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charge of the club. the 56—year—old will continue to oversee the team's remaining games of the season — with liverpool currently sitting top of the table, and having secured their spot in the league cup final this week. klopp has brought six major trophies to the club in his time — including a first league title for 30 years back in 2020 and the champions league the season before. to be manager of liverpool fc is a fairy tale and a very difficult thing to plan, impossible to plan and difficult to reach, but it is only possible if you are very busy and 100,000% committed to everything you do, you dedicate your whole life to it. that's what i did and i came here as i said on the first day as a normal guy. i am still a normal guy,
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ijust don't live a normal life normal guy. i am still a normal guy, i just don't live a normal life for too long now. i don't want to wait until i am too old for having a normal life and i need at least to give it a try at one point to see how it is, will i miss it? i never had this really before, so i need to give it a try and it is the right moment for me and i think it is the right moment i think as well for the club because i can do thejob next year as i did club because i can do thejob next yearas i did it club because i can do thejob next year as i did it before so i am not the right one any more. joining me now is former premier league footballer michael brown who now covers the premier league for the bbc, to talk more on this big story. what is your reaction to this? i think it was a big shock. we brought here other things and now everybody
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is reacting to such huge news for such a football club. it has been incredible what he has done, what he's achieved with liverpool, the way he has gone about his job, the challenges with other football teams right throughout his reign, and that passion as we see there that he has got with those reporters. he has to change all of liverpool's setup, the way they play, recruitment, so we have gone through that as well to bring themselves to the back of the premier league and what is exceptional is that he has done that. it is strange timing that they have come to the end of the transfer window, not next week as noah started to gather. the reason they have come out today and said that. it will be a big shock to these liverpool supporters. liverpool currently tap — liverpool supporters. liverpool currently top of _ liverpool supporters. liverpool currently top of the _ liverpool supporters. liverpool currently top of the league, - liverpool supporters. liverpool | currently top of the league, into the league cup final, doing very well. i the league cup final, doing very well. , ., , , ., ~ ., well. i remember to speaking to somebody _ well. i remember to speaking to somebody manchester - well. i remember to speaking to somebody manchester city - well. i remember to speaking to i somebody manchester city earlier well. i remember to speaking to - somebody manchester city earlier on and they said i think liverpool are
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the ones to watch, they are just sneaking up on her right they were when they set it to me. the way they have gone about it. this code seem stronger, doesn't it? we have since changes in the style that they have played, robertson lost. trent going into that midfield area. he has had the transition. you see the sadness on his face. he is saying, i can't go any longer. i want to have a normal life, i want a bit of time out. i think those liverpool supporters will always say pretty has done, he is a legend at the football club. 8.5 has done, he is a legend at the football club.— football club. 8.5 years at the club, a football club. 8.5 years at the club. a long — football club. 8.5 years at the club, a long stint. _ football club. 8.5 years at the club, a long stint. what - football club. 8.5 years at the club, a long stint. what a - football club. 8.5 years at the - club, a long stint. what a liverpool do next? this— club, a long stint. what a liverpool do next? this is— club, a long stint. what a liverpool do next? this is a _ club, a long stint. what a liverpool do next? this is a man _ club, a long stint. what a liverpool do next? this is a man so - club, a long stint. what a liverpool i do next? this is a man so associated with the club, what next for them? i think when you start to listen to your statement when he said in november they started to have those
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discussions. that is what people don't realise clock, how much they forecast the transfers, how they set a target about who they were going gets. how do they go and do that? the football club can start prepping, look for the next person and see their targets. it is a sad day, although i've got ultimate respect. and finally, on a day of shocks, here's one from the australian open first — and novak djokovic has been beaten for the first time at the tournament since 2018. jannik sinner ended the world number one's incredible run to reach his first grand slam final. sinner raced into a two sets to love lead for the loss ofjust three games and although djokovic rallied to talke the third, the serb had no match for the italian in the fourth who took it 6—3, ending djokovic's 33—match winning streak at melbourne park and sealing his place in sunday's final.
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first i want to congratulate him for playing a great match, and a great tournament so far, he is deservedly in the finals. he outplayed me completely today. i guess this is one of the worst grand slam matches i've ever played, at that i remember. not a very pleasant feeling playing this way. so, shock for him and also a shock for liverpool football fans as jurgen klopp announces he is leaving. you're watching bbc news. we're expecting an initial ruling in the coming moments by the international court ofjustice the un's highest court in a genocide case which has been brought against israel.
