'isa ' is a risk at stem what now is a risk at least of being a serious loss of support by the conservatives to reform. d0 of support by the conservatives to reform-— to reform. do you think the conservatives _ to reform. do you think the conservatives is _ to reform. do you think the conservatives is mentioned | to reform. do you think the i conservatives is mentioned in their statement have factored in the fact that they could well lose both these by—elections and have already lost the one in south gloucestershire? , gloucestershire? the truth is at the beginning _ gloucestershire? the truth is at the beginning of— gloucestershire? the truth is at the beginning of the - gloucestershire? the truth is| at the beginning of the night, rather remarkably, the conservatives more or less said they were going to lose the two, which is not normally what you would expect to see, are one of the things noted about both these by—elections is at the conservative party didn't seem to put in a great deal of campaign effort. rishi sunak didn't appear, there wasn't pressure on tory mps to turn up and make sure they did their bit for the candidates. it's almost as though the conservative party reckon that perhaps might not trying too hard they would help to deflect journalist interest away from the by—elections and thereby perhaps try to bury the bad

news, but i think the truth is that they are still going to discover that although we should say that the turnout in both by—elections is low, and thatis both by—elections is low, and that is up in the conservatives will point to, but despite that being the case, it is very difficult to say that this is anything other certainly in kingswood than a disappointing result. vote down by 21%, pretty much what the opinion polls have also been saying is happening to the conservatives at the moment. fik. happening to the conservatives at the moment.— at the moment. ok. i “ust want to brina at the moment. ok. i “ust want to bring it h at the moment. ok. i “ust want to bring it a t at the moment. ok. i “ust want to bring it a line _ at the moment. ok. i “ust want to bring it a line of_ at the moment. 0k. ijust want to bring it a line of breaking - to bring it a line of breaking news from labour leader sir keir starmer who has reacted to the resulting kingswood. he said it was fantastic for his party and shows people are ready to put their trust in a labour government. he goes on to say by winning in this tory stronghold, we can confidently say that labour is back in the service of working people, and we will work tirelessly to deliver for them. we will work tirelessly to deliverforthem. he we will work tirelessly to deliverfor them. he goes on we will work tirelessly to deliver for them. he goes on to say, to those who have put their trust in us, you could be safe in the knowledge that the labour party will deliver on your priorities. labour will give britain its future back.

so, sirjohn, no surprise that keir starmer happy at that result. {lit keir starmer happy at that result. . ., , ., keir starmer happy at that result. , ., . result. of course, and clearly the labour— result. of course, and clearly the labour party _ result. of course, and clearly the labour party are - result. of course, and clearly the labour party are entitled| the labour party are entitled to feel very happy with the result and they should be congratulated. that said, just remember what we said. basically the labour vote is up by only about half as much as the conservative vote is down, and that is not dissimilar to what happened in mid bedfordshire. it is consistent at least with the evidence of the opinion polls that we are looking at an electorate at the moment that certainly has lost its confidence in the current government, but how far that is going to be reflected in people actually putting a vote on the ballot paper for labour as opposed to some of the other options including reform, i think that is now one of the interesting questions depending on what we now also seen wellingborough that will be asking ourselves during the coming weeks and months. qm. coming weeks and months. 0k, sirjohn,

coming weeks and months. 0k, sirjohn. stay — coming weeks and months. 0k, sirjohn, stay with _ coming weeks and months. 0k, sirjohn, stay with us. _ coming weeks and months. 0k, sirjohn, stay with us. back to hannah miller who has the winning candidate with her, i believe. iamjoined by i am joined by their winning candidate, now mp, damien egan. how are you feeling? it candidate, now mp, damien egan. how are you feeling?— how are you feeling? it hasn't sunk in yet- — how are you feeling? it hasn't sunk in yet. we _ how are you feeling? it hasn't sunk in yet. we have - how are you feeling? it hasn't sunk in yet. we have been - sunk in yet. we have been knocking _ sunk in yet. we have been knocking on doors, speaking to people — knocking on doors, speaking to people and you are never quite sure _ people and you are never quite sure how — people and you are never quite sure how it is going. but it has — sure how it is going. but it has been _ sure how it is going. but it has been a really positive campaign. we've tried to run on issues _ campaign. we've tried to run on issues that— campaign. we've tried to run on issues that people care about, trying — issues that people care about, trying to— issues that people care about, trying to listen to people and focus — trying to listen to people and focus on _ trying to listen to people and focus on addressing those things. _ focus on addressing those things, and it is kind of lucky because _ things, and it is kind of lucky because they think that our residents were telling us other things— residents were telling us other things that keir and the labour party— things that keir and the labour party have been talking about, the cost — party have been talking about, the cost of living crisis, community policing, and they seemed — community policing, and they seemed to chime with the voters in kingswood. what does it mean to you to become an mp? , , become an mp? representing the area ou become an mp? representing the area you are _ become an mp? representing the area you are from, _ become an mp? representing the area you are from, the _ become an mp? representing the area you are from, the area - become an mp? representing the area you are from, the area you . area you are from, the area you grow— area you are from, the area you grow up— area you are from, the area you grow up in. _ area you are from, the area you grow up in, where your family are, _ grow up in, where your family are, it— grow up in, where your family are, it really does, it is a

