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by a new yorkjudge in a fraud case relating to his business empire. how one former sub—postmaster�*s battle for compensation highlights the problems still facing many of those affected by the post office computer scandal. good morning. sir chris hoy says he's being treated for cancer. the six—time olympic cycling champion says he's "optimistic, positive and surrounded by love". it isa it is a dry start to the day. really mild _ it is a dry start to the day. really mild out — it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. _ it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. the _ it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. the clouds - it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. the clouds are i mild out there. the clouds are thickening _ mild out there. the clouds are thickening and _ mild out there. the clouds are thickening and umbrellas- mild out there. the clouds are thickening and umbrellas at i mild out there. the clouds are. thickening and umbrellas at the ready— thickening and umbrellas at the ready for— thickening and umbrellas at the ready for this _ thickening and umbrellas at the ready for this evening. - good morning. it's saturday february 17, our main story. the reported death of president putin's most prominent critic, has sparked international outrage and prompted vigils to take place around the world. western leaders have called for an independent investigation into the death of alexei navalny, who has been imprisoned since 2021, on charges widely considered to be politically motivated. the kremlin has dismissed
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the international reaction as "hysterical" and "unacceptable." our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford reports. alexei navalny was a man who dared to speak out in a country where dissent is dangerous. as news of the opposition activist�*s death spread, russians gathered to remember him. no mass processed or mud dominate public fury, just silent tribute at monuments to victims of public repression. ——no mass protests or public fury. there were shouts of shame as this man was dragged off by police. but mostly people seemed stunned. i police. but mostly people seemed stunned. . , , , police. but mostly people seemed stunned. , , ., , stunned. i was seeing the news on my hone. m stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone- my first _ stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone. my first reaction _ stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone. my first reaction was, - stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone. my first reaction was, like, - phone. my first reaction was, like, it was make just a joke. but the news came more and more and more. and i was crying for one hour. i was and i was crying for one hour. i was
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with my fronts. _ and i was crying for one hour. i was with my fronts, and _ and i was crying for one hour. i was with my fronts, and i _ and i was crying for one hour. i was with my fronts, and i was _ and i was crying for one hour. i was with my fronts, and i was broken. i - i with my fronts, and i was broken. i - i realiy— with my fronts, and i was broken. i — i really thought that it couldn't happeh — — i really thought that it couldn't happen. make never. -- - i really thought that it couldn't happen. make never. -- friends. for alexei navalny's _ happen. make never. -- friends. for alexei navalny's wife, _ happen. make never. -- friends. for alexei navalny's wife, this _ happen. make never. -- friends. for alexei navalny's wife, this news - happen. make never. -- friends. for alexei navalny's wife, this news had| alexei navalny's wife, this news had long been feared. translation: if it long been feared. translation: if it is true, i long been feared. translation: if it is true, i want vladimir putin, his entourage, his friends and government do know that they will be held responsible.— held responsible. alexei navalny lon . er his held responsible. alexei navalny longer his politics _ held responsible. alexei navalny longer his politics put _ held responsible. alexei navalny longer his politics put in - held responsible. alexei navalny longer his politics put in the - longer his politics put in the firing line. his campaign against corruption could really big crowds. he denounced vladimir putin and his team as "crooks and thieves". arresting him became almost routine. then three years ago navalny fell desperately ill on a plane. tests in germany revealed he had been poisoned with the novated knowledge. when he recovered he returned to
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russia and was sent prison. the criminal charges started to pile up to keep him there. —— with the nerve agent novichok. navalny had been caught a day before his death, appearing by video link from prison. there was no obvious sign of any sickness, but the business service say he was out working the next day when he collapsed and died suddenly. for vladimir when he collapsed and died suddenly. foeradimir putin, it when he collapsed and died suddenly. for vladimir putin, it wasjust another day. he spent admitting factory workers with lots of smiles and no mention of navalny. but beyond russia by skateboarders there was condemnation. make beyond russia by skateboarders there was condemnation.— beyond russia by skateboarders there was condemnation. make no mistake - putin is responsible _ was condemnation. make no mistake - putin is responsible for _ was condemnation. make no mistake - putin is responsible for navalny's - putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. what has happened to navalny is yet more proof of putin's brutality. no—one should be fooled, not in russia, not at home, not anywhere in the world.
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journalists used are asked navalny constantly if he was afraid for his life and he would brush the question. then, two years ago, he was asked for his message to supporters, if was killed. for the situation when _ supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i _ supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i am _ supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i am killed, - supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i am killed, it - supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i am killed, it is l situation when i am killed, it is very simple — not give up. situation when i am killed, it is very simple - not give up. without navaln , very simple - not give up. without navalny. though. _ very simple - not give up. without navalny, though, the _ very simple - not give up. without navalny, though, the future - very simple - not give up. without navalny, though, the future for. very simple - not give up. without navalny, though, the future for all russians who want to change, the future has never looked bleaker. our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford joins us now. we have had a lot of the public reaction internationally, but what we know of the reaction in russia and what is being said officially? officially not a huge amount. the kremlin spokesperson has dismissed and condemned, in fact, the western reaction as unacceptable. but for now, because we are waiting to hear from alexei navalny's team, his lawyer is heading to the side of the
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present, way beyond the arctic circle, to see what exactly can find out on the ground. alexei navalny's own allies and supporters have also not set a huge amount. they want to be absolutely sure that this statement from the prison service in russia is actually true. as you heard from alexei navalny's wife, she was saying that if it is true, it is terrible, but there is still an f because there is so little trust of statements from authorities. but across roger there were people heading to monuments from the stalin era to leave flowers. it means a lot that they would take the flowers to those monuments. sombre scenes, rather
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than sense of outrage. political control in russia is so tight these days that it is extremely difficult to protest, and at the moment it seems that the mood is more sombre and depressed than one of protest. sarah, for the moment, thank you very much. the time has just come up to seven minutes past six. and you have more on donald trump's latest court case, naga?— former us president donald trump has been ordered to pay nearly $355 million — that's the equivalent of around £280 million. the reason? it's for inflating the value of his assets to secure cheaper loans and insurance. he's also been banned from running a company in new york for three years. our reporter will vernon has more. skyscrapers in new york. a beachfront estate in florida. donald trump's property portfolio looks impressive, but how much of ——is it
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all really worth? a judge impressive, but how much of ——is it all really worth? ajudge has ruled not as much as he said it was. he must pay a huge sum and will be banned from doing business in new york for three years. the former president reacted to the ruling with fury and said he would appeal. it all comes down tojoe biden's all comes down tojoe biden�*s witch—hunt against his political opponent, the likes of which our country has never seen before. you said in third world countries, banana republics, but you don't see it here. mr banana republics, but you don't see it here. ~ , ., , banana republics, but you don't see it here. ~ , .,, it here. mr drum has called the prosecutor _ it here. mr drum has called the prosecutor in — it here. mr drum has called the prosecutor in the _ it here. mr drum has called the prosecutor in the case - it here. mr drum has called the prosecutor in the case corrupt l it here. mr drum has called the i prosecutor in the case corrupt and racist. ~ ., ., racist. we are holding him accountable _ racist. we are holding him accountable for _ racist. we are holding him accountable for lying, - racist. we are holding him - accountable for lying, cheating, and accountable for lying, cheating, and a lack of contrition. ——mr trump. and forflouting the a lack of contrition. ——mr trump. and for flouting the rules that all of us must play by. because they cannot be different rules for different people in this country. and former presidents are no extension. and former presidents are no extension-— and former presidents are no extension. . , ., ., extension. -- exception. donald trum's extension. -- exception. donald trump's wallet _ extension. -- exception. donald trump's wallet was _ extension. -- exception. donald trump's wallet was really -
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extension. -- exception. donald| trump's wallet was really feeling late after last month when he was ordered to pay more than £60 million to writer ejean carroll for the family have. and he still faces dozens of charges and for other cases, including for alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. mr trump is having his legal troubles don't harm his chances at the ballot box. so far, they only seem to have made him stronger. will vernon, bbc news, washington. police in bristol have launched a new operation to tackle youth knife crime, following several fatal stabbings in recent weeks. 16—year—old darrien williams has been named as the latest victim — he died on wednesday evening. our reporter, dickon hooper has more. tributes to 16—year—old darrien williams, who died after being stabbed in bristol. two teenagers, boys aged 15, have been arrested on suspicion of murder. forensics are still at the park. we saw fresh such
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as taking place, police activity clear for everyone to see. the chosen area. _ clear for everyone to see. tie: chosen area, dedicated clear for everyone to see. tte: chosen area, dedicated officers protected to deliver some enforcement and disruption, intelligence capacity building as well, so we can look to identify who is out there involved in the criminality, and also some investigative capacity. so when we bring people in, we have the highest quality investigation to deliver the bestjustice outcomes.— quality investigation to deliver the bestjustice outcomes. best 'ustice outcomes. police have also bestjustice outcomes. police have also berun bestjustice outcomes. police have also begun a _ bestjustice outcomes. police have also begun a new— bestjustice outcomes. police have also begun a new operation - bestjustice outcomes. police have also begun a new operation to - bestjustice outcomes. police have l also begun a new operation to tackle knife crime. welcomed by people like cher dean who helps protect young people from crime and runs a knife amnesty. == people from crime and runs a knife amnes . ,, ., ., , ., amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to exand amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to exoand out — amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to expand out further _ amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to expand out further with _ amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to expand out further with the - amnesty. -- shadene. our aim is to expand out further with the support | expand out further with the support of avid in somerset to step this problem out. of avid in somerset to step this problem out-— of avid in somerset to step this problem out. of avid in somerset to step this roblem out. ., , ., , .,, , problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? _
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problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? it _ problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? it is _ problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? it is massive. - problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? it is massive. the i at the moment? it is massive. the ounr at the moment? it is massive. the young people _ at the moment? it is massive. the young people are _ at the moment? it is massive. the young people are actually - at the moment? it is massive. the young people are actually in - at the moment? it is massive. the young people are actually in fear. young people are actually in fear for their safety.— for their safety. police have said there is nothing _ for their safety. police have said there is nothing to _ for their safety. police have said there is nothing to indicate - for their safety. police have said there is nothing to indicate any. there is nothing to indicate any connection between the attack this week and what happened recently in noel west, but darrien williams's death as raised the focus on knife crime again. dickon hooper, bbc news. ukrainian troops have withdrawn from the eastern town of avdievka, due to a shortage of weapons and ammunition. the area, which is on the frontline of russian advancements, has been devastated by fighting for months and is now almost completely destroyed. the country's new military commander said he'd acted to preserve the lives of his soldiers. the withdrawal is being seen as the biggest change on the frontline since the fall of the nearby town of bakhmut last may. a senior inspector has warned that "deteriorating mental health" and "boredom" among asylum seekers housed at a former military base in essex, could lead to violent disorder. the home office says it takes the safety and welfare of asylum
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seekers extremely seriously and disputes the findings. rishi sunak has urged what he calls the "conservative family" to come together in the wake of the party's defeats in thursday's by—elections. labour overturned big conservative majorities, while reform uk beat the liberal democrats into third place in both constituencies. here's more detailfrom our political correspondent, peter saull. the general sense you get from these two by—election victories for labour is they are on an un— seemingly way to win the general election when it comes. the problem for the conservatives is they are just losing votes to labour but also to reform uk, formerly the brexit party, with a double—digit vote share in the by—elections, the honorary president of reform uk, nigel faris, rather twisted the knife by suggesting conservative members would rather that he was leading the party than rishi sunak. there are those on the right of the conservative party who would like
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the party to take a little more towards the ground that reform is occupying on cutting taxes, slashing immigration. there are others who consider themselves to be more moderate within the conservative party who say that would be dangerous because it could risk alienating a different set of voters entirely. overall, though, the reaction among tory mps has been fairly muted to the by—election losses, and there is no sense of any imminent threat to the prime minister's position. he has been helped in an article from the former conservative leader lord michael howard, in the telegraph, who says rishi sunak is still the man to do it. prince harry has spoken publicly for the first time since his father, king charles, was diagnosed with cancer. while visiting canada to promote the invictus games, he told a us television station that he "jumped on a plane" as soon as possible after being told the news and was grateful for the time spent with his father. how was the visit for you emotionally? i
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how was the visit for you emotionally?— how was the visit for you emotionall ? ., , ., , m emotionally? i love my family. an illness in the _ emotionally? i love my family. an illness in the family _ emotionally? i love my family. an illness in the family can _ emotionally? i love my family. an illness in the family can have - emotionally? i love my family. an illness in the family can have a . illness in the family can have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family. is galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family.— effect for a family. is that possible _ effect for a family. is that possible in _ effect for a family. is that possible in this _ effect for a family. is that possible in this case? - effect for a family. is that possible in this case? i'm| effect for a family. is that - possible in this case? i'm sure, i have _ possible in this case? i'm sure, i have other— possible in this case? i'm sure, i have other trips planned that would take me _ have other trips planned that would take me through the uk or back to the uk, _ take me through the uk or back to the uk, so — take me through the uk or back to the uk, so i — take me through the uk or back to the uk, so i will stop in and see my family whenl family when i can. now, it isjust family when i can. now, it is 'ust about to ufi family when i can. now, it is 'ust about to 14 minutes i family when i can. now, it is 'ust about to 14 minutes past i family when i can. now, it isjust about to 14 minutes past six. - earlier this week, we showed you the launch of a us rocket on joint nasa mission to the moon. now, japan's space agency is hoping to do the same. these things are a long time in the planning. there have been years of delays. there were two failed attempts. this is the moment that the h3 successfully blasted off from its launchpad after midnight in the uk. it's the country's flagship rocket, and could be used in the future to deliver cargo to the moon. many sub—postmasters
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who were wrongly accused of theft and fraud are still fighting for compensation, despite the scandal now being recognised as one of the biggest miscarriages ofjustice in uk history. the cases taking the longest to solve involve the victims who were forced to declare bankruptcy in order to pay back their losses. our business correspondent emma simpson has more. tony downey is finally heading back to his old home in the lake district. it has taken him 15 years to have the courage to return. tony fled abroad when the post office ruined him. irate fled abroad when the post office ruined him-— fled abroad when the post office ruined him. ~ , ~ ruined him. we lost everything. we lost our business, _ ruined him. we lost everything. we lost our business, we _ ruined him. we lost everything. we lost our business, we lost - ruined him. we lost everything. we lost our business, we lost our - ruined him. we lost everything. we l lost our business, we lost our home, i lost my health. it is up and run. we didn't even say goodbye. we went to france. thank you. tow; we didn't even say goodbye. we went to france. thank you.— to france. thank you. tony bought the hawkshead _ to france. thank you. tony bought the hawkshead post _ to france. thank you. tony bought the hawkshead post office - to france. thank you. tony bought the hawkshead post office in - to france. thank you. tony bought | the hawkshead post office in 2001. he said it was buzzing and a dream come true. it's a childcare centre now. what's it like to be back? overwhelming, to be honest. a lot of
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emotions after 15 years of not coming back here.— emotions after 15 years of not coming back here. here it is, your old business. _ coming back here. here it is, your old business. very _ coming back here. here it is, your old business. very bleak. - coming back here. here it is, your old business. very bleak. angry . old business. very bleak. angry that, ou old business. very bleak. angry that, you know, _ old business. very bleak. angry that, you know, this _ old business. very bleak. angry that, you know, this should - old business. very bleak. angryl that, you know, this should have been ours, our business. and now, i live in spain in a rented apartment with no career, you know, no money, no pension, no nothing. tow; with no career, you know, no money, no pension, no nothing.— no pension, no nothing. tony had £35,000 of— no pension, no nothing. tony had £35,000 of shortfalls _ no pension, no nothing. tony had £35,000 of shortfalls at - no pension, no nothing. tony had £35,000 of shortfalls at his - no pension, no nothing. tony had i £35,000 of shortfalls at his branch. he and his wife use their savings and credit cards to balance the books. another 7000 of losses appeared. they could not pay any more. tony resigned and sold up and advised to go bankrupt two months later. ., , ., advised to go bankrupt two months later. . , . ., advised to go bankrupt two months later. . , ., ., . later. health started to decline. i not later. health started to decline. i got headaches, _ later. health started to decline. i got headaches, stress, _ later. health started to decline. i got headaches, stress, anxiety, l got headaches, stress, anxiety, social anxiety and it got a lot worse than that. i didn't realise how bad it had gotten till we got the medical records, you know? i was the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. the medical records, you know? i was suicidal- tony. _ the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. tony, hi! _ the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. tony, hi! he— the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. tony, hi! he is— the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. tony, hi! he is still- suicidal. tony, hi! he is still nervous— suicidal. tony, hi! he is still nervous about _ suicidal. tony, hi! he is still nervous about who - suicidal. tony, hi! he is still nervous about who he - suicidal. tony, hi! he is still nervous about who he may. suicidal. tony, hi! he is still- nervous about who he may media but not diane. it nervous about who he may media but not diane. ., , , nervous about who he may media but not diane. . , , ., not diane. it has been a while. sor , not diane. it has been a while. sorry. it's _ not diane. it has been a while. sorry, it's such _ not diane. it has been a while. sorry, it's such a _ not diane. it has been a while. sorry, it's such a bad - not diane. it has been a while. sorry, it's such a bad thing - not diane. it has been a while. sorry, it's such a bad thing to l not diane. it has been a while. -
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sorry, it's such a bad thing to have to do _ sorry, it's such a bad thing to have to do. ,, ,., sorry, it's such a bad thing to have to do. ,, sorry, it's such a bad thing to have todo. ,, '. to do. she bought the post office from him and _ to do. she bought the post office from him and guess _ to do. she bought the post office from him and guess what? - to do. she bought the post office from him and guess what? she . to do. she bought the post office l from him and guess what? she had shortfalls too. it’s from him and guess what? she had shortfalls too-— shortfalls too. it's difficult, isn't it? horrible, - shortfalls too. it's difficult, | isn't it? horrible, honestly. shortfalls too. it's difficult, i isn't it? horrible, honestly. i swore i would _ isn't it? horrible, honestly. i swore i would never - isn't it? horrible, honestly. i swore i would never set - isn't it? horrible, honestly. i swore i would never set foot| isn't it? horrible, honestly. i. swore i would never set foot in hawkshead again. it swore i would never set foot in hawkshead again.— swore i would never set foot in hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged _ hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged her _ hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged her to _ hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged her to claim _ hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged her to claim for- encouraged her to claim for compensation.— encouraged her to claim for compensation. i've been on antidepressants _ compensation. i've been on antidepressants ever - compensation. i've been on antidepressants ever since l compensation. i've been on l antidepressants ever since all compensation. i've been on - antidepressants ever since all this ever started. we have several audits and each _ ever started. we have several audits and each time they were demanding money _ and each time they were demanding money. the last one that we have said right, — money. the last one that we have said right, you either pay £1200 now or you _ said right, you either pay £1200 now or you are _ said right, you either pay £1200 now or you are going to be prosecuted and you _ or you are going to be prosecuted and you think oh, crikey! i am going to be _ and you think oh, crikey! i am going to be let _ and you think oh, crikey! i am going to be let out — and you think oh, crikey! i am going to be let out of here in handcuffs! this is— to be let out of here in handcuffs! this is awful. we to be let out of here in handcuffs! this is awful-— to be let out of here in handcuffs! this is awful. ~ . g; :: :: :: ., , this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made — this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made my _ this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made my wife _ this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made my wife go _ this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made my wife go to _ this is awful. we had £3000 and they literally made my wife go to the - literally made my wife go to the bank and she talked to her friends to aura money. i thought it was me, you thought it was you. i to aura money. i thought it was me, you thought it was you.— you thought it was you. i thought it was me. you thought it was you. i thought it was me- and _ you thought it was you. i thought it was me. and the _ you thought it was you. i thought it was me. and the same _ you thought it was you. i thought it was me. and the same post - you thought it was you. i thought itj was me. and the same post office. same post — was me. and the same post office. same post office, _ was me. and the same post office. same post office, guess. _ was me. and the same post office. same post office, guess. same - same post office, guess. same problem _ same post office, guess. same problems. here's _ same post office, guess. same problems. here's the _ same post office, guess. same problems. here's the thing - i same post office, guess. samel problems. here's the thing - the post office _ problems. here's the thing - the post office has _ problems. here's the thing - the post office has accepted - problems. here's the thing - the post office has accepted that. post office has accepted that horizon was to blame for tony's
