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this is bbc news, the headlines. the houthis in yemen say the latest american and british airstrikes on the country will not go unpunished. the third round ofjoint strikes hit 36 iran—backed rebel positions in the latest response to attacks on red sea ships. the capital, sana'a, was among the locations targeted. more than 50 people have been killed and over 1,000 homes destroyed in what's believed to be the deadliest wildfire on record in chile. president gabriel boric declares a state of emergency and makes "all necessary resources" available to tackle the situation. a woman killed in a dog attack in essex has been named as 68—year—old, esther martin. police say a man has been arrested following the attack in the village of jaywick. and the grammy awards —
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celebrating the best of the music industry — are set to be dominated by female artists with multiple nominations for chart stars, taylor swift, 0livia rodrigo, miley cyrus, lana del rey and ice spice. now on bbc news, it's time for today s sunday episode of newscast — with laura kuenssberg, paddy 0 connell and chris mason. hello, it's laura in the studio. paddy in the studio. and chris in belfast. it's fabulous to see you, you too created the newscast but others were involved.— others were involved. does it all come back _ others were involved. does it all come back to — others were involved. does it all come back to you _ others were involved. does it all come back to you because - others were involved. does it all| come back to you because brexit others were involved. does it all - come back to you because brexit was one of— come back to you because brexit was one of the _ come back to you because brexit was one of the big dividing lines, that is why—
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one of the big dividing lines, that is why you — one of the big dividing lines, that is why you are there.— is why you are there. true, absolutely. _ is why you are there. true, absolutely. the _ is why you are there. true, absolutely. the last - is why you are there. true, absolutely. the last couple is why you are there. true, i absolutely. the last couple of is why you are there. true, - absolutely. the last couple of days covering the story and in london before it, at ll covering the story and in london before it, at h was talking to cassia on the television and it really took me back to the brexit days of, particularly as far as northern ireland there was concerned, untangle the complexities of northern ireland politics and of brexit. put those two together and the spaghetti is nodded. mil brexit. put those two together and the spaghetti is nodded.— the spaghetti is nodded. all those ha - - the spaghetti is nodded. all those happy hours _ the spaghetti is nodded. all those happy hours we — the spaghetti is nodded. all those happy hours we spent _ the spaghetti is nodded. all those happy hours we spent talking - the spaghetti is nodded. all those l happy hours we spent talking about phytosanitary regulations and we will get to lots of that because lots of really interesting and historic things are played out at stormont and we shouldn't underestimate what happened. we had a talk with gillian smith about the importance of that moment and then i bet we will hear from you about what it has been likened what had has been going on. it is it has been likened what had has been going on-— it has been likened what had has been going on. it is a dominant part of our life on _ been going on. it is a dominant part of our life on radio _ been going on. it is a dominant part of our life on radio four, _ been going on. it is a dominant part of our life on radio four, listening i of our life on radio four, listening to the archive and going back 50
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years undermining us why we got the belfast good friday agreement and what stormont was meant to do so an absolutely classic addition for chris to be here. also this weekend there has been the most moving interview on bbc one conducted by you with the mum of breanna gi. esther ghey is one of the most remarkable people i have ever met. she is so courageous and filled with compassion. and she is incredibly dignified and clear minded and composed. despite having been through one of the worst things anybody could ever endure, losing your child in a violent and horrific way. and i started our conversation by asking for something happier, telling us what brianna was really like. ,, . , telling us what brianna was really like. ,, ., , , telling us what brianna was really like, ,, ., , , ., like. she was absolutely full of life, she was _ like. she was absolutely full of life, she was such _ like. she was absolutely full of life, she was such a _ like. she was absolutely full of life, she was such a character, | life, she was such a character, really outgoing. she loved attention
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and love to be on tick—tock and having all of the likes that she used to receive, she was life and soul of the party, really. everybody knew brianna and anybody who ever met brianna, they would never forget her. �* , ., ., , met brianna, they would never forget her. ., , her. and there is a horrible irony ri . ht her. and there is a horrible irony right from _ her. and there is a horrible irony right from the — her. and there is a horrible irony right from the start _ her. and there is a horrible irony right from the start here - her. and there is a horrible irony| right from the start here because brianna love to being online, she loved being on tick—tock and had 30,000 followers and yet her killers planned her murder on messaging apps. scarlettjenkinson, one of them, researched videos of violence and torture on the dark web as a young teenager. and now esther is trying to turn something positive in her view out of her appalling ordeal in are starting a campaign, the petition has gone live today to ban social media apps for under 16 is to