cliche, _ are, it really does, it is a cliche, but it feels amazing, and — cliche, but it feels amazing, and you _ cliche, but it feels amazing, and you just hope you can do a good _ and you just hope you can do a good job, _ and you just hope you can do a goodjob, because and you just hope you can do a good job, because there are so much _ good job, because there are so much to— good job, because there are so much to do, so much to fix. and honestly— much to do, so much to fix. and honestly you are going when speaking to people and they are sharing — speaking to people and they are sharing some really heartfelt stories. _ sharing some really heartfelt stories, but also a lot of ambition for the area. kingswood is a beautiful part of bristol but it is one that feels — of bristol but it is one that feels neglected after 14 years of conservative government, we had a _ of conservative government, we had a conservative council for eight — had a conservative council for eight years, so there is a lot to do— eight years, so there is a lot to do it _ eight years, so there is a lot to do ita— eight years, so there is a lot to do it a lot to get on with and — to do it a lot to get on with and we _ to do it a lot to get on with and we can totally make a difference. i and we can totally make a difference.— difference. i can tell from listening _ difference. i can tell from listening to _ difference. i can tell from listening to you _ difference. i can tell from listening to you that - difference. i can tell from listening to you that it. difference. i can tell from listening to you that it is| listening to you that it is quite an emotional moment. it quite an emotional moment. it is, and it hasn't really sunk in. is, and it hasn't really sunk in when— is, and it hasn't really sunk in. when working so hard, campaigning every single day, not knowing how it is going to lo, not knowing how it is going to go, having conversations with people. — go, having conversations with people, you are never quite sure, — people, you are never quite sure. are _ people, you are never quite sure, are they going to come and — sure, are they going to come and vote _ sure, are they going to come and vote on the day? and i'm really— and vote on the day? and i'm really lucky because people have — really lucky because people have come and they have shown their— have come and they have shown their support. what are your priorities now _ their support. what are your priorities now as _ their support. what are your priorities now as an - their support. what are your

priorities now as an mp? - their support. what are your. priorities now as an mp? issues that peeple _ priorities now as an mp? issues that people have _ priorities now as an mp? issues that people have been - priorities now as an mp? issues that people have been talking l that people have been talking about— that people have been talking about is— that people have been talking about is being that spokesperson in parliament for our part— spokesperson in parliament for our part of bristol. westminster needs to understand that you _ westminster needs to understand that you can't get a dentist. there — that you can't get a dentist. there is— that you can't get a dentist. there is no dentist accepting nhs — there is no dentist accepting nhs patients anywhere in bristol. it is really hard to get — bristol. it is really hard to get to _ bristol. it is really hard to get to a _ bristol. it is really hard to get to a doctor. people don't feel— get to a doctor. people don't feel safe _ get to a doctor. people don't feel safe on the streets. for so many— feel safe on the streets. for so many people, the cost of living — so many people, the cost of living crisis is notjust a slogan, _ living crisis is notjust a slogan, it is really impacting people _ slogan, it is really impacting people. we have families who have — people. we have families who have been on holiday for years, people — have been on holiday for years, people worrying about what food to but _ people worrying about what food to but in — people worrying about what food to put in the trolley, about heating _ to put in the trolley, about heating their homes in the winter. _ heating their homes in the winter, and it is putting stress _ winter, and it is putting stress on family life as well. and — stress on family life as well. and the _ stress on family life as well. and the other thing is around making — and the other thing is around making the area nicer. i grow up making the area nicer. i grow up in— making the area nicer. i grow up in kingswood and i remember how it— up in kingswood and i remember how it was — up in kingswood and i remember how it was. it is beautiful. it has — how it was. it is beautiful. it has all— how it was. it is beautiful. it has all the _ how it was. it is beautiful. it has all the components there, but it— has all the components there, but it definitely needs some rejuvenation, it needs some love, _ rejuvenation, it needs some love, and _ rejuvenation, it needs some love, and i think all of us that— love, and i think all of us that know and love kingswood have _ that know and love kingswood have much more ambition than what _ have much more ambition than what we — have much more ambition than what we have got in that town centre — what we have got in that town centre now. what we have got in that town centre now— centre now. and the constituency - centre now. and the - constituency boundaries centre now. and the _ constituency boundaries means that the constituency as it is

