: nate inato slams donald there. the head of nato slams donald trump for saying he would encourage russia to attack any nato ally that doesn't spend enough on defense. the africa cup of nations final is now over with hosts ivory coast beating nigeria to — one. celebrations are now under way, including watching parties in london. and with the football over there is another big game coming up— the super bowl is about to get under way in las vegas and these are the lives pictures from outside the stadium. now it's time for today's sunday episode of newscast — with laura kuessnberg, paddy o'connell and henry zeffman. newscast. newscast from the bbc. hello, it is paddy in the studio.

laura in the studio. and henry at home. michael gove on the front of the ft. michael gove said in the sunday times that young people are being stitched up by the housing crisis. he did and he said young people might lose faith in democracy if they don't get the houses they need. as you have already alluded to, for somebody who has been in government for 14 years with a bum on the seat of the cabinet table, it is a curious thing to be pointing the finger in this way that somehow this is a terrible, terrible problem and now it must be turn to. whereas people who study the housing market, you can pick up any statistics under the sun to show the issue has become more and more and more acute under 14 years of conservative government. there is a weird element to michael gove trying to make like a bystander. the back story is what he's trying

to do is persuade other people and government to make sure the legislation he wants to pass goes through and he wants more money for housing in the budget. if you are being scurrilous, you might suggest there are lots of different motivations here? i think if you talk to anyone around michael gove it is clear he has kind of got religion on housing and its importance. not just to the conservative party, who's problem with young voters seems to be more acute than it ever has been, but also to society. it is incredibly stark thing for any cabinet minister to say, you know, their particular policy area risks, if it is not done properly, meaning that people turn away from democracy and towards authoritarianism. but there are a lot of politicians, conservative and other parties, who fear the intergenerational contract is breaking down

when you have overwhelmingly middle—aged and older people who are owner occupiers in this country and overwhelmingly young, which is not necessarily that young, we're not talking 27—year—olds now, people substantially older, you cannot get onto the housing market so they feel they don't have any stake in society. and those people who are older and built their wealth themselves, we are not having a knock. congratulations. i bought my first house at 25 and the multiply of my salary was three and i went to the same house, the same front door and the multiplayer to buy the house now is ten times. and that is a good illustration of what has happened across the piece. the numbers are really, really start, the graphs go the wrong way with a knock on effect, huge increase in evictions and huge increase in the number of people in temporary accommodation. more than a million people, a million people on the list for social housing,

what we would have called council housing in the old days when things were more simple and there was no housing association and also to people on the market. so michael gove said he is ready to make housing at the top of the list, but we asked him about some of the specifics. in 2019, the tories promised to ban what are called no false eviction. if you do nothing wrong as a tenant, pay your bills on time, currently as it stands your landlord can still get you out. in 2019 they made a promise, it still hasn't happened yet. is he now sure it will happen before the next election? you promised in 2019 in your manifesto you are going to get rid of what is called section 21, where landlords can evict tenants for no reason. it hasn't happened yet, can you guarantee the 11 million renters in this country you will end this before the general election? yes, we have a bill, it has gone through it stages in the house of commons and that

builder is a number of things bill does a number of things to help people in the private rented sector, including ending no—fault evictions. why does that matter? there are a small minority of unscrupulous landlords who use the threat of eviction either to jack up the rents, or to silence people who are complaining about the quality of their homes. it is important we deal with that if use because the vast majority of landlords do a greatjob and you need a healthy private rental sector as part of a balanced housing economy. you are explicitly saying this morning that practice will be banned, it will not be allowed to happen before the next general election? that is what it says on the bill, the bill and section 21. previously you have said the courts might not be able to cope so you might bring in the new law, but it might still happen because the cuts are not ready. just to be explicit, will this practice have ended by the time of the next general election? we will have outlawed it and we will put the money into the courts in order to ensure they can enforce it.

0k. the reason i was pushing him to be so explicit, there have been tory mps who have been dragging their feet on this issue. there is this, i don't want to say conspiracy theory but some housing campaigners believe there are tory mps who are landlords who have been dragging theirfeet on this legislation. that is the question, even if it is in place, the government said we can pass the law but we don't know when it will come into force, but there michael gove is going further than he has done previously to give his absolute guarantee it will happen in both regards. i can upgrade the conspiracy theory, or whatever theory it may be. i have notjust heard it from housing campaigners, but conservative mps and ministers who are desperate for this bill to pass and believed their own colleagues and the government are dragging their heels because some of them have property interests. i am not commenting on whether that is legitimate or not, but that is the level of person