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create what she described as a child safe mobiles and to create a system where parents could get a flag if the child is looking for dangerous content online. it the child is looking for dangerous content online.— content online. it would be like a law introduced _ content online. it would be like a law introduced so _ content online. it would be like a law introduced so that _ content online. it would be like a law introduced so that there - content online. it would be like a law introduced so that there are l law introduced so that there are mobile phones suitable for under 16 is, so if you're over 16 you can have an adult phone but under the age of 16 you can have children's phone which will not have all of the social media apps that are out there now. and also to have software that is automatically downloaded on the parent's is automatically downloaded on the pa rent�*s full is automatically downloaded on the parent's full that links to the children's phone and can highlight keywords, so if a child is searching the kind of words that scarlett and eddie were searching, it would flag up eddie were searching, it would flag up on the parent's phone. there is software already available, i know schools are using this kind of software, so if students do tie pin
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something concerning it flags up to the teachers. ifeel like it something concerning it flags up to the teachers. i feel like it is such a simple solution and i don't understand why we haven't done something like this already. it is something like this already. it is strikin: to something like this already. it is striking to me _ something like this already. it is striking to me to _ something like this already. it is striking to me to listen because it is only— striking to me to listen because it is only a _ striking to me to listen because it is only a year since esther ghey was on bbc_ is only a year since esther ghey was on bbc one. — is only a year since esther ghey was on bbc one, controlling her emotions and talking _ on bbc one, controlling her emotions and talking to the nation. it has had a _ and talking to the nation. it has had a very— and talking to the nation. it has had a very big impact. chris, i wonder— had a very big impact. chris, i wonder if— had a very big impact. chris, i wonder if i_ had a very big impact. chris, i wonder if i can bring you in on something. 0ne viewer says i don't understand — something. 0ne viewer says i don't understand why there is so much dithering — understand why there is so much dithering about keeping children safe _ dithering about keeping children safe in— dithering about keeping children safe. in the netherlands mobile phones — safe. in the netherlands mobile phones are banned in schools and parents _ phones are banned in schools and parents should say no to their children. _ parents should say no to their children, that is their responsibility. the government say we are _ responsibility. the government say we are getting to this with our 0niine — we are getting to this with our 0nline safety bill despite the critics — 0nline safety bill despite the critics. , ., ., critics. they would. the online safety belt _ critics. they would. the online safety belt took _ critics. they would. the online safety belt took a _ critics. they would. the online safety belt took a long - critics. they would. the online safety belt took a long time i critics. they would. the online safety belt took a long time to critics. they would. the online - safety belt took a long time to work its way through parliamentary processes and i think there is a bigger picture point which is that politicians, and is notjust unique
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to the uk, but politicians are racing to try and keep up and frankly failing to keep up with the waves of technological revolution. and indeed how the various apps are used. 0bviously, yes, confront the big picture questions about trade—off between freedom and regulation and the extent to which the state feels comfortable embarking on restrictions, but i think to the bottom line is that colossal gap between the march of technology and the sluggish pace of legislation, because by the time something works its way through all of the consultations and discussions and debates and about terms and tweaks and reaches the statute book and becomes law the technology has sped on. ion and becomes law the technology has sed on. ., ., r' and becomes law the technology has sed on. . ., i. and becomes law the technology has sedon. ., ., sped on. can i ask you both, do you think someone _ sped on. can i ask you both, do you think someone of _ sped on. can i ask you both, do you think someone of the _ sped on. can i ask you both, do you think someone of the experience i sped on. can i ask you both, do you think someone of the experience of| think someone of the experience of esther— think someone of the experience of esther ghey is someone who can influence — esther ghey is someone who can influence public opinion and lead debate? — influence public opinion and lead debate? is that how this campaign will work—