is not going to exist whenever the next general election comes. i realise again that you have literally been in this job for two minutes, but do you see this as a longer—term job that you hope to do be on the next general election as well if you can? i general election as well if you can? ., ., ., ., , can? i and the parliamentary candidate — can? i and the parliamentary candidate for— can? i and the parliamentary candidate for bristol - candidate for bristol north—east when the new boundary comes in, so the kingswood part of the constituency, i will be the candidate for, and it stretches into staple hill, fish ponds, all areas _ into staple hill, fish ponds, all areas there.— into staple hill, fish ponds, all areas there. how confident are ou all areas there. how confident are you that — all areas there. how confident are you that labour— all areas there. how confident are you that labour might - all areas there. how confident are you that labour might win | all areas there. how confident. are you that labour might win a general election? you are you that labour might win a general election?— general election? you could never take _ general election? you could never take anything - general election? you could never take anything for - never take anything for granted, and we need everyone, like today— granted, and we need everyone, like today in kingswood in an active — like today in kingswood in an active vote, we need the support— active vote, we need the support later in the year. labour— support later in the year. labour will set out a full manifesto that gives lots of things— manifesto that gives lots of things for people to go through an digester, so hopefully that will bring an exciting opportunity as well.

will bring an exciting o- ortuni as well. ., ~ opportunity as well. thank you very much _ opportunity as well. thank you very much for— opportunity as well. thank you very much for speaking - opportunity as well. thank you very much for speaking to - opportunity as well. thank you very much for speaking to us. | opportunity as well. thank you | very much for speaking to us. i know everyone here wants to speak to you, so we will let you go, so thank you very much for talking to us, and congratulations again. so, there we go. the new mp for kingswood, clearly delighted. and starting out on a newjob there that he will see as one where he hopes to make a real difference to this area. bind where he hopes to make a real difference to this area.- difference to this area. and he won't actually _ difference to this area. and he won't actually be _ difference to this area. and he won't actually be the - difference to this area. and he won't actually be the mp - difference to this area. and he won't actually be the mp for. won't actually be the mp for that constituency very long, but as it disappears at the general election, and part of it will becomejacob it will become jacob rees—mogg's it will becomejacob rees—mogg's area, and he was there during the count, wasn't he? , ., . ., , there during the count, wasn't he? , ., , . , he? he is actually currently standing — he? he is actually currently standing right _ he? he is actually currently standing right next - he? he is actually currently standing right next to - he? he is actually currently standing right next to me, | he? he is actually currently i standing right next to me, but doing an interview with another broadcaster at the moment, so we are hoping to speak to him very shortly whenever he has finished with them, we don't want to go and interrupt. at the back story to that is that the back story to that is that the kingswood constituency will be split up into a number of

different areas, and as you just heard damien egan saying, parts of it move off into other constituencies. quite a sizeable chunk is going to become part ofjacob rees—mogg's seat, what is currently his seat, but he has come along to the count tonight, i saw him earlier having a little bit of a chat with the reform party, they came third here tonight, which i think will be seen as a relatively good result for them. this was very much going to be a two horse race, but you have a situation where reform have a situation where reform have beaten the liberal democrats and the green party, so they will be saying that as a significant win, and as soon as we can talk to jacob rees—mogg, we will do exactly that. j rees-mogg, we will do exactly that. ~ , . ~ rees-mogg, we will do exactly that. ~ , ., ~ ., that. i will keep talking to ou on that. i will keep talking to you on the _ that. i will keep talking to you on the hope - that. i will keep talking to you on the hope that - that. i will keep talking to you on the hope that he l you on the hope that he finishes with the other broadcast and you can grab him. if we talk loudly enough, maybe he will think it is awkward and walk over to us.—

walk over to us. keir starmer sa in: walk over to us. keir starmer saying it _ walk over to us. keir starmer saying it is — walk over to us. keir starmer saying it is a _ walk over to us. keir starmer saying it is a fantastic - saying it is a fantastic result, and labour on a national level will be very happy. national level will be very ha . _ �* , , national level will be very a.--m_, i], happy. absolutely, yes. the conservative _ happy. absolutely, yes. the conservative majority - happy. absolutely, yes. the conservative majority was . happy. absolutely, yes. the i conservative majority was over 11,000 in the last general election, and these are the kind of seats that are clearly in play now. labour have just won, and they are very much these types of seats that are in play at a general election, but i think it was interesting earlier when we spoke to the labour mp chris bryant and he was saying, 2019, it feels like a lifetime ago politically when you think about it now, and he was saying he looked at it and thought that there would be many, many years in opposition for the labour party, and of course the general election hasn't happened yet, all kinds of things could change, but the fact that we are talking about this is something that could potentially be plausible is really two— potentially be plausible is reall two ., ., ., really two going to run and nets really two going to run and gets him! _ gets him! we are going tojump in front of the other broadcaster, sorry. there is a media scrum going on, of the things always happen. while we happy here?