i have heard... hang on, the thing that would put the screw on a landlord is being resisted by landlord mps, that is what we are saying on newscast? that is what moore empties than ministers say. that is really going to annoy generation rent. there is a programme to do about landlords because that landlords there are no homes. and a lot of landlords, some people might have a small flat which they saved up for instead of having a pension. that is a big issue, on the same day he is on the front of the sunday times think this will lock people out of democracy. henry and laura are telling me there are mps in the house of commons who are said to be dragging their feet because they are landlords? i know how categorical michael gove was about the timetable, but it didn't leave any wriggle room at all. he said this bill will be passed

by the time of the general election. we don't know when the general election is, but assume it is in the autumn rather than in may. if it is in may, i don't see how it can be passed on time, but if it is in the autumn they're still not a lot of parliamentary time. it has the entirety of the house of lords stages to go through, a bit of stuff still to be done in the house of commons and some people are not sure when that will take place. i think it is michael gove, you know, achieving the government along as well as announcing it is going to happen. absolutely. i know our viewers love this kind of stuff because sometimes politicians are talking to two audiences. michael gove is trying to tell our viewers and listeners today, i get it, i know it isn't good enough and if you give us another chance, i promise you i am going to try and sort it. also saying to downing street, tory party managers and his colleagues,

this has to happen and i'm going to go and get my megaphone on the telly and try to push it forward. there isn't a guarantee if you talk to other people in government, this is going to happen before the election, but he is trying to make it so. let me bring it back to the audience that matters, the renter, you had a case study called sean. let's talk about her living room. sean has been in temporary accommodation for six years. six years. we go back six years and we are still in 2018, my mental arithmetic has failed me. she has been in temporary accommodation for six years. she is waiting to get a place in social housing and there are more than a million people on the list and sian wanted michael gove to explain himself. how is that acceptable in one of the richest countries in the world? one of our viewers, sian wants to explain to her why she has been stuck on a waiting list along with more than a million other people for social housing and stuck

in temporary accommodation for six years? you can boast about the number of homes you built, but can you explain to her why the conservatives have allowed that to happen? i would never boast, i think it is important however to stress what it is we have been doing. i would like you to explain to sian, why she has been waiting for six years? i don't know where she lives, and i do want to know the detail so i can make sure we can do everything we can to help her. more broadly we need to deliver more homes and i have run through some of the things we are doing in order to do that. let me make one important point, last year we introduced legislation that would have unlocked 100,000 new homes, social homes, homes to rent and homes to buy. when we brought forward that legislation, the opposition voted

against it, so if we are looking for culpability and blame, one of the questions we have to ask, why, when we could have had 100,000 additional homes did labour vote to stop that? because we have a plan to deal with this very important question and labour have no plan at all. i think that is what is known is not answering the question and trying to point the finger at your opponent instead. we will see if sian gets back in touch to see what she made of the answer. henry, it was interesting when she said please share her information. —— he said he is seen as one of the most adept cabinet performance. when you think laura trott was on the tm programme in the week arguing with evan davis over what figure was a figure. go and look at that. michael gove, that is sophisticated to say, let me know what sian's is, so do we say michael gove will be wheeled out like david cameron as the sort of competent

face of the cabinet? i am sure that rishi sunak would be delighted for him to do as much media as possible. david cameron, still not being wheeled out that much, as we discussed a few weeks ago on the sole occasion he has been, which i think it is an interesting subplot. there is definitely a divide in the cabinet now. a really big, profound divide in terms of experience. michael gove, doing media interviews like this on national television like this for getting on for 20 years now, been an mp since 2005 and he was a journalist beforehand, but their experience, joined the cabinet in 2010. ditto david cameron, jeremy hunt, grant shapps. and then people at the other end, who are much fresher and i'm sure rishi sunak would like to go into the election and promote them

as much as possible as the new face of the conservative party. but they often come unglued on sticky wickets, where as people like michael gove handle difficult questions like that more smoothly. let me segue, because you have made the news with michael gove, we had alan bates in broadcasting house today. the bbc has done some digging into fujitsu uk's accounts to find that millions were paid to executives during the horizon fiasco, the software that was faulty. 900 sub postmasters and mistresses were pursued through the courts and prosecuted over these mistakes. and at the same time, fujitsu uk were playing the bosses millions. alan bates told me this needs to be looked into in the inquiry. the really important thing in all of this is getting the victims, the sub postmasters who have suffered, paid as soon as possible. i don't know why government cannot get the money out to these people, itjust seems to be tied up in a bureaucratic nightmare. everyone agrees the money is there, everyone agrees

they want to pay for them. it's amazing how long this has been going on for, it is years. it is years, years, and years. and now we have this national voice, when you are talking to him, i wonder can you believe how this is all now unravelled? you must be a strange position to be and if you have been fighting on your own and with a small group, then with a bigger group, what is his take on that? that is exactly where i was interested to go. he said the money is still not coming, lots of promises of action. there have been some, but they can't believe how slow it is. when you link that to the windrush scandal and the contaminated blood scandal, people against the system feel very depressed in our country. iasked him, is the system knackered?

