a big rise in the number of illegal vapes being seized at uk ports and airports, with four times more being found last year compared to 2022. a warning over the growing number of young children using skincare products — dermatologists warn they're putting themselves at risk of irreversible skin problems. in sport, huge boots to fill at liverpool as the search begins for a new manager, following yurgen klopp�*s shock announcement, that he will be leaving liverpool at the end of the season. it isa it is a dry weekend for most. a bit of sunshine — it is a dry weekend for most. a bit of sunshine out there as well and it is mild _ of sunshine out there as well and it is mild all— of sunshine out there as well and it is mild. all the details shortly. it's saturday the 27th of january. our main story: donald trump has been ordered to pay more than $83 million in damages — that's around £65 million — for defaming the writer

e jean carroll while he was president. he had rubbished her claim that he sexually assaulted her in the 1990s. mr trump, who walked out of court during the hearing, later dismissed the verdict as ridiculous and politically motivated, and said he plans to appeal. our new york correspondent nada tawfik has the story. ejean e jean carroll ejean carroll has now taken on donald trump twice in court. both times emerging victorious. last may, he was found liable for sexual abuse and information in order to pay her $5 million in damages. the second defamation trial looks set to cost him far more, $83 million. donald trump was not present when the verdict was read and earlier he stormed out of court when ejean carroll's lawyer was delivering her closing statement, arguing the former president acted as if the law did not apply to him. afterward he slammed the verdict on social media

is absolutely ridiculous as an a politically motivated witch—hunt directed by president biden. irate politically motivated witch-hunt directed by president biden. we will immediately — directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. _ directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. we _ directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. we will - directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. we will set - immediately appeal. we will set aside that ridiculous and i want to remind you of one thing, i will continue to fight for everyone's right to defend themselves when they are wrongfully accused and to be able to say i did not do it! donald trump has _ able to say i did not do it! donald trump has repeatedly _ able to say i did not do it! donald trump has repeatedly denied - able to say i did not do it! donald i trump has repeatedly denied raping the former columnist in a department store in the 90s. ejean carroll's was submitted evidence and posts where trump continued to defame her while the trial was taking place. i while the trial was taking place. i have no idea who she is, where she came from. this is another scam. it is a political witch—hunt. the damages awarded to ejean carroll were far more than the 2a million she asked for and signalled the jury agreed for lawyer that only a large

sum would urge him to stop. ejean carroll described the verdict is a victory for every woman who stands up victory for every woman who stands up when she has been knocked down and a huge defeat for every bully who has tried to keep a woman down. donald trump is plenty of upcoming trials where he faces a total of 91 felony counts and the threat ofjail time but so far it has not dented his chances of becoming the republican presidential nominee, quite the opposite, it has energised his base. nada tawfik, bbc news. that is our main story but we are also looking at the rise in illegal vapours. also looking at the rise in illegal vaours. . �* , the number of illegal vapes seized at uk ports and airports surged last year, according to figures released by uk border force. the government is expected to announce new controls on vapes, with some reports saying they're considering an outright ban on disposables.

ben king has more. the number of people vaping has surged in recent years, driven by a rush of disposable vapours from china. but many are illegal because they do not meet uk regulations, like these ones are seized by trading standards. figures released to the bbc show how the number of illegal vapours seized at airports and ports has risen from less than 5000 in 2021 to less than just under a million in 2022 to 11.5 million in the first half of the year. i bought this one online and both have the allowed amount of nicotine liquid and that means they do not meet uk regulations that would not have been through stringent safety checks and you cannot be quite sure what is in them. last year the government allocated £3 million to help sniff out illegal vapours and underage

sales. an announcement of further restrictions is expected next week. perhaps even a ban on disposables. the illegal market would bloom because they are such an important part of the market and are ready we know that trading standards and customs are having problems dealing with illegal vapours so they would have a much biggerjob to do. for have a much bigger “0b to do. for eve one have a much biggerjob to do. for everyone the authorities says, many more go undetected. getting illegal vapours of the threat will not be an easy task. ben king, bbc news. an oil tanker has been set on fire after a strike by houthi fighters off the coast of yemen. no injuries were reported and the ship is receiving assistance from the us navy. the uk government says britain and its allies reserve the right to respond appropriately. the head of the cia is expected to meet with officials from israel, egypt and qatar in the coming days, in an attempt to negotiate the release of hostages held by hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the uk. the proposed release would be in exchange for a temporary halt

in hostilities in gaza. two malaysian men have been sentenced 23 years at guantanamo bay for their role in the 2002 bali bombings. but the men will only have to serve six years in prison, after pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors. more than 200 people were killed in the attacks, including 28 british people. commemorations will take place later for holocaust memorial day, which remembers the six million jewish people who were murdered by the nazis during the second world war, but safety concerns related to a rise in antisemitic attacks mean this year's events are set to be more muted. 0ur religion editor, aleem maqbool, has the story. the holocaust robbed drone of many memories of her extended family. today in particular she remembers them. the bravery of her mother she

survived. mi; them. the bravery of her mother she survived. ~ , ., them. the bravery of her mother she survived. g ., . , ., survived. my mother climbed over the mountains into _ survived. my mother climbed over the mountains into spain _ survived. my mother climbed over the mountains into spain and _ survived. my mother climbed over the mountains into spain and then - survived. my mother climbed over the mountains into spain and then gave i mountains into spain and then gave me up in the hope that i would survive and that is where prejudice gets here. survive and that is where pre'udice nets here. , ., ., , �* gets here. little giant wasn't shi ed gets here. little giant wasn't shipped to — gets here. little giant wasn't shipped to the _ gets here. little giant wasn't shipped to the us _ gets here. little giant wasn't shipped to the us until - gets here. little giant wasn't shipped to the us until the i gets here. little giant wasn't l shipped to the us until the war gets here. little giant wasn't - shipped to the us until the war was over she was reunited with a parent in the uk. she says she feels the lessons of the holocaust have not yet been —— littlejoan. it is lessons of the holocaust have not yet been -- little joan.— yet been -- little joan. it is 'ust to net yet been -- little joan. it is 'ust to get fl yet been -- little joan. it is 'ust to get over what i yet been -- little joan. it is 'ust to get over what hatred i yet been -- little joan. it isjust to get over what hatred does i yet been -- little joan. it isjust. to get over what hatred does and yet been -- little joan. it isjust - to get over what hatred does and how quickly people turn on each other. that to me is the message of holocaust memorial day and the hope is that people will understand that. holocaust memorial day has been established to commemorate the 6 million jews established to commemorate the 6 millionjews murdered by the nazis but also the victims of genocide since. a special focus on the

rwanda, 2024 marking 30 years since the horrific massacres of hundreds of thousands of tutsis there. earlier this week, referring to the case against israel at international court ofjustice, the chief rabbi of the uk says the accusation is an affront to the victims and survivors of the holocaust on holocaust memorial day. and the conflict in gaza and associated widen anti—semitism has meant there were fewer public events this year. particularly the jewish community but also muslims are much more anxious about being out in public and physically being jewish or muslim so we have worked closely with the police to issue guidance and actually ourjob on holocaust

memorial day is to remind people of what can happen when hatred gets out of hand. the what can happen when hatred gets out of hand. ., ., , ~ ., ., what can happen when hatred gets out ofhand. ., , ~ ., ., of hand. the holocaust memorial day trust is encouraging _ of hand. the holocaust memorial day trust is encouraging people _ of hand. the holocaust memorial day trust is encouraging people to - of hand. the holocaust memorial day trust is encouraging people to light i trust is encouraging people to light a candle and place it in a window to in its words remember those who were killed for who they were and to stand against prejudice and hatred today. aleem maqbool, bbc news. the king has spent the night in hospital after receiving treatment for an enlarged prostate. the procedure was carried out at the london clinic private hospital. 0ur reporter nickjohnson is there. we know king charles is there and we know a little bit about the procedure itself. what else can you tell us this morning? what procedure itself. what else can you tell us this morning?— tell us this morning? what we do know is that _ tell us this morning? what we do know is that he _ tell us this morning? what we do know is that he was _ tell us this morning? what we do know is that he was admitted - tell us this morning? what we do | know is that he was admitted here yesterday morning. he has now undergone that procedure for an enlarged prostate and he spent the

night here as was planned. buckingham palace say they expect him to spend at least one night here. queen camilla accompanied the king yesterday morning. she was seen leaving yesterday afternoon, after having told people inside that the king was doing very well. this is a relatively small private clinic in the highly street area of central london but one which is going for two very senior royals come one being the king and the other his daughter—in—law, kate, princess of wales. she has undergone abdominal surgery and we know the king visited her inside before undergoing his own treatment. when the princess of wales is discharged, we know her recovery period will be several months but as far as the king goes, his situation is not significant enough to require any sort of constitutional changes for his role as head of state. we know the king wanted to make his condition, his

diagnosis public, in order to encourage other men to come forward and get their prostates checked and nhs england says that has been a huge upsurge in a number of people visiting the relevant sections of its website since the king's announcement and that is something welcomed by doctors, charity and by the king himself who says he is delighted his diagnosis has had such a positive impact on public health awareness. a positive impact on public health awareness-— a positive impact on public health awareness. w ., ., awareness. nick, for the moment, thank ou awareness. nick, for the moment, thank you very _ awareness. nick, for the moment, thank you very much. _ the world's biggest cruise ship, royal caribbean's icon of the seas, will set sailfrom miami later, on its maiden voyage. the 250,000 ton ship took 900 days to build and cost £1.5 billion. the numbers do not do itjustice. it is huge. it will house the world's first suspended infinity pool at sea as well as the ocean's largest—ever water park and has the capacity to carry

nearly 8,000 people. we got a glimpse of it there. it is a small town. it is a big town. incredible. no other guarantee but, simon, i think it is looking all right this weekend? for simon, i think it is looking all right this weekend?— simon, i think it is looking all right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad — right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at _ right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at all. _ right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at all. it _ right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at all. it was _ right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at all. it was a - right this weekend? for most of us. not too bad at all. it was a bit - not too bad at all. it was a bit chilly yesterday but milder as we go through the weekend. if you have any plans this weekend, lots of usable weather as we say. it will turn mild. saying that, it is quite chilly this morning in the southeast of england. clear skies. lots of fine, dry weather across much of europe. weather fronts across the atlantic bringing some cloud to northern and western areas and a strengthening wind. and it is here we will see some rain through the today. one or two showers in northern ireland.

for most of us dry and sunny spell so many into the afternoon. maximum temperatures typically up to eight or10 temperatures typically up to eight or 10 celsius. through this evening and tonight, we will still see the rain across the north of scotland and perhaps western scotland for a time we will see it. clear skies towards the south and east. not as cold tonight. the milder weather towards the north and west. this is a big area of high pressure over europe keeping things relatively settled. weatherfronts europe keeping things relatively settled. weather fronts to the west. a southerly southwesterly wind drawing and the milder but cold front will move it self further closer to scotland as we go through sunday and the winter strengthening. elsewhere, for sunday, dry and again some sunny spells. those

temperatures 10— 13 celsius but the rain turning heavier as we go through the day. 0nto next week and that weather front will gradually move its way further west. / south. high—pressure acting as a barrier. this system will make slow if any progress down towards the southeast. it will stick around wales, northern england, southern scotland. we could see a spell of snow for the southern uplands. temperatures, 7— nine celsius with the cold air moving much of england and wales, temperatures 13 perhaps 14 celsius on monday afternoon. incredibly mild afternoon with temperatures above the average. by choosing, the weather front disappearing. going into the area of high pressure so things looking settled again on tuesday with plenty of dry and bright weather around. still a

little chillier towards northern and western areas. for the rest of the week, temperatures remain at or around the average, a bit above the average, really, lots of dry weather around actually through the rest of the week and some sunny spells at times as well. for most of us, it is looking dry with a bit of sunshine at times and mild.— looking dry with a bit of sunshine at times and mild. thank you, simon. en'o it if at times and mild. thank you, simon. enjoy it if you're _ at times and mild. thank you, simon. enjoy it if you're heading _ at times and mild. thank you, simon. enjoy it if you're heading out - at times and mild. thank you, simon. enjoy it if you're heading out and - enjoy it if you're heading out and about. skincare is big business in the uk but there is growing concern among dermatologists about children as young as eight using anti—aging products intended for adults. they often contain active ingredients like exfoliating acids and have become increasingly popular with kids as a result of social media. annabel rackham reports. eight—year—old sadie says she first came across videos of influences doing skincare retains a couple of months ago. she saw products being

advertised on tiktok and tube shorts and asked family members to buy them for her as presence. what is that you love about skincare?- you love about skincare? mostly about the packaging. _ you love about skincare? mostly about the packaging. because i | you love about skincare? mostly i about the packaging. because i like all the colours on it and, like, the labels. ., ., , ., , labels. how does it all gets laid out? what _ labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do _ labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do you _ labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do you do? - labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do you do? i - labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do you do? ijust - labels. how does it all gets laid out? what do you do? ijust do | labels. how does it all gets laid - out? what do you do? ijust do like out? what do you do? i 'ust do like the biggest — out? what do you do? i 'ust do like the biggest to the h out? what do you do? ijust do like the biggest to the smallest. - out? what do you do? ijust do like the biggest to the smallest. so, i the biggest to the smallest. so, like, washing my face is the biggest thing and then lip balm is the smallest thing. and then, this is... that skin specialists say they are worried about what ingredients are in some of the products that are most popular with children. i have you stopped using some of the products? you stopped using some of the troducts? ~ �* , you stopped using some of the troducts? . �*, , , you stopped using some of the troducts? �*, , , �* ., products? well, it's because i'm a bit ount products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and _ products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and i— products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and i know _ products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and i know that - products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and i know that my - products? well, it's because i'm a bit young and i know that my face | products? well, it's because i'm a i bit young and i know that my face is a bit young and sometimes, it hurts. how does it hurt?—

how does it hurt? like, stinging. beauty stores — how does it hurt? like, stinging. beauty stores across _ how does it hurt? like, stinging. beauty stores across the - how does it hurt? like, stinging. beauty stores across the country| beauty stores across the country stock these products. there is no age limit on buying them and they are freely available on shelves but with many parents going in to buy them on behalf of the children, it is hard to get the message across that they are not suitable for them. some of the most popular products with children contain anti ingredients such as exfoliating acids and retinol. we met with the dermatologist to learn more about the effects of these may have on young skin. iiii the effects of these may have on young skin-— young skin. if it is cosmetic it will have _ young skin. if it is cosmetic it will have to _ young skin. if it is cosmetic it will have to have _ young skin. if it is cosmetic it will have to have low - young skin. if it is cosmetic it will have to have low levels i young skin. if it is cosmetic it| will have to have low levels of anything, these are anti—ageing so they exfoliate and they may be suitable for older but not young young people who do not need to use them. they can cause irritation whichever age you are but clearly for younger skin, whichever age you are but clearly foryoungerskin, it whichever age you are but clearly for younger skin, it can be potentially dangerous or problematic.— potentially dangerous or troblematic. ., ., , potentially dangerous or troblematic. ., ., problematic. one of the most popular brands with young _ problematic. one of the most popular brands with young people, _ problematic. one of the most popular brands with young people, drunk - brands with young people, drunk elephant, have released a statement advising kids and tweens to stay away from the products that contain acids and retinol. a lot of the

policing is falling on parent one's mum who are having to educate themselves about the products contain. i themselves about the products contain. , ., , , ,, themselves about the products contain. , ~ contain. i stopped the tiktok part because that's _ contain. i stopped the tiktok part because that's easy _ contain. i stopped the tiktok part because that's easy to _ contain. i stopped the tiktok part because that's easy to police - because that's easy to police because that's easy to police because you shouldn't be there under 13 anyway. in a lot of these videos is hidden things of the product rather than displaying it so it is cleverly done so that people are seeing it but not thinking they are, and it's in everything that is on there. every bdo now she is watching has some kind of skincare. the youngest child, sadie, is eight and i did not think i would have to worry about her doing skincare and policing skincare at this age. i feel like they grow up so quickly anyway and it feels like her childhood has been taken away and she is all of a sudden a teenager looking at skincare when she doesn't have to do. . , looking at skincare when she doesn't have to do. , ~ ., , looking at skincare when she doesn't have to do. , ~' ., , ., have to do. lucy, like many other tarents, have to do. lucy, like many other parents. having — have to do. lucy, like many other parents, having retailers- have to do. lucy, like many other parents, having retailers and - have to do. lucy, like many other. parents, having retailers and brands do more to stop products that are not designed for children from getting into the wrong hands. annabel rackham, bbc news.

we will talk more about that story later in the programme with a dermatologist with us in the studio. if you have any specific questions, get in touch, we will try to put them to her. it's saturday morning. let's take a look at today's papers. the daily telegraph reports that the united states is moving its nuclear weapons back to the uk. the paper says it has seen documents from the pentagon which say the warheads will be stationed in the country for the first time in 15 years. the times is leading on calls for an inquiry into the killings of three people in nottingham in june last year. barnaby webber, grace 0'malley—kumar and ian coates were stabbed to death by valdo calocane who, it has since been revealed, was already wanted by police. the daily mail's front page shows what it calls the "undisguised "relief" in the queen's smile as she left the hospital following king charles' prostate procedure. the paper says she "insisted on being by her husband's side" as he was admitted for surgery. and the daily mirror's headline this morning reads "klopp shock" after liverpool managerjurgen klopp announced he will leave the team

at the end of the season. a huge surprise, even to people who are well connected with the club. more reaction to that later. the daily mirror's front page also had the winner of last night's traitors which i will not specifically talk about now but we will be talking about now but we will be talking about traitors later and i'm excited to say have the finalist coming on this morning. it was absolutely unbelievable last night. i feel almost traumatised having been through that whole experience and watching it from the start, charlie. i know you watched it as well but you are a late adopter.— i know you watched it as well but you are a late adopter. morning is out there. — you are a late adopter. morning is out there. very — you are a late adopter. morning is out there, very early. _ you are a late adopter. morning is out there, very early. what - you are a late adopter. morning is out there, very early. what time? j out there, very early. what time? 8:50 am. �* , ., , out there, very early. what time? 8:50am. n . , ., , out there, very early. what time? 8:50am. n . y ., , ., 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it — 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it was _ 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it was so _ 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it was so good! - 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it was so good! it - 8:50 am. it's a very early warning at 6:20! it was so good! it was i 8:50 am. it's a very early warning

at 6:20! it was so good! it was soj at 6:20! it was so good! it was so tood! do at 6:20! it was so good! it was so good! do you — at 6:20! it was so good! it was so good! do you think— at 6:20! it was so good! it was so good! do you think a _ at 6:20! it was so good! it was so good! do you think a lot - at 6:20! it was so good! it was so good! do you think a lot of - at 6:20! it was so good! it was so| good! do you think a lot of people do not watch _ good! do you think a lot of people do not watch it _ good! do you think a lot of people do not watch it live? _ good! do you think a lot of people do not watch it live? i _ good! do you think a lot of people do not watch it live? i would - good! do you think a lot of people do not watch it live? i would have| do not watch it live? i would have thought, because it's one of those... ~ , .,, thought, because it's one of those- - -_ thought, because it's one of those... ~ , ., , those... think people have caught up with it as the — those... think people have caught up with it as the series _ those... think people have caught up with it as the series have _ those... think people have caught up with it as the series have started - with it as the series have started and have watched it on catch up and i think a of people probably if they were invested would watch it last night because they were showing in pubs around the country with crowds of people gathered around the screens. it's nuts! fin of people gathered around the screens. it's nuts!— of people gathered around the screens. it's nuts! on the sub'ect ofl int screens. it's nuts! on the sub'ect of tying in — screens. it's nuts! on the sub'ect of tying in the fi screens. it's nuts! on the sub'ect of lying in the times i screens. it's nuts! on the sub'ect of lying in the times this i screens. it's nuts! on the subject| of lying in the times this morning one of their reporters matt tayfun, you wonder because it's about lying, it's all about lying, and one of those questions you asked yourself how would you fare if you did i'll lie detector, could you trick them and he has done this as an experiment and i didn't know this. -- matt experiment and i didn't know this. —— matt dathan. they strip you into these things that register your body's reaction and there is a whiteboard in front of which six numbers are written, and all were black except number four which is scrawled in red and were asked

interned by a computer voice what colour is it? you have to say what the colour is —— asked in turn. you have to lie about number four. and he thought he could probably block it and say the same thing as i have and of course, he lied and the machine caught him out and his body reacted differently. into! the data is reacted differently. no! the data is converted into a signal and he failed the test and i think instinctively, you think you can probably do it. i instinctively, you think you can probably do it.— instinctively, you think you can trobabl do it. ., ., probably do it. i have never thought that a lie detector— probably do it. i have never thought that a lie detector test _ probably do it. i have never thought that a lie detector test was - that a lie detector test was foolproof presumably, it is not absolutely, that suggests they may be more reliable than you would think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 — think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 am. _ think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 am. this _ think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 am. this guy... - think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 am. this guy... did - think. are you a good liar? the time now is 6:29 am. this guy... did not| now is 6:29 am. this guy... did not even tet now is 6:29 am. this guy... did not even get it- — he is a football and broadcasting legend but chris kamara, who played for nine different clubs as a player before becoming one of the uk's most recognisable pundits, long hid a secret. chris suffers from apraxia, a chronic condition which affects his speech. stuart whincup spoke with him

about the challenges of the condition and the impact of a transformative new treatment. he has been a player, a manager and a pundit, one of football popko biggest characters.— biggest characters. surprise, sur . rise! biggest characters. surprise, surprise! you _ biggest characters. surprise, surprise! you are _ biggest characters. surprise, surprise! you are not - biggest characters. surprise, surprise! you are not going l biggest characters. surprise, | surprise! you are not going to believe this! but surprise! you are not going to believe this!— surprise! you are not going to believe this! �* ., ., believe this! but at the height of his fame he _ believe this! but at the height of his fame he started _ believe this! but at the height of his fame he started to _ believe this! but at the height of his fame he started to struggle i believe this! but at the height of. his fame he started to struggle with his fame he started to struggle with his speech and spend more time alone and only talked in soundbites. for a long time, he hid his illness from everyone. long time, he hid his illness from eve one. ., ., �* ., ., , everyone. you don't want to believe that something _ everyone. you don't want to believe that something is _ everyone. you don't want to believe that something is happening - everyone. you don't want to believe that something is happening to - everyone. you don't want to believe j that something is happening to you. i should have firstly told my wife and then my family. by holding it to myself and keeping it in the brain, the mental side of it was ruining my head. fist the mental side of it was ruining my head. �* ., , .,