thank you very much for speaking to us. what brings you along here tonight? i’m along here tonight? i'm actually _ along here tonight? i'm actually here _ along here tonight? i'm actually here for- along here tonight? i'm actually here for gb - along here tonight? i'm actually here for gb news, because _ actually here for gb news, because i do a programme for them, — because i do a programme for them, and _ because i do a programme for them, and with a by election going — them, and with a by election going on— them, and with a by election going on so near home, i thought— going on so near home, i thought i_ going on so near home, i thought i would go along and help— thought i would go along and help the reporting.— help the reporting. what you make of the _ help the reporting. what you make of the result. - help the reporting. what you make of the result. it - help the reporting. what you make of the result. it is - help the reporting. what you make of the result. it is notl make of the result. it is not as bad as — make of the result. it is not as bad as l _ make of the result. it is not as bad as i had _ make of the result. it is not as bad as i had expected. ifj as bad as i had expected. if you — as bad as i had expected. if you add _ as bad as i had expected. if you add together the conservative and the reform party — conservative and the reform party vote, it is more than the labour— party vote, it is more than the labour party vote. labour didn't— labour party vote. labour didn't get over 50%, and bear in mind— didn't get over 50%, and bear in mind this was a seat labour held _ in mind this was a seat labour held throughout its period of government from 1997 to 2010. if it is _ government from 1997 to 2010. if it is not — government from 1997 to 2010. if it is not winning strongly here — if it is not winning strongly here in— if it is not winning strongly here in a _ if it is not winning strongly here in a by—election, then its prospects _ here in a by—election, then its prospects for the general election are not good. but this is clearly a _ election are not good. but this is clearly a good _ election are not good. but this is clearly a good result - election are not good. but this is clearly a good result for- is clearly a good result for labour, and what you make of the chipmunk one vote. they have come in third ahead of the greens and the liberal democrats. what does that play for the conservative party. it is how we persuade those who voted — is how we persuade those who voted for — is how we persuade those who voted for it in 2019 to vote for it— voted for it in 2019 to vote for it in— voted for it in 2019 to vote for it in 2024, and that means

we need — for it in 2024, and that means we need to— for it in 2024, and that means we need to be offering policies that the — we need to be offering policies that the conservatives have always _ that the conservatives have always stood for. we need to -et always stood for. we need to get taxes down, get the economy going. _ get taxes down, get the economy going, get the bank of england to start — going, get the bank of england to start cutting interest rates _ to start cutting interest rates. it has delayed doing that— rates. it has delayed doing that as _ rates. it has delayed doing that as it delayed putting them up, that as it delayed putting them up. and — that as it delayed putting them up, and we have had terrible failures— up, and we have had terrible failures in— up, and we have had terrible failures in monetary policy, and — failures in monetary policy, and we _ failures in monetary policy, and we need to re—examine the green— and we need to re—examine the green policies which are putting intolerable burdens on businesses and indeed on individuals.— individuals. forgive me, i don't have _ individuals. forgive me, i don't have the _ individuals. forgive me, i don't have the numbers l individuals. forgive me, i| don't have the numbers in individuals. forgive me, i- don't have the numbers in front of me right now, but from memory i think i'd be right in saying, not be corrected widely for not, but if you add in the reform wrote to the conservative party vote this evening, it was above labour, so have reform cost you the by—election this evening? i wouldn't say that, because nobody has a divine right to vote, — nobody has a divine right to vote, we _ nobody has a divine right to vote, we have to win votes. but we must — vote, we have to win votes. but we must make sure we feel to those — we must make sure we feel to those voters.— those voters. let me put it a different _ those voters. let me put it a different way, _ those voters. let me put it a different way, if _ those voters. let me put it a different way, if the - those voters. let me put it a