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debate? is that how this campaign will work for her? it is debate? is that how this campaign will work for her?— will work for her? it is how previous — will work for her? it is how previous campaigns - will work for her? it is how previous campaigns have l will work for her? it is how- previous campaigns have worked. will work for her? it is how— previous campaigns have worked. we spoke yesterday about the bereaved families who have managed to get a change in the law so they will get access to their children's profile and information online. it was interesting, we asked gillian keegan whether they were ready to look at that radical action and they said, we will have to wait and see how the new law pans out. because it is a major change having that low in the statute book. it is a big deal. i do believe very strongly there will be lots of parents who have listened to esther this morning and thought, yes, that's what it's like in my house. ifight yes, that's what it's like in my house. i fight with yes, that's what it's like in my house. ifight with my yes, that's what it's like in my house. i fight with my kids about tech all the time. i do worry i can't control what they are seeing and accessing. i don't think i can properly be across what they are getting up to. how do we keep our children safe in the context of these incredibly powerful
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supercomputers that everybody is wandering around with in their pocket. i do think sometimes you get a voice, an individual, who can use the incredible power of their own experience to persuade and think of the work already done by ian russell. would we have had the 0nline safety bill? although it takes ages, would we have had it in the format we now have it had it not been for his courage and bravery in speaking out? the been for his courage and bravery in speaking out?— been for his courage and bravery in speaking out? the power listening to our speaking out? the power listening to your interview _ speaking out? the power listening to your interview this _ speaking out? the power listening to your interview this morning, - speaking out? the power listening to your interview this morning, of - your interview this morning, of course absolutely horrific and extreme and not therefore directly relatable to lots of parents but so many elements of the story will be and that sense of a lack of power for parents to be able to know what their children and teenagers are looking at, to have any idea of what is going on. i speak to some politicians at westminster who are grappling with this and wondering
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and ask themselves that fundamental question. what should be the role of the state and should it be, even if it might seem heavy handed to some, being willing to entertain entering a space where parents, in this instance, don't have the tools to be able to control.— able to control. justine greening was on the _ able to control. justine greening was on the show _ able to control. justine greening was on the show this _ able to control. justine greening was on the show this morning i able to control. justine greening i was on the show this morning and made an interesting point. she said in the end people banned cigarettes, in the end people banned cigarettes, in the end we ban alcohol for children. in in the end we ban alcohol for children. in the end we ban alcohol for children-— in the end we ban alcohol for children. , ., children. in the end we brought in film classification _ children. in the end we brought in film classification for _ children. in the end we brought in film classification for movies. - children. in the end we brought in film classification for movies. to i film classification for movies. to be film classification for movies. trr be completely clear i am not advocating for this but the question is, is there an appeal to millions of parents in this idea? answer yes. is there, to be cynicalfrom of parents in this idea? answer yes. is there, to be cynical from a political point of view, as there an opportunity for a politician who is willing to argue to go further? perhaps. and this morning i think when gillian keegan said, we are
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looking at banning phones in schools, and they are consulting on that and they do want that to happen but there will be a lot of people shouting at the telly and going, that's not real life, that's not happening. the government is going to have to force this to happen and when a newscaster e—mailed us, a question for gillian keegan, how is this compatible with a school day online? my daughter is 12, her timetables on a nap, i manage her dinner money online, her homework is logged on another app which directs you to other websites. if they finish work early in class they are told to do homework on one of these apps but school policy to take her phone out in school it will be confiscated and she will get demerits which i have to check on another app. demerits which i have to check on anotherapp. she demerits which i have to check on another app. she says she is confused, i am confused. 0n the one hand, this is the dilemma. technology has massive opportunities and positives but also brings massive risks and for many parents
