rates would stay higher for longer to ease inflation. here's the chancellorjeremy hunt. the overall picture here is of inflation falling dramatically faster than most people predicted, and the economy being much stronger, with the bank of england upgrading its forecast for this year, next year, and thereafter. what that says is: we have taken difficult decisions, the plan is working, and now is not the time to junk that plan, borrowing £28 billion a year more as other parties want to do. we need to stick to the plan, because it is working. lets discuss some of those details with kallum pickering. a senior economist at ehrenberg. always good to have you with us. first of all let's talk about the shift in the votes, because this is the npc, it meets and they all discuss whether

they want to raise rates, keep them on hold or cut them. just explain that shift because it gives a sense of what could happen next.- that shift because it gives a sense of what could happen next. there are nine oli of what could happen next. there are nine policy members _ of what could happen next. there are nine policy members on _ of what could happen next. there are nine policy members on the - of what could happen next. there are l nine policy members on the committee and they all get a chance to decide whether they want rates to go up, down or stay the same. in the previous meeting in december, three of the nine wanted rates to go up, six would like to hold. to date you wanted to go up, one wanted to go down and six wanted to hold. this was a surprise to markets. markets basically expected a nod and wink from the bank of england to say that rates are properly going to come down this year. so the fact that one member has said we need to lower rents today provides a much stronger single that rates will fall soon. speaking of a nod and wink, we always obsess about the detail that is in a statement. what are they telling us without actually telling us? they have removed a key phrase from some of their guidance and that once again tells about how they are changing their thinking, and it is

all based around inflation. so price rises are starting to ease and they have a bit more wiggle room. that is riuht. the have a bit more wiggle room. that is right- the bank _ have a bit more wiggle room. that is right. the bank of _ have a bit more wiggle room. that is right. the bank of england _ have a bit more wiggle room. that is right. the bank of england thinks - right. the bank of england thinks that inflation will fall towards its 2% target over the next 18 months or so. in line with that, the bank of england are now no longer is signalling that interest rates may have to go up at least one or two more times. now they are saying that actually they are operably find where they are and they have signalled that actually they are now starting to contemplate when interest rates could come down. people might wonder why we are so concerned about what the bank of england is telling us it will do rather than worrying about what it is actually doing. well, most people who have a mortgage today don't have a floating rate mortgage. 90% have a fixed rate mortgage, and those mortgage rates are priced on expectations for interest rates, which is why the bank of england plays this game nowadays, where as in the past it was just a case of changing interest rates and that then would lead on to changes in the economy. the then would lead on to changes in the econom . �* . ~' then would lead on to changes in the econom . 1, ~ ., ., ., economy. the bank of england of course is an _ economy. the bank of england of course is an independent - economy. the bank of england of course is an independent of-

course is an independent of government, but in an election year for the politicians, they will be quite keen for inflation to start easing so that we have more cash in our pockets and interest rates to come down, particularly for those people who have a mortgage and are finding that they are paying more out every month just to service the mortgage. out every month 'ust to service the mortmae. . , ., mortgage. that is right. from the government's _ mortgage. that is right. from the government's point _ mortgage. that is right. from the government's point of— mortgage. that is right. from the government's point of view, - government's point of view, actually, i think it is more important that inflation comes down rather than the bank of england are lowering interest rates. i think the inflation story is much more important. and i would just think they're about the distribution of potential voters for the conservatives. homeowners, at least the majority, tend to vote conservative. it tends to be those who don't own a home that may be more sensitive to inflation and are more sensitive to inflation and are more likely to vote for labour. so i think that if the government could choose, it would prefer to have downsides to prices or positive outcomes on inflation rather than rate cuts. but both would be good for the economy. my hunch is that it's not going to lead into the election. my guess is that labour

