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welcome back. the british government has walked away from a post brexit trade deal with canada, after nearly two years of negotation. the uk also had concerns about the steep 245% import taxes canada has slapped on british cheese. it means, at least for now the uk's trading terms, with canada will be worse than when it was part of the eu. live to westminster, we can speak to political correspondent helen catt. dead and buried orjust on the back burner? fin dead and buried or “ust on the back burner? , h, burner? on pause, the uk government sa 5 burner? on pause, the uk government sa sit burner? on pause, the uk government sa s it sa s burner? on pause, the uk government says it says it's — burner? on pause, the uk government says it says it's open _ burner? on pause, the uk government says it says it's open to _ burner? on pause, the uk government says it says it's open to reopening - says it says it's open to reopening these trade talks but as he just pointed out, they have reached a bit of an impasse pointed out, they have reached a bit of an impasse of pointed out, they have reached a bit of an impasse of the pointed out, they have reached a bit of an impasse of the moment. pointed out, they have reached a bit of an impasse of the moment. canada wants the uk to lift its ban on hormone treated beef, and the uk has

concerns about the tariffs on cheese he did have a deal that rolled over after it left the eu, the uk dead, which expired at the end of december on cheese. there is a third thing, though, cars, does a similar deal in place of the moment for the one that was there for cheese, but that when expires in april, so now it looks like cars are heading for tariffs as well. ,, . ~ , , like cars are heading for tariffs as well. ,, w , , ., ., like cars are heading for tariffs as well. ,, , ., ., well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game. _ well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game. we — well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game, we just _ well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game, we just said - well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game, we just said we - well. quickly, it is not that easy, this game, we just said we are l well. quickly, it is not that easy, i this game, we just said we are not this game, wejust said we are not going to finish a deal that for the next election, and now canada. trade deals, we next election, and now canada. trade deals. we know _ next election, and now canada. trade deals, we know that _ next election, and now canada. trade deals, we know that they _ next election, and now canada. trade deals, we know that they take - next election, and now canada. t—rr deals, we know that they take time, and, of course, for so many years, of course, uk was covered under blanket deals as part of the year. now that it's going it alone, the government argues that it gives it benefits. what we see here with the candidate he is a brexit benefits, that it candidate he is a brexit benefits, thatitis candidate he is a brexit benefits, that it is able to finesse the details of any trade deal to best

suit the uk. but, of course, all of these things take time and they hit these things take time and they hit the start of impasse as we see here. thank you very much for that. before we pick this up, i'm just going to tell you that there is a verdict in the trump case in new york which we are expecting imminently. so we will talk up to vat about trade. but if i interrupt you, forgive me, we do want to go to that life. let's start with the trade deal issue. if it is no to hormone treated beef, doesn't that rule out a deal with the united states? in that rule out a deal with the united states? ., , , , �* ., states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned — states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned about _ states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned about the _ states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned about the fact - states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned about the fact that - states? in theory, yes, i'm more concerned about the fact that if l states? in theory, yes, i'm more i concerned about the fact that if you can't get a deal with the commonwealth nation, how are you going to cut a deal with us? the biden administration isn't really interested in a uk us steel. the backroom discussions need to start now, so if trump does when you can be ready to go. i listen to that report.

be ready to go. i listen to that re ort. ., ~' be ready to go. i listen to that reort. ., ~ ., , be ready to go. i listen to that reort. ., ~' ., , ., ., report. you think it would be one of the first things _ report. you think it would be one of the first things that _ report. you think it would be one of the first things that trump - report. you think it would be one of the first things that trump would i the first things that trump would want to look at, a deal with britain? i want to look at, a deal with britain? ~ ., want to look at, a deal with britain? ~ . . ., britain? i think we are much more interested as _ britain? i think we are much more interested as republicans - britain? i think we are much more interested as republicans in - britain? i think we are much more interested as republicans in a - britain? i think we are much more i interested as republicans in a freed trade deal then biden is. is to be held to the unions in this country to be able to negotiate any type of deal like that. your chances with the trump administration are much, much better than they are under biden. ., , , , ., biden. the government says this is a benefit of our _ biden. the government says this is a benefit of our independent _ biden. the government says this is a benefit of our independent trading i benefit of our independent trading status that we are able to insist on the detail of each and every deal to be sure that is specifically in british interests. i would push back on that and say that if you don't have the bolt of 28 pushing for a deal, you don't have that scale economies which forces a deal over the line. is that fair? i economies which forces a deal over the line. is that fair?— the line. is that fair? i agree with ou. i the line. is that fair? i agree with you- i voted _ the line. is that fair? i agree with you- i voted to — the line. is that fair? i agree with you. i voted to remain _ the line. is that fair? i agree with you. i voted to remain and - the line. is that fair? i agree with you. i voted to remain and i - you. i voted to remain and i remember— you. i voted to remain and i remember with _ you. i voted to remain and i remember with great - you. i voted to remain and i remember with great clarity you. i voted to remain and i - remember with great clarity the arguments that where made by brexiteers and that we didn't sure