head. at the time, i read, you felt wrongfully — head. at the time, i read, you felt wrongfully embarrassed _ head. at the time, i read, you felt wrongfully embarrassed and - head. at the time, i read, you felt - wrongfully embarrassed and ashamed? i was. and that was the thing. how can i broadcast when i have a speech problem? we can't talk properly. it would affect myjob. i was a barrister, and —— i was embarrassed and ashamed and i apologise now to everybody who has got a speech condition. i saw a therapist and he said the day you accept your condition is the day you start healing, and it was so true. last ear, he healing, and it was so true. last year. he went — healing, and it was so true. last year, he went to _ healing, and it was so true. last year, he went to mexico for groundbreaking medical treatment that had never been used for people with speech a proxy. == that had never been used for people with speech a proxy.— with speech a proxy. -- apraxia. it's like radio _ with speech a proxy. -- apraxia. it's like radio waves _ with speech a proxy. -- apraxia. it's like radio waves into - with speech a proxy. -- apraxia. it's like radio waves into your. it's like radio waves into your brain and i can honestly say well, you can hear now, i have the fluency back. maybe i have not got the speed

back. maybe i have not got the speed back. i was the guinea pig as far as apraxia is concerned and it's obviously worked, so that's the reason why i'm going back. you are ttoin to reason why i'm going back. you are going to go — reason why i'm going back. you are going to go back— reason why i'm going back. you are going to go back next _ reason why i'm going back. you are going to go back next month? - reason why i'm going back. you are going to go back next month? yes, j going to go back next month? yes, ho tefull going to go back next month? yes, hopefully in — going to go back next month? yes, hopefully in february. _ going to go back next month? yes, hopefully in february. as _ going to go back next month? yes, hopefully in february. as you - going to go back next month? yes, hopefully in february. as you say, l hopefully in february. as you say, ou have hopefully in february. as you say, you have campaigned _ hopefully in february. as you say, you have campaigned now- hopefully in february. as you say, you have campaigned now for- hopefully in february. as you say, l you have campaigned now for more particularly children not getting the support, the treatment they need. how important is that to you? i had loads of help to help me. i got the opportunity with my profile to help other people. i was getting letters and e—mails, saying that we had an appointment when he was four years old and we have had nothing since. he is seven years old now. i will start with the children first and hopefully get onto the adults later. ., ., ., later. part of that campaigning, our later. part of that campaigning, your charity _ later. part of that campaigning,

your charity work, _ later. part of that campaigning, your charity work, your - later. part of that campaigning, your charity work, your football| your charity work, your football career, you get an mbe last year, what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at what did that mean to you? yeah, well. at first. _ what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at first, i— what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at first, i didn't _ what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at first, i didn't think- what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at first, i didn't think i - what did that mean to you? yeah, well, at first, i didn't think i was l well, at first, i didn't think i was worth it. and my family told me i was. and then, prince william, who gaveit was. and then, prince william, who gave it to me, told me i was well worth it. he's in aston villa fan but he wants but before he was as delighted to meet me as i was him so i accepted it gracefully. it's so nice to hear him speak so openly about that and he is so well respected within the world of sport as well. he respected within the world of sport as well. ., , , ., , ., ., as well. he has played the game, a letend in as well. he has played the game, a legend in the _ as well. he has played the game, a legend in the game but _ as well. he has played the game, a legend in the game but also - as well. he has played the game, a legend in the game but also as - as well. he has played the game, a legend in the game but also as a i legend in the game but also as a human being a top bloke. ihla legend in the game but also as a human being a top bloke. no question that he has brought _ human being a top bloke. no question that he has brought so _ human being a top bloke. no question that he has brought so much - that he has brought so much attention— that he has brought so much attention to a condition that i think— attention to a condition that i think a — attention to a condition that i think a lot of people don't know much _ think a lot of people don't know much about. his think a lot of people don't know much about-— think a lot of people don't know much about. his profile goes way be ond much about. his profile goes way beyond football _ much about. his profile goes way beyond football because - much about. his profile goes way beyond football because his - beyond football because his character and sense of humour and

big smile on right now he would be mucking out the horses! saturday, he texted me to say he was enjoying the programme, he liked the piece and he sent me a picture of his stables. chris, if you are watching this morning. _ chris, if you are watching this morning, send us a photograph of what _ morning, send us a photograph of what you — morning, send us a photograph of what you are up to!— what you are up to! talking of letends, what you are up to! talking of legends, jurgen _ what you are up to! talking of legends, jurgen klopp! - what you are up to! talking of legends, jurgen klopp! who l what you are up to! talking of. legends, jurgen klopp! who saw what you are up to! talking of- legends, jurgen klopp! who saw that coming? he thought it was going to be leaked and he had to say something now?— something now? very well choreographed _ something now? very well choreographed by - something now? very well. choreographed by liverpool. something now? very well- choreographed by liverpool. a really stront choreographed by liverpool. a really strong statement. _ choreographed by liverpool. a really strong statement. he _ choreographed by liverpool. a really strong statement. he will _ choreographed by liverpool. a really strong statement. he will be - choreographed by liverpool. a really strong statement. he will be leavingj strong statement. he will be leaving at the end of the season and big news and i love the fact in liverpool one of the producers�*s son was an english exam and the teacher broke the exam off momentarily to break the news. mas broke the exam off momentarily to break the news.— break the news. was that wise? sendint a break the news. was that wise? sending a whole _ break the news. was that wise? sending a whole lot _ break the news. was that wise? sending a whole lot of - break the news. was that wise? sending a whole lot of kids... it| sending a whole lot of kids... it wasn't like a gcse, it was a mid—term ekson —— external —— internal exam. it's the story which stunned

the football world and, indeed, the masses ofjurgen klopp fans who don't even like the sport. and now, the race is on to find the person to fill the massive void he will leave at liverpool when he departs at the end of the season. it will end a near 9—year spell at anfield that has brought the club five major trophies, including both the premier league and champions league titles. he's been explaining the thinking behind his decision to call it a day. the german says he just doesn't have the energy levels to be the best version of himself in the role. with all the responsibility i have in thisjob and with all the responsibility i have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolutely at the top of your game and i realised my resources are not endless and this club especially with the team we have, with all the super things we have, with all the super things we have, with all the super things we have in this club, this club needs on top of that a manager at his top game and its... you don't have to go far from anfield to see

jurgen klopp's influence. you can drink in a pub bearing his name and even sleep in a guest house named after him. here's how the red half of the city have been reacting to his pending departure. is just massive to the club, just mad that he is going to be leaving at the end of the season, do you know what i mean? there's going to be a massive hole. he know what i mean? there's going to be a massive hole.— be a massive hole. he is absolutely liver-ool. be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool- he _ be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool. he is _ be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool. he is an _ be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool. he is an amazing - be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool. he is an amazing fan. i be a massive hole. he is absolutely liverpool. he is an amazing fan. he 'ust liverpool. he is an amazing fan. he just fits _ liverpool. he is an amazing fan. he just fits us~ — liverpool. he is an amazing fan. he just fits us— just fits us. i've 'ust known him like for just fits us. i've 'ust known him tiie fer the — just fits us. i've just known him like for the best _ just fits us. i've just known him like for the best years - just fits us. i've just known him like for the best years of - just fits us. i've just known him like for the best years of my i just fits us. i've just known him| like for the best years of my life are supporting _ like for the best years of my life are supporting liverpool, - like for the best years of my life are supporting liverpool, so, i like for the best years of my life i are supporting liverpool, so, like, i'm are supporting liverpool, so, like, in sad _ are supporting liverpool, so, like, in sad and — are supporting liverpool, so, like, i'm sad and that. _ are supporting liverpool, so, like, i'm sad and that.— are supporting liverpool, so, like, i'm sad and that. he's embraced the ci , i'm sad and that. he's embraced the city. embraced _ i'm sad and that. he's embraced the city, embraced the _ i'm sad and that. he's embraced the city, embraced the people. - i'm sad and that. he's embraced the city, embraced the people. i - i'm sad and that. he's embraced the city, embraced the people. i mean, | city, embraced the people. i mean, that's what it's so odd, it's kind of like a father figure sort of thing. of like a father figure sort of thin. ., , of like a father figure sort of thint. ., , ., of like a father figure sort of thint. .,, ., , ., yeah. thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. reau thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant _ thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant for _ thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant for the _ thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant for the club. - thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant for the club. it - thing. he has done brilliant. yeah. really brilliant for the club. it is i really brilliant for the club. it is a sad _ really brilliant for the club. it is a sad loss _ really brilliant for the club. it is a sad loss. i don't want him to go! 0ther premier league managers have been having their say, on the big news ahead of their fa cup ties this weekend,

including manchester united boss erik ten hag. he built the club. he brought the club back i think where they belong so congratulations on that. he has done an amazing job in europol. he done an amazing “0b in europol. he said done an amazing job in europol. he said after nine years he ran out of energy. _ said after nine years he ran out of energy. can — said after nine years he ran out of energy, can you understand that? i can understand that. it is very intense. nine years, it is brilliant. i understand can be running out of energy. the pressure is i behind us. _ running out of energy. the pressure is i behind us. you _ running out of energy. the pressure is i behind us. you have _ running out of energy. the pressure is i behind us. you have all- running out of energy. the pressure is i behind us. you have all this- is i behind us. you have all this running — is i behind us. you have all this running you _ is i behind us. you have all this running. you have no time to get a good _ running. you have no time to get a good feeling from the success. it is ”p good feeling from the success. it is up to— good feeling from the success. it is up to each— good feeling from the success. it is up to each one of us to take the best— up to each one of us to take the best moment to have a small break. i can understand the reason. thisjob is intense — can understand the reason. thisjob is intense i— can understand the reason. thisjob is intense. i cannot _ can understand the reason. thisjob is intense. i cannot imagine - can understand the reason. thisjob is intense. i cannot imagine what. can understand the reason. thisjob is intense. i cannot imagine what it| is intense. i cannot imagine what it is intense. i cannot imagine what it is like _ is intense. i cannot imagine what it is like at _ is intense. i cannot imagine what it is like at an— is intense. i cannot imagine what it is like at an institution _ is intense. i cannot imagine what it is like at an institution like - is like at an institution like liverpool— is like at an institution like liverpool to _ is like at an institution like liverpool to do _ is like at an institution like liverpool to do what - is like at an institution like liverpool to do what he i is like at an institution likel liverpool to do what he has is like at an institution like - liverpool to do what he has done there _ liverpool to do what he has done there and — liverpool to do what he has done there and have _ liverpool to do what he has done there and have all— liverpool to do what he has done there and have all the _

liverpool to do what he has done there and have all the success i liverpool to do what he has done j there and have all the success he has had — there and have all the success he has had. amazing _ there and have all the success he has had. amazing work. - not long after the shock announcement, the talk started turning to who will replace him. well, xabi alonso appears to be an early favourite to take over. the former liverpool midfielder has legendary status at anfield and won the champions league with the club as a player and he is currently in charge of german side bayer leverkusen, and doing well there, too — they're currently top of the bundesliga and haven't lost in the league this season. at the moment i am really happy here. i am enjoying my work here and i have a feeling each day is a challenge, each game is a challenge and we are in a beautifuljourney here and i am trying to do my best and have my players ready for the next thing and that is my goal. brighton boss roberto de zerbi — seen here — is one of the prominent

names with bookmakers, as is tottenham's ange postecoglou, fans of both clubs taking to social media saying, "hands off our boss!" liverpool assistant manager pep lijnders appears to be ruled out, though. the club says the dutchman will be leaving anfield to pursue his own career in management elsewhere. the fa cup holders manchester city are through to the fifth round of this season's competition after a controversial late goal gave them a 1—0 win over tottenham. the moment came in the 88th minute after kevin de bruyne's corner was touched in by nathan ake — despite spurs' protests for a foul on the keeper — after a var check the goal stood. and that was city's first goal and win at spurs in six visits. the other three ties will all need replays — bristol city against nottingham forest and chelsea versus aston villa were both goalless. only one other game, had any goals in it — and that was the match between championship sides sheffield wednesday and coventry city, which finished 101. sheffield wednesday and coventry city, which finished 1—1. coventry went ahead at hillsborough just before the break. and how about this for a debut goal

from new signing victor torp? what a purchase he is. coventry held on to that lead until six minutes from time when djeidi gassama, squeezed in the equaliser, ensuring a replay. after a league match between the two teams last weekend, a man was arrested on suspicion of racially abusing the coventry player kasey palmer and so, the coventry players, took a knee side by side before the match in a display of unity against racism. there were a few boos from the crowd but also widespread applause at hillsborough. he's now 17 and luke littler has cruised into the quarterfinals of the dutch masters against one of the home favourites, dirk van duijvenbode. the performance was far from his best but he finished in style with a 150 checkout. he'll face world champion luke humphries next in a repeat of the world championship final. and it was a clean sheet for the world number one as humphries raced to a 6—0 win overjermaine wattimena. a night of drama in rugby union

as leicester tigers moved into the premiership's top six for the first time this season, thanks to a 20—19 win over harlequins. mike brown scored the decisive try at twickenham stoop, putting the tigers back in front against his old side. but there was a dramatic ending with jarrod evans missing the chance to win it for harlequins in the final moments of the game. and finally, britain's elfyn evans still leads the monte carlo rally heading into the penultimate day. evans was over 21 seconds clear at one stage. eight—times world champion sebastien 0gier has closed the gap to just 4.5 seconds, though. rallying's most prestigious event hasn't been won by a british driver since vic elford back in 1968. the rally ends tomorrow. that is it for now. in an hour, i

will be explaining how the lowest ranked team left in the fa cup will have the support of the whole of cameroon. have the support of the whole of cameroon-— have the support of the whole of - catheroorl-_ you cameroon. and me, apparently. you are dressed — cameroon. and me, apparently. you are dressed in _ cameroon. and me, apparently. you are dressed in their _ cameroon. and me, apparently. you are dressed in their colours. - cameroon. and me, apparently. you are dressed in their colours. they i are dressed in their colours. they are dressed in their colours. they are such an underdog story so we are championing them. now on breakfast, it's time for the travel show. america's northwest is a place like no other. i am on a journey from seattle up through the last frontier — alaska. forget what you think you know about america, because i'm here, life is wild. wow! it's exhilarating. you're enjoying this command you.

and it is changing. the ice is thinning four orfive metres per year. here, nature has had a huge impact. twice a day the neighbourhood would flood. every single day. so i am travelling across to the northwestern extremity of the united states, meeting people enriched by and adapting to the natural world around them. to discover how this remarkable corner of the world is shaped by nature. the emerald city. rain city. jet city.

seattle is a place of many things. it is grungy, tacky, and a little sticky. this eccentric outlier of the united states demands your attention. up here where fewer choose to venture, the city has been adapting and reinventing. today, technology is its lifeblood. but when the indigenous tribes first settled here, it was the abundance of nature which provided. it is quite surprising to think, walking around the city, back when it had its first non—native settlers in the 1850s, much of what we now know to be seattle was basically just forest. a huge lumber industry started, but it isn't the only aspect

of nature that drew people to settle here. seattle was built on the shores of the puget sound waters, and inlet from the pacific and part of the sea, from where local fishermen would bring in a catch for the market. pike place market is one of the oldest farmers markets in the us. i've been told that they are going to get me to do some of this, as well, but they are throwing it really far. how are you doing? good. we will get you dressed up to catch a fish. the fishmongers here began throwing things around the market to make it quicker to get the orders

across the counter. and it has become a famous tradition. it has your name on it, look at that! jason scott has been a fishmonger all his working life. you have to say tt, test toss. tt for craig. i was meant to throw that! you try it. you have to throw then you have to catch it. tt. aim for his head. he is not confident. who thinks i'm going to be able to do it? good job. cheers. applause.

today nature draws people to this area from around the world. and it is changing. i have come to nearby sanjuan island tojoin a whale watching tour. oh, it is beautiful out here, and i've been told there is so much other incredible wildlife. i really want to see a whale, but to be honest, i would take seeing any of it. kelly klein is the boat's on—board naturalist. kelly, what should i expect to see today? we have killer whales here year—round. any month of the year you can spot killer whales here.

humpbacks come here occasionally. great whales, minke whales — you never know what you will find. and i hear it is getting easier to spot because the numbers are going up? yes, for sure. humpbacks in particular, we saw an amazing rebound in the population once we banned whaling internationally. in 1966, 95% of their population was population was gone. wow. they were critically endangered and now they are of the endangered species list. while the numbers have been creeping up, recently they have shot up. absolutely. 2011 we saw an amazing rebound of the population, particularly here in the salish sea. so almost every year it has increased. and killer whale sightings have reached record numbers, too. according to the 0rca behaviour institute, 2023 march the ninth year out of the last ten where numbers have increased year. i think this is going to be our first opportunity to see something.

if you look over in the distance, you can see loads of other boats just like this one. and they have all sort of stopped, which, to me, can only mean one thing — they have found something in the water. and i can't wait to see what it is. ok, so we have all these boats over here, and you have a huge smile on yourface. what's happening? we just got word and i got a couple of glimpses, the killer whales are very active right now. they are hunting a sea lion. no way. it is the largest species of sea lion in the world so when they take them down it is quite an incredible fight because they do fight back. so we have killer whales here. how many? i think in total there are ten killer whales. ten killer whales. and they are hunting a sea lion. as stellar sea lion. however does this happen?

i have never seen an active sea lion hunt. new for two of us. it is really exciting. i can see something moving underwater. there is definitely blow thatjust came up. blowing right there. oh my gosh. this is really special. we had two separate families in here travelling together. are they working together? oh, yes, definitely. they have amazing synchronicity. they are very well co—ordinated. they are pack hunters, so they work together. everybody gets a little bite. five — five in a row, did you see?

they are extremely matriarchal. so the oldest female is the leader. mum is in charge making sure that everybody gets fed. it sounds a lot like my family. mum is in charge making sure that everybody gets fed. it sounds a lot like my family. yes. there is a lot of parallels between us human beings and killer whales for sure. this is pretty special. i find most things exciting and brilliant, but how many people would have seen this — ten killer whales taking on one sea lion? and i have front row seats. go on, sea lion! i'm rooting for you! but the natural world has influenced this area much more than just

as a habitat for wildlife and a draw for tourists. i'd heard that it had actually change the foundations of seattle. to find out how, we need to go down there. hey, mike! hey. tour guide mike daugherty works for beneath the streets, which helps unveil the city's hidden past. can't wait for this, mike. can't wait forthis, mike. is can't wait for this, mike. is it everything you've dreamt of and more? i genuinely feel like this could be some sort of weird setting for a horribly... yeah, it is. what we're looking at here is where on the old sidewalk level here. we are outside the first floor — the first floor, not the basement — of the sherman building.

we are under the sidewalk. we are surrounded by a giant wall. there is a huge retaining wall that goes entirely around this block. this wall is six feet thick. there are dozens of these was in this neighbourhood. that's a small one. why did people go to so much effort to build this? it's pretty ridiculous but when seattle was founded, that it was a logging town. that's what we were doing, right, for many years. the old mill was down the street. this entire neighbourhood was built at sea level. across the street from a 600—foot—deep harbour. now, you are going to have a problem at high tide. twice a day, the whole neighbourhood flooded. they had one thing in mind — get the logs down the hill, out to the mill and into the water, and ship them down to san francisco. the solution to the flooding came after the great fire of 1889 destroyed much of the city. they began rebuilding a level higher, creating walls around existing buildings to support

the new raised sidewalks. they built a giant retaining wall around every block in the neighbourhood. butjust imagine that. so, while they are doing this — because it is taking a while — you come out of the first floor of the building, stand on the sidewalk, i can't walk across the street now, because there is wall in front of me. now the road is up there. the road is up there. totally. is this the only part of this? no, dozens of these, all of the neighbourhood. let's go see some more. cool. i am well u- let's go see some more. cool. i am well up for— let's go see some more. cool. i am well up for that. _ let's go see some more. cool. i am well up for that. watch _ let's go see some more. cool. i am well up for that. watch your - let's go see some more. cool. i am well up for that. watch your step i let's go see some more. cool. i am j well up for that. watch your step on the pavers- — the vast project involved removing earth from the higher areas of the city to then raise it down at sea level. eventually, shop owners abandoned their old ground floors to move up a level, leaving some of seattle with a not entirely forgotten underground world. there are no rats in here? no, not anymore.

rats are the thing i am afraid of the most. there were legal businesses don't here in the 1970s. there was a hassle on down there. —— there was a hair salon down there. there was a flower shop around the corner. lots of different places. they are all gone now. i don't think i would come here for a hair cut but it is good to know. they are out of business now. it is massive. look at the space of this. how much of this was there? how far does this go across the city? there are dozens of spaces. the entire neighbourhood is like swiss cheese. there are over 20 square blocks. a block is maybe a quarter mile long or something like that. wow. maybe a little less. every single block is surrounded in this entire neighbourhood. every sidewalk you walk on in this neighbourhood is hollow underneath. i bet there are some stories from here. good, but also some not so good. people started having illegal businesses in the underground. there were opening dens,

gambling dens, prostitution. what was that? that's water, isn't it, in the pipes? what was that? that's water, isn't it. in the pipes?— i told you, i hate rats! i told you, man. there are no rats. you are safe with me. there are no rats. a lot of seedy stuff happening. did people live down here? people moved and live down here. there is room, they could do it now. i would not move down here. i wanted to do it when i first got the job and they told me there is plenty of room, they could do it now. i would not move down here. i wanted to do it when i first got the job and they told me they would try to get people clearly there is a lot of the service as well. amazing. let's have a pint. in the years since the underground was developed, a lot has changed for seattle, and one of its most iconic features today is the space needle.