win at later this year.— win at later this year. watch this sace. win at later this year. watch this space- polls _ win at later this year. watch this space. polls and _ win at later this year. watch this space. polls and pulls _ win at later this year. watch this space. polls and pulls and - win at later this year. watch this l space. polls and pulls and puddles will tell us what might happen in a big yearfor elections. will tell us what might happen in a big year for elections. kallum, will tell us what might happen in a big yearfor elections. kallum, good to have you with us. kallum pickering there. let's talk to our panel who are still with us tonight. peter, it is fascinating, isn't it, this? these things are outside of the control of government in some respect but they could determine who is in number ten later this year. i think it really is. it is completely fascinating thing. this is going to be a big part in the election campaign when it takes place, because one of the key labour messages is going to be, to millions of people who are going to vote, that your mortgage, if you are on a fixed rate mortgage which has changed this year, is going to be considerably greater. they will argue because of the brief and fairly kind of mixed premiership of liz truss. because there was a fiscal crisis connected to that. the conservative said that was connected to a wider increase in interest

rates, but who wins that battle is going to be very key to the election campaign. and yet as you say it is based on something which is not under the government's control. this is interesting — under the government's control. this is interesting to, _ under the government's control. this is interesting to, vis—a—vis the us election. president biden has a problem here, doesn't he? the economy is actually doing 0k in the us right now, that people don't feel better off, even though the jobs market is bouncing back, the economy is growing again, inflation is still a problem like it is in the uk. still a problem in the us. and that means that there is not a lot of wiggle room when it comes to what they do economically.— they do economically. well, the stock market _ they do economically. well, the stock market is _ they do economically. well, the stock market is seen _ they do economically. well, the stock market is seen record - they do economically. well, the i stock market is seen record highs they do economically. well, the - stock market is seen record highs in the united _ stock market is seen record highs in the united states. the industrial is seen record highs as well. the numbers— seen record highs as well. the numbers look really good, statistically speaking. in black and white _ statistically speaking. in black and white it_ statistically speaking. in black and white it looks like the biden administration has fixed the economy but when _ administration has fixed the economy but when you look at the situation of how _ but when you look at the situation of how the — but when you look at the situation of how the everyday american is feeling — of how the everyday american is feeling about the economy, it is pretty— feeling about the economy, it is pretty dire straits. and that, the administration is picking up on that

because _ administration is picking up on that because obviously they are in the thick— because obviously they are in the thick of— because obviously they are in the thick of the re—election campaign. and when— thick of the re—election campaign. and when reality is this, most americans_ and when reality is this, most americans are feeling the burn on their— americans are feeling the burn on their pocket books, whether the price _ their pocket books, whether the price of— their pocket books, whether the price of daily commodities, are just the sense _ price of daily commodities, are just the sense that they could move up like our— the sense that they could move up like our parent's generation did. the elder— like our parent's generation did. the elder millenniums for example. my generation is handcuffed to mortgages and we can't move out of the starter— mortgages and we can't move out of the starter homes like our parents could~ _ the starter homes like our parents could~ they— the starter homes like our parents could. they were switching homes every— could. they were switching homes every few — could. they were switching homes every few years because they could. and so _ every few years because they could. and so the _ every few years because they could. and so the sense of prosperity related — and so the sense of prosperity related to the economy, we americans unfairly— related to the economy, we americans unfairly blame whoever is in office at that _ unfairly blame whoever is in office at that moment. that isjust something that we do, even at the american — something that we do, even at the american president does not have a direct— american president does not have a direct tie _ american president does not have a direct tie to — american president does not have a direct tie to the economy. so, look, this federai— direct tie to the economy. so, look, this federal reserve chair for jerome — this federal reserve chair for jerome powell, for biden, this is a situation _ jerome powell, for biden, this is a situation in — jerome powell, for biden, this is a situation in which they have tried to do— situation in which they have tried to do everything to cool inflation here _ to do everything to cool inflation here and — to do everything to cool inflation here. and despite again the numbers on the _ here. and despite again the numbers on the paper, this administration fails to _ on the paper, this administration fails to make the case to the american _ fails to make the case to the american public about how economy will he _ american public about how economy will be any— american public about how economy will be any better under biden in the next — will be any better under biden in the next four years. we