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losses at his branch but they will not admit causing his bankruptcy. so far, he has ended up withjust £10,000 worth of damages. far less than he is owed. the rest of the £140,000 worth of compensation has gone straight to the official receiver to pay off his bankruptcy debts. it’s receiver to pay off his bankruptcy debts. �* , ., , ~ debts. it's an insult. at the moment. _ debts. it's an insult. at the moment, they _ debts. it's an insult. at the moment, they are - debts. it's an insult. at the moment, they are not - debts. it's an insult. at the | moment, they are not even debts. it's an insult. at the - moment, they are not even close to putting me back to where i would have been but they have to admit the causation before they would do that. you know, in my opinion, is that a reason why they are not because then it opens the floodgates to, you know, a proper claim? in a know, a proper claim? in a statement, _ know, a proper claim? in a statement, the _ know, a proper claim? in a statement, the post - know, a proper claim? in a statement, the post office said:
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tonyis tony is doing that. his legal team are dealing with most of the bankruptcy cases. the are dealing with most of the bankruptcy cases. are dealing with most of the bankru -t cases. , , bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that — bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that we _ bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that we have _ bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that we have is _ bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that we have is people - bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear that we have is people are i the fear that we have is people are left in a situation where they have to throw the towel in because their time is running out and they want some sort of resolution and some sort of access to money but the risk there is that they don't get the right compensation. he there is that they don't get the right compensation. he believes tony has not a right compensation. he believes tony has got a very — right compensation. he believes tony has got a very strong _ right compensation. he believes tony has got a very strong case, _ right compensation. he believes tony has got a very strong case, but - right compensation. he believes tony has got a very strong case, butjust . has got a very strong case, butjust how long it will take to unravel. but at least tony is still young enough to keep fighting. emma simpson, bbc news. since the creation of the nhs in 1948, people from all over the world have travelled to britain to work for the service, but their vital roles have been largely ignored. now, an exhibition is telling their personal stories
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through photography, film and interactive storytelling. our reporter cathy killick has the story. hello! it's 30 years since jan and gloria have _ hello! it's 30 years since jan and gloria have seen _ hello! it's 30 years since jan and gloria have seen each _ hello! it's 30 years since jan and gloria have seen each other- hello! it's 30 years since jan and gloria have seen each other butl hello! it's 30 years since jan and - gloria have seen each other but they share a bond nobleman forgets. back in 1994, jan gave birth to her son and gloria was her midwife. irate in 1994, jan gave birth to her son and gloria was her midwife. we were and gloria was her midwife. we were a team. and gloria was her midwife. we were a team- as — and gloria was her midwife. we were a team. as soon _ and gloria was her midwife. we were a team. as soon as _ and gloria was her midwife. we were a team. as soon as you _ and gloria was her midwife. we were a team. as soon as you become - a team. as soon as you become reanant a team. as soon as you become pregnant and — a team. as soon as you become pregnant and you _ a team. as soon as you become pregnant and you came - a team. as soon as you become pregnant and you came to - a team. as soon as you become pregnant and you came to be i a team. as soon as you become l pregnant and you came to be me, a team. as soon as you become i pregnant and you came to be me, i a team. as soon as you become - pregnant and you came to be me, i am part of— pregnant and you came to be me, i am part ofthe— pregnant and you came to be me, i am part of the pregnancy. pregnant and you came to be me, i am part of the pregnancy-— part of the pregnancy. gloria made an unforgettable _ part of the pregnancy. gloria made an unforgettable impact _ part of the pregnancy. gloria made an unforgettable impact on - part of the pregnancy. gloria made an unforgettable impact on jan's i an unforgettable impact onjan's life, providing care and support of her momentous time. and over her 30—plus years as a midwife, she helped thousands of expectant mothers. she came to the uk from st kitts in 1968 aged just 18. she fought hard to be trained as a state registered nurse. fill. fought hard to be trained as a state registered nurse.— fought hard to be trained as a state registered nurse. oh, i look back on it very fondly- _ registered nurse. oh, i look back on it very fondly- i— registered nurse. oh, i look back on it very fondly. i have _ registered nurse. oh, i look back on it very fondly. i have enjoyed - registered nurse. oh, i look back on it very fondly. i have enjoyed my - it very fondly. i have enjoyed my training and i was trained very well in the nhs. and i've enjoyed working
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in the nhs. and i've enjoyed working in the nhs. and i've enjoyed working in the nhs. and i've en'oyed working in the nhs. , ., , in the nhs. and i've en'oyed working inthe nhs. ,., , ., in the nhs. and i've en'oyed working inthenhs. , ., , in the nhs. gloria's contribution is celebrated in _ in the nhs. gloria's contribution is celebrated in a _ in the nhs. gloria's contribution is celebrated in a pop-up _ in the nhs. gloria's contribution is celebrated in a pop-up exhibition. in the nhs. gloria's contribution is| celebrated in a pop-up exhibition in celebrated in a pop—up exhibition in trinity leeds called migration and the making of the nhs. it tells the stories of the immigrants who gave their working lives to the health service. ,, ., �* ., , service. the nhs wouldn't really exist from _ service. the nhs wouldn't really exist from its _ service. the nhs wouldn't really exist from its beginning - service. the nhs wouldn't really exist from its beginning but - service. the nhs wouldn't really exist from its beginning but also still now without migration and a lot of what we learn is in textbooks and history books but these are reallyjust and history books but these are really just stories of everyday people. really just stories of everyday eo - le. ., really just stories of everyday eo - le. . , ., , people. the nigerian nurse was workin: people. the nigerian nurse was working when — people. the nigerian nurse was working when the _ people. the nigerian nurse was working when the pictures - people. the nigerian nurse was working when the pictures were taken — working when the pictures were taken. ,, , ., , taken. the nhs depended on these workers for — taken. the nhs depended on these workers for many, _ taken. the nhs depended on these workers for many, life _ taken. the nhs depended on these workers for many, life was - taken. the nhs depended on these workers for many, life was tough. i workers for many, life was tough. they faced prejudice and discrimination trying to find homes and despite being fully trained, some patients were openly racist. it's a really emotional exhibition. lots of people have swelled up and cried. some of the stories, itjust brings disappointment that these things have happened and for me, it makes me want to be part of ensuring that this doesn't continue. i
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makes me want to be part of ensuring that this doesn't continue.— that this doesn't continue. i found that this doesn't continue. i found that ruite that this doesn't continue. i found that quite shocking, _ that this doesn't continue. i found that quite shocking, and - that this doesn't continue. i found that quite shocking, and it - that this doesn't continue. i found that quite shocking, and it really i that quite shocking, and it really upset _ that quite shocking, and it really upset me — that quite shocking, and it really upset me. to read that gloria had had some — upset me. to read that gloria had had some negative experiences from people _ had some negative experiences from people who, but frankly, ijust so ignorant — people who, but frankly, ijust so ignorant i— people who, but frankly, ijust so ignorant. i couldn't have chosen anybody — ignorant. i couldn't have chosen anybody better to be my wickmayer. gloria _ anybody better to be my wickmayer. gloria is _ anybody better to be my wickmayer. gloria is rightly proud of her career and has kept her delivery kit. she is part of a living history, at last getting the recognition that has long deserved. it's a long time coming because we've given so much but it should be there is a legacy to see how we've helped to build the nhs. cathy killick, bbc news. 6:22. let's look at the weekend papers. just hours after russia said navalny had died, his widow, yulia, vowed that putin "will answer" for the alleged killing, according to the daily mail. the paper also quotes navalny's mother saying he had been "healthy and cheerful" when she visited him earlier in the week.
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the daily telegraph reports that foreign dentists will be allowed to work in the uk without taking an exam to check their qualifications in an attempt by the government to solve the dental crisis. and prince harry "is willing to return to a temporary royal role," according to sources in the times. the duke is understood to have told friends that he would step in to support his father, the king, whilst he is unwell and undergoing cancer treatment. take a look at this. this rare fossil, thought to be 280 million years old, has baffled scientists for decades. isaid it i said it was a fossil but it is not, actually. it is a fake. a hoax. the fossil, resembling a lizard—like creature, is mostlyjust a carved rock painted black, new analysis has revealed. the fossil, discovered in the italian alps in 1931, is shaped like a lizard and has a dark colouration, which researchers thought was preserved skin. however, using high—powered microscopes and chemical analysis, researchers have discovered most of its body is actually human—made. ican give i can give you the name of it, discovered in the italian alps.
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tridentinosaurus antiquu. so are you looking at this, the experts thought it was something extraordinary and turns out it is a painted... it kind of doesn't say much about the scientists who have been puzzled for decades. it was thought to be a type of animal called a pro tsorbaris which is a very early relative of crocodiles and birds but no, it was a __ crocodiles and birds but no, it was a —— protorosaurus. 280 million year old fossil but it is not, a picture on a rock. all i will say is do you know ever need a reason to watch the
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classic film... i forgot i was about to saturday night fever! i’ee classic film. .. i forgot i was about to saturday night fever! i've never seen it, to saturday night fever! i've never seen it. i'm _ to saturday night fever! i've never seen it, i'm sorry. _ to saturday night fever! i've never seen it, i'm sorry. you _ to saturday night fever! i've never seen it, i'm sorry. you have - to saturday night fever! i've never seen it, i'm sorry. you have not. seen it, i'm sorry. you have not lived! john _ seen it, i'm sorry. you have not lived! john travolta? _ seen it, i'm sorry. you have not lived! john travolta? there - seen it, i'm sorry. you have not lived! john travolta? there you | seen it, i'm sorry. you have not. lived! john travolta? there you go. lots of bee — lived! john travolta? there you go. lots of bee gees _ lived! john travolta? there you go. lots of bee gees music. _ lived! john travolta? there you go. lots of bee gees music. classic- lots of bee gees music. classic disco. ~ ., , lots of bee gees music. classic disco. ~ . , ., lots of bee gees music. classic disco. ~ . , . it lots of bee gees music. classic disco. ~ . , ., it is disco. what is good about it? it is the strut, disco. what is good about it? it is the strut. you _ disco. what is good about it? it is the strut, you start _ disco. what is good about it? it is the strut, you start the _ disco. what is good about it? it is the strut, you start the film - disco. what is good about it? it is the strut, you start the film and i the strut, you start the film and you see him strut his stuff and you are in. anyway, the reason... i will never look at you the same way again. tomorrow isjohn travolta's birthday so if you are watching the film, you could toast him who is 70. on sunday. you could have a little toast, watch the film, chetan. doesn't sound right that he is 70. and there is a new bee gees film that will be made, by the way. there are lots of these biotics, musical by opex, i went to see the bob marley one yesterday, and there will be a bee gees one as well ——
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biopics. t be a bee gees one as well -- bioics. ., ., , , biopics. i want to see the marley one but bee _ biopics. i want to see the marley one but bee gees _ biopics. i want to see the marley i one but bee gees unless interested in. d0 one but bee gees unless interested in. , ., one but bee gees unless interested in. ._ one but bee gees unless interested in. do you really think you will see saturday night _ in. do you really think you will see saturday night fever? _ in. do you really think you will see saturday night fever? well, - in. do you really think you will see saturday night fever? well, i - in. do you really think you will see saturday night fever? well, i feelj saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite _ saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite a _ saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite a lot _ saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite a lot of _ saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite a lot of sport - saturday night fever? well, i feel there is quite a lot of sport to - there is quite a lot of sport to watch. i don't have to watch it on a saturday night, do why? it is not the rules? i will, just for the strut and see if it changes my walk. absolutely. yesterday i was saddened to see the news that chris hoy has been diagnosed with cancer and he said he felt obliged to put this news out there because he has kept a private up up until now. he has and i think it was the bit that struck at a lot of people because he said "for the sake of my young family i had hoped to keep this information private but regrettably our hand has been forced" which is deeply uncomfortable when people feel they have to share something as personal as this. sir chris hoy has revealed he's undergoing treatment for cancer. he retired from cycling in 2013 with his record of 17 global titles across four disciplines, making him the most successful track
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cyclist of all time. only sirjason kenny, with seven, has won more olympic golds for britain than hoy, who was knighted in 2009. the 47—year—old now works as a tv pundit. he said on social media that his diagnosis came as a: we wish all the best to sir chris hoy. manchester city take on chelsea later — that's one of seven premier league games. we saw the same fixture in the women's super league last night with city the winners, ending the leaders chelsea's 22—game unbeaten run. the league's top scorer delivered again for the visitors, khadija shaw scoring her 14th goal of the season. it was a game with few clear—cut chances but city had teenage
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goalkeeper khiara keating to thank for a crucial save in stoppage time. 1—0 it finished. a first home defeat for emma hayes' chelsea for three years. city are now joint top of the table with them. relieved, delighted, so glad when the final whistle went. unbelievable character from the team. you know, to come here and do that against this team is unbelievable. i think we showed two different sides to us today. they played really good and we defended resiliently. but we remain humble now. it is a massive win but mr together, go international, combay, eight games to go, stay focused and go again. arsenal have the chance to move within three points of the top two later and could break the record again for a women's super league crowd when they host manchester united. the match at the emirates, which holds just over 60,000 fans, is a sell—out. 59,000 watched them beat chelsea in december. arsenal women are staging six of their 11 home league matches there this season.
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it's been a difficult morning so far for england on day three of the third test in rajkot, and it's been a difficult morning for england. resuming on 207—2, england have lost three wickets, including that of ben duckett, who was dismissed for 153. his 150 came from just 139 balls — the third fastest 150 ever made by an englishman in test cricket. jadd avenue was the man to get him at lunch. , ., jadd avenue was the man to get him at lunch. , . _ ' , —— yadav. in the championship, southampton are back into the automatic promotion spots after a 2—0 win at west brom. there was an early flash point with the west brom manager carlos corberan being sent off for touching the ball whilst it was still in play. you'll see it here bottom right of your screen. corberan touching the ball. shouldn't have done that and saw red. saints then took the lead
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through ryan fraser before david brooks here added a second to seal the win. southampton are up to second again but leeds can leapfrog them if they avoid defeat at plymouth this lunchtime. tiger woods has withdrawn from the genesis invitational in california due to illness. the 15—time major winner was taken off the course shortly after teeing off on the seventh. it was his first appearance on the pga tour since the masters last april. rory mcilroy bounced back from his opening—round 74, carding a more impressive 66 to safely make it through to the weekend, still well off the pace set by the leader patrick cantlay, who has a five—shot lead. super league champions wigan get their season under way later when they travel to castleford tigers. rugby league legend sam burgess, meanwhile, is the new warrington coach and takes his team to france to face catalans dragons. last night, leeds needed a late try from sam lisone to break
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the deadlock with salford red devils at headingley, the rhinos taking the victory 22—16. elsewhere, saint helens beat london broncos 40—4 on their return to the top flight and huddersfield giants won 16—8 at leigh leopards. edinburgh scored three second—half tries to beat zebre 24—19 and move up to fourth in the united rugby championship table. zebre led 10—3 at the break before the scottish side fought back, dave cherry powering over to seal the comeback late on. now, this try from joe roberts was the only moment ofjoy for scarlets fans in llanelli as they watched their side get thrashed 42—7 by munster. the welsh side remain 14th with just two wins all season. the new netball super league season gets under way in the next few hours. this campaign will be the last in its current format as it prepares to relaunch as a professional league next year. all 10 teams will take
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to the court later at nottingham's motorpoint arena with defending champions loughborough lightning taking on surrey storm. everyone will say they will win the super league. you don't pay this level if you don't want to win, but i genuinely believe — welcome we got the experience, we've got the players we have the coaches behind us, to bushes over the line and get us, to bushes over the line and get us holding the trophy at the end of season again. loughborough's a la clark there. -- ella. the upsets just keep coming at the welsh open snooker — the world champion luca brecel the latest big name to crash out. the belgian was beaten 5—3 by martin o'donnell, who's into his first ever ranking event semifinal. he'll play elliott slessor later for a place in the final.
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the five—time winnerjohn higgins is safely through to the semis. he beat northern ireland's mark allen by five frames to two and will face gary wilson later today. now, heavy snow can bring many sports to a standstill, but not rallying. they're positively embracing all the white stuff at the second round of the world rally championship in sweden. britain's elfyn evans has some work to do to get back on course, though. this was quite a moment for him on stage seven. he'll start today fifth overall and almost two minutes off the lead. he survived it. he did very well to get out of that snow bank. that continues later this morning. that looks fast, — continues later this morning. that looks fast, doesn't _ continues later this morning. that looks fast, doesn't it? _ continues later this morning. “that looks fast, doesn't it? chetan, thank you so much.— —— 6:33am, now. last month, more than 70 athletes with intellectual disabilities took part in great britain's first ever winter games at the special olympics. bbc sport'sjoe wilson followed some of their experiences.
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just because we've got a disability doesn't mean that we are children. we're adults and we have hopes and dreams like everybody else. without sports, none of us would be here. i sometimes think about how to step up strong and get out there and be who i am. cheering to be part of the team and be on the squad. cinque giorni a folgaria. in northern italy, the town of folgaria. population 3,000, plus visitors. this winter, this week — these visitors. let's go west mids! woo! skaters, skiers, officials, volunteers representing their clubs,
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creating here the first ever british winter games for the special olympics, for intellectual disability, with a guiding philosophy... let me win. but if i cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt. cheering and applause we have to come to international countries to guarantee the snow and the environment for these winter games. but what it does is showcase that pathway of opportunity for people with intellectual disabilities to take part in sport. when you see people on the slopes, in the ice rinks, you feel that the athletes have a sense of freeness. they feel like they're doing something that everybody else does. directly above the town — the peaks. cheering special olympic sports always begins with a process called divisioning. everyone is assessed
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for their ability and everyone will compete against others of a similar level. now, every level has medals, every medal has the same value, and everyone is here to win. commentator: he's got some pace. woo! that's why david corr gave everything for the finishing line and beyond. it was soon clear that david was all right, actually, more than all right. went up to the corner, i let rip of my skis. you can drive so much harder. i, i... i cannot do a stop. but i keep, keep, keep going to the finish line. then things to be happening. then i just fall, like you just saw. thenjust spot—on. did it hurt? bit, but no. laughs so, next time, are you going
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to have the same speed, but maybe a bit more control, david? no. your mum and dad are over there, i think. i'm not sure if they're happy about that. tough. laughter mum and dad, what is your reaction to that interview? laughter we're not sure, really. but we'll be having a chat. proud dedicated parents are vital. but for people with intellectual disabilities, sport provides precious independence. mikey lines said goodbye to his mum at the airport. see you soon. i will. are you going to be good? i will be good. supported by team—mates and staff, he's travelled for the first time in his life independently. i like to do some races and i'm looking forward to the closing ceremony and disco. i have to be very brave whilst i'm skiing. yeah.