it has recently undergone a $100 million makeover, including the world's first rotating glass floor. ok, i can do this. it was built in the 1960s for the world's fair, when all eyes were on an up—and—coming global city. seattle is a place that has undergone multiple transformations. it'as been called a boom and bust city and arguably, its biggest boom came about as a result of the natural world again which revolutionised the place with the gold rush. at the turn of the 19th century, the population in this place doubled in just ten years as it billed itself as the gateway to the goldfields up north in canada and alaska. it's the biggest state in the union, bigger than texas and california combined. and just like those early gold

prospectors, myjourney takes me 1000 miles north of seattle, to alaska's state capitaljuneau. but with just around 30,000 residents, it still feels like a town not vastly changed from its gold rush roots. i think he's coming right now — is this him? so, i have come to meet local hobbyists gold prospector ray to get a little dose of the gold fever which is still here, if you know where to look. ray? good morning! are you qasa? you want to see some gold today? glad to meet you, thank you. let's go! welcome to juneau, alaska! you are a long way away from home. man, tell me about it!

so, where are the goldmines here? well, they're actually everywhere in this town and this mountain you see directly in front of us was the alaska juneau mine. back in its day, that was the third—largest low—grade ore gold mine in all of america. alaska became a destination for prospectors after the mid 1800s. by the 1890s, the klondike gold rush took hold with 100,000 people streaming up through canada and some heading on up to alaska. 0ften walking for over a year, carrying supplies on their backs, many never made it, and those who did certainly left their mark. tearing through the environment while also creating new communities. so, how much gold is

there still out there? 0h... there is over 100 tons of gold still left in this mountain. you're joking. no, seriously. are you exaggerating just for me? no, i'm not. do you still have those professional goldminers here injuneau? yeah, we still have goldminers right here in town. i mean, the gold's here, the treasure's here and the drive to look it's always here. this must have been such a busy place back in the day. yep. full of excitement, full of positivity, full of hope people would find gold, find treasure and have a brilliant life. isn't it? it is everybody�*s dream. it has darn sure been my dream for a long time. maybe today is the day. do you think we will be able to find some gold today? i think so. let's go. i will see you in a minute, then. yeah, i'll park. let's do this. i won't lie.

i am feeling really excited about this — this is like... imagine back in the day the excitement that people would've had, going out in alaska, injuneau, every single day thinking, "today is the day. "today is the day that i am going to find some gold, "today is the day i'm going to find my fortune, "change my life completely around." do i think that's going to happen to me today? let's be honest, no. it is great to sort of play that role and actually have a bit of fun with it. so, i'm really looking forward to it. ray, come here. what is this? this is a floating drag. it is basically like running a vacuum cleaner. yeah. we are separating the gold from the sand. you can see it coming through. yeah, yeah, yeah. it's not that hard to do. can i have a go? absolutely, come on over here.

let's do this. it looks quite low—tech. is this a diy thing? it is a diy thing, definitely. by the way, if i find, like, 15 grams of gold, do i have to share it with you? yeah! really? well, yeah, i ain't going to give it all to you. broke greedy goldmine! to be fair, i'd better share it with you, you are my ride home. yeah, because i tell you, it's going to be a long swim! laughs. i'm not swimming in this. oh, come on! so, dredging done, it's time for the moment of truth.

now we're coming down to the money time. it all starts and ends with a gold pan, and you've got to learn how to do it. so, what i am doing is shaking it like this. gold being the heaviest, i am hoping it will fall in this bottom corner, that bottom corner. 0k? the more you shake it, the more chance the gold will vibrate all the way to the bottom. because it is heaviest? it is the heaviest, yes. you let the water come in just like the tide and when it goes out, it'll pull the material with it. see it? once you start seeing it turned darker, the water starting to sparkle... sparkle, sparkle! there's a big piece there. then you can take it all down to the bottom again. oh, look at that! laughs you have seen it. 0h, nice! that is a lot. we got some gold!

chuckles how about that? how about that, my friend! that is genuinely one of the best things that i have ever done. take some dirt, have some hope, add a bit of perseverance, get some gold. what a way to experience alaska! next time on myjourney... oh, yes! here we go! ..i find alaska to be a state deeply entwined with nature. knowing the land and cultivating it is a really big part of the indigenous cultures here. with a people forced to face the consequences of being... there it goes, there it goes. ..on the front lines

of the world's changing climate... glaciers across alaska are one of the largest contributor to global sea level rise. a wild wilderness of american folklore. yeah, this is real off—road! woo—hoo! that continues to be shaped by nature. you have to harmonise with it. this is the way life is.

good morning, welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and rachel burden. 0ur headlines today: donald trump is ordered to pay more than $80 million

in a defamation case brought by a us writer — the former president brands the verdict a "witch hunt". a big rise in the number of illegal vapes being seized at uk ports and airports — with four times more being found last year compared to 2022. we hear the stories of some of those who survived the holocaust, ahead of events around the world to remember the six millionjewish people who were murdered by the nazis. a taste of fa cup magic for a non—league side from kent. i'm with the players and staff of maidstone united, who will have the whole of cameroon behind them, when they take on championship giants ipswich town this lunchtime. good morning. it is a dry weekend for most. a bit of sunshine out there as well and it is mild. all the details shortly. it's saturday the 27th of january. our main story: donald trump has been ordered to pay more than $83 million

in damages — that's around £65 million — for defaming the writer e jean carroll while he was president. he had rubbished her claim that he sexually assaulted her in the 1990s. mr trump — who walked out of court during the hearing — later dismissed the verdict as ridiculous and politically motivated, and said he plans to appeal. our new york correspondent nada tawfik has the story. ejean carroll has now taken on donald trump twice in court. both times emerging victorious. last may, he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and ordered to pay her $5 million in damages. the second defamation trial looks set to cost him far more, $83 million. donald trump was not present when the verdict was read and earlier he stormed out of court when ejean carroll's lawyer was delivering her closing statement, arguing that the former president acted as if the law did not apply to him. afterwards he slammed

the verdict on social media as absolutely ridiculous and a politically motivated witch—hunt directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. we will set aside that ridiculous jury and i just want to remind you all of one thing, i will continue with president trump to fight for everybody�*s first amendment right to speak. everybody has a right to defend themselves when they are wrongfully accused and to be able to say i did not do it! donald trump has repeatedly denied raping the former advice columnist, at a department store in the 90s. ejean carroll's lawyers submitted as evidence videos and posts, where trump continued to defame her while the trial was taking place. i have no idea who she is, where she came from. this is another scam. it is a political witch—hunt. the damages awarded to ejean carroll were far more than the $24 million she asked for. it signals that the jury agreed with her lawyers that only a very

large sum that would hurt donald trump financially would convince him to stop. in a statement, ejean carroll described the verdict is a victory for every woman who stands up when she has been knocked down, and a huge defeat for every bully who has tried to keep a woman down. donald trump has plenty of upcoming trials where he faces a total of 91 felony counts and the threat ofjail time but so far it has not dented his chances of becoming the republican presidential nominee, quite the opposite, it has energised his base. nada tawfik, bbc news. that is the main story from the us this morning. back here, arise in the illegal vapours. —— vapes.

the number of illegal vapes seized at uk ports and airports surged last year, according to figures released by uk border force. the government is expected to announce new controls on vapes, with some reports saying they're considering an outright ban on disposables. ben king has more. the number of people vaping has surged in recent years, driven by a rush of disposable vapes imported from china. but many of those are illegal because they do not meet uk regulations, like these ones are seized by regulations, like these ones seized by trading standards. figures released to the bbc after a freedom of information request, show how the number of illegal vapes seized at the uk's ports and airports has risen from less than 5000 in 2021, to just under a million in 2022, to 4.5 million in the first 10 months of last year. that's nearly 10 tonnes. i bought this vape in a shop, i bought this one online, and both of them have more than the allowed amount of nicotine—containing liquid and that means they do not meet uk regulations, they won't have been through retailer's stringent safety checks and you cannot be quite sure what is in them. last year the government allocated

£3 million to help sniff out illegal vapes and underage sales. an announcement on further restrictions on vapes is expected next week. perhaps even a ban on disposables. if disposables were to be banned, then the illegal market would bloom because they are such an important part of the market and already we know that border force, trading standards and customs are having problems dealing with the illegal vapes there are already so they would have a much biggerjob to do. for everyone the authorities seize, many more go undetected. getting illegal vapes off the streets will not be an easy task. ben king, bbc news. two malaysian men have been sentenced to 23 years in prison at guantanamo bay for their role in the 2002 bali bombings. more than 200 people were killed in the attacks, including 28 british people. the men will have to serve six years of the sentence, after pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors. an oil tanker has been set on fire after a strike by houthi fighters off the coast of yemen.

no injuries were reported and the ship, the marlin luanda, received assistance from the us navy. the uk and us have launched air strikes on the group in response to previous attacks. the government said britain reserves the right to respond appropriately. the head of the cia is expected to meet with officials from israel, egypt and qatar in the coming days in an attempt to negotiate the release of hostages held by hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the uk. 0ur correspondent mark lowen is injerusalem for us. mark, what more do we know about this meeting? good morning. they are reportedly due to begin tomorrow, sunday, in france, although the cia has not confirmed the location or the start date and they will involve the head of the cia, the head of mossad the

head of the egypt agency and top officials from qatar to try to reach a ceasefire. israel is under renewed pressure and scrutiny of its actions in gaza following thatjudgement, the provisional decision by the international court ofjustice in the hague yesterday that they called on israel to do everything it can to prevent any possible genocide in gaza, to get more urgent humanitarian aid in and to stop inflammatory language and so i think the icj decision is a club in the wheels of diplomacy turning faster. president biden spoke yesterday with the president of agent and the emir of qatar so attempts to push both sides to new diplomacy and negotiations. —— president of egypt. no imminent hopes of a breakthrough

although. filth no imminent hopes of a breakthrough althouth. ., , ., although. on the one side we have the talks likely _ although. on the one side we have the talks likely to _ although. on the one side we have the talks likely to happen - although. on the one side we have the talks likely to happen sooner. the talks likely to happen sooner then also we have news from the us. is this a pause in humanitarian aid? explain that one for us. it is a pause in funding for unwra, the un agency for palestinian refugees which operate in the palestinian territories, the occupied palestinian territories and in gaza and it comes after 12 local staff for unwra were found to be complicit in the october seven attacks on israel which of course sparked this current conflict. the 12 staff are amid a general workforce of 30,000 so the un said in the grand scheme of things, there are some bad apples which they have immediately suspended and condemned but they say that it should not cast a shadow on the entire un workforce. israel has

seized on this because it has long argued un and un bodies have been complicit against israel and that unwra employs hamas sympathisers. it is embarrassing for the un agency but the us and others say it should not overshadow the general very good and important work of the un agency does. . .. and important work of the un agency does. ., «i , ., and important work of the un agency does. . ~' , ., , and important work of the un agency does. ., «i i. , . the labour leader sir keir starmer has backed a call for a public inquiry into the potential failings which enabled a mentally ill man with a recent history of violence to kill three people in nottingham. valdo calocane fatally stabbed grandfather ian coates and university students barnaby webber and grace 0'malley—kumar in june last year. 0ur political correspondent harry farley is in the london newsroom. where are we in relation to what has been officially set about the potential of a public enquiry? the

government _ potential of a public enquiry? tie: government is so potential of a public enquiry? tt9: government is so far potential of a public enquiry? ti9 government is so far resisting calls for a public enquiry. what they have said is the attorney general, victoria prentice, who provides legal advice for the government, will look at the sentence valdo calocane received, and indefinite detention in a high security hospital and check whether that was overly lenient and whether he should be in prison instead. of course, valdo calocane charge for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility but not murder. sir keir starmer is backing calls from the family to go further. they want to see a wider public investigation into other failings around this case, in particular that valdo calocane had been detained four times by mental health services and previously had violent outbursts and previously had violent outbursts and at the time of the killing he was under an arrest warrant. sir

keir starmer saying he's worried about a number of missed opportunities. rishi sunak says he wants agencies to learn lessons from this and though not backing it is not ruling out a public enquiry. us politicians have called for new laws to criminalise the creation of deepfake images, after explicit faked photos of taylor swift were viewed millions of times online. the images were posted on social media sites, including x, formerly known as twitter. in a statement, x said it was "actively removing" the images and taking "appropriate actions" against the accounts involved in spreading them. the king has spent the night in hospital after receiving treatment for an enlarged prostate. the procedure was carried out at the london clinic private hospital. 0ur reporter nickjohnson is there. good morning to you. the king have been very open about this procedure taking place. what do we know this morning?

taking place. what do we know this mornint ? ,:, :, taking place. what do we know this mornint ? :, . ,, :, taking place. what do we know this mornint? :, . ,, :, :, morning? good morning. we know that he was admitted _ morning? good morning. we know that he was admitted here _ morning? good morning. we know that he was admitted here yesterday - he was admitted here yesterday morning. he has now undergone the procedure for an enlarged prostate. he spent the night here as was planned. buckingham palace say he is likely to spend at least one night here. queen camilla accompanied thinking into hospital yesterday morning. she was then seen leaving yesterday afternoon, having told people inside, that the king was really well. this is not like any other nhs hospital in central london, it is a relatively small private cleaning in the harley street area of london but one caring for two senior royals. 0ne being the king but also his daughter—in—law, kate prince of wales. she has undergone abdominal surgery and we know the king visited his daughter—in—law here yesterday before undergoing his treatment.

when the princess of wales is discharge, her recovery will take several months but the king's condition is not serious enough to warrant any constitutional change to his role as head of state.— his role as head of state. thank you very much- — the world's biggest cruise ship, royal caribbean's icon of the seas, will set sailfrom miami later, on its maiden voyage. have a look at this. how big is that! i have a look at this. how big is that! , :, the 250,000 ton ship took 900 days to build and cost £1.5 billion. it will house the world's first suspended infinity pool at sea as well as the ocean's largest—ever water park and has the capacity to carry nearly 8,000 people. it is pretty impressive to look. 8000 people. it it is pretty impressive to look. 8000 people-— it is pretty impressive to look. 8000-teole. :, :, , 8000 people. it is a lot of people. it is a bit 8000 people. it is a lot of people. it is a big ship- _ 8000 people. it is a lot of people. it is a big ship. we _ 8000 people. it is a lot of people. it is a big ship. we want _ 8000 people. it is a lot of people. it is a big ship. we want lovely - it is a big ship. we want lovely weather to accompany it. look, you

see this, weather to accompany it. look, you see this. i— weather to accompany it. look, you see this, i wanted _ weather to accompany it. look, you see this, i wanted to _ weather to accompany it. look, you see this, i wanted to cheer - weather to accompany it. look, you see this, i wanted to cheer up - weather to accompany it. look, you see this, i wanted to cheer up the l see this, i wanted to cheer up the breakfast ideas and got very excited when i got home yesterday and found that flowers were beginning to burst openin that flowers were beginning to burst open in my garden. this is your garden. open in my garden. this is your tarden. �* . open in my garden. this is your tarden. �* , :, open in my garden. this is your tarden. �*, :, : , garden. let's not look too closely. talk us through _ garden. let's not look too closely. talk us through rachel's _ garden. let's not look too closely. talk us through rachel's garden. | yesterday was nice. can you remember the name you give when you feel the warmth of the sun on your face? president xi? that's the warmth of the winter sun. 50 president xi? that's the warmth of the winter sun.— president xi? that's the warmth of the winter sun. so you may have felt it yesterday — the winter sun. so you may have felt it yesterday with _ the winter sun. so you may have felt it yesterday with the _ the winter sun. so you may have felt it yesterday with the sun. _ the winter sun. so you may have felt it yesterday with the sun. -- - it yesterday with the sun. —— apricity. little things like that glad in your heart. is your heart happy? glad in your heart. is your heart ha . ? :, , glad in your heart. is your heart ha-t ? :, , :, ,:, :, glad in your heart. is your heart ha-t ? :, , :, ,:, happy? lovely, more photos of your tarden. happy? lovely, more photos of your garden- we — happy? lovely, more photos of your garden- we only _ happy? lovely, more photos of your garden. we only have _ happy? lovely, more photos of your garden. we only have too. - happy? lovely, more photos of your garden. we only have too. weather| garden. we only have too. weather watchers have _ garden. we only have too. weather watchers have sent _ garden. we only have too. weather watchers have sent in _ garden. we only have too. weather watchers have sent in pictures - garden. we only have too. weather watchers have sent in pictures of. watchers have sent in pictures of some nice flowers, crocuses, snowdrops, i don't know what they are. all mild over the next few days

and with some sunshine you may feel the apricity so not too bad for many of us over the weekend with largely dry conditions although a bit of rainfall in the forecast which is affecting the far north of scotland with some strengthening winds here as well. the satellite picture has lots of clear skies over europe, a big area of high pressure extending into the uk with some weather fronts affecting northern and western areas and the difference in temperatures with 7-10 and the difference in temperatures with 7—10 for many of us but in the southeast with the clear skies it's actually quite cold and frosty, minus three degrees at the moment. we will keep lots of dry and sunny weather especially towards the south and east today and further north, strengthening winds so perhaps gales in the northern isles and patches of rain affecting the far northwest of scotland. maybe the odd shower in northern ireland, northern england but for most of us, dry, some bright and sunny spells and maximum temperatures up to about 8—10.

through this evening, rain affecting the far north of scotland and elsewhere, some dry weather with some clear skies again but it will not be as cold in the southeast, temperatures holding up about three or four. temperatures holding up about three orfour. much more mild in the northwest with temperatures overnight 7—10. there is your area of high pressure. it acts like a big boulder at the moment with these weather fronts, boulder at the moment with these weatherfronts, trying boulder at the moment with these weather fronts, trying to boulder at the moment with these weatherfronts, trying to move boulder at the moment with these weather fronts, trying to move their way in. they will make slow inroads towards northern and western areas but we will have the southwesterly winds so you can see the milder air across the uk during sunday. the cold air isn't too far away. throughout the day on sunday we will see rain moving in across the far north and western scotland, strengthening wind, and elsewhere it's looking like another dry day with lots of usable weather over the weekend with sunny spells again on sunday with maximum temperatures up to about 10—13. into next week, the

weather front will move further south and east but for most of us, looking largely dry. that south and east but for most of us, looking largely dry-— looking largely dry. that will do! thank you. _ looking largely dry. that will do! thank you, simon! _ looking largely dry. that will do! thank you, simon! it's - looking largely dry. that will do! thank you, simon! it's now- looking largely dry. that will do! j thank you, simon! it's now 7:17. the public inquiry into the post office scandal has begun considering the action taken against sub—postmasters from across northern ireland. maureen mckelvey was one of them. she was prosecuted over shortfalls totalling £30,000 but was later found not guilty. she was accompanied at the inquiry by three other victims and our business correspondent emma simpson went to meet them. the best of friends after the worst of times. —— waited years before being cleared of theft. the stress caused her thyroid to rupture —— maureen mckelvey. deirdre connolly went bankrupt after losing her post 0ffce and kathleen mcaloon was interviewed under caution 23 days after giving birth. heather earley lost her pension trying to make up

for losses that were not real. how important was it for you to come? has it brought it all back? iuteri; has it brought it all back? very much so- _ has it brought it all back? very much so- l _ has it brought it all back? very much so. i felt— has it brought it all back? very much so. i felt very _ has it brought it all back? very much so. i felt very sick - has it brought it all back? very much so. i felt very sick when l has it brought it all back? very much so. i felt very sick when i has it brought it all back? - much so. i felt very sick when i saw her on the screen. it took me back a lot of years but i'm relieved now that i've done this. this is another step forward for me. because i've carried this for years. fight! step forward for me. because i've carried this for years.— carried this for years. and in the trocess, carried this for years. and in the process. you — carried this for years. and in the process, you lost _ carried this for years. and in the process, you lost your _ carried this for years. and in the j process, you lost your business, your health and your reputation. yes. i know we had a good reputation and a good name in the community and everybody respected us and we lost that. : , , :, :: , that. and deirdre, they even accused ou of that. and deirdre, they even accused you of stealing _ that. and deirdre, they even accused you of stealing money _ that. and deirdre, they even accused you of stealing money for _ that. and deirdre, they even accused you of stealing money for the - that. and deirdre, they even accused you of stealing money for the polar l you of stealing money for the polar money trays? t you of stealing money for the polar money trays?— you of stealing money for the polar money trays? i was totally shocked. and incredibly _ money trays? i was totally shocked. and incredibly serious _ money trays? i was totally shocked. and incredibly serious because... i money trays? i was totally shocked. and incredibly serious because... al and incredibly serious because... serious thing. and incredibly serious because... a serious thing. how _ and incredibly serious because... a serious thing. how much _ and incredibly serious because... a serious thing. how much has - and incredibly serious because... a serious thing. how much has it - and incredibly serious because... a i serious thing. how much has it meant to ou that serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you _ serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you can — serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you can all— serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you can all talk— serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you can all talk to - serious thing. how much has it meant to you that you can all talk to each i to you that you can all talk to each other and share some experiences? t

other and share some experiences? i think it's been great because in the initial— think it's been great because in the initial stages we were told we were the only— initial stages we were told we were the only one and i believed that for a really— the only one and i believed that for a really long time. and when you kinda _ a really long time. and when you kinda found out there were other people _ kinda found out there were other people and other people in northern ireland _ people and other people in northern ireland as _ people and other people in northern ireland as well, it was actually such— ireland as well, it was actually such a — ireland as well, it was actually such a relief and order it sounds horrible — such a relief and order it sounds horrible to — such a relief and order it sounds horrible to say. you find other people — horrible to say. you find other people who had gone through a similar— people who had gone through a similar traumatic experience but it actually— similar traumatic experience but it actually was a relief. you similar traumatic experience but it actually was a relief.— actually was a relief. you are fitthtin actually was a relief. you are fighting together _ actually was a relief. you are fighting together now. - actually was a relief. you are fighting together now. we i actually was a relief. you are | fighting together now. we are actually was a relief. you are - fighting together now. we are strong totether. fighting together now. we are strong together- not _ fighting together now. we are strong together. not the _ fighting together now. we are strong together. not the only _ fighting together now. we are strong together. not the only one _ fighting together now. we are strong together. not the only one anymore. you had a seachange _ together. not the only one anymore. you had a seachange in _ together. not the only one anymore. you had a seachange in terms - together. not the only one anymore. you had a seachange in terms of - you had a seachange in terms of support. you had a seachange in terms of su-tort. , you had a seachange in terms of su--o.n,:, , ,, you had a seachange in terms of support. absolutely, because as cathy says. _ support. absolutely, because as cathy says. you _ support. absolutely, because as cathy says, you know, _ support. absolutely, because as cathy says, you know, people i support. absolutely, because as - cathy says, you know, people didn't understand. — cathy says, you know, people didn't understand, as much as you tried to tell them _ understand, as much as you tried to tell them. and they said did you see those _ tell them. and they said did you see those poor— tell them. and they said did you see those poor people in england who went through that? we went through that as _ went through that? we went through that as well! fire went through that? we went through that as well! : , :, , :, that as well! are you still waiting for final compensation? - that as well! are you still waiting for final compensation? oh, - that as well! are you still waiting l for final compensation? oh, yeah. i've tot for final compensation? oh, yeah. i've got nothing. _ for final compensation? oh, yeah. i've got nothing. nothing? - for final compensation? oh, yeah. i've got nothing. nothing? no. - for final compensation? oh, yeah. i've got nothing. nothing? no. noj i've got nothing. nothing? tic. no interim payment? i've got nothing. nothing? no. no interim payment? nothing. - i've got nothing. nothing? no. no interim payment? nothing. and i i've got nothing. nothing? no. no. interim payment? nothing. and i'm one of the longest _ interim payment? nothing. and i'm one of the longest cases. _ interim payment? nothing. and i'm one of the longest cases. i - interim payment? nothing. and i'm one of the longest cases. i haven'tl one of the longest cases. i haven't