different way, if the reform | different way, if the reform party didn't exist, with those votes have gone to you, would you have won here? i votes have gone to you, would you have won here?— you have won here? i think a lot of those _ you have won here? i think a lot of those voters _ you have won here? i think a lot of those voters stayed . you have won here? i think a lot of those voters stayed at| lot of those voters stayed at home, — lot of those voters stayed at home, and they might have stayed _ home, and they might have stayed at home. i don't get is as simple _ stayed at home. i don't get is as simple as that. and it is a bit arrogant to say that voters were — bit arrogant to say that voters were iust _ bit arrogant to say that voters were just have shifted over. but it — were just have shifted over. but it shows where we need to be focusing our appeal. what does all of — be focusing our appeal. what does all of this _ be focusing our appeal. what does all of this mean - be focusing our appeal. whatl does all of this mean tonight? we are looking at a potential by—election defeat in wellingborough as well. what does it mean for rishi sunak�*s leadership and your confidence in him moving forward towards a general election?— general election? rishi sunak's leadership _ general election? rishi sunak's leadership is — general election? rishi sunak's leadership is solid _ general election? rishi sunak's leadership is solid and - general election? rishi sunak's leadership is solid and has - leadership is solid and has support, _ leadership is solid and has support, and by—elections don't change — support, and by—elections don't change that. since 0rpington, in whatever it was, 1963, 96 defour, _ in whatever it was, 1963, 96 defour, we have got used to by—election results being erratic _ by—election results being erratic. but isjust something that— erratic. but isjust something that happens. so i don't think we should be surprised. and we should — we should be surprised. and we should be — we should be surprised. and we should be to some extent reassured by the low level of turnout~ _ reassured by the low level of turnout. when tony blair was about — turnout. when tony blair was about to _ turnout. when tony blair was about to win in 1997, you had high — about to win in 1997, you had high turnouts in by—elections because _ high turnouts in by—elections because people were really enthusiastic and they were switching from the

conservatives to labour. that doesn't — conservatives to labour. that doesn't seem to be happening. conservatives just doesn't seem to be happening. conservativesjust seem doesn't seem to be happening. conservatives just seem to be staying — conservatives just seem to be staying at home in by—elections, which is understandable and we know that rishi sunak will still be prime minister— rishi sunak will still be prime minister on friday morning. 30 minister on friday morning. so ou minister on friday morning. you think in minister on friday morning. sr you think in a general election situation, he may be able to get people to turn out. is it still winnable from your perspective, the general election?— perspective, the general election? when it is aptly strikina election? when it is aptly striking when _ election? when it is aptly striking when you - election? when it is aptly striking when you knock l election? when it is aptly l striking when you knock on people's _ striking when you knock on people's doors and a by—election eisai, can count on your— by—election eisai, can count on your support, than on things politicians say, people say, no, — politicians say, people say, no, i'm _ politicians say, people say, no, i'm not voting. when you say, — no, i'm not voting. when you say, come _ no, i'm not voting. when you say. come a _ no, i'm not voting. when you say, come a general election when — say, come a general election when it— say, come a general election when it is— say, come a general election when it is a choice between sir keir— when it is a choice between sir keir starmer and rishi sunak, they— keir starmer and rishi sunak, they say, _ keir starmer and rishi sunak, they say, we don't want keir starmer~ _ they say, we don't want keir starmer. so i think general elections focus people's mines in a different way from a by—election. in a different way from a by-election._ in a different way from a b -election. , ., . .,, , ~., by-election. jacob rees-mogg, thank ou by-election. jacob rees-mogg, thank you very _ by-election. jacob rees-mogg, thank you very much _ by-election. jacob rees-mogg, thank you very much for - by-election. jacob rees-mogg, thank you very much for talking j thank you very much for talking to us. everybody wanted to talk to us. everybody wanted to talk to you, so will let you go. a busy evening here in kingswood, things just starting to wrap up now with the labour party gaining a seat from the conservatives with the majority

of just over conservatives with the majority ofjust over 2000. hannah, thank you very much. you may have been kicked out by the time we get back to you, as they are clearing up around you, but thank you for your coverage there this evening. and if you'rejustjoining us, as hannah said, labour have won the kingswood by—election. let me give you a recap of the actual result now, so if you are just actual result now, so if you arejustjoining us... and here come the results. as we said, damien egan for the labour party has won the seat, and we can hopefully bring you those shortly. i can tell you he won with 11,176 votes. that just ahead, by 2501 results, of sam bromley from the conservative party. and then as we said, the reform party came in third with 2578. i have

given the graphics machine a bit of a kick, so there you can see damien egan 11,176. labour win with 44.9% of the vote, the conservatives on 34.9, and there again the reform party 10.4. so what does that mean in terms of the change in the share? there you can see that, labour gaining 11.5% and the tories losing 21%, and again we are seeing that reform up, and here is your swingometerfor you, at this time, 16 minutes past two in the morning. let's go back to professor sirjohn curtice. i was interested in what jacob rees—mogg was saying, that if

you add together the tory vote and the reform vote, then that would have beaten labour. that has got to be the worry hasn't it for the conservative party. yes, it will. jacob rees—mogg was also honest in saying that the labour party would have won anyway even if reform won't standing, and it will add to the can is of labour mps. —— the can is of labour mps. —— the concerns of labour mps. but so jacob rees—mogg did she find a silver lining in the result is far as the conservatives were concerned, he was saying that the labour party didn't do so well in this by—election as i had done when they won the seat under tony blair between 1997 and 2010, and one has to say he is right in that respect. the ten point labour