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and i promise i won't fall over. and i hope i don't miss any gates. that would be very good. how did it feel when you said goodbye to your mum at the airport? yeah... they said good luck for me and i hope i do very well at skiing. yeah. and ijust enjoy myself and taking part of it. all: wahey! yeah, because i'm independent and i like to do different things like bowling in guildford and bowling in tolworth. yeah. and i like skiing on sundays as well. fantastic. yeah. hi. the competitors here try to find dry slopes near to their british clubs to practise. for many, this was actually the first time they'd skied on snow. crowd shouts encouragement so tell me, is it different when you're on a dry slope
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and then on real snow? it's easier on snow. it's easier? yeah. is it more fun? yeah. why is it easier? because it's smoother? yeah. and what did you think of all the supporters here? amazing. they did a good job. yeah? yeah. does that help you feel proud? yeah. go, josh. go on, josh. i find it a bit like... ..like challenging. so, when you're skiing on a dry slope and then you come to the real snow here, is it different? yes. well different. i went to birmingham once, fake snow. - yes. yeah. tell me the difference between fake snow and real snow. you can tell the difference when you're on it. - do you go faster? yeah. speed alone isn't always the aim. lizzie williams from wales learned brand—new techniques while she competed, with her italian guide right by her side. spectator: well done, lizzie!
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in this vision of sport, every level of ability has a place and this is the result. cheering go on, lizzie. that was quite, you're quite emotional. yes, iam. tell me why. because we worked a lot for this race on these days, because the first time, first race, we had some difficulties. we had struggle. we struggling on following each other. and today we finally did it. you got to the bottom, lizzie. not only, we did all of the gates. all of the gates. yes. directly beneath the slopes, the sport moves indoors. folgaria's very own ice rink a stage.
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so lots of the skaters are working five times a week in their training programmes. and for our athletes, particularly when they've got an intellectual challenge, it's quite difficult to remember all these routines, so they work really, really hard to get everything right. and they practise and they practise. and then when they come out to perform, they've done all the hard work and then they can just let it rip and they can really enjoy it. what was in your heart when you were watching that today? i loved watching them enjoy themselves so much. and you could see all this like little challenges that they had set themselves. you know, whether it was a performing goal because they wanted to be barbie on the day and sort of like express all the movements, or they wanted to nail some elements that they hadn't done earlier in the week. they wanted this to be the special performance that they would take home and remember. and they were selling it to us and it was capturing so many special
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moments for them. ijust loved watching them skate. cheering what does the coach tell you to really concentrate on when you're doing your routine? keep practising, focus and listen. so to be a part of the team be on the squad. it'sjust the same for these guys as it is for the other guys that achieve national status, international status. meg's very dedicated. she's at the rink for an hour, hour and a half every morning before college. so we're up at 5:15 to get meg out the door to train. so, you know, meg puts an awful lot of work in, as does mum behind the scenes to get her there, to produce a performance like this today. cheering and applause we never imagined that meg would get to this level in sport. but events like this give her a chance to compete on an international stage.
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sport is so much more than sport when it's used in the right kind of way. sport expands the world for these competitors. jenny lee fits in practice between her shifts at work. she has a learning disability, she's deaf. jenny has cochlear implants, and through skating, she has confidence. it's actually my first time being in italy and it's kind of like on my bucket list to go. so i'm like, i'm here, so... yeah. skating on that rink is very, very smooth to my home rink. my home rink is very bumpy. sometimes there's like condensation coming from the ceiling, and just a bump where i'm practising a trick. it changes what i can do, itjust sometimes changes the speed of it on the ice. but sometimes, sometimes when i'm at the skating rink it feels like i'm driving a car, you know. sometimes when you're driving a car over a speed bump, that's what it feels like with my blade. so i'm just like, nope, not doing it. i'm not doing any. that must be exciting then to get on a really good surface. like proper smooth surface here. i mean, the routine looked incredible from where i was standing. what did you think of it today? yeah, i really enjoyed it.
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trying to... with that song i played, i tried to like get people to enjoy the place and just, you know, bring the party. yeah. # ain't nobody gotta tell you # what you gotta do. many people with different i disabilities can do the sport, what they really want to do. so, i will try to sort - of encourage them to do.. just give that push and to stay, you know, give it a go. - it's all about having fun and just seeing what it is all about. - but my number one thing is to try and get italian pizza. _ that's my number onej thing, an italian pizza. i've been waiting this! i reckon you can get an italian pizza in italy. yes. laughter the gala performances were a celebration for the figure skaters and for all those who support them. cheering closing the programme, stephanie gott. from your perspective, how do you think the routine went today? 0k. it went how i planned it weeks ago.
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it was dedicated to my favourite coach, pam. she is the golden coach in my eyes. she's been a part of our family the last 13 years and she doesn't know it. and she gets me ready always. she helps me pick the best music. we have a laugh at our lessons and she's the best coach you could ask for. thank you. 0h! can i ask you to think back to 13 years ago, and then think of the routine we saw from steph today and try and sort of... so, when she first came on, she was a little bit unsteady on one side, obviously unsure of herself. and gradually, obviously, the skating strengthened her leg up because she had a stroke when she was a baby and just, yeah — you've strengthened up, haven't you? yeah. she'sjust worked so hard to do everything, you know? everything's a challenge and she fulfils it, don't you? steph, can i ask you how important it was for you when you're doing
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all that practice, to have a big games that you're aiming for? how does that help? it helps when i've got my family support. this week, i had some messages from home, like from my nephew. he was cheering me on yesterday. i've been teaching him for weeks to say, "go auntie steph!" and they sent — all my sister's kids sent pictures and thatjust made everything better because they're just too cute. laughs with a bit of cheek. can i ask you this? when you're doing the routine, what are the main things that the coach tells you that you try and keep in your mind when you're doing the routine? keeping time and remember all the moves that we teach you. fantastic. and enjoy yourself. she'sjust so dedicated in her practice. she has a book, she ticks it all off. she goes through all of it and she stays on the ice for three hours most days. she really works hard. cheering resilience. life with an intellectual disability demands it. all the athletes know it.
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cheering three, two, one. go on! back on the slopes, aberdeen's laith hou hou on the slalom run past the gates. just too close to one. i just fell on the ice and hurt my knee. laith could finish but in the rules, he must get himself up and back on his skis. spectators chant: up! u - ! that resilience, laith found it. i had managed to stand myself. come on, laith, let's go! come on. cheering and then what did you do? you finished the course, didn't you? yeah, i did finish the course. and when you heard all the people cheering when you came across the line, they were very proud of you. yes, idid. were you proud of yourself? yes.
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thank you, laith. you're welcome. jack hale is back with his mates. his friendships have been forged through skiing. he tried other sports. he loves this one. when i first went out skiing, ifelt... ..nervous to happy, into a smile. i try to feel comfortable and be confident and make sure that i'm proud of myself. i had a neck injury and that's what... ..shut me down. the hole injack�*s spinal cord wasn't caused by skiing, but it was going to stop him skiing. that's what everyone feared. it was very severe and he was told he could never do sport again
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and it knocked him flying. it knocked us all flying. and after about two months, we thought, "well, now his life, "he hasn't got his sport, hasn't got his friends. "we need to do something about that." and he worked and worked and worked at physio relentlessly week in, week out. well, that looks a good exercise, jack. yes, it helps with all my muscles. does it? yes. and after a year, got back to being on the slopes and being back with his friends. wow. it's his world. jack has had difficulties. he has underlying medical conditions. but thisjust brings out the best in him. and the day we leave to go on a trip with special olympics, especially things like the nationals, he's absolutely buzzing. he's a different person. and so to me, it's really important
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to see all the guys really happy but doing the sport that they're doing themselves. it's nothing to do with us. they've achieved it. next up, we have bib number15. we have got jack hale from south—west. - cheering and applause. i sometimes think about how to step up strong and get out there and be who i am. just be safe. be careful. yeah, ok. they're very sharp. the whole of my life is really amazing, who i am. and it's incredible to be a skier, who i am. i'm glad i'm going out there to a place i love, a beautiful career, and i'm excited already. brilliant. and loads of your friends are here, aren't they? yes, they are. so you get to do sport and you get to have fun with your friends. sounds great. sounds great to me. cheering
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as a national winter games, this was a multi—sport event, and an opportunity to try something different, something new. now, skiing and skating take a lot of practice but here's something more straightforward. if you've got snow and you've got a snow shoe, then straight away, look, you're doing snowshoeing. snowshoeing is a chuck the shoes on, hold your poles and head off along the track. so, for us, in terms of that inclusive agenda, it really hits that lower—ability level. it's open for everybody, and it's something that you don't necessarily need snow to do. it can be trained on on sand. you know, you can train in all different types of environment, and it's transferable to the snowshoeing track when you get out here. it's about conditioning,
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it's about focus and we're trying to develop those skills in our athletes, just as we are in terms of the cardio and the fitness. so, yeah, different, different type of activity for our guys to take part in. and even mascots can do it. yes. our yeti has been out on the snowshoeing track having a great time with our athletes. crowd: 0h! this is a competitive space. it's also a fun space for freedom. but these days took two years to plan. for athletes with special needs, there has to be extra care. sponsors help. there's no government or lottery funding for this event. instead, led by adrienne purdie, there's unwavering, unpaid effort. katie, foods on the table and you're not here! each athlete has an individual need, so are those needs met and how are they going to cope? and each athlete reacts differently to situations, so, we're always — for us, the way this venue works is because we've got the skiing just
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over there and the ice rinks in town and the snowshoeing here, it's all very accessible so we're not transporting them too much that, you know — getting on and off buses isn't particularly easy for some of our athletes, you know, so there's that additional level of planning that goes into it. hello, james. how are you this morning? good. morning, morning. the organising committee — so we're from grampian, scotland — there's five of us on that. and this is — this is pure volunteer time for us. and then we rely on event volunteers and competition volunteers to come out and serve the lunches, help with the medal ceremonies, help on the piste. and so, we have another 30 of those, and we are just blown away that people — by people's generosity to come and give up their holidays and pay their own way to come and help us to do this. and they're a great bunch of volunteers. so, to make it clear, people are paying to be here, on their annual leave... yes! ..to make this happen. yes. and they love it.
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and their reward is when they go snowshoeing with the athletes and, you know, those are the times — but, yeah, and they do it because when you see the athletes being able to compete, when you see them being able to do their events and the additional things like the snowshoeing and the smiles on their faces and the enjoyment that they have, that's — that's — that's what makes it all worthwhile. it's the first time we've brought all these sports together under a national winter games banner. so, having skating, slalom, super—g, downhillall together, with all of our athletes together for the first time, we will absolutely do that again, without a doubt. we want everybody with an intellectual disability to have the opportunity to be involved in special olympics. that's what we're here for, because we see the impact of being involved. but from a societal point of view, we also know what a difference that makes. so, an event like this really, really helps us shine that light, and you can't escape the fact that resource is everything. and we can do so much more with more resource.
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and by resource, it all will come back to funding. the future will also be guided by the competitors themselves. katie day from the west midlands is the athletes leader — a formidable skier. i'd been waiting all week to meet her. it was well worth it. katie, thanks so much for your time. it's great to see you here at the end of the week in folgaria. now, before i came out here, people said, "keep an eye on katie "when she skis because she does something special near the end "when she roars." cheering katie roars what are you thinking when you're skiing, katie, out there? itjust releases the energy. the whole energy. i'm thinking, "let's get down there quick!" it's just the whole experience of skiing in general, is the energy. it's an electrifying experience out there. i get the impression, i think,
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katie, you're really proud to be on the athlete leadership team — is that right? 100% agree with you on that one, joseph. giggles it's made a huge difference in my life. i've made lots of lovely friendships. it's also given me the key ingredients that i need in life. confidence, voice, a voice, friendship, fun, laughter, sportsmanship. what are the kind of challenges, do you think, that a lot of people with intellectual disability have in their lives, katie? people treat us like kids and we are not kids. we are people with feelings. just because we've got a disability, it doesn't mean that we are children. hmm. we are adults with hopes and dreams like everybody else. with the right support, we can achieve our hopes and dreams. when people with intellectual disability are trying to get opportunities, do you think sport can really help with that? absolutely, 100%. and special olympics can help that because without special olympics, i wouldn't have the confidence
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to be where i am today and express my voice the way i do now. well done! yay! the sport is here, katie, forjust a few days, but do you think sport can change people's lives with intellectual disability? absolutely, 100%. without sport, none of us would be here. in 2025, athletes from all over the world will gather for a global winter special olympics. a few of these competitors will be selected to take part. there'll be a british delegation. numbers will be limited. 74 athletes took part in the first—ever british winter games. back in the town square with the mayor, they gathered for the presentations and the closing ceremony. many of the british special olympians left italy with medals. cheering all of them travelled home with precious memories.
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cheering and applause five days of sport in folgaria to empower the rest of their lives. hopefully. cheering and applause and to be absolutely clear — jenny lee did get her italian pizza.
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good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today: international outrage follows the announcement that russian opposition leader alexei navalny has died. —— died in prison. his supporters gather in russia to pay tribute, while western leaders warn vladimir putin he will face the consequences. putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. donald trump is ordered to pay nearly £300 million by a new york judge in a fraud case relating to his business empire. after defeat into by—elections, rishi _ after defeat into by—elections, rishi sunak calls for conservative voters _ rishi sunak calls for conservative voters do — rishi sunak calls for conservative voters do unite behind him. the title race titans _
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alexei navalny was a man who dared to speak out in a country where dissent is dangerous. as news of the opposition activist�*s death spread, russians gathered to remember him. no mass protest or public fury, just silent tribute at monuments to victims of political repression. there were a handful of arrests and shouts of "shame" as this man was dragged off by police. mostly, though, people seemed stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone. my first reaction was, like, it was — must be just a joke. but the news came more and more and more. and i was crying for one hour. i was with my friends. i was broken. i — i really thought that it couldn't happen. like, never.
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for alexei navalny's wife, this news had long been her worst fear. translation: if it's true, | i want putin, and his whole entourage, his friends and government do know —— to know that they will be held responsible. alexei navalny long knew his politics put in the firing line. his campaign against corruption could really big crowds. he denounced vladimir putin and his team as "crooks and thieves" — arresting him became almost routine. then, three years ago, navalny fell desperately ill on a plane. tests in germany revealed he had been poisoned with novochok, a nerve agent. when he recovered he returned to russia and was sent prison. the criminal charges started to pile up to keep him there. —— novichok.
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navalny had been in court a day before his death was announced, appearing by video link from prison. his persistent chair was, in itself, and active resistance. —— cheer. there was no obvious sign of any sickness, but the prison service says he was out working the next day when he collapsed and died suddenly. for vladimir putin, it was just another day. he spent admitting factory workers with lots of smiles, and no mention of navalny. but beyond russia, there was condemnation. make no mistake — putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. what has happened to navalny is yet more proof of putin's brutality. no—one should be fooled, not in russia, not at home, not anywhere in the world. journalists used to ask navalny constantly if he was afraid for his life and he would
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brush the question. —— the question off. then, two years ago, he was asked for his message to supporters, if was killed. for the situation when i am killed, it is very simple — not give up. without navalny, though, the future for all russians who want change, the future has never looked bleaker. our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford joins us now. your piece ended with navalny talking about the moment of his own death. striking in itself. tell us more about the reaction in russia. it is extraordinary, isn't it? one of the question journalists used to always ask alexei navalny, was why he was still free, and the second would be whether he was afraid for his life. it was a question he would brush off and got tired of answering. but he always knew the risk of his political activism in russia. he chose to go back to russia. he chose to go back to russia after he had been poisoned, after somebody had tried to kill him with a weapons grade nerve agent. he
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knew absolutely what he was going back to bridges to be there because he didn't want to take the option of becoming a political emigre, a russian politician forced out of the country becoming increasingly out of touch and irrelevant. he went back touch and irrelevant. he went back to russia and was imprisoned. for the last three years he has endured difficult conditions, like in that russian prison, beyond the arctic — well, recently, beyond the arctic circle. he was in another prison before that. but he was frequently in punishment cells. even in prison he was published further and his supporters avoid been concerned for his health. they have raised the alarm multiple times in the past. now alexei navalny's lawyer is expected to arrive at the present today and confirm for himself what is ugly has happened there. but the mood across russia as people begin to absorb what has happened, it is extremely sombre and dejected.
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people are quite stunned by what happened. people are quite stunned by what ha ened. ., people are quite stunned by what ha ened. . ., ., happened. sarah, for the moment, thank ou happened. sarah, for the moment, thank you very _ happened. sarah, for the moment, thank you very much. _ it is six minutes past seven a.m.. and naga, you have more on donald trump and the story in new york? yes, former us president donald trump has been ordered to pay nearly $355 million — that's the equivalent of around £280 million. he's accused of inflating the value of his assets to secure cheaper loans and insurance. he's also been banned from running a company in new york for three years. our reporter will vernon has more. skyscrapers in new york. a beachfront estate in florida. donald trump's property portfolio looks impressive, but how much is it all really worth? ajudge has ruled not as much as mr trump said it was. he must now pay a huge sum and will be banned from doing business in new york
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for three years. the former president reacted to the ruling with fury, and said he would appeal. it all comes down to biden — his witch—hunt against his political opponent, the likes of which our country has never seen before. you see it in third world countries, banana republics, but you don't see it here. mr trump has called the prosecutor in the case corrupt and racist. we are holding him accountable for lying, cheating, and a lack of contrition, and for flouting the rules that all of us must play by. because there cannot be different rules for different people in this country — and former presidents are no extension. —— exception. donald trump's wallet was really feeling late after last month when he was ordered to pay more than £60 million to writer e jean carroll for defaming her. and he still faces dozens of charges and for other cases,
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including for alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. we will see you on the trail! thank you much, everybody. mr trump is having his legal troubles don't harm his chances at the ballot box. so far, they only seem to have made him stronger. will vernon, bbc news, washington. police in bristol have launched a new operation to tackle youth knife crime, following several fatal stabbings in recent weeks. 16—year—old darrien williams has been named as the latest victim — he died on wednesday evening. our reporter, dickon hooper has more. tributes to 16—year—old darrien williams, who died after being stabbed in bristol. two teenagers, boys aged 15, have been arrested on suspicion of murder. forensics are still at the park. we saw fresh searches taking place — police activity clear for everyone to see.