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these are live pictures from the hague. there are 17 judges, these are live pictures from the hague. there are i7judges, 15 permanentjudges, plus one from south africa and one from israel. the case was brought by south africa. it is an initial ruling but if the judges believe there is a case to answer, they could demand israel halts its military operations in gaza and allows in more un humanitarian aid. israel has challenged the genocide accusation at the court in the hague. it says it is acting in self defence following the hamas attacks on israel of october seventh. there's also no guarantee israel would necessarily abide by the icj's findings. south africa's foreign minister, naledi pandor, says her government is hopeful the court ruling will have an impact. we have always approached this case in a positive spirit, but our core purpose was really that it is vital to highlight the plight of the innocent in palestine and to also alert the
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international community to the great harm that is being done to the people of palestine, to public institutions and to the general order in that area. and also draw attention to the lack ofjustice and freedom over many, many decades, much of which has been ignored by the world, so today, i think, the palestinian issue is front and centre of the world and that is a very important achievement through this case brought by south africa. these are live pictures from the international court of jugs these are live pictures from the international court ofjugs —— international court ofjugs —— international court ofjustice at the hague. i'mjoined by international court ofjustice at the hague. i'm joined byjeremy
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bowen in the studio. talk us through this ruling and the significance of it. it this ruling and the significance of it. , ,., ., , this ruling and the significance of it. ._ ._ it. it is potentially really significant _ it. it is potentially really significant because - it. it is potentially really significant because the i it. it is potentially really - significant because the overall ruling might take years to emerge from all of this, but these interim measures, starting with a call for the suspension of military operations and there are eight others that the south africans have asked for, that is something that, while they are not enforceable, they carry a lot of moral weight, and thatis carry a lot of moral weight, and that is something which israel has recognised, not least because rather than simplyjust dismissing this and saying this is all part of the un conspiracy against israel, they often say things like that, when they had the hearing, a couple of daysin they had the hearing, a couple of days in the court a couple of weeks ago, they sent over a top legal team. they are taking it really seriously because they realise that this is something that they do not want to lose. it’s this is something that they do not want to lose-—
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want to lose. it's a very specific accusation. _ want to lose. it's a very specific accusation, genocide. - want to lose. it's a very specific accusation, genocide. this - want to lose. it's a very specific accusation, genocide. this is i want to lose. it's a very specific accusation, genocide. this is a | accusation, genocide. this is a specific term. what is south africa's arguments?- specific term. what is south africa's arguments? specific term. what is south africa's ara uments? , . , africa's arguments? they have put in an 84 -a~e africa's arguments? they have put in an 84 page quite _ africa's arguments? they have put in an 84 page quite complex _ africa's arguments? they have put in an 84 page quite complex legal- an 84 page quite complex legal argument, essentially arguing that there was a case to accuse israel of genocide and what is important to understand about this, i can read out the coach from the relevant bits of law, the proof of genocide is the intent to destroy in whole or part and national ethnical racial or religious group as such. so that doesn't mean heavy shelling, tank fire, the killing of thousands of civilians for what israel has said is our very good military reasons, and they are claiming they are operating within the laws of war. evenif operating within the laws of war. even if they are not operating within the rules of law, and the un and gaza has said things like
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collective punishment, not discriminating between civilian and military targets is a violation of the laws of war and seems to be evidence to back that up, it still isn't genocide. genocide is very specific and it is a very high bar legally for that case to be proven, not least that is why the whole process will take years. in the last few moments we have heard comments from lord cameron. let's have a listen to what he had to say. first of all if we _ listen to what he had to say. first of all if we wanted _ listen to what he had to say. first of all if we wanted two _ listen to what he had to say. first of all if we wanted two state solution, _ of all if we wanted two state solution, that is what i want, it will be — solution, that is what i want, it will be essential that the people who launch the october to seventh massacres — who launch the october to seventh massacres are going to have to leave gaza _ massacres are going to have to leave gaza we _ massacres are going to have to leave gaza. we will never get a two state solution _ gaza. we will never get a two state solution if — gaza. we will never get a two state solution if high masts are still in gaza _ solution if high masts are still in gaza with — solution if high masts are still in gaza with the ability to launch attacks — gaza with the ability to launch attacks on israel. that is why britain — attacks on israel. that is why britain says let's have to pose immediately, let's get to that