will be any better under biden in the next four years.— will be any better under biden in the next four years. we are going to talk about some _ the next four years. we are going to talk about some other— the next four years. we are going to talk about some other differences i the next four years. we are going to talk about some other differences in generations injust a talk about some other differences in generations in just a second, talk about some other differences in generations injust a second, but for now, thank you to you both. around the world and across the uk, you are bbc news. bbc news bringing you different stories from across the uk. - in the heart of gateshead, thousands of solar panels, green energy we're all familiar with, but the innocuous hole in the ground might provide our next glimpse of the future. so this is one of our boreholes which goes 150 metres below ground into the old mine workings, brings the water up through the pipes into our heat pump centre over there. water pumped from underground has been warmed up by the earth's core. former colliery is now flooded, have an almost endless supply. and in the modest building across the road, mine water at 20 degrees is transferred to a huge six megawatt heat pump that is then boosted with electricity to heat water for domestic use. so far, 350 homes gateshead college, the baltic and even the glasshouse international centre

are powered this way. but will it catch on? for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. - as promised, let's return to that story suggesting that margin the boys and men regard feminism as harmful. let's get more details from meghan owen. some of the most striking stats in this study came from young men aged 16 to 29, or gen zs as we know them. now, more of them believe that feminism is harmful than older baby boomers. and i just want to take a closer look at some of those stats. one in four believe that it is harder to be a man than a woman, and one in six young men believe that feminism has done more harm than good. well, let's just take a listen to one of the researchers of the study. for the last four or five years we have started to see this gap emerge where young men seem to think

feminism has potentially done more harm than good in young women, and to begin with we thought that was a bit of a blip, but it seems pretty resilient. but now we are really noticing the strength of young women's feelings towards feminism itself. feeling perhaps strongly feminist themselves, so this gap between the youngest age group really is becoming more polarised. but why is this? well, the study asked about controversial social influencer andrew tate who is under investigation for alleged rape and human trafficking. and one in five young men said they had a positive view of him. now, one in three young men said they have a positive view ofjordan peterson, the controversial comedian and psychologist who has traditional opinions over issues such as gender roles. —— canadian psychologist. so how much has social media had a role to play in these polarised opinions? well, we saw herjust now in meghan's report, and i'm pleased to say i'm joined

now by rosie campbell. she is a professor of politics and director of the global institute for women's leadership, at kings college london and one of the researchers of this study. thank you, rosie, for being rivers again tonight. we heard the there. what will shock and surprise many people. what is behind this divide? well, it is intriguing and i have to say that our traditional survey measures may be at the best at trying to understand this. we used to ask people what newspaper you read as a kind of measure of the information we received. and i think that one thing we can see for sure is that this generation is a first generation that gets most of its information online, and i think that is probably not an accident that we are also seeing this polarisation. i can't prove that relationship at this stage. we are busy trying to dream up research projects which will help us to answer that question. will help us to answer that question-— will help us to answer that question. will help us to answer that ruestion. ., ., ., , question. that polarisation is true in so many _ question. that polarisation is true in so many fields, _ question. that polarisation is true in so many fields, isn't _ question. that polarisation is true in so many fields, isn't it, - question. that polarisation is true in so many fields, isn't it, when i question. that polarisation is true in so many fields, isn't it, when itj in so many fields, isn't it, when it

comes to discussing things done online? but there is also an element in this research as well suggesting that attitudes can change depending on where in your life cycle you are, whether you are working, studying, what your exposure to the real world is, and opinions may change. is that fair in this research too, that assessment? edit fair in this research too, that assessment?— fair in this research too, that assessment? , ., assessment? of course opinions can chance, assessment? of course opinions can change. that — assessment? of course opinions can change. that i _ assessment? of course opinions can change, that i would _ assessment? of course opinions can change, that i would not _ assessment? of course opinions can change, that i would not necessarily| change, that i would not necessarily think that this is going to be an automatically corrective thing in this gap between young men and women disappearing. without something else changing. if it is being driven by getting our information from different ways, and actually young men in push down some channels and young women push down others, that is not going to change unless we do something about it. unless we think about how we are talking to young men about gender equality and about feminism, not what it means to be a man today. so, yes, of course a lot could change, but it is not going to happen on its own. this could change, but it is not going to happen on its own.— could change, but it is not going to happen on its own. this is about men understanding _ happen on its own. this is about men understanding that _