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patrols in the area, but dedicated officers to deliver some enforcement and disruption, intelligence capacity building as well, so when we do bring people into custody, we can look to identify who is out there involved in the criminality, and also some investigative capacity. so when we bring people in, we have the highest quality investigation to deliver the bestjustice outcomes. police have also begun a new operation to tackle knife crime. it's welcomed by people like shadene, who helps protect young people from crime and runs a knife amnesty. our aim is to expand out further with the support of avon and somerset to stamp this problem out. how big a problem is it at the moment? it's absolutely massive. the young people are actually in fear for their safety. police have said there is nothing to indicate any connection between the attack this week
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and what happened recently in knoll west, but darrien williams's death as raised the focus on knife crime again. dickon hooper, bbc news. ukrainian troops have withdrawn from the eastern town of avdievka, due to a shortage of weapons and ammunition. the area, which is on the frontline of russian advancements, has been devastated by fighting for months and is now almost completely destroyed. the country's new military commander said he'd acted to preserve the lives of his soldiers. the withdrawal is being seen as the biggest change on the frontline since the fall of the nearby town of bakhmut last may. a senior inspector has warned that "deteriorating mental health" and "boredom" among asylum—seekers housed at a former military base in essex could lead to violent disorder. the home office says it takes the safety and welfare of asylum seekers extremely seriously and disputes the findings. rishi sunak has urged what he calls the "conservative family" to come together in the wake of the party's
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defeats in thursday's by—elections. labour overturned big conservative majorities, while reform uk beat the liberal democrats into third place in both constituencies. let's talk to charlotte right. good morning to you. it has been a bruising week, hasn't it? it has been a bruising through weeks if you look at rishi sunak�*s leadership, and now he has to bring the party together with so much talk of factions. «a together with so much talk of factions. �* , factions. -- few weeks. and his messages _ factions. -- few weeks. and his messages stick _ factions. -- few weeks. and his messages stick with _ factions. -- few weeks. and his messages stick with me - factions. -- few weeks. and his messages stick with me and i factions. -- few weeks. and his messages stick with me and my factions. -- few weeks. and his i messages stick with me and my plan. many conservative mps will be waking up many conservative mps will be waking up this morning feeling despondent after the by—election losses. there were two big wins for labour but the conservatives also lost votes to another party, formerly the brexit party, reform uk, their honorary president being nigel farage. it was the first example of a concern that many conservatives have had that they will lose support to reform uk when it comes to an election. it has prompted some conservative mps to come out and a group they call themselves the new conservatives
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have been saying "we need to toughen our stance on immigration and reduce taxes — an attempt to win over voters that they feel they are losing to reform uk. rishi sunak has written in the telegraph saying "if you want those things, stick with me and my plan." he has called for the conservative family, as he puts it, to come together. that seems a direct message notjust to members of the electorate who might be swayed by reform uk, but his own mps as well. but it doesn't seem to be any imminent threat to rishi sunak�*s leadership as we might have been talking about in previous weeks and months. it seems like the mood among conservative mps is that now isn't a time for a leadership challenge and thatis time for a leadership challenge and that is certainly a statement that was put out by lord howard, michael howard, former leader of the conservative party, writing in the telegraph today, as well. ——in an article in the telegraph. but there is despondency among many conservative mps as well. thank you
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charlotte. that _ conservative mps as well. thank you charlotte. that is _ conservative mps as well. thank you charlotte. that is a _ conservative mps as well. thank you charlotte. that is a political- charlotte. that is a political correspondent charlotte wright. prince harry has spoken for the first time since his father, king charles, was diagnosed with cancer. while visiting canada to promote the invictus games, he told a us television station that he "jumped on a plane" as soon as possible after being told the news and was grateful for the time spent with his father. how was that visit foryou, emotionally? look, i love my family. an illness in the family can have a galvanising or sort of reunifying effect for a family. absolutely. is that possible in this case? l sure, i have other trips planned i that would take me through the uk or back to the uk, - so i will stop in and see my it is 7:14am. earlier this week, we showed you the launch of a us rocket on a joint nasa mission to the moon. now, japan's space agency is hoping to do the same.
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i never get bored of seeing a rocket launcher. never. and these things, they are so long in the planning. there have been years of delays — two failed attempts. at last, the h3 successfully blasted of its launchpad after midnight in the uk. it could be used to deliver cargo to the moon. , ,, it could be used to deliver cargo to the moon-— it could be used to deliver cargo to the moon. , i. , the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and — the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and you _ the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and you can't _ the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and you can't quite _ the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and you can't quite make i the moon. sometimes you see those rockets and you can't quite make outj rockets and you can't quite make out what is going on. that rockets and you can't quite make out what is going om— what is going on. that is amazing. it is a what is going on. that is amazing. it is a simple _ what is going on. that is amazing. it is a simple looking _ what is going on. that is amazing. it is a simple looking thing, - what is going on. that is amazing. it is a simple looking thing, isn't i it is a simple looking thing, isn't it? quite mesmerising, really. clear skies. good skies offered to us by tomasz. good morning. the outside of the bbc in central london! ., ,~
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the outside of the bbc in central london! ., , ., london! no, red sky in the morning, sheherds london! no, red sky in the morning, shepherds warning. _ london! no, red sky in the morning, shepherds warning. a _ london! no, red sky in the morning, shepherds warning. a bit _ london! no, red sky in the morning, shepherds warning. a bit of - london! no, red sky in the morning, shepherds warning. a bit of an - shepherds warning. a bit of an exaggeration, the weather isn't looking too bad for most of us this morning. a lot of dry weather around but later, this evening and into tonight, the rain really will be very heavy indeed in some parts of the country, actually all of us will get rain and it's coming from this weather front which is approaching us, this is sort of an animation from the last 12 hours or so where you can see the weather front shrouding ireland and reaching western parts of the uk so yes, a dry morning, a little bit of sunshine and i dare say may nice weatherfor a time across sunshine and i dare say may nice weather for a time across eastern parts of england through the midlands but northern ireland gets the rain certainly by lunchtime and if we look at the middle of the afternoon, 3pm, a big difference between the west of the uk and further east. hulland between the west of the uk and further east. hull and newcastle could have sunshine. same as aberdeen. towards the west, the weather front sweeps in with stronger winds, weather front sweeps in with strongerwinds, heavy weather front sweeps in with stronger winds, heavy rain and not a
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pleasant pick if you don't like the rain. you may love that so you could go down to the promenade and get winter wet! go down to the promenade and get winterwet! it's go down to the promenade and get winter wet! it's sweeping across the country with really soggy on saturday night. turning clear in northern ireland than some north—western parts of the uk but towards the south, see that weird shape? the curl? but weather front, if you think of a skipping rope, it's an area of rain elongated and if you yank out, it's almost coming back again and if you look at the weather front you can see it sweeping it across the south of the uk so then the forecast for sunday shows the heavy rain across the southeast. eventually it will be clearing. also, some sunshine coming out. ., �* , clearing. also, some sunshine coming out. . �*, ., clearing. also, some sunshine coming out. ~ out. that's it. back to you. i like the idea of— out. that's it. back to you. i like the idea of sunshine _ out. that's it. back to you. i like the idea of sunshine coming i out. that's it. back to you. i like| the idea of sunshine coming out! thanks, tomasz. it's 7:17. the
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leader of reformed uk says his party is the third in politics after securing its best ever result in the two by—elections on thursday —— reform uk. we arejoined by ben khabib, very good morning to you. do you want to talk us through those two by election results, people will have seen the numbers by now —— ben habib. forthe labour have seen the numbers by now —— ben habib. for the labour party a lot of celebrations about their win but how do you calibrate what happened with your party? do you calibrate what happened with our -a ? ~ ., , do you calibrate what happened with oura 7. . ,. ,. your party? what is characteristic about these _ your party? what is characteristic about these two _ your party? what is characteristic about these two labour— your party? what is characteristic about these two labour wins i your party? what is characteristic about these two labour wins is i about these two labour wins is actually, labour didn't take any votes of the conservative party. the labour vote in these by—elections were similar to what they achieved in 2019 in the general election. what is really happened is the conservative vote, the small see conservative vote, the small see conservative vote, the small see conservative vote that voted for borisjohnson has either stayed at home or come out for reform uk and kingswood is a particularly telling
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by election because it was a seat in which we didn't expect to do well. it was quite a liberal democrat kind of area. we were expecting robert lowe, who stood, not to do as well as he did but to get 10% from a standing start in kingswood really tells you the conservative vote in this country is extremely disillusioned with the conservative party —— rupert lowe and in wellingborough of course i did slightly better than rupert and i got 13% of the vote. the entire swing of the conservative vote basically was to reform uk to the extent that they came out for reform uk. that's your analysis, and we speak as many people do, to professor sirjohn curtice looking at the very same thing you are talking about.— at the very same thing you are talking about. at the very same thing you are talkin: about. . . ., , ., talking about. what he said was for every voter — talking about. what he said was for every voter who — talking about. what he said was for every voter who switch _ talking about. what he said was for every voter who switch since - talking about. what he said was for every voter who switch since 2019 i every voter who switch since 2019 from conservative to labour there is another one who switched to reform
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uk. ~ �* , ., ., , , uk. well, it's not what the numbers su: est. if uk. well, it's not what the numbers suggest- if you _ uk. well, it's not what the numbers suggest. if you look _ uk. well, it's not what the numbers suggest. if you look at _ uk. well, it's not what the numbers suggest. if you look at the - uk. well, it's not what the numbers suggest. if you look at the vote... i suggest. if you look at the vote... i'm just making you aware of his analysis because he is as you know very widely respected. i’m analysis because he is as you know very widely respected.— very widely respected. i'm not dis-rutin very widely respected. i'm not disputing it- — very widely respected. i'm not disputing it. i'm _ very widely respected. i'm not disputing it. i'm not— very widely respected. i'm not disputing it. i'm not disputing| very widely respected. i'm not i disputing it. i'm not disputing his interpretation. i'm just saying the total number of votes taken by labour in wellingborough in a by—election, just over 13000 and they got just over by—election, just over 13000 and they gotjust over 13,000 in the general election albeit on a lower turnout this time. but the big swing undoubtably is towards reform uk. the conservative vote absolutely collapsed in wellingborough from 30,000 in 2019 down to just over 7000 in the by—election and reform uk of course stand in 2019 as we didn't exist but i got 4000 votes from a standing start. i have to say the recognition on the streets of reform uk has gone up dramatically. we are now firmly on the national map. a few months ago, we fought for
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tamworth and mid bedfordshire by—elections and got 5% in tamworth and slightly less in mid bedfordshire and with more than doubled that with kingswood as i say, we were expecting to do well, we merely travelled in wellingborough. —— nearly travelled it. as we make inroads into the british electoral landscape we're going to go on growing and come the election i think we will be a fantastic position. i election i think we will be a fantastic position.— election i think we will be a fantastic position. i was going to ask ou fantastic position. i was going to ask you that _ fantastic position. i was going to ask you that question _ fantastic position. i was going to ask you that question because i fantastic position. i was going to i ask you that question because when you look at — and you are right that people will have heard by now about your share, for example, people will have heard by now about yourshare, for example, in your share, for example, in wellingborough, yourshare, for example, in wellingborough, 13% — the reality is if it were to be replicated, and i don't know how many candidates reform uk will put up for the general election which is possibly only months away, it would not bring new mps in the house of commons. you sa that. new mps in the house of commons. you say that- the — new mps in the house of commons. gm, say that. the political sounds are sands are shifting dramatically and i think it's presumptuous to judge what the electorate may do at a general election but whether or not it gets our seats in this general
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election is frankly not the point. the point is reform uk offers a genuine small see conservative choice to the electorate around the country and we are in it for the long—term and we've shown we can make an impact, we've dramatically increased our votes in the last three years about the existence and every long march starts with a single step and we've done really well in wellingborough and wellingborough and i think we will do well in the general election and by the way we are going to stand 630 candidates across great britain so we're going to provide a genuine choice. this is not some kind of tactical, pressure group for the conservative party, some kind of centre—right group who wishes to pivot the debate. we are here to offer the directorate a long—term alternative to the broken two—party system. alternative to the broken two-party s stem. ., ~ alternative to the broken two-party s stem. ., ,, i. ., alternative to the broken two-party s stem. ., ,, ., . ., , system. ok, thank you for clarifying 'ust where system. ok, thank you for clarifying just where and _ system. ok, thank you for clarifying just where and how _ system. ok, thank you for clarifying just where and how you _ system. ok, thank you for clarifying just where and how you will- system. ok, thank you for clarifying just where and how you will be - just where and how you will be standing at the general election but can you clarify something else about nigel farage and reform uk? come the
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general election, whenever it may be, what will his job general election, whenever it may be, what will hisjob be? is it likely to change? people who don't know, can you establish what his role is at the moment?- role is at the moment? nigel is resident role is at the moment? nigel is president of — role is at the moment? nigel is president of the _ role is at the moment? nigel is president of the party. - role is at the moment? nigel is president of the party. he - role is at the moment? nigel is i president of the party. he doesn't have an executive or political role in it. his ideology and his disposition, i suspect, in it. his ideology and his disposition, isuspect, is in it. his ideology and his disposition, i suspect, is obviously pro— reform uk but nigel is his own man. he's had 20 years in politics, frontline politics. i think he is probably a bit tired of it, frankly, enjoying his life as a presenter and what nigel decides to do, frankly, is for nigel. you would have to ask nigel. is for nigel. you would have to ask niel. ., ,, .«r ., nigel. next time i get to speak to him i absolutely _ nigel. next time i get to speak to him i absolutely will. _ nigel. next time i get to speak to him i absolutely will. would - nigel. next time i get to speak to him i absolutely will. would you i him i absolutely will. would you like him to have a role in reform above and beyond the one he has now? all of the progress we've made has been without one like for nigel. all successful political movements have to be broad and deep —— have been
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without nigel. would love him on board and we would love lots of good people to join reform board and we would love lots of good people tojoin reform uk, as i'm sure they will as we make breathing inroads into the landscape, —— further. it is all about me or any individual in the party or nigel, it's about our agenda which is a low taxation deregulated, ditching net zero, cutting back immigration, traditional small c conservative values, putting the united kingdom first. we don't have a party that actually does it at the moment. the conservative party may proclaim to be conservative but it is not. it is together this country in my view into an existential threat with debt levels are post—world war ii hi, taxation... mr levels are post-world war ii hi, taxation- - -_ levels are post-world war ii hi, taxation... ~ ., ., , taxation... mr haboob, as always, when we invite _ taxation... mr haboob, as always, when we invite you _ taxation... mr haboob, as always, when we invite you on _ taxation... mr haboob, as always, when we invite you on and - taxation... mr haboob, as always, when we invite you on and we i taxation... mr haboob, as always, | when we invite you on and we have these discussions is better if you talk about your party rather than the other —— habib. crosstalk. i’m the other -- habib. crosstalk. i'm talkin: the other —— habib. crosstalk. t“n talking about the economic state in which the currently is currently... where we are, and it desperately
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needs to be changed and you're not going to change the way the country does economically. we will not become prosperous as we cut taxes and deregulate, dig net zero and cut back this immigration. it's absolutely critical that we do it and only reform uk offers it. all and only reform uk offers it. all rirht. and only reform uk offers it. all right- the _ and only reform uk offers it. all right. the labour _ and only reform uk offers it. all right. the labour party - and only reform uk offers it. all right. the labour party will- and only reform uk offers it. all. right. the labour party will borrow and send right. the labour party will borrow and spend even — right. the labour party will borrow and spend even more _ right. the labour party will borrow and spend even more than - right. the labour party will borrow and spend even more than the i and spend even more than the conservatives have and they will have even more immigration so... you are sa in: have even more immigration so... you are saying the — have even more immigration so... you are saying the same thing over and over again. are saying the same thing over and overagain. crosstalk. are saying the same thing over and over again. crosstalk. you very clearly made your case for reform uk. i clearly made your case for reform uk. ., ., ,_ clearly made your case for reform uk. ., ., clearly made your case for reform uk. i have to say you have to have a -a on uk. i have to say you have to have a party on the — uk. i have to say you have to have a party on the ticket _ uk. i have to say you have to have a party on the ticket which _ uk. i have to say you have to have a party on the ticket which offers i party on the ticket which offers something different. 0k. we are the something different. ok. we are the only difference on the ticket. we i only difference on the ticket. we appreciate your time. ben habib, the co— deputy leader of reform uk. 25 minutes past seven. in the last four years reports of romance fraud have risen by nearly 60% in england and wales. scammers often still rely photos to set up fake social media profile before forming relationships
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and convincing people to send them money. —— rely photos. the hannant has been talking to someone scanned out of thousands of pounds and the man whose picture was used to dupe her. it just kind of itjust kind of seduced me, even though my head was saying "this is a scam." , ., though my head was saying "this is a scam." , . though my head was saying "this is a scam." ,~ . , scam." they are so convinced they are engaged _ scam." they are so convinced they are engaged with _ scam." they are so convinced they are engaged with me, _ scam." they are so convinced they are engaged with me, whatever i i scam." they are so convinced they i are engaged with me, whatever i say when _ are engaged with me, whatever i say when they— are engaged with me, whatever i say when they write me, they attack me, i am when they write me, they attack me, i am the _ when they write me, they attack me, i am the fake guy. when they write me, they attack me, i am the fake guy-— i am the fake guy. mary and christian _ i am the fake guy. mary and christian have _ i am the fake guy. mary and christian have one _ i am the fake guy. mary and christian have one thing i i am the fake guy. mary and christian have one thing in i i am the fake guy. mary and - christian have one thing in common - christian have one thing in common — like they were both targeted by romance scammers. mary and her husband julian were together for 23 years. he died in 2020 and a couple of years later, she felt ready to get back into dating. a teacher and actorfrom get back into dating. a teacher and actor from sussex, get back into dating. a teacher and actorfrom sussex, she was approached on facebook by a man claiming to be a trauma surgeon called danny. claiming to be a trauma surgeon called danny-— claiming to be a trauma surgeon
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called dann . , . , , called danny. this man 'ust seemed to know exactly h called danny. this man 'ust seemed to know exactly what i called danny. this man just seemed to know exactly what to _ called danny. this man just seemed to know exactly what to say, - called danny. this man just seemed to know exactly what to say, to i called danny. this man just seemed| to know exactly what to say, to push the right buttons. and i was open, totally receptive. he just eluded me in to his... it was like a spiders web, like a moth to the flame. i was really missing that intimacy but not just the intimacy but the sharing and, you know, saying what i'd done in my day and all that kind of stuff. ., r' in my day and all that kind of stuff. . , ., ., , in my day and all that kind of stuff. , ., ., , ., stuff. he asked mary for money for medical research _ stuff. he asked mary for money for medical research and _ stuff. he asked mary for money for medical research and gift - stuff. he asked mary for money for medical research and gift cards i stuff. he asked mary for money for medical research and gift cards for| medical research and gift cards for his son. she sent him nearly £1000 before her bank intervened. there were lots of— before her bank intervened. there were lots of things _ before her bank intervened. there were lots of things that _ before her bank intervened. there were lots of things that made i before her bank intervened. tic- were lots of things that made me think "this is a bit weird" and one day he said here i am and i said where are you, it is so dark i cannot see anything and i couldn't quite make out if his lips were in sync with what i was hearing. he was lying all the time. i like my stepson because he said it sounds like this may be a scam. i said yeah, it might be. and he said he hasn't asked you for money, has he?
