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, withdrew withdrew its telaviv. sorry, israelwithdrew its ambassadorfrom telaviv. sorry, israelwithdrew its ambassador from pretoria immediately afterwards _ ambassador from pretoria immediately afterwards. then we have the national _ afterwards. then we have the national assembly of south africa voting _ national assembly of south africa voting to — national assembly of south africa voting to suspend all diplomatic relations— voting to suspend all diplomatic relations with israel, but the government has not yet responded to that. government has not yet responded to that a— government has not yet responded to that a big _ government has not yet responded to that. a big question is where the relationship between the two countries go from now but south africa _ countries go from now but south africa will— countries go from now but south africa will see this as a victory for them, _ africa will see this as a victory for them, that they took a lead, that they— for them, that they took a lead, that they brought the case, and that they have _ that they brought the case, and that they have been vindicated. daniel, we will leave it there with you for now. thank you very much. these are live pictures from the hague that you can see on your scene now. we've seen groups of people waving palestinian flags. we have also seen groups of people wearing, waving the israeli flag, this is the international court ofjustice, the un's top court, gives its
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provisional ruling on a case against israel, a case of genocide, the judge in the court did a super millinery rulings. i think we might now be able to take a little listen to what the judge had to say earlier. at to what the “udge had to say earlier. �* , , , . earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings. _ earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings. the — earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings, the court _ earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings, the court is _ earlier. at the present stage in the proceedings, the court is not - proceedings, the court is not required to ascertain whether any violations of israel's obligations under the genocide convention have occurred. such a finding could only be made by the court at the stage of the examination of the merits of the present case. at this age are making order on the request for an indication of provisional measures, the court's task is to establish whether the acts and omissions complained of by the applicant appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the genocide convention. in the court's view, at least some of the acts and
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omissions alleged by south africa have been committed by israel in gaza appear to be capable of falling within the provisions of the convention. in light of the following, the court concludes that prima facie, it has jurisdiction pursuant to article nine of the convention to entertain the case. given this conclusion, the court considers that it cannot proceed to israel's replaced the case to be removed. 50 israel's replaced the case to be removed. . , israel's replaced the case to be removed-— removed. so that is the legal mechanics — removed. so that is the legal mechanics there _ removed. so that is the legal mechanics there about - removed. so that is the legal mechanics there about why l removed. so that is the legal. mechanics there about why the removed. so that is the legal- mechanics there about why the court has ruled that it can intervene in the case. the court also ordered israel to take measures to punish direct incitement of genocide in its war on gaza. the direct incitement of genocide in its war on gaza-— war on gaza. the court considers that river guide _ war on gaza. the court considers that river guide to _ war on gaza. the court considers that river guide to the _ war on gaza. the court considers that river guide to the present i that river guide to the present situation, israel must in accordance with its obligations under the genocide convention, in relation to palestinian in gaza, take all measures within its power to prevent
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the commission of all acts within the commission of all acts within the scope of article two of the convention in particular, a, killing groups of members, be causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group, see, deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part and d, imposing measures intending to prevent first within the group. the court recalls that these act for within the scope of the article two of the convention, when they are committed with intent to destroy in whole or in part the group as such. the court further considers that israel must ensure with immediate effect that its military forces do not commit any of the aforementioned acts. the court is also in the view that israel must take measures within its power to prevent and punish the direct and public incitement to commit genocide in relation to the
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members of the palestinian group in the gaza strip. lets members of the palestinian group in the gaza strip-— the gaza strip. lets go live now to our correspondence _ the gaza strip. lets go live now to our correspondence anna - the gaza strip. lets go live now to our correspondence anna holliganj the gaza strip. lets go live now to - our correspondence anna holligan who is in the hate outside the international court ofjustice. talk us through what has been happening and the reaction in the court today. i don't think we have and are, unfortunately. so we will stick with jeremy bowen, our international editor who is with us here in the studio. we have had point and counterpoint, but what is next on the big picture?— counterpoint, but what is next on the big picture? festival, we have not heard from _ the big picture? festival, we have not heard from the _ the big picture? festival, we have not heard from the israelis. - the big picture? festival, we have not heard from the israelis. i - the big picture? festival, we have| not heard from the israelis. i think we can guess what they are going to say. they're not going to be at all happy. underthe say. they're not going to be at all happy. under the terms of the court of which they are a member, they are supposed to follow through and do all these things was up they will argue they are doing a lot of them already. israel, this is one of the provisional measures, israel must take all measures to prevent any
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acts that could be considered genocide or killing members of a group, causing bodily harm, affecting conditions excited to bring about the destruction of the group, preventing birth. it is not saying you need to stop your war, its is a need to fight it in a very different way. ezra has been saying throughout that it is fighting it within the —— israel, within the constraints of international he married terry law and this is the un's most senior court saying that they are not doing that. —— international humanitarian law. without prejudicing the consideration the law give to south africa's petition in the long period. africa's petition in the long eriod. �* , ., africa's petition in the long eriod. �* , . ., period. are very grateful for your anal sis. period. are very grateful for your analysis- you _ period. are very grateful for your analysis. you mentioned - period. are very grateful for your analysis. you mentioned the - period. are very grateful for your i analysis. you mentioned the israeli government there. we will be hearing in around an hour's time from mark wright gave, he speaks for the israeli government. you are watching
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bbc news. we had in watching a ruling in the international court of justice that has been given a provisional ruling on a case bought by south africa against israel, a case of genocide. one of the most serious war crimes, if not the most serious war crime that can have action brought against it. the icj ruled against the state cases. we can go live now to the hague and our correspondent, anna holligan who has been watching proceedings in the court. talk to us about the reaction when these preliminary rulings were given. these preliminary rulings were civen. ~ , _, given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there _ given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there was _ given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there was very _ given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there was very quiet - given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there was very quiet as - given. we were inside the courtroom. reaction there was very quiet as all . reaction there was very quiet as all the journalists were trying to follow exactly what this means. what the judges follow exactly what this means. what thejudges have follow exactly what this means. what the judges have ordered follow exactly what this means. what thejudges have ordered is follow exactly what this means. what the judges have ordered is that israel stick to its obligations under the genocide convention, something that actually israel has
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maintain it has done throughout this entire process, ever since it responded to the hamas attacks on the 7th of october. so just to run through what thejudge the 7th of october. so just to run through what the judge said, she ordered that israel must take all measures within its powers to prevent any genocidal acts. it must ensure there are no statements that could be seen as incitement to genocide. i am just looking at some of the reaction, three already from various human rights groups. this is being seen as a victory for south africa, which brought this case under the genocide convention and yet all thejudges are under the genocide convention and yet all the judges are really doing is saying that israel must uphold its existing obligations, something its existing obligations, something it says it is a ready doing. to bring you a reaction from human rights watch, they say the world courts landmark decision put israel and its allies unnoticed that immediate action is needed to prevent genocide and further atrocities against palestinians in
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gaza. to remind you, genocide is the intent to destroy in whole, in part, an entire ethnic, racial, religious or national group. that will be dealt with later on. the merits of the case. this is purely about the provisional measures requested by south africa, designed to prevent any escalation and any actions that could constitute genocide under the genocide convention. galina could constitute genocide under the genocide convention. anna holligan, who is in hate _ genocide convention. anna holligan, who is in hate for— genocide convention. anna holligan, who is in hate for us. _ genocide convention. anna holligan, who is in hate for us. thank - genocide convention. anna holligan, who is in hate for us. thank you - who is in hate for us. thank you very much for us —— the hague. let's go live to south africa. thank you very much for being with us. what is your immediate reaction to this ruling by the icj?— your immediate reaction to this ruling by the icj? good afternoon. the rulin: ruling by the icj? good afternoon. the ruling actually _ ruling by the icj? good afternoon. the ruling actually vindicated - ruling by the icj? good afternoon. | the ruling actually vindicated south africa's consign about the possibly that this genocide going on in gaza. that's one. but the judgment was