that we _ brexiteers and that we didn't sure that we could make trade deals around — that we could make trade deals around the world, it would be in the british_ around the world, it would be in the british interests, and what we have discovered — british interests, and what we have discovered is that these are very difficult — discovered is that these are very difficult to — discovered is that these are very difficult to negotiate, two sides have _ difficult to negotiate, two sides have slightly opposing views, and as you say, _ have slightly opposing views, and as you say, the — have slightly opposing views, and as you say, the absolutely critical point, — you say, the absolutely critical point, the _ you say, the absolutely critical point, the uk's weiss has given huge additionai— point, the uk's weiss has given huge additional weight by being part of a block— additional weight by being part of a block with other european powers. —— uk's block with other european powers. —— uk's voice _ block with other european powers. —— uk's voice. even though we thought and people — uk's voice. even though we thought and people said during brexit that we were _ and people said during brexit that we were one of the most powerful and greatest _ we were one of the most powerful and greatest nations on earth. i think we are _ greatest nations on earth. i think we are a — greatest nations on earth. i think we are a great nation, but we are diminished — we are a great nation, but we are diminished by being outside the european union, and this dispute with canada, i think, is one of the many— with canada, i think, is one of the many ways— with canada, i think, is one of the many ways that this has been highlighted since the historical vote in— highlighted since the historical vote in 2016.— highlighted since the historical vote in 2016. , , ., , vote in 2016. listen, it is not 'ust british farmers, i vote in 2016. listen, it is not 'ust british farmers, the i vote in 2016. listen, it is not 'ust british farmers, the french h vote in 2016. listen, it is notjust i british farmers, the french farmers are added to come up locating all major routes into paris today. the finance

minister had been pressuring supermarkets to lower their prices. which of course hits the bottom line of the food producers. what is extraordinary is the scale and fury of the demonstrations that have spread from the south—west right across the whole country this week. the prime minister had to come out and meet them today. the farmers say supermarkets are steering the consumer away from french produce in the shops. and that has hit the smaller farmers and the organic farmers particularly hard. the reason i wanted to pick up on this is because we talked on the programme before about the green transition and the changes its bringing to society. a lot of farmers trying to meet their obligations to become organic farmers, it's a more expensive way to farm, and a finance minister in a different department saying, hey,

slash the prices, governments are going to have to be very wary about this, aren't they? it going to have to be very wary about this, aren't they?— this, aren't they? it is. it's easy to talk green _ this, aren't they? it is. it's easy to talk green agenda _ this, aren't they? it is. it's easy to talk green agenda and - this, aren't they? it is. it's easy - to talk green agenda and expensive to talk green agenda and expensive to implement it, a lot of folks go around saying at the green energy is great, organic farming is great, but when they find out how much it costs there is pushback. we're going an analogous situation right now with electric vehicles in this country. even with the heavy subsidies the biden administration have put on, people are pushing back. i said what is the organic demand for electric vehicles, there was no subsidy no start of political pressure, how many would you sell, they said zero, they are too expensive, people don't like them, there is pushback against them to me see the same thing in a different industry in france. you see the same thing in different industries across the globe. this is the green agenda come home to roost. we have talked about the rise of the far right in europe, there was a pull out that we reported on this week on the programme that nine