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and i said no, no, of course not. danny isn't the man in these pictures. this is christian. these are real images of him. he is a doctor and he is from denmark. scammers have been using these pictures for years and even photoshop him to make him look like he is in hospital. and with messages to try to convince people the relationship is real.- to try to convince people the relationship is real. every day, i'm reform importing _ relationship is real. every day, i'm reform importing new _ relationship is real. every day, i'm reform importing new profiles i relationship is real. every day, i'm reform importing new profiles and j relationship is real. every day, i'm i reform importing new profiles and it has been hard. but before reporting new profiles. i think i was going into a depression because i felt used, misused. ifelt degraded. couldn't get help from anywhere and i was also, i didn't want to tell people about it in the beginning. irate people about it in the beginning. we work with a company called scam analytics to disrupt fraudsters because that one profile or one image or most importantly lots of profiles created from the same ip
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address maybe being used across multiple websites. are you happy, ready to meet her?— multiple websites. are you happy, ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's bring — ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's bring her _ ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's bring her in. _ ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's bring her in. mary— ready to meet her? yes, of course. let's bring her in. mary thought i let's bring her in. mary thought she was in relationship with christian for months but now is the first time ever actually met. can you see him? we can see you! this ever actually met. can you see him? we can see you!— ever actually met. can you see him? we can see you!- hi, - ever actually met. can you see him? we can see you!- hi, mary! | we can see you! this is... hi, mary! you are there _ we can see you! this is... hi, mary! you are there in _ we can see you! this is... hi, mary! you are there in real— we can see you! this is... hi, mary! you are there in real life! _ we can see you! this is... hi, mary! you are there in real life! i'm - you are there in real life! i'm actually a _ you are there in real life! i'm actually a real— you are there in real life! i'm actually a real person. i'm so sorry to hear— actually a real person. i'm so sorry to hear about your story... i�*m actually a real person. i'm so sorry to hear about your story... i'm 'ust so sor to hear about your story. .. i'm 'ust so sorry for— to hear about your story... i'm 'ust so sorry for you �* to hear about your story... i'm 'ust so sorry for you that i to hear about your story... i'm 'ust so sorry for you that it's i to hear about your story... i'm 'ust so sorry for you that it's been i so sorry for you that it's been going on for ten years. i’m so sorry for you that it's been going on for ten years. i'm so leased going on for ten years. i'm so pleased to — going on for ten years. i'm so pleased to meet _ going on for ten years. i'm so pleased to meet you, - going on for ten years. i'm so pleased to meet you, mary. i going on for ten years. i'm so i pleased to meet you, mary. good to .et, pleased to meet you, mary. good to get, like. _ pleased to meet you, mary. good to get, like. a — pleased to meet you, mary. good to get, like, a realyou on pleased to meet you, mary. good to get, like, a real you on the screen as welt _ get, like, a realyou on the screen as well. ., �* , get, like, a realyou on the screen as well. . �* , , ., , get, like, a realyou on the screen as well. ., �* , , .,, ., as well. yeah, i'm very pleased to meet you. — as well. yeah, i'm very pleased to meet you, having _ as well. yeah, i'm very pleased to meet you, having seen _ as well. yeah, i'm very pleased to meet you, having seen your- as well. yeah, i'm very pleased to l meet you, having seen your picture, and that's what i've seen! poor man. it's unbelievable. tic and that's what i've seen! poor man. it's unbelievable.— it's unbelievable. 14 fake profiles rrretendin it's unbelievable. 14 fake profiles pretending to _ it's unbelievable. 14 fake profiles pretending to be _ it's unbelievable. 14 fake profiles pretending to be christian - it's unbelievable. 14 fake profiles pretending to be christian to i pretending to be christian to facebook�*s owner meta and within 24
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hours they removed the accounts. the most important thing for these victims is raising awareness of the crime, to prevent scammers from striking again. josie hannant, bbc news. we will return to our main story now. let's return to our main story now. president putin's most prominent critic has died in custody, according to russia's prison service. alexei navalny was an anti—corruption campaigner and had been russia's most significant opposition leader for the past decade. you can see the image of him there. navalny's spokeswoman said his team have yet to receive independent confirmation of the death and his lawyer is travelling to siberia. alexei navalny been in jail since 2021, on charges widely viewed as politically motivated and was last seen on a court video link — a day before he's reported to have died. news of his death has caused shock
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and outrage around the world. speaking at a conference in munich, his wife yulia said if the reports were true, vladimir putin would not go unpunished. translation: if it's true, iwould putin and his _ translation: if it's true, iwould putin and his whole _ translation: if it's true, iwould putin and his whole entourage, i translation: if it's true, iwould| putin and his whole entourage, his friends and his government to know that they will be held responsible for everything they have done to our country, to my family, and to my husband. and this day will come very soon. let's talk to chief international correspondent liz doucet. you are in munich this morning. i'm sure you will explain why, with the conference going on there. —— lyse. we must caveat this, because alexei navalny's family have said they are convinced or unsure of confirmation yet there has been international reaction, hasn't there, laced with much condemnation?—
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reaction, hasn't there, laced with much condemnation? good morning. histo is much condemnation? good morning. history is often _ much condemnation? good morning. history is often made _ much condemnation? good morning. history is often made here _ much condemnation? good morning. history is often made here in - history is often made here in munich, but nobody here at this premier security gathering expected a history like this. russia's relationship with the west was already one of the main topics on the agenda and suddenly when the news brokejust the agenda and suddenly when the news broke just before lunchtime here, when top diplomats, defence chiefs, presidents and prime ministers were pulling up in limousines behind us, the news came from the russian prison services that alexei navalny was dead. the news shot like a bolt of electricity down the road, inside this grant hotel bidons with the meetings are taking place. then there's meeting came. —— grand hotel behind us. one of the most important issues of our time — relations with russia, the war in ukraine, was told in a
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poignant, personal story when yulia navalny stunned delegates and took to the stage, such composure in a time of grief, speaking clearly about how she, like all the world leaders, holds that a bit responsible for his death. once the family is able to confirm it.- family is able to confirm it. lyse, there has also _ family is able to confirm it. lyse, there has also been _ family is able to confirm it. lyse, there has also been reaction i family is able to confirm it. lyse, | there has also been reaction from russia, descriptions of the international reaction from world leaders, as hysterical, for example. yes, the reaction from russia, from officials working with vladimir putin, some are even accusing the west of being responsible for alexei navalny's death, asking rhetorically the question — who benefits from his death? "it is the waste because they are using the issue to try to
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criticise russia, you know, isolate russia, perhaps predictable responses. ——it is the west. alexei navalny's lawyer is making his way to the harsh penal colony in the arctic circle. but here in munich, certainly this has completely changed the discussion and perhaps it is deep in the discussion about the world's relationship with russia. joining us here is alicia kearns, chair of the foreign affairs committee in the british parliament. welcome. ., , , welcome. you were here yesterday when the news _ welcome. you were here yesterday when the news came. _ welcome. you were here yesterday when the news came. you - welcome. you were here yesterday when the news came. you are - welcome. you were here yesterday| when the news came. you are right, it was— when the news came. you are right, it was a _ when the news came. you are right, it was a bolt— when the news came. you are right, it was a bolt of shock, and heartbreak. and the tenor of the debate _ heartbreak. and the tenor of the debate this year at the munich security— debate this year at the munich security conference, has been one of resolve _ security conference, has been one of resolve guide that we must stand by our ukrainian friends, who must be given— our ukrainian friends, who must be given enough notjust to our ukrainian friends, who must be given enough not just to survive, but when, — given enough not just to survive, but when, but that is hardened since the heartbreaking news, because we all the heartbreaking news, because we att know— the heartbreaking news, because we all know this was a murder. putin
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has tried — all know this was a murder. putin has tried to — all know this was a murder. putin has tried to murder navalny many times _ has tried to murder navalny many times the — has tried to murder navalny many times. the reason is to silence the dream _ times. the reason is to silence the dream of— times. the reason is to silence the dream of freedom that 70 russians have _ dream of freedom that 70 russians have. ., .., dream of freedom that 70 russians have. ., .. ., dream of freedom that 70 russians have. ., ., . ., , have. you were calling for sanctions before alexei _ have. you were calling for sanctions before alexei navalny _ have. you were calling for sanctions before alexei navalny died - have. you were calling for sanctions before alexei navalny died in - before alexei navalny died in prison, but there are so many sanctions against russia — are there more to impose? sanctions against russia - are there more to impose?— sanctions against russia - are there more to impose? resident bidon was clear that if you _ more to impose? resident bidon was clear that if you were _ more to impose? resident bidon was clear that if you were murdered - more to impose? resident bidon was clear that if you were murdered in i clear that if you were murdered in one of— clear that if you were murdered in one of these penal colonies, there would _ one of these penal colonies, there would be — one of these penal colonies, there would be repercussions. it is now up for us _ would be repercussions. it is now up for us to— would be repercussions. it is now up for us to do— would be repercussions. it is now up for us to do that. we need to seize this frozen— for us to do that. we need to seize this frozen assets and use them to pay for— this frozen assets and use them to pay for the — this frozen assets and use them to pay for the defence of ukraine and use them — pay for the defence of ukraine and use them to rebuild ukraine and we eventually— use them to rebuild ukraine and we eventually have their freedom. do ou eventually have their freedom. you think eventually have their freedom. dr? you think this changes the discussion here in any way? you already going to have, and you will have today. we have volodymyr zelensky, ukrainian president. he will be urging countries like britain, the united states, to keep supporting ukraine in its war against russia. are you worried? i
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against russia. are you worried? i am not, because europe has shown that we _ am not, because europe has shown that we are — am not, because europe has shown that we are behind our ukrainian friends — that we are behind our ukrainian friends 117 — that we are behind our ukrainian friends. 117 billion euros has been committed — friends. 117 billion euros has been committed from the uk and europe. the uk _ committed from the uk and europe. the uk has — committed from the uk and europe. the uk has it security agreement with ukraine, germany following and only yesterday. the people that need to be listening are the american republican sitting on the hole yesterday, hearing from yulia, and they need — yesterday, hearing from yulia, and they need to deliver on the year—long supplemental to give ukraine — year—long supplemental to give ukraine what it needs to survive but also to _ ukraine what it needs to survive but also to win — ukraine what it needs to survive but also to win. it sits with the us and i also to win. it sits with the us and i hope _ also to win. it sits with the us and i hope they— also to win. it sits with the us and i hope they are listening. n0 also to win. it sits with the us and i hope they are listening. no matter how much you _ i hope they are listening. no matter how much you have _ i hope they are listening. no matter how much you have increases - i hope they are listening. no matter. how much you have increases defence production and financial aid, the united states is the fulcrum of this effort, both inside nato and out. it will be hard without them taking a leadership role. it will be hard without them taking a leadership role.— leadership role. it will be and i was on the _ leadership role. it will be and i was on the fulcrum _ leadership role. it will be and i was on the fulcrum of- leadership role. it will be and i was on the fulcrum of this i leadership role. it will be and i i was on the fulcrum of this effort, both— was on the fulcrum of this effort, both inside — was on the fulcrum of this effort, both inside nato and out. it will be hard without them taking a leadership role. it will be and i was only— leadership role. it will be and i was only held three weeks threat of putin _ was only held three weeks threat of putin he _ was only held three weeks threat of putin. he lost the wagner network would _ putin. he lost the wagner network would spread horror over africa, europe, — would spread horror over africa, europe, for— would spread horror over africa, europe, for different confidence. he
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was responsible for attacks using novichok, — was responsible for attacks using novichok, to get his opponents, the satisbury— novichok, to get his opponents, the salisbury attack, and the invasion of ukraine — salisbury attack, and the invasion of ukraine. we have to be resolute and the _ of ukraine. we have to be resolute and the republicans need to help beat their biggest enemy without a single _ beat their biggest enemy without a single american lives lost. they keep— single american lives lost. they keep asking to see progress. ukraine doesn't _ keep asking to see progress. ukraine doesn't have the choices —— doesn't have _ doesn't have the choices —— doesn't have to _ doesn't have the choices —— doesn't have to show— doesn't have the choices —— doesn't have to show anything. estonia has one of— have to show anything. estonia has one of the — have to show anything. estonia has one of the biggest armies of the world i— one of the biggest armies of the world. i hope in that only public memory. — world. i hope in that only public memory, the us stands up and contributes. but memory, the us stands up and contributes.— memory, the us stands up and contributes. �* , . ., , ., , contributes. but impudence as it was dialorue. it contributes. but impudence as it was dialogue- it is _ contributes. but impudence as it was dialogue- it is a _ contributes. but impudence as it was dialogue. it is a lie. _ contributes. but impudence as it was dialogue. it is a lie. he _ contributes. but impudence as it was dialogue. it is a lie. he doesn't - dialogue. it is a lie. he doesn't want dialogue _ dialogue. it is a lie. he doesn't want dialogue because - dialogue. it is a lie. he doesn't i want dialogue because interlocutors have had _ want dialogue because interlocutors have had conversations with student at several _ have had conversations with student at several times. we have kept our embassy— at several times. we have kept our embassy open in russia. we need to see ukraine —
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embassy open in russia. we need to see ukraine living free, without rape. _ see ukraine living free, without rape, murder, torture, re— indoctrination, the kidnapping of children— indoctrination, the kidnapping of children - — indoctrination, the kidnapping of children — that is what we need to see _ children — that is what we need to see you — children — that is what we need to see you can— children — that is what we need to see. you can as the aggressor and that is— see. you can as the aggressor and that is why— see. you can as the aggressor and that is why when it is a lie. he doesn't — that is why when it is a lie. he doesn't want dialogue because interlocutors have had conversations with student at several times. we have _ with student at several times. we have kept— with student at several times. we have kept our embassy open in russia — have kept our embassy open in russia. we need to see ukraine iiving _ russia. we need to see ukraine iiving free, _ russia. we need to see ukraine living free, without rape, murder, torture. _ living free, without rape, murder, torture. re- — living free, without rape, murder, torture, re— indoctrination, the kidnapping _ torture, re— indoctrination, the kidnapping of children — that is what _ kidnapping of children — that is what we — kidnapping of children — that is what we need to see. you can as the aggressor— what we need to see. you can as the aggressor and that is why we need a special— aggressor and that is why we need a special tribunal on ukraine to come forward _ special tribunal on ukraine to come forward so — special tribunal on ukraine to come forward so that putin can be was stand _ forward so that putin can be was stand up— forward so that putin can be was stand up and say we need to end support— stand up and say we need to end support for— stand up and say we need to end support for ukraine. that stand up and say we need to end support for ukraine.— support for ukraine. that is the ri . ht support for ukraine. that is the right position. _ support for ukraine. that is the right position. they _ support for ukraine. that is the right position. they need - support for ukraine. that is the right position. they need to i support for ukraine. that is the | right position. they need to find the cuts right position. they need to find the guts and _ right position. they need to find the guts and recognise - right position. they need to find the guts and recognise their- the guts and recognise their responsibilities. the majority of republicans want to support ukraine. they are _ republicans want to support ukraine. they are unilateralist. they know that their — they are unilateralist. they know that their role in the world matters but their— that their role in the world matters but their speaker is choosing what matters _ but their speaker is choosing what matters for our freedom because using _ matters for our freedom because using ping — matters for our freedom because using ping and others are watching. alicia _ using ping and others are watching. alicia kearns, chair of the foreign
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affairs select committee. thank you johnny is on bbc news this morning on day two of the munich security conference. where we will hear chancellor scholz of germany in a short time and also volodymyr zelensky, who, after the death of navalny, was certainly have more warnings to the west about ukraine and the wider region. we will continue to bring you the latest but thatis continue to bring you the latest but that is all from us from munich for now. , , . that is all from us from munich for now. ,, . ., ~ that is all from us from munich for now. ,, . ., that is all from us from munich for now. ,, .g a that is all from us from munich for now. ,, .mg now. lyse doucet, thank you. as our international— now. lyse doucet, thank you. as our international chief _ now. lyse doucet, thank you. as our international chief - _ now. lyse doucet, thank you. as our international chief - chief _ international chief — chief international chief — chief international correspondent ben lewis three, there, at the munich security conference.— lewis three, there, at the munich security conference. were you taking us, security conference. were you taking us. chatham? _ security conference. were you taking us, chatham? is— security conference. were you taking us, chatham? is a _ security conference. were you taking us, chatham? is a big _ security conference. were you taking us, chatham? is a big game - security conference. were you taking us, chatham? is a big game coming l us, chatham? is a big game coming up? t us, chatham? is a big game coming u? ., is more to than a game. we had a big game _ is more to than a game. we had a big game last— is more to than a game. we had a big game last night. we get into the business — game last night. we get into the business end of the season in the super— business end of the season in the super league, manchester city against — super league, manchester city against chelsea. we know their manager— against chelsea. we know their manager is going to leave in the summer. — manager is going to leave in the summer, and want to leave on a high,
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ideally— summer, and want to leave on a high, ideally with— summer, and want to leave on a high, ideally with a — summer, and want to leave on a high, ideally with a quadruple of trophies. city haven't won for eight years. _ trophies. city haven't won for eight years. but— trophies. city haven't won for eight years, but they won last night. a years, but they won last night. spanner in the work for the ambitions of chelsea, with loads of people have been following, hoping, because they like the romance of the four trophies. you because they like the romance of the four trophies-— four trophies. you would also say that even with _ four trophies. you would also say that even with last _ four trophies. you would also say that even with last night - four trophies. you would also say that even with last night perfect i that even with last night perfect result, — that even with last night perfect result, they are the favourites, but they anotherjoint top of the table, only separated by goal difference. it is getting exciting and the women super— it is getting exciting and the women super league. as we said, chelsea is still confident they can win it all, but a _ still confident they can win it all, but a big — still confident they can win it all, but a big win for city who and chelsea's _ but a big win for city who and chelsea's 22 game unbeaten home run. jo curry was watching. league titles aren't won _ curry was watching. league titles aren't won and _ curry was watching. league titles aren't won and lost _ curry was watching. league titles aren't won and lost in _ curry was watching. league titles aren't won and lost in february, i curry was watching. league titles i aren't won and lost in february, but this match could take one of these sides a step closer. a blockbuster clash that had long been circled in the diary. chelsea had lost at home in 22 games, but it was the visitors who struck first. the simplest of falls to bunny sure, the other side
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of the bird to find the inside of the net. and that would silence the chelsea crowd. they then thought they had won a penalty when alex greenwood challenge from near to the box. the referee waved it away but the video show that a case. then there was this effortjust off target. after the break, both sides had chances but the goalkeepers were challenged rarely. close, but not close enough. in the dying seconds, chelsea desperately searched for an equaliser, but not for the first time this season. city's teenaged goalkeeper khiara keating saved the day. they are now equal on goal difference and points at the top of the table. relieved, delighted. so glad when
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the whistle went. unbelievable from the whistle went. unbelievable from the team. to come here and do that, against this team, it is unbelievable, i think. against this team, it is unbelievable, ithink. we against this team, it is unbelievable, i think. we showed two different sides. we played when we could, defended resiliently, but we remain humble now. a massive win but we stick together. go well into the international break, come back, eight games to go, come back and do it again. liitgr eight games to go, come back and do it arain. , . ., it again. city feeling confident now. it again. city feeling confident now- and _ it again. city feeling confident now. and sir _ it again. city feeling confident now. and sir chris _ it again. city feeling confident now. and sir chris hoy - it again. city feeling confident now. and sir chris hoy says i it again. city feeling confident| now. and sir chris hoy says he it again. city feeling confident i now. and sir chris hoy says he is receiving treatment for cancer after receiving treatment for cancer after receiving his diagnosis last year. he retired in 2013. sir chris now works as a pundit. he hasn't described the type of cancer and said he hoped to keep the information private but progressively is hand was forced in going public. the 47—year—old set of social media that his diagnosis came as a huge shock having had no
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symptoms and that he was optimistic, positive, and surrounded by love, for which he is truly grateful, and he is continuing to work, ride his bike, and live life as normal. —— 47—year—old said on social. intricate, it has been india's day so far in roger got in the third test, thanks to magnificent bowling. in them when it when momentum but were 290 45 at large. the big wicket of ben stokes year out for 41 thanks to ravinder ridge agent. that sparked a collapse of five wickets with just 20 runs. sparked a collapse of five wickets withjust 20 runs. then sparked a collapse of five wickets with just 20 runs. then we sparked a collapse of five wickets withjust 20 runs. then we had radeja helping to clean up the tail. living england out for 119. both sides are looking to take a 2—1 lead in the series. tiger woods has withdrawn from the genesis invitational in california due to illness. the 15 time major when i
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was taken off because shortly after teeing off on the seventh. it was his first appearance on the pga tour since the masters last april. meanwhile, rory mcilroy bounced back from his opening round 74, cutting more impressive 66, making it through the weekend, still off the leader who has a five shot lead. super league champions we can get under way shortly. sam burgess is the new warrington coach. —— super league champions wigan. last night leeds needed a late try to break the tie. they took it 22—16. st helens the broncos 44 44 ——4— four. the new netball super league season gets under way in the next few hours. all
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ten teams take to the court later. loughborough lightning are taking on surrey storm. the campaign will be the last in its current format as they prepare to relaunch as a professional league next year. taste professional league next year. we aren't a professional league next year. - aren't a sport that is underpinned by a cashrich male counterpart, so we have to make sure that we are building our commercials are self and we are financially sustainable for the future. our improvements, enhancements, innovations will be introduced incrementally. at the heart of everything we do is honestly our players and four metres about being able to pay them better more fairly. thanks, busy with lots of sport going on but of course it's the weekend so why wouldn't they be? it 745 and everyone has all of the weather details.— 745 and everyone has all of the weather details. ,., ., ., ~ , weather details. good morning. a bit of a mixed bag _ weather details. good morning. a bit of a mixed bag over _ weather details. good morning. a bit of a mixed bag over the _ weather details. good morning. a bit of a mixed bag over the next - weather details. good morning. a bit of a mixed bag over the next couple l of a mixed bag over the next couple of a mixed bag over the next couple of days. this morning is actually
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not looking too bad for most of us with these clouds thickening through the course of the morning into the afternoon and then i think on the evening, a lot of us are in for rain and really, it will be quite heavy. this weather front is approaching us right now so ahead of it, the skies are still clear or at least the clouds are pretty thin so we're not getting much rainfall at all but the weather front through the across ireland, reaching northern ireland here by settlement lunchtime or belfast, at least, in the western fringes of the rest of the uk and i think eastern areas here, anywhere from norwich to aberdeen, could have some glimmers of brightness really for most of the afternoon and really mild out there, talking about 14 degrees. all of the rain sweeping through during the course of this evening, saturday night and into the early hours of sunday. still raining in the south whereas here in the north, the winds fall light, not particularly cold, about nine degrees in the lowlands and 12 in the south of the country. this
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weather front will take time before it clears away from the southeast and will kind of drag its heels for and will kind of drag its heels for a little while. there is uncertainty exactly when the rain quickly from the southeast but the rest of the country i think we are waking up to sunshine from the morning onwards, the afternoon is looking great with temperatures about 13 in velcro —— belfast, 14 or 15 in the southeast of the country so really, a nice start to the day for many of us. especially after that really soggy night. especially after that really soggy nirht. ., �* , especially after that really soggy nirht. . �* , ., especially after that really soggy nirht. . �*, ., night. that's it. over to you. thanks, _ night. that's it. over to you. thanks, tomasz. _ night. that's it. over to you. thanks, tomasz. see - night. that's it. over to you. thanks, tomasz. see you i night. that's it. over to you. i thanks, tomasz. see you later. it is 13 minutes to eight. back with the headlines then. now on breakfast, it's time for newswatch. what's bbc news doing covering swifties and the super bowl? welcome to newswatch with me samira ahmed.