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ceasefire, let's see the peace deal. as for— ceasefire, let's see the peace deal. as for the _ ceasefire, let's see the peace deal. as for the international court of justice — as for the international court of justice it— as for the international court of justice it will make its report later— justice it will make its report later and _ justice it will make its report later and we will look at back carefully. _ later and we will look at back carefully, but what i would say about — carefully, but what i would say about the _ carefully, but what i would say about the south african action as i don't _ about the south african action as i don't think— about the south african action as i don't think it is helpful in terms of trying — don't think it is helpful in terms of trying to bring about the pause in fighting that we need to sustainable ceasefire that we need. that needs to be agreed by israel, by high _ that needs to be agreed by israel, by high masts, that needs to start i’ilht by high masts, that needs to start right away — by high masts, that needs to start riaht awa . ., ., ., right away. lord cam and their questioning — right away. lord cam and their questioning whether _ right away. lord cam and their questioning whether this - right away. lord cam and their questioning whether this will i right away. lord cam and their - questioning whether this will bring a pause in fighting. what has israel said? they have been vociferous in their denunciation of these claims saying it is a libel, that it is completely wrong that it shouldn't be happening that there is a dreadful moral heart being given to them because let's not forget the law of genocide and
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the genocide conventions and international humanitarian law around that followed the nazi holocaust, 6 million dues killed, so they are saying how dare you accuse us of something like this, we would never do it. the other point of view that south africans have and they are long—standing friends of the palestinians is that whatever the history have to look at what is going on right now as i said before what is very important to understand is that just what is very important to understand is thatjust being guilty of war crimes does not make estate guilty of genocide. neither case has been proven, but there accusations about war crimes and genocide is something else, but what will happen this morning is that the justices there are going to say whether or not these interim measures need to be taken, and for them to grant that they basically have to agree that there is a plausible case that south
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africa has argued.— africa has argued. south africa is not alone in _ africa has argued. south africa is not alone in its _ africa has argued. south africa is not alone in its argument - africa has argued. south africa is not alone in its argument and - africa has argued. south africa is not alone in its argument and it i not alone in its argument and it does have support from other countries. it does have support from other countries— does have support from other countries. ., , , ., , countries. it does. there is a big disari countries. it does. there is a big disparity between _ countries. it does. there is a big disparity between the _ countries. it does. there is a big disparity between the global- countries. it does. there is a big i disparity between the global south thinks about what is going on in gaza and what arab countries think and what western countries think. there is a very fundamental difference there and different parts of the world are represented on that panel of justices, of the world are represented on that panel ofjustices, although of panel of justices, although of course panel ofjustices, although of course the plan is that they go by the law, not by the beliefs of the countries that they come from. questions over whether israel will adhere to the court's ruling, but whether it does not it does put added pressure on israel's allies. it does. if the un's highest court has said for example, they might not, but if they have said is true you must immediately suspend your military and israel doesn't come i
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think they have already said they wouldn't, it is quite hard politically for the americans, the brits and others to say we agree with you israel, keep on fighting, because then those countries would effectively be defying the will of this court. to effectively be defying the will of this court. ., , w' effectively be defying the will of this court. ., , a , . this court. to stick with us. we have these _ this court. to stick with us. we have these live _ this court. to stick with us. we have these live pictures - this court. to stick with us. we have these live pictures which l this court. to stick with us. we i have these live pictures which we can see from the hague. this is the international court ofjustice, the united nations's highest court. 17 judges presiding over this case brought by south africa against israel as it continues its offensive in gaza. these are live pictures from the international court ofjustice in the hague where we are expecting to start imminently. this is a genocide
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case, which has been brought against israel by south africa. the justices will be convening shortly in the court and will be running later on today and whether it believes israel has potentially committed genocide. this is a provisional ruling i am joined in the studio byjeremy bowen. we really do stress provisional ruling. what exactly does that mean? it provisional ruling. what exactly does that mean?— provisional ruling. what exactly does that mean? it means that they are auoin does that mean? it means that they are going to — does that mean? it means that they are going to talk— does that mean? it means that they are going to talk about _ does that mean? it means that they are going to talk about this - does that mean? it means that they are going to talk about this case, i are going to talk about this case, they decide to hear it, through the next couple of years perhaps. but under the way that they operate, they can mandate that there are some immediate measures that could be taken, provisional measures as they are known, and that starts with the suspension of military operations in and around gaza and as well allow
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