hello and welcome to this bbc news special on the grammy awards. taylor swift has won the top prize for times. joining us are our culture correspondent, and also in the studio, host of the reliable source podcast, we also have ben beaumont thomas, he is the guardian�*s music editor, and also the bbc�*s music correspondent mark savage. we will be in la very shortly but first let's get a taste of the ceremony, which was hosted by trevor noah. it's the 66th annual grammy awards.

taylor swift for midnights. my brand—new album... comes out april 19. ijust won my i just won my first grammy! thank ou also i just won my first grammy! thank you also much. — i just won my first grammy! thank you also much. i— i just won my first grammy! thank you also much, i don't— i just won my first grammy! thank you also much, i don't think- i just won my first grammy! thank you also much, i don't think i've . you also much, i don't think i've forgotten — you also much, i don't think i've forgotten anyone. but i might have forgotten _ forgotten anyone. but i might have forgotten underwear. bye. billie eilish! # - eilish! | # keep eilish! - # keep on eilish! — # keep on burning #_ # keep on burning # rolling - # keep on burning # rolling on- # keep on burning # rolling on the l # keep on burning - # rolling on the river...

# i really don't know live at all. joni mitchell ending that little montage. we will have more on that later in the programme. but the big award went to taylor swift and this is the moment it was announced by celine dion. is the moment it was announced by celine dion-— celine dion. taylor swift. applause _ celine dion. taylor swift. applause and - celine dion. taylor swift. i applause and cheering. taylor, looking a little surprised there. let's go to la and cbs news correspondent amanda stevan to. so, really, it was taylor swift's night? it absolutely was, it was just a star—studded event but taylor swift owned the night, all eyes on her, she ended it making history but she also started it with that announcement for her fans, saying that she is going to have a

brand—new album coming out on the 19th of april, so very exciting news. �* ., . 19th of april, so very exciting news. ~ ., ., ., , ., ., news. and overall it was a great niuht news. and overall it was a great ni . ht for news. and overall it was a great night for female _ news. and overall it was a great night for female artists - news. and overall it was a great night for female artists because | news. and overall it was a great - night for female artists because the other two big awards went to miley cyrus and billie eilish?— cyrus and billie eilish? absolutely, it was a huge _ cyrus and billie eilish? absolutely, it was a huge night _ cyrus and billie eilish? absolutely, it was a huge night for— cyrus and billie eilish? absolutely, it was a huge night for women - cyrus and billie eilish? absolutely, i it was a huge night for women across the board at the grammys tonight but billie eilish, her performance from the barbie soundtrack was just beautiful. she accepted her award, you could feel her emotion. but to miley cyrus, she was just being the miley cyrus, she was just being the miley cyrus, she was just being the miley cyrus we know and love, and thatis miley cyrus we know and love, and that is what we saw tonight, not only in her acceptance speeches, a little cheeky at times as well, but her performance was just incredible of flowers and i think everybody watching it loved it. find of flowers and i think everybody watching it loved it.— of flowers and i think everybody watching it loved it. and we need to talk about a — watching it loved it. and we need to talk about a little _ watching it loved it. and we need to talk about a little bit _ watching it loved it. and we need to talk about a little bit of _ talk about a little bit of controversy, killer mike won some awards but was then photographed in

handcuffs, what do you know about what happened?— handcuffs, what do you know about what happened? three awards wasn't enou~h, i what happened? three awards wasn't enough. i guess. _ what happened? three awards wasn't enough, i guess, he— what happened? three awards wasn't enough, i guess, he did _ what happened? three awards wasn't enough, i guess, he did get - what happened? three awards wasn't enough, i guess, he did get arrested | enough, i guess, he did get arrested outside an arena, we know it was a misdemeanour charge for battery, there was some sort of situation outside of the arena, we don't have much details yet, we know that he was trying to get out on bail so thatis was trying to get out on bail so that is all we know, so he took on three awards and also got arrested. trevor noah hosting again, how did that go down, and the show overall? i thought trevor noah did great, i have seen really good reviews online for him as well, he didn't really poke fun at any artist tonight, he just lifted up the artists that were there and everyone participating. he did play on the taylor swift story with the nfl, he said, we are going to be showing football players instead of taylor swift. so that was a great moment. but overall, really good job by trevor noah, he did pick