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put my life on, 25 years ago. not now. , , put my life on, 25 years ago. not now. , . , put my life on, 25 years ago. not now. , , , :, :, now. the enquiry is trying to get to the truth, now. the enquiry is trying to get to the truth. and _ now. the enquiry is trying to get to the truth, and it _ now. the enquiry is trying to get to the truth, and it continues - now. the enquiry is trying to get to the truth, and it continues next - the truth, and it continues next week. these four women will be watching closely. emma simpson, bbc news. 0f of course, the enquiry will be carrying on with full coverage across bbc news. today is holocaust memorial day, which marks the anniversary of the liberation of auschwitz—birkenau, the largest nazi death camp. each year across the uk, thousands of people come together to learn more about the holocaust and take action to create a safer future. frankie mccamley has been to meet some of the survivors — and you may find the content in her report upsetting. we have got to say hello. i have to tive ou we have got to say hello. i have to give you a — we have got to say hello. i have to give you a cuddle. _ we have got to say hello. i have to give you a cuddle. vera _ we have got to say hello. i have to give you a cuddle. vera and - we have got to say hello. i have to give you a cuddle. vera and either| give you a cuddle. vera and either ma be give you a cuddle. vera and either may be relatively _ give you a cuddle. vera and either may be relatively new— give you a cuddle. vera and either may be relatively new friends - give you a cuddle. vera and either may be relatively new friends but| may be relatively new friends but it's their history that connects them. :. , it's their history that connects them. :, , , ,:, ., it's their history that connects them. :, , , :, , them. -- iva/ my husband had been in concentration — them. -- iva/ my husband had been in concentration camps _ them. -- iva/ my husband had been in

concentration camps and _ them. -- iva/ my husband had been in concentration camps and had - them. -- iva/ my husband had been in concentration camps and had just - concentration camps and had just survived a live and so did iva, and it was his experience.— it was his experience. while they had before _ it was his experience. while they had before were _ it was his experience. while they had before were in _ it was his experience. while they had before were in concentrationj had before were in concentration camps vera was sent to prague from england on the kendu transport. fiend england on the kendu transport. and i first england on the kendu transport. fific i first arrived in england on the kendu transport. a"ic i first arrived in england, i found ifirst arrived in england, ifound myself absolutely shocked by liverpool street station —— kindertransport. in those days, it was dirty. i thought i am never going to be collected. she was dirty. i thought i am never going to be collected.- was dirty. i thought i am never going to be collected. she was taken in b an going to be collected. she was taken in by an english _ going to be collected. she was taken in by an english family _ going to be collected. she was taken in by an english family but _ going to be collected. she was taken in by an english family but never - in by an english family but never saw her parents again. both were killed in the holocaust. the only memories she has are a few items they had for her. this memories she has are a few items they had for her.— they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as _ they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a _ they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a child. _ they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a child. and - they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a child. and this - they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a child. and this is i they had for her. this is a bracelet that i had as a child. and this is a | that i had as a child. and this is a necklace that i wore as a child. i keep them in myjewel box because they are jewellery to me. the keep them in my jewel box because they are jewellery to me.— they are 'ewellery to me. the only wa to they are jewellery to me. the only way to save _ they are jewellery to me. the only way to save precious _ they are jewellery to me. the only way to save precious memories i they are jewellery to me. the only i way to save precious memories about time was to hide them. something survivor hannah knows only too well. this was my father's and mother's

and they buried some photos and stuff because they wanted to leave a trace. :. , stuff because they wanted to leave a trace. :, , :, :, : trace. her family were all marched to a labour— trace. her family were all marched to a labour camp _ trace. her family were all marched to a labour camp in _ trace. her family were all marched to a labour camp in adam - trace. her family were all marched to a labour camp in adam pole - trace. her family were all marched to a labour camp in adam pole in l to a labour camp in adam pole in poland when she was five years old. one by one, her relatives went missing or were killed, including her mother, who had the chance to escape but didn't because hannah was too sick to leave. mi; escape but didn't because hannah was too sick to leave.— too sick to leave. my mother was very calm- _ too sick to leave. my mother was very calm- she — too sick to leave. my mother was very calm. she got _ too sick to leave. my mother was very calm. she got on _ too sick to leave. my mother was very calm. she got on her- too sick to leave. my mother was very calm. she got on her knees, too sick to leave. my mother was - very calm. she got on her knees, she took me in her arms, she gave me a huge hug and kiss and, very quietly, went to the door, opened it and closed it firmly behind her. instead, when soldiers bashed on the door, she hid her daughter and went outside. , . :. door, she hid her daughter and went outside. , , :, :, , :, outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall. — outside. they started to shoot and i

saw her fall, and _ outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall, and i _ outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall, and i saw _ outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall, and i saw the - outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall, and i saw the blood i outside. they started to shoot and i saw her fall, and i saw the blood onj saw herfall, and i saw the blood on the snow and i knew i mustn't make a sound. i knew why she did what she did. ~ , :, , :, , sound. i knew why she did what she did. , did. why do you feel it is so important — did. why do you feel it is so important to _ did. why do you feel it is so important to share - did. why do you feel it is so important to share your- did. why do you feel it is so i important to share your story? because i think you have two... you have to understand. you have a responsibility for each other. tara responsibility for each other. iva was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. t was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. . : :. was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. , : :, :, was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. , :, ., , was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. , :, :, , :, was sent to auschwitz at 12 years old. , :, :, " old. i became a family of 11, five brothers. _ old. i became a family of 11, five brothers, four _ old. i became a family of 11, five brothers, four sisters, _ old. i became a family of 11, five brothers, four sisters, and - old. i became a family of 11, five brothers, four sisters, and out l old. i became a family of 11, five| brothers, four sisters, and out of all of us, out of the 11 of us, my mother and father, there's only me and my brother alex, who was two years older than me, survived. and i only survived, well, being like obviously comes in tremendous help but also because my brother who was two years older than me literally saved me from the gas chamber three times. ifeel as though

saved me from the gas chamber three times. i feel as though there are less and less and less of us alive, i have to talk about it and if you see around what's happening in the world, the best thing to look forward to is education and hopefully, however little i contribute to it, it will make a difference, ifeel i've contribute to it, it will make a difference, i feel i've earned my living. difference, i feel i've earned my livint. :. , difference, i feel i've earned my livint. :, via: difference, i feel i've earned my livin._ ., [311 , ., , difference, i feel i've earned my livint. :, vic, :, difference, i feel i've earned my livin. :, ff, :, ,:, :, living. nearly 80 years on from the end of the holocaust, _ living. nearly 80 years on from the end of the holocaust, iva, - living. nearly 80 years on from the end of the holocaust, iva, hannahl end of the holocaust, iva, hannah and vera's painful memories are still hard to share. hope some good will come about talking about the at a time when many around the world are still suffering. to vera, hannah and iva for sharing those important stories with us this morning. commemorative events to mark holocaust memorial day will take place throughout the day before several landmarks across the uk are lit up in purple at eight o'clock this evening. to give you a little heads up, a lot of people will be waking up still reeling from the finale of the

traitors last night which was astonishing and we will not spoil it but later on in the show we will talk to the final... but later on in the show we will talk to the final. . .— talk to the final... who are we talkint talk to the final... who are we talking to? — talk to the final... who are we talking to? the _ talk to the final... who are we talking to? the final— talk to the final. .. who are we l talking to? the final contestants talk to the final. .. who are we - talking to? the final contestants is all i will talking to? the final contestants is all i will say- _ talking to? the final contestants is all i will say. be _ talking to? the final contestants is all i will say. be careful. _ talking to? the final contestants is all i will say. be careful. if- talking to? the final contestants is all i will say. be careful. if you - all i will say. be careful. if you saw it and _ all i will say. be careful. if you saw it and want _ all i will say. be careful. if you saw it and want to _ all i will say. be careful. if you saw it and want to understand | all i will say. be careful. if you - saw it and want to understand more about what happened behind the scenes afterwards, which i do, sure you are with us just before nine o'clock. you are with us 'ust before nine o'clock. �* . ~ : ~ until relatively recently, ecuador was one of the safest countries in latin america but a deadly surge in gang violence has caused the country to descend into chaos. its president declared a state of emergency more than two weeks ago and soldiers are on the streets of major cities as they try to quell the trouble. ros atkins has been taking a closer look. you could be forgiven for asking what's happened to ecuador? translation: we live | in constant fear because, on a day to day basis when we go out to work, we don't know if we'll return or if we'll come back home in one piece. this is a story of how one country

in south america has been transformed by the trade in cocaine. ecuador sits between colombia and peru with a population of 17 million. it had been stable and safe. not any more. this week, 68 gang members were arrested after they stormed a hospital where a member of their gang was being treated. also, this was the moment ecuador arrested a top colombian drug trafficker. the situation's been escalating for weeks. 0n the seventh of january, a powerful drug lord known as 'fito' vanished from his jail cell. prison riots across the country followed with the military trying to contain them. but dozens of prisoners escaped, hundreds of prison staff were taken hostage. there were bombs in the capital, quito, too. and then, there was this — a local tv station was attacked by armed men live on air. days later, the man leading the investigation into that was shot dead. and in the aftermath of the tv attack, this was the assessment of ecuador�*s president.

translation: we are practically living in a state of— war against terrorism. these are not organised crime groups. they are terrorists. ecuador has gone from one of the safest countries in latin america to one of the deadliest. according to a leading think tank, the nation's murder rate for last year is the highest in its history, and ecuador�*s police say 80% of those murders connect to cocaine. but the drug trade in latin america is nothing new. so why is it having such an impact on ecuador now? well, first, we need to look at neighbouring colombia. it's long been one of the largest cocaine producers in the world and for years, the colombian rebel group farc controlled the drug trade there. but in 2016, farc demobilised as part of a peace deal with the colombian government. most of its members stopped their armed resistance and stepped back from the drugs trade. this created a vacuum,

which mexican cartels and other organised crime would fill. as well as that, with the support of the us, colombia has continued to clamp down on the drug cartels. that meant the cocaine trade was looking for somewhere that was easier to do business. it looked next door, and ecuador wasn't equipped to deal with this. ecuador has been a relatively sort of island of peace, relative island of peace, to compare it to colombia and peru, so that's meant that it's never really developed the infrastructure, the training and the material to be able to take on these sorts of existential security threats that it now faces. and ecuador�*s lack of preparation connects to its relationship with the us. back in 2007, ecuador elected rafael correa as president. he vowed to free ecuador from what he called "us imperialism". as pa rt of as part of that, the president closed a us military base. that

meant a sharp reduction in the monitoring of ecuador�*s waters. also in 2013, rafaelle carella suspended cooperation with the drug enforcement authority and that meant a sharp reduction in support. and also relevant here is one of ecuador�*s main exports, bananas. they're shipped in containers with many bound for the us and europe. cocaine could go in those containers too. put all of that together, farc�*s demobilisation, the clampdown in colombia, ecuador�*s disengagement with the us, a lack of security infrastructure and the established export routes for bananas, and ecuador was vulnerable when the cartels decided to make their move. over the last few years, where we've seen this escalation of violence, this sort of gradual descent or not so gradual, sometimes quite, you know, surges and outbreaks of violence. there's been numerous states of emergency, you know, 60 days, 30 days. and none of them have really sort of got to the root of the problem. president correa left office in 2017.

two more presidents would follow him. and then in october last year, daniel noboa was elected president on a promise to crack down on violent crime. to do that, he'd need to deal with the criminal networks operating within ecuador�*s notorious prisons, which are central to the cocaine trade. not only have they been able to operate with impunity in the prisons, they've actually expanded their activities, an indication also of a certain amount of complicity within the security forces. in other words, many prisons in ecuador are the base from which gangs co—ordinate drug trafficking, and that brings violence. hundreds of inmates are being killed. in 2021 alone, over 300 died. but so far, efforts to break that connection between the prisons and the drug trade haven't worked. there's one final factor too, the people buying the cocaine, there's one final factor too, the people buying the cocaine, because one estimate values ecuador�*s annual cocaine exports at close to $1 billion.

others put it higher still. and 70% of ecuador�*s cocaine exports goes to europe. the busiest cocaine route in the world starts in ecuador�*s main port and ends in belgium, from where the cocaine is distributed across the continent. as one organised crime expert puts it, "the unending demand for cocaine in europe is what is fuelling the ecuadorian drug war." and the eu accepts that europe is part of the equation. drug trafficking and organised crime linked to it are a threat to all societies, their prosperity, security and democracy. europe needs to reinforce its cooperation with partners in fight against drug trafficking in ecuador and elsewhere. all of this is having devastating consequences for ecuador, and for some, the situation is untenable. they're trying to leave. for example, in 2022, nearly 18,000 ecuadorians sought asylum in the us, five times more than the year before.

thousands of personal decisions with roots that reach back. in truth, the storm, which has turned ecuadorfrom one of the safest nations in latin america to one of the most violent, has been brewing for years. ecuador�*s predicament was a long time coming. it will take a long time to resolve too, because this is about supply and demand, about an inability to stop the exports, about the us and europe's voracious appetite for cocaine, and about a country ill equipped to be caught in the middle. we have been talking about traitors but there is no—one less treacherous than jurgen but there is no—one less treacherous thanjurgen klopp. the sense of loyalty to that city. he than jurgen klopp. the sense of loyalty to that city.— loyalty to that city. he has been the nine years _ loyalty to that city. he has been the nine years which _ loyalty to that city. he has been the nine years which is - loyalty to that city. he has been the nine years which is a - loyalty to that city. he has been the nine years which is a long i loyalty to that city. he has been i the nine years which is a long time in football in the premier league. but now they have this dilemma, they

still have the season and they are hoping to get a second title for jurgen klopp but they have to look for someone else. t5 jurgen klopp but they have to look for someone else.— jurgen klopp but they have to look for someone else. is that why they have announced _ for someone else. is that why they have announced it _ for someone else. is that why they have announced it now? _ for someone else. is that why they have announced it now? maybe i for someone else. is that why they | have announced it now? maybe you for someone else. is that why they - have announced it now? maybe you got late so he did — have announced it now? maybe you got late so he did the _ have announced it now? maybe you got late so he did the right _ have announced it now? maybe you got late so he did the right thing _ have announced it now? maybe you got late so he did the right thing and - late so he did the right thing and ended speculation. zabi alonso looks like a possible. but he is tied at that club at the moment. who is going to feel the birds and what about the future forjurgen klopp who says he will have a break for a year. even if he has nothing left to eat in the future he will never manage an english club. he loved liverpool and it was his dynasty.

such is his dynasty at liverpool and love for the club, after a near 9—year spell at anfield, that has brought the club five major trophies, including both the premier league and champions league titles. it could of course be more by the time he leaves. he's been explaining the thinking behind his decision to call it a day. the german says he's now 56, and just doesn't have the energy levels, to be the best version of himself in the role. with all the responsibility you have in this job and these kind of things, you have to be absolute at the top of your own game. i realised that my resources are not endless and this club especially, with the team we have, with all the super things we have in this club, this club needs on top of that a manager at his top game... not long after the shock announcement, the talk started turning to, who will replace him. well, zabi alonso appears to be an early favourite to take over. the former liverpool midfielder has legendary status at anfield, and won the champions league with the club as a player and he is currenly in charge of german side bayer leverkusen and doing well there too — they're currently top of the bundesliga and haven't lost in the league this season. brighton boss roberto de zerbi — seen here — is another prominent names with bookmakers,

as is tottenham's angelos postecoglou. fans of both clubs taking to social media saying, hands off our boss. liverpool assistant manager pep lijnders, appears to be ruled out though. the club says the dutchman, will be leaving anfield "to pursue his own career in management elsewhere". the fa cup holders manchester city, are through to the fifth round of this season's competition, after a controversial, late goal gave them a 1—0 win over tottenham. the moment came in the 88th minute, after kevin de bruyne's corner was touched in by nathan ake, despite spurs' protests for a foul on the keeper. after a var check the goal stood and that was city's first goal and win at spurs in six visits. the other three ties will all need replays — bristol city against nottingham forest, and chelsea versus aston villa were both goalless. only one other game, had any goals in it and that was the match between championship sides sheffield wednesday and coventry city, which finished 1—1. coventry went ahead at hillsborough just before the break— and how about this for a debut goal from new signing victor torp.

a torpedo, you could say, in the corner. coventry held on to that lead until six minutes from time when djeidi gassama squeezed in the equaliser, ensuring a replay. now onto the fa cup 4th round and after last night's matches, only manchester city advanced after their late winner at tottenham. well, now this lunchtime, the focus switches from the holders, to the the lowest ranked club left in the competition. non—league side maidstone united, who travel to championship club ipswich town. it's the first time the minnows from kent, have achieved this, and thanks to the journey of their manager they will have millions of new fans following the game across cameroon. he has been labouring up to this moment since he was a ten—year—old when he was growing up in west cameroon and when his father died. he vowed to honour his dad by coming to england to make it as a footballer and he did just that, going on to play for wolves in the

premier league are now in his first managerial role making history by taken nonleague maidstone united to the fa cup fourth round.— the fa cup fourth round. immensely troud of the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what _ the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what i _ the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what i am _ the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what i am achieving - the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what i am achieving at - the fa cup fourth round. immensely proud of what i am achieving at this| proud of what i am achieving at this moment in time and i'm sure my dad is looking down and proud of that young man, the young boy he left in 1996 when he died. a day does not go by when i don't think about my dad. it isjust the by when i don't think about my dad. it is just the icing by when i don't think about my dad. it isjust the icing on by when i don't think about my dad. it is just the icing on the cake for my community back in cameroon. but this is a traditional cup that everyone wants to watch. so i am sure the whole of cameroon will be supporting maidstone united. this

sure the whole of cameroon will be supporting maidstone united. this is supporting maidstone united. this is what giantkilling _ supporting maidstone united. this is what giantkilling means _ supporting maidstone united. this is what giantkilling means to _ supporting maidstone united. this is what giantkilling means to the - supporting maidstone united. this is what giantkilling means to the fans and players and right at the heart of it is george. these pictures went viral notjust in cameroon but around the world after the lowest ranked team left in a competition, from two divisions below the football league knocked out stevenage, i come from a leg one to take their place in the history books. tt take their place in the history books. . take their place in the history books. , , :, , ., books. it is unbelievable that maidstone — books. it is unbelievable that maidstone united _ books. it is unbelievable that maidstone united got - books. it is unbelievable that maidstone united got to - books. it is unbelievable that maidstone united got to the | books. it is unbelievable that - maidstone united got to the fourth round of the fa cup. ijust cannot wait. round of the fa cup. i 'ust cannot wait. :. , round of the fa cup. i 'ust cannot wait. :, , , :, wait. finally maidstone united has another reason _ wait. finally maidstone united has another reason to _ wait. finally maidstone united has another reason to sing _ wait. finally maidstone united has another reason to sing from - wait. finally maidstone united has another reason to sing from the i another reason to sing from the rooftops. already famous for its tv studios and honorary dinosaur, the football club is now leaving a footprint across the whole community. shop windows transformed to share the club's success. tt is a to share the club's success. it is a hute to share the club's success. it is a huge amount- _ to share the club's success. it is a huge amount. an _ to share the club's success. it is a

huge amount. an integral- to share the club's success. it is a huge amount. an integral part- to share the club's success. it is a huge amount. an integral part ofl to share the club's success. it is a i huge amount. an integral part of the community. with the supporters and local companies that sponsor them and the support they give charities is fantastic. we are behind them 100%. :, :, _, , 100%. you have the community, the community trust _ 100%. you have the community, the community trust working _ 100%. you have the community, the community trust working on - 100%. you have the community, the community trust working on all - 100%. you have the community, the community trust working on all the i community trust working on all the projects _ community trust working on all the projects it— community trust working on all the projects. it is a big circle of happy— projects. it is a big circle of happy people. projects. it is a big circle of happy people-— projects. it is a big circle of happy people. projects. it is a big circle of hate tieole. . :, :, , , happy people. these are now sunny da s and happy people. these are now sunny days and indeed _ happy people. these are now sunny days and indeed at _ happy people. these are now sunny days and indeed at the _ days and indeed at the state—of—the—art pitch, 21st century stadium to banish the memories of what happened in 1992 becausejust like the dinosaur the football club became extinct. luckily it wasn't brought to life, fought its way back through the divisions. ——it was. and now it has reached the fourth round of the fa club.— of the fa club. maidstone united club is central _ of the fa club. maidstone united club is central to _ of the fa club. maidstone united club is central to the _ of the fa club. maidstone united club is central to the town - of the fa club. maidstone united club is central to the town and i of the fa club. maidstone unitedl club is central to the town and the dinosaurs is one of the mascots as

well. fit. dinosaurs is one of the mascots as well. : :, , :_ dinosaurs is one of the mascots as well. : :, , :, well. a former player now chief executive. _ well. a former player now chief executive, bill— well. a former player now chief executive, bill was _ well. a former player now chief executive, bill was one - well. a former player now chief executive, bill was one of- well. a former player now chief executive, bill was one of the l executive, bill was one of the saviours of the club and as he gets ready to retire this club tie is a fitting reward. and now, on their way to ipswich, winners of the cup itself in 1978. me way to ipswich, winners of the cup itself in 1978.— itself in 1978. we have all had those emotional— itself in 1978. we have all had those emotional moment - itself in 1978. we have all had those emotional moment in i itself in 1978. we have all had i those emotional moment in our itself in 1978. we have all had - those emotional moment in our lives and sometimes people do not get it, that you can get quite tearful about winning a football match. to see our side come out is going to be a really emotional time.- side come out is going to be a really emotional time. there will also be a tearjerking _ really emotional time. there will also be a tearjerking moment. really emotional time. there willj also be a tearjerking moment for really emotional time. there will. also be a tearjerking moment for the players, some of whom work in sparring the next generation at the town's schools and academies. tats sparring the next generation at the town's schools and academies. eats a town's schools and academies. as a footballer you _ town's schools and academies. as a

footballer you dream _ town's schools and academies. as a. footballer you dream of moments town's schools and academies. as 9 footballer you dream of moments like this. as silly as it sounds, to be on the bbc, i have grandparents who will not be able to make the game so they will be watching it.— they will be watching it. come kick-off, they will be watching it. come kick-off. they _ they will be watching it. come kick-off, they may _ they will be watching it. come kick-off, they may find - they will be watching it. come - kick-off, they may find themselves kick—off, they may find themselves easy prey for the championship giants but they will savour this moment for generations to come not just on the banks of the river but in cameroon and beyond. i wonder if it will be as sunny as it was the day we found at maidstone united. the fans on their way to ipswich. the fans on their way to ipswich. the match is live on bbc one and the coverage starts at 12:15pm. into the quarter—finals of the dutch masters.

