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this is bbc news, the headlines... the us and uk lead international airstrikes on iran backed houthi positions in yemen — in the latest response to attacks on red sea ships. it comes after the us launched strikes on 85 targets in syria and iraq on friday in response to a deadly drone attack on a us military base. the chilean authorities say at least 51 people are known to have died as a result of forest fires in central regions. chile's interior minister told reporters that the bodies of five people had been found on public roads, but that there were likely to be many more deaths in the coming hours. and the grammy awards — celebrating the best of the music industry — are set to be dominated by female artists with multiple nominations for chart stars taylor swift, olivia rodrigo, miley cyrus,
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lana del rey and ice spice. more now on the news that the united states and britain say they have carried out fresh strikes on more 130 targets linked to iran—backed houthi rebels in yemen. for more, let's speak to dr patrick bury defence and security expert at the university of bath and former nato analyst. thank you very much for being with us. do we know how thank you very much for being with us. do we know how they thank you very much for being with us. do we know how they are thank you very much for being with us. do we know how they are making their decisions about where to strike and whether or not these strikes are having any impact? goad strikes are having any impact? good morninu. strikes are having any impact? good morning- we — strikes are having any impact? good morning. we have _ strikes are having any impact? good morning. we have seen _ strikes are having any impact? (emf. morning. we have seen the strikes being cued over generally ten days. the 11th of january, the 22nd of january and the fourth and 5th of
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february. that time—lag allows the allies to get the battle damage assessment, work out if the strikes have been successful in terms of what they wanted to achieve and what else has been put on to the chessboard in terms of radar, mobile radar assets, potentially drone productions and therefore allowing them to target those. this latest round of attacks hit some targets in sana itself and some hardened, protected storage sites by using larger munitions. in this kind of situation, it has to be flexible. you are —— it is based on what is on the board in front of you. the lag between each of the strikes series is allowing them to assess and read target, etc. the is allowing them to assess and read target. etc— target, etc. the who fees have resnonded _ target, etc. the who fees have responded saying _ target, etc. the who fees have responded saying the - target, etc. the who fees have responded saying the air -
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target, etc. the who fees have l responded saying the air strikes will not deter them. —— the houthis. how confident are they the strikes will work? the how confident are they the strikes will work? ~ , , how confident are they the strikes will work? ~' , , ., will work? the key thing is iran. if it wants to — will work? the key thing is iran. if it wants to keep _ will work? the key thing is iran. if it wants to keep supplying - will work? the key thing is iran. if it wants to keep supplying radar i it wants to keep supplying radar systems and it keeps being destroyed, it becomes more difficult. it requires a different kind of military and intelligence targeting package on supplies coming in rather than the array on the coast and in yemen. what the allies here are trying to do is destroy enough of the stuff coming into signal to enough of the stuff coming into signalto iran, enough of the stuff coming into signal to iran, whatever you put in front of us, we will destroy. it is not worth it in the long run to keep doing it. ultimately, their next play is not so much about the houthis, who are very difficult to get to back down given their culture and the way they are set up in terms
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of society and the way they control a lot of the information space inside yemen. that is a difficult situation. if you can deter iran from keeping supplying the stuff, then perhaps things can calm down. obviously, our whole diplomatic peace going on at the moment in terms of hopefully a gaza ceasefire to take some of the oxygen out of the flames starting to burn across the flames starting to burn across the region. the flames starting to burn across the region-— the flames starting to burn across the reuion. ~ . ., ,, ~ the region. what impact do you think knee strikes — the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by _ the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by the _ the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by the us _ the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by the us and _ the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by the us and the - the region. what impact do you think knee strikes by the us and the uk i knee strikes by the us and the uk could have on those talks, there is very difficult sensitive talks taking place to try to secure the release of some of the hostages taken on october the 7th to try to bring forward or instigate some kind of peace or ceasefire in gaza? dear think the two are interlinked? will they had any impact? == think the two are interlinked? will they had any impact?— they had any impact? -- do you think. attempts _