on tiktok and spotify a little bit but there was really not too much drama from trevor noor overall. a+ for him and just a really great show they put on tonight here in los angeles and it was a wonderful 3.5 hours. �* ., ., angeles and it was a wonderful 3.5 hours. �* . ., ., ~ angeles and it was a wonderful 3.5 hours. �* . . ., ~ , angeles and it was a wonderful 3.5 hours. �* . ., ., ~ , . hours. amanda, thank you very much, from los angeles. _ hours. amanda, thank you very much, from los angeles. as _ hours. amanda, thank you very much, from los angeles. as amanda - from los angeles. as amanda mentioned, the big winner was taylor swift, let's have a listen to some taylor. # everybody agrees # everybody agrees # i'll stand directly the sun # i'll stand directly the sun # must be exhausting always rooting for the antihero... # sometimes i feel like everybody is a... ~ , . ., # sometimes i feel like everybody is a... ~ ,. ., ., ,., .,

a... music editor of the guardian, what did you _ a... music editor of the guardian, what did you make _ a. .. music editor of the guardian, what did you make of— a. .. music editor of the guardian, what did you make of taylor- a... music editor of the guardian, i what did you make of taylor winning that top award, did you predict it correctly? i that top award, did you predict it correctl ? ., that top award, did you predict it correctl ? ~' ~ , , that top award, did you predict it correctl ? ~ , , ., correctly? i think the academy is a little bit sentimental _ correctly? i think the academy is a little bit sentimental at _ correctly? i think the academy is a little bit sentimental at times, - correctly? i think the academy is a little bit sentimental at times, and ithink— little bit sentimental at times, and i think they wanted to anoint taylor in this— i think they wanted to anoint taylor in this year— i think they wanted to anoint taylor in this year where she has had the biggest _ in this year where she has had the biggest grossing tour of all time, it is predicted to earn her over $2 billion— it is predicted to earn her over $2 billion in— it is predicted to earn her over $2 billion in revenue and i think that she is— billion in revenue and i think that she isjust — billion in revenue and i think that she isjust such a pop cultural force — she isjust such a pop cultural force that _ she isjust such a pop cultural force that she kind of absorbed this award _ force that she kind of absorbed this award really but also i think on merit, — award really but also i think on merit, midnights is perhaps not quite _ merit, midnights is perhaps not quite in — merit, midnights is perhaps not quite in the same league as 1989 or folklore _ quite in the same league as 1989 or folklore or— quite in the same league as 1989 or folklore or fearless which have won the award _ folklore or fearless which have won the award before, but it is a robust demonstration of her songwriting, and that— demonstration of her songwriting, and that really particular kind of articutacy— and that really particular kind of articulacy around female emotion which _ articulacy around female emotion which brings her such a huge fandom. mark savage, our music correspondent, no surprises from you that taylor won the top award? hat

that taylor won the top award? not reall , and that taylor won the top award? iirrt really, and like ben says, it feels more of an award for the tour, and taylor's cultural dominance over the last 12 months, than it does for the music itself. it wasn't her best reviewed album but it has sold in huge numbers and i think the recording academy is always mindful of that wider cultural impact of the artists that it represents. i think it would have been good to see a win for lana del rey, whom taylor called up for lana del rey, whom taylor called up onto the stage and called out as one of the artists of her generation, orsister, one of the artists of her generation, or sister, for sos, she would have been the first black artist female to win album of the year since 1997, artist female to win album of the yearsince1997, lauren artist female to win album of the year since 1997, lauren hill, artist female to win album of the yearsince1997, lauren hill, if artist female to win album of the year since 1997, lauren hill, if she had won. but taylor swift probably emerged ahead of the other is probably because everybody knows who she is. i probably because everybody knows who she is. ., probably because everybody knows who she is. . , .,