countries in europe, the hard right is going to top the polls and one of those things that is driving that is the cost of living crisis, the lack of growth, the lack ofjobs and we saw it a little bit, didn't we, and rails last week, you've got a green furnace that's being brought in to replace two blast furnaces, 3000 jobs go in the name of meeting targets, and natalie because at the green lash. she thinks that around europe right now there are people turning against this policy which is why the likes of rishi sunak is starting to just temper some of the language that he uses.— language that he uses. there is no doubt that we _ language that he uses. there is no doubt that we are _ language that he uses. there is no doubt that we are doing _ language that he uses. there is no | doubt that we are doing something, forgive _ doubt that we are doing something, forgive me — doubt that we are doing something, forgive me. that doubt that we are doing something, forrive me. . , ., ,, doubt that we are doing something, forgive me-_ we - doubt that we are doing something, forgive me._ we are | forgive me. that is for you. we are effectively- -- _ forgive me. that is for you. we are effectively... energy _ forgive me. that is for you. we are effectively... energy is _ forgive me. that is for you. we are effectively... energy is a _ effectively... energy is a fundamental agreement that drives all economic activity and we are in all economic activity and we are in a period _ all economic activity and we are in a period where we have not been in

for hundreds of years where we are trying _ for hundreds of years where we are trying to— for hundreds of years where we are trying to reinvent the energetic basis _ trying to reinvent the energetic basis the — trying to reinvent the energetic basis the main material place for civilisation — basis the main material place for civilisation are still built out of fossil— civilisation are still built out of fossil fields. civilisation are still built out of fossilfields. plastic, steel, ammonia, the haber bosch process. the farmers— ammonia, the haber bosch process. the farmers protest, the cost of living, _ the farmers protest, the cost of living, the — the farmers protest, the cost of living, the strikes, all of these are pixels— living, the strikes, all of these are pixels in the wider picture of what _ are pixels in the wider picture of what it— are pixels in the wider picture of what it means while you are seeking to do— what it means while you are seeking to do this _ what it means while you are seeking to do this. the mistake, the categorv_ to do this. the mistake, the category error is that we can continue _ category error is that we can continue with fossil fuels indefinitely. there are plenty of these _ indefinitely. there are plenty of these still left, and even if we forget — these still left, and even if we forget about climate change, which we shouldn't, their efficiency is declining — we shouldn't, their efficiency is declining. we're having to expend everrnore — declining. we're having to expend evermore energy to go into deep sea areas _ evermore energy to go into deep sea areas so— evermore energy to go into deep sea areas. so the amount of energy we areas. so the amount of energy we are getting — areas. so the amount of energy we are getting from fossil fields is in fundamental decline. so we do have

to reinvent— fundamental decline. so we do have to reinvent this is going to be a very— to reinvent this is going to be a very difficult period for every nation — very difficult period for every nation on _ very difficult period for every nation on earth and i think we're going _ nation on earth and i think we're going to — nation on earth and i think we're going to see evermore turbulence in the coming — going to see evermore turbulence in the coming years and decades can i have to _ the coming years and decades can i have to sav~ — the coming years and decades can i have to say. i the coming years and decades can i have to say-— have to say. i absolutely disagree. enerr have to say. i absolutely disagree. energy here _ have to say. i absolutely disagree. energy here is _ have to say. i absolutely disagree. energy here is cheap. _ have to say. i absolutely disagree. energy here is cheap. fracking - have to say. i absolutely disagree. energy here is cheap. fracking is l energy here is cheap. fracking is very efficient. one of the economic advantages my country has right now is we are exporting energy. we were burning off excess natural because it's so cheap. i fundamentally disagree with that. this is a decision we have made, you have made it more aggressively in europe then we have in the united states. it's a decision that many of the western countries have made that they are going to lower the standard of living of the citizenry in order to accommodate the green agenda, and it just looks like farmers have decided to push back today. who knows who is pushing back tomorrow. these are bill decisions governments have made. it's not the rise of the right wing, it's the rise of populists on both the right and left saying that the government is making decisions thatis the government is making decisions that is disconnecting it from the people. that is what i thank you are

seeing here. i don't think this has to do with the fundamental inefficiencies of energy. listen, i want to break away from that because people are seeing the courthouse in new york, and we do have a verdict. so let me read bits of this to you, i am reading it for the first time, so we will pick our way through it. thejury the first time, so we will pick our way through it. the jury finds macarthur proves she suffered more than nominal damages as a result of donald trump's 2019 denials. two or three. trump owes ejean carroll a total of $83.3 million in compensatory and punitive damages. that's the verdict. 83 million in competence and terry punitive damages. we are still waiting for our correspondent to come up from the court. and we will probably get some reaction from mr trim's lawyer who is expected outside the court shortly. give me your reaction to that. $83 million in compensated