the performace was farfrom his best, but he finished in style with a 150 checkout. he'll face world champion, luke humphries next in a repeat of the world championship final. and it was a clean sheet for the world number one as humphries raced to a 6—0, win overjermaine wattimena. a night of drama in rugby union, as leicester tigers moved into the premiership's top six for the first time this season, thanks to a 20—19 win over harlequins. mike brown scored the decisive try at twickenham stoop, putting the tigers back in front against his old side. but there was a dramatic ending with jarrod evans missing the chance to win it for harlequins in the final moments of the game. millimetres, that is all it came down to in the end. did the maidstone united fans need umbrellas?— maidstone united fans need umbrellas? :, :, , maidstone united fans need umbrellas? :, :, umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass — umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass it _ umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass it across _ umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass it across to _ umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass it across to simon. -

umbrellas? you can pass it to us and we will pass it across to simon. no, | we will pass it across to simon. no, the will we will pass it across to simon. no, they will not- _ we will pass it across to simon. no, they will not. it _ we will pass it across to simon. no, they will not. it is _ we will pass it across to simon. no, they will not. it is nice in ipswich and there will be some sunny spells. yeah, so, it's lovely for many of us. we saw the garden earlier with the crocuses and snowdrops and look at these lovely daffodils blooming in surrey at the moment. while it's mild for many of us at the moment, it's actually quite chilly this morning in the south east of england with a frost and temperatures down to —3. the milder weatherfurther north and west, 7—10 at the moment. there is the southeast and this is a moment ago in kent with some frost on the ground and a beautiful sunrise here this morning. there will be some sunshine as i said for many parts of the uk. the further north you are, we have some strong winds affecting the far north of scotland. some outbreaks of rain expected for the full northwest of scotland today and maybe one or two showers in northern ireland and perhaps one and two in northern england but for most of us, it's

dry, the best of the sunshine towards the south and east with temperatures generally speaking about 8—10 or 11 degrees. about the average for the time of year. through tonight the rain will continue for a time across the far north of scotland and the winds will ease down here through tonight. clear skies down towards the south and east by perhaps not quite as cold as it was last night with temperatures staying up about two or three degrees but look at that, while the weather up there with conditions 7—9. while the weather up there with conditions 7—9 . a big area of high pressure across europe at the moment blocks whether systems or makes them very slow moving towards the north and west but we have one where the system approaching scotland as we go through into sunday but for most of us ahead of the weather front we have this milder air coming in from the south. anotherfine, dry have this milder air coming in from the south. another fine, dry day for most of us on sunday and again, some sunny spells and you notice the rain tending heavy in the west of

scotland into the afternoon. some is edging into northern ireland by the evening. for many of us again it's on the mild side with the sunshine not feeling too bad at all if you're out and about with temperatures 10-13. the out and about with temperatures 10—13. the rain and weather front in the far northwest of scotland will make a bit more progress south and east but as we go into monday, it will push into parts of wales and northern england and southern scotland, it is slow—moving so it will be quite a wet day for these parts. even with the cold air coming in behind it, they could be a little bit of snow, chiefly over higher ground of the southern uplands on monday, and to the southeast it is dry with some sunshine which is where the mild weather will be with temperatures 14 or 15. the colder, chillier weather towards scotland and northern ireland, the far north of england, eight or nine degrees. i tuesday, the weather front will have completely disappeared so we're looking at lots of weather around. only tuesday but most of the week.

one or two showers dotted around, yes, but for most of us through the week it will be dry with some sunny spells and temperatures at alljust above the average so 14 or 15. spells and temperatures at all 'ust above the average so 14 or 15. thank ou, above the average so 14 or 15. thank you. simon! — above the average so 14 or 15. thank you. simon! lt's _ above the average so 14 or 15. thank you, simon! it's 7:47 _ above the average so 14 or 15. thank you, simon! it's 7:47 am. _ now on breakfast, it's time for newswatch. this week — the bbc�*s north america editor sarah smith on the us presidential election. welcome to newswatch with me samira ahmed. coming up, there's more than eight months until voters decide coming up: there's more than eight months until voters decide on the next occupant of the white house. why have some viewers had enough of the contest already? and the peculiar challenges of reporting on one particular candidate for president. first, storm isha and storm jocelyn this week caused considerable damage to many parts of the uk with heavy

rain and strong winds also resulting in two deaths on sunday. here's part of the bbc�*s coverage that day. if you do come near the coast, please make sure that you air with caution. the idea is is that even when it is rough, the wind and the waves will come over and they could sweep you out to sea and it's hard in this weather to try and find anyone. so, please, if you do come down or if not, please just steer clear of the sea if you can. well, the rain is here and the strong winds have already started to arrive and the sea, it's on its way in. and the real warning is around coastal areas with large waves and debris posing a risk to life. professor lucy easthope was one of a number of viewers concerned about that juxtaposition between the rnli's warning to steer clear of the sea and the piece to camera that followed immediately. and john from cheshire recorded

a video with his thoughts on the matter. are those who control the bbc of the view that oral warnings cannot comprehend be comprehended by members of the public of the public unless accompanied by pictures? if so, that's a very condescending view to hold. in any event, if they held that view, there are any number of static cameras from which views of the sea can be obtained, rather than sending a camera crew and a reporter into a potentially dangerous situation. we are just wrapped up really warm and going to go home and stay — stay inside, i think. to an untutored eye, it certainly looked like a dangerous location. apart from anything else, the effect of this report was to undermine the rnli warning rather than to reinforce it. because effectively what you were saying is, well, the rnli say that it's not safe here, but look,

we're here and we're filming and we're interviewing people, so it can't be that bad, really. is it a case of do what we say and not what we do? well, newswatch viewers will know we have raised this issue repeatedly with bbc news over the years. we did again, putting all those points to them and this was their response: last week, we had the iowa caucuses. this week, the new hampshire primary. both of them held to start determining who the republican candidate would be in this autumn's us presidential election, and both with the same winner. donald trump is already anticipating that old generation rematch withjoe biden, completely confident he will be the republican candidate. when you step into that voting booth, you are going to be

signalling that we want crooked joe biden, the worst president in the history of our country, we got to get him out. donald, i love you! sarah smith, the bbc�*s north america editor there, and we'll be speaking to her in a moment. first, some of your responses to the coverage this week, starting with this from brian tickell. robin petherbridge added: and here's andrew taylor: well, sarah smithjoins us now from new hampshire. thank you so much for coming

on newswatch, sarah. so, this week was a primary, last week was a caucus — there's just two out of 50 state contests. we are such a long way from the election itself. has this week and last really been worth the amount of airtime that it's got, do you think? so, the particular votes that were held last week and this week are really, really important in the primary process. the iowa caucus is the first one in the country and then, the new hampshire primary, the first one where voters go to the ballot box and pick their candidate, and they get more coverage than the rest of the race. we are not going to be giving the same level of coverage to 48 other contests. not at all. these two set the tone for the election. already, the number of candidates has been winnowed down to just two who were competing in new hampshire — nikki haley and donald trump — and the outcome of these votes is it has a huge influence on who is going to become the candidate. and, essentially, the question this year is whether or not it's going to be donald trump. and these are two candidates

who have very, very different political outlooks, different policies — crucially on foreign policy as well. which one of them becomes the republican candidate could determine what the party's policy is on all sorts of international events. they're particularly opposed, for instance, on funding for the ukraine defences and whether or not america would continue spending money on that. so, there is — there's a sharp policy difference between the two of them that does matter beyond the united states. and is it still important to follow candidates around the country on the campaign trail these days or is more of that taking place online and on television? some voters, of course, get their information online and on television, and we reflect what's being seen there in our reporting, but it's vital, i think, to be on the ground for several reasons. so, firstly, as we move around different states, it's by being there in person as the bbc that we can talk to the voters about how they're responding to the messages that they hear from the candidates but also, how candidates appear on the campaign trail can

make a huge difference. i mean, ron desantis basically came undone because when people saw him in real life, they didn't think he behaved like a regular human being and they didn't much like the look of him. he's stiff and awkward and finds it difficult to communicate well with voters — things that he could gloss over in television and in his advertising but not when he was on the stump, being asked questions by people who were right there in front of him and that is, in many ways, what sank his campaign. now, when it comes to former president trump, there are some viewers here who feel he's allowed to dominate news coverage too much and that there's not enough challenge of his more dubious claims. and i wonder how you approach reporting on him? so, he dominates the republican campaign and so, he features largely in our coverage — but not to the extent that he obliterates anybody else. i mean, he is an important political force in the united states. he's reshaped american politics in many ways, completely transformed the republican party, is the clear frontrunner

for the republican nomination and, certainly, this far out polling suggests, you know, a very strong contender to be re—elected to the white house, so he is an important figure who needs and deserves coverage. we are careful not to take everything donald trump does and says and put it on the air. i mean, when he is making important speeches in electoral contests, of course we cover them, so we can talk about what his message is, what his policies are. the court cases in which he's embroiled are tremendously important as well because they could have a huge impact on this campaign. they could have a huge impact, basically, on whether or not if he's re—elected to the white house, he's able to govern from there or whether he'll be in prison or under house arrest. i mean, the consequences of this are enormous. so, of course, we cover those court cases as well. and often some of the statements that he makes on the steps of the court because they're a vital historical event that deserves coverage. what we don't do is put on air absolutely everything that donald trump does.

i mean, you might feel you see so much of him, you wonder what else he could be doing in the spare hours but he actually does do a number of events, of rallies, of different meetings, all kinds of things to talk to his supporters, which we do not put on air unless they have a genuine purpose. unless we are looking at an electoral contest or some significant point in his legal problem. so, although you might think you see a lot of him, trust me, it's not as much as you could. and sarah, in the us, about half the country support trump. in britain and europe, he's generally regarded — i think it's fair to say — far more negatively. so, in terms of impartiality, do you think about british viewers or the us electorate in your coverage? well, when it comes to impartiality, it's not ourjob to decide whether or not these people are popular and report them in one particular way or give them more or less coverage because the audience may have a favourable or unfavourable view of them. i mean, there's a wide spectrum of opinion in the united states. as you say, there are a lot of people who are very,

very keen on him and excited to vote for him and there are huge numbers of people who absolutely detest him. he is a very polarising figure and i'm sure that has wider spectrum in other countries, including the uk. but impartiality doesn't mean pandering to the majority view or deciding what our audience wants to hear. it means covering it totally impartially, simply saying this is what donald trump has been saying. these are the parts of it that are accurate and inaccurate. and this is the impact. we don't make a decision to to report in a favourable or unfavourable light, the things he's done are said based on how the audience might be feeling about him — that would be that would be the antithesis of impartiality. sarah smith, thank you so much. finally, we know you newswatch viewers have a real attention to detail and accuracy and one eagle—eyed viewer took exception to this piece of output on the news channel last week. keep an eye on the text in the red banner.

and councils changed the lighting around the towns. some have been dimmed. others are on timers. it all cuts down on light pollution without compromising on safety, they say. if you didn't spot the mistake there, listen to what paul bowden had to say. thank you for all your comments this week. if you want to share your opinion about what you see or hear on bbc news, on tv, radio, online and social media, email us. or you can find us on x, formerly known as twitter. you can call us. and do have a look at previous

interviews on our website. that's all from us for now. thank you forjoining us. do think about getting in touch and perhaps even coming on the programme. we'll be back to hear more of your thoughts about how the bbc covers the news next week. goodbye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and rachel burden. our headlines today... donald trump is ordered to pay more than $80 million in a defamation case brought by a us writer. the former president brands the verdict a witch hunt. a big rise in the number of illegal vapes being seized at uk ports and airports — with four times

more being found last year compared to 2022. in sport, huge boots to fill at liverpool as the search begins for a new manager following jurgen klopp's shock announcement that he will be leaving at the end of the season. spoiler alert — the second series of traitors ended last night. what was it like to be part of it? we'll speaking to some of the finalists. good morning. it's a dry weekend for most of us. there will be a bit of sunshine out there as well and it is mild. i'll have all the details shortly. it's saturday the 27th of january. our main story. donald trump has been ordered to pay more than 83 million dollars in damages — that's around £65 million — for defaming the writer ejean carroll while he was president. he had rubbished her claim that he sexually assaulted her

in the 1990s. mr trump — who walked out of court during the hearing — later dismissed the verdict as ridiculous and politically motivated, and said he plans to appeal. our new york correspondent nada tawfik has the story. ejean carroll has now taken on donald trump twice in court, both times emerging victorious. last may, he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and ordered to pay her $5 million in damages. the second defamation trial looks set to cost him far more — $83 million. donald trump was not present when the verdict was read and earlier he stormed out of court when ejean carroll's lawyer was delivering her closing statement, arguing that the former president acted as if the law didn't apply to him. afterward, he slammed the verdict on social media as absolutely ridiculous and a politically motivated witch hunt

directed by president biden. we will immediately appeal. we will set aside that ridiculousjury. and ijust want to remind you all of one thing — i will continue with president trump to fight for everybody's first amendment right to speak. everybody has a right to defend themselves when they are wrongfully accused and to be able to say, "i didn't do it." donald trump has repeatedly denied raping the former advice columnist at a department store in the '90s. ejean carroll's lawyer submitted as evidence videos and posts where trump continued to defame her while the trial was taking place. i have no idea who she is, where she came from. - this is another scam. it's a political witch hunt. the damages awarded to ejean carroll were far more than the 24 million she asked for. it signals that the jury agreed with her lawyers that only a very large sum that would hurt donald trump financially would convince him to stop. in a statement, ejean carroll

described the verdict as a victory for every woman who stands up when she's been knocked down and a huge defeat for every bully who's tried to keep a woman down. donald trump has plenty of other upcoming trials where he faces a total of 91 felony counts and the threat ofjail time. but so far, it hasn't dented his chances of becoming the republican presidential nominee. quite the opposite. it's energised his base. nada tawfik, bbc news, new york. that is the news from the united states. let's catch up with the main news in the united kingdom. the number of illegal vapes seized at uk ports and airports surged last year, according to figures released by uk border force. the government is expected to announce new controls on vapes, with some reports saying they re

considering an outright ban on disposables. ben king has more. the number of people vaping has surged in recent years, driven by a rush of disposable vapes imported from china. but many of those are illegal because they don't meet uk regulations, like these ones seized by trading standards. figures released to the bbc after a freedom of information request show how the number of illegal vapes seized at the uk's ports and airports has risen from less than 5,000 in 2021 to just under a million in 2022 to 4.5 million in the first ten months of last year. that's nearly ten tonnes. i bought this vape in a shop. i bought this one online. and both of them have more than the allowed amount of nicotine—containing liquid. that means they don't meet uk regulations, they won't have been through a retailer's stringent safety checks and you can't be quite sure what's in them. last year, the government allocated £3 million to help sniff out illegal vapes and underage sales. an announcement on further restrictions on vapes is expected next week — perhaps even a ban on disposables.

if disposables were to be banned, then the illegal market would balloon because they're such an important part of the market. and, already we know that border force, customs, trading standards are having problems, dealing with the illegal vapes there are already, so they'd have a much biggerjob to do. for everyone the authority sees, many more go undetected. getting illegal vapes off the streets will not be an easy task. ben king, bbc news. two malaysian men have been sentenced to 23 years in prison at guantanamo bay for their role in the 2002 bali bombings. more than 200 people were killed in the attacks — including 28 british people. the men will have to serve six years of the sentence, after pleading guilty and agreeing to cooperate with prosecutors. an oil tanker has been set on fire after a strike by houthi fighters off the coast of yemen. no injuries were reported and the ship, the marlin luanda, received assistance from the us navy.

the uk and us have launched air strikes on the group in response to previous attacks. the government said britain reserves the right to respond appropriately. the head of the cia is expected to meet with officials from israel, egypt and qatar in the coming days, in an attempt to negotiate the release of hostages held by hamas, which is designated as a terrorist organisation by the uk. our correspondent mark lowen is injerusalem for us. good morning to you. talk us through what is known at this stage about these talks. what is known at this stage about these talks-— what is known at this stage about these talks. ~ :, :, :, these talks. morning. the talks are re ttortin these talks. morning. the talks are reporting to — these talks. morning. the talks are reporting to be _ these talks. morning. the talks are reporting to be starting _ these talks. morning. the talks are reporting to be starting tomorrow, | reporting to be starting tomorrow, sunday, in france. although the cia has not confirmed the date or the location. we understand they will involve the head of cia as well as egypt's intelligence agencies and top officials from qatar to try to bridge the divide and reach progress

on a new ceasefire. it is a sign that the wheels of diplomacy are turning again and there is renewed pressure on israel to engage with talks on a ceasefire. one of the cogs in that wheel of diplomacy was that decision by the international court ofjustice on friday to order israel to do everything within its power to stop potential genocide in gaza and to ensure more aid getting in and to stop inflammatory statements by israel's government. israel is now under renewed scrutiny, renewed pressure over its actions in gaza and i think the fact these talks are due to begin is a sign of that. we also know president biden on friday spoke to counterpart in egypt and the emir of qatar before those talks are due to begin. just explain for us, we are hearing that us funding for un refugee agency has been paused. just explain

that one for us, will you? yes. agency has been paused. just explain that one for us, will you?— that one for us, will you? yes, the us is pausing _ that one for us, will you? yes, the us is pausing funding _ that one for us, will you? yes, the us is pausing funding for - that one for us, will you? yes, the us is pausing funding for the - that one for us, will you? yes, the us is pausing funding for the un i us is pausing funding for the un palestinian agency in the palestinian agency in the palestinian west bank and gaza because 12 of its staff were found to be complicit in the october the 7th attack on israel when hamas stormed israel and killed around 1200 people and took more than 240 people hostage. now, the fact they had been suspended and the un finds they were indeed complicit, that has been seized on by israel as in israel's view, proof the un local staff in gaza are working with all pro—hamas will stop the un is biased in favour of hamas in israel's view. israel has long argued that the various un agencies are biased and stacked against it. the us, the un and others are saying there is 12 members of staff out of a combined workforce of 30,000 employed by that

un agency. un missions around the world over the decades had been tarnished by a few members of staff. they are saying, look at the bigger picture. that should not cast a shadow over the entire un mission. the us is pausing funding. us politicians have called for new laws to criminalise the creation of deepfake images, after explicit faked photos of taylor swift were viewed millions of times online. the images were posted on social media sites, including x, formally known as twitter. in a statement, x said it was "actively removing" the images and taking "appropriate actions" against the accounts involved in spreading them. the king has spent the night in hospital after receiving treatment for an enlarged prostate. the procedure was carried out at the london clinic private hospital. our reporter nickjohnson is there. morning to you. king charles has been very open about the procedure

taking place. tell us what we know this morning. taking place. tell us what we know this morning-— this morning. morning to you, charlie. this morning. morning to you, charlie- we — this morning. morning to you, charlie. we know— this morning. morning to you, charlie. we know the - this morning. morning to you, charlie. we know the king - this morning. morning to you, | charlie. we know the king was admitted here yesterday morning. he has undergone that procedure for an enlarged prostate. he spent the night here, as was planned. buckingham palace say they expect him to spend at least one night here. the king was accompanied into hospital yesterday by queen camilla. she was seen leaving yesterday afternoon, having tell people inside that the king was doing well. this is notjust like any other nhs hospital in london, it is a relatively small private clinic in the harley street area of central london, one that is treating to make senior royals, one booking but also katherine, princess of wales. she is undergoing —— she has been undergoing —— she has been undergoing abdominal surgery. the