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they had any impact? -- do you think. attempts have _ they had any impact? -- do you think. attempts have been - they had any impact? -- do you | think. attempts have been going they had any impact? -- do you - think. attempts have been going on to try to get a ceasefire. i also think that peace is important in terms of curing the military action. after the three us soldiers were killed last weekend when i was a long pause. some of that was due to diplomatic activity going on in and around paris, trying to get a ceasefire. if there is a ceasefire, it will calm things down. iran can still look strong to its proxies. also intensive diplomacy going on to iran directly from the west. there is a big chessboard going on at the moment. they are interlinked. some of that explains the queueing and the late targeting, then later targeting, of the militias in iraq and syria we saw on friday and now the houthis. it is very calibrated
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and telegraphed because it does not want to pitch the diplomatic activity in are hopeful being able to calm things down essentially overboard with more military action. thank you for being with us and for your analysis. no family in the country, probably none of you watching today, won't have been struck by the horror of what happened to brianna ghey, a 16—year—old with her life ahead of her, killed by two other teens almost exactly a year ago. on friday, her murderers, scarlettjenkinson and eddie ratcliffe, were sent to prison for their cime. they'd planned the killing on messaging apps. scarlett had searched out images of violence and torture on the dark corners of the internet. now, brianna's mum, esther ghey, wants to try to stop any other family from going through the same experience. she has been speaking to laura kuenssberg. she was absolutely full of life. she was such a character. she was... she was really, really outgoing. and shejust...
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she loved attention. she loved to be on tiktok. she loved having all of the likes that she used to receive. and she was the life and soul of the party, really. everybody knew brianna. anybody who ever met brianna would never forget her. you were in court, then, to hear the sentencing on friday of the two teenagers who took brianna's life. what was it like, being there? it was a difficult day, and it was hard to be in the courtroom because up until now we were in a public gallery, so we couldn't really see both scarlett and eddie. i made a conscious effort not to look at them both. i didn't want to see their faces. i didn't want to directly look at them and see what their reactions were. i feel that the sentence that the judge gave them was right. i don't think that scarlett will come out of prison, ever. i don't think there's any chance of rehabilitation. so i think that the
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sentencing was correct. she was given a minimum of 22 years. eddie ratcliffe was given a minimum of 20 years. do you think you would ever... can you ever imagine a time when you might forgive what they did? i don't carry any hate for either of them, because hate is such a harmful emotion to the person that's holding that. but with regards to forgiving them, i think that... no, no, no, not really. it's incredible to hear you say, though, you carry no hatred towards them, even though they took the life of your daughter. you know, they planned it. they discussed it on messaging apps. you know that scarlett had been on the dark web watching videos of violence and torture. and i think you've just shown then, again, that extraordinary compassion that people around the country have
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seen in the last few weeks. scarlett�*s mother has thanked you for your compassion. i wonder, did you see her in court? i've seen her, but we haven't come face to face. but when when i think of their emotions and how they're feeling, itjust brings back how i felt when all this happened in february. because, you know, she does she looks completely broken, really. and rightly so. she's going through an absolutely horrific time. is there anything that you would want to say to her? i think that i would like to say that... if she did want to contact me and she does want to speak, then i'm open to that. i'd like to understand more how their life was and what they they went through.