she is. i am interested in that oint, she is. i am interested in that point. the _ she is. i am interested in that point, the fact _ she is. i am interested in that point, the fact that _ she is. i am interested in that point, the fact that scissor . she is. i am interested in that| point, the fact that scissor did well in the r&b categories, while not in those top categories? i think really 505. — not in those top categories? i think really 505. for _ not in those top categories? i think really sos, for my _ not in those top categories? i think really sos, for my money, - not in those top categories? i think really sos, for my money, is - not in those top categories? i think really sos, for my money, is one l not in those top categories? i think| really sos, for my money, is one of really $05, for my money, is one of the really 505, for my money, is one of the best— really $05, for my money, is one of the best american records of mayan to life _ the best american records of mayan to life it— the best american records of mayan to life it is— the best american records of mayan to life. it is this incredibly potent _ to life. it is this incredibly potent exploration of love and the kind of— potent exploration of love and the kind of broiling emotion that you -et kind of broiling emotion that you get in _ kind of broiling emotion that you get in a — kind of broiling emotion that you get in a relationship where no—one person— get in a relationship where no—one person is— get in a relationship where no—one person is right and no—one person is wrong _ person is right and no—one person is wrong a _ person is right and no—one person is wrong a lot— person is right and no—one person is wrong a lot of the time, and she gets— wrong a lot of the time, and she gets to — wrong a lot of the time, and she gets to that perplexity so powerfully, and across a range of different — powerfully, and across a range of different music, the songs on the album _ different music, the songs on the album that she won a grammy for last [ti-ht album that she won a grammy for last night was _ album that she won a grammy for last night was with phoebe bridges who is an indy— night was with phoebe bridges who is an indy rock— night was with phoebe bridges who is an indy rock artist, there are rock songs— an indy rock artist, there are rock songs on— an indy rock artist, there are rock songs on there, she wraps on it, there _ songs on there, she wraps on it, there is— songs on there, she wraps on it, there is classic r&b, there is more contemporary r&b as well. it is just such a _ contemporary r&b as well. it is just such a top— contemporary r&b as well. it is just such a top to bottom, incredible, historicaiiy— such a top to bottom, incredible, historically amazing album that i feel historically amazing album that i feei sorry— historically amazing album that i feel sorry for her that she didn't -et feel sorry for her that she didn't get those — feel sorry for her that she didn't get those very top awards that she was nominated for, to be honest.

let's _ was nominated for, to be honest. let's have — was nominated for, to be honest. let's have a — was nominated for, to be honest. let's have a quick listen now to some scissor. # still a fan even though bunter happy i am not the one driving, i am so mature # tell me there's other men... so, there we go. _ # tell me there's other men... so, there we go. a _ # tell me there's other men... so, there we go, a little bit of sza. why do think she hasn't managed to break through into those top categories? it break through into those top categories?— break through into those top cateuories? , . , , categories? it is really interesting because on _ categories? it is really interesting because on tiktok, _ categories? it is really interesting because on tiktok, it _ categories? it is really interesting because on tiktok, it is _ categories? it is really interesting because on tiktok, it is known . categories? it is really interesting because on tiktok, it is known to| categories? it is really interesting i because on tiktok, it is known to be the platform — because on tiktok, it is known to be the platform that musicians used to promote _ the platform that musicians used to promote their music, there has been a lot of— promote their music, there has been a lot of trends with sza. we have had the _ a lot of trends with sza. we have had the beauty creators using her son, _ had the beauty creators using her son, that — had the beauty creators using her son, that is — had the beauty creators using her son, that is on a particular kill bill as— son, that is on a particular kill bill as a — son, that is on a particular kill bill as a transition song, thousands of people _ bill as a transition song, thousands of people have made videos to it, bil of people have made videos to it, big tii

her as — saying that cil will actually help her as well, she saying that cil will actually help heras well, she is saying that cil will actually help her as well, she is one of the biggest — her as well, she is one of the biggest creators on that app. so it seems _ biggest creators on that app. so it seems that a lot of people now do iisten _ seems that a lot of people now do listen to— seems that a lot of people now do listen to our mp and it is still quite — listen to our mp and it is still quite big _ listen to our mp and it is still quite big so it is interesting to see that — quite big so it is interesting to see that she hasn't got those big awards. it — see that she hasn't got those big awards, it is quite baffling, actually— awards, it is quite baffling, actually going back to taylor, the bil actually going back to taylor, the big news— actually going back to taylor, the big news for the fans was that new album? _ big news for the fans was that new album? at— big news for the fans was that new album? . ., , , big news for the fans was that new album? _, , , ., big news for the fans was that new album? , , ., ., ., . album? of course, she also announced her 11th studio — album? of course, she also announced her 11th studio album _ album? of course, she also announced her 11th studio album is _ album? of course, she also announced her 11th studio album is coming - album? of course, she also announced her 11th studio album is coming out, i her 11th studio album is coming out, it is called the tortured poets department and she went backstage and posted about it on instagram as well. that is really big news for the swift ease and for those in europe who are planning to attend the tour later this year, because that means there will be new material. �* , ., .,