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massive risks and for many parents massive dangers as they see it. it is very difficult for politicians to grapple with it but lots of families will be thinking, they are not getting it right. it will be thinking, they are not getting it right.— will be thinking, they are not getting it right. it reminds me of events. getting it right. it reminds me of events- we _ getting it right. it reminds me of events. we think— getting it right. it reminds me of events. we think we _ getting it right. it reminds me of events. we think we know - getting it right. it reminds me of events. we think we know how. getting it right. it reminds me of l events. we think we know how the political— events. we think we know how the political cycle and the election will play — political cycle and the election will play out and issue has come to -rip will play out and issue has come to grip us— will play out and issue has come to grip us as — will play out and issue has come to grip us as voters and not everyone, even _ grip us as voters and not everyone, even the _ grip us as voters and not everyone, even the clever people at the bbc, will be _ even the clever people at the bbc, will be able to see what the issues are that _ will be able to see what the issues are that will define public opinion this year — are that will define public opinion this ear. ~ , , ., ., this year. absolutely right and what is so powerful _ this year. absolutely right and what is so powerful about _ this year. absolutely right and what is so powerful about this _ this year. absolutely right and what is so powerful about this particularl is so powerful about this particular issue as it doesn't necessarily have to fall down particular party political tram tracks. the potential power of a campaign led with the extraordinary testimony we have heard today, and i was pausing to find an adequate word to describe it, does have the capacity to start shaping a campaign, and successful campaigns make political waves. so
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interesting picking up on that conversation about mobile phones in schools, and the argument about whether that can practically happen. is it realistic in 2024 that having a sort of off—line element to a teenager's life is even possible? if the answer to that as it probably isn't in most instances you are then into a very complicated conversation about the whole business of regulation, about parental consent and mirroring apps so parents can see what children are doing. that would be very difficult to make happen. it would be very difficult to make ha en. ., , , happen. it would be extremely difficult to _ happen. it would be extremely difficult to make _ happen. it would be extremely difficult to make it _ happen. it would be extremely difficult to make it happen - happen. it would be extremely difficult to make it happen and j happen. it would be extremely i difficult to make it happen and it is a really difficult issue. gillian keegan acknowledged it, saying this was one of the massive challenges for this generation of parents and we will have to see whether or not esther�*s campaign, back in parliament this week, there will be a debate in parliament about this this week. one her local mps
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charlotte nichols will be raising that debate. the position is that change .org .uk if you want to have a look at it. ijust think her compassion are something you don't often see a glimpse of and for me the most incredible moment of the interview was when she offered to go and meet the mother of scarlett jenkinson, who killed her daughter, to try and understand more about what was going on in that family, even while she's trying to cope with her own enormously.— even while she's trying to cope with her own enormously. when i think of their emotions _ her own enormously. when i think of their emotions and _ her own enormously. when i think of their emotions and how _ her own enormously. when i think of their emotions and how they - her own enormously. when i think of their emotions and how they are - their emotions and how they are feeling itjust brings back how i felt when all of this happened in february, because she looks completely broken, really, and rightly so. she is going through an absolutely horrific time. is rightly so. she is going through an absolutely horrific time.— absolutely horrific time. is there an hint absolutely horrific time. is there anything that — absolutely horrific time. is there anything that you _ absolutely horrific time. is there anything that you would - absolutely horrific time. is there anything that you would want i absolutely horrific time. is there anything that you would want to | absolutely horrific time. is there i anything that you would want to say to her? i
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anything that you would want to say to her? ., ., anything that you would want to say to her? ~ ., ., ~ ., to her? i think that i would like to sa that if to her? i think that i would like to say that if she _ to her? i think that i would like to say that if she did _ to her? i think that i would like to say that if she did want _ to her? i think that i would like to say that if she did want to - to her? i think that i would like to say that if she did want to contact j say that if she did want to contact me and she does want to speak then i am open to that. i would like to understand more how their life was and what they went through and i also want her to know that i don't blame herfor what also want her to know that i don't blame her for what her child also want her to know that i don't blame herfor what her child has done and i also want to know that i understand how difficult being a parent is in this current day and age with technology and phones and the internet and how hard it is to actually monitor what your child is on. so if she ever wants to speak to me i am here. just on. so if she ever wants to speak to me i am here-— me i am here. just picking up on what chris— me i am here. just picking up on what chris said, _ me i am here. just picking up on what chris said, trying _ me i am here. just picking up on what chris said, trying to - me i am here. just picking up on what chris said, trying to find i me i am here. just picking up on| what chris said, trying to find the words _ what chris said, trying to find the words for— what chris said, trying to find the words for this mother and what a job she is— words for this mother and what a job she is doing — words for this mother and what a job she is doing by coming out on bbc one _ she is doing by coming out on bbc one so _ she is doing by coming out on bbc one. so let's go to some viewers and
