- you've got to do both. you have to do— you've got to do both. you have to do both _
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you've got to do both. you have to do both-— to do both. that's the question - can you _ to do both. that's the question - can you do — to do both. that's the question - can you do both? _ to do both. that's the question - can you do both? what - to do both. that's the question - can you do both? what do i to do both. that's the questionl - can you do both? what do you — can you do both? what do you say about— — can you do both? what do you say about january _ — can you do both? what do you say about january 6, _ — can you do both? what do you say about january 6, then? - — can you do both? what do you say about january 6, then? that say about january 6, then? that it was - that _ say about january 6, then? that it was - that everybody - say about january 6, then? it was — that everybody who violated _ it was — that everybody who violated the police lines, crossed _ violated the police lines, crossed the police lines into the capitol, should be held accountable according to the law — accountable according to the law. ,, ., , , accountable according to the law. should they be pardoned? that would _ law. should they be pardoned? that would - — law. should they be pardoned? that would - well, _ law. should they be pardoned? that would - well, that's - law. should they be pardoned? that would - well, that's up i that would — well, that's up tom — that would - well, that's up to... ., ., ,., that would - well, that's up to... ., ., , to... no, do you believe whether— to... no, do you believe whether they _ to... no, do you believe whether they should - to... no, do you believe whether they should be | whether they should be pardoned? _ whether they should be pardoned?— whether they should be pardoned? whether they should be ardoned? �* ., ., ., pardoned? i'm not going to get into whether _ pardoned? i'm not going to get into whether they _ pardoned? i'm not going to get into whether they should - pardoned? i'm not going to get into whether they should bored pardoned. into whether they should bored ardoned. . �* , into whether they should bored ardoned. ., �*, , .,, pardoned. that's the problem. not our pardoned. that's the problem. not your decision, _ pardoned. that's the problem. not your decision, your - not your decision, your opinion? _ not your decision, your opinion? it's— not your decision, your opinion? it's the - not your decision, your opinion? it's the fact i not your decision, your. opinion? it's the fact that not your decision, your- opinion? it's the fact that we have — opinion? it's the fact that we have to — opinion? it's the fact that we have to be _ opinion? it's the fact that we have to be able _ opinion? it's the fact that we have to be able to _ opinion? it's the fact that we have to be able to stand - opinion? it's the fact that we have to be able to stand on i have to be able to stand on what — have to be able to stand on what is _ have to be able to stand on what is right, _ have to be able to stand on what is right, not— have to be able to stand on what is right, not what- have to be able to stand on what is right, not what is. what is right, not what is political _ what is right, not what is political. and _ what is right, not what is political. and when - what is right, not what is political. and when you i what is right, not what is- political. and when you can't say that _ political. and when you can't say that they _ political. and when you can't say that they shouldn't - political. and when you can't say that they shouldn't be i say that they shouldn't be pardoned _ say that they shouldn't be pardoned, that's- say that they shouldn't be pardoned, that's an - say that they shouldn't be | pardoned, that's an issue. say that they shouldn't be - pardoned, that's an issue. no. pardoned, that's an issue. no, i also believe _ pardoned, that's an issue. no, i also believe the _ pardoned, that's an issue.- i also believe the constitution gives— i also believe the constitution gives the power of a governor or a _ gives the power of a governor or a president to pardon. they may— or a president to pardon. they may exercise that power. i may not agree — may exercise that power. i may not agree with it. think of all the people who had very questionable things pardoned from — questionable things pardoned from bill clinton, from barack
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0bama — from bill clinton, from barack obama and others. the question stephanie's _ obama and others. the question stephanie's raising, _ obama and others. the question stephanie's raising, mark- obama and others. the question stephanie's raising, mark - - obama and others. the question stephanie's raising, mark - if. stephanie's raising, mark — if — there are a lot of "if"s here — if donald trump's the nominee, if he's elected and, if he pardons folks from january 6, do you think that would be a good idea? you january 6, do you think that would be a good idea? you know, if it's going _ would be a good idea? you know, if it's going to _ would be a good idea? you know, if it's going to bring _ would be a good idea? you know, if it's going to bring the _ if it's going to bring the country— if it's going to bring the country together, i think some of these — country together, i think some of these sentences have been excessive and would probably go way beyond what other people would — way beyond what other people would be charged with for similar— would be charged with for similar crimes, would be charged with for similarcrimes, i would be charged with for similar crimes, i think you have — similar crimes, i think you have to _ similar crimes, i think you have to look at it.- similar crimes, i think you have to look at it. we'll have to leave _ have to look at it. we'll have to leave it — have to look at it. we'll have to leave it there _ have to look at it. we'll have to leave it there for - have to look at it. we'll have to leave it there for now, - to leave it there for now, folks. we're out of time. massive thanks to you all for being here. thank you, caitriona. looking at the latest numbers coming in — donald trump now leading by ten points.
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with storm isha still fresh in the memory, it has turned into yet another stormy night of weather across many parts of the uk. this time, the culprit is storm jocelyn. you can see this swirl of cloud here on our earlier satellite picture, the centre of a deep area of low pressure. this met office amber warning enforced to start wednesday across northern and western parts of scotland. gusts of up to 80mph in exposed spots, bringing the risk of damage and disruption. but a windy start to wednesday across just about all parts of the uk, so those winds could cause problems if you are travelling early in the morning. low pressure then crossing to the north of the uk. all these white lines, all these isobars still squeezing together as we head into wednesday morning proper. so gales to start the day across parts of scotland and northern england especially. those winds will slowly ease as the day wears on, but i think it will stay particularly gusty into the afternoon to the eastern side of the pennines. some showers around, particularly across scotland, northern ireland, northern england. many of those will fade. we will see a decent amount
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of sunshine through the day, albeit that sunshine turning quite hazy, with high clouds streaming in from the south. another mild day — 9 to 12 degrees. now, during wednesday night, we will see this band of cloud and some outbreaks of patchy rain pushing northwards and eastwards. ahead of that, some clear spells. could see some fog patches developing across parts of northern england and scotland, at least for a time. and some murky conditions developing across parts of wales, southwest england, around coasts and hills, as the air turns increasingly mild. those are the temperatures to start thursday morning. so on thursday, this warm front pushing its way northwards. outbreaks of rain with that, and this feed of southwesterly winds behind a wedge of really very mild air indeed. so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing northeastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain. a few brighter glimpses, so a pretty mild feeling day on thursday, but with extensive cloud cover. some outbreaks of rain pushing northeastward, briefly some snow over high ground in scotland, but that won't last long, should mostly turn back to rain.
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a few brighter glimpses, particularly to the east of high ground, anywhere where you get some shelter from the winds. but those temperatures easily 9 to 13 degrees. i wouldn't be at all surprised if somewhere got just a little bit higher than that. and then as we head towards friday and the weekend, it stays mostly mild, changeable, some rain at times, but not quite as windy. bye for now.
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live from london. this is bbc news. former us president donald trump wins the primary contest in new hampshire — but his rival, nikki hailey says she's still in the race.
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what does the future hold for royal mail? its regulator is due to set out options this morning for changing the way the postal service operates. and coming up in business the cost to build britain's next nuclear power plant soars and it won't start delivering electricity until at least 2029. hello, i'm sally bundock. we have a very busy programme today. let's start in the us where donald trump is predicted to have won the new hampshire republican primaries
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