king visited her following undergoing abdominal surgery. the king visited herfollowing his undergoing abdominal surgery. the king visited her following his own treatment yesterday. when the princess of wales is discharge, we know how recovery will be one of months. as for the king, his condition is not significant enough to require any sort of constitutional changes to his role as head of state. the king wanted to make his condition, his diagnosis public in order to encourage other men to get their prostate checked. nhs england said it has had a surge in visits to the relevant sections of its websites, something doctors, charities and even the king has welcomed. charities and even the king has welcomed-— charities and even the king has welcomed. :. ~' , :, , : we're going to take a look at what the driest place in america currently looks like. this is death valley in southern california — and as you can see it's not very dry at all. it's called lake manly and it was formed by rare heavy rains last year. now scientists are warning anyone hoping to see it to be quick. they say it's drying up again fast, and may not be

there for much longer. enjoy splashing around in that oversize paddle! extremes of the weather are extraordinary sometimes, aren't they? brute weather are extraordinary sometimes, aren't the ? . weather are extraordinary sometimes, aren'tthe ? . , , weather are extraordinary sometimes, aren't they?— aren't they? we saw yesterday about the extreme — aren't they? we saw yesterday about the extreme temperatures _ aren't they? we saw yesterday about the extreme temperatures in - aren't they? we saw yesterday about the extreme temperatures in spain, | the extreme temperatures in spain, the extreme temperatures in spain, the pyrenees. the temperature contrast across the world. we are also enjoying _ contrast across the world. we are also enjoying the _ contrast across the world. we are also enjoying the little _ contrast across the world. we are also enjoying the little things - contrast across the world. we are also enjoying the little things this morning. also enjoying the little things this mornint. . . : also enjoying the little things this mornint. , , : morning. this is nice. en'oying seeint morning. this is nice. en'oying seeing pictures * morning. this is nice. en'oying seeing pictures this h morning. this is nice. enjoying seeing pictures this morning i morning. this is nice. enjoying| seeing pictures this morning of crocuses, snowdrops, daffodils even starting to bloom. a small sign of things improving, isn't it? this morning, a fine and dry weekend for many of us this weekend. quite chilly in the south—east of england with temperatures down to minus three celsius. milderfurther with temperatures down to minus three celsius. milder further north and west, eight to 10 celsius at the moment. a beautiful start to the day

for many others. look at the scene in london this morning with the sunrise. for most of us it will be dry with sunny spells. in the far north of scotland we had some rain moving its way through. strong winds affecting the northern isles in particular. a few showers in northern ireland and northern england but they are few and far between. for most of us it will be dry with sunny spells with temperatures round about eight to ten, maybe 11 celsius. feeling pleasant out and about. you will welcome the warmth of the sun on your skin. welcome the warmth of the sun on yourskin. stilla welcome the warmth of the sun on your skin. still a bit of rain affecting the far north of scotland. elsewhere some clear skies. not as cold as last night in the south were temperatures staying above freezing around two to 4 degrees. the milder air in the far north and west, 79 degrees in the morning. 0n air in the far north and west, 79 degrees in the morning. on sunday, a big area of high pressure over the

europe. there is one where the front you can see just to the west of scotland. behind it some chilly air. the of a milder south—westerly winds. that is why on sunday it will be relatively mild. lots of dry and sunny weather. some hazy sunshine with cloud across central areas. that the rain spread into the north and west of scotland, quite heavy in the afternoon. moving into northern ireland in the evening. temperatures 13, even 14 degrees. many of us across england and wales will keep their milder air, just the south—east. the weather front will make slow inroads across scotland, northern england and wales. as it moves here on monday, it is actually pretty slow moving. quite a wet day for these parts. even with colder air moving behind it, we could see a speu air moving behind it, we could see a spell of snow on the higher ground in the southern uplands. in the sunshine in the south—east, it will

feel particularly pleasant. look at the contrast in temperatures. colder air to the north and west. temperatures on monday about seven, 8 degrees. for the rest of the week, that weather front will fizzle away. while there could be rain at times with a week across parts of scotland and northern ireland, for most of as the week ahead looks relatively dry. there will be sunny spells. temperatures will stay at orjust above average for the time of year. looking at highs of ten to 14 celsius. the driest weather the further south you are across the uk with sunny spells. the weekend not looking too bad. for today on the weekend in general can enjoy the finer, drierweather. weekend in general can enjoy the finer, drier weather. fit, weekend in general can en'oy the finer, drier weather.h finer, drier weather. a female crocuses _ finer, drier weather. a female crocuses will _ finer, drier weather. a female crocuses will be _ finer, drier weather. a female crocuses will be best - in their heads open today. thank you very much. when grace o'malley—kumar, barnaby webber and ian coates were fatally stabbed on the streets of nottingham lastjune, their families were united in grief. of nottingham lastjune,

now, they share a growing anger. of nottingham lastjune, firstly, because the killer valdo calocane was sentenced for manslaughter — not murder — and also because he was free to roam despite a history of serious mental illness and recent episodes of violence. we, as a devastated family, have been let down by multiple agency failings and ineffectiveness. the fails from the police, the cps, the health service have resulted in the murder of my father and these two innocent students. the nhs mental health trusts have to be held accountable for their failures, along with the police. we will never come to terms with the loss of our beloved i daughter, grace, and how she lost her life. - we will look for answers - regarding missed opportunities to intervene, and prevent this horrendous crime. i if you had just done yourjobs properly, there's a very good chance my beautiful boy would be alive today. there is so much more to say and clearly serious questions regarding this case and events

leading up to this monster being out in society. but, for today, our darling son, his dearfriend, grace, and a wonderfully kind grandfather ian have been stolen from us forever and let down by the very system that should have been protecting them. we'rejoined now by julian hendy, who set up the charity hundred families to help people whose loved ones are murdered. very directly, this is specific to the circumstances, murdered in situations when someone has mental illness. ~ :. situations when someone has mental illness. ~ :, :, , it illness. mental health problem. it is worth explaining _ illness. mental health problem. it is worth explaining because - illness. mental health problem. it is worth explaining because the i is worth explaining because the people will ever have an understanding what it is like to be in that situation. you have been in that situation as a family because of the murder of your dad, philip. can you tell me briefly what happened? mi; can you tell me briefly what

happened?— can you tell me briefly what hat-ened? g :, _ , happened? my dad with 75 by very fit, happened? my dad with 75 by very fit. healthy- _ happened? my dad with 75 by very fit. healthy. 85 — happened? my dad with 75 by very fit, healthy. 85 fruit _ happened? my dad with 75 by very fit, healthy. 85 fruit and _ happened? my dad with 75 by very fit, healthy. 85 fruit and veg - fit, healthy. 85 fruit and veg everyday, he went running. one morning he went to the paper shop to pay his bill. as he was walking out of the shop, a man he had never met before who had a of schizophrenia and drugs and violence stabbed him in the back. he had never met him before, neverspoken in the back. he had never met him before, never spoken to him before, a completely random killing. i used to make investigative documentaries. i found even with that experience i could not find out anything. it was such a secret system. very little support. nobody would tell you what was going on. people were not talking to me.— was going on. people were not talkint to me. :. ~' :, , :, talking to me. thank you for showing that art of talking to me. thank you for showing that part of your— talking to me. thank you for showing that part of your story. _ talking to me. thank you for showing that part of your story. i _ talking to me. thank you for showing that part of your story. i am - talking to me. thank you for showing that part of your story. i am sure - that part of your story. i am sure it is never easy to talk these things through, experienced as you are. in that situation where it came to trial, this was a murder trial. when the chap who killed my dad went

to trial could ever two psychiatric reports when he tried to plead diminished responsibility. they said he had schizophrenia and another said he took loads of drugs. everything was tested in court and the psychiatrist had to account for themselves. in this case, i had been in nottingham all week with the families. the psychiatric evidence was decided behind closed doors and in secret. there are significant questions about the story we are being led to believe, significant questions about he was supposed to be psychotic for a period of time beforehand. weeks in police custody. nobody had any concerns. they did not do any drug tests on him because he didn't want to. the family had significant questions. the story doesn't add up. it has not been explained publicly enough because the cps accepted it without

involving the family is already questioning. tt involving the family is already questioning-— questioning. it is clear that families are _ questioning. it is clear that families are deeply - questioning. it is clear that i families are deeply frustrated questioning. it is clear that - families are deeply frustrated by that lack of transparency. one thing we need to point out is both the prosecution and the defence had separate psychiatric reports, which the judge has access to. also, separate psychiatric reports, which thejudge has access to. also, if i am right, another review of those reports. you are getting extremely experienced specialist psychiatrist representing both sides of this case. ~ . representing both sides of this case. . :, :, , : case. we had not seen as evidence. there are big _ case. we had not seen as evidence. there are big gaps _ case. we had not seen as evidence. there are big gaps in _ case. we had not seen as evidence. there are big gaps in the _ case. we had not seen as evidence. there are big gaps in the evidence. | there are big gaps in the evidence. we understand how kony has been reported to have been chucked out of his accommodation for drug abuse. why was he not tested? because we know strong cannabis use can lead to psychosis was that this element was just accepted. we had to take their

word that it has been investigated. we have not had openjustice in this case. most people with serious mental health problem are not violent but some are and they need more assertive care and treatment. you cannotjust wash your hands of them. they need to be followed up assertively to mention they take their medication. part assertively to mention they take their medication.— assertively to mention they take their medication. part of the issue in this case. _ their medication. part of the issue in this case, this _ their medication. part of the issue in this case, this man _ their medication. part of the issue in this case, this man effectively l in this case, this man effectively stepped away from the mental health provision. fithd stepped away from the mental health trovision. : , provision. and they said fine. because he — provision. and they said fine. because he was _ provision. and they said fine. because he was not - provision. and they said fine. because he was not believed | provision. and they said fine. i because he was not believed to provision. and they said fine. - because he was not believed to be a threat two he had attacked a policeman. i understand what you are saying. he policeman. i understand what you are sa int. :. :. policeman. i understand what you are saint. :, :, ,:_ policeman. i understand what you are saint. :, :, ,:, , :, saying. he had a history of violence- _ saying. he had a history of violence. he _ saying. he had a history of violence. he attacked - saying. he had a history of violence. he attacked his l saying. he had a history of- violence. he attacked his flatmates and a policeman. he was known as a psychiatric patient, who had been previously violent. because he did not engage with them, he said that is fine. i support the call for a full public inquiry so all of this

can be tested in public, not behind closed doors so we can actually get some lessons. the main point is all the family say we do not want this to happen to anyone else.- the family say we do not want this to happen to anyone else. julian, we saw a moment _ to happen to anyone else. julian, we saw a moment ago, _ to happen to anyone else. julian, we saw a moment ago, the _ to happen to anyone else. julian, we saw a moment ago, the remarkable | saw a moment ago, the remarkable composure of the families. you have spent a lot of time with them, i know, during the trial and immediately afterwards. you spoke about their anger. in a way, maybe thatis about their anger. in a way, maybe that is the part of this equation we haven't really seen. they are trying to deal with extraordinary nations, the dreadful incident that took place and now the trial itself. what are you hearing from them now? i dare say we will hear more from the families over the coming days. these are brave and — families over the coming days. these are brave and courageous _ families over the coming days. tire are brave and courageous people. they had a big support network. they are professionals. the family of grace our doctors. they know how to

ask questions. they are serious people and they want answers. fit, ask questions. they are serious people and they want answers. a very difficult time — people and they want answers. a very difficult time for _ people and they want answers. a very difficult time for them. _ people and they want answers. a very difficult time for them. difficult - difficult time for them. difficult for all of them. _ difficult time for them. difficult for all of them. most _ difficult time for them. difficult for all of them. most families i difficult time for them. difficult i for all of them. most families are so traumatised by what happened, they cannot... it should not be for families to have to battle what is going on. tt t families to have to battle what is ttoin on. . families to have to battle what is ttoin on. , :, families to have to battle what is ttoinon. , :, , , going on. if i 'ust read rob griffin from going on. if i just read rob griffin from nottingham _ going on. if i just read rob griffin from nottingham police, - going on. if i just read rob griffin from nottingham police, chief. from nottingham police, chief constable. one thing he said, of course an arrest, this is going back as to what happened. an arrest might have triggered a route back into mental health services. as we have seen from his previous encounters with those services, it seems unlikely he would have engaged in process. that is talking about calicane. he process. that is talking about calicane. . ,, process. that is talking about calicane. , , calicane. he is passing the buck. i had dealt with _ calicane. he is passing the buck. i had dealt with 250 _ calicane. he is passing the buck. i had dealt with 250 families, - calicane. he is passing the buck. i had dealt with 250 families, it -

had dealt with 250 families, it happens twice a week in the uk. what we see is services saying it is not myjob, to somebody else's. the police are not mental health training. a difficultjob for the police. how often they will say this is dangerous, it is a police job, police. how often they will say this is dangerous, it is a policejob, it is dangerous, it is a policejob, it is not us, it is mental health. people are falling through the cracks and it is not safe. tt people are falling through the cracks and it is not safe. if there is one thing _ cracks and it is not safe. if there is one thing you _ cracks and it is not safe. if there is one thing you could _ cracks and it is not safe. if there is one thing you could change i cracks and it is not safe. if there i is one thing you could change about the current system to try to look after their families, the current system to try to look after theirfamilies, the bereaved after their families, the bereaved families after theirfamilies, the bereaved families and victims who are still living. let's not forget them, who have lifelong mental and physical injuries. what would the thing be? they need to be more joined injuries. what would the thing be? they need to be morejoined up, share information and talk to families. we have been hearing this for 30 years. they need to improve, they need more money, mental health services. all public health services need more money but they need to do better. lessons are not being

learned i may need to be. i have a public inquiry will help to achieve that. :. .. public inquiry will help to achieve that. :, «i , :, :, public inquiry will help to achieve that. :, «i :, :, ,, public inquiry will help to achieve that. :, ~' :, :, ~' :, public inquiry will help to achieve that. :, «i :, :, ,, :, , that. thank you for talking to us this morning. _ that. thank you for talking to us this morning. thank— you for your time this morning. i just want to read a couple of lines from the cps. they referred to calicane saying his pleas for manslaughter were only accepted after careful analysis of the evidence. expert medical evidence was overwhelming, join this lengthy and complex sentencing exercise. we have made it clear that calicane was criminally responsible for what he did regardless of his mental health on his culpability. he is a football and broadcasting legend. but chris kamara, who played for nine different clubs before becoming one of the uk's most recognisable pundits, long hid a secret. chris suffers from apraxia, a chronic condition which affects his speech. stuart whincup spoke with him about the challenges of the condition — and the impact of a transformative new treatment.

and is the much—travelled... he's been a player, a manager and a pundit. one of football's biggest characters. unbelievable, jeff. surprise, surprise! unbelievable, jeff. you are not going to believe this. but, at the height of his fame, he started to struggle with his speech. he spent more time alone and only talked in soundbites. for a long time, he hid his illness from everyone. you don't want to believe that something is happening to you. i should have firstly told my wife and then my family. by holding it to myself and keeping it in the brain, the mental side of it was ruining my head. i read at the time you said you felt wrongfully, as you said, now, embarrassed and ashamed. yeah, i was. and that was the thing. how can a broadcaster come out and say he's got a speech problem?

he can't talk properly. it'll affect myjob. and i was embarrassed, ashamed. and i apologise now to everybody, who's got a speech condition. and i saw a therapist and he said, "the day you accept your condition is the day you start healing." and it was so true. last year, chris went to mexico for groundbreaking medical treatment that had never been used for people with speech apraxia. it's like radiowaves into your brain. and i can honestly say, "well, you can hear now, i've got the fluency back. " maybe i haven't got the speed back. i was the guinea pig as far as apraxia is concerned, and it's obviously worked. so that's the reason why i'm going back.

and you're going to go back next month. yeah, hopefully in february, yeah. as you say, you've campaigned now for more — particularly children — not getting the support, the treatment they need. how important is that to you? i had loads of help to help me. i got the opportunity with my profile to help other people. so i was getting letters and e—mails, saying that we had an appointment when he was four—year—old and we've had nothing since. he's seven—year—old now. i'll start with the children first and hopefully get on to the adults later. part of that campaigning, the charity work, obviously your football career. so you get an mbe last year. what did that mean to you? yeah, well, first i didn't think i was worth it and my family told me i was.

and then prince william, who gave it to me, told me i was well worth it. he's an aston villa fan, but he watched soccer saturday and was as delighted to meet me as i was him, so i accepted it gracefully. so much respect for chris kamara speaking out about that particular condition. how do you manage your way through a process like divorce? it is always challenging for families. now, after consultation, the government have scrapped plans to make "mediation" mandatory for separating families in england and wales. it was previously considered as a way to reduce the backlog of cases going through the family courts. there were more than 60,000 cases in the family courts in 2022. mandatory mediation would have meant the couple would have had to sit down with a lawyer before going to court

to see if they could settle finances and child arrangements peacefully. instead, families who are separating will benefit from early legal advice and the continued rollout of a pilot to better support domestic abuse victims and children. we've been speaking to dr mike talbot, the chief executive of uk mediation who explained why mandatory mediation could have been difficult to implement. there is a balance to be struck between access to justice, making sure people are afforded their rights in law when they're divorcing or separating. the second is ensuring that vulnerable parties are protected and that a weaker party is not strong—armed into making an agreement that they otherwise wouldn't make. and the third thing really is the empowerment that can come through mediation. and in mediation, parties get to decide their own settlement terms and come up with an agreement, an agreement often created which suits them, and their property, finances and children. i think we've seen this u—turn. the government has decided they should give greater primacy to the need to vulnerable parties.

we'rejoined now byjo edwards who is a mediation specialist from the family lawyers organisation resolution. good morning to you. you would think on the face of it, trying to encourage mediation is a good thing but obviously this is fraught with problems for some couples? to be clear, resolution _ problems for some couples? to be clear, resolution is _ problems for some couples? to be clear, resolution is supportive - problems for some couples? to be clear, resolution is supportive of i clear, resolution is supportive of mediation — clear, resolution is supportive of mediation and we have lots of mediation and we have lots of mediation among our members and i'm a niedialor_ mediation among our members and i'm a mediator myself but what was difficult — a mediator myself but what was difficult about the proposal of mandatory mediation is partly mediation is fundamentally a voluntary process, there was a significant _ voluntary process, there was a significant concern about victims of domestic— significant concern about victims of domestic abuse feeling forced into a situation _ domestic abuse feeling forced into a situation that wasn't supportive of them. _ situation that wasn't supportive of them. and — situation that wasn't supportive of them, and the longevity of the agreement, if it was reached in circumstances people felt forced

entry _ circumstances people felt forced entry. resolution has set for ten years— entry. resolution has set for ten years whal — entry. resolution has set for ten years what is needed is a raft of initial— years what is needed is a raft of initial legal advice, legal ache culs _ initial legal advice, legal ache culs -- — initial legal advice, legal ache cuts —— legal aid cuts in the crisis in the _ cuts —— legal aid cuts in the crisis in the family— cuts —— legal aid cuts in the crisis in the family courts has worsened, we have _ in the family courts has worsened, we have parents who don't know where to turn. _ we have parents who don't know where to turn. they— we have parents who don't know where to turn, they are fearful and do not know— to turn, they are fearful and do not know their— to turn, they are fearful and do not know their rights and responsibilities and they very much regard _ responsibilities and they very much regard court as being the first port of call— regard court as being the first port of call rather than a last resort and there _ of call rather than a last resort and there are 50,000 cases on average. — and there are 50,000 cases on average, children's cases going into court _ average, children's cases going into court every— average, children's cases going into court every year, parents are arguing — court every year, parents are arguing over arrangements for the children _ arguing over arrangements for the children. those not take an average of 47— children. those not take an average of 47 weeks— children. those not take an average of 47 weeks to resolve, a doubling in a six _ of 47 weeks to resolve, a doubling in a six year— of 47 weeks to resolve, a doubling in a six year period so imagine in the life _ in a six year period so imagine in the life of— in a six year period so imagine in the life ofa— in a six year period so imagine in the life of a child, almost a year, that feels— the life of a child, almost a year, that feels like a lifetime, and arrangements become embedded, there is conflict _ arrangements become embedded, there is conflict between parents for all of that _ is conflict between parents for all of that period and that rubs off on the children involved so it's got to

be welcomed, that there is now going to be reintroduced as we hope that initial— to be reintroduced as we hope that initial rafl — to be reintroduced as we hope that initial raft of advice and signposting for parents. i�*m initial raft of advice and sitn-ostint for tarents. �* signposting for parents. i'm looking at the comments _ signposting for parents. i'm looking at the comments of _ signposting for parents. i'm looking at the comments of the _ signposting for parents. i'm looking at the comments of the lord - at the comments of the lord chancellor and justice secretary who says there is no one size fits all approach for separating family so we are ensuring people have access to early legal advice and mediation to resolve this. the reform day reforms will help spur children long—term conflict of the courtroom so clarify for us what are your rights? early legal advice, free? you have to apply for it, how does it work? the detail is yet — apply for it, how does it work? the detail is yet to be confirmed, as is the funding, all we know is this is something — the funding, all we know is this is something that should be lodged by the summer but resolution has been piloling _ the summer but resolution has been piloling for _ the summer but resolution has been piloting for the last three or four years— piloting for the last three or four years and — piloting for the last three or four years and early legal advice process with the _ years and early legal advice process with the support of advice now and it's a _ with the support of advice now and it's a combination of online advice

and support and off—line advice from and support and off—line advice from a solicitor— and support and off—line advice from a solicitor and what we know it is important — a solicitor and what we know it is important is timely, affordable, tailored — important is timely, affordable, tailored legal advice, typically that will come as an information session— that will come as an information session initially so people know what _ session initially so people know what to — session initially so people know what to expect, they know what the rights _ what to expect, they know what the rights and _ what to expect, they know what the rights and responsibilities are but also the _ rights and responsibilities are but also the raptor process is available to them _ also the raptor process is available to them away from court. the affordable _ to them away from court. the affordable thing _ to them away from court. ti9 affordable thing jumped out at me because people think legal advice, expensive. {iii because people think legal advice, extensive. , because people think legal advice, extensive. �* :, expensive. of course, i'll make a cou-le expensive. of course, i'll make a coople of — expensive. of course, i'll make a couple of points _ expensive. of course, i'll make a couple of points if— expensive. of course, i'll make a couple of points if i _ expensive. of course, i'll make a couple of points if i may. - couple of points if i may. resolution scheme, will try to keep a proportionate and the cost of advice — a proportionate and the cost of advice is — a proportionate and the cost of advice is between £100 and £300, something like that, secondly a research — something like that, secondly a research project that was launched two months ago, for sure, 32% of people _ two months ago, for sure, 32% of people going through financial disputes or divorce access advice. the main — disputes or divorce access advice. the main reason they did notjust because — the main reason they did notjust because they are concerned about the cost of _ because they are concerned about the cost of legal advice but when we dug

deeper— cost of legal advice but when we dug deeper into that around a quarter of people _ deeper into that around a quarter of people because they incurred were less than— people because they incurred were less than £1000, another five were 1000- _ less than £1000, another five were 1000- £3000 and i less than £1000, another five were 1000— £3000 and i appreciate resources are different but it doesn't _ resources are different but it doesn't have to be costly. the point is unbundling the legal advice available and making sure it's available _ available and making sure it's available at the right point in time so people — available at the right point in time so people actually get the right support— so people actually get the right support when they need that. we support when they need that. shouldn't support when they need that. - shouldn't get away from the principle of mediation being a really helpful way forward if both parties are willing to engage, it can be quite successful.- parties are willing to engage, it can be quite successful. 10096, the government _ can be quite successful. 10096, the government has _ can be quite successful. 10096, the government has extended - can be quite successful. 10096, the government has extended its - government has extended its commitment to a 500 voucher per niediation — commitment to a 500 voucher per mediation scheme available to parents. — mediation scheme available to parents, hugely successful since it was launched in april 21 and will continue — was launched in april 21 and will continue to be successful, lots of alternatives available, collaborative practice, resolution lawyers — collaborative practice, resolution lawyers across the country are helping —

lawyers across the country are helping people day in and out to resolve — helping people day in and out to resolve parenting disputes so keeping — resolve parenting disputes so keeping things away from court is best for— keeping things away from court is best for the children all round. thank— best for the children all round. thank you _ best for the children all round. thank you so much for talking to us about this. the thank you so much for talking to us about this. . thank you so much for talking to us about this. , j~ ,': thank you so much for talking to us about this. , j~ g; :, about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the — about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the sport _ about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the sport for _ about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the sport for us. _ about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the sport for us. -- - about this. the time is 8:36am and mac has the sport for us. -- mike | mac has the sport for us. —— mike bushell. it's been a tough time for liverpool fans who are still coming to terms with the news that their manager, jurgen klopp, will leave the club at the end of the season. the 56—year—old says he is "convinced" leaving 'the reds' is the "right" choice. well, one fan who was particularly upset to hear the announcement was 12—year—old daire gorman who met klopp in a special visit to anfield last year. we'rejoined now by daire, his mum shelley, and sister aoife.

