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stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a - stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a case _ . stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a case of— - stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a case of whether - . stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a case of whether or- - stakes in the us as the supreme court hears a case of whether or not i court hears a case of whether or not to keep donald trump off the 2024 presidential ballot. the anti—war candidate planning to challenge vladimir putin is blocked from standing in russia's presidential election. boris nadezhdinjoins us live on today's programme. vote counting begins in the pakistan election after a campaign marred by violence. in the uk, the labour opposition ditches its multi—billion pound green policy on the day the eu releases another worrying climate report. and it's at it again — volcano in iceland erupts for the third time since december. welcome to the show.
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we start in washington, where the us supreme court is hearing a case, that could potentially stop donald trump running in the 2024 presidential election. it is a legal first — those bringing the case — are using the 14th amendment of the constitution, it is a legal first. those bringing the case are using the 14th amendment of the constitution, arguing he is disqualified from standing because he commited insurrection on january the 6th, trying to overturn the result of the 2020 election. that was successfully argued in the state of colorado in december, where he's been removed from the ballot. donald trump and his attorneys are arguing that any effort to stop him running is antidemocratic. the us supreme court is hearing about 80 minutes of oral argument today. we've been bringing you details from inside the court as proceedings continue. they have about 20 minutes to go, we think. thejustices have given little indication over the last few weeks where they stand on the issue, we are in uncharted legal
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territory with this case. and the ramifications of their decision are huge. we go over to carry out on a queue. we go over to carry out on a queue. we are in uncharted territory, legally we have never been here before or required to go there before. gave me a sense of what the first hour has been like?— first hour has been like? donald trum's first hour has been like? donald trump's lawyer— first hour has been like? donald trump's lawyer has _ first hour has been like? donald trump's lawyer has been - first hour has been like? donald i trump's lawyer has been focusing first hour has been like? donald - trump's lawyer has been focusing on two particular areas, one is that he believes that donald trump, or the presidency is simply excluded from this closed it bars people from holding office and he's been arguing in textual term is that the presidency isn't part of what's covered in the insurrectionist close. that's been one of his key arguments. the other has been that the 14th amendment bars
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insurrectionists from holding office, running for office full topic that is the basis of the arguments and that colorado has overstepped by suggesting that donald trump can't even run for office. this is a flavour of what he had to say to the nine justices. the had to say to the nine “ustices. the colorado had to say to the nine justices. the colorado supreme court decision is wrong _ colorado supreme court decision is wrong and — colorado supreme court decision is wrong and should be reversed for numerous — wrong and should be reversed for numerous reasons. the first is that president _ numerous reasons. the first is that president trump is not covered by section— president trump is not covered by section three because the president is not _ section three because the president is not an_ section three because the president is not an officer of the united states— is not an officer of the united states as _ is not an officer of the united states as that term is used throughout the constitution. an officer— throughout the constitution. an officer of— throughout the constitution. an officer of the united states refers only to _ officer of the united states refers only to appointed officials and it does _ only to appointed officials and it does not — only to appointed officials and it does not encompass selected individuals such as the president or members _ individuals such as the president or members of congress. this is clear from _ members of congress. this is clear from the _ members of congress. this is clear from the commission is because, at the impeachment clause in the appointments clause. each of these usetess _ appointments clause. each of these useless officers of the united states — useless officers of the united states to refer to only appointed are not— states to refer to only appointed are not elected officials. the second — are not elected officials. the second reason is that section three cannot— second reason is that section three