happen on its own. this is about men understanding that inequality, - happen on its own. this is about men understanding that inequality, and i understanding that inequality, and that may only become evident perhaps in the world of work, for example, and i know for example be me too movement opened a lot of people's ice to that inequality and how unsafe many women feel in certain careers, and that sarah everard case which we talk so much about on the programme, that women feel unsafe going out at night. it is stories like that that really hammer home the divide and the difference in perception of the world. absolutely. horrific murders _ perception of the world. absolutely. horrific murders like _ perception of the world. absolutely. horrific murders like the _ perception of the world. absolutely. horrific murders like the one - perception of the world. absolutely. horrific murders like the one of- horrific murders like the one of sarah everard do mean that we tend to have conversations talking about how we organise our lives and how women organise their lives to avoid the risk of danger. that can be a moment where it is easy to step into each other�*s shoes but i think it has to go the other way too. young men are seeing more young women go to university and perhaps until they enter the world of work they are not seeing inequality, and we know that, for example, young men are more at risk of suicide than young women. i think we need to do more to talk

about how gender equality can make life better for men as well as for women. , , women. lets bring in the panel. peter, women. lets bring in the panel. peter. are _ women. lets bring in the panel. peter. are you _ women. lets bring in the panel. peter, are you surprised - women. lets bring in the panel. peter, are you surprised by - women. lets bring in the panel. peter, are you surprised by any| women. lets bring in the panel. i peter, are you surprised by any of this research? i mean, some of those stats there are astonishing. one in five men over say it is harder to be a man and a woman today. why is that? i a man and a woman today. why is that? ., ., a man and a woman today. why is that? . ., . , a man and a woman today. why is that? . ., i, ,, that? i am not necessarily surprised b that. i that? i am not necessarily surprised by that- i mean. _ that? i am not necessarily surprised by that. i mean, there _ that? i am not necessarily surprised by that. i mean, there has - that? i am not necessarily surprised by that. i mean, there has been - 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have. but one final thing, i don't i want to bad—mouth young people, i have. but one final thing, i don't - want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much— want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much not— want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much not a — want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much not a young _ want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much not a young person, - want to bad—mouth young people, i am very much not a young person, but - very much not a young person, but all of— very much not a young person, but all of the _ very much not a young person, but all of the young _ very much not a young person, but all of the young people _ very much not a young person, but all of the young people i— very much not a young person, but all of the young people i know- very much not a young person, but all of the young people i know are i all of the young people i know are so much _ all of the young people i know are so much more _ all of the young people i know are so much more tolerant— all of the young people i know are so much more tolerant and - all of the young people i know are so much more tolerant and liberal and ultimately— so much more tolerant and liberal and ultimately nicer— so much more tolerant and liberal and ultimately nicer than- so much more tolerant and liberal and ultimately nicer than young. and ultimately nicer than young people — and ultimately nicer than young people were _ and ultimately nicer than young people were when _ and ultimately nicer than young people were when i _ and ultimately nicer than young people were when i was - and ultimately nicer than young people were when i was young. j and ultimately nicer than young people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to — people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to talk _ people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to talk about _ people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to talk about the _ people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to talk about the sort - people were when i was young. rena, it is hard to talk about the sort of- it is hard to talk about the sort of issue without andrew tate being mentioned. the idea of toxic masculinity also coming out. and thatis masculinity also coming out. and that is the challenge, how to would not polarise opinion and to find