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—— was and what they — they went through. and i also want her to know that i don't blame her for what her child's done. and i also want her to know that i understand how difficult being a parent is in this current day and age, with technology, and phones, and the internet and how hard it is to actually monitor what your child is on. so if she ever wants to speak to me, i'm here. one of the things you've been extremely careful not to do is to allow brianna's death to be swept into what's often a very difficult conversation about how transgender people are treated. you did say, though, in your statement to the courts that this happened partly because one of the teenagers did have a hatred for transgender people. now, the court process is complete, do you believe that played a role? i believe that with eddie,
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there was hate there. there was hate for trans people. but i also think that he is a hateful boy, and i think that he would hate many people regardless. and so whether it was... i think it was a contributing factor. but i think he's just a hateful person. you have shown incredible strength in this terrible ordeal, that you and your family have been through. but i know now you want to turn your attention to some of the things that you would like to see change, to help other families and other teenagers with the challenges of living in the 21st century. what is it that you would like to change? so, i would like to see mobile phone companies take more responsibility. it's so difficult for parents now to safeguard their children. they carry a mobile phone
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in their pocket 21w. it's a smartphone with the internet, with all the different social media sites. and it's just so difficult to keep on top of what they're doing. so we've set up a petition which would like all families and parents to back and sign. —— which we'd like all families and parents to back and sign. we'd like a law introduced so that there are mobile phones that are suitable for under 16s. so if you're over 16, you can have an adult phone, but under the age of 16 you can have a children's phone which will not have all of the social media apps that are out there now. and also to have software that's automatically downloaded on a parent's phone, which links the children's phone and it can highlight key words. so if a child is searching the kind of words that scarlett and eddie were searching, and it would then flag
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upon the parents�* phone. there is software already available. i know that schools are already using this kind of software, so that if students do type something in that's concerning, it then flags up to the teachers. i feel like it's such a simple solution and i don't understand why we haven't actually done something like this already. why do you think that's needed? so, when brianna was with us, she struggled with her mental health. and i found out after she was actually on certain social media sites, on pro—anorexia sites and self—harm sites, which i wasn't aware of. it got to, when brianna turned around ia, it was so difficult to monitor her phone because she wanted that trust. and she was very protective over her phone. if she couldn't have accessed these sites, she wouldn't have suffered as much. and, like i said, they carry
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this phone around 21w, and it's just not doable for a parent to to monitor that. do you think if some of those safeguards had been in place now and there was a flagging system that might have picked up what scarlett and eddie were searching for, that brianna might have been safe? yeah. yeah, without a doubt. i think that, for either one, they wouldn't have been searching that in the first place. and, two, if they did search it, then the parents would know and they'd be able to get them some kind of help. one of the other things you'd like to see is teaching kids mindfulness in schools, to help them deal more with the challenges that come to us all. tell us what you would like to see. and i know also in warrington, in your town, you've managed already to raise lots of money to put this in place in local schools. yes, yes. so we've been...
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i've been campaigning with the warrington guardian to raise enough money to get a teacher in every school in warrington trained in mindfulness. it's such an important thing to be taught how to take care of your mental health, how to build mental resilience, and also how to be more empathetic. like, all of these things are skills that you can work on and that you can grow. well, we've got the education secretary on the programme today. i mean, what would you say to gillian keegan? would you want her to make it happen in every school? yeah, definitely. i think that mindfulness needs to be... really, ideally we don't need... we shouldn't only have one mindfulness teacher in every school. it should be completely embedded into the school system. and also this week, we saw parents in america confront mark zuckerberg, the boss of meta, which of course, owns facebook, and instagram and lots of those other big apps. if he was here, what would you say to him or other social media bosses?
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i think that the focus is always on making such a lot of money, and not really how we protect people, or how we can necessarily benefit society. and i think that greed needs to be taken out of the picture, and we need to focus a little bit more on how we can help each other. and, yeah, it was such a powerful thing to see the parents all standing up to them. it's quite out of control. i heard somebody once call the internet the wild west, and that's basically what it is. and we've kind of got our children, we threw them in, in the deep end of it. and, yes, something needs to change now. and i do feel like we are potentially at a tipping point where we can make things better. in your statement that you gave to the court, which was full of compassion, full of courage, also obviously you're expressing your sorrow.
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but you also wrote that you felt you failed brianna, by not being able to protect her. but, esther, no—one listening to you today could you imagine for a second that you failed her. and you speak with such conviction and and strength. why do you feel that way? cos... i think that as a parent... i'm all that brianna had, i was the one that was supposed to look after her. and, it was.... as i said before, about the issues that she had and the struggles that she had. it was difficult as a parent to go through that with her as well.