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cannot be — second reason is that section three cannot be used to exclude a presidential candidate from the patiets. — presidential candidate from the pallets, even if that candidate is disqualified from serving as president under section three, because — president under section three, because congress can lift the disability after the candidate is elected — disability after the candidate is elected but before he takes office. that was _ elected but before he takes office. that was donald trump's lawyer. a number of the justices are raising questions about the arguments and about the precedents, going back to just before the civil war, back in 1869, when some of this was decided. 0ne 1869, when some of this was decided. one of the more liberaljustices sonia sotomayor challenged mr mitchell in a number of points. history proves a lot to me and to my colleagues _ history proves a lot to me and to my colleagues generally. there's a whole — colleagues generally. there's a whole lot — colleagues generally. there's a whole lot of examples of states relying — whole lot of examples of states relying on section three to disqualify insurrectionists for state — disqualify insurrectionists for state offices. and you're basically
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teiting _ state offices. and you're basically telling us — state offices. and you're basically telling us that you want to say that self execution it doesn't mean what it generally means, you want us now to say— it generally means, you want us now to say it _ it generally means, you want us now to say it means that congress must permit— to say it means that congress must permit states or require states to stop insurrectionists from taking state _ stop insurrectionists from taking state office. and so this is a complete _ state office. and so this is a complete pre—emption in a way that's very rare _ complete pre-emption in a way that's ve rare. , , ., ., complete pre-emption in a way that's ve rare. , ., ., complete pre-emption in a way that's ve rare. , , ., ., ., ., ., very rare. this is a real hot potato for the justices. _ very rare. this is a real hot potato for the justices. it _ very rare. this is a real hot potato for the justices. it cannot - very rare. this is a real hot potato for the justices. it cannot be - for the justices. it cannot be overstated, the ramifications if colorado win this case. it overstated, the ramifications if colorado win this case. it won't “ust colorado win this case. it won't just apply _ colorado win this case. it won't just apply to — colorado win this case. it won't just apply to colorado, - colorado win this case. it won't just apply to colorado, it - colorado win this case. it won't just apply to colorado, it will . just apply to colorado, it will apply across the country, the supreme court will have spoken and lots of other cases will be brought in pretty much every one of the 50 states. it will also ripple down towards the general election itself and will have all sorts of people
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going to court preventing or trying to prevent donald trump on the basis of a decision like that getting on the general election ballot. and once you get into that territory, who knows what would happen? donald trump's lawyers have talked about chaos and bedlam ensuring from a decision like that, unclear whether thatis decision like that, unclear whether that is a threat or description it but that's the words they are using. the justices will be well aware of that and they base their decisions on the law and precedent and they may wish to say in these circumstances, this is one for congress. there is a little bit of a get out here where the kid kick this across the roads effectively to congress and say we are not going to make a judgment on this, congress can decide. ., ~ make a judgment on this, congress can decide. ., ,, , ., make a judgment on this, congress can decide. ., ,, i. ., . make a judgment on this, congress can decide-— make a judgment on this, congress can decide. ., ., . ., ., ., can decide. thank you once again for takin: us can decide. thank you once again for taking us through _ can decide. thank you once again for taking us through the _ can decide. thank you once again for taking us through the first _ can decide. thank you once again for taking us through the first hour - can decide. thank you once again for taking us through the first hour of i taking us through the first hour of what we heard at the supreme court. were expecting to hear from donald trump in about 20 minutes, we think.
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so they will talk plenty more throughout the course of the programme. in russia, the only presidential hopeful to oppose says he has been blocked from running for election. anti—war candidate boris nadyezhdin was hoping to challenge vladimir putin in next month's elections. he says the country's central election commission did not register his candidacy. let's speak to boris nadezydin now. thank you forjoining us. your reaction to this news that you have been barred to? boris initiated gene, i hope you can hear me 0k, give me the reaction to this news that you've been barred. i give me the reaction to this news that you've been barred.- give me the reaction to this news that you've been barred. i was not admitted to _ that you've been barred. i was not admitted to be _ that you've been barred. i was not admitted to be on _ that you've been barred. i was not admitted to be on the _ that you've been barred. i was not admitted to be on the ballot - that you've been barred. i was not admitted to be on the ballot on i admitted to be on the ballot on election days but now my lawyers
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make the appeal to the supreme court of the russian federation and i hope the supreme court will decide in my favour and i will have the opportunity to run for the presidency. and millions of people in russia which wanted to vote for me will have this opportunity. ianthem me will have this opportunity. when we soke me will have this opportunity. when we spoke about _ me will have this opportunity. when we spoke about two _ me will have this opportunity. when we spoke about two weeks - me will have this opportunity. when we spoke about two weeks ago, you were deliberately getting well over the 100,000 signatures that you needed to stand in this election because she anticipated the authorities might come back with something like this and sure enough, they have. do you recognise that, despite you saying that you plan to appeal, it is very unlikely, that this decision is to be upheld? i this decision is to be upheld? i have no idea about the decision of the supreme court because if the