damages. that. $83 million in compensated damares. , , ., that. $83 million in compensated damares. , damages. this is a bad thing for donald trump — damages. this is a bad thing for donald trump and _ damages. this is a bad thing for donald trump and a _ damages. this is a bad thing for donald trump and a good - damages. this is a bad thing for i donald trump and a good thing for donald trump and a good thing for donald trump. the man does not like spending money. he is going to be really, really upset about that dollarjudgment really, really upset about that dollar judgment attached really, really upset about that dollarjudgment attached to this. but you can fully expect them to take advantage of this politically. keepin take advantage of this politically. keep in mind what the charges are here. she accused him of sexual assault, he was found to have done that civilly, not criminally, but he continued to deny it. he said he didn't do it, i don't know the woman and she claimed that was defamation. there is more to the case, but that is the heart of the matter. you can imagine that donald trump is not going to take this and say, look, they arejust coming going to take this and say, look, they are just coming to get me. his entire campaign in 2024 is boiling down to a couple of sentences. look what they are doing to me. imagine if they could do it to me what they could do to you. vote for me and i will make sure that doesn't happen. that's taken in from 25% of the polls to about 50 right now in the gop primaries and it has put a wound

to the head ofjoe biden in the national election. i to the head of joe biden in the national election.— national election. i am 'ust reading the copy here h national election. i am 'ust reading the copy here from _ national election. i am just reading the copy here from reuters. - national election. i am just reading the copy here from reuters. this i national election. i am just reading j the copy here from reuters. this is the copy here from reuters. this is the first flash. one thing that perplexes me here is that ejean carroll had sought $10 million from donald trump over and above the 5 million that she was awarded in october over the sexual abuse case. so $83 million is way beyond what seems to me ejean carroll had been asking for publicly ahead of the trial. what has characterised the last few days of evidence that's been given is that donald trump continues to speak out loud in court, which clearly irritated the court. he continues to post on social media defaming things on social media defaming things on social media. it was much of the same language, he never met this woman, she was telling lies about him. i wonder if that is factored into the minds of the jury when they went away to deliberate because they've come back very quickly. they've only been out of the room may be a couple of hours.-

may be a couple of hours. it's a fascinating _ may be a couple of hours. it's a fascinating judgment _ may be a couple of hours. it's a fascinating judgment and - may be a couple of hours. it's a fascinating judgment and i - may be a couple of hours. it's a fascinating judgment and i don't doubt _ fascinating judgment and i don't doubt that trump will continue to defame _ doubt that trump will continue to defame the person in question, after the first— defame the person in question, after the first trial, he said it was a rigged — the first trial, he said it was a rigged deal. in other words what he sought— rigged deal. in other words what he sought to _ rigged deal. in other words what he sought to do was to undermine faith in the _ sought to do was to undermine faith in the rule _ sought to do was to undermine faith in the rule of law and the judicial system _ in the rule of law and the judicial system and the way that he sought to undermine _ system and the way that he sought to undermine faith in the democratic svstem _ undermine faith in the democratic system when he lost the election. i don't _ system when he lost the election. i don't think— system when he lost the election. i don't think he will stop, and i suspect— don't think he will stop, and i suspect it _ don't think he will stop, and i suspect it will continue to play into his — suspect it will continue to play into his hands at his base because the perception that he has created is that— the perception that he has created is that there is an attempt to thwart — is that there is an attempt to thwart his political aspirations there — thwart his political aspirations there what is perceived as a rigged le-al there what is perceived as a rigged legal system post up i don't think the the _ legal system post up i don't think the the system is in great shape. i don't _ the the system is in great shape. i don't think— the the system is in great shape. i don't think the uk legal system is in great _ don't think the uk legal system is in great shape. but it goes to further— in great shape. but it goes to further claim that the basic strokes of american civilisation are decaying before our eyes.