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coming up: she is the biggest celebrity in the world right now, but does taylor swift's presence at an american football game merit a place on bbc news? and could reporting on a potential shortage of tea encourage panic buying? last weekend saw the most watched television programme ever with an average 123 million viewers tuning in to the super bowl. but that was in the united states. were british news audiences interested in a sport hardly played outside america? not all of them, it turned out. preview coverage of the game started last friday and focused on the girlfriend of kansas city chiefs star travis kelce — one taylor swift. a report shown on bbc one's evening bulletins looked at her huge worldwide appeal and economic impact. the coverage continued over the weekend with on—air speculation about whether the singer would turn up to watch the game and about what the half—time
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entertainment acts would be. and the chiefs' dramatic win on sunday night featured on news bulletins and other bbc outlets the following day, leading jim rowan to e—mail: meanwhile, phil boyne sent us this video. hi, team. i'm a little surprised by the bbc news' fascination with taylor swift. and your need to mention her daily on the news programme or the app for flying somewhere or having a boyfriend or some other insignificant event. i recently noticed a story hidden on the website and barely covered on the news, if at all — i don't remember seeing it — about a lady who died under her coat waiting in a&e for over six hours with a brain aneurysm, which should surely be a major story and scandal. this sort of major issue seems to get ignored to cover an american multi—millionaire singer's life. there is so much going
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on in the world and at home that you could report on and it's disappointing that you choose to waste time covering a person that i'm sure the majority of your audience couldn't give a hoot about. my name's phil, i'm 61 and definitely not a swiftie. well, joining us on the newswatch sofa is richard burgess, who is director of news content for bbc news, and who'll be staying with us for most of the programme to discuss your feedback this week. thank you, as ever, for coming on newswatch. can you explain the volume of coverage compared to stories like the nhs death case that phil there mentioned? i think, as always with a news agenda, it's about a mix, so you need a mix of stories and, of course, we need to cover those really serious, important stories — which i think we have done really well this week with branwen jeffreys looking at the state of our school classrooms and the impact of pf! contracts, alison holt looking at issues around disability care and the nhs — but at the same time, we know that audiences welcome light relief.
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taylor swift is a major star, the super bowl is a major cultural and sporting event, and i think it's important that we cover it and give it — you know, show the interest in it that some of our audience have. you say it's a major cultural event but american football just isn't a major sport in this country and what viewers are asking is why should british news audiences be expected to care about it, given the volume of coverage that it got? look, audiences are split on sport, we know that. but this wasn't a sport that is a big sport in this country. no, us sport, probably there, people are even more split, i would imagine, on us sport. the super bowl — it has an amazing amount of money that it generates, there's all the interest around the people watching it, obviously, there was the taylor swift storyline. it even entered into us politics this year around the presidential race and some conspiracy theories regarding it. so, i think it's a broader story
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than just a sporting event but, of course, we know that some audiences are going to be less interested in it than others... particularly the celebrity angle on it — people feel that there's too much attention given to a big—name celebrity and it is at the expense of other, arguably more important, news. well, i don't think it is at the expense, samira. you know, i've mentioned some of the other big stories that we've covered this week and again, i think it's about the mix and i think it's about the balance of bulletins, the website, and we see that there is a lot of interest in these types of stories. we are going to look at another story now, so stay with us, richard. on tuesday, bbc one's early evening bulletin led with the news that would have caused shock and upset among many radio fans. at 6:00, steve wright, one of the bbc�*s best—known and longest serving presenters, has died at the age of 69. he presented programmes on radioi and radio 2 for more than 40 years. a short time ago, bbc�*s sara cox broke the news
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to radio two's audience. we are all absolutely devastated and shocked and blindsided by this news. paulinejordan had this reaction to the coverage. you are our news chap this week, richard. apparently! you know, it is the excess that bothers viewers, to be fair. we know steve wright was very important. it's the fact that there's so much coverage when there's not actually that many facts at that point, that's what bothers people.
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i think the coverage was more about the tributes to him and the shock at his death. and, you know, whichever way you look at it, steve wright was a majorfigure in radio for more than 40 years, and on our most popular radio stations. a pioneer. innovative in the way that he delivered radio in this country. loved by his listeners. incidentally, by far our most—read story this week on the website was about steve wright and his death, because i think it was a real shock to people. so, i think it was less about, you know, repeating facts — i'm not sure that is what we did. i think we reflected people's immense sadness at his death. you make a distinction, then, between paying tributes as a newsworthy thing but that viewer then mentioned the king's cancer diagnosis last week and the big issue that came up then was there were very few facts and bbc devoted a whole bulletin, essentially, just repeating the same sentences again and again instead of moving on and giving proper coverage to really important
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stories like gaza and ukraine. yeah, i mean, isaw the programme last week and, you know, i recognise there are viewers who were not happy with how we did that. i think it was because it was such a significant story and it had just broken — you know, it broke at 6 o'clock — so we felt we had to continue to update the story for people joining, so that they could hear this significant breaking news and by the time it was 10 o'clock, there was much more other news within the bulletin including some of those stories that you mentioned. do think there is a case now to reconsider where you draw the line between wanting to stick with a story that's just broken and acknowledging that viewers sometimes feel a bulletin is not there for rolling news, it's there for a number of stories? these are judgement calls and, you know, even within a newsroom, people have disagreements over these things and so, sometimes people think we should stick with things for longer and we need to continually update because it's a major breaking story and then, on other occasions, you know, there's the view that we need to give a more rounded
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picture of everything that's happened in the day. i think when it's such a big story and it'sjust broken, i do think there is such significant interest in it that we need to just be keeping viewers aware that this has happened and bringing them all the news that we have. stay with us — we have one more thing i want to talk to about, richard. another story reported by bbc news on tuesday also caught the attention of some of you. take a look at this. now, tetleys, one of the uk's best—known tea makers, says supplies of tea are tight and sainsbury�*s has also issued warnings about the availability of black tea. it's all down to the continued attacks in the red sea. well, katy austin is here now and just how tight are tea supplies, then? well, there's no need to worry — there should be enough tea in the shops — but i think it's fair to say there is some tonyjohnson, amongst other viewers, reached this conclusion. so, really, there isn't a shortage but by reporting the story, bbcjust would create panic buying, just like i think they did
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with toilet rolls during the covid pandemic and causing a problem when one doesn't actually exist. it's just irresponsible journalism. so, let's ask richard about this. there aren't really any shortages of tea, but there could've been, and if people had been panicked after watching that story and the question is wasn't it irresponsible to run that story that way? well, i think some of the major tea brands have warned about concerns about their supply lines. again, it's one of these judgement calls where you have to decide are you going to reflect the story and explain — which katy did straight away. she said there's no need to worry, so you're kind of calibrating a story that is already out there or do you just ignore it? and that's an editorial decision that you have to make. i think, on this occasion, we decided that, you know, this was on the front page of a newspaper that morning, we decided that it was the right thing to do to give the viewers the information, the correct information regarding this story.
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and we didn't hype it up. it was towards the end of the bulletin and i think katy was really clear about what the reality was. yeah, i suppose anyone would argue that tea, unlike american football, is not a british issue but there is this whole dilemma, isn't there, about what point you pick up on a story from a newspaper because the bbc announcing something amplifies it in a way that a paper isn't the same, is it? yeah and, look, there are stories in the newspapers every day that we look at and we don't do because we think either it's not significant enough or it hasn't been properly stood up. but on this occasion, yeah, i mean, you know, a cup of tea is obviously of huge interest to many in our audience and we just felt this was a story that was worth us trying to put the lens on and explain the facts as far as we knew them. richard burgess, thank you for being the bbc chap on the sofa this week. thank you. thank you for all your comments this week. if you want to share your opinions
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about what you see or hear on bbc news on tv, radio, online, and social media, e—mail. or you can find us on x, formerly known as twitter. you can call us. aand do have a look at previous interviews on our website. that's all from us for now. thank you forjoining us. do think about getting in touch and perhaps even coming on the programme. we'll be back to hear more of your thoughts about how the bbc covers the news next week. goodbye. good morning. welcome to breakfast with naga munchetty and charlie stayt. our headlines today:
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international outrage follows the announcement that russian opposition leader alexei navalny has died. his supporters gather in russia to pay tribute, while western leaders warn vladimir putin he will face the consequences. vladimir putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. donald trump is ordered to pay nearly £300 million by a new york judge in a fraud case relating to his business empire. how one former sub—postmaster�*s battle for compensation highlights the problems still facing many of those affected by the post office computer scandal. good morning. sir chris hoy says he's being treated for cancer. the six—time olympic cycling champion says he's "optimistic, positive and surrounded by love". it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. the clouds are thickening and umbrellas at the ready for this evening.
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good morning. it's saturday, february 17th. the reported death of president putin's most prominent critic, has sparked international outrage and prompted vigils to take place around the world. western leaders have called for an independent investigation into the death of alexei navalny, who has been imprisoned since 2021, on charges widely considered to be politically motivated. the kremlin has dismissed the international reaction as "hysterical" and "unacceptable." our eastern europe correspondent sarah rainsford reports. alexei navalny was a man who dared to speak out in a country where dissent is dangerous. as news of the opposition activist�*s death spread, russians gathered to remember him. no mass protest or public fury, just silent tribute at monuments to victims of public repression.
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there were shouts of "shame" as this man was dragged off by police. but mostly people seemed stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone. my first reaction was, like, it'sjust a joke. but the news came more and more and more. and i was crying for one hour. i was with my fronts, and i was broken. i really thought that it couldn't happen. —— friends. for alexei navalny's wife, this news had long been feared. translation: if it is true, i want vladimir putin, his entourage, his friends and government to know that they will be held responsible. alexei navalny knew his politics put him in the firing line. his campaign against corruption
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could really big crowds. he denounced vladimir putin and his team as "crooks and thieves". arresting him became almost routine. then three years ago navalny fell desperately ill on a plane. tests in germany revealed he had been poisoned with the novichok. when he recovered he returned to russia and was sent to prison. the criminal charges started to pile up to keep him there. navalny had been in courtjust a day before his death, appearing by video link from prison. has a persistent chair was in itself an act of resistance. there was no obvious sign of any sickness, but the business service say he was out working the next day when he collapsed and died suddenly. he was out working the next day for vladimir putin, it was just another day. he spent it meeting factory workers with lots of smiles and no mention of navalny.
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but beyond russia borders there was condemnation. make no mistake — putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. what has happened to navalny is yet more proof of putin's brutality. no—one should be fooled, not in russia, not at home, not anywhere in the world. journalists used to ask navalny constantly if he was afraid for his life and he would brush the question off. then, two years ago, he was asked for his message to supporters, if he was killed. for the situation when i am killed, it is very simple — not give up. without navalny, though, the future for all russians who hoped for change, has never looked bleaker. it is saturday morning. this is a
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ruling from a us courthouse. former us president, donald trump has been ordered to pay $354 million — that's the equivalent of around £280 million, for inflating the value of his assets to secure cheaper loans and insurance. he's also been banned from running a company in new york for three years. our reporter will vernon has more. skyscrapers in new york. a beachfront estate in florida. donald trump's property portfolio looks impressive, but how much is it all really worth? ajudge has ruled not as much as mr trump said it was. he must now pay a huge sum and will be banned from doing business in new york for three years. the former president reacted to the ruling with fury, and said he would appeal. it all comes down to biden — his witch—hunt against his political opponent, the likes of which our
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country has never seen before. you see it in third world countries, banana republics, but you don't see it here. mr trump has called the prosecutor in the case corrupt and racist. we are holding him accountable for lying, cheating, and a lack of contrition, and for flouting the rules that all of us must play by. because there cannot be different rules for different people in this country — and former presidents are no exception. donald trump's wallet was already feeling lighter after last month when he was ordered to pay more than £60 million to writer e jean carroll for defaming her. and he still faces dozens of charges in four other cases, including for alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. we will see you on the trail! mr trump is hoping his legal troubles don't harm his chances
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at the ballot box. so far, they only seem to have made him stronger. will vernon, bbc news, washington. rishi sunak has urged what he calls the "conservative family" to come together in the wake of the party's defeats in thursday's by elections. let's speak now to our political correspondent charlotte wright. they were devastating by—elections for the conservatives and we know there have been factions emerging in recent weeks, with various conferences.— recent weeks, with various conferences. , , ., conferences. yes, his message to the -a toda conferences. yes, his message to the party today is — conferences. yes, his message to the party today is a _ conferences. yes, his message to the party today is a stick _ conferences. yes, his message to the party today is a stick with _ conferences. yes, his message to the party today is a stick with me, - party today is a stick with me, stick with my plan. but you are right, conservative mps will be feeling pretty despondent this morning about those two by—election losses yesterday. they were big wins for labour, who took both the seeds of the conservatives. but there is another party they are worried about. reform uk, the format brexit party, who came third in both of these by—elections, and they got the honorary president of nigel farage, and there has been concern among
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many conservative mps for some time that reform might dent their chances at an election and this is the first time we have seen that happen in practice. it has prompted some conservative mps to come out and say we should be changing our policies, we should be changing our policies, we should be toughening up on things like immigration, we should be reducing tax. basically to try to wind back these former supporters that they feel have gone to reform uk. pretty sunak wrote in the telegraph today, if you want these things, stick with me. stick with my plan. he is calling for the conservative family to come together and that is a direct message, not only do conservative supporters, but to his own mps who might be swayed by reform uk. i don't think there is any imminent threat to his leadership at the moment. the mood among mps seems to be that it is too close to an election at the moment to launch any sort of leadership challenge, so he is safe for now. but he does have a lot of work to do to lift the mood in his party and
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convince his mps that he can lead them into the next general election. charlotte for the moment, thank you. police in bristol have launched a new operation to tackle youth knife crime, following several fatal stabbings in recent weeks. 16—year—old darrien williams has been named as the latest victim — he died on wednesday evening. two boys, both aged 15, have been arrested on suspicion of murder and remain in police custody. a senior inspector has warned that "deteriorating mental health" and "boredom" among asylum seekers housed at a former military base in essex, could lead to violent disorder. the home office says it takes the safety and welfare of asylum seekers extremely seriously and disputes the findings. ukrainian troops have withdrawn from the eastern town of avdiika, due to a shortage of weapons and ammunition. the area which is on the front line of the war with russia is now almost completely destroyed.
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we can speak now to our correspondent andrew harding. andrew, how significant is this withdrawal? in terms of geography and strategy thatis in terms of geography and strategy that is being employed by ukraine in its war with russia. good morning. this is a significant victory for the kremlin, it must be admitted. they have spent months now and sacrificed thousands, perhaps tens of thousands of men, in a bludgeoning, brutal campaign to seize this one small town, here in the donbas. they have taken it after the donbas. they have taken it after the ukrainians were surrounded and pulled out. so ukraine did not get entirely cut off and lose lots of men, although some soldiers said it was chaotic at times. strategically, the town itself is in ruins so it means little for russia to have captured it, but it does mean they are closer to other more important towns and it will give president
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putin and his supporters something to claim as a success, because frankly in the last six months russia has had no wins. it has always been ukrainian troops trying to push forwards. now it looks like the tide has turned the other way, turning in the favour of russia, and a lot of ukrainian troops told us they are running out of weapons. that's a big problem on the front line. they are appealing to the west for more help, or they say they will lose the war. for more help, or they say they will lose the war-— for more help, or they say they will lose the war. andrew, yesterday we talked about — lose the war. andrew, yesterday we talked about the _ lose the war. andrew, yesterday we talked about the weather _ lose the war. andrew, yesterday we | talked about the weather conditions. i can see the cold air as you are talking to me. the sense of morale and that plea to the west, ijust wonder what the next steps are, and what we should expect to hear from the west, which has shown at least verbal support, as well as some military and munitions support. morale is clearly an issue. it is hard tojudge. it is bitterly, bitterly cold, and fighting in
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trenches, the ukrainians are exhausted after two years of fighting. but they are not about to give up and they are still very much confident that they will carry on the fight, and that russia is not going to score any quick victories here. �* ., ., ., ,, here. andrew, for the moment, thank ou. you. andrew harding in eastern ukraine. 8:12am. another story for you. we saw earlier the launch of a us rocket in a nasa trip to the moon. now a japanese agency is hoping to do the same. after years of delays and two failed attempts, this is the moment the h3 successfully blasted off from its launch pad just after midnight in the uk. it's the country's flagship rocket and could be used in the future to deliver cargo to the moon.