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supreme court will treat this case in accordance with the constitution and with russian laws, i am absolute right that i am right because we have seen a lot of problems with the decision of the central election committee. and it is maybe 50 pages of arguments to the supreme court, and of course, i understand the real situation in russia and unfortunately, some decisions, of course, in political cases, is not due to the law but due to the political understanding. i due to the law but due to the political understanding. i was going to ask if that _ political understanding. i was going to ask if that is, _ political understanding. i was going to ask if that is, is _ political understanding. i was going to ask if that is, is the _ political understanding. i was going to ask if that is, is the real - to ask if that is, is the real situation in russia, and this illustrates it again, that any voice that opposes putin or policy or
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opposes the square are silenced? absolutely sure that sometimes, maybe not now but later, russia will be peaceful and free country. i am absolutely sure because i have already understood the support of dozens of millions of people which dozens of millions of people which do not want russia to be in this track of authoritarianism, militarisation, isolation. many people, especially younger people, want a normal future for our country so it is absolutely impossible. 0f so it is absolutely impossible. of course, the central election committee can take me away from the pallets, it is quite possible, but it is impossible to take away from the country dozens of millions of people which think the same as me
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about russia. people which think the same as me about russia-— about russia. exactly, on that oint, about russia. exactly, on that point. you _ about russia. exactly, on that point, you accepted _ about russia. exactly, on that point, you accepted your - about russia. exactly, on that| point, you accepted your never about russia. exactly, on that - point, you accepted your never going to win this election but did you have any sort of education over over the last couple of weeks, since putting on their signatures and trying to stand, you have any indication of what levels of support actually had? taste indication of what levels of support actually had?— actually had? we have polls and in accordance — actually had? we have polls and in accordance with _ actually had? we have polls and in accordance with these _ actually had? we have polls and in accordance with these polls, - actually had? we have polls and in accordance with these polls, i - actually had? we have polls and in| accordance with these polls, i have accordance with these polls, i have a 5% block voting for me, rising per week. perhaps one week it was 10%, etc etc, we don't know how much i can have principally. abs, etc etc, we don't know how much i can have principally.— can have principally. a final thought. — can have principally. a final thought, because - can have principally. a final thought, because i - can have principally. a final thought, because i know. can have principally. a final. thought, because i know what can have principally. a final- thought, because i know what you can have principally. a final— thought, because i know what you are saying about the supreme court and it is unlikely you are going to make progress there, isn't this the worst possible outcome personally for you, that you can't stand but now you've got a target on your back? all
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that you can't stand but now you've got a target on your back?- got a target on your back? all my olitical got a target on your back? all my political life. _ got a target on your back? all my political life, for _ got a target on your back? all my political life, for 30 _ got a target on your back? all my political life, for 30 years - got a target on your back? all my political life, for 30 years or - got a target on your back? all my political life, for 30 years or so, l political life, for 30 years or so, i act in a strict accordance with the russian constitution and russian laws. i never accept any violation of russian laws during my entire political career and many times, i was elected, i am now a council man in my city, etc, so i see no opportunity to stop my way. i will proceed. for30 opportunity to stop my way. i will proceed. for 30 years i am in russian politics and in 20 years i am in opposition to mr putin and i hope and not 30 but 20 years, i will do the same. hope and not 30 but 20 years, i will do the same-— hope and not 30 but 20 years, i will do the same. thank you so much for talkin: to do the same. thank you so much for talking to us — do the same. thank you so much for talking to us live _ do the same. thank you so much for talking to us live here _ do the same. thank you so much for talking to us live here on _ do the same. thank you so much for talking to us live here on bbc- do the same. thank you so much for talking to us live here on bbc newsl talking to us live here on bbc news so quickly after that decision has