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and i think you can always look back and wish that you'd done things differently. maybe if i had done things differently, then this wouldn't have happened. next week it's a year, and i think you'll be holding a vigil. can you share with us what will be the happiest memory that you have, or the thing that you and your family remember most fondly, you and your other daughter, alisha? it sounds probably quite daft, but it's just being at home in our pyjamas, like, just relaxing together, watching something stupid on tv and eating pizza. that was her favourite food. good times don't have to cost anything. and the best times are the times when you're just completely relaxed, and just thinking of her at home and... popping her head in,
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in her little fluffy pink pyjamas. saying, "mum, can we have a domino's pizza?" and yeah, just being at home and being with her. and she was such a homebird. i think that's why it was so difficult, because she was just always there. she was always at home. when i came home, she would be home. and that's why the house felt so empty without her. but, yeah, the best memories are just the simple ones. it's been a huge privilege having you with us in the studio today and sharing your memories. please come back another time and tell us how your campaign is getting on. esther, thank you so much. thank you. british and american warships have shot down dozens of drones in recent weeks, as houthis continue to attack shipping routes in the red sea. here in the uk at the naval port of portsmouth, the crew of the royal navy destroyer hms duncan has been carrying out training drills in case of potential deployment to the middle east. james ingham joined them during one of their exercises.
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flash weapon release, northwest! this ship is under attack. whistle blows missile! spotted first on radar in this training exercise, the whistle tells hms duncan's operations room that electromagnetic activity has been detected, confirming it's a missile. hostile missile. a quick decision is taken to intercept, one of hms duncan's own sea viper missiles is launched by this controller. ultimately, i am waiting for that bit of a nod to take any inbound threats, yeah, and i deliver the good news. it's a position of responsibility, but it gives me pride knowing that we are trained to do a job and we're trained well to do thejob, and if we need to, we are willing to defend ourselves and any friendly
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consorts we are with. this is just an exercise, but the crew on hms duncan's sistership, hms diamond, has done this for real in the red sea. it has fired missiles at drones launched by houthis in yemen targeting commercial shipping. this is the first time viper missiles have been used in anger. i would imagine that hms diamond are feeling invigorated, they are doing something which is entirely worthwhile. it is at the forefront of our defence responsibilities to ensure that the international sea lanes remain open, and they are at the vanguard of protecting those sea lanes. i would imagine that they are feeling pretty proud of what they have done. but ships have been hit and damaged. this tanker caught fire when a missile struck last week. there is also a new threat from drones — they are relatively cheap and easy to produce. the navy's missiles are the opposite. so how does the decision get made whether to fire a million—pound weapon against a small drone?
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yes, missiles are a big and expensive thing, but if you are defending an even bigger and even more expensive civilian ship, for example, then a missile may well be deemed the most appropriate system to use. hms duncan is currently in portsmouth after spending five months with a nato task group in the mediterranean. you are approaching my position and i assess your actions to be threatening. but her crew continuing training, ready for their next deployment, knowing the red sea is a real possibility. most people are driven by duty and by doing something interesting and worthwhile. if we are required to go to the red sea, i would have a lot of confidence that the team would be up for the challenge, we would train on the way so that we can arrive in theatre in a very high state of readiness, ready to go. james ingham, bbc news. facebook is marking
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its 20th anniversary on sunday. it has grown from a network for harvard university students to one of the biggest online platforms in the world, but has come under increased pressure from regulators and rival companies. it helped usher in the era of social media but has also triggered concerns about fake news, the mental health of young users and the foundations of democracy. a little earlier, i spoke to dan sodergren, a technology and social media expert. he took me through facebook�*s journey so far. facebook is the grandfather of social media. so, 20 years for a tech company, they say tech companies are a bit like dog years, so it's like 140 years old. so it's almost unheard—of to be so old, right. you know, three billion users. there's something like seven or eight billion people on the planet and about four billion of them use the internet. so, facebook is this huge monopoly. i think, in fact, if you worked it out, if the amount of monthly users it has it'd be something like the third biggest country in the world. but as you say, it hasn't had it all its own way. you've got to remember, there were things like cambridge analytica that happened where it was accused
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and almost proven to unfortunately been swaying elections and doing other things, including in our own country with brexit and donald trump and all sorts of things. so facebook is very, very powerful. in fact, in some countries, facebook is the internet provider as well. however, it's now got a little bit kind of almost pedestrian as a social media thing, because it's just where everybody is. so, yeah, as you say, it hasn't had it all its own way. however, it's been very clever of course, because it brought in things like the "like" button. and most of the things you see on social media were brought in by facebook first. but of course it very cleverly bought its competition. so it bought things like instagram and whatsapp as well. so facebook, obviously now known as meta for the whole thing, really is a very, very clever company. and, unlike most tech companies, still run by the same founder and still going strong after 20 years. yeah, you say everybody�*s on it. isn't it a generational thing? i don't think really... do young people really use it, or are they all on tiktok and insta?