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it is extraordinary when you look at those images to think of those two rockets both heading for the same place. it is such an odd thought, after so long when there's been so little activity, and now suddenly there is this impetus. i'm not sure, is it 2030 they are talking about potentially having a human being on the moon again? that of course is the moon again? that of course is the thing that everyone finds captures the imagination, even if it is not the most important scientific moment. should we get excited about the weather? here's tomasz schafernaker with a look at this morning's weather. you said to get our umbrellas ready for later. yes, later on. for some for later. yes, later on. forsome of for later. yes, later on. for some of us it will be earlier on today, lunchtime in northern ireland, but for most of us much later on. it may not be clear, blue skies. the
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clouds are thickening and a weather front is waiting in the wings. this is the satellite picture from the last 6—12 hours. there's cloud is starting to reach i other parts of the country. elsewhere we could have some sunshine through the morning. this is the middle of the afternoon. reining in the south—west of england, around western fringes of wales, the irish sea, northern ireland shrouded in the rain, and the western isles pretty soggy. in the western isles pretty soggy. in the east it is still dry and very mild, 14 celsius for many of us. then the rain sweeps across the country. it is a wet saturday night. it is going to stay wet pretty much all through the night if you live in the south of the country. in scotland it is going to turn clearer. there will be some showers blowing through as well. so, here is the forecast for tomorrow. tomorrow will be a soggy start to the day for many of us, particularly in the
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south and south—east. here it is early in the morning, you will need your raincoats. the rest of the country further north and west, looking absolutely fine. the thinking is by the time we get to the afternoon on sunday, the sun will be out. look at these springlike temperatures. 13-15 c. back springlike temperatures. 13—15 c. back to you. thomas, thank you. many sub postmasters who were wrongly accused of theft and fraud are still fighting for compensation despite the scandal now being recognised as one of the biggest miscarriages ofjustice in uk history. the cases taking the longest to solve involve the victims who were forced to declare bankruptcy in order to pay back their losses. our business correspondent, emma simpson has more. tony downey is finally heading back to his old home in the lake district. it has taken him 15 years to have the courage to return. tony fled abroad when the post office ruined him. we lost everything. we lost our business,
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we lost our home, i lost my health. wejust up and ran. we didn't even say goodbye. we were too embarassed. wejust ran. tony bought the hawkshead post office in 2001. he said it was buzzing and a dream come true. it's a childcare centre now. what's it like to be back? overwhelming, to be honest. a lot of emotions after 15 years of not coming back here. here it is, your old business. very bleak. angry that, you know, this should have been ours — our business. and now, i live in spain in a rented apartment with no career, you know, no money, no pension, no nothing. tony had £35,000 of shortfalls at his branch. he and his wife used their savings and credit cards to balance the books when another £7,000 of losses appeared. they couldn't pay any more. tony resigned and sold up, advised
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to go bankrupt two months later. my health started to decline. i got headaches, stress, anxiety, social anxiety, and it got a lot worse than that. i didn't realise how bad it was until we got the medical records, you know? i was suicidal. tony, hi! he's still nervous about who he may meet here, but not diane. it has been a while, hasn't it? sorry, it's such a bad thing to have to do. she bought the post office from him and guess what? she had shortfalls, too. yeah, it's difficult, isn't it? horrible, honestly. i swore i'd never step foot in hawkshead again. it was tony who encouraged her to claim for compensation. i've been on antidepressants ever since all this ever started. we had several audits. each time, they were demanding money. the last one that we have said, "right, you either pay £1200 "now or you're going to be prosecuted" and you think, "oh, crikey!" you know, "i'm going to be led out
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of here in handcuffs!" this isn't — this is awful. well, we had £3000 and they literally made my wife go to the bank and she went up to my friends there to borrow money and we had to pay it by 4:30. i thought it was me, you thought it was you. i thought it was me. and it wasn't. it was the computer system. and the same post office. same post office. here's the thing. the post office has accepted that horizon was to blame for tony's losses at his branch, but they won't admit causing his bankruptcy. so far, he's ended up with just £10,000 worth of damages, far less than he's owed. the rest of the £140,000 worth of compensation has gone straight to the official receiver to pay off his bankruptcy debts. it's an insult. at the moment, they're not even close to putting me back to where i would've been but they have to admit the causation before they'll do that.
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you know, in my opinion, is that a reason why they're not? because then it opens the floodgates to, you know, a proper claim? in a statement, the post office said... tony is doing that. his legal team are dealing with most of the bankruptcy cases. the enemy is time. the fear and worry that we have is that people are left in a situation where they've got to throw the towel in because time is running out and they want some sort of resolution and some sort of access to money, but the risk there is that they don't get the right level of compensation. he believes tony's got
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a very strong case. just how long it will take to unravel? but at least tony's still young enough to keep fighting. emma simpson, bbc news, hawkshead. we're joined now byjournalist nick wallis who's written the book 'the great post office scandal�* alongside former sub postmistress wendy buffery. good morning. just so people understand, i always think it is worth it, can you explain what happened to you?— worth it, can you explain what happened to you? worth it, can you explain what ha ened to ou? , ., happened to you? yes. i took on the ost office happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in — happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in 98. _ happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in 98. it _ happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in 98. it was _ happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in 98. it was fine - happened to you? yes. i took on the post office in 98. it was fine until i post office in 98. it was fine until 2008. i had had a couple of losses, but nothing huge, other than one £8,000 one. i had a huge amount of
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stamps appear on my computer screen. i did everything i was supposed to do to remove those, and it doubled the loss from £9,000 up to £18,000. are those alerts? no, physical books of 100 stamps. 700 appeared on my screen from nowhere and i had not got them in the post office because they had not been delivered. i have not got them. when i tried to take them out again, it went up to £36,000. and that's when i thought, ijust haven't £36,000. and that's when i thought, i just haven't got that £36,000. and that's when i thought, ijust haven't got that money. i don't know what to do. i rolled over without saying anything as if i had that money. without saying anything as if i had that money-— without saying anything as if i had that money. sorry, do you want to exlain that money. sorry, do you want to explain that _ that money. sorry, do you want to explain that phrase? _ that money. sorry, do you want to explain that phrase? rolled - that money. sorry, do you want to explain that phrase? rolled over, | explain that phrase? rolled over, when i did explain that phrase? rolled over, when i did my _ explain that phrase? rolled over, when i did my end _ explain that phrase? rolled over, when i did my end of— explain that phrase? rolled over,
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when i did my end of month i explain that phrase? rolled over, i when i did my end of month balance it said i was £36,000 short so i didn't have that money. i knew that the post office would want that money, so i did the wrong thing and i actually said i had got it, and that was the beginning of the end for me. i have since found out that, had i actually told them that it had gone, i would still be in the same position. gone, i would still be in the same osition. , ., position. yes, i now find it interesting _ position. yes, i now find it interesting you _ position. yes, i now find it interesting you say - position. yes, i now find it interesting you say you i position. yes, i now find it} interesting you say you did position. yes, i now find it - interesting you say you did the wrong thing because what we know now is that you were not in the wrong. fix, is that you were not in the wrong. a ghost discrepancy suddenly appears out of _ ghost discrepancy suddenly appears out of nowhere and she was held liable _ out of nowhere and she was held liable for— out of nowhere and she was held liable for £36,000, it is insane. it is one _ liable for £36,000, it is insane. it is one of— liable for £36,000, it is insane. it is one of the — liable for £36,000, it is insane. it is one of the most cut and dried cases _ is one of the most out and dried cases. ~ , ,., y is one of the most out and dried cases. ~ ,,., , ., cases. absolutely, and the consequence _ cases. absolutely, and the consequence of _ cases. absolutely, and the consequence of that - cases. absolutely, and the consequence of that in - cases. absolutely, and the i consequence of that in terms cases. absolutely, and the - consequence of that in terms of... i had just over 18 months to wait without hearing anything. nothing at all. then i got a letter through the
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post, along with my husband, a special delivery letter, that had a proceeds of crime order in there and they froze everything. we could not do anything. four orfive they froze everything. we could not do anything. four or five weeks after that, do anything. four or five weeks afterthat, i do anything. four or five weeks after that, i had a summons to court and i ended up with 150 hours community service and a fine. and my life being turned upside down. how is our life life being turned upside down. how is your life now? _ life being turned upside down. how is your life now? it _ life being turned upside down. how is your life now? it is _ life being turned upside down. how is your life now? it is better - life being turned upside down. how is your life now? it is better than i is your life now? it is better than it was. is your life now? it is better than it was but _ is your life now? it is better than it was. but nothing, _ is your life now? it is better than i it was. but nothing, compensation, heartfelt thanks, which they have never managed, or apologies, they have never managed that. you can't stop what they have done to you. it still makes me ill, it still is there every minute of the day. this
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devastation. _ there every minute of the day. this devastation, nick, that we have heard from you, wendy, and that we have heard from so many sub—postmasters, this won't leave. no. sub-postmasters, this won't leave. no. , , _ sub-postmasters, this won't leave. no. , , ,, ., ~' sub-postmasters, this won't leave. no. , , _ ., ,, ., no. this is indelibly marked. you heard about _ no. this is indelibly marked. you heard about this _ no. this is indelibly marked. you heard about this first _ no. this is indelibly marked. you heard about this first when - no. this is indelibly marked. you heard about this first when you i no. this is indelibly marked. you i heard about this first when you are presenting a breakfast show for the bbc. , i presenting a breakfast show for the bbc- i think— presenting a breakfast show for the bbc. yes. i think there was one conversation _ bbc. yes. i think there was one conversation you _ bbc. yes. i think there was one conversation you had, - bbc. yes. i think there was one conversation you had, and then it ramped up and that piqued your interest and made you more determined to look into it. this was going on for 13 years.— going on for 13 years. yes, i first soke to going on for 13 years. yes, i first spoke to defender _ going on for 13 years. yes, i first spoke to defender when - going on for 13 years. yes, i first spoke to defender when his - going on for 13 years. yes, i first spoke to defender when his wife | going on for 13 years. yes, i first - spoke to defender when his wife had 'ust spoke to defender when his wife had just been— spoke to defender when his wife had just been sentence and was in prison. — just been sentence and was in prison, and he said she was put in prison— prison, and he said she was put in prison for— prison, and he said she was put in prison for a — prison, and he said she was put in prison for a crime she did not commit _ prison for a crime she did not commit. bbc breakfast has been brilliant — commit. bbc breakfast has been brilliant in following this story. long. — brilliant in following this story. long. and _ brilliant in following this story. long, and it has been this extraordinaryjourney long, and it has been this extraordinary journey over so long, and it has been this extraordinaryjourney over so many years _ extraordinaryjourney over so many years alan — extraordinaryjourney over so many years. alan bates was fighting his
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ejection _ years. alan bates was fighting his ejection from the post office in 2003. — ejection from the post office in 2003, and it took 16 years before anyone _ 2003, and it took 16 years before anyone in— 2003, and it took 16 years before anyone in authority, a high court judge _ anyone in authority, a high court judge finally turned around and said this is— judge finally turned around and said this is a _ judge finally turned around and said this is a serious issue. wendy got her conviction quashed three years a-o her conviction quashed three years ago and _ her conviction quashed three years ago and she is still waiting for her full and _ ago and she is still waiting for her full and final compensation to actually— full and final compensation to actually land. i rememberat the time _ actually land. i rememberat the time when — actually land. i rememberat the time when wendy was interviewed just as she _ time when wendy was interviewed just as she came out of the courtroom, a bit emotional— as she came out of the courtroom, a bit emotional and in floods of tears. — bit emotional and in floods of tears, and the one thing she said is it is the _ tears, and the one thing she said is it is the time, you can't get the time _ it is the time, you can't get the time back _ it is the time, you can't get the time back. it doesn't matter how much _ time back. it doesn't matter how much money you get, or the fact that you get— much money you get, or the fact that you get your— much money you get, or the fact that you get your name cleared, lives have _ you get your name cleared, lives have been— you get your name cleared, lives have been ruined and there is no way back from _ have been ruined and there is no way back from that. that's the most extraordinaire thing about this scandal — extraordinaire thing about this scandal. the years that it took, and the fact _ scandal. the years that it took, and the fact that — scandal. the years that it took, and the fact that government, which owns the fact that government, which owns the post— the fact that government, which owns the post office, fought for so long to deny— the post office, fought for so long to deny these sub—postmasters justice. — to deny these sub—postmasters justice, and that makes it such a bil justice, and that makes it such a big scandal. wendy on a couple of occasions big scandal. — wendy on a couple of occasions we have had the privilege of talking to people like yourself at the heart of this, and a couple of thoughts always occurring to me and as you expect a moment ago, you started to
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explain the mechanics of what happened, and you can do that clearly and go through it, and then the other part of it is the emotional damage. that is clearly, even sitting with you now, i can tell how hard that is to explain, butjust tell how hard that is to explain, but just to still say out tell how hard that is to explain, butjust to still say out loud. hopefully now, because of the work thatjournalists like nick have done, you feel emboldened to be honest about those things, to say how it has failed. it is honest about those things, to say how it has failed.— how it has failed. it is the fear. it is the not — how it has failed. it is the fear. it is the not sleeping. - how it has failed. it is the fear. it is the not sleeping. you - how it has failed. it is the fear. it is the not sleeping. you just| it is the not sleeping. you just cannot explain to somebody that has not been through it. you know, it is not been through it. you know, it is notjust me. everybody 's family go through it as well. my close family have been so supportive, but you always feel as though you have let them down, even though you haven't done anything. because you have
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altered their lives. you know? because i made the decision with my husband to buy a post office, it altered our lives. instead of being something that could take us through to retirement. i loved doing the job, i really loved it. and it has gone. it isjust job, i really loved it. and it has gone. it is just not there. and when you are found guilty of doing something that you didn't do, it completely, something inside you dies and it never comes back. what completely, something inside you dies and it never comes back. what i think it's remarkable, _ dies and it never comes back. what i think it's remarkable, because - dies and it never comes back. what i think it's remarkable, because nick i think it's remarkable, because nick you are now embarking on a tour next month to tell the story, and we were chatting before and wendy didn't you say, if someone asked you, you would talk about it because you are
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willing to talk about it. wendy is a com ellin: willing to talk about it. wendy is a compelling talker— willing to talk about it. wendy is a compelling talker and _ willing to talk about it. wendy is a compelling talker and i _ willing to talk about it. wendy is a compelling talker and i have - willing to talk about it. wendy is a compelling talker and i have been | willing to talk about it. wendy is a l compelling talker and i have been in a room _ compelling talker and i have been in a room before where she told her story— a room before where she told her story to _ a room before where she told her story to an— a room before where she told her story to an audience who were hanging — story to an audience who were hanging off her every word. i want to be _ hanging off her every word. i want to be able — hanging off her every word. i want to be able to go out on stage and .ive to be able to go out on stage and give context to this scandal. the drama _ give context to this scandal. the drama can't cover everything. and talk about— drama can't cover everything. and talk about the facets and also bring people _ talk about the facets and also bring people up—to—date, because i will be on tour— people up—to—date, because i will be on tour while the public inquiry restarts. — on tour while the public inquiry restarts, but it is hearing from someone _ restarts, but it is hearing from someone like wendy, who canjust say this happened to me, and this is why it is important, and that really affects — it is important, and that really affects audiences. because of this scandal— affects audiences. because of this scandal happened to so many people, everywhere _ scandal happened to so many people, everywhere i go around the country i've everywhere i go around the country t've been— everywhere i go around the country i've been able to find a sub—postmaster who is local to the area, _ sub—postmaster who is local to the area. and _ sub—postmaster who is local to the area. and he — sub—postmaster who is local to the area, and he will come on stage and talk about— area, and he will come on stage and talk about their experience. but wendy— talk about their experience. but wendy said if you don't fill any gaps in the schedule, i'll be there and i_ gaps in the schedule, i'll be there and i am — gaps in the schedule, i'll be there and i am grateful to wendy. obviously, news organisations have been covering the public inquiry and we have seen various people give evidence from both sides. l we have seen various people give evidence from both sides.- evidence from both sides. i have seen lots of _ evidence from both sides. i have seen lots of people _ evidence from both sides. i have seen lots of people be _ evidence from both sides. i have seen lots of people be very, - evidence from both sides. i have| seen lots of people be very, very
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forgetful. ijust don't understand how people can come and give evidence and stand there and say i don't know, i can't remember, i don't know, i can't remember, i don't recall, i don't know. especially when it is something that affects the fact that they might be brought before a court. everything else all of a sudden they can remember straightaway. i find that difficult. if they have gone in their and difficult. if they have gone in theirand said, i'm difficult. if they have gone in their and said, i'm going to tell their and said, i'm going to tell the truth, and then not say anything because it might get them into trouble, it's... iwish because it might get them into trouble, it's... i wish the inquiry had more teeth. i wish it could actually compel people to tell the truth, ratherthanjust actually compel people to tell the truth, rather than just say, i actually compel people to tell the truth, rather thanjust say, i don't remember. d0 truth, rather than 'ust say, i don't remember.— truth, rather than 'ust say, i don't remember. , ., , ~ , ., remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense--- — remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense--- i— remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense... i notice, _ remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense... i notice, and _ remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense... i notice, and nick, - remember. do you still, wendy, have a sense... i notice, and nick, i- a sense... i notice, and nick, i know you have spoken to wendy may times before, but as i am listening to wendy, and thinking it is quite
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often i feel like i have heard you blame yourself, even now. even given what we know. you are blaming yourself a moment ago for embarking on buying a post office and running a post office in the first place. that feels like a burden on top of a burden. you are still questioning decisions you made, for which there is no blame attached. ihla. decisions you made, for which there is no blame attached.— is no blame attached. no, i know. when something _ is no blame attached. no, i know. when something like _ is no blame attached. no, i know. when something like this - is no blame attached. no, i know. j when something like this happens is no blame attached. no, i know. i when something like this happens to you, itjust changes your outlook on everything. it really does. you know, and you just think, well, if i hadn't bought the post office, this would not have happened. if i hadn't what the post office, that wouldn't have happened. it isjust ongoing. and it becomes a chap because wendy
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has spoken about this and the legal action hanging over her, and the sense of not trusting herself because she didn't understand where this deficit had come from, and i've spoken to many supposed masses about this and they start today to doubt their own minds. it becomes a spiral of darting your own sanity in capability and that becomes really pernicious when you become trapped inside your mental health. just on the tour, the reaction you had when you're talking to people, it's quite remarkable, when they say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the — say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the backroom _ say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the backroom of— say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the backroom of a _ say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the backroom of a pub - say, i have my health. absolutely, i was on the backroom of a pub in - was on the backroom of a pub in liverpool a couple of weeks ago, i just started doing these talks because i can get a distribution in the book because it's a tiny publisher, i said the book because it's a tiny publisher, isaid i the book because it's a tiny publisher, i said i would take it into as many communities as i can, i took it into a back room in liverpool, three supposed masses in the area had come to listen i didn't realise they were in the audience,
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and this woman was so outraged, she said, what can we do? how can we help? i wasn't prepared for the question at all. i thought i would tell the story and off i go, and a sub—postmaster in the audience said, tell as many people as you can. that's why these evenings can be quite cathartic, to be believed, to have a receptive audience, to listen, because they spent so many has shut away from their communities are not having the opportunity. and are not having the opportunity. and isolated, are not having the opportunity. and isolated. not _ are not having the opportunity. and isolated, not knowing anyone was going through it. yellow like i don't want to sell the post of this will leave you quivering with rage, but sometimes that's the feeling in the room, because but sometimes that's the feeling in the room, becaus— the room, because people are so outraged- _ the room, because people are so outraged. thank _ the room, because people are so outraged. thank you _ the room, because people are so outraged. thank you very - the room, because people are so outraged. thank you very much, | the room, because people are so - outraged. thank you very much, good luck with the — outraged. thank you very much, good luck with the torah. _ outraged. thank you very much, good luck with the torah. pleasure - outraged. thank you very much, good luck with the torah. pleasure to - luck with the torah. pleasure to meet you, thank you for telling a story. we will have the sport coming up story. we will have the sport coming up very shortly.