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quite lengthy and selling out what they think it is i may be going, including statements made by senior israeli officials and so on. so the take from those is that the response military of israel is occupying power to take up measures to prevent genocide. i think that is what everyone takes out of that. of course, it was expected that the court would interfere with what is essentially the security council, to what a ceasefire, south africa didn't get that but south africa what at least the great power it requested and the majority ofjudges have voted in favour south africa's view. ., ., . ,., . have voted in favour south africa's view. ., ., ., ., view. you mention an important point there. there — view. you mention an important point there, there was _ view. you mention an important point there, there was no _ view. you mention an important point there, there was no order— view. you mention an important point there, there was no order of- view. you mention an important point there, there was no order of the - there, there was no order of the ceasefire stop in many ways, south africa wouldn't have expected that but it is certainly something it would have wanted. is there a
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feeling of will there be a feeling that this doesn't go far enough in the court could have done more? in the court could have done more? in the court could have done more? in the absence of a ceasefire judgment, the absence of a ceasefire judgment, the responsibility is placed on israel's take appropriate measures to prevent genocide. i think that is enough on its own. you would know there is that it been a debate in there is that it been a debate in the council around a ceasefire. of course, israel takes out of this judgment the fact that it was ordered to cease the hostility immediately. —— wasn't ordered. but there are immediate measures, including evidence, it has been very bad ruling for israel, in my view. it does not have enforcement powers,
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can issue this ruling but it does not have enforcement powers. israel has not only said that it is a ready doing its utmost to prevent harm to civilians but it has also said that it may not adhere to any icj ruling. how will south africa react if that comes to pass? it how will south africa react if that comes to pass?— how will south africa react if that comes to pass? it would be a very big problem _ comes to pass? it would be a very big problem in _ comes to pass? it would be a very big problem in terms _ comes to pass? it would be a very big problem in terms of— comes to pass? it would be a very big problem in terms of public- big problem in terms of public perception of israel, if they really refused to implement any of the measures that the court came up with. to lose out in terms of the face round the world. but really, the question of israel expected not to honour this is something else. of course, article 59 the court spells out that it is advice but it is very prudent advice.— out that it is advice but it is very rudent advice. . ~ , ., , . prudent advice. thank you very much a bein:
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prudent advice. thank you very much a being with — prudent advice. thank you very much a being with us- _ prudent advice. thank you very much a being with us. i— prudent advice. thank you very much a being with us. ithink— prudent advice. thank you very much a being with us. i think we _ prudent advice. thank you very much a being with us. i think we will - a being with us. i think we will leave it there for now because we are seeing a group of lawyers descending down the steps outside the international court ofjustice, the international court ofjustice, the so—called peace palace. this is south africa's legal team. we the so-called peace palace. this is south africa's legal team. we have 'ust come south africa's legal team. we have just come out _ south africa's legal team. we have just come out of— south africa's legal team. we have just come out of court, _ south africa's legal team. we have just come out of court, as - south africa's legal team. we have just come out of court, as you - south africa's legal team. we have i just come out of court, as you know. i just come out of court, as you know. i am _ just come out of court, as you know. i am going _ just come out of court, as you know. i am going to — just come out of court, as you know. i am going to give you a minute. so we have— i am going to give you a minute. so we have a— i am going to give you a minute. so we have a minister of international retations— we have a minister of international relations and cooperation is, the director—general of the foreign ministry~ — director—general of the foreign ministry. i'm sure you know him. so the minister— ministry. i'm sure you know him. so the minister is going to speak. we will take _ the minister is going to speak. we will take questions. are you already? _ will take questions. are you already? i will take questions. are you alread ? .,
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will take questions. are you alread ? . ~ already? i am the south african minister of _ already? i am the south african minister of international - already? i am the south african l minister of international relations and corporations. _ minister of international relations and corporations. i— minister of international relations and corporations. i wish - minister of international relations and corporations. i wish to - minister of international relations and corporations. i wish to begini minister of international relations . and corporations. i wish to begin by thanking _ and corporations. i wish to begin by thanking the — and corporations. iwish to begin by thanking the judges— and corporations. i wish to begin by thanking the judges are _ and corporations. i wish to begin by thanking the judges are the - thanking the judges are the international— thanking the judges are the international court - thanking the judges are the international court of- thanking the judges are the | international court ofjustice thanking the judges are the - international court ofjustice for deating — international court ofjustice for deating with _ international court ofjustice for dealing with this _ international court ofjustice for dealing with this matter, - international court ofjustice for dealing with this matter, givenl international court ofjustice for i dealing with this matter, given the urgency— dealing with this matter, given the urgency of— dealing with this matter, given the urgency of the _ dealing with this matter, given the urgency of the need _ dealing with this matter, given the urgency of the need to _ dealing with this matter, given the urgency of the need to protect - urgency of the need to protect innocent — urgency of the need to protect innocent civilians _ urgency of the need to protect innocent civilians in _ urgency of the need to protect innocent civilians in palestinei urgency of the need to protect. innocent civilians in palestine and to ensure — innocent civilians in palestine and to ensure that _ innocent civilians in palestine and to ensure that the _ innocent civilians in palestine and to ensure that the harm - innocent civilians in palestine and to ensure that the harm that - innocent civilians in palestine and. to ensure that the harm that south africa _ to ensure that the harm that south africa has— to ensure that the harm that south africa has referred _ to ensure that the harm that south africa has referred to _ to ensure that the harm that south africa has referred to in— to ensure that the harm that south africa has referred to in the - to ensure that the harm that south africa has referred to in the case . africa has referred to in the case it brought — africa has referred to in the case it brought before _ africa has referred to in the case it brought before the _ africa has referred to in the case it brought before the icj - africa has referred to in the case it brought before the icj that - africa has referred to in the case| it brought before the icj that that harm _ it brought before the icj that that harm is— it brought before the icj that that harm is addressed _ it brought before the icj that that harm is addressed and _ it brought before the icj that that harm is addressed and that - it brought before the icj that that. harm is addressed and that people's lives are _ harm is addressed and that people's lives are saved, _ harm is addressed and that people's lives are saved, the _ harm is addressed and that people's lives are saved, the saving - harm is addressed and that people's lives are saved, the saving of- harm is addressed and that people's lives are saved, the saving of life . lives are saved, the saving of life is not _ lives are saved, the saving of life is not merety— lives are saved, the saving of life is not merely with _ lives are saved, the saving of life is not merely with respect - lives are saved, the saving of life is not merely with respect to - lives are saved, the saving of life i is not merely with respect to having a ceasefire. — is not merely with respect to having a ceasefire. it— is not merely with respect to having a ceasefire, it is— is not merely with respect to having a ceasefire, it is ensuring _ is not merely with respect to having a ceasefire, it is ensuring that- a ceasefire, it is ensuring that humanitarian _ a ceasefire, it is ensuring that humanitarian aid _ a ceasefire, it is ensuring that humanitarian aid is _ a ceasefire, it is ensuring that humanitarian aid is provided l a ceasefire, it is ensuring thatl humanitarian aid is provided to those — humanitarian aid is provided to those who— humanitarian aid is provided to those who need _ humanitarian aid is provided to those who need support - humanitarian aid is provided to those who need support as i humanitarian aid is provided to| those who need support as well humanitarian aid is provided to i those who need support as well as ensuring _ those who need support as well as ensuring that _ those who need support as well as ensuring that the _ those who need support as well as ensuring that the state _ those who need support as well as ensuring that the state of - those who need support as well as ensuring that the state of israel, l ensuring that the state of israel, which _ ensuring that the state of israel, which is — ensuring that the state of israel, which is currently _ ensuring that the state of israel, which is currently the _ ensuring that the state of israel, which is currently the occupier. ensuring that the state of israel, i which is currently the occupier and administrator— which is currently the occupier and administrator in _ which is currently the occupier and administrator in palestine, - which is currently the occupier and.