tell us where you were and what you are doing and how it left you feeling. t are doing and how it left you feelint. :. . :. are doing and how it left you feelin. :,, :, ,: are doing and how it left you feelin.. :,, :, ,: :,, are doing and how it left you feelin.. :, ,: , feeling. i was at school, i was 'ust about to get fl feeling. i was at school, i was 'ust about to get my i feeling. i was at school, i was 'ust about to get my lunch - feeling. i was at school, i was 'ust about to get my lunch break . feeling. i was at school, i wasjust about to get my lunch break when j feeling. i was at school, i wasjustl about to get my lunch break when i heard _ about to get my lunch break when i heard coming and i heard that juergen— heard coming and i heard that juergen klopp was sleeping and i didn't— juergen klopp was sleeping and i didn't believe it because my friend was a _ didn't believe it because my friend was a man — didn't believe it because my friend was a man united fan but it's true! how are _ was a man united fan but it's true! how are we — was a man united fan but it's true! how are we feeling for the rest of the day? t how are we feeling for the rest of the da ? :. . how are we feeling for the rest of theda ? :, the day? i was devastated. i couldn't do _ the day? i was devastated. i couldn't do anything - the day? i was devastated. i. couldn't do anything properly. i the day? i was devastated. i- couldn't do anything properly. i was thinking. _ couldn't do anything properly. i was thinking. is— couldn't do anything properly. i was thinking, is it real, but then i got home _ thinking, is it real, but then i got home to — thinking, is it real, but then i got home to see the was posted. i started — home to see the was posted. i started crying. home to see the was posted. i started crying-— home to see the was posted. i started crying. home to see the was posted. i started c int. : , :. started crying. and yeah, ether, did ou started crying. and yeah, ether, did you comfort — started crying. and yeah, ether, did you comfort each _ started crying. and yeah, ether, did you comfort each other— started crying. and yeah, ether, did you comfort each other after- started crying. and yeah, ether, did | you comfort each other after school? at least you can put your arms round each other~ — at least you can put your arms round each other-— at least you can put your arms round each other. mum, you've been trying to lift the mood _ each other. mum, you've been trying to lift the mood in _ each other. mum, you've been trying to lift the mood in the _ each other. mum, you've been trying

to lift the mood in the household. i to lift the mood in the household. but i said, you have and have had their— but i said, you have and have had their moment _ but i said, you have and have had their moment of— but i said, you have and have had their moment of a _ but i said, you have and have had their moment of a lifetime - but i said, you have and have had their moment of a lifetime with i their moment of a lifetime with juergen— their moment of a lifetime with juergen klopp. _ their moment of a lifetime with juergen klopp, daire, - their moment of a lifetime with juergen klopp, daire, and- their moment of a lifetime with juergen klopp, daire, and it- their moment of a lifetime withl juergen klopp, daire, and it was wonderful — juergen klopp, daire, and it was wonderful-— juergen klopp, daire, and it was wonderful. :, �* :, wonderful. you've done something really amazing _ wonderful. you've done something really amazing and _ wonderful. you've done something really amazing and spent _ wonderful. you've done something really amazing and spent time - wonderful. you've done something really amazing and spent time in i wonderful. you've done something i really amazing and spent time in the company ofjuergen klopp. hoist company ofjuergen klopp. how s-ecial company ofjuergen klopp. how special was _ company ofjuergen klopp. how special was it? _ company ofjuergen klopp. how specialwas it? i'm _ company ofjuergen klopp. how special was it? i'm a _ company ofjuergen klopp. how special was it? i'm a big liverpool fan and _ special was it? i'm a big liverpool fan and have been for a long time but to— fan and have been for a long time but to get— fan and have been for a long time but to get to meet the manager was bil but to get to meet the manager was big but— but to get to meet the manager was big but then to hear he was leaving, i'm disappointed but i'm thinking, i can say— i'm disappointed but i'm thinking, i can say i_ i'm disappointed but i'm thinking, i can say i have met him at his last year— can say i have met him at his last year at _ can say i have met him at his last year at liverpool.— can say i have met him at his last year at liverpool. what did he say to ou year at liverpool. what did he say to you and — year at liverpool. what did he say to you and what _ year at liverpool. what did he say to you and what do _ year at liverpool. what did he say to you and what do you _ year at liverpool. what did he say to you and what do you think - year at liverpool. what did he say i to you and what do you think makes him so special notjust as a manager but as a person. tt’s him so special not 'ust as a manager but as a person._ but as a person. it's 'ust so genuine. * but as a person. it's 'ust so genuine, nothing - but as a person. it's 'ust so genuine, nothing is . but as a person. it'sjust so genuine, nothing is put - but as a person. it'sjust so genuine, nothing is put on| but as a person. it'sjust so - genuine, nothing is put on with him. everything _ genuine, nothing is put on with him. everything he does is really genuine, it's not fake, he isjust such— genuine, it's not fake, he isjust such a _ genuine, it's not fake, he isjust such a nice _ genuine, it's not fake, he isjust such a nice person, as an actual human— such a nice person, as an actual human being, it was so surprising.

huge _ human being, it was so surprising. huge boots— human being, it was so surprising. huge boots to fill. what are your thoughts on who might be able to somehow replace him? at the end of the season, but not yet. tali; somehow replace him? at the end of the season, but not yet.— the season, but not yet. my first thoutht the season, but not yet. my first thought was _ the season, but not yet. my first thought was xavi _ the season, but not yet. my first thought was xavi alonso, - the season, but not yet. my first thought was xavi alonso, he - the season, but not yet. my first thought was xavi alonso, he is l thought was xavi alonso, he is working — thought was xavi alonso, he is working with bayern leverkusen. he is working with bayern leverkusen. he. is the working with bayern leverkusen. h9 is the favourite, he has done so well. i hope you can still have a decent weekend. go out and enjoy some fresh air, take your mind off it and at least he says, juergen klopp, he will never manage another english club again, he says even if he has no food left 80 will never manage another english club. take care, lovely to speak to you all and you will always have that memory to cherish, that special time, quality time withjuergen klopp at liverpool last year.

the fa cup holders manchester city are through to the fifth round of this season's competition after a controversial late goal gave them a 1—0 win over tottenham. the moment came in the 88th minute after kevin de bruyne's corner was touched in by nathan ake despite spurs' protests for a foul on the keeper. after a var check the goal stood and that was city's first goal and win at spurs in six visits. the other three ties will all need replays — bristol city against nottingham forest, and chelsea versus aston villa were both goalless. only one other game, had any goals in it and that was the match between championship sides sheffield wednesday and coventry city, which finished 1-1. coventry went ahead at hillsborough just before the break and how about this for a debut goal from new signing victor torp? coventry held on to that lead until six minutes from time when djeidi gersarma, squeezed in the equaliser, ensuring a replay. after a league match between the two teams last weekend, a man was arrested on suspicion of racially abusing the coventry player kasey palmer, and so the coventry players, took a knee, side by side, before the match in

a display of unity against racism. there were a few boos from the crowd but also widespread applause at hillsborough. england have been on a rescue mission, but it has been looking bleak for them in first test against india in hyderabad. the hosts showed their batting prowess, as they made 436 all out. so a big lead over england who remember managed 246 in theirfirst innings and in the second innings, it's been an uphill battle with five wickets tumbling, and joe root out for two and england still behind and heading it seems for defeat potentially on day three of this opening test. alfie hewitt has lost the men's wheelchair singles final at the australian open to japanese player tokito 0da. hewitt had been attempting to defend his title in australia after lifting the singles trophy for the first time last year but lost in straight sets.

however, hewitt will still leave melbourne with silverware as he and partner gordon reid were crowned men s doubles champions for a fifth successive time yesterday. he's now 17 and luke littler has cruised into the quarter—finals of the dutch masters against one of the home favourites, dirk van divenboder. the performance was farfrom his best but he finished in style with a 150 checkout. he'll face world champion, luke humphries, next in a repeat of the world championship final. and it was a clean sheet for the world number one as humphries raced to a 6—0 win overjermaine wattimena. britain's lando norris has signed a contract extension with mclaren which will keep him at the team "until at least the end of 2026". he made it onto the podium six times last season and finished sixth in the standings. norris had also been linked

with a move to champions red bull. feels great. i mean, i'm at home here. it's where i grew up, it's the team i supported when i was a kid. i'm at home, so to continue that journey, to continue our story together, with different teams. we always have little chats every now and then. every driver does. as soon as we, it was brought up, we spoke about, what is our plan together as mclaren between us both? it was quite a straightforward chat. a night of drama in rugby union as leicester tigers move into the premiership's top six for the first time this season, thanks to a 20—19 win over harlequins. mike brown scored the decisive try at twickenham stoop, putting the tigers back in front against his old side. but there was a dramatic ending with jarrod evans missing the chance to win it for harlequins in the final moments of the game.

my my goodness, millimetres away, despair for the fans. my goodness, millimetres away, despairfor the fans. thank my goodness, millimetres away, despair for the fans. thank you. the australian open women's singles final taking place at the moment. we will keep you in touch with that. thank you. it will keep you in touch with that. thank yon-— if you were watching breakfast last week, you may remember hearing about a call from campaigners for a change in the law to protect victims of pension and investment scams from being asked to pay tax on money stolen from them. hundreds of people say they're being victimised twice — first by the scammers who steal their money and then by hmrc. now, caroline nokes mp, the conservative co—chair of the all party parliamentary group on investment fraud, says what she thinks should happen next. we're asking for a pragmatic solution that looks at the individual cases separately and takes into account their individual circumstances and shows a bit of compassion towards them, and recognising that they're the victims of crime. these are not people who set

out to defraud hmrc. they were the victims of the fraudsters. radio 4 money box's dan whitworth joins us now. you're going to explain clearly. these are people who feel like they are being almost done over twice. the background to this case is essentially ten, 11, 12 years ago several— essentially ten, 11, 12 years ago several thousand people we do not know _ several thousand people we do not know the _ several thousand people we do not know the exact number, estimated to be the _ know the exact number, estimated to be the low— know the exact number, estimated to be the low thousands, were targeted by dishonest financial advisers under— by dishonest financial advisers under the terms and can make your investments work order for you, give them _ investments work order for you, give them to— investments work order for you, give them to us— investments work order for you, give them to us and i will not be liable to tax _ them to us and i will not be liable to tax that— them to us and i will not be liable to tax. that was all a lie. not only did these — to tax. that was all a lie. not only did these people lose tens of thousands of pounds, very often in some _ thousands of pounds, very often in some cases — thousands of pounds, very often in some cases it was more, eye watering nunibers _ some cases it was more, eye watering numbers in— some cases it was more, eye watering numbers. in the first instance they have _ numbers. in the first instance they have that — numbers. in the first instance they have that money stolen from them.

obviously _ have that money stolen from them. obviously that was horrific and incredibly traumatic but in a way, they were — incredibly traumatic but in a way, they were able to move on from that because _ they were able to move on from that because there was an end point, they have the _ because there was an end point, they have the money stolen, they had to try to _ have the money stolen, they had to try to get _ have the money stolen, they had to try to get over that but they say what _ try to get over that but they say what they'd been dealing with for the last— what they'd been dealing with for the last 12 or so years as hmrc has been _ the last 12 or so years as hmrc has been pursuing them in their words for tax _ been pursuing them in their words for tax on — been pursuing them in their words for tax on the money stolen because if you _ for tax on the money stolen because if you withdraw your pension early, certainly _ if you withdraw your pension early, certainly investments, if you are told you — certainly investments, if you are told you are not liable for tax on the hmrc— told you are not liable for tax on the hmrc says you are liable, what that means it's essentially these people _ that means it's essentially these people have had lots of money stolen and hmrc_ people have had lots of money stolen and hmrc is presenting them with an incredibly— and hmrc is presenting them with an incredibly large tax bill on that same — incredibly large tax bill on that same money. incredibly large tax bill on that same money-— incredibly large tax bill on that same money. incredibly large tax bill on that same mone . :, :, �* ~ same money. you wouldn't think it would be that _ same money. you wouldn't think it would be that difficult _ same money. you wouldn't think it would be that difficult to _ same money. you wouldn't think it would be that difficult to unpack. l would be that difficult to unpack. are they a clear record of the people who are affected by this? these are very complicated schemes, i've these are very complicated schemes, we given _ these are very complicated schemes, i've given you a brief overview but these _ i've given you a brief overview but these are — i've given you a brief overview but these are things that have been taken _ these are things that have been taken to— these are things that have been taken to tax tribunal is, hmrc has

been _ taken to tax tribunal is, hmrc has been working on them for years and that's— been working on them for years and that's where pressure on the victims comes— that's where pressure on the victims conies front — that's where pressure on the victims comes from. significant development this week. _ comes from. significant development this week, campaigners met at the treasury— this week, campaigners met at the treasury with hmrc officials, and nigel— treasury with hmrc officials, and nigel huddleston mp, and i've spoken to lots— nigel huddleston mp, and i've spoken to lots of— nigel huddleston mp, and i've spoken to lots of campaigners and they say they feel— to lots of campaigners and they say they feel there's lots more work to do but _ they feel there's lots more work to do but there are cautiously optimistic and i feel as though they are being _ optimistic and i feel as though they are being listened to on the door has been — are being listened to on the door has been opened a crack for the first time — has been opened a crack for the first time in ten years, there may be some — first time in ten years, there may be some kind of solution and when you borrow — be some kind of solution and when you borrow this down, this is about people _ you borrow this down, this is about people like — you borrow this down, this is about people like ross ferris, 58 firefighter, 23,000 point stolen back in— firefighter, 23,000 point stolen back in the day, he's been pursued in his— back in the day, he's been pursued in his words— back in the day, he's been pursued in his words by hmrc for a tax bill of around — in his words by hmrc for a tax bill of around £13,000, money he does not have _ of around £13,000, money he does not have. �* :, ~' of around £13,000, money he does not have. �* :, ,, , : :,, of around £13,000, money he does not have.�* :, ,, , : ~ have. i've worked since i was 16, alwa s have. i've worked since i was 16, always worked, _ have. i've worked since i was 16, always worked, always _ have. i've worked since i was 16, always worked, always paid - have. i've worked since i was 16, always worked, always paid tax. |

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him. this is constantly on my mind. and has been for the _ him. this is constantly on my mind. and has been for the last _ him. this is constantly on my mind. and has been for the last 11 - him. this is constantly on my mind. and has been for the last 11 years. i and has been for the last 11 years. on a _ and has been for the last 11 years. on a mental—health _ and has been for the last 11 years. on a mental—health side - and has been for the last 11 years. on a mental—health side of- and has been for the last 11 years. on a mental—health side of it, - and has been for the last 11 years. on a mental—health side of it, i. on a mental—health side of it, i cannot— on a mental—health side of it, i cannot tell— on a mental—health side of it, i cannot tell you _ on a mental—health side of it, i cannot tell you the _ on a mental—health side of it, i cannot tell you the impact - on a mental—health side of it, i cannot tell you the impact it. on a mental—health side of it, ii cannot tell you the impact it has but you — cannot tell you the impact it has but you know. _ cannot tell you the impact it has but you know, also, _ cannot tell you the impact it has but you know, also, you - cannot tell you the impact it has but you know, also, you have i cannot tell you the impact it has but you know, also, you have toj cannot tell you the impact it has - but you know, also, you have to also io but you know, also, you have to also go out _ but you know, also, you have to also go out to— but you know, also, you have to also go out to work. — but you know, also, you have to also go out to work, support _ but you know, also, you have to also go out to work, support a _ but you know, also, you have to also go out to work, support a family- but you know, also, you have to also go out to work, support a family and| go out to work, support a family and be a caring _ go out to work, support a family and be a caring father, _ go out to work, support a family and be a caring father, husband. - go out to work, support a family and be a caring father, husband. but- go out to work, support a family and be a caring father, husband. but it i be a caring father, husband. but it is very. _ be a caring father, husband. but it is very. very. _ be a caring father, husband. but it is very. very. very— be a caring father, husband. but it is very, very, very hard _ be a caring father, husband. but it is very, very, very hard to - be a caring father, husband. but it is very, very, very hard to put - is very, very, very hard to put yourself. _ is very, very, very hard to put yourself. to— is very, very, very hard to put yourself, to throw _ is very, very, very hard to put yourself, to throw yourself. is very, very, very hard to put. yourself, to throw yourself into is very, very, very hard to put - yourself, to throw yourself into all of those _ yourself, to throw yourself into all of those situations _ yourself, to throw yourself into all of those situations when - yourself, to throw yourself into all of those situations when really, i yourself, to throw yourself into all. of those situations when really, the rate is _ of those situations when really, the rate is so _ of those situations when really, the rate is so heavy— of those situations when really, the rate is so heavy on _ of those situations when really, the rate is so heavy on your _ of those situations when really, the rate is so heavy on your shoulders.| rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i don't _ rate is so heavy on your shoulders. idon't niind. — rate is so heavy on your shoulders. idon't mind. i_ rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i don't mind, i will— rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i don't mind, i will be _ rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i don't mind, i will be honest - rate is so heavy on your shoulders. i don't mind, i will be honest with. i don't mind, i will be honest with you. _ i don't mind, i will be honest with you. telling — i don't mind, i will be honest with you. telling you _ i don't mind, i will be honest with you, telling you this, _ i don't mind, i will be honest with you, telling you this, this - i don't mind, i will be honest with you, telling you this, this has - you, telling you this, this has broken — you, telling you this, this has broken nie _ you, telling you this, this has broken me— broken me. that's incredibly towerful broken me. that's incredibly powerful testimony - broken me. that's incredibly powerful testimony from - broken me. that's incredibly| powerful testimony from just broken me. that's incredibly - powerful testimony from just one of the victims — powerful testimony from just one of the victims and there's many others. the treasury — the victims and there's many others. the treasury told me it sympathises with victims and takes the well—being of our tax with victims and takes the well— being of our tax very seriously and anyone — well— being of our tax very seriously and anyone worried about any kind of

tax liability— and anyone worried about any kind of tax liability should contact hmrc to try and _ tax liability should contact hmrc to try and work through options. thank ou. you try and work through options. thank you- you can — try and work through options. thank you. you can hear— try and work through options. thank you. you can hear money _ try and work through options. thank you. you can hear money box - try and work through options. “tisha; you. you can hear money box later today on radio 4 at 12 noon. tt today on radio 4 at 12 noon. if someone is watching now and they don't want to know what happens in tatters last night. tum don't want to know what happens in tatters last night.— tatters last night. turn off your tv. tatters last night. turn off your tv, do tatters last night. turn off your tv. do not _ tatters last night. turn off your tv, do not watch, _ tatters last night. turn off your tv, do not watch, warning. - tatters last night. turn off your| tv, do not watch, warning. and tatters last night. turn off your - tv, do not watch, warning. and also, why were _ tv, do not watch, warning. and also, why were you — tv, do not watch, warning. and also, why were you not watching last night? — why were you not watching last night? it — why were you not watching last night? it was amazing. klaxon. now, spoiler alert, a warning — in just a few moments, we are going to speak to the winner, and two finalists of last nights nail—biting ending to the second series of the hit show, everyone is talking about, the traitors. yes, so if you are yet to catch it, leave the room for a minute — for those who did, here is a reminder of how last night's final unfolded. uh, i believe harry should be banished. yeah, i think with the suspicions

i have from andrew and previously, i'm going to stick with harry. i am a faithful. dramatic music. you've been absolutely brilliant. please leave the castle. faithful. harry, please reveal... are you a faithful or are you a traitor? lam... and since the start... dramatic pause. been a traitor. 0h! oh, my god. i'm the best traitor in the world. i hope molly didn't hear that!