live now to north america corresponent — nada tawfik. i know you are rushing to your spot. help me but the point i wasjust making to the guys here, this idea that she had asked for $10 million and thejury had that she had asked for $10 million and the jury had awarded $83 million. how do you get to such a disparity in numbers?— disparity in numbers? well, christian. — disparity in numbers? well, christian, at _ disparity in numbers? well, christian, at the _ disparity in numbers? well, christian, at the start, - disparity in numbers? well, i christian, at the start, before disparity in numbers? well, - christian, at the start, before the trial began, this five day trial committee had originally asked for $10 million in what is called compensatory damages to basically compensate her for compensatory damages to basically compensate herfor an compensatory damages to basically compensate her for an emotional harm, for reputational harm, but at the end of the trial committee actually increased that to $24 million, asking for that after they put a reputational expert on the stand who gave evidence that said it would take 12 million, a campaign of getting others to talk about her in

a positive light and repeat with the president had set, for example, by some actual supporters, so she put the figure at about $12 billion to repair her reputation. —— 12 million. they thought she deserved 7.3 million for emotional harm, 11 for reputational harm, but the big number came from that punitive damage, they awarded 65,000,002 e jean carroll for punitive damages, and what that means is to get donald trump to pay to essentially punish them, to make an example of him, to convince him that it is too costly to keep continuing to defame her. in fact, during closing statements, e jean carroll's layers showed videos in courts, posts that show donald trump continuing to call ejean carroll a liar, even while this court case is under way, to say it was all a hoax, that he had never met her, that he would continue to

speak his mind because he denied any wrongdoing and what roberta kaplan, ejean wrongdoing and what roberta kaplan, e jean carroll's wrongdoing and what roberta kaplan, ejean carroll's lawyers told the jury ejean carroll's lawyers told the jury was that he is a billionaire. you have to make them stop. you have to make them pay. and the $65 million is what they considered a number that would be significant enoughin number that would be significant enough in nature to convince him at least to think twice before he continued to go down that road. now, christian, we will see if that is the case. he wasn't in court when this verdict was read out. he left. we saw earlier today that he stormed out of kurt when roberta kaplan said he had continue to lie. so donald trump has acted defiantly throughout all of this, him and his lawyers haven't been afraid to create... tested the judge whenever they cut. so it will be interesting to see how he reacts to this because this is quite a hefty amount of money to pat’- quite a hefty amount of money to pay. 83 point 3 million, far more

than a $5 million ejean carroll got last spring in the first defamation case. ~ ., , , , ., case. alongside this, he is facing a several fraud _ case. alongside this, he is facing a several fraud trial _ case. alongside this, he is facing a several fraud trial in _ case. alongside this, he is facing a several fraud trial in new- case. alongside this, he is facing a several fraud trial in new york, - case. alongside this, he is facing a | several fraud trial in new york, and they are looking for $350 million in damages. he put it with another 80 here. how much money on tap does the former president have? at what point does the start to become a major problem for him? does the start to become a ma'or problem for him?�* problem for him? yeah, it is interesting _ problem for him? yeah, it is interesting because - problem for him? yeah, it is interesting because these i problem for him? yeah, it is l interesting because these first problem for him? yeah, it is - interesting because these first few cases we are seeing in new york really hurts donald trump monetarily. they hurt him in a way that really matters to him. he has built up his organisation from he's always touted his personal wealth as always touted his personal wealth as a way to show that he is a winner and a fighter and can do the same thing for america. so here we have these two cases really hitting at that directly. now he is a billionaire, he has fallen down the

forbes billionaire list, but certainly he is still someone with quite a lot of assets, the question is how liquid is he? and if you start to have to pay up all of these findings, does that then lead him to have to liquidate assets to take other measures? a 12 lead him to have to take some difficult decisions perhaps. these are not light finds, these are major damages, and as you say, he is facing potentially far more significant damages and consequences in that civilfraud significant damages and consequences in that civil fraud trial relating to the trump organisation. i’zre in that civil fraud trial relating to the trump organisation. i've got to the trump organisation. i've got to let ou to the trump organisation. i've got to let you go. _ to the trump organisation. i've got to let you go, others _ to the trump organisation. i've got to let you go, others want - to the trump organisation. i've got to let you go, others want to - to the trump organisation. i've got to let you go, others want to piece j to let you go, others want to piece so thank you very much for that. help me with this appeal process you've been talking about. you know, he won't to be expected to pay up imminently. but the situation that he is facing right now, when you train it with what rudy giuliani is facing, $148 million in damages that