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newscasters — one. so let's go to some viewers and newscasters. john says the tears were _ newscasters. john says the tears were running down my cheeks listening. _ were running down my cheeks listening, the most amazing mum and most incredible person. thenjohn says it _ most incredible person. thenjohn says it is _ most incredible person. thenjohn says it is another example of the government not getting to grips with an issue _ government not getting to grips with an issue that has been around for years _ an issue that has been around for years. graham carter says, to your point _ years. graham carter says, to your point earlier, — years. graham carter says, to your point earlier, to me it is simple. take _ point earlier, to me it is simple. take the — point earlier, to me it is simple. take the laws relating to alcohol restriction and substitute smartphone for alcohol and 18 years of age _ smartphone for alcohol and 18 years of age to— smartphone for alcohol and 18 years of age to 16. bottom line is who buys _ of age to 16. bottom line is who buys lee — of age to 16. bottom line is who buys lee phones, the parents do and the buck— buys lee phones, the parents do and the buck stops with them. isn�*t buys lee phones, the parents do and the buck stops with them.— the buck stops with them. isn't it interesting. _ the buck stops with them. isn't it interesting, that _ the buck stops with them. isn't it interesting, that if _ the buck stops with them. isn't it interesting, that if those - interesting, that if those campaigning can make an argument like that begin to gather some momentum. whether you could, in a societal sense put that genie back in the bottle, given how normal the whole business of smartphones has been for this current generation, coupled with as we were hearing the whole question of the extent to which they are actually integral to day—to—day life and timetabling and
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dinner money and all the rest of it, but you can see the power of that parallel with other acknowledged societal harm is for young people where it is accepted and beyond political debate that there is an age defined band. that political debate that there is an age defined band.— political debate that there is an age defined band. that is meant to be an ace age defined band. that is meant to be an age restriction _ age defined band. that is meant to be an age restriction on _ age defined band. that is meant to be an age restriction on lots - age defined band. that is meant to be an age restriction on lots of- be an age restriction on lots of social media apps.— be an age restriction on lots of social media apps. there has been a focus on northern _ social media apps. there has been a focus on northern ireland _ social media apps. there has been a focus on northern ireland and - social media apps. there has been a focus on northern ireland and you i focus on northern ireland and you are in— focus on northern ireland and you are in belfast covering the stormont power—sharing return. was very hand of history— power—sharing return. was very hand of history on — power—sharing return. was very hand of history on your shoulder? the word history _ of history on your shoulder? tie: word history cropped up a little bit and of course that tony blair sound bite that wasn't meant to be a sound bite that wasn't meant to be a sound bite what was absolutely a sound bite what was absolutely a sound bite connected to northern ireland and the good friday agreement. the h word featured — and the good friday agreement. the h word featured quite _ and the good friday agreement. the h word featured quite a _ and the good friday agreement. the h word featured quite a bit _ and the good friday agreement. tie: f word featured quite a bit but it is one that reporters can rely on vocabulary like that a little easily, that it did have that sense, notjust easily, that it did have that sense, not just the two year gap without
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devolved government, there have been these gaps throughout the history of devolution over the last 25 years, but also a first nationalist first minister in michelle o'neill. for all of the first ministers, never one who aspires to see this place as part of the republic at some point. and to see that moment, to see her take the office and address the assembly, and i went to see her in her new office with her first minister blue ministerial box proudly on the table behind her. it was quite a thing, really, and to first minister saying as she did that she would like to see a referendum on and a united ireland within ten years, she's has said that before but she was saying it from the first ministers office. we have never heard that sort of thing by a northern ireland first minister before. i by a northern ireland first minister before. , ., ., by a northern ireland first minister before. , . ., .., before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity _ before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and _ before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and a _ before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and a lot _ before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and a lot of- before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and a lot of the - before. i believe we are in a decade of opportunity and a lot of the old i of opportunity and a lot of the old norms— of opportunity and a lot of the old norms are — of opportunity and a lot of the old