that consensus. is this just purely about education? it is that consensus. is this 'ust purely about education?h about education? it is not purely about education? it is not purely about education, _ about education? it is not purely about education, it _ about education? it is not purely about education, it is _ about education? it is not purely about education, it is always - about education? it is not purely l about education, it is always going to be _ about education, it is always going to be about exposure. and exposure is linked _ to be about exposure. and exposure is linked to, — to be about exposure. and exposure is linked to, of course, class and where _ is linked to, of course, class and where you — is linked to, of course, class and where you sit socioeconomic with. so money— where you sit socioeconomic with. so money also _ where you sit socioeconomic with. so money also has something to do with it but— money also has something to do with it but one _ money also has something to do with it but one thing we do see across the spectrum which i think is a problem — the spectrum which i think is a problem related to this very modern area where — problem related to this very modern area where technology is at our fingertips, pornography is highly accessible, here in the washington, dc area _ accessible, here in the washington, dc area in _ accessible, here in the washington, dc area in next—door virginia, our governor— dc area in next—door virginia, our governor has _ dc area in next—door virginia, our governor has made it challenging for people _ governor has made it challenging for people to _ governor has made it challenging for people to access the website upon hope for— people to access the website upon hope for example and has created state _ hope for example and has created state laws — hope for example and has created state laws with the legislator in order— state laws with the legislator in order to — state laws with the legislator in order to make it difficult again to access— order to make it difficult again to access certain types of content. i think— access certain types of content. i think the — access certain types of content. i think the objectification of women is going _ think the objectification of women is going to continue so long as we allow— is going to continue so long as we allow it— is going to continue so long as we allow it to — is going to continue so long as we allow it to continue as a society. there _ allow it to continue as a society. there are — allow it to continue as a society. there are so many classes within these _ there are so many classes within these united states, whether we are looking _ these united states, whether we are looking at— these united states, whether we are looking at rural or urban societies, where _ looking at rural or urban societies, where women are routinely

objectified. and as long as men continue — objectified. and as long as men continue to see that happen, they will see _ continue to see that happen, they will see the status of women as lesser— will see the status of women as lesser and _ will see the status of women as lesser and see them as less deserving, and continue to put up these _ deserving, and continue to put up these figures like andrew tate and others _ these figures like andrew tate and others whose names i don't want to mention— others whose names i don't want to mention right now, who go online spouting — mention right now, who go online spouting certain misogynistic messages, these people will be hailed _ messages, these people will be hailed as— messages, these people will be hailed as heroes are so long as we do not _ hailed as heroes are so long as we do not start— hailed as heroes are so long as we do not start to tear down the structure _ do not start to tear down the structure that props up the patriarch e.— structure that props up the atriarch e. , , , ., patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let ou patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let you go. _ patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let you go. you _ patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let you go, you talked _ patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let you go, you talked in - patriarch e. rosie, briefly, before i let you go, you talked in this - i let you go, you talked in this research about the importance of a positive father figure for young people. we positive father figure for young eo - le. ~ �* positive father figure for young --eole. �* ,, . , people. we didn't specifically look at that in this — people. we didn't specifically look at that in this research _ people. we didn't specifically look at that in this research actually, . at that in this research actually, that i am afraid i can't really comment on that. it that i am afraid i can't really comment on that.— that i am afraid i can't really comment on that. it must be important. — comment on that. it must be important, though, - comment on that. it must be important, though, if- comment on that. it must be important, though, if young | comment on that. it must be - important, though, if young men growing up have a strong father figure in their life, does that not play internet education point, that it is about one example they follow as they grow up in pretty formative