rudy giuliani was expecting to pay, how do americans deal with those sort of figures? if and when it comes to paying up, do they declare bankruptcy? how is it usually done? rudy giuliani has tried to declare bankruptcy because he simply doesn't have the money to pay the judgment. there is some question about whether they will be able to effectively work through that system or not. donald trump has the money to pay, he also has the money to fight, which may or giuliani does not have. you can't avoid it forever. if he loses all his appeals, he's going to have to pay this. as a system in this country called and execution of a judgment where you can ask to go and grab people's property at the very end of the process. the point is that donald trump is trying to be elected president before he gets to that point because then he will make the claim that they cannot execute a judgment against him while he is in the white house. it's the melding of

the white house. it's the melding of the civil, this is not a criminal case, a civil case and politicsjust like there's been a melding of the criminal cases in politics as well. he has been using small donations, campaignfunds to he has been using small donations, campaign funds to fight some of these legal cases. so that would tend to suggest that the liquidity might be an issue for him. he made the point of how strong the legal system is, some have questioned the act, of course, because he tests all the institutions, donald trump, but it seems as we go forward with the prosecutions, the 91 indictments, the fines that they are incurring that actually the legal process does catch up with people who flagrantly breached and break the rules. that is true. at the _ breached and break the rules. that is true. at the fundamental test of the legal— is true. at the fundamental test of the legal system is its legitimacy in the _ the legal system is its legitimacy in the eyes of those who are subject to its— in the eyes of those who are subject to its demands. what worries me is that trump, — to its demands. what worries me is that trump, i think if he has asked in the _

that trump, i think if he has asked in the interview in the future whether— in the interview in the future whether he had committed sexual assaults. — whether he had committed sexual assaults, he should be allowed to say no _ assaults, he should be allowed to say no if — assaults, he should be allowed to say no if he — assaults, he should be allowed to say no if he wishes to do so. but if there was— say no if he wishes to do so. but if there was faith in the judicial system, _ there was faith in the judicial system, people would hear that and dishelieve _ system, people would hear that and disbelieve him, they would say that an independent group of people, they listen to— an independent group of people, they listen to the evidence on both sides. — listen to the evidence on both sides, they come to an objective view— sides, they come to an objective view and — sides, they come to an objective view and therefore we are going to take the _ view and therefore we are going to take the view that trump is guilty and he _ take the view that trump is guilty and he is — take the view that trump is guilty and he is now lying. people in the united _ and he is now lying. people in the united states think it's a big deal to use _ united states think it's a big deal to use trump's words. it's been persecuted _ to use trump's words. it's been persecuted byjurists and judges who are democrats and therefore not able to look— are democrats and therefore not able to look at _ are democrats and therefore not able to look at the evidence objectively. that's_ to look at the evidence objectively. that's what i meant when he said that the _ that's what i meant when he said that the rule of law is injeopardy because — that the rule of law is injeopardy because these institutions rely in the end _ because these institutions rely in the end on— because these institutions rely in the end on public trust. the extent that that _ the end on public trust. the extent that that public trust begins to unravel— that that public trust begins to unravel becomes very difficult to enforce — unravel becomes very difficult to enforce fundamental bedrock ideals like the _ enforce fundamental bedrock ideals like the peaceful transfer of power and judicialjudgements. that

like the peaceful transfer of power and judicialjudgements._ like the peaceful transfer of power and judicial judgements. and judicial 'udgements. that is the oint that and judicialjudgements. that is the oint that a and judicialjudgements. that is the point that a lot _ and judicialjudgements. that is the point that a lot of _ and judicialjudgements. that is the point that a lot of donald _ and judicialjudgements. that is the point that a lot of donald trump - point that a lot of donald trump supporters would make that, look, he is no peregrine of virtue, but we all know that. the enormity of what he is facing in the number of trials that he's facing in the eyes of his supporters do bag questions of trust in the system. supporters do bag questions of trust in the system-— in the system. some of the charges arainst in the system. some of the charges against him — in the system. some of the charges against him are _ in the system. some of the charges against him are very serious. the i against him are very serious. the document case in florida is a serious matter although i don't think the remedy there is to put them injail, the charges against him related to january six are very serious. some of the other charges, as this one, strike some people is just being outrageous, and you have to ask yourself the question, would we be doing this if the person's name wasn't donald trump has keep in mind the first claim against him in new york, the stormy daniels trying to pay the hush money to the pawn star was so weak that even some democrats had to come to trump's defence in the media here saying that they thought the case was ill intended. he has used all of that to