that means there will be new material. �*, . ., , ., material. let's have a listen to miley cyrus — material. let's have a listen to miley cyrus who _ material. let's have a listen to miley cyrus who won _ material. let's have a listen to miley cyrus who won record i material. let's have a listen to miley cyrus who won record of| material. let's have a listen to - miley cyrus who won record of the yearfor miley cyrus who won record of the year for flowers. # talking to myself for hours at... # talking to myself for hours at... # something's you don't understand # something's you don't understand # so, ben, did you predict that miley cyrus was going to win this? from my point of view, it was a surprise, also a surprise that this is her first ever grammy?- surprise, also a surprise that this is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise _ is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise that _ is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise that it _ is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise that it is _ is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise that it is her - is her first ever grammy? yeah, it is a surprise that it is her first, - is a surprise that it is her first, given her level of pop cultural clout. i think it is deserving in many ways because of the songs on that list, it was much of the most popular. it has got nearly 2 billion streams on spotify and plenty more elsewhere, and it is a really classic bit of songwriting in many

ways, it's got this really incredibly sturdy melody, the kind of melody that you think must have been written before, and some people did actually say it was rather similar to a did actually say it was rather similarto a bruno did actually say it was rather similar to a bruno mars song, but i think it feels like it is a very, very classic type of pop song and really the kind that actually the academy likes to award.- really the kind that actually the academy likes to award. mark, it is interestin: academy likes to award. mark, it is interesting that _ academy likes to award. mark, it is interesting that miley _ academy likes to award. mark, it is interesting that miley cyrus - academy likes to award. mark, it is interesting that miley cyrus has - interesting that miley cyrus has been going for so long, right from her disney days, but only now she gets that girl grammy. i her disney days, but only now she gets that girl grammy.— gets that girl grammy. i think it's im ortant gets that girl grammy. i think it's important to _ gets that girl grammy. i think it's important to recognise _ gets that girl grammy. i think it's important to recognise that - gets that girl grammy. i think it's important to recognise that the i important to recognise that the grammys— important to recognise that the grammys is an award you win by being part of— grammys is an award you win by being part of the _ grammys is an award you win by being part of the grammys community. lana del rey— part of the grammys community. lana del rey was— part of the grammys community. lana del rey was there tonight as i mentioned up on stage, not having one, _ mentioned up on stage, not having one. having — mentioned up on stage, not having one, having having won a grammy in her life _ one, having having won a grammy in her life because she doesn't go out and campaign, she doesn't go to parties _ and campaign, she doesn't go to parties and glad handle people who might— parties and glad handle people who might be _ parties and glad handle people who might be voting for it. miley cyrus has always— might be voting for it. miley cyrus has always been a little bit like that as well, she does not want to be part— that as well, she does not want to be part of— that as well, she does not want to be part of the music industry machine. _ be part of the music industry machine, she has always felt a little _ machine, she has always felt a little bit — machine, she has always felt a little bit apart from that, a little