he said, you feel very lonely. it interesting, he was laughing. he said my life is busy, but he has this manner about him, he feels he has done all it can and i suppose that is enough for a person, they have got agency and he was laughing and saying he had a nice day. henry, you are nodding. the point you made about agency feel so important in the post office scandal. it is the one thing i found most powerful about the itv drama about alan bates, but the case more generally, was that feeling that these people off sounding the alarm, they were campaigning, they were calling, in the first instance, the post office to help them out of the situation and treat it as an honest mistake and the agency point, it has taken them decades, in some cases, to just get a hearing to what any human being can expect, who ought to expect in any walk of life, being listened to. we had pat mcfadden on the programme

this morning, labour's campaign chief and he was the post office ministerfor a while. he was asked a couple of weeks ago about this and he basically said, i can't really remember. i said have you looked at what happened, given everything that we now know? he said, i have and i've looked at the paperwork and what struck me, he said this morning, is how robust the post office was to the inquiries that were being put to them by government. he said, we asked a couple of times but the post office came back time and time again sang, there is no problem, there is no problem. you speak to people who are at the post office at the time and they said they were being told by fujitsu, there is no problem, there is no problem. it is absolutely astonishing how these people have taken so long

to have this looked at properly and although kemi badenoch said a couple of weeks ago, we are going as fast as we can, it is happening very quickly. there is still glacial, many peoples lives have been turned upside down. some have died because of the length of time, henry, i wonder if ed davey has had more of this coming his way? i understand there is a fair—minded listener who will say if i am the minister and i ask my officials and the post office for the reassurance, that is all i can do, i am not a private investigator. vince cable made a similar point, but said he would like to apologise. do we think ed davey has got more of this coming to slap him around the face? almost certainly. you know, there are a long line of post office ministers but he's the misfortune of being the leader of a political party at the moment that the scandal is finally recognised.

he did an interview for the today programme, it was occupied with these questions. you are blaming the post office, the advice of a given, what was happening at the time. what about your own personal responsibility? it is one of the reasons why, when we heard about the whistle—blower and we had the high courtjudgment, i called for an independent inquiry. i championed that and i'm keen... what about an apology to the victims? i have apologise for the fact that i fail to see through the lies of the post office and i failed to meet alan bates early on. it is it a full apology? i am apologising what i was accountable for. indirectly by fujitsu that everything was fine. not a single affairs minister in this long stretch did anything other than to

rush their official device of course government ministers do trust their official advice otherwise we've got a problem. you i think ed davey would not unreasonably, make that point. paddy, we like to have sunday sparkle and a bit of showbiz. yesterday you told me you were going to have someone on to play a tune. the he player tune? no, he spoke eloquently and movingly about local hero going home. he said it was very celtic and he said, you might hear the scot in you strring. it is the anthem for newcastle united. you have newcastle united t—shirt on. he has got the steven gerrard tie. describe for us on the radio today,

what it's like to hear your tune played in the toon, to your fans. it is unemotional, life changing moment for him? i'm sure it is. i think it is unimaginable, it must be. is he a newcastle fan? he must be. we had an incredible passion on that an incredible passion from ralph fiennes, talking about his new macbeth production in london and it has been in london, liverpool and edinburgh and around the country. it is in big warehouses and he said there is lots of violence, lots of gore. macbeth is all about that, but it was interesting this morning, he said they don't have a trigger warning and he basically said, i think audiences have gone too soft. part of the thing about being in the theatre is you can be shot, in the theatre is you can be shocked

you should be shocked and you shouldn't be told about it in advance. so down with trigger warnings if you are ralph fiennes. we never had trigger warnings, they are very disturbing scenes in macbeth and terrible murders. but the impact of theatre is he was shocked and disturbed, i don't think you should be prepared for these things. when i was young we never had trigger warnings. would you get rid of them, then? i would, yes. yes, talking about the theatre in that way because it is a massive staple for the papers, this wokery thing. you used to work in the papers, so they say, macbeth, you need to be warned early on somebody's head could be cut off. macbeth is so well known that if you are going to see it, you presumably have at least a rough idea of the plot. ray fiennes drew a distinction

with you, he said there's things like strobe lighting and so on, of course you should warn people before hand. but that is more of a safety warning. it is about health, then for sure. and here are the fire exit. all very important thing. macbeth contains blood and a bit of murder... good for him. are you auditioning to be a theatre announcer because you might find scenes distressing, look away now if you are of a nervous disposition. macbeth is a very well—known play and they will be plenty, and they will be new plays being put on. perhaps if some of them have traumatic elements that some people might not want to relive if they have experienced it, it is worth giving them a bit of a heads up. but certainly, ralph fiennes seems to think for a lot of people on the ridiculousness of some of the extremes it's gone too.