years, and to your point about their view changes when they get into the world of work, but it is about what young men should be in 202a. weill. world of work, but it is about what young men should be in 2024. well, i think involved _ young men should be in 2024. well, i think involved fatherhood _ young men should be in 2024. well, i think involved fatherhood is _ young men should be in 2024. well, i think involved fatherhood is really - think involved fatherhood is really a critical way that we can reframe this debate about masculinity. i think that is where gender equality can really progress. at the moment we talk about parents and we often default to mothers. and that excludes fathers from a lot of things, and i think that if we start to think about pair as mothers and fathers, that will be a benefit to men in the workplace and at home and we need to be doing that and that can be proactive to the cult of hyper masculinity which is actually pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so tood pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to — pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to have — pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to have you _ pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to have you with _ pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to have you with us. - pretty lonely for most men. rosie, so good to have you with us. rosie campbell, professor of politics in the global institute for women's leadership. gratefulto the global institute for women's leadership. grateful to you for being with us on the programme. now it is time for the panel. so let's talk about the issues that

are in the minds of our panellists tonight. peter, rena, peteryou have one which you are looking at names of heatwaves. this is like normally getting named, but why would we want name heatwaves? this getting named, but why would we want name heatwaves?— name heatwaves? this is what a committee _ name heatwaves? this is what a committee of — name heatwaves? this is what a committee of mps _ name heatwaves? this is what a committee of mps in _ name heatwaves? this is what a committee of mps in the - name heatwaves? this is what a committee of mps in the uk - name heatwaves? this is what a i committee of mps in the uk came name heatwaves? this is what a - committee of mps in the uk came up with _ committee of mps in the uk came up with i_ committee of mps in the uk came up with ithink— committee of mps in the uk came up with. ithink it committee of mps in the uk came up with. i think it is interesting the idea _ with. i think it is interesting the idea of— with. i think it is interesting the idea of naming storms is to get the salience _ idea of naming storms is to get the salience of— idea of naming storms is to get the salience of them amongst the public better— salience of them amongst the public better known so that people know there _ better known so that people know there is _ better known so that people know there is a — better known so that people know there is a risk on danger and to take _ there is a risk on danger and to take care _ there is a risk on danger and to take care. but heatwaves, certainly in places _ take care. but heatwaves, certainly in places like the uk and continental europe, will kill a lot more _ continental europe, will kill a lot more people, and yet they are just seen _ more people, and yet they are just seen as— more people, and yet they are just seen as something which people don't pay attention to. the heatwave which hit the _ pay attention to. the heatwave which hit the uk _ pay attention to. the heatwave which hit the uk and much of europe in 2022 _ hit the uk and much of europe in 2022 killed an estimated 4500 people in britain _ 2022 killed an estimated 4500 people in britain and across europe about 70,000 _ in britain and across europe about 70,000 people. it is a massive number— 70,000 people. it is a massive number of— 70,000 people. it is a massive number of people. it isjust that these _ number of people. it isjust that these are — number of people. it isjust that these are people who are often

older. — these are people who are often older, physically vulnerable, living on the _ older, physically vulnerable, living on the streets, who are less noticeable than, for example, somebody who was killed because they were blown into a river. i think it is a really— were blown into a river. i think it is a really interesting thing because _ is a really interesting thing because as the climate gets more extreme, — because as the climate gets more extreme, people need to watch out for things. — extreme, people need to watch out for things, and heat is a danger that people don't really pay a lot of attention to.— that people don't really pay a lot of attention to. really good point. rena, of attention to. really good point. rena. time _ of attention to. really good point. rena. time is— of attention to. really good point. rena, time is really _ of attention to. really good point. rena, time is really tight, - of attention to. really good point. rena, time is really tight, we - of attention to. really good point. | rena, time is really tight, we have about 45 seconds but we have heard a lot about prostates recently, why is that? ~ . ., ., lot about prostates recently, why is that? ., ,, . ._ lot about prostates recently, why is that? ., ,, . ., , ., lot about prostates recently, why is that? ., , . that? welcome a secretary of defence went missing — that? welcome a secretary of defence went missing in _ that? welcome a secretary of defence went missing in action _ that? welcome a secretary of defence went missing in action when _ that? welcome a secretary of defence went missing in action when he - went missing in action when he underwent treatment for prostate cancer, and i have been reminded on x, formerly known as twitter, that this is a cancer that people can still work through after being diagnosed and treated for. and it is particularly highly survivable. that is what the numbers show. i love this study that is out this week talking about how fitness is linked to lower incidences of prostate