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administrator in palestine, provides the necessary— administrator in palestine, provides the necessary basic— administrator in palestine, provides the necessary basic services - administrator in palestine, provides the necessary basic services that i the necessary basic services that the necessary basic services that the residents— the necessary basic services that the residents of— the necessary basic services that the residents of gaza _ the necessary basic services that the residents of gaza and - the necessary basic services that the residents of gaza and the i the necessary basic services that l the residents of gaza and the west bank reguire _ the residents of gaza and the west bank require. this— the residents of gaza and the west bank require. this case _ the residents of gaza and the west bank require. this case was- the residents of gaza and the west bank require. this case was very i bank require. this case was very much _ bank require. this case was very much about— bank require. this case was very much about international - bank require. this case was very much about international bodies| much about international bodies ensuring — much about international bodies ensuring that _ much about international bodies ensuring that they— much about international bodies ensuring that they exercise i much about international bodiesj ensuring that they exercise their responsibitity_ ensuring that they exercise their responsibility to _ ensuring that they exercise their responsibility to protect - ensuring that they exercise their responsibility to protect us - ensuring that they exercise their responsibility to protect us all. ensuring that they exercise their| responsibility to protect us all as global— responsibility to protect us all as global citizens, _ responsibility to protect us all as global citizens, all— responsibility to protect us all as global citizens, all member- responsibility to protect us all as i global citizens, all member states of the _ global citizens, all member states of the united _ global citizens, all member states of the united nations _ global citizens, all member states of the united nations have - global citizens, all member states i of the united nations have attached their signatures _ of the united nations have attached their signatures to— of the united nations have attached their signatures to a _ of the united nations have attached their signatures to a range - of the united nations have attached their signatures to a range of - their signatures to a range of instruments. _ their signatures to a range of instruments. but _ their signatures to a range of instruments. but one - their signatures to a range of instruments. but one lives. their signatures to a range of. instruments. but one lives are threatened, _ instruments. but one lives are threatened, these _ instruments. but one lives are| threatened, these instruments instruments. but one lives are i threatened, these instruments are not brought— threatened, these instruments are not brought to _ threatened, these instruments are not brought to bear— threatened, these instruments are not brought to bear and _ threatened, these instruments are not brought to bear and south i threatened, these instruments are i not brought to bear and south africa had the _ not brought to bear and south africa had the view — not brought to bear and south africa had the view that _ not brought to bear and south africa had the view that we _ not brought to bear and south africa had the view that we could - not brought to bear and south africa had the view that we could not - not brought to bear and south africa| had the view that we could not stand idly by— had the view that we could not stand idly by and _ had the view that we could not stand idly by and continue _ had the view that we could not stand idly by and continue to _ had the view that we could not stand idly by and continue to observe i had the view that we could not stand idly by and continue to observe the i idly by and continue to observe the killing _ idly by and continue to observe the killing of— idly by and continue to observe the killing of thousands _ idly by and continue to observe the killing of thousands of— idly by and continue to observe the killing of thousands of palestinian. killing of thousands of palestinian citizens— killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who — killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who had _ killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who had no _ killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who had no role - killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who had no role in - killing of thousands of palestinian citizens who had no role in the i killing of thousands of palestinian. citizens who had no role in the oval act of _ citizens who had no role in the oval act of hostage _ citizens who had no role in the oval act of hostage taking _ citizens who had no role in the oval act of hostage taking and _ citizens who had no role in the oval act of hostage taking and killing i act of hostage taking and killing that was— act of hostage taking and killing that was done _ act of hostage taking and killing that was done by— act of hostage taking and killing that was done by hamas. - act of hostage taking and killing that was done by hamas. and . that was done by hamas. and therefore. _ that was done by hamas. and therefore, we _ that was done by hamas. and therefore, we thought - that was done by hamas. and therefore, we thought it i that was done by hamas. and i therefore, we thought it important that we _ therefore, we thought it important that we do— therefore, we thought it important that we do report _ therefore, we thought it important that we do report and _
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therefore, we thought it important that we do report and apply- therefore, we thought it important that we do report and apply it i therefore, we thought it important that we do report and apply it to i that we do report and apply it to the international— that we do report and apply it to the international court - that we do report and apply it to the international court of - that we do report and apply it toj the international court ofjustice that the — the international court ofjustice that the measures _ the international court ofjustice that the measures provided i the international court ofjustice i that the measures provided within the convention _ that the measures provided within the convention for— that the measures provided within the convention for the _ that the measures provided within| the convention for the punishment and prevention _ the convention for the punishment and prevention of _ the convention for the punishment and prevention of genocide - the convention for the punishment and prevention of genocide are i and prevention of genocide are brought— and prevention of genocide are brought to _ and prevention of genocide are brought to bear— and prevention of genocide are brought to bear and _ and prevention of genocide are brought to bear and that - and prevention of genocide are brought to bear and that the i and prevention of genocide are i brought to bear and that the state of israet— brought to bear and that the state of israet is — brought to bear and that the state of israel is called _ brought to bear and that the state of israel is called upon _ brought to bear and that the state of israel is called upon by- brought to bear and that the state of israel is called upon by the i of israel is called upon by the judges — of israel is called upon by the judges to— of israel is called upon by the judges to act— of israel is called upon by the judges to act to _ of israel is called upon by the judges to act to protect - of israel is called upon by the i judges to act to protect civilians and to— judges to act to protect civilians and to end _ judges to act to protect civilians and to end the _ judges to act to protect civilians and to end the massive - judges to act to protect civilians and to end the massive level i judges to act to protect civilians and to end the massive level of| judges to act to protect civilians i and to end the massive level of harm that we _ and to end the massive level of harm that we have — and to end the massive level of harm that we have seen _ and to end the massive level of harm that we have seen since _ and to end the massive level of harm that we have seen since the - and to end the massive level of harm that we have seen since the israeli i that we have seen since the israeli action— that we have seen since the israeli action began— that we have seen since the israeli action began and _ that we have seen since the israeli action began and we _ that we have seen since the israeli action began and we agree - that we have seen since the israeli| action began and we agree entirely with the _ action began and we agree entirely with the judges _ action began and we agree entirely with the judges that _ action began and we agree entirely with the judges that hamas - action began and we agree entirely with the judges that hamas should j with the judges that hamas should release _ with the judges that hamas should release the — with the judges that hamas should release the hostages _ with the judges that hamas should release the hostages that - with the judges that hamas should release the hostages that they i release the hostages that they currently — release the hostages that they currently hold. _ release the hostages that they currently hold. we _ release the hostages that they currently hold. we are - release the hostages that they currently hold. we are also, i release the hostages that they i currently hold. we are also, with our various — currently hold. we are also, with our various engagements - currently hold. we are also, with our various engagements with i currently hold. we are also, withi our various engagements with our partners _ our various engagements with our partners internationally, - our various engagements with our partners internationally, believe i partners internationally, believe the moment— partners internationally, believe the moment is— partners internationally, believe the moment is now— partners internationally, believe the moment is now right- partners internationally, believe the moment is now right for- partners internationally, believe i the moment is now right for there to be negotiations— the moment is now right for there to be negotiations for— the moment is now right for there to be negotiations for a _ the moment is now right for there to be negotiations for a two _ the moment is now right for there to be negotiations for a two state - be negotiations for a two state sotution — be negotiations for a two state solution to _ be negotiations for a two state solution to end _ be negotiations for a two state solution to end this _ be negotiations for a two state solution to end this conflict i solution to end this conflict decisivety. _ solution to end this conflict decisively. $—