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norms are gone _ of opportunity and a lot of the old norms are gone and _ of opportunity and a lot of the old norms are gone and as _ of opportunity and a lot of the old norms are gone and as we - of opportunity and a lot of the old norms are gone and as we move i norms are gone and as we move further— norms are gone and as we move further into— norms are gone and as we move further into the _ norms are gone and as we move further into the next _ norms are gone and as we move further into the next decade - norms are gone and as we move further into the next decade a i norms are gone and as we move | further into the next decade a lot of things— further into the next decade a lot of things are _ further into the next decade a lot of things are changing _ further into the next decade a lot of things are changing in - further into the next decade a lot of things are changing in terms i further into the next decade a lot| of things are changing in terms of our island — of things are changing in terms of our island and _ of things are changing in terms of our island and the _ of things are changing in terms of our island and the opportunity - of things are changing in terms of our island and the opportunity to| our island and the opportunity to .et our island and the opportunity to get towards _ our island and the opportunity to get towards a _ our island and the opportunity to get towards a referendum - our island and the opportunity to get towards a referendum on - our island and the opportunity to. get towards a referendum on irish unity— get towards a referendum on irish unity is _ get towards a referendum on irish unity is within _ get towards a referendum on irish unity is within touching _ get towards a referendum on irish unity is within touching distance. i unity is within touching distance. within— unity is within touching distance. within ten— unity is within touching distance. within ten years, _ unity is within touching distance. within ten years, you _ unity is within touching distance. within ten years, you think? - unity is within touching distance. within ten years, you think? i i unity is within touching distance. within ten years, you think? i think so. iwill within ten years, you think? i think so- i will ask _ within ten years, you think? i think so. i will ask you _ within ten years, you think? i think so. i will ask you a _ within ten years, you think? i think so. i will ask you a question, - within ten years, you think? i think so. i will ask you a question, why i so. i will ask you a question, why are the boxes blue, not read? this so. i will ask you a question, why are the boxes blue, not read? fissi are the boxes blue, not read? as i was sitting — are the boxes blue, not read? is i was sitting afterwards are the boxes blue, not read? .is i was sitting afterwards editing are the boxes blue, not read? is i was sitting afterwards editing the tv piece together i did think, i wonder why they are not red. i don't know what colour is the boxes are that ministers and the irish republic years. with the nationalists in northern ireland regard the red box as a symbol of british statehood. bud regard the red box as a symbol of british statehood.— regard the red box as a symbol of british statehood. and did the blue box have a british _ british statehood. and did the blue box have a british crown _ british statehood. and did the blue box have a british crown on - british statehood. and did the blue box have a british crown on it? - british statehood. and did the blue box have a british crown on it? i i box have a british crown on it? i don't think it did, itjust said first minister and it is so interesting that point about the crown because when i was reading up on reminding myself about the procedures that would be playing out yesterday, if you are the first
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minister of scotland or wales in the same way as if you are a minister of the crown in the uk government, it is technically an appointment by the crown on the recommendation of the prime minister or the devolved electorate. there is for obvious reasons in the context of northern ireland and the huge negotiations around the good friday agreement, no role for the british monarch in the process of a first deputy first minister assuming office because obviously all of those questions were keenly discussed and debated in the most fine detail in the assembly, the very structures we are talking about. i assembly, the very structures we are talking about-— assembly, the very structures we are talking about. i am glad you managed to make an interesting _ talking about. i am glad you managed to make an interesting and _ talking about. i am glad you managed to make an interesting and imported l to make an interesting and imported substantial point after my shallow... i would like to know the answer to that. i shallow. .. i would like to know the answer to that.— answer to that. i don't think it is answer to that. i don't think it is a shallow _ answer to that. i don't think it is a shallow question. _ answer to that. i don't think it is a shallow question. it _ answer to that. i don't think it is| a shallow question. it represents something. _ a shallow question. it represents something. why _ a shallow question. it represents something, why is _ a shallow question. it represents something, why is it _ a shallow question. it represents something, why is it different? i a shallow question. it represents i something, why is it different? and s mbols something, why is it different? and symbols matter and they do matter here~ _ symbols matter and they do matter here i_ symbols matter and they do matter here. i think we should take advantage of chris mason... what do ou mean!