majority, that 2500 majority labour had, it is 10% of the vote, and that pairs for example with a 24% majority that labour had in 1987, and also bigger majorities than 10% in 2001 and 2005. as we were saying earlier, yes, clearly a bad result for the conservatives, but it is not quite the big success for labour in quite the scale that sir keir is trying to claim. in the end, this isn't a result where labour have done as well as the party managed to do under sir tony blair back in the 19905 and early 20005. bind the 1990s and early 2000s. and i also wanted — the 1990s and early 2000s. and i also wanted to _ the 19905 and early 20005. and i also wanted to mention the liberal democrats, down 3.5% and coming in behind the reform party. is that going to be a concern for the liberal democrats going forward as we head into a general election

campaign?— head into a general election campaign? head into a general election cam aian? ., , , campaign? the honest truth is the liberal _ campaign? the honest truth is the liberal democrats - campaign? the honest truth is the liberal democrats are - the liberal democrats are focusing their strategy and hopes not on constituencies like kingswood even though they have some local 5trength there, but rather in constituencies where they are going to start off second to the conservatives, the 5o—called blue wall. we have seen them have success in other by—elections, mo5t have success in other by—elections, most recently in somerton and frome where they start off in that position, but basically the liberal democrats have invested all their hopes in doing well in a relatively small number of constituencies where they think the conservatives are going to fall back. it does mean, however, that they are leaving them5elve5 potentially in a very weak po5ition acro55 much of the rest of the country, as we can see in kingswood. but we should also remark upon the green performance. they have managed to increase their share of the vote despite the fact that labour were campaigning hard. ju5t under 6%. i make this the fifth be5t green performance in any by—election, and one of the other ones wa5

and one of the other ones was in somerton and frome, and also in somerton and frome, and also in this parliament. the polls have been quietly saying that the greens are gaining 5%, 6% of the vote. if they were to achieve that it would be their best result in a general election, and we are beginning to see some evidence in these by—election5 that those opinion poll ratings may not be entirely false.- poll ratings may not be entirely false. and what are ou entirely false. and what are you hearing _ entirely false. and what are you hearing on _ entirely false. and what are you hearing on the - entirely false. and what are you hearing on the jungle . entirely false. and what are - you hearing on the jungle drums you hearing on thejungle drum5 on what we are likely to get in wellingborough?— on what we are likely to get in wellingborough? what we have been getting — wellingborough? what we have been getting on _ wellingborough? what we have been getting on social - wellingborough? what we have been getting on social media, l been getting on social media, including some from some reputable professional journalists that both conservative and labour 5ource5 think that the labour party have won, and there may be? that they have one relatively easily, and if they have, that means that the swing will be bigger than it was in kingswood

i5ju5t over 16%, and labour need an 18% swing in wellingborough, 5o need an 18% swing in wellingborough, so maybe they have done better in northamptonshire than they have donein northamptonshire than they have done in south glouce5ter5hire, or alternatively, done in south glouce5ter5hire, oralternatively, maybe done in south glouce5ter5hire, or alternatively, maybe the damage that reform have inflicted on the conservatives inflicted on the conservatives in wellingborough, which is a seat were 63% of people voted leave, maybe reform have inflicted even more damage on the conservatives in wellingborough, and thereby also helped that seat to go in laybutt�*s direction. and i gather we might have to wait an hour before we find out what has happened in northamptonshire. has happened in northam tonshire. �* , northamptonshire. let's get some intelligence _ northamptonshire. let's get some intelligence from - some intelligence from wellingborough. any idea when we might get a result? it

wellingborough. any idea when we might get a result?- we might get a result? it might be a little bit — we might get a result? it might be a little bit sooner, _ we might get a result? it might be a little bit sooner, i - we might get a result? it might be a little bit sooner, i am - be a little bit sooner, i am looking _ be a little bit sooner, i am looking behind me now and a lot of the _ looking behind me now and a lot of the counters have paused. they— of the counters have paused. they have _ of the counters have paused. they have finished their counting. there is a little bit more — counting. there is a little bit more counting going on behind me there. _ more counting going on behind me there, but the steel we are getting — me there, but the steel we are getting it — me there, but the steel we are getting it might be around 3am for the — getting it might be around 3am for the result. when the kingswood election came through, a huge cheer from the labour— through, a huge cheer from the labour activists from the floor beneath — labour activists from the floor beneath me, and one other thing to say, _ beneath me, and one other thing to say, i— beneath me, and one other thing to say, i interviewed the leader— to say, i interviewed the leader of reform uk, and as you heard, _ leader of reform uk, and as you heard, he — leader of reform uk, and as you heard, he was confident and boisterous. but when he went off camera, someone whispered into his — off camera, someone whispered into his ear— off camera, someone whispered into his ear the result of what reform — into his ear the result of what reform uk_ into his ear the result of what reform uk had got in kingswood, that 10.3%, and he gave a huge fist pump — that 10.3%, and he gave a huge fist pumpjust off camera just after— fist pumpjust off camera just after i — fist pumpjust off camera just after i finish speaking to him. they— after i finish speaking to him. they are _ after i finish speaking to him. they are delighted with that kingswood result, and