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been made, barring you from the election is. thank you so much. breaking news from the ukraine at this time, because ukraine's president zelensky has just fired the commander—in—chief of the army. that news just the commander—in—chief of the army. that newsjust in. the commander—in—chief of the army. that news just in. this story has knocked a band for several weeks in term of an intended sacking and todayit term of an intended sacking and today it has come about with ukraine's president firing the commander—in—chief of the army. he is hugely popular among civilians in ukraine, so it is a very interesting move from president zelensky. it is set a course that there were disagreements over over the summer offensive but there is the news coming into us that that made actually happened and he has been removed as the commander—in—chief or
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word at moment in times of his replacement but that is an important story so will keep you and ion that and you more analysis because that is significant news coming into us from ukraine. polling stations are closed in pakistan, where people have been voting in general and provincial elections after a campaign period frequently disturbed by violence. less than 24 hours before the polls opened, 28 people were killed in baluchistan, with the islamic state group saying it carried out two bombings. 0n election day, five security personnel were killed in an attack while patrolling in the northwest of the country. security was tight and while some polling stations were largely empty because of security threats and cold weather, in other areas of the country, people turned out in large numbers. let's get more on this with our correspondent in islamabad samira hussein. what are you hearing now in times of
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where we are in this process?- where we are in this process? we've heard from — where we are in this process? we've heard from the _ where we are in this process? we've heard from the electoral _ where we are in this process? we've| heard from the electoral commission that said that by and large the elections went off pretty well. they cited a few security incidents that happened in which some security personnel had died but from their perspective this was by and large a pretty good election any term is of overall safety. there were also quick to mention there were some issues at some polling stations and that those polling stations have been reported to them, but in general, they are reporting that this has been a pretty good election. but remember that for the entire time these polls were option, we saw that the mobile services were completely shut down so internet service was completely shut down, and the government ensured people saying they weren't going to cut off
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any communication but in the ends they did, citing security concerns. critics were very quick to say this was just another attempt by the government to stifle the electoral process. government to stifle the electoral rocess. , , ., government to stifle the electoral rocess. , ., ., . process. give us an overarching thou~ht, process. give us an overarching thought. how — process. give us an overarching thought, how important - process. give us an overarching thought, how important are - process. give us an overarching i thought, how important are these sets of elections for pakistan? these elections come at such a crucial time for the country. it is mired in an economic crisis, we're seeing inflation in this country at 28%, we are seeing that they are under a crippling amount of debt repayments that will have to come through in the next three years. that there are continuing security issues, particularly in the baluchistan and kayky provinces, which have been going on for at least a year. and then there is the political instability, the constant infighting. this is a time where
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pakistan needs a strong government and strong leadership but i think from the point of view of voters, there is a little bit of disillusionment because when you look at the actors that are currently standing in this election, they are all very well knew. you have a former prime minister back from exile and running in the selections. and then you have the son of the former prime minister benazir bhutto, who was assassinated shortly before elections in 2008. and then the one person who is wildly popular but is not on the ballot and that is the cricket superstar turned politician imran khan. ., , superstar turned politician imran khan. . , . superstar turned politician imran khan. .,~, , . khan. thanks very much. around the world and across _ khan. thanks very much. around the world and across the _ khan. thanks very much. around the world and across the uk, _ khan. thanks very much. around the world and across the uk, you're - world and across the uk, you're watching bbc news. bbc news analysis
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reveals that cancer waiting times in 2023 in england for the worst on record. and 64% a patient started treatment within 62 days cancer being suspected, meaning nearly 100,000 people waited longerfor life—saving care than they should have. the waiting periods have worsened every year for the past 11 years. the co—op retail chain is urging mps to make assaulting or abusing a shop worker aspecific criminal offence in england and wales. the company said there'd been 44% increase in incidents of shoplifting and violence in its stores within the past year. it's already a criminal offence in scotland. the prime suspect in the disappearance of three—year—old madeleine mccann is expected tostay silent at his forthcoming trial in germany on unrelated sexual offences. christian bruckner is accused of five offences between 2000 and 2017 in portugal.