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solution to end this conflict decisively. solution to end this conflict i decisively._ i decisively. a disappointed? i believe that _ decisively. a disappointed? i believe that in _ decisively. a disappointed? i believe that in exercising i decisively. a disappointed? i j believe that in exercising the order. — believe that in exercising the order. there _ believe that in exercising the order, there would _ believe that in exercising the order, there would have i believe that in exercising the order, there would have to l believe that in exercising the | order, there would have to be believe that in exercising the i order, there would have to be a ceasefire. — order, there would have to be a ceasefire, without _ order, there would have to be a ceasefire, without it _ order, there would have to be a ceasefire, without it the - order, there would have to be a ceasefire, without it the order. ceasefire, without it the order doesn't — ceasefire, without it the order doesn't actually _ ceasefire, without it the order doesn't actually work. - ceasefire, without it the order doesn't actually work. i - ceasefire, without it the order doesn't actually work. i wouldj ceasefire, without it the order- doesn't actually work. i would have wanted _ doesn't actually work. i would have wanted a _ doesn't actually work. i would have wanted a ceasefire. _ doesn't actually work. i would have wanted a ceasefire. [— doesn't actually work. i would have wanted a ceasefire.— wanted a ceasefire. i didn't specifically _ wanted a ceasefire. i didn't specifically core _ wanted a ceasefire. i didn't specifically core for - wanted a ceasefire. i didn't specifically core for a i wanted a ceasefire. i didn't i specifically core for a ceasefire. i disappointed that they didn't specify— disappointed that they didn't specify that?— disappointed that they didn't specify that? disappointed that they didn't seci that? , ., . specify that? there is no way that i am auoin specify that? there is no way that i am going to _ specify that? there is no way that i am going to say — specify that? there is no way that i am going to say i _ specify that? there is no way that i am going to say i am _ specify that? there is no way that i i am going to say i am disappointed. specify that? there is no way that i l am going to say i am disappointed. i hope for— am going to say i am disappointed. i hope for but — am going to say i am disappointed. i we for but the _ am going to say i am disappointed. i hope for but the fact _ am going to say i am disappointed. i hope for but the fact of— am going to say i am disappointed. i hope for but the fact of delivering i hope for but the fact of delivering humanitarian _ hope for but the fact of delivering humanitarian aid, _ hope for but the fact of delivering humanitarian aid, the _ hope for but the fact of delivering humanitarian aid, the fact - hope for but the fact of delivering humanitarian aid, the fact of- hope for but the fact of delivering i humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures_ humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures that _ humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures that reduce _ humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures that reduce the - humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures that reduce the levels i humanitarian aid, the fact of taking measures that reduce the levels of| measures that reduce the levels of harm _ measures that reduce the levels of harm against — measures that reduce the levels of harm against persons _ measures that reduce the levels of harm against persons who - measures that reduce the levels of harm against persons who have - measures that reduce the levels of harm against persons who have no| harm against persons who have no rule that _ harm against persons who have no rule that it — harm against persons who have no rule that it might— harm against persons who have no rule that it might roll— harm against persons who have no rule that it might roll against - harm against persons who have no rule that it might roll against whatl rule that it might roll against what israet— rule that it might roll against what israel is _ rule that it might roll against what israel is combating, _ rule that it might roll against what israel is combating, for— rule that it might roll against what israel is combating, for mi - rule that it might roll against whatl israel is combating, for mi requires a ceasefire — israel is combating, for mi requires a ceasefire and _ israel is combating, for mi requires a ceasefire and i_ israel is combating, for mi requires a ceasefire and i believe _ israel is combating, for mi requires a ceasefire and i believe israel- a ceasefire and i believe israel would — a ceasefire and i believe israel would have _ a ceasefire and i believe israel would have two. _ a ceasefire and i believe israel would have two.—
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a ceasefire and i believe israel would have two. i would have two. why do you think? i think the court _ would have two. why do you think? i think the court judgment _ would have two. why do you think? i think the court judgment has - would have two. why do you think? i think the courtjudgment has be - would have two. why do you think? i l think the courtjudgment has be read very directty~ — think the courtjudgment has be read very directty~ -- _ think the courtjudgment has be read very directly. —— carefully. _ think the courtjudgment has be read very directly. —— carefully. we - think the courtjudgment has be read very directly. —— carefully. we are i very directly. —— carefully. we are satisfied _ very directly. —— carefully. we are satisfied that _ very directly. —— carefully. we are satisfied that the _ very directly. —— carefully. we are satisfied that the provisional - satisfied that the provisional measure _ satisfied that the provisional measure that— satisfied that the provisional measure that we _ satisfied that the provisional measure that we sought - satisfied that the provisional measure that we sought to i satisfied that the provisional. measure that we sought to be addressed _ measure that we sought to be addressed would _ measure that we sought to be addressed would be _ measure that we sought to bei addressed would be addressed measure that we sought to be - addressed would be addressed by the court and _ addressed would be addressed by the court ahd i_ addressed would be addressed by the court and i believe _ addressed would be addressed by the court and i believe if— addressed would be addressed by the court and i believe if you _ addressed would be addressed by the court and i believe if you read - addressed would be addressed by the court and i believe if you read the - court and i believe if you read the convention — court and i believe if you read the convention very— court and i believe if you read the convention very carefully, - court and i believe if you read the convention very carefully, the - convention very carefully, the matter — convention very carefully, the matter of _ convention very carefully, the matter of how _ convention very carefully, the matter of how a _ convention very carefully, the matter of how a war- convention very carefully, the matter of how a war or - convention very carefully, the l matter of how a war or conflict convention very carefully, the i matter of how a war or conflict is conducted — matter of how a war or conflict is conducted is _ matter of how a war or conflict is conducted is not _ matter of how a war or conflict is conducted is not an _ matter of how a war or conflict is conducted is not an r—rated. - matter of how a war or conflict is conducted is not an r—rated. i. matter of how a war or conflict is - conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted _ conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted that— conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted that to — conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted that to work _ conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted that to work sensation. - conducted is not an r—rated. i would wanted that to work sensation. is . wanted that to work sensation. is inctuded — wanted that to work sensation. is included in — wanted that to work sensation. is included in the _ wanted that to work sensation. is included in the judgment. - wanted that to work sensation. is included in the judgment. but- wanted that to work sensation. is included in the judgment. but i. wanted that to work sensation. isl included in the judgment. but i am satisfied _ included in the judgment. but i am satisfied with _ included in the judgment. but i am satisfied with what _ included in the judgment. but i am satisfied with what has _ included in the judgment. but i am satisfied with what has been - included in the judgment. but i am satisfied with what has been given| satisfied with what has been given and in _ satisfied with what has been given and in particular, _ satisfied with what has been given and in particular, i— satisfied with what has been given and in particular, i was— satisfied with what has been given and in particular, i was concernedl and in particular, i was concerned as the _ and in particular, i was concerned as the president _ and in particular, i was concerned as the president of _ and in particular, i was concerned as the president of the _ and in particular, i was concerned as the president of the court - and in particular, i was concerned as the president of the court was| as the president of the court was reading _ as the president of the court was reading the — as the president of the court was reading the order— as the president of the court was reading the order that— as the president of the court was reading the order that referencel as the president of the court was - reading the order that reference was made _ reading the order that reference was made to— reading the order that reference was made to a _ reading the order that reference was made to a report _ reading the order that reference was made to a report because _ reading the order that reference was made to a report because the - made to a report because the reporting _ made to a report because the reporting is _ made to a report because the reporting is aptly _ made to a report because the reporting is aptly imperative. | made to a report because the - reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring — reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring is— reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring is vital— reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring is vital and _ reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring is vital and so - reporting is aptly imperative. the monitoring is vital and so the - reporting is aptly imperative. thel monitoring is vital and so the fact that a _ monitoring is vital and so the fact that a monthly— monitoring is vital and so the fact that a monthly report, _ monitoring is vital and so the fact that a monthly report, report -