particularly, they say, the difference between the conservatives and labour. now the question is, can i do the same — the question is, can i do the same thing here? as you say, that— same thing here? as you say, that 16%— same thing here? as you say, that 16% swing that we saw in kingswood wouldn't be enough to overturn — kingswood wouldn't be enough to overturn the conservative majority _ overturn the conservative majority here at the wellingborough account. they would — wellingborough account. they would need around 18% for that. so we _ would need around 18% for that. so we will— would need around 18% for that. so we will have to wait and see whether— so we will have to wait and see whether they have managed to -et whether they have managed to get a _ whether they have managed to get a large swing here and when and where — get a large swing here and when and where than they did in kingswood. and where than they did in kingswood-— and where than they did in kingswood. and where than they did in kiniswood. . ., ., ,., kingswood. and what about the turnout there? _ kingswood. and what about the turnout there? the _ kingswood. and what about the turnout there? the turnout - kingswood. and what about the turnout there? the turnout is l turnout there? the turnout is around 3896. _ turnout there? the turnout is around 3896, which _ turnout there? the turnout is around 3896, which is - turnout there? the turnout is around 3896, which is low, i turnout there? the turnout is| around 3896, which is low, but around 38%, which is low, but we ekpect— around 38%, which is low, but we expect low turnouts from a by—election, and on the conservative campaign in particular they are saying that they— particular they are saying that they struggled to get their vote — they struggled to get their vote out, a lot of people are staying _ vote out, a lot of people are staying at _ vote out, a lot of people are staying at home, sitting on their— staying at home, sitting on their hands and not particularly inspired by either party — particularly inspired by either party. and of course this particular seat

has its own unique story, obviously the reason we are having — obviously the reason we are having this by—election is the former— having this by—election is the former mp, peter bone, was evicted — former mp, peter bone, was evicted from the house of commons, and mp5 voted to uphold — commons, and mp5 voted to uphold the investigation that found — uphold the investigation that found he had bullied staff had been — found he had bullied staff had been sexually inappropriate, he denied — been sexually inappropriate, he denied those charges but that is why— denied those charges but that is why we are having that vote. helen— is why we are having that vote. helen harrison, the conservative party candidate, as his — conservative party candidate, as his partner, and that is an added — as his partner, and that is an added complication and why some people _ added complication and why some people might be staying at home _ people might be staying at home. �* , , home. and interestingly, during the campaign. _ home. and interestingly, during the campaign, they _ home. and interestingly, during the campaign, they weren't - home. and interestingly, duringj the campaign, they weren't very many big hitting tory mp5 going into the constituency to campaign. into the constituency to campaign-— into the constituency to cam-iain. ., ., ,, campaign. know, and i think there was a _ campaign. know, and i think there was a stark _ campaign. know, and i think there was a stark contrast i campaign. know, and i think. there was a stark contrast with labour, — there was a stark contrast with labour, because this week we had sir— labour, because this week we had sir keir starmer, the labour— had sir keir starmer, the labour leader, he was here on tuesday. — labour leader, he was here on tuesday, today getting the vote at wat _ tuesday, today getting the vote at wat yvette cooper, labour's shadow _ at wat yvette cooper, labour's shadow home secretary, so there is a big _ shadow home secretary, so there is a big contrast, i suppose between _ is a big contrast, i suppose between the labour party who threw — between the labour party who threw quite a few front benches at their— threw quite a few front benches at their seat, they asked some senior— at their seat, they asked some senior figures to come up and campaign _ senior figures to come up and campaign here, and the

conservatives very much not doing — conservatives very much not doing that, and i think we can expect— doing that, and i think we can expect that to be part of their messaging if the conservatives do lose — messaging if the conservatives do lose here. it was a complicated and difficult seat to win, — complicated and difficult seat to win, and that may well be part— to win, and that may well be part of— to win, and that may well be part of their rationale for why they— part of their rationale for why they lost _ part of their rationale for why they lost-— part of their rationale for why the lost. ., ,, , ., , . they lost. thank you very much indeed. they lost. thank you very much indeed- but _ they lost. thank you very much indeed. but is _ they lost. thank you very much indeed. but is harry _ they lost. thank you very much indeed. but is harry farley - they lost. thank you very much indeed. but is harry farley in i indeed. but is harry farley in kettering, which is where the wellingborough result will be declared. maybe in the next hour. we will keep an eye on things there. but the big breaking news in the last hour is that labour have won the kingswood by—election, and here is the moment that damien egan was announced as the new mp for kingswood. damion jame5 egan, commonly known damionjames egan, commonly known as damien egan, labour party, 11,176... cheering