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he is already serving a jail sentence for rape. you're left with bbc news. let me remind you, we continue to hear some of those legal arguments going on in the supreme court. we have regular updates on the side of the screen in terms of what some of the lawyers have been saying that there in the court and what some of the questions have been like from the justices. that are still going on, we have a correspondent in the courts were keeping an eye on that and regularly through the programme will bring you the significant bit is. due to head to the website as well, there is more information on that ongoing case. meanwhile, the earth is at another significant and worrying milestone, for the first time, global temperatures affect 1.5 degrees above preindustrial levels across an entire year. european union's climate services service
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release new evidence recording the highest 12 month global temperature average on record. this breach does not breach the 2015 paris agreement limit long—term temperature rises to 15 degrees but does bring a lot closer to doing so. global warming was believed to be the main driver behind the amazon rainforest experiencing its worst drought on record since 2023, killing wildlife and even many villagers unreachable by reverend. meanwhile, in east africa, kenya as well as neighbouring somalia and ethiopia experience the worst flooding in history. many you sign to say a combination of greenhouse gas emissions and dramatic sea temperature rises are to blame but el nino has also given air temperature is extra—base. researchers warn though that ultimately human activities, such as burning fossil fuels, ultimately human activities, such as burning fossilfuels, mean burning fossil fuels, mean temperatures burning fossilfuels, mean temperatures will continue rising at
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a concerning pace unless urgent action is taken. for more on this data we go to our correspondent. the first 12 month period to everyone temperatures have exceeded 1.5 degrees above preindustrial levels, that 1.5 figure we hear a lot, it is important pantry and there was a landmark un report back in 2018 that revealed that the impacts of 2 degrees were significantly greater than 1.5 degrees, and it is that increasing risk with every increment of temperature increase that is the reason why there is such pressure to try and hold the temperature rise to 1.5, if at all possible, which was the commitment made by world waiters are back in 2015 and a paris climate conference. that is why there is so much focus on 1.5 and why people are so anxious about this one year breach we have seen which doesn't actually undermine the longer term
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commitment that was made over about ten years where it had to see it happen in order to preach the paris guidelines. but drill down into the figures you see how exception of the temperatures are. every single one of the last eight months has been a record month for that period, so record month for that period, so record july, august, october, all the way through to january. and sea temperatures have been even more exceptional, every single day has set a new record for that day. record sea surface temperature for that day since late april last year. over the extraordinary thing is happening. in fact, over the extraordinary thing is happening. infact, the over the extraordinary thing is happening. in fact, the current global surface sea temperature is an all—time record, we've never had sea temperatures as warm as they are and were not yet at the normal peak, it normally would expect to see temperatures peak in late march to expect to see temperatures rise at an even higher global record. so really worrying thing is happening in the global climate being indicated by this new dataset we
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have today. indicated by this new dataset we have today-— indicated by this new dataset we have toda . ., ., ., , have today. now to a big political sto here have today. now to a big political story here in _ have today. now to a big political story here in the _ have today. now to a big political story here in the uk _ have today. now to a big political story here in the uk with - have today. now to a big political story here in the uk with the - have today. now to a big politicall story here in the uk with the main opposition labour party being accused of a major u—turn. the parties to no longer spent £28 billion a year on environmental projects if it wins the general election. the party made the pledge to .5 years ago. sir keir starmer is expected to say it's making the cake change because the economic outlook is now different. shoes this was the labour party conference where this pledge was made. an conference where this pledge was made. . ., ., ., j~ conference where this pledge was made. �* . ., . f~ , ., conference where this pledge was made. . ., ., ., j~ , ., ., made. an additional £28 billion of caital made. an additional £28 billion of capital investments _ made. an additional £28 billion of capital investments in _ made. an additional £28 billion of capital investments in our - made. an additional £28 billion of. capital investments in our country's green transition for each and every year of this decade. it green transition for each and every year of this decade.— year of this decade. it became a central plank —
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year of this decade. it became a central plank of _ year of this decade. it became a central plank of labour's - year of this decade. it became a central plank of labour's offer i year of this decade. it became a i central plank of labour's offer with the money earmarked to bring about a green industrial revolution. but last summer, the spending promise was watered down, with rachel reeves saying that they wouldn't spend £28 billion a year immediately. seniorfigures been far consistence in the messaging stressing the number one priority is the nation's finances and they will not spend what they can't afford. this afternoon they can't afford. this afternoon the slow motion u—turn will be complete when the £28 billion figure is dropped altogether. lanthem complete when the £28 billion figure is dropped altogether.— is dropped altogether. when the facts change _ is dropped altogether. when the facts change you _ is dropped altogether. when the facts change you have _ is dropped altogether. when the facts change you have to - is dropped altogether. when the facts change you have to adapt l is dropped altogether. when the | facts change you have to adapt to suit that otherwise you're just dogmatically making policy in and then you try to drive it through, you're going to come a cropper. when we talk about the public finances, you just can't play fast and loose with that. ., , , ., with that. the move is designed to blunt his attacks _ with that. the move is designed to blunt his attacks on _ with that. the move is designed to blunt his attacks on labour's - blunt his attacks on labour's spending plans but the prime minister still believes he has