and to complete all lovely, lovely loveliness, you had andrew scott in broadcasting house this money. in broadcasting house this morning. what an awful bunch of name dropper is we are. he was talking about his love of event cinema, where we see ballet, plays and concerts, the taylor swift and beyonce concert tour films have broken the box office records in the last 12 months. but for 15 years or more, people have enjoyed plays in this way. andrew scott will be screened live. but he said it can't replace affordable theatre prices. he said people of about 25 cannot afford your £150 box office ticket. if you're having to spend 150 quid, no person between the ages of 16 and 25 can afford that. it is frustrating to me. usually, hopefully there is two nights a week you can get something.

like a sale rack, you have to be prepared to rummage a little bit. but i agree, it is important it doesn't remain an elitist art form. i did ask ralph fiennes to fevered tay £300 to go and watch sarahjessica parker and he confessed he had been, but he got a freebie because it was opening nights. lucky if you can get a ticket, but that is a lot of cash. we have done a lot of shout out for our 27—year—old newscast and we have congratulated the plaid cymru peer. she's come on and talk to us. i think we are at the end. i am always happy to talk about you such a real choices, but i'm not sure how much of a discussion asked that her want to want to listen to.

i have had an e—mailfrom a viewer of this morning saying can you wear a biggerjump in the studio to set more example of turning the heating down. the week ahead is massive for politics? huge, two big by—elections on thursday in wellingborough in northamptonshire and in kingswood near bristol. both seats the conservatives won with big majorities in 2019 and it tells a story of how far we have come that i don't think anybody expects the conservatives to hold on to either of them, it has become routine, you have these by—elections with pigment tory majority and it seems labour overturns them. it may set up another wobble in the tory ranks. they are pretty wobbly as thing stands. we may get news this week we have gone into a recession. it might be the day of the by—election, so given that the government is trying

to make an argument, stick with us because we can look after the economy. whether or not being technically in a recession makes a blind bit of difference to how people feel about making ends meet, it is still a stick for the opposition to beat them with, if those figures to show that. we have reviewed the sunday, we have had preview of the week ahead, so it is definitely time to say goodbye. thank you for listening and watching. thank you very much, goodbye everybody. goodbye. newscast from the bbc. hello there. very pleased to say it's been a quieter weekend of weather for most of us, but there's still a lot of waterlogged fields and pavements out there, as you can see by this weather watcher picture sent in from hull a little earlier on. now, as we go through the week

ahead, we might start off quite optimistic with some sunny spells around, but it will turn increasingly unsettled, with the showers turning to longer spells of rain, breezy at times, but it will be mild, particularly through the middle part of the week. this has been the story today. we've had some nuisance rainjust clinging onto the far east coast of scotland and north—east england. some brighter spells and a few scattered showers out to the west. now, those showers will continue to feed in across west—facing coasts overnight. but with some clearer skies, temperatures are likely to fall away. it's going to be a chilly start to our monday morning. low single figures for many, perhaps in rural parts of scotland, below freezing, a touch of ice not out of the question where we've got those lingering showers. low pressure dominates the scene as we move into monday, the wind direction coming from a north—westerly, slightly fresher source and that's going to continue to drive in plenty of showers closest to that area of low. so northern ireland, scotland, perhaps northwest england as well. and some of the showers to the tops of the mountains once again

could be wintry in nature. but there will be some sunshine elsewhere and those temperatures are likely to peak between six and ten degrees. as we go through monday evening and into tuesday, we've got this little ridge of high pressure keeping things quiet. but all the time this weather front is approaching from the southwest, that is going to gradually spill in more cloud ahead of it. so after a bright start, clouding over. a few scattered showers in the far northwest, more persistent showery rain develops across the channel islands, south west england, wales and eventually into the midlands, north west england and northern ireland by the end of the afternoon. 7 to 11, our overall highs. so as we move out of tuesday into wednesday, it's here where the showers potentially could merge to longer spells of rain as it stays pretty unsettled. the wind direction there coming from a south—westerly, so a very mild direction and that is going to just push that milder air further north across the country. so it does mean that we could see temperatures perhaps into the mid—teens as we go through the middle part of the week.

but it stays pretty unsettled for many of us. take care. welcome to newsday, reporting live from singapore, i'm arunoday mukharji. let's get you the headlines. the us warns israel not to carry out a military operation in the southern gaza city of rafah without a plan to protect civilians.

the political blocs which came second and third in pakistan's election say they'll work together to try to form a government. the head of nato slams donald trump for saying he would encourage russia to attack any nato ally that doesn't spend enough on defence. and we'll talk american football — the half—time show and taylor swift, with only a short time to go til the nfl super bowl in las vegas. we begin the programme with the latest on the israel—gaza war. the us presidentjoe biden has warned israel's prime minister that no military operation should go ahead in rafah in southern gaza unless there's a plan to ensure

the safety of the population. president biden has become the latest leader to voice his