his advantage, does it undermine faith in the system? it does. i'm losing some faith in the system and i am a conservative with a small sea. i want to believe in the institutions. i see what they are doing in this case, where he simply denied knowing the women are in the stormy daniels hush money case, i have to wonder if they aren't targeting in. ifi have to wonder if they aren't targeting in. if i am thinking that camille can rest assure that there are large spots of the make america great again wing of the party thinking the same thing. i great again wing of the party thinking the same thing. i think e jean carroll— thinking the same thing. i think e jean carroll is _ thinking the same thing. i think e jean carroll is about _ thinking the same thing. i think e jean carroll is about to _ thinking the same thing. i think e jean carroll is about to walk - jean carroll is about to walk through these doors. let's watch these pictures. it's worth, as we focus on the doors of the court there, just making the plaint, and i will stop you if she speaks, that's, you know, when you take on maga world like she has, you better be ready the whiplash that comes back on you. that's probably what the jury on you. that's probably what the jury is taking into mine. they are not going to say anything, i'm told.

the damages that they have awarded, when the president of the united states and all the force that comes with his campaign is at you, you are destroyed and even your security is put at risk. it destroyed and even your security is ut at risk. , ., ., destroyed and even your security is put at risk-— put at risk. it is one of the great scourres put at risk. it is one of the great scourges of _ put at risk. it is one of the great scourges of the modern - put at risk. it is one of the great scourges of the modern media i put at risk. it is one of the great i scourges of the modern media age that when you inflame the wrath of one of these echo chambers, one of these tribal ideological groups, it can be vicious. that was true for the certified who backed the election results, the maga posse came in against them. viciously. just a wave from her there. what's also extraordinary about trump's reaction this week is that he continues to attack her untruth social. he continues... he says he's never met her, he doesn't know who

this woman is, but yet there is a photograph of him standing next to her and he's already been found liable by a civil court of sexual abuse but he continues to hold to the same line. is he not at risk of defaming herfurther? the same line. is he not at risk of defaming her further?— the same line. is he not at risk of defaming her further? yes, he is. but ou defaming her further? yes, he is. itut you are _ defaming her further? yes, he is. but you are not _ defaming her further? yes, he is. but you are not going _ defaming her further? yes, he is. but you are not going to - defaming her further? yes, he is. but you are not going to change i but you are not going to change donald trump. we will go back to my comments saying he was so conciliatory in iowa. donald trump is going to continue to be donald trump. i do not expect them to change his behaviour at all because of thisjudgment. but change his behaviour at all because of this judgment.— of this 'udgment. but what he will ret of thisjudgment. but what he will ret from of thisjudgment. but what he will get from this _ of thisjudgment. but what he will get from this and _ of thisjudgment. but what he will get from this and it's _ of thisjudgment. but what he will get from this and it's to _ of thisjudgment. but what he will get from this and it's to your - get from this and it's to your earlier point about the way people perceive this presumably is another bump in the polls.— bump in the polls. probably, more than likely- _ bump in the polls. probably, more than likely. there _ bump in the polls. probably, more than likely. there is _ bump in the polls. probably, more than likely. there is no _ bump in the polls. probably, more than likely. there is no one - bump in the polls. probably, more than likely. there is no one out. than likely. there is no one out there going i was going to vote for donald trump but now that he's been found liable in a civil case for defamation, i'm not voting for him any more. that has zero negative impact on him and politically and it may even have a positive impact at the end of the day. fine