if you were watching last night you will know we had to edit a little bit of molly's reaction! we are joined now by winner harry clark, alongside finalists mollie pearce and jaz singh. also, my days, the nation was on edge. it was only last night, what was it like for all of you watching back? it was it like for all of you watching back? :. . was it like for all of you watching back? :, , :, :, :, was it like for all of you watching back? :, :, :, :, , back? it was emotional. fairly intense. back? it was emotional. fairly intense- lt _ back? it was emotional. fairly intense. it happened - back? it was emotional. fairly intense. it happened quite - back? it was emotional. fairly intense. it happened quite a l back? it was emotional. fairly i intense. it happened quite a long time _ intense. it happened quite a long time ago — intense. it happened quite a long time ago hie— intense. it happened quite a long time ato. ~ :. intense. it happened quite a long time ao. . :, :, intense. it happened quite a long time ato. . :, :, ., time ago. we have had time to trocess time ago. we have had time to process it- _ time ago. we have had time to process it- it — time ago. we have had time to process it. it was _ time ago. we have had time to| process it. it was overwhelming time ago. we have had time to - process it. it was overwhelming but incredible — process it. it was overwhelming but incredible. we process it. it was overwhelming but incredible. ~ :, process it. it was overwhelming but incredible. . :, , ,, :, incredible. we sort of, 'ust like, a wave of “p— incredible. we sort of, 'ust like, a wave of up and h incredible. we sort of, 'ust like, a wave of up and down _ incredible. we sort of, just like, a wave of up and down all— incredible. we sort of, just like, a wave of up and down all day. - incredible. we sort of, just like, a wave of up and down all day. we l incredible. we sort of, just like, a - wave of up and down all day. we were happy— wave of up and down all day. we were happy together— wave of up and down all day. we were happy together and — wave of up and down all day. we were happy together and then _ wave of up and down all day. we were happy together and then crying - happy together and then crying together— happy together and then crying together and _ happy together and then crying together and then _ happy together and then crying together and then it— happy together and then crying together and then it was - happy together and then crying i together and then it was awkward happy together and then crying - together and then it was awkward and then it _ together and then it was awkward and then it was _ together and then it was awkward and then it was everyone _ together and then it was awkward and then it was everyone was _ together and then it was awkward and then it was everyone was happy- together and then it was awkward and then it was everyone was happy for. then it was everyone was happy for each other— then it was everyone was happy for each other again _ then it was everyone was happy for each other again so _ then it was everyone was happy for each other again so absolutely - each other again so absolutely

niental — each other again so absolutely mental. ~ :, , :, , mental. molly, the thing i really want to know, _ mental. molly, the thing i really want to know, when _ mental. molly, the thing i really want to know, when was - mental. molly, the thing i really want to know, when was the - mental. molly, the thing i really | want to know, when was the first time you saw harry again after the revelation and what was that first conversation lie? latte revelation and what was that first conversation lie?— revelation and what was that first conversation lie? we saw each other re conversation lie? we saw each other pretty soon — conversation lie? we saw each other pretty soon after— conversation lie? we saw each other pretty soon after and _ conversation lie? we saw each other pretty soon after and he _ conversation lie? we saw each other pretty soon after and he promised i conversation lie? we saw each other. pretty soon after and he promised me a holiday— pretty soon after and he promised me a holiday but we are fine. it was a game. _ a holiday but we are fine. it was a game. you — a holiday but we are fine. it was a game, you go in there with a chance, it's all— game, you go in there with a chance, it's all good _ game, you go in there with a chance, it's all good vibes here, right? i was it's all good vibes here, right? was really it's all good vibes here, right? i was really rooting for you it's all good vibes here, right? t was really rooting for you because you know this know from watching it, he would be saying things like, i can convince molly, she will believe anything i say and i saw a glimpse at the end that you were beginning to doubt him but he couldn't quite bring yourself to vote for him. your emotions are _ bring yourself to vote for him. your emotions are so _ bring yourself to vote for him. your emotions are so heightened and when you've _ emotions are so heightened and when you've trusted someone for that amount— you've trusted someone for that amount of— you've trusted someone for that amount of time, to change and switch up amount of time, to change and switch up on _ amount of time, to change and switch up on someone from one comment at the end _ up on someone from one comment at the end of— up on someone from one comment at the end of the game, itjust felt wrong _ the end of the game, itjust felt wrong to— the end of the game, itjust felt

wrong to me. and me and ja, i had some _ wrong to me. and me and ja, i had some suspicion with you but it was 'ust some suspicion with you but it was just crazy — some suspicion with you but it was 'ust cra . :. , some suspicion with you but it was 'ust cra . :, , :, :, just crazy. harry, good morning to ou. a just crazy. harry, good morning to you- a young _ just crazy. harry, good morning to you- a young man. _ just crazy. harry, good morning to you. a young man, you _ just crazy. harry, good morning to you. a young man, you look - just crazy. harry, good morning to you. a young man, you look for i just crazy. harry, good morning to you. a young man, you look for a | you. a young man, you look for a decent understanding and we know about you and your family but did you know you were that good at masquerading and holding secrets before this whole thing started? t before this whole thing started? i shot myself. i didn't realise i could — shot myself. i didn't realise i could like _ shot myself. i didn't realise i could like that _ shot myself. i didn't realise i could like that well - shot myself. i didn't realise i could like that well and - shot myself. i didn't realise i could like that well and keepj shot myself. i didn't realise i. could like that well and keep it shot myself. i didn't realise i- could like that well and keep it up. it could like that well and keep it up. it proved _ could like that well and keep it up. it proved to — could like that well and keep it up. it proved to make _ could like that well and keep it up. it proved to make the _ could like that well and keep it up. it proved to make the best - could like that well and keep it up. it proved to make the best thing i it proved to make the best thing about— it proved to make the best thing about it — it proved to make the best thing about it was _ it proved to make the best thing about it was i _ it proved to make the best thing about it was i had _ it proved to make the best thing about it was i had that— it proved to make the best thing about it was i had that strong. about it was i had that strong mentality. _ about it was i had that strong mentality. i— about it was i had that strong mentality, ijust— about it was i had that strong mentality, i just wanted - about it was i had that strong mentality, ijust wanted to i about it was i had that strong. mentality, ijust wanted to get about it was i had that strong - mentality, ijust wanted to get the 'ob mentality, ijust wanted to get the job done _ mentality, ijust wanted to get the job done and — mentality, ijust wanted to get the job done and put— mentality, ijust wanted to get the job done and put in— mentality, ijust wanted to get the job done and put in connections. mentality, ijust wanted to get the i job done and put in connections and emotions _ job done and put in connections and emotions behind _ job done and put in connections and emotions behind putting _ job done and put in connections and emotions behind putting the - job done and put in connections and emotions behind putting the other. emotions behind putting the other people _ emotions behind putting the other people around _ emotions behind putting the other people around me, _ emotions behind putting the other people around me, the _ emotions behind putting the other people around me, the emotions. emotions behind putting the other. people around me, the emotions at the forefront — people around me, the emotions at the forefront. and _ people around me, the emotions at the forefront. and getting - people around me, the emotions at the forefront. and getting the - people around me, the emotions at the forefront. and getting the job i the forefront. and getting the job done _ the forefront. and getting the job done it— the forefront. and getting the job done it made— the forefront. and getting the job done. it made me _ the forefront. and getting the job done. it made me take _ the forefront. and getting the job done. it made me take a - the forefront. and getting the job done. it made me take a step - the forefront. and getting the job. done. it made me take a step back and think. — done. it made me take a step back and think. but— done. it made me take a step back and think, but was _ done. it made me take a step back and think, but was actually- done. it made me take a step back and think, but was actually quite i and think, but was actually quite good _ and think, but was actually quite good and — and think, but was actually quite good and i— and think, but was actually quite good and i did _ and think, but was actually quite

good and i did not— and think, but was actually quite good and i did not expect - and think, but was actually quite good and i did not expect it- and think, but was actually quite. good and i did not expect it either because _ good and i did not expect it either because when _ good and i did not expect it either because when i— good and i did not expect it either because when i went _ good and i did not expect it either because when i went there, - good and i did not expect it either because when i went there, the i good and i did not expect it either. because when i went there, the first couple _ because when i went there, the first couple of— because when i went there, the first couple of days — because when i went there, the first couple of days i_ because when i went there, the first couple of days i was _ because when i went there, the first couple of days i was struggling, - because when i went there, the first couple of days i was struggling, you| couple of days i was struggling, you are lying _ couple of days i was struggling, you are lying to — couple of days i was struggling, you are lying to people _ couple of days i was struggling, you are lying to people and _ couple of days i was struggling, you are lying to people and building - are lying to people and building relationships— are lying to people and building relationships from _ are lying to people and building relationships from a _ are lying to people and building relationships from a light - are lying to people and building relationships from a light whichj are lying to people and building i relationships from a light which is the hardest — relationships from a light which is the hardest thing _ relationships from a light which is the hardest thing to _ relationships from a light which is the hardest thing to start - relationships from a light which is the hardest thing to start a - the hardest thing to start a friendship _ the hardest thing to start a friendship. yes, _ the hardest thing to start a friendship. yes, it- the hardest thing to start a friendship. yes, it was- the hardest thing to start a friendship. yes, it wasjustj the hardest thing to start a - friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz. we _ friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz. we will— friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, we will come _ friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, we will come to _ friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, we will come to you - friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, we will come to you in - friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. jaz, we will come to you in a - friendship. yes, it wasjust mad. - jaz, we will come to you in a moment but harry and molly, that final sequence, the two of you are left and you have to reveal and even in those final moments, you kept up the act. you were looking each other in the eye, he was looking you in the eye. the eye, he was looking you in the e e. �* :, :, the eye, he was looking you in the ee.�* :, :, :, :, the eye, he was looking you in the ee. :, :, :, :, but the eye, he was looking you in the eye-_ litut it - the eye, he was looking you in the eye-_ litut it was i eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was ttoin to eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was going to stay — eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was going to stay don't _ eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was going to stay don't stitch - eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was going to stay don't stitch me - eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was| going to stay don't stitch me up, eye. i'm not a traitor. but it was i going to stay don't stitch me up, i am getting — going to stay don't stitch me up, i am getting further— going to stay don't stitch me up, i am getting further and _ going to stay don't stitch me up, i am getting further and further- going to stay don't stitch me up, ii am getting further and further away from molly— am getting further and further away from mollyjust _ am getting further and further away from mollyjust in _ am getting further and further away from mollyjust in case _ am getting further and further away from mollyjust in case she - am getting further and further away from mollyjust in case she throwsi from mollyjust in case she throws me over— from mollyjust in case she throws me over the — from mollyjust in case she throws me over the balcony. _ from mollyjust in case she throws me over the balcony. but- from mollyjust in case she throws me over the balcony. but at- from mollyjust in case she throws me over the balcony. but at the i from mollyjust in case she throwsi me over the balcony. but at the end i me over the balcony. but at the end i had _ me over the balcony. but at the end i had to— me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give — me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it— me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it my— me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it my all. _ me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it my all. i— me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it my all. i had - me over the balcony. but at the end i had to give it my all. i had got - i had to give it my all. i had got that— i had to give it my all. i had got that far— i had to give it my all. i had got that far and _ i had to give it my all. i had got that far and wide _ i had to give it my all. i had got that far and wide for _ i had to give it my all. i had got that far and wide for that - i had to give it my all. i had got that far and wide for that long. i that far and wide for that long. might — that far and wide for that long. might as— that far and wide for that long. might as well— that far and wide for that long. might as well have _ that far and wide for that long. might as well have just - that far and wide for that long. might as well have just kept i that far and wide for that long. | might as well have just kept up that far and wide for that long. -

might as well have just kept up act. jaz, might as well have just kept up act. jaz. i_ might as well have just kept up act. jaz. i have — might as well have just kept up act. jaz. i have so— might as well have just kept up act. jaz, i have so much— might as well have just kept up act. jaz, i have so much respect- might as well have just kept up act. jaz, i have so much respect for- might as well have just kept up act. | jaz, i have so much respect for you, you've got this name now, your ability to work out what was going on, jaz christie, you knew you could not call out the traitor too aggressively because that would leave you with a target on your back and ifeel down leave you with a target on your back and i feel down to the last minute you played it as good as any faithful could but do you feel some sense of satisfaction from that? 100%. it's the type of game it so strategic. — 100%. it's the type of game it so strategic, you have to find balance and everything, at every opportunity, try and balance everything and if i went for harry or paul— everything and if i went for harry or paul or— everything and if i went for harry or paul or whoever i needed to go for, or paul or whoever i needed to go for. you _ or paul or whoever i needed to go for, you don't want to push it because _ for, you don't want to push it because everyone thinks why do you have such _ because everyone thinks why do you have such a — because everyone thinks why do you have such a strong agenda so that time _ have such a strong agenda so that time came. — have such a strong agenda so that time came, it came, it was very tough — time came, it came, it was very tough sort— time came, it came, it was very tough. sort of towards the end, it was really— tough. sort of towards the end, it was really a — tough. sort of towards the end, it

was really a difficult pill to swallow. but we have recovered. you sa ou swallow. but we have recovered. you say you have — swallow. but we have recovered. gm. say you have recovered because she had these amazing stories to tell and that is what has been so emotionally engaging but do you think your lives have changed now or are you looking forward to going back to some kind of normality? t back to some kind of normality? i think today has been crazy and everyone — think today has been crazy and everyone waking up and seeing what we have _ everyone waking up and seeing what we have known for so long butjust going _ we have known for so long butjust going to _ we have known for so long butjust going to enjoy the ride, i think. just take — going to enjoy the ride, i think. just take it _ going to enjoy the ride, i think. just take it for what it is, we've been _ just take it for what it is, we've been given— just take it for what it is, we've been given an _ just take it for what it is, we've been given an amazing - just take it for what it is, we've - been given an amazing opportunity and the _ been given an amazing opportunity and the game _ been given an amazing opportunity and the game revolves _ been given an amazing opportunity and the game revolves around - been given an amazing opportunity and the game revolves around like| been given an amazing opportunity. and the game revolves around like a lot, and the game revolves around like a lot. even— and the game revolves around like a lot, even speaking _ and the game revolves around like a lot, even speaking from _ and the game revolves around like a lot, even speaking from my - and the game revolves around like a| lot, even speaking from my personal experience. — lot, even speaking from my personal experience. you _ lot, even speaking from my personal experience. you can— lot, even speaking from my personal experience, you can have _ lot, even speaking from my personal experience, you can have all- lot, even speaking from my personal experience, you can have all the - experience, you can have all the gameplay— experience, you can have all the gameplay in _ experience, you can have all the gameplay in the _ experience, you can have all the gameplay in the world _ experience, you can have all the gameplay in the world but - experience, you can have all the gameplay in the world but you i experience, you can have all the . gameplay in the world but you need that lock _ gameplay in the world but you need that lock and — gameplay in the world but you need that lock and even _ gameplay in the world but you need that lock and even just _ gameplay in the world but you need that lock and even just for- gameplay in the world but you need that lock and even just for us - gameplay in the world but you need that lock and even just for us to - that lock and even just for us to .et that lock and even just for us to get there — that lock and even just for us to get there and _ that lock and even just for us to get there and make _ that lock and even just for us to get there and make the - that lock and even just for us to get there and make the cut- that lock and even just for us to get there and make the cut wasj that lock and even just for us to - get there and make the cut was luck so it's— get there and make the cut was luck so it'sjust _ get there and make the cut was luck so it's just all — get there and make the cut was luck so it's just all about _ get there and make the cut was luck so it's just all about enjoying - get there and make the cut was luck so it's just all about enjoying it - so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking _ so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking it— so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking it for— so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking it for what - so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking it for what it - so it'sjust all about enjoying it and taking it for what it does. i and taking it for what it does. harry. — and taking it for what it does. harry. a — and taking it for what it does. harry. a last _ and taking it for what it does. harry, a last thought - and taking it for what it does. harry, a last thought from - and taking it for what it does. i harry, a last thought from you, you're in the military, are you back to the dayjob? t

you're in the military, are you back to the dayjob?— to the day 'ob? i don't know, you tell me, to the day job? i don't know, you tell me. the _ to the day job? i don't know, you tell me, the army _ to the day job? i don't know, you tell me, the army has _ to the day job? i don't know, you tell me, the army has been - to the day job? i don't know, you - tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing _ tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me — tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to— tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to set _ tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to set myself— tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to set myself up - tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to set myself up for- tell me, the army has been amazing, allowing me to set myself up for thel allowing me to set myself up for the future _ allowing me to set myself up for the future because _ allowing me to set myself up for the future because you _ allowing me to set myself up for the future because you can _ allowing me to set myself up for the future because you can have - allowing me to set myself up for the future because you can have a - future because you can have a full-time _ future because you can have a full—time career— future because you can have a full—time career in— future because you can have a full—time career in the - future because you can have a full—time career in the army i future because you can have a i full—time career in the army but future because you can have a - full—time career in the army but i'm not sure _ full—time career in the army but i'm not sure whether— full—time career in the army but i'm not sure whether that _ full—time career in the army but i'm not sure whether that will— full—time career in the army but i'm not sure whether that will be - full—time career in the army but i'm not sure whether that will be my i not sure whether that will be my life is _ not sure whether that will be my life is such — not sure whether that will be my life is such right— not sure whether that will be my life is such right now— not sure whether that will be my life is such right now but - not sure whether that will be my life is such right now but they'vej life is such right now but they've supported — life is such right now but they've supported me _ life is such right now but they've supported me and _ life is such right now but they've supported me and things- life is such right now but they've supported me and things like . life is such right now but they've i supported me and things like this today— supported me and things like this today and — supported me and things like this today and trying _ supported me and things like this today and trying to _ supported me and things like this today and trying to set _ supported me and things like this today and trying to set myself - supported me and things like this today and trying to set myself up| today and trying to set myself up and my— today and trying to set myself up and my family for a _ today and trying to set myself up and my family for a better- today and trying to set myself up and my family for a better future| today and trying to set myself up i and my family for a better future so honestly. _ and my family for a better future so honestly. it— and my family for a better future so honestly. it was— and my family for a better future so honestly, it was more _ and my family for a better future so honestly, it was more going - and my family for a better future so honestly, it was more going back. and my family for a better future soj honestly, it was more going back to work monday— honestly, it was more going back to work monday to _ honestly, it was more going back to work monday to friday— honestly, it was more going back to work monday to friday because - honestly, it was more going back to work monday to friday because we i honestly, it was more going back to i work monday to friday because we all had to. _ work monday to friday because we all had to. we _ work monday to friday because we all had to. we had — work monday to friday because we all had to, we had normal— work monday to friday because we all had to, we had normal work, - work monday to friday because we all had to, we had normal work, we - work monday to friday because we all had to, we had normal work, we left, | had to, we had normal work, we left, did that _ had to, we had normal work, we left, did that experience _ had to, we had normal work, we left, did that experience in— had to, we had normal work, we left, did that experience in scotland - had to, we had normal work, we left, did that experience in scotland and i did that experience in scotland and then could — did that experience in scotland and then could not _ did that experience in scotland and then could not tell— did that experience in scotland and then could not tell anyone - did that experience in scotland and then could not tell anyone so - did that experience in scotland and then could not tell anyone so we i then could not tell anyone so we went _ then could not tell anyone so we went back — then could not tell anyone so we went back to _ then could not tell anyone so we went back to work, _ then could not tell anyone so we went back to work, the - then could not tell anyone so we went back to work, the weirdest| went back to work, the weirdest switch _ went back to work, the weirdest switch and — went back to work, the weirdest switch and now— went back to work, the weirdest switch and now it's _ went back to work, the weirdest switch and now it's gone - went back to work, the weirdest switch and now it's gone back. went back to work, the weirdestj switch and now it's gone back to crazy _ switch and now it's gone back to ci’a , , ., :, . " switch and now it's gone back to cra . :, crazy. good luck with whatever you do and thank _ crazy. good luck with whatever you do and thank you _ crazy. good luck with whatever you do and thank you for— crazy. good luck with whatever you do and thank you for giving - crazy. good luck with whatever you | do and thank you for giving families a moment to come together and enjoy something really special on the television. tt’s something really special on the television. �* . . something really special on the television. 3 , , ., television. it's been brilliant. thank you! — television. it's been brilliant. thank you! jaz _ television. it's been brilliant. thank you! jaz and _ television. it's been brilliant. thank you! jaz and molly - television. it's been brilliant. thank you! jaz and molly and j television. it's been brilliant. - thank you! jaz and molly and harry from the tv _ thank you! jaz and molly and harry from the tv programme _ thank you! jaz and molly and harry from the tv programme the - thank you! jaz and molly and harry i from the tv programme the traitors. your headlines are coming up. we

will see you in a moment. live from london, this is bbc news. donald trump says he'll appeal against a court order, telling him to pay $83 million in damages to a woman he defamed. israel insists it abides by international law, after the un's top court orders it to take steps to prevent acts of genocide in gaza.

and, calls for new laws in the us congress after explicit deep—fake images of taylor swift circulate on social media. hello and welcome. i'm catherine byaruhanga. donald trump says he'll appeal against a court order instructing him to pay $83 million in damages to a woman he defamed. ejean carroll had claimed the former us president had destroyed her reputation by saying she'd lied about him sexually assaulting her in the 1990s. she said the ruling was a "great victory for every woman." nada tawfik reports from new york. ejean carroll has now taken on donald trump twice in court, both times emerging victorious. last may, he was found liable for sexual abuse and defamation and ordered to pay her $5 million in damages.