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advantage of chris mason... what do you mean! i — advantage of chris mason... what do you mean! twill— advantage of chris mason... what do you mean! i will explain. _ advantage of chris mason... what do you mean! i will explain. we - advantage of chris mason... what do you mean! i will explain. we need i you mean! i will explain. we need ou you mean! i will explain. we need you because _ you mean! i will explain. we need you because you're _ you mean! i will explain. we need you because you're so _ you mean! i will explain. we need you because you're so rarely - you mean! i will explain. we need you because you're so rarely here | you because you're so rarely here for us _ you because you're so rarely here for us to— you because you're so rarely here for us to cast your eye over the thing _ for us to cast your eye over the thing we — for us to cast your eye over the thing we have been banging on about which _ thing we have been banging on about which is _ thing we have been banging on about which is the _ thing we have been banging on about which is the tax—cutting toadies and the green _ which is the tax—cutting toadies and the green spending labour. where have the _ the green spending labour. where have the plans got the? on the green spending labour. where have the plans got the?— the green spending labour. where have the plans got the? on the whole labour question _ have the plans got the? on the whole labour question on _ have the plans got the? on the whole labour question on the _ have the plans got the? on the whole labour question on the £28 _ have the plans got the? on the whole labour question on the £28 billion - labour question on the £28 billion prosperity plan on spending that type of money from 2027 onwards, labour are in a mess on it at the moment. you have keir starmer and rachel reeves the shadow chancellor in a different place publicly. it is as clear as that. there was an expectation from a lot of folk i spoke too privately that they are trying to find a way of unhooking themselves from that number. it is quite hard to do without people being able to say that the entire policy crumbles around them. lots of folk are saying to me that until relatively recently the opportunity to do that would come either side of
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a budget which is in about a month's time because if there are tax cuts that we hear to a degree and then not to a degree from the chancellor then labour might be able to say the numbers don't quite work and we have to be more careful. the thing is, i don't think that will be sustainable for the next five weeks, four and a half weeks until the budget, because they will be chased around over and over again about 28 billion, because the contradiction frankly among some seniorfigures is the contradiction frankly among some senior figures is transparent. the contradiction frankly among some seniorfigures is transparent. find senior figures is transparent. and because it is _ senior figures is transparent. and because it is such _ senior figures is transparent. and because it is such a big number, it is not _ because it is such a big number, it is not like — because it is such a big number, it is not like you can lose it then the back— is not like you can lose it then the back of— is not like you can lose it then the back of a — is not like you can lose it then the back of a sofa. it is not like you can lose it then the back of a sofa.— is not like you can lose it then the back of a sofa. it is a huge number in terms of — back of a sofa. it is a huge number in terms of the _ back of a sofa. it is a huge number in terms of the extent _ back of a sofa. it is a huge number in terms of the extent to _ in terms of the extent to which people see a number and see billion attached and think that must be a lot. labour can make the argument certain amounts are already allocated but it is a huge thing for the conservatives to throw back and say how are you going to pay for that, is that more taxes, same old labour. same kind of political attack which is potentially wounding
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for keir starmer. thea;r attack which is potentially wounding for keir starmer.— for keir starmer. they can throw themselves _ for keir starmer. they can throw themselves further _ for keir starmer. they can throw themselves further and - for keir starmer. they can throw themselves further and further i for keir starmer. they can throw i themselves further and further into it. but someone in the shadow ministry was saying to me, they are suggesting essentially within think this through at the time. it was announced in 2021 and keir starmer were struggling to get rule changes through the party, an epic battle for him to finally control plate grabbed control after the carbon years and maybe they didn't think it through and with the benefit of the hind site, announce a plan but don't necessarily announce a big number you might not have to do something about several years hence because who knows what might happen. find who knows what might happen. and here's another big number. this conservative government has achieved the biggest tax take since the second — the biggest tax take since the second world war so they want to be seen as— second world war so they want to be seen as tax— second world war so they want to be seen as tax cutters but in the true blue tory— seen as tax cutters but in the true blue tory heartlands they are seen as having —