bit rebellious, a little bit of a wild — bit rebellious, a little bit of a wild child. and this song as ben said has— wild child. and this song as ben said has that classic structure, it ieans— said has that classic structure, it ieans on— said has that classic structure, it leans on when i was your man, by bruno _ leans on when i was your man, by bruno mars, — leans on when i was your man, by bruno mars, another grammy favourite. — bruno mars, another grammy favourite. and the people who vote for these _ favourite. and the people who vote for these awards tend to respect classic— for these awards tend to respect classic songcraft, the work that goes _ classic songcraft, the work that goes into— classic songcraft, the work that goes into making a song, sounding as effortless— goes into making a song, sounding as effortless and as classic as that record — effortless and as classic as that record does, and i think this is the moment— record does, and i think this is the moment when miley cyrus moves from bein- moment when miley cyrus moves from being a _ moment when miley cyrus moves from being a kind _ moment when miley cyrus moves from being a kind of mtv artist into being — being a kind of mtv artist into being a— being a kind of mtv artist into being a grammys artist. to being a kind of mtv artist into being a grammys artist. to bring you in here, being a grammys artist. to bring you in here. how — being a grammys artist. to bring you in here, how does _ being a grammys artist. to bring you in here, how does the _ being a grammys artist. to bring you in here, how does the voting - in here, how does the voting actually work?— actually work? that is a big question. _ actually work? that is a big question, who _ actually work? that is a big question, who is _ actually work? that is a big question, who is making i actually work? that is a big i question, who is making these decisions? unlike some of the other awards, the public do not have a say when it comes to the grammys, so it is done by the recording academy voting members, people like musicians, engineers and producers and they make the decisions on who gets the nominations as well as who gets the nominations as well as who gets the nominations as well as who gets the final awards. the gets the nominations as well as who gets the final awards.— gets the final awards. the other one we have talked _ gets the final awards. the other one we have talked about, _ gets the final awards. the other one we have talked about, billie - gets the final awards. the other one

we have talked about, billie eilish, i we have talked about, billie eilish, let's take a listen to some billie eilish. # i don't know how to feel # i don't know how to feel # but i want to try... # but i want to try... #i # but i want to try... # i don't know how to feel # i don't know how to feel # but some day i might... so, what it the barbie effect, do you think, that got her this one? ila! it the barbie effect, do you think, that got her this one?— it the barbie effect, do you think, that got her this one? no! it's not the barbie — that got her this one? no! it's not the barbie effect. _ that got her this one? no! it's not the barbie effect. there _ that got her this one? no! it's not the barbie effect. there are - that got her this one? no! it's not the barbie effect. there are other| the barbie effect. there are other songs— the barbie effect. there are other songs that — the barbie effect. there are other songs that were nominated for grammys, including one that had aqua and nicky— grammys, including one that had aqua and nicky maynard, that didn't get win. and nicky maynard, that didn't get win and _ and nicky maynard, that didn't get win. and this one, because of the way it— win. and this one, because of the way it makes people feel, and also did quite _ way it makes people feel, and also did quite well online as well, a lot of people — did quite well online as well, a lot of people were making videos this year when —

of people were making videos this year when that song came out about girlhood _ year when that song came out about girlhood and sharing our stories about— girlhood and sharing our stories about being a girl and their traumas and it— about being a girl and their traumas and it really was a very emotive song _ and it really was a very emotive song and — and it really was a very emotive song and i— and it really was a very emotive song and i think billie eilish also did a _ song and i think billie eilish also did a lot — song and i think billie eilish also did a lot of interviews talking about — did a lot of interviews talking about how she sang the song in the way that— about how she sang the song in the way that she did, that went viral as well, _ way that she did, that went viral as well, which — way that she did, that went viral as well, which really gave the audience 'ust well, which really gave the audience just a _ well, which really gave the audience just a different perspective on the song _ just a different perspective on the song and — just a different perspective on the song. and i think that the simplicity of the video is well heiped — simplicity of the video is well helped because that video went everywhere, so it was really, really great _ everywhere, so it was really, really great to _ everywhere, so it was really, really great to see — everywhere, so it was really, really great to see her win that.— everywhere, so it was really, really great to see her win that. mark, she also did a great _ great to see her win that. mark, she also did a great performance - great to see her win that. mark, she also did a great performance on - also did a great performance on the night as well, didn't she?— also did a great performance on the night as well, didn't she? yeah, she ta ed night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into — night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into the _ night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into the core _ night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into the core emotion - night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into the core emotion of - night as well, didn't she? yeah, she tapped into the core emotion of that song. on the one hand, it is a song that talks about a plastic doll not knowing their place in the world, but it's very obviously an allegory as well for billie eilish and the effect that fame has had on her, the alienation she felt as a result of that you can feel all of that coursing through her during that performance. it was very, very full.