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plenty to go on. minister still believes he has plenty to go om— minister still believes he has plenty to go on. this was the flan-shi plenty to go on. this was the flagship plank _ plenty to go on. this was the flagship plank of _ plenty to go on. this was the flagship plank of labour's - plenty to go on. this was the - flagship plank of labour's economic policy— flagship plank of labour's economic policy and _ flagship plank of labour's economic policy and it now looks like he's trying _ policy and it now looks like he's trying to — policy and it now looks like he's trying to wriggle out of it. i think it demonstrates exactly what i've been _ it demonstrates exactly what i've been saying, u—turns and better things— been saying, u—turns and better things and — been saying, u—turns and better things and can't say what he would do differently because he doesn't have a _ do differently because he doesn't have a plan. do differently because he doesn't have a plan-— have a plan. this is also drawn criticism from _ have a plan. this is also drawn criticism from within _ have a plan. this is also drawn criticism from within the - have a plan. this is also drawn | criticism from within the labour party. iiii criticism from within the labour pa . , ., . ~' criticism from within the labour pa . , ., criticism from within the labour pa . ., party. if you make it so bland that ou stand party. if you make it so bland that you stand for _ party. if you make it so bland that you stand for nothing, _ party. if you make it so bland that you stand for nothing, then - party. if you make it so bland that you stand for nothing, then the i you stand for nothing, then the opposition, to governments, will write your policies for you and they will say, you see, labour or not telling you what they are going to do, it will be this and that is, and they can page their own picture. i think it's strategically incompetent.- think it's strategically incompetent. think it's strategically incometent. ., think it's strategically incometent. . . incompetent. labour has made a series of green _ incompetent. labour has made a series of green patches, - incompetent. labour has made a series of green patches, chief. incompetent. labour has made a i series of green patches, chief among them a target for 100% clean energy by the end of the decade. the party is adamant those promises remain intact but i will do pay for them now that there is less cash
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available? before the break, let me take you back to the supreme court in washington because of the questioning of the donald trump legal team has apparently finished. i'll show you the live pictures but interesting because just an exchange with the conservative justice appointed by donald trump expressing some scepticism about the trump arguments, a one point posing a question and suggested she did not believe his principal claim that trump was not an officer of the court. that's one of the central pieces of the defence. moore from washington on the programme in a moment of two. thank you forjoining me. the weather has been so unpleasant for many of us today, heavy rain and it is a picture out there and we have had the snow across the hills of northern ireland. is being stung across northern england and into southern
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scotland. this is the writer from earlier on it but it is mostly hill snow at least where it is following heavy as. not exclusively, have had a wet covering of snow on lower ground as well. focusing on the amber warnings from the met office for this afternoon across northern wales and into this evening across the pennines. some of the higher routes could get as much as 25cm of snow. the trans—pennine routes could be very tricky so take it steady during rush hour. was as strong winds are blowing out of the east and this is the picture around for pm in the afternoon, temperatures just a couple of degrees above freezing but to the south, much milder. it is the rain in the south causing problems, it could bring around 45mm is this next front moves into parts of england and wales. tonight will be a messy picture particular in the north with a mixture of rain, sleet and snow,
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temperatures around 2 degrees, plans were in the south. 0n temperatures around 2 degrees, plans were in the south. on friday, weather transfers further north but there could be significant snowfalls across the scottish hills, particularly central and eastern parts of scotland. rain in the northeast of england and in the south, extensive cloud, showers, some heavy but mild, i2 south, extensive cloud, showers, some heavy but mild, 12 in the mouth, 11 in hull and then much colder into the north of scotland. you can see hints of wintry weather to the south of that it's much milder. into friday and saturday, low pressure still with us for the weekend but areas of cloud a little broken so supplant sunshine coming through but at times, heavy showers expected as well. and the outlook, will it be mild or cold? it looks as though it will stay on the planter side, the weather could be settling
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down into tuesday.
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this is bbc news, the headlines. the us supreme court is hearing arguments that will determine whether to kick donald trump off the 2024 presidential ballot.
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those the 2024 presidential ballot.

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