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monitoring is vital and so the fact . that a monthly report, report within one month — that a monthly report, report within one month of— that a monthly report, report within one month of this _ that a monthly report, report within one month of this date, _ that a monthly report, report within one month of this date, has- that a monthly report, report within one month of this date, has been. one month of this date, has been ordered, — one month of this date, has been ordered, it — one month of this date, has been ordered, it is, _ one month of this date, has been ordered, it is, i— one month of this date, has been ordered, it is, i believe, - one month of this date, has been ordered, it is, i believe, very- ordered, it is, i believe, very significant _ ordered, it is, i believe, very significant-— ordered, it is, i believe, very siunificant. ., ., ., significant. what would you say to the us, significant. what would you say to the us, who _ significant. what would you say to the us, who have _ significant. what would you say to the us, who have called _ significant. what would you say to the us, who have called this - significant. what would you say to the us, who have called this case | the us, who have called this case merittess? — the us, who have called this case meritless?— the us, who have called this case meritless? the fact that the court sa s that meritless? the fact that the court says that today — meritless? the fact that the court says that today we _ meritless? the fact that the court says that today we are _ meritless? the fact that the court says that today we are not - meritless? the fact that the court. says that today we are not deciding about _ says that today we are not deciding about genocide, _ says that today we are not deciding about genocide, what _ says that today we are not deciding about genocide, what we _ says that today we are not deciding about genocide, what we are - says that today we are not deciding i about genocide, what we are dealing are the _ about genocide, what we are dealing are the provisional— about genocide, what we are dealing are the provisional measures, - about genocide, what we are dealing are the provisional measures, it- about genocide, what we are dealing are the provisional measures, it is. are the provisional measures, it is clear— are the provisional measures, it is clear that — are the provisional measures, it is clear that the _ are the provisional measures, it is clear that the court _ are the provisional measures, it is clear that the court does - are the provisional measures, it is clear that the court does say - clear that the court does say circumstances _ clear that the court does say circumstances exist - clear that the court does say circumstances exist where l clear that the court does say circumstances exist where itl clear that the court does say . circumstances exist where it is ptausibte — circumstances exist where it is plausible that— circumstances exist where it is plausible that genocidal- circumstances exist where it is plausible that genocidal acts . circumstances exist where it is i plausible that genocidal acts have been committed. _ plausible that genocidal acts have been committed. there _ plausible that genocidal acts have been committed. there is, - plausible that genocidal acts have been committed. there is, of- plausible that genocidal acts have - been committed. there is, of course, means— been committed. there is, of course, means once _ been committed. there is, of course, means once the — been committed. there is, of course, means once the merit _ been committed. there is, of course, means once the merit case _ been committed. there is, of course, means once the merit case is - means once the merit case is addressed, and _ means once the merit case is addressed, and the _ means once the merit case is addressed, and the finding. means once the merit case is addressed, and the finding isl means once the merit case is - addressed, and the finding is that there _ addressed, and the finding is that there has— addressed, and the finding is that there has been— addressed, and the finding is that there has been genocide, - addressed, and the finding is that there has been genocide, those l there has been genocide, those states— there has been genocide, those states that _ there has been genocide, those states that have _ there has been genocide, those states that have aided - there has been genocide, those states that have aided and - there has been genocide, thosel states that have aided and have become — states that have aided and have become a — states that have aided and have become a party— states that have aided and have become a party to _ states that have aided and have become a party to commission. states that have aided and have i become a party to commission of states that have aided and have - become a party to commission of an infringement— become a party to commission of an infringement in— become a party to commission of an infringement in terms _ become a party to commission of an infringement in terms of— become a party to commission of an infringement in terms of the - infringement in terms of the convention _ infringement in terms of the convention.— infringement in terms of the convention. , . , ., convention. dealing israelwith conform to _ convention. dealing israelwith conform to the _ convention. dealing israelwith conform to the rules _ convention. dealing israelwith conform to the rules laid - convention. dealing israelwith conform to the rules laid down | convention. dealing israel with i conform to the rules laid down by the court — conform to the rules laid down by the court today? | conform to the rules laid down by the court today?— conform to the rules laid down by the court today? i have never really been ho -e the court today? i have never really been hope about _ the court today? i have never really been hope about israel— the court today? i have never really been hope about israel but - the court today? i have never really been hope about israel but israel. been hope about israel but israel has very— been hope about israel but israel has very powerful— been hope about israel but israel has very powerful friends - been hope about israel but israel has very powerful friends who . been hope about israel but israel has very powerful friends who i l been hope about israel but israel- has very powerful friends who i hope will advise _ has very powerful friends who i hope will advise israel— has very powerful friends who i hope will advise israel they— has very powerful friends who i hope will advise israel they should - has very powerful friends who i hope
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will advise israel they should act. . will advise israel they should act. what _ will advise israel they should act. what does — will advise israel they should act. what does it— will advise israel they should act. what does it say— will advise israel they should act. what does it say about _ will advise israel they should act. what does it say about israel - will advise israel they should act. what does it say about israel as i will advise israel they should act. l what does it say about israel as a country? — what does it say about israel as a country? i — what does it say about israel as a count ? ~ ., what does it say about israel as a count ? ,, ., , ., country? i think that is for you as the public— country? i think that is for you as the public to _ country? i think that is for you as the public to decide. _ country? i think that is for you as the public to decide. what - country? i think that is for you as the public to decide. what we - country? i think that is for you as i the public to decide. what we have said is— the public to decide. what we have said is here — the public to decide. what we have said is here is— the public to decide. what we have said is here is an— the public to decide. what we have said is here is an international- said is here is an international instrument. _ said is here is an international instrument, let— said is here is an international instrument, let us— said is here is an international instrument, let us bring - said is here is an international instrument, let us bring it - said is here is an international| instrument, let us bring it into observation _ instrument, let us bring it into observation and _ instrument, let us bring it into observation and letter- instrument, let us bring it intoi observation and letter stopping observers— observation and letter stopping observers of— observation and letter stopping observers of significant - observation and letter stopping observers of significant harm. i observation and letter stopping - observers of significant harm. let's act, and _ observers of significant harm. let's act, and some _ observers of significant harm. let's act, and some africa _ observers of significant harm. let's act, and some africa has _ observers of significant harm. let's act, and some africa has acted. - observers of significant harm. let'sl act, and some africa has acted. and what _ act, and some africa has acted. and what the _ act, and some africa has acted. and what the court — act, and some africa has acted. and what the court has _ act, and some africa has acted. and what the court has indicated - act, and some africa has acted. and what the court has indicated is - act, and some africa has acted. and what the court has indicated is thatl what the court has indicated is that this convention— what the court has indicated is that this convention has _ what the court has indicated is that this convention has been— what the court has indicated is that this convention has been brought l what the court has indicated is thati this convention has been brought to life in— this convention has been brought to life in a very— this convention has been brought to life in a very practical _ this convention has been brought to life in a very practical way. - this convention has been brought to life in a very practical way. and - this convention has been brought to life in a very practical way. and i- life in a very practical way. and i now— life in a very practical way. and i now think— life in a very practical way. and i now think what _ life in a very practical way. and i now think what we _ life in a very practical way. and i now think what we want - life in a very practical way. and i now think what we want is - life in a very practical way. and i now think what we want is that i life in a very practical way. and i. now think what we want is that the member— now think what we want is that the member states _ now think what we want is that the member states of— now think what we want is that the member states of the _ now think what we want is that the member states of the united - now think what we want is that the . member states of the united nations must oversee — member states of the united nations must oversee the _ member states of the united nations must oversee the process _ member states of the united nations must oversee the process and - member states of the united nations| must oversee the process and ensure that we _ must oversee the process and ensure that we create — must oversee the process and ensure that we create a — must oversee the process and ensure that we create a basis _ must oversee the process and ensure that we create a basis for— must oversee the process and ensure that we create a basis for a _ must oversee the process and ensure that we create a basis for a global- that we create a basis for a global community— that we create a basis for a global community in _ that we create a basis for a global community in which _ that we create a basis for a global community in which a _ that we create a basis for a global community in which a resort - that we create a basis for a global community in which a resort to i that we create a basis for a global. community in which a resort to arms is no _ community in which a resort to arms is no longer— community in which a resort to arms is no longer easv _ community in which a resort to arms is no longer easv a_ community in which a resort to arms is no longer easy. a resort _ community in which a resort to arms is no longer easy. a resort to- community in which a resort to arms is no longer easy. a resort to abusel is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no _ is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer— is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer easv _ is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer easy. and _ is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer easy. and that - is no longer easy. a resort to abuse is no longer easy. and that more i is no longer easy. and that more effort _ is no longer easy. and that more effort is — is no longer easy. and that more effort is now— is no longer easy. and that more effort is now directed _ is no longer easy. and that more effort is now directed towards i effort is now directed towards negotiation _ effort is now directed towards negotiation and _ effort is now directed towards negotiation and towards - effort is now directed towards . negotiation and towards seeking peaceful— negotiation and towards seeking peaceful means _ negotiation and towards seeking peaceful means of _ negotiation and towards seeking peaceful means of ending - negotiation and towards seeking l
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peaceful means of ending conflict. as far— peaceful means of ending conflict. as far as _ peaceful means of ending conflict. as far as t — peaceful means of ending conflict. as far as i understand, _ peaceful means of ending conflict. as far as i understand, the - as far as i understand, the convention _ as far as i understand, the convention states- as far as i understand, the convention states are - as far as i understand, the - convention states are members, states— convention states are members, states are — convention states are members, states are signatories _ convention states are members, states are signatories and - convention states are members, states are signatories and you i convention states are members, i states are signatories and you bring action— states are signatories and you bring action with — states are signatories and you bring action with reference _ states are signatories and you bring action with reference to _ states are signatories and you bring action with reference to states - states are signatories and you bring action with reference to states are i action with reference to states are not took _ action with reference to states are not took a — action with reference to states are not took a particular— action with reference to states are not took a particular group. - action with reference to states are not took a particular group. has . not took a particular group. has hamas not took a particular group. hamas behaved genocide not took a particular group.- hamas behaved genocide elite? not took a particular group. hasl hamas behaved genocide elite? i hamas behaved genocide elite? believe hamas behaved genocide elite? i believe what has been done by hamas has certainly _ believe what has been done by hamas has certainly caused _ believe what has been done by hamas has certainly caused great _ believe what has been done by hamas has certainly caused great harm - believe what has been done by hamas has certainly caused great harm and l has certainly caused great harm and i believe _ has certainly caused great harm and i believe the — has certainly caused great harm and i believe the hostages _ has certainly caused great harm and i believe the hostages should - has certainly caused great harm and i believe the hostages should be - i believe the hostages should be freed _ i believe the hostages should be freed. do— i believe the hostages should be freed. ,, , i believe the hostages should be freed. i. , ., freed. do you believe that the decision of — freed. do you believe that the decision of the _ freed. do you believe that the decision of the court - freed. do you believe that the decision of the court will - freed. do you believe that the decision of the court will help | freed. do you believe that the i decision of the court will help in solving — decision of the court will help in solving the problem of the israeli aggression and the short—term may be can help _ aggression and the short—term may be can help find a political solution to the _ can help find a political solution to the conflict between the palestinian people and the israeli occupation? my palestinian people and the israeli occupation?_ palestinian people and the israeli occuation? g , ., occupation? my hope is that we will be . in to occupation? my hope is that we will begin to move _ occupation? my hope is that we will begin to move towards _ occupation? my hope is that we will begin to move towards a _ occupation? my hope is that we will begin to move towards a process i begin to move towards a process where _ begin to move towards a process where substantially, _ begin to move towards a process where substantially, a _ begin to move towards a process where substantially, a two - begin to move towards a process where substantially, a two statel
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where substantially, a two state solution — where substantially, a two state solution is — where substantially, a two state solution is being _ where substantially, a two state solution is being discussed. - where substantially, a two state solution is being discussed. thei solution is being discussed. the people — solution is being discussed. the people of— solution is being discussed. the people of palestine _ solution is being discussed. the people of palestine have - solution is being discussed. the i people of palestine have suffered harm _ people of palestine have suffered harm for— people of palestine have suffered harm for many— people of palestine have suffered harm for many decades. - people of palestine have suffered harm for many decades. i- people of palestine have suffered harm for many decades. i don't. harm for many decades. i don't believe — harm for many decades. i don't believe it— harm for many decades. i don't believe it will— harm for many decades. i don't believe it will end _ harm for many decades. i don't believe it will end today- harm for many decades. i don't believe it will end today or - believe it will end today or tomorrow _ believe it will end today or tomorrow but _ believe it will end today or tomorrow but what - believe it will end today or tomorrow but what we - believe it will end today ori tomorrow but what we have believe it will end today or - tomorrow but what we have done is believe it will end today or _ tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear _ tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear signal _ tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear signal has _ tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear signal has been _ tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear signal has been sent - tomorrow but what we have done is a very clear signal has been sent