billie eilish, very powerful voice of's. i wanted to bring ben back into talk about some of the other winners, because there are over 90 categories in all, so there is a lot to get through. i know you were looking at boy genius in your preview, they did really well did they? preview, they did really well did the ? , �* preview, they did really well did the ? , ~ ., , preview, they did really well did the? , ~ ._ ., preview, they did really well did the? , ~ .,, they? they did. and actually what is really exciting _ they? they did. and actually what is really exciting about _ they? they did. and actually what is really exciting about their _ they? they did. and actually what is really exciting about their wins - they? they did. and actually what is really exciting about their wins in i really exciting about their wins in the alternative and rock categories is that the other alternative and rock categories were also won by a woman fronted outfit, so, you have got an entirely female dominated all winners in the rock categories as well, which have obviously been male dominated over the years, because in the grammys. so i think what we are seeing is something heartening about the grammys this year, which is that we are notjust seeing a tokenism around women, it is a realfaith in

the strength of female songcraft, not just the strength of female songcraft, notjust in pop and r&b and the top of the categories but also right down the strength in depth, all of the different genre fields. also wins for women in country, laney wilson won country album, for example, and a popjazz singer won a grammar. so you are seeing this really exciting brett of female craft at a time when i think the industry is having a bit of a reckoning about maybe not having nurtured enough women through to these positions of power in recent years. these positions of power in recent ears. , ., �* ., ., , years. -- breadth. i'm going to be honest, boygenius _ years. -- breadth. i'm going to be honest, boygenius was _ years. -- breadth. i'm going to be honest, boygenius was a - years. -- breadth. i'm going to be honest, boygenius was a new- years. -- breadth. i'm going to be honest, boygenius was a new one | years. -- breadth. i'm going to be i honest, boygenius was a new one to me before the grammys, and if it is for you as well, here is a taster. # i don't know why i am # i don't know why i am # the way i am

# the way i am # not strong enough to be your man # not strong enough to be your man # ijust loving your expectations... boygenius, who did very well. the other winner on one of the new categories, mark, victoria mornay? yes, she is actually the oldest artist ever to win best new artist at the grammys, she overtakes sheryl crow, both of them were 33 at the time they won the award, but victoria on a isjust time they won the award, but victoria on a is just that tiny bit older. she made her name principally as a songwriterfor older. she made her name principally as a songwriter for ariana grande a who is one of her best friends, they have collaborated together, she helped write seven rings, one of ariana grande a's most famous songs and apparently owns two of those seven rings that arianna gave out to her best friends. but over the last

year she has really had a breakout with her debut album jaguar two and a particular song which is all about feminine strength but also her mum who raised her and appears in the video dancing in the most spectacular way. and she has had just this huge breakout, she is an incredible dancer, an incredible writer, an amazing singer. and she was taking over the rmb categories alongside sza and i think is probably one to watch, particularly in the uk, over the next 12 months, where she has not quite had the impact that she has had in the us so far. a ., impact that she has had in the us so far. a, ,, ., , far. market, where there any surprises _ far. market, where there any surprises for _ far. market, where there any surprises for you _ far. market, where there any surprises for you from - far. market, where there any surprises for you from the i far. market, where there any - surprises for you from the whole ceremony? i surprises for you from the whole ceremony?— ceremony? i think the only real surrise ceremony? i think the only real surprise would _ ceremony? i think the only real surprise would be _ ceremony? i think the only real surprise would be olivia - ceremony? i think the only real| surprise would be olivia rodrigo going in with six nominations and just getting edged out in every single category, i think a lot of the time she was probably the victim of a split vote between her and taylor swift or her and boygenius.