may even have a positive impact at the end of the day.— may even have a positive impact at the end of the day. one of the risks is that when — the end of the day. one of the risks is that when you _ the end of the day. one of the risks is that when you look at _ the end of the day. one of the risks is that when you look at the - is that when you look at the resulting new hampshire is that he doesn't do well with independents and moderates, but specifically with suburban women. and here he is in the last week or so getting highly irritated with nikki haley picking on the dress that she is wearing, and now this right off the back of it, a woman who has accused him of sexual abuse, it, a woman who has accused him of sexualabuse, has it, a woman who has accused him of sexual abuse, has won her case for sexual abuse, has won her case for sexual abuse, has won her case for sexual abuse and now defamation. that elect charlie cannot work very well for the former president, candidates?— well for the former president, candidates? �* , ., ., candidates? i've been hearing that an ument candidates? i've been hearing that argument for— candidates? i've been hearing that argument for most _ candidates? i've been hearing that argument for most of _ candidates? i've been hearing that argument for most of the - candidates? i've been hearing that argument for most of the last - candidates? i've been hearing that argument for most of the last 18 i argument for most of the last 18 months. argument for most of the last 18 months- the _ argument for most of the last 18 months. the cumulative - argument for most of the last 18 months. the cumulative effect i argument for most of the last 18 | months. the cumulative effect of these _ months. the cumulative effect of these legal cases well effectively, in the _ these legal cases well effectively, in the end, tell against trump. just completely— in the end, tell against trump. just completely defied that logic. i would — completely defied that logic. i would be surprised if this does lead to a dip _ would be surprised if this does lead to a dip in _ would be surprised if this does lead to a dip in his popularity. i think he is _ to a dip in his popularity. i think he is searching, i regret this fact can he _ he is searching, i regret this fact can he a — he is searching, i regret this fact can be a surgeon to the republican nomination, and i think ofjoe biden doesn't _ nomination, and i think ofjoe biden doesn't have the courage to stand

aside, _ doesn't have the courage to stand aside, he — doesn't have the courage to stand aside, he will win the presidency with vast— aside, he will win the presidency with vast historic implications for the whole of the world. he with vast historic implications for the whole of the world.— with vast historic implications for the whole of the world. he made the oint the whole of the world. he made the point earlier— the whole of the world. he made the point earlier in _ the whole of the world. he made the point earlier in the _ the whole of the world. he made the point earlier in the week _ the whole of the world. he made the point earlier in the week saying - the whole of the world. he made the point earlier in the week saying the i point earlier in the week saying the biggest challenge he has as many back those who didn't vote for him in 2020. you can certainly win the election, the primary election with your supporters, election, the primary election with yoursupporters, but election, the primary election with your supporters, but you do need the liberals, you do need to moderates to come on board in a general election and ijust to come on board in a general election and i just wonder to come on board in a general election and ijust wonder if to come on board in a general election and i just wonder if this does harm him in that respect. ordinarily what you said is the gods gospel in the united states of america when it comes to politics. you have to in the middle. right now joe biden is so weak that there might be an exception this year. a lot of folks who came out to vote against donald trump, and nobody voted forjoe biden four years ago, they voted for or against donald trump. you have to imagine there will be some people who voted for joe biden last i would say to themselves, you know what, ijust can't vote for him again. he's too

old, he's too limited, does he have dementia? maybe theyjust don't vote. very few people switch back and forth between parties in this country. people usually express their opposition to the candidates by not voting, and that is what donald trump is counting on, that his people show up and joe biden's do not. i do not think he was a donald trump reach out to people in the middle because i don't think he can reach them. aha, the middle because i don't think he can reach them.— can reach them. a quick response from donald _ can reach them. a quick response from donald trump _ can reach them. a quick response from donald trump untruths - can reach them. a quick response i from donald trump untruths social. absolutely with tickets, fully disagree with both verdicts. this is not america. i thank you up to both guests this evening. lovely to have your company and we will be back at the same time next week. we hope you willjoin us for that. good night. i'm in washington and this is bbc world news america. donald trump is ordered to pay more than $83 million in damages for defamation in the case brought by writer e jean carroll. the un's highest court rules that

israel must take all measures to prevent genocidal acts in gaza. but stops short of calling for an immediate ceasefire. the us suspends funding to the un agency for palestinian refugees — over allegations of some of its staff took part in the october 7th attacks. welcome to world news america. we begin with breaking news on donald trump's defamation case. a new yorkjury has ordered the former president to pay more than 83 million dollars in damages to the writer ejean carroll. a new yorkjury has decided the former president must pay ejean carroll $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages. that's a total $83.3 million

that the former us president must pay.