by. very clear signal has been sent by the court — very clear signal has been sent by the court and _ very clear signal has been sent by the court and it _ very clear signal has been sent by the court and it is— very clear signal has been sent by the court and it is now— very clear signal has been sent by the court and it is now a - very clear signal has been sent by the court and it is now a test - very clear signal has been sent by the court and it is now a test for. the court and it is now a test for the court and it is now a test for the government— the court and it is now a test for the government and _ the court and it is now a test for the government and people - the court and it is now a test for the government and people of. the court and it is now a test for- the government and people of israel as to whether— the government and people of israel as to whether they _ the government and people of israel as to whether they will _ the government and people of israel as to whether they will act _ the government and people of israel as to whether they will act in - the government and people of israel as to whether they will act in a - as to whether they will act in a manner— as to whether they will act in a manner that _ as to whether they will act in a manner that says— as to whether they will act in a manner that says all— as to whether they will act in a manner that says all of- as to whether they will act in a manner that says all of us - as to whether they will act in a l manner that says all of us must respect international— manner that says all of us must respect international law. - manner that says all of us must respect international law.- manner that says all of us must respect international law. what are the applications — respect international law. what are the applications of— respect international law. what are the applications of international - the applications of international law? _ the applications of international law? if— the applications of international law? , ., the applications of international law? , . , the applications of international law? , law? if israel acts in accord with it, i law? if israel acts in accord with it. i think _ law? if israel acts in accord with it. i think the — law? if israel acts in accord with it, i think the implications - law? if israel acts in accord with it, i think the implications are l law? if israel acts in accord with | it, i think the implications are for a future — it, i think the implications are for a future hope _ it, i think the implications are for a future hope that _ it, i think the implications are for a future hope that it _ it, i think the implications are for a future hope that it might- it, i think the implications are for. a future hope that it might hopeful wortd, _ a future hope that it might hopeful world, should _ a future hope that it might hopeful world, should it— a future hope that it might hopeful world, should it not— a future hope that it might hopeful world, should it not then - world, should it not then essentially, _ world, should it not then essentially, we - world, should it not then essentially, we are - world, should it not then . essentially, we are opening world, should it not then - essentially, we are opening up world, should it not then _ essentially, we are opening up room for all— essentially, we are opening up room for all of— essentially, we are opening up room for all of these _ essentially, we are opening up room for all of these is _ essentially, we are opening up room for all of these is in _ essentially, we are opening up room for all of these is in many— for all of these is in many conflicts— for all of these is in many conflicts throughout - for all of these is in many conflicts throughout the i for all of these is in many- conflicts throughout the world and i think we _ conflicts throughout the world and i think we will— conflicts throughout the world and i think we will be _ conflicts throughout the world and i think we will be setting _ conflicts throughout the world and i think we will be setting a _ conflicts throughout the world and i think we will be setting a terrible, i think we will be setting a terrible, terrible _
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think we will be setting a terrible, terrible precedent. _ think we will be setting a terrible, terrible precedent. so— think we will be setting a terrible, terrible precedent. so what - think we will be setting a terrible, terrible precedent. so what we . terrible precedent. so what we should — terrible precedent. so what we should do— terrible precedent. so what we should do what _ terrible precedent. so what we should do what all— terrible precedent. so what we should do what all of— terrible precedent. so what we should do what all of us - terrible precedent. so what we| should do what all of us should terrible precedent. so what we . should do what all of us should do is call— should do what all of us should do is call on — should do what all of us should do is call on israel— should do what all of us should do is call on israel to— should do what all of us should do is call on israel to act _ should do what all of us should do is call on israel to act in— should do what all of us should do is call on israel to act in terms - should do what all of us should do is call on israel to act in terms of. is call on israel to act in terms of its decisions _ is call on israel to act in terms of its decisions.— its decisions. are you preserving times of israel? _ its decisions. are you preserving times of israel? i _ its decisions. are you preserving times of israel? i dating - its decisions. are you preserving times of israel? i dating it - its decisions. are you preserving times of israel? i dating it is - times of israel? i dating it is matter with _ times of israel? i dating it is matter with israel _ times of israel? i dating it is matter with israel and - times of israel? i dating it is matter with israel and south times of israel? i dating it is - matter with israel and south africa here~ _ matter with israel and south africa here~ oil_ matter with israel and south africa here. oil questions _ matter with israel and south africa here. oil questions are _ matter with israel and south africa here. oil questions are about - matter with israel and south africai here. oil questions are about israel but the _ here. 0il questions are about israel but the real— here. oil questions are about israel but the real issue _ here. oil questions are about israel but the real issue at _ here. oil questions are about israel but the real issue at the _ here. oil questions are about israel but the real issue at the people - here. oil questions are about israel but the real issue at the people of. but the real issue at the people of palestine — but the real issue at the people of palestine who _ but the real issue at the people of palestine who are _ but the real issue at the people of palestine who are being _ but the real issue at the people of palestine who are being killed - but the real issue at the people of. palestine who are being killed every day. palestine who are being killed every dav the _ palestine who are being killed every day. the people _ palestine who are being killed every day. the people of— palestine who are being killed every day. the people of palestine - palestine who are being killed every day. the people of palestine who i palestine who are being killed everyl day. the people of palestine who are sleeping _ day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in— day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in the — day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in the cold, _ day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in the cold, the _ day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in the cold, the people - day. the people of palestine who are sleeping in the cold, the people of. sleeping in the cold, the people of palestine — sleeping in the cold, the people of palestine who _ sleeping in the cold, the people of palestine who are _ sleeping in the cold, the people of palestine who are denied - sleeping in the cold, the people of palestine who are denied food, - sleeping in the cold, the people of. palestine who are denied food, water and energv — palestine who are denied food, water and energv that— palestine who are denied food, water and energv that is— palestine who are denied food, water and energy. that is the _ palestine who are denied food, water and energy. that is the critical- and energy. that is the critical issue — and energy. that is the critical issue that _ and energy. that is the critical issue that all— and energy. that is the critical issue that all of _ and energy. that is the critical issue that all of us _ and energy. that is the critical issue that all of us to - and energy. that is the critical issue that all of us to focus . and energy. that is the criticall issue that all of us to focus on. our message to the people of palestine _ 0ur message to the people of palestine is— 0ur message to the people of palestine is never— our message to the people of palestine is never give - 0ur message to the people of palestine is never give up- our message to the people of. palestine is never give up hope, south _ palestine is never give up hope, south africa _ palestine is never give up hope, south africa got _ palestine is never give up hope, south africa got over _ palestine is never give up hope, south africa got over the - palestine is never give up hope, south africa got over the party i south africa got over the party depression. _ south africa got over the party depression, they— south africa got over the party depression, they were - south africa got over the party i depression, they were overcome. south africa got over the party - depression, they were overcome. —— apartheid _ depression, they were overcome. —— apartheid oppression. _