she gave a brilliant performance of vampire at the ceremony but unfortunately went away empty—handed. unfortunately went away empty-handed.- unfortunately went away empty-handed. unfortunately went away em -handed. ., , ., empty-handed. there was a new cate . o empty-handed. there was a new category for _ empty-handed. there was a new category for best _ empty-handed. there was a new category for best african - empty-handed. there was a new i category for best african performer, reflecting _ category for best african performer, reflecting afrobeats, which originated in west africa, nigeria and ghana, but actually it was a south _ and ghana, but actually it was a south african artist who ended at winning _ south african artist who ended at winning that, to making history by picking _ winning that, to making history by picking up— winning that, to making history by picking up that award and winning for her— picking up that award and winning for her viral smash hits on water which _ for her viral smash hits on water which was — for her viral smash hits on water which was everywhere on tiktok last year. _ which was everywhere on tiktok last year, inspired all these dance routines — year, inspired all these dance routines and everything like that and she — routines and everything like that and she said that everywhere she goes _ and she said that everywhere she goes she — and she said that everywhere she goes she has people playing the song and she _ goes she has people playing the song and she has to keep reminding herseif— and she has to keep reminding herself that it is actually her song — herself that it is actually her son:. �* , herself that it is actually her som, �* , , herself that it is actually her son:. 2 ., herself that it is actually her son:. 2 , herself that it is actually her som. �*, , ., song. let's play a little bit of the son:. song. # talk is cheap, so to me that you understand # can you blow my mind? # can you blow my mind? #i # can you blow my mind? # i give you my time

# i give you my time # can you back my soul? do you think it is tiktok that has helped to get their? , , ,, ., ,., their? definitely. i think that song on tiktok especially _ their? definitely. i think that song on tiktok especially she _ their? definitely. i think that song on tiktok especially she had - their? definitely. i think that song on tiktok especially she had a - their? definitely. i think that song i on tiktok especially she had a dance for it with a water bottle and that went everywhere, that is a particular type of dance called a khadi, it is kind of similar to when miley cyrus did that work that year, it is kind of like people had not seen it before so people were trying to learn it and then there was another trend on tiktok where women were playing the song from their phone and filming their significant other to see if they were going to look and see if someone was dancing to the song, and she has done really well, that song has got over 1.5 million videos that have the song played in the background on tiktok. her streams are a lot higher than other nominees like are a star who

was nominated for that category but there has been a lot of backlash online saying that davidova, who has beenin online saying that davidova, who has been in the music industry for a very long time, tyler is only 22, and this is herfirst smash hit whereas davido has had many, his son unavailable was a big hit for everyone last year, lots of people around the world playing that song so people do think, why did she get it? i so people do think, why did she get it? 4' so people do think, why did she get it? ~ ., ., , ., so people do think, why did she get it? i think another bit of backlash is that some _ it? i think another bit of backlash is that some critics _ it? i think another bit of backlash is that some critics have - it? i think another bit of backlash is that some critics have said - it? i think another bit of backlash j is that some critics have said why has it— is that some critics have said why has it taken— is that some critics have said why has it taken so long to introduce this category in the first place? like janelle is saying, these artists— like janelle is saying, these artists have been around for a long time and _ artists have been around for a long time and maybe this is a bit overdue _ time and maybe this is a bit overdue. the other thing to note is that some — overdue. the other thing to note is that some of these artists are actually— that some of these artists are actually breaking through into the mainstream categories. burner boy has won— mainstream categories. burner boy has won the best award three years a-o. has won the best award three years a . o. , . ., , , has won the best award three years auo. ,. ., has won the best award three years auo. , has won the best award three years ago. there is always a bit of controversy _ ago. there is always a bit of controversy at _ ago. there is always a bit of controversy at a _ ago. there is always a bit of controversy at a grammys l ago. there is always a bit of- controversy at a grammys award, mark, jay—z accepted an award but then there was a bit of a dig at the

grammys for not giving beyonce best album ever? it grammys for not giving beyonce best album ever?— album ever? it was wider than that, actuall , album ever? it was wider than that, actually. he — album ever? it was wider than that, actually. he was _ album ever? it was wider than that, actually, he was making _ album ever? it was wider than that, actually, he was making a _ album ever? it was wider than that, actually, he was making a broader. actually, he was making a broader point about the grammys' lack of recognition for hip—hop artists and black artists, particularly in those main categories. beyonce, his wife, being one of them, even though she has won more grammys than anybody else, 32 in total, she has only ever won one award in what is called the big four categories, some of the year, record of the year, album of the year and best new artist, she won some of the year once in 2010 for single ladies, and never again, and she has famously been beaten to the album of the year title by adele, by taylor swift, in years when everybody thought she had the critical weight behind her to pick up critical weight behind her to pick up those awards. jay—z talked about the fact that he had boycotted the in 1998, partly because his friend the late great dmx had been snubbed from the nominations, but he also