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blue tory heartlands they are seen as having a — blue tory heartlands they are seen as having a mahoosive... and that is the word _ as having a mahoosive... and that is the word. would you put a fiver or 50p on _ the word. would you put a fiver or 50p on there being a national insurance _ 50p on there being a national insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman _ insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so _ insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so it _ insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so it might _ insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so it might be - insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so it might be ten i insurance cut in the budget? i am a yorkshireman so it might be ten p. | yorkshireman so it might be ten p. 0r yorkshireman so it might be ten p. or a penny of the basic rate. we have seen _ or a penny of the basic rate. - have seen this back and forth, a couple of weekends ago the prime minister and chancellor writing pieces in the paper talking about tax cuts and then we had jeremy hunt saying to robert peston the other day, and they will still be seeing further projections from the office for budget responsibility. flame further projections from the office for budget responsibility. come on, nail our for budget responsibility. come on, nail your colours. _ for budget responsibility. come on, nailyour colours. i _ for budget responsibility. come on, nail your colours. ithink— for budget responsibility. come on, nail your colours. i think that - for budget responsibility. come on, nail your colours. i think that will i nail your colours. i think that will be and probably _ nail your colours. i think that will be and probably national- nail your colours. i think that will i be and probably national insurance. there will be a cut in tax on income, i think. there will be a cut in tax on income, ithink. d0 there will be a cut in tax on income, ithink.— there will be a cut in tax on income, ithink. i. ., ., ., ~ income, i think. do you want to make a prediction? — income, i think. do you want to make a prediction? the _ income, i think. do you want to make a prediction? the prime _ income, i think. do you want to make a prediction? the prime minister- income, i think. do you want to make a prediction? the prime minister was| a prediction? the prime minister was su: caestin a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to — a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to me _ a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to me that _ a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to me that would - a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to me that would be - a prediction? the prime minister was suggesting to me that would be the i suggesting to me that would be the place to look would be national insurance because it is immediate
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and everybody feels it. however it is expensive and do the numbers add up, etc? they have got themselves in a position where it is very hard not to do anything at all. would it be the dream scenario of tory backbenchers to take 2p off income tax, it looks like that is something on the cards. they have been on and off, on and off, so who has a clue? chris, you are a marvellous man, please _ chris, you are a marvellous man, please come _ chris, you are a marvellous man, please come often and improve our work _ please come often and improve our work. ., ., please come often and improve our work. . ,, , ., . ., please come often and improve our work. . ,, . ., . ., ., work. thank you, nice to chat to you both. work. thank you, nice to chat to you both- great — work. thank you, nice to chat to you both- great to _ work. thank you, nice to chat to you both. great to have _ work. thank you, nice to chat to you both. great to have you. _ good afternoon. mr view across the scottish mountains, a lot of rain carried on by this conveyor belt of cloud stretching across the atlantic sea and you can imagine we will see
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quite a bit of rain hence the warnings that are out across western and southern parts of scotland. look how the rain builds up in the next 48 hours. we could see even more than 120 millimetres on the very tops of the mountain so clearly concerned for flooding. tops of the mountain so clearly concerned forflooding. rain stretches east of the grampians into northern ireland and northern england and further south we have quite a bit of cloud, gusty wind compared with yesterday. that means we have some drizzle over the hills and around the coasts as well and just a few breaks in the cloud but 14, possibly 15 in the cloud breaks but it is quite windy with gales blowing across shetland, still some wintry showers and rumbles of thunder but overnight the rain pushes further north, could turn to snow as it engages with the colder air but the rain is they concern and clearly we could see some flash flooding as a result of that much rain. overnight elsewhere it stays mild and mistake, it will be damp and drizzly over hills and coasts in
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many western and northern areas. a little more brightness punching through the cloud tomorrow as the weather front moves northwards but again predominantly dry and cloudy with drizzle and mist around the coast and hills but the rain keeps falling across scotland, over the hills in the north some snow. wintry showers across shetland. that rain looks like it will start to move southwards as we go through tomorrow night allowing wintry showers into the north and frost and ice issues and wetter weather back into northern england and northern ireland but still predominantly cloudy and dry. that's how we pick up cloudy and dry. that's how we pick up on tuesday, the cold start in the north but with the return of some sunshine and snow showers around and as the cold they are big southwards into the weather front we could see someone doing this over the hills of northern england and northern ireland as well but to the south of it a much milder picture. looks like by the time we get to wednesday the rain will clear away and we are into the colder airfor a time but how
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far north of the wind will carry the rain and potential snow as we head towards the end of the week, so please stay tuned.
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