cancer. there was a studyjust published the other day in the british journal of sports medicine and extract britishjournal of sports medicine and extract men from 1982 onwards, again, men exercise, if you have a man in your life, encourage them to get a prostate exam. it is a cancer which can be avoided.— which can be avoided. rena and peter, which can be avoided. rena and peter. good _ which can be avoided. rena and peter. good to _ which can be avoided. rena and peter, good to have _ which can be avoided. rena and peter, good to have you - which can be avoided. rena and peter, good to have you with i which can be avoided. rena andj peter, good to have you with us which can be avoided. rena and i peter, good to have you with us on the programme. thank you so much. now, big sports news in the uk today. british driver lewis hamilton is to make a shock move from mercedes to ferrari for the 2025 season. it follows years of rumours that the seven—time world champion would like a move to the italian giants. the 39—year—old only signed a new two—year deal with mercedes last summer. but it's understood he's chosen to exercise a break clause in that contract after just one year. live now to chetan pathak at our bbc sport centre. jetand, jet and, fascinated by this, because

as we said he has signed a two—year deal, here is not even yet in it and he is going to have to spend a year with his current team—mates before he makes the move. it could be a bit awkward, couldn't it? it he makes the move. it could be a bit awkward, couldn't it?— awkward, couldn't it? it could be, ben. awkward, couldn't it? it could be, ben- soap — awkward, couldn't it? it could be, ben- soap opera _ awkward, couldn't it? it could be, ben. soap opera drama, - awkward, couldn't it? it could be, ben. soap opera drama, formula| awkward, couldn't it? it could be, | ben. soap opera drama, formula1 awkward, couldn't it? it could be, - ben. soap opera drama, formula1 has ben. soap opera drama, formula 1 has been accused of being too predictable, maximus tappan dominating the sport with red bull, talk about this for a plot twist. we were not expecting to happen today. lewis hamiltonjoining ferrari for lewis hamilton joining ferrari for the lewis hamiltonjoining ferrari for the start of 2025 season, as you said, there have been rumours, links in the past, but it was very recently that lewis hamilton were saying that he would see out his career with mercedes. 39 years old, as you mention. six of the seven world titles he has won have been with mercedes, but they have had their struggles, haven't they? they have been in the shadow of red bull and maximus tappan and this has perhaps been a final throw of the dice for lewis hamilton. the lua and romance of a move to ferrari too much in the end for him to stay away from. but he has still got this

season, this upcoming season. we are only a few weeks away from preseason and yes, he is going to have to be there with mercedes, with toto, but i had kind words to say about each other today. i had kind words to say about each othertoday. but i had kind words to say about each other today. but it does make things quite awkward at the moment, also for george russell who has the other mercedes seat. but let me tell you what lewis hamilton has had to say in a statement tonight. he is so proud of the success he has achieved in 11 years with mercedes. the team has been a part of my life since i was 13 years old. it is a place where i have grown up to making a decision to leave it one of the hardest i have ever had to make. but at the time is right for me to take at the time is right for me to take a step and i am excited to be taking on a new challenge, and there is no doubt about it, as all f1 fans, lewis hamilton, we have talked about it so much but he is desperate for that eighth world title that so far ten. so far... the safety car got involved in abu dhabi and it still haunts lewis hamilton. he wants to win that eighth title and he could make history if he were to do it at