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well, this is the brilliant thing, isn't it? this is the difference between using it, of course, and being on it. and that's why i say everybody�*s on it, but it doesn't necessarily mean everyone's using it, right? so yeah, definitely there are massive generational changes, and tiktok and snapchat is where younger people are at and that's exactly what they're using, of course. but what facebook�*s very clever about doing is it's positioned itself as being the kind of the leader now for the metaverse. so it's looking at things like virtual reality, and this next generational leap, which is only going to be around the corner of course, because of things like artificial intelligence. so facebook is actually very well positioned. don't get me wrong, i'm not a massive facebook fan, i don't really use it that much myself. but you can see the power of the company because of how clever mark zuckerberg's been at predicting the future. and they're just about to do something new as well with artificial intelligence. they're about to give away their artificial intelligence for free, potentially undermining that whole industry and putting facebook in an even stronger position for the next ten years, which is why their stock prices, it's bounced the most in one day
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for any other company that's ever existed, and that only happened yesterday. broadcaster angela rippon has revealed that she suffered a "serious asthma attack" on stage during the strictly come dancing tour. the 79—year—old explained that she "stopped breathing" during a dance at a show in liverpool earlier this week, and had been on bed rest for two days. but she made a swift recovery and was back on the dance floor last night in manchester. and the pills have certainly worked their magic. and so i am... i can't say i'm fighting fit, but i'm certainly dancing fit. and so i'm ready to start rippon up the dance floor again! now it's time for a look at the weather with matt taylor. hello. despite the cloud and breeze, it's been a mild weekend for early february. some incredibly mild, worcester has seen temperatures hit 16 degrees.
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but winter is not done with us yet, the same spots next weekend will be in mid—single figures. and to get there it will be a complicated one, mild and cold air tustling it out from north to south, wiggling its way up and down across the country before the cold air wins out next weekend. in getting there, spells of wind and rain across the country at times. but as the cold air starts to win out from midweek onwards, sleet and snow possible, mainly on hills but even to lower levels later in the week. today, it's rain, mainly, particularly in western scotland, relentless. the heavier bursts of rain seen in northern ireland and northern england will ease off and a bit drier compared to the morning in the south. some breaks in the cloud but a blustery day wherever you are, winds up to 60mph in shetland. some sunny spells butjust 5 degrees here, whereas most of us will be in double figures, if not low—to—mid teens. tonight, many southern areas dry with clear skies around.
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relentless rain in western scotland, particularly the western highlands will be mounting up, over 150mm of rain in the next 36 hours. could be some flooding and travel disruption and even landslips. some of the rain turning to snow over the hills in northeast scotland but for many, a mild start to the morning rush hour, 10 degrees likely. there will be few more breaks tomorrow, eastern wales and central and eastern england to begin with, but light rain and drizzle here and there, especially the west coast and hills. northern scotland, the rain continues and heavy still in the western highlands. three degrees in shetland tomorrow, so turning colder, some of the rain turning to sleet and snow. more wintry weather on tuesday, the colder air pushing south through scotland, where there will be a bit more sunshine again. cloudy and outbreaks of rain and drizzle for england and wales, more persistent in the west later on, some of the driest weather for england and wales
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in the southeast, hitting 15. rain for a time in england and wales and northern ireland on tuesday night. drier, colder for wednesday and then more wet and windy weather on thursday. in the second half of the week, colder air interacts with that so it will turn to sleet and snow and a colder feel next weekend.
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live from london. this is bbc news. the us and uk lead international air strikes on iran backed houthi positions in yemen — in the latest response to attacks on red sea ships. a woman has died after being attacked by two dogs in essex. police say a man has been arrested following the attack in the village of jaywick. the mother of the murdered teenager, brianna ghey, is calling for a ban on access to social media apps for under—16s. if you are over 16 you can have an adult phone but under the age of 16 you can have a children's phone, which will not have all of the social media apps. parisians are voting on whether to triple the cost of parking suvs in the french capital, a move denounced as manipulative by motorist groups.

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