that was 11,176. and i do hereby declare _ that was 11,176. and i do hereby declare that - that was 11,176. and | do i hereby declare that damien that was 11,176. and | do - hereby declare that damien egan i5 hereby declare that damien egan is duly elected. thank you. cheering in his acceptance speech, labour�*s newe5t mp 5aid in his acceptance speech, labour�*s newe5t mp said that the country needed a change. in kingswood, i5 the country needed a change. in kingswood, is across the country. _ in kingswood, is across the country, 14 years of conservative government have sucked — conservative government have sucked the hope out of our country _ sucked the hope out of our country. there is a feeling that, _ country. there is a feeling that, no— country. there is a feeling that, no matter how hard you work. — that, no matter how hard you work. you _ that, no matter how hard you work, you just can't move forward, _ work, you just can't move forward, and that with rishi 's recession. _ forward, and that with rishi 's recession, we are left again paying _ recession, we are left again paying more and getting less. it doesn't have to be this way. you _ it doesn't have to be this way. you know _ it doesn't have to be this way. you know it, i know it, we all know — you know it, i know it, we all know it _

you know it, i know it, we all know it. and when the prime minister— know it. and when the prime minister finally finds the courage to give the people a say, — courage to give the people a say, we _ courage to give the people a say, we are going to need each and every— say, we are going to need each and every one of you again to come — and every one of you again to come out _ and every one of you again to come out and vote and make sure your— come out and vote and make sure your voices — come out and vote and make sure your voices are heard. come out and vote and make sure yourvoices are heard. 0ur yourvoices are heard. our country— yourvoices are heard. our country is _ yourvoices are heard. our country is at a crossroads. under— country is at a crossroads. under the _ country is at a crossroads. under the conservatives, we can choose _ under the conservatives, we can choose more managed decline, more _ choose more managed decline, more chaos, more division, or we can— more chaos, more division, or we can choose a changed labour party. _ we can choose a changed labour party. a — we can choose a changed labour party, a government that will put people first, that ensures a child's— put people first, that ensures a child's background isn't a barrier— a child's background isn't a barrier to _ a child's background isn't a barrier to their future, and that— barrier to their future, and that will— barrier to their future, and that will rebuild great britain. the work to give kingswood its future back starts _ kingswood its future back starts now. so that is labour's newe5t mp, damien egan. we can remind you of the resulting kingswood if we take a look at the actual

numbers, so damien egan there on 11,176, the conservative candidate sam bromiley on 8676, and the reform candidate rupert lowe on 2578. if we take a look at the share of the vote, you can see that labour took a share of 44.9% against the conservatives' 34.9%. what does con5ervative5' 34.9%. what does that mean in terms of the change in the share? labour have gone up by 11.5%, big drop for the conservatives, 21.3%, and there you have the reform party up 10.4% and a5 and there you have the reform party up 10.4% and as professor sirjohn curtice wa5 party up 10.4% and as professor sirjohn curtice was already pointing out a little earlier, the green vote has gone up in kingswood by 3.4%. and the swing, 5o kingswood by 3.4%. and the swing, so you can get an idea 5wing, so you can get an idea of the swing, so you can get an idea of the size of the swing from

conservative to labour, that was 16.4%. so labour have won the kingswood by—election, and sir keir starmer has reacted to that. he says the result in kingswood is fantastic for his party, and shows people are ready to put their trust in a labour government. by winning in this tory stronghold, he said, we confidently say that labour is back in the service of working people, and we will work tirelessly to deliver for them. he goes on to say, to those who have put their trust in us, you can be safe in the knowledge that the labour party will deliver on your priorities. labour will give britain its future back. so, the other result that we are waiting for is in wellingborough, and this is the scene live in kettering, and thatis scene live in kettering, and that is where the count is actually happening, and where the result will be declared. this may be in the next hour, our correspondent harry farley was saying a little earlier. there are 11 candidates in the wellingborough by—election, and

it has been held by the conservative party since 2005. i will be back later with more details, and hopefully that result from wellingborough. a reminder that you can continue to follow the by—election on the bbc news website or app. you can on the website or on your bbc mobile device. wall street powers to a new record high, in a big week for artificial intelligence companies. we'll have the details. and troubles in india's start—up ecosystem, which is facing scrutiny from regulators. hello, and welcome to asia business report. i'm arunoday mukharji. let's begin in the us — where a slump in retail sales has raised hopes for interest rate cuts. retail sales fell by 0.8%

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