ferrari, he would become the first driver to win a formula 1 driver's title with three different teams. that is his ambition. he might be darkening 40 next year but he is still hungry for more success. i am lookin: at still hungry for more success. i am looking at that _ still hungry for more success. i am looking at that statement is you are, i am 100% committed to delivering the best performance i can do season. easier said than done when all of your team—mates and everyone you work with knows you are off to a rival next year. young adjust, and he is hungry for more success. why can't that happen with mercedes next season?— mercedes next season? well, their car, and mercedes next season? well, their car. and to — mercedes next season? well, their car. and to be _ mercedes next season? well, their car, and to be fair— mercedes next season? well, their car, and to be fair the _ mercedes next season? well, their car, and to be fair the ferrari - mercedes next season? well, their car, and to be fair the ferrari too, i car, and to be fair the ferrari too, was significantly behind red bull and their success last season. i don't think lewis hamilton's determination and his focus will be questioned, but it is very clear that his heart is now with ferrari. it also makes things fascinating at ferrari too, because carlos sainz is in that seat for this coming season. he knows he is going to lose it come the end of the season. fascinating dynamics to four charlotte claire who wants to win his first world title, but with lewis hamilton

coming the season after will he still be the main man? there are so many questions and so many storylines brewing for this coming season. and the timing of this as well, is extraordinary. we are a few weeks out like i said from preseason and one thing to remember, lewis hamilton is not scared of a gamble. over a decade ago many people wondered why he was leaving mclaren and going to mercedes. he felt that was the right decision for him ben kabaddi turned out in toto's team to be the most successful partnership in the history of the spot. so he has got a gamble right in the past. yes, this is going to be awkward and difficult going into the coming season, but lewis hamilton is looking at the long and he still feels there is a special story for him to write in the sport. but this time with ferrari. it him to write in the sport. but this time with ferrari.— time with ferrari. it really is fascinating. _ time with ferrari. it really is fascinating. so _ time with ferrari. it really is fascinating. so many - time with ferrari. it really is fascinating. so many big - fascinating. so many big personalities. so many titles. so much pressure. so much money in the sport. let's wait to see how this plays out. chetan, i know it'll keep you busy but for now, thank you,

from the bbc sport centre. full details of course, including the statement from lewis hamilton, are available on the bbc sport website. thank you for being with us on the programme tonight. we will do it at the same time my same place tomorrow. have a great evening, good night. i thought i would reflect a the storm which came across the north atlantic on wednesday and hit sweden and norway on wednesday night, bringing what looks like being record—breaking wins. sustained winds of 122 mph in parts of norway and 160 miles spell in sweden. unimaginable strength of wince. there were even stronger gusts. the gusts that we recorded were even much stronger than those that hit southern england in the great storm of 1987. one of the most powerful storms i have ever seen, this one. a lovely end to the day on thursday. a fine sunset at any of you spotted it. the clear skies eliminating the cloud out west. it is the cloud that

is going to be winning the battle, i suppose, over the next few hours. progressively turning cloudy with a patch to drizzle around. some rain into western scotland a bit mild air again flowing in of the atlantic. high pressure to the south and with reference to the north—west where it will be wind with gusts of wind reaching 50 odd miles per hour across northern scotland where it will be damp and literacy across western areas. a lot of plan to start the day elsewhere but given it been windy i suspect we will see sunny breaks breaking through across scotland and to the east of the pennines. probably eastern parts of wales and maybe eastern sides of other areas. wales and maybe eastern sides of otherareas. some wales and maybe eastern sides of other areas. some glimmers of sunshine but either way it'll be a very mild today. the air gets a little bit cooler across northern areas on saturday. i say cooler, temperatures coming closer to average. sunshine and showers working in here but again it is quite blustery with england and wales having the thickest of the cloud and patches of rain coming and going. temperatures 14 degrees again. well above average for this time of year. the average in london is nine. for sunday's forecast,

again we have the mild air with us but for crowd at this time. so probably a high chance of seeing some damp weather at times. the far north of scotland again quite blustery with showers working in here. for most of us, temperatures again on the mild side. ten to 14 degrees pretty widely. but after this mild run of weather, there might be something of a shock to the system to see the weather turning a lot colder next week. and for some of you, that means a return of seeing some snowfall. it is a little bit less certain just how cold it gets further southwards across england and wales, but it could be that we see some snow. for the time being, the models are picking up thick cloud with outbreaks of cold rain at times.