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and to read a message from the petteted — and to read a message from the pelleted and people on this very important day. this is a historic dav _ important day. this is a historic dav~ comes _ important day. this is a historic day. comes to momentous order from the international court ofjustice. this order— the international court ofjustice. this order means that the court recognised the gravity of the situation and was commenced by south africa's— situation and was commenced by south africa's compelling presentation but was based on law and fact that there are possible causes that israel committed genocide in gaza pulled up it means _ committed genocide in gaza pulled up it means that the suffering of the people _ it means that the suffering of the people in— it means that the suffering of the people in gaza have been heard in the great — people in gaza have been heard in the great hall ofjustice. israel failed — the great hall ofjustice. israel failed it— the great hall ofjustice. israel failed. it failed to convince the court _ failed. it failed to convince the court to— failed. it failed to convince the court to convince the complaint to prove _ court to convince the complaint to prove that — court to convince the complaint to prove that it is not deliberately violating — prove that it is not deliberately violating genocide convention. the icj judges —
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violating genocide convention. the icj judges assessed the fact in the law and _ icj judges assessed the fact in the law and issued the order. israel now will stand _ law and issued the order. israel now will stand trial accused of committing the crime of all crimes. we call— committing the crime of all crimes. we call on — committing the crime of all crimes. we call on states to ensure that all provisional— we call on states to ensure that all provisional measures ordered by the court _ provisional measures ordered by the court are _ provisional measures ordered by the court are implemented. states and governments have clear obligations in tight— governments have clear obligations in light of— governments have clear obligations in light of this order. first and foremost, _ in light of this order. first and foremost, they must make sure they are not— foremost, they must make sure they are not complicit in this genocide. this is— are not complicit in this genocide. this is a _ are not complicit in this genocide. this is a good day for humanity. this— this is a good day for humanity. this ruling — this is a good day for humanity. this ruling is in favour of international system based on law and against exceptionalism and double — and against exceptionalism and double standards. it should be a world _ double standards. it should be a world cup— double standards. it should be a world cup call for israel and its neighbours. —— wake—up call. the state _ neighbours. —— wake—up call. the state of— neighbours. —— wake—up call. the state of had — neighbours. —— wake—up call. the state of had any endeavour to follow up state of had any endeavour to follow up on _ state of had any endeavour to follow up on this— state of had any endeavour to follow up on this important ruling by the court _ up on this important ruling by the court ensuring the rights of the patatine — court ensuring the rights of the palatine people. —— palestine people
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and with— palatine people. —— palestine people and with this conviction on the rule of law, _ and with this conviction on the rule of law, will— and with this conviction on the rule of law, will continue pursuing accountability and justice forms, including — accountability and justice forms, including in a few weeks' time when we return— including in a few weeks' time when we return here to the icj on the 19th _ we return here to the icj on the 19th of— we return here to the icj on the 19th of february for the other hearings _ 19th of february for the other hearings on israel's illegal occupation and regime inside the occupied — occupation and regime inside the occupied palestinian territory. there — occupied palestinian territory. there illegal occupation and apartheid regime must be brought to an end _ apartheid regime must be brought to an end. palestine will forever be grateful— an end. palestine will forever be grateful to south africa for taking this botd — grateful to south africa for taking this bold step of active solidarity, together— this bold step of active solidarity, together with peace—loving nations, we will _ together with peace—loving nations, we will continue to work to stop genocide, — we will continue to work to stop genocide, hold perpetrators to account— genocide, hold perpetrators to account and work to stop all other atrocities— account and work to stop all other atrocities against our people. just atrocities against our people. just a few— atrocities against our people. just a few words in arabic and i will continue — a few words in arabic and i will continue my statement and open the way for— continue my statement and open the
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way for questions. outside international court of justice in the hague there. we had a south africa's foreign minister saying that south africa stands with the palatine people. and that they consider this preliminary court ruling a victory for both south africa and for the palestinian people. let's go to our correspondent injohannesburg, correspondent in johannesburg, daniel de simone. correspondent injohannesburg, daniel de simone. we have had a statement from the south african government. can you talk us through the official response to this reading? the official response to this readina ? ~ ., the official response to this readina ? ~ . , the official response to this readinu? ~ . , ., ., reading? we have. it is along the lines that he _ reading? we have. it is along the lines that he had _ reading? we have. it is along the lines that he had from _ reading? we have. it is along the lines that he had from south - lines that he had from south africa's minister of international relations but there are other points in this. they welcome, as he had, the court order. they won't make the point that they say that third states, meaning other states that art in this case, is and south africa, are now a notice of the
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existence of a serious case of genocide against the palestinian people in gaza. the south african government therefore calls on other states and says they must act independently and immediately invent genocide by israel and to ensure that they are not themselves in violation of the genocide convention by helping israel. they call on other countries to stop funding and arming israel. so that is taking it on a bit because south africa is calling on other countries, you had a minister, the foreign minister, saying that israel has powerful friends. the south african government's statement says it hoped israel will comply with the order of the court but as he had the minister saying, she is not confident israel will. and therefore, she is calling on other countries that are closed israel, powerfulfriends on israel, she is calling on them to ensure that israel does comply.- she is calling on them to ensure that israel does comply. let's talk a bit more — that israel does comply. let's talk a bit more about _ that israel does comply. let's talk a bit more about that _ that israel does comply. let's talk a bit more about that because - that israel does comply. let's talk a bit more about that because on| a bit more about that because on paper, this case, south africa
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versus israel, south africa on the half of the palestinians, as it sees itself but really it is not as simple as that. both countries have friends in the corners. here are south africa working in this regard? who supported it in its legal case? there are a range of countries. various countries in the middle east, there were other countries throughout the islamic world. also countries in south america. with regard to israel, the british government expressed criticism of south africa's case. that is going to be very interesting now because the case that the court has said south africa has a plausible case, they have indicated provisional measures, they have asked israel to take steps to stop potential genocide in gaza and they didn't
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order a ceasefire, which is what south africa asked for but as you had to foreign minister saying, she will not expressed disappointment with the order, despite the lack of a call for a ceasefire. her view was that in order to comply with the measures that had been indicated, a ceasefire would actually be necessary because south africa's case is that the action that are taking place are genocidal, the actual military operation that is taking place. so how view is that in order to comply with the measures that are there, a ceasefire will be necessary anyway. but i think as you were saying, this does now set up a conflict, notjust between south africa and israel that between countries that have seen this case as meritless in countries that supported south africa's case. as we know, the court has not ruled on whether israel is committing genocide but it has said it has a plausible case and asked for these provisional measures. let’s plausible case and asked for these provisional measures.— plausible case and asked for these provisional measures. let's go live to the court _ provisional measures. let's go live
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to the court my — provisional measures. let's go live to the court my questions - provisional measures. let's go live to the court my questions are - provisional measures. let's go live | to the court my questions are being taken outside the court. questions being asked to the foreign minister. he has switched back to arabic. they were speaking in english a moment ago. we will come back to them if we can, at the opportunity arises. we did hear earlierfrom south africa's foreign minister, making it very clear that south africa is bringing this case on the half of the palestinian people. she made it very clear that south africa stands with the palestinian people in this case again south africa. —— against israel's up if you're justjoining us, the un's top court has confirmed that it has jurisdiction in the genocide case. the presiding judge, said the court would not throughout the case as israel had requested. we will be speaking shortly to someone from the israeli government first,
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