said, my wife has not won album of the year, the maths don't work out, you need to think about that. we want you to be better. and so it was interesting moment where he used the platform at the grammys to call out the grammys themselves and advocate for change which is definitely needed. �* �* , , ., needed. and ben, briefly, do you think iikeyonce — needed. and ben, briefly, do you think beyonce should _ needed. and ben, briefly, do you think beyonce should win - needed. and ben, briefly, do you think beyonce should win that. needed. and ben, briefly, do you| think beyonce should win that top award at some point? i think beyonce should win that top award at some point?— award at some point? i mean absolutely. — award at some point? i mean absolutely, she _ award at some point? i mean absolutely, she is _ award at some point? i mean absolutely, she is the - award at some point? i mean| absolutely, she is the defining artist alongside taylor swift of my generation, certainly. it's ridiculous that her masterpiece album four wasn't even nominated for album four wasn't even nominated for album of the year, it is ridiculous that beck be her two other vv year when she released her album. it is long overdue. bi]! when she released her album. it is long overdue-— when she released her album. it is long overdue. all of you, thank you very much — long overdue. all of you, thank you very much for— long overdue. all of you, thank you very much forjoining _ long overdue. all of you, thank you very much forjoining us _ long overdue. all of you, thank you very much forjoining us today, - long overdue. all of you, thank you very much forjoining us today, we| very much forjoining us today, we have run out of time and we have not even got to talk about how good we

all thought trevor noah was. but let's end with a little montage of some of the outfits, with the music of kylie minogue, who also won a grammy for this track. # i know you want to take me home # i know you want to take me home # here i am # hereiam #i # here i am # i know you want to take a home

hello again. for many of us, it was a mild weekend but as we go through this week, the temperature is going to drop closer to where we would expect it to be at this time of year. now, today, we've got this weather front. it's been with us for a while. the met office has a yellow weather warning out for rain across parts of northern and western scotland. it expires this evening at nine o'clock and by then we could have had as much as 170 millimetres of rainfall — flood warnings in force. behind the rain we've got cold air, so the showers increasingly turning wintry. but ahead of the weather front, there's a lot of cloud around. and in the west, we're looking at some light rain and some drizzle, but mild for many, brisk winds today and cold as we push up

towards the north—east. now through this evening and overnight this rain heads south, eventually getting into northern ireland and into northern england. there'll be some showers crossing the north of scotland, which will be heavy with hail and thunder. and for england and wales, it still is going to be a windy night, quite brisk winds and also fairly cloudy but mild in the north, comparatively colder. so into tomorrow, then. then the weather front continues to sink southwards. you can see from the squeeze on the isobars that it still is going to be quite windy across southern areas. and we've got the rain sitting across northern england, southern scotland and northern ireland heading into wales. as the cold air behind it digs in, we could see some wintriness on the hills here, and behind it, increasingly through the day, the wintry showers will be falling at low levels across parts of scotland. but there will be a lot of bright weather here, whereas in the south, although it's milder, it is going to remain fairly cloudy. now on wednesday, it looks like that weather front will clear but it will come back later in the day to the south—west. there will be a lot of dry weather around and again some wintry showers. these are the temperatures, two in lerwick to nine in london. but the milder air where

we've got the cloud and the returning weather front. and it's that that's going to give us some complications in the forecast wednesday into thursday. we've got this area of low pressure pushing north, rain in the south, but it looks like we could well see some snow as well. this could change, i can't emphasise that enough, but it looks like the south will have a blustery day with the rain, but snow could well fall across parts of wales, parts of england and northern ireland eventually getting into southern scotland, but drier in the far north.

live from london, this is bbc news. rishi sunak visits stormont to meet political leaders to mark the return of power—sharing in northern ireland. the us says strikes on iran—linked targets are just the beginning — as america's top diplomat heads to the region again. chile's deadliest forest fire on record claims at least 112 lives — the president warns the figure is likely to rise. taylor swift! cheering. and taylor swift makes history at the grammy awards becoming the first artist ever to win best album four times. hello. i'm anjana gadgil. the british prime minister, rishi sunak, and the irish prime minister, leo varadkar, are in northern ireland to mark the return of the power—sharing government in the region.

mr sunakjoined ministers at the executive round table