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hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. let's return to our main story now. president putin's most prominent critic has died in custody, according to russia's prison service. alexei navalny was an anti corruption campaigner and had been russia's most significant opposition leader for the past decade. two years ago he was the focus of an oscar winning documentary, where he delivered a message to the people of russia, here's what he said. my my met message for the situation i am killed, is very simple, not give up. am killed, is very simple, not give u n . ,., am killed, is very simple, not give u. ., am killed, is very simple, not give up. do me a favour, answer this one in russian- —
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we can speak now to our russia editor, steve rosenberg. good morning to you. it was almost prophetic, wasn't it, that film and those comments by alexei navalny? yeah, absolutely. he knew, his family knew, his friends knew, he was taking a huge risk by going
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against the authorities. remember backin against the authorities. remember back in 2020, they poisoned him by nerve agents in siberia, he almost died down. he was airlifted to germany for life—saving treatment. he survived. then he came back to russia, incredibly, in 2021, ithink because, as a politician, the politician inside him told him he had to return if you wanted to have a politicalfuture here in russia, but he was arrested immediately, put in jail, but he was arrested immediately, put injail, he'd been put in prison for three years, and yesterday the shocking news in this vast statement from the russian prison service, alexei navalny was dead. haifa from the russian prison service, alexei navalny was dead. how much interest has — alexei navalny was dead. how much interest has there _ alexei navalny was dead. how much interest has there been _ alexei navalny was dead. how much interest has there been in _ alexei navalny was dead. how much interest has there been in recent - interest has there been in recent months, recent weeks, surrounding alexei navalny? his been hidden away, hasn't he? he alexei navalny? his been hidden away, hasn't he?— alexei navalny? his been hidden away, hasn't he? he has been hidden awa , and away, hasn't he? he has been hidden away. and peeple _ away, hasn't he? he has been hidden
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away, and people on _ away, hasn't he? he has been hidden away, and people on the _ away, hasn't he? he has been hidden away, and people on the streets - away, and people on the streets aren't really talking about mr navalny, or when talking about him, he thus hasn't been mentioned on russian television at all, he has been blacklisted from there, so a lot of russians not thinking about alexei navalny, not all russians supported him, but for a portion of this public here, he was a symbol. he symbolised a different russia, and he was a symbol that he could hope for a different russia, a more democratic russia, and for those people his death is, is an enormous shock. i was speaking to people yesterday laying flowers on a makeshift shrine to mr navalny, one woman said she was broken when she heard of his death, a man said he cried for an hour on hearing the news, and both those people still believe, actually, and mr navalny and his message, that actually are
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different russia was possible. he did have his critics as well, didn't he? obviously the russian government, but some of his views were controversial as well. he wasn't necessarily going to be an international saviour, so to speak, international saviour, so to speak, in the eyes of the west. ihla. international saviour, so to speak, in the eyes of the west.— international saviour, so to speak, in the eyes of the west. no, he had undergone — in the eyes of the west. no, he had undergone a — in the eyes of the west. no, he had undergone a transformation - in the eyes of the west. no, he had undergone a transformation of- in the eyes of the west. no, he had undergone a transformation of the i undergone a transformation of the years. if you go back ten, 15 years, you could describe him as a nationalist. he emerged as the leading opposition figure in russia, and the only opposition figure in this country who is capable, seemed capable, bring a large number of people onto the streets to protest against the authorities. he had a charisma, there is no doubt about it, whether you like and modern lichen, he was very charismatic. he had a great strength, that was clear that came across, he had a sense of humour and a sense of purpose. he
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wanted to be president of russia, he tried to run for president last time around, in 2018, he was banned from the ballot, he said for years that are different russia was possible. what's the effect of this being on the image of president putin? he sat back at international reaction, he scored it hysterical, but when you see these international repute, they are from a place of defensiveness. whenever russia was criticised of something, whenever russia is accused of something, the reaction from here is always the same, he hits back. russia never accepts that it is responsible. whether we are talking at the salisbury poisonings,
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the skripal poisonings of the death of alexei navalny, that's what we're seeing. we haven't heard yet from president putin himself, with her reaction from the foreign ministry, and it be interesting to see whether mr putin makes any comment, because when he was asked about alexei navalny, he never mentioned alexei navalny, he never mentioned alexei navalny by name. he didn't utter the word navalny, so will be interesting to see whether he does that now. thanks for clarifying, that was the russian foreign ministry with those comments. we should talk now, if you want to learn more about alexei navalny, you can watch the storyville documentary on bbc iplayer.
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sport now, we have spoken to chris hoy many times and talked about his passion for cycling, the news came out yesterday that he has cancer. it wasn't something that he particularly wanted to make public. he has a father and has a family, and there is some discomfort i think around this. and there is some discomfort i think around this-— around this. yeah, and it's interesting, if _ around this. yeah, and it's interesting, if you - around this. yeah, and it's interesting, if you go - around this. yeah, and it's interesting, if you go on i around this. yeah, and it's - interesting, if you go on social media, a lot of sympathy for sir chris hoy, but the words resonated most i think were, for the sake of a young family i hoped to keep this private, but regrettably our hand has been forced, which i think makes a lot of people uncomfortable. it is his health, personal and private to him, but he says he was diagnosed with cancer last year, he is receiving treatment and feeling optimistic. he retired from cycling in 2013, with his record of 17 global titles
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across four disciplines making him the most successful track cyclist of all time. he now works as a pundit. only sirjason kenny, with seven, has won more olympic golds for britain than sir chris, who was knighted in 2009. the 47—year—old has said on social media that his diagnosis came as a huge shock having had no symptoms. he adds that he's optimistic, positive and surrounded by love, for which he's truly grateful and that he's continuing to work, ride his bike and live life as normal. those offering their best wishes on social media include scotland's first minister humza yousaf saying...
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all the best to sir chris. let's turn our attention to football. manchester city take on chelsea later that's one of seven premier league games. we saw the same fixture in the women's super league last night with city the winnersi 0 ending the leaders chelsea's 22 game unbeaten run. it was a game of few clear—cut chances. city had their teenage goalkeeper to thank for a crucial save in stoppage time. 1—0 finished, a first home defeat, and theyjoined the top table. a first home defeat, and they 'oined the top table.— the top table. brilliant, delighted, unbelievable _ the top table. brilliant, delighted, unbelievable character _ the top table. brilliant, delighted, unbelievable character from - the top table. brilliant, delighted, unbelievable character from the i unbelievable character from the team, _ unbelievable character from the team. to — unbelievable character from the team, to come here and do that
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against — team, to come here and do that against this team is unbelievable, i think— against this team is unbelievable, i think we _ against this team is unbelievable, i think we showed two different sides of us today, we played good, we defended — of us today, we played good, we defended resiliently, but we remain humble _ but we remain humble now, you know? it's a massive win but we stick together. go away on international break, come back, eight games to go, stay focused and go again. arsenal have the chance to move within three points of the top two later, and could break the record again for a women's super league crowd when they host manchester united. the match at the emirates, which holds just over 60,000 fans, is a sell out. 59,000 watched them beat chelsea in december. arsenal women are staging six of their 11 home league matches there this season. to cricket where it's undoubedtly been india's day so far in the third test in rajkot thanks to some magnificent bowling. england went into day three with momentum but were 290 for 5 at lunch having lost root, bairstow and ben duckett the latter for 153. the big wicket of ben stokes here followed out for 41 thanks
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india started off the bat, india currently 411—1, a lead of 70 runs. tiger woods has withdrawn from the genesis invitational in california due to illness. the 15 time major winner was taken off the course shortly after teeing off on the seventh. it was his first appearance on the pga tour since the masters last april. rory mcilroy bounced back from his opening round 7a, carding a more impressive 66 to safely make it through to the weekend. still well off the pace set by the leader patrick cantlay who has a five shot lead. and finally, dwain chambers now 45 is set to race in the 60 metres at the uk indoor championships later. he's hoping to qualify for the world indoor championships, which take
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place in glasgow next month. he was banned for doping in 2004 but returned to athletics and won the 60m world indoor title in 2010. thanks very much. it is 8:45am. since russia's invasion of ukraine two years ago, nearly 200 ukrainian medics have been killed, whilst trying to save lives. a group of front line medical personnel have now been sharing their stories, to mark the anniversary of the start of the war. charlie is outside of the studio with some of them this morning. to see the evidence of the reality they are dealing with. it's quite striking. we have come outside the studio good with media city, it's not raining, this country of course is peaceful, and you see this ambulance here, which has been used by army medics in ukraine, and as soon as you look at it you see
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the evidence of what it's like to work in a war zone. very pleased to say some of those paramedics are with us here. come over here if you would. can ijust say, brandon has a very calming manner, which is partly why i suppose you are able to do the line of work you do. so people understand the kind of risks and situations you go into, you can see the evidence behind you, you have driven over a mine that has blown up twice. two mines, two different incidents? to twice. two mines, two different incidents? ., twice. two mines, two different incidents?— incidents? to mind at once. in the east of ukraine, _ incidents? to mind at once. in the east of ukraine, we _ incidents? to mind at once. in the east of ukraine, we don't - incidents? to mind at once. in the east of ukraine, we don't own - incidents? to mind at once. in the east of ukraine, we don't own any| east of ukraine, we don't own any more, we don't have it, that was the first summer of the war. evacuating civilians and children. 50. first summer of the war. evacuating civilians and children.— civilians and children. so, you are called out. _ civilians and children. so, you are called out, what _ civilians and children. so, you are called out, what is _ civilians and children. so, you are called out, what is this, _ civilians and children. so, you are called out, what is this, an - civilians and children. so, you are called out, what is this, an active| called out, what is this, an active situation, and you are called out, and then what happens?-
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situation, and you are called out, and then what happens? russia is advancing. _ and then what happens? russia is advancing, their _ and then what happens? russia is advancing, their forces, _ and then what happens? russia is advancing, their forces, over - and then what happens? russia is| advancing, their forces, over days, weeks, advancing, theirforces, over days, weeks, and the stragglers left in the towns then decide they want to go and i want to leave and they want to come. we, with the army, will bring them to humanitarian organisations.— bring them to humanitarian organisations. bring them to humanitarian oruanisations. ., .. organisations. you are driving the ambulance? _ organisations. you are driving the ambulance? not _ organisations. you are driving the ambulance? not this _ organisations. you are driving the ambulance? not this particular i organisations. you are driving the i ambulance? not this particular one, but similar fashion, _ ambulance? not this particular one, but similar fashion, yes. _ ambulance? not this particular one, but similar fashion, yes. what - ambulance? not this particular one, but similar fashion, yes. what was i but similar fashion, yes. what was it like? the _ but similar fashion, yes. what was it like? the scary, _ but similar fashion, yes. what was it like? the scary, very _ but similar fashion, yes. what was it like? the scary, very scary. - but similar fashion, yes. what was it like? the scary, very scary. just| it like? the scary, very scary. just trying to do the right thing and focus on the moment. we can see some of the damage, i don't if you can go in and show it, you can see the damage, then what happened to this particular amulet speakers in the damage on the inside. 50. particular amulet speakers in the damage on the inside.— particular amulet speakers in the damage on the inside. so, i work with the army. — damage on the inside. so, i work with the army, our _ damage on the inside. so, i work with the army, our vehicles - damage on the inside. so, i work with the army, our vehicles are i with the army, our vehicles are green. this is a civilian pattern ambulance that you would find in any front—line cities which are subject to this. this is artillery, this would come from a larger artillery round, and they can fire from
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perhaps 20 miles or more. this is the kind of— perhaps 20 miles or more. this is the kind of thing _ perhaps 20 miles or more. this is the kind of thing that _ perhaps 20 miles or more. this is the kind of thing that could - perhaps 20 miles or more. this is the kind of thing that could be - the kind of thing that could be hitting the windscreen? yes. lets look around here, this is quite shocking in itself, become the site, we will get out of the way so you can see this, these are bullet holes. ~ .. can see this, these are bullet holes. ~ ., , ., , holes. we have some bullet holes, es, and holes. we have some bullet holes, yes. and we _ holes. we have some bullet holes, yes, and we have _ holes. we have some bullet holes, yes, and we have various _ yes, and we have various fragmentation. this probably likely hit perhaps 100, 100 and 50 yards away, and that will carry on with it. it's so powerful it will move objects, i don't to shock your audience, but the building could be hit in the brick could fly, indirect, people will lose limbs. not even from this. step indirect, people will lose limbs. not even from this.— not even from this. step in this wa , 'ust not even from this. step in this way. just use — not even from this. step in this way, just use the _ not even from this. step in this way, just use the word - not even from this. step in this way, just use the word lucky, i |
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way, just use the word lucky, i think this is your nickname? yes, that's my signing. _ think this is your nickname? yes, that's my signing. it _ think this is your nickname? yes, that's my signing. it very - think this is your nickname? yes, that's my signing. it very important to be _ that's my signing. it very important to be lucky— that's my signing. it very important to be lucky out there, so when i was told to _ to be lucky out there, so when i was told to choose a sign name, i chose it, told to choose a sign name, i chose it. because — told to choose a sign name, i chose it. because i— told to choose a sign name, i chose it, because i am very lucky person, and usually— it, because i am very lucky person, and usually has spread my local around — and usually has spread my local around. when it comes to its, the amount— around. when it comes to its, the amount of— around. when it comes to its, the amount of casualties goes down, but i amount of casualties goes down, but i don't _ amount of casualties goes down, but i don't know— amount of casualties goes down, but i don't know why it works, but it works — i don't know why it works, but it works. so — i don't know why it works, but it works, i don't know why it works, but it works. i. ~ i don't know why it works, but it works. ,. ., works. so your parent think that fellow paramedics _ works. so your parent think that fellow paramedics who - works. so your parent think that fellow paramedics who work - works. so your parent think that - fellow paramedics who work alongside you know you a good person to walk along side? you know you a good person to walk alon: side? . you know you a good person to walk along side?— along side? yes, i have a white cloud. along side? yes, i have a white cloud- the _ along side? yes, i have a white cloud. the reality _ along side? yes, i have a white cloud. the reality of— along side? yes, i have a white cloud. the reality of the - along side? yes, i have a white i cloud. the reality of the situation which ou cloud. the reality of the situation which you know _ cloud. the reality of the situation which you know first _ cloud. the reality of the situation which you know first time, - cloud. the reality of the situation which you know first time, you i cloud. the reality of the situation i which you know first time, you have lost many colleagues. as a 200 medics have been lost?- lost many colleagues. as a 200 medics have been lost? yes, i think so. i medics have been lost? yes, i think so- i think — medics have been lost? yes, i think so. i thinkthe — medics have been lost? yes, i think so. i think the figure _ medics have been lost? yes, i think so. i think the figure they _ medics have been lost? yes, i think so. i think the figure they are - so. i think the figure they are sa inc so. i think the figure they are saying this — so. i think the figure they are saying this 200 _ so. i think the figure they are saying this 200 people. - so. i think the figure they are saying this 200 people. that| saying this 200 people. that number is increasing- — saying this 200 people. that number is increasing. 0k. _ saying this 200 people. that number is increasing. 0k. maybe _ saying this 200 people. that number is increasing. 0k. maybe we - saying this 200 people. that number is increasing. 0k. maybe we can i saying this 200 people. that number is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all. is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down. — is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down. at _ is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down, at the _ is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down, at the back _ is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down, at the back of - is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down, at the back of the - is increasing. 0k. maybe we can all walk down, at the back of the van i walk down, at the back of the van here, follow it this way, we have
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some people here. good morning. you want tojust show some people here. good morning. you want to just show us inside the ambulance here in the kind of work that happens here? i will come on the other side. we that happens here? i will come on the other side.— that happens here? i will come on the other side. we can hear on the microphone- _ the other side. we can hear on the microphone. you _ the other side. we can hear on the microphone. you see _ the other side. we can hear on the microphone. you see a _ the other side. we can hear on the microphone. you see a kind - microphone. you see a kind of average — microphone. you see a kind of average medical— average medical evacuation ambulance. _ average medical evacuation ambulance, you _ average medical evacuation ambulance, you can - average medical evacuation ambulance, you can look. average medical evacuation ambulance, you can look at average medical evacuation - ambulance, you can look at the damage — ambulance, you can look at the damage this— ambulance, you can look at the damage. this is— ambulance, you can look at the damage. this is the _ ambulance, you can look at the damage. this is the structure i ambulance, you can look at the - damage. this is the structure which can come _ damage. this is the structure which can come out— damage. this is the structure which can come out and _ damage. this is the structure which can come out and we _ damage. this is the structure which can come out and we can _ damage. this is the structure which can come out and we can put - damage. this is the structure which can come out and we can put the i can come out and we can put the wounded — can come out and we can put the wounded person _ can come out and we can put the wounded person on _ can come out and we can put the wounded person on the - can come out and we can put the i wounded person on the stretcher, can come out and we can put the - wounded person on the stretcher, get them in _ wounded person on the stretcher, get them in usually— wounded person on the stretcher, get them in. usually you _ wounded person on the stretcher, get them in. usually you use _ wounded person on the stretcher, get them in. usually you use a _ wounded person on the stretcher, get them in. usually you use a certain- them in. usually you use a certain material— them in. usually you use a certain material to— them in. usually you use a certain material to wrap, _ them in. usually you use a certain material to wrap, to _ them in. usually you use a certain material to wrap, to prevent - material to wrap, to prevent hypothermia. _ material to wrap, to prevent hypothermia, and _ material to wrap, to prevent hypothermia, and then - material to wrap, to prevent hypothermia, and then the i material to wrap, to prevent - hypothermia, and then the medics would _ hypothermia, and then the medics would provision _ hypothermia, and then the medics would provision themselves - hypothermia, and then the medics would provision themselves close i hypothermia, and then the medics i would provision themselves close to the person's— would provision themselves close to the person's had _ would provision themselves close to the person's had to _ would provision themselves close to the person's had to sustain- would provision themselves close to the person's had to sustain life - would provision themselves close to the person's had to sustain life of. the person's had to sustain life of the person's had to sustain life of the patient — the person's had to sustain life of the patient. this _ the person's had to sustain life of the patient. this is _ the person's had to sustain life of the patient. this is something i the patient. this is something missing — the patient. this is something missing here. _ the patient. this is something missing here, but— the patient. this is something missing here, but we - the patient. this is something missing here, but we would i the patient. this is something - missing here, but we would normally have many— missing here, but we would normally have many monitors _ missing here, but we would normally have many monitors and _ have many monitors and breathing apparatus — have many monitors and breathing apparatus and _ have many monitors and breathing apparatus and oxygen _ have many monitors and breathing apparatus and oxygen tanks. -
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have many monitors and breathing apparatus and oxygen tanks. you i have many monitors and breathing apparatus and oxygen tanks. you work obviousl in apparatus and oxygen tanks. you work obviously in a — apparatus and oxygen tanks. you work obviously in a very _ apparatus and oxygen tanks. you work obviously in a very stressful— obviously in a very stressful environment, how do you deal with the stress that you have to deal with? 7 the stress that you have to deal with? ? as a medic on the medical evacuation team, we are concentrating on the well—being of patients in saving their lives. the most stressful for us is patients in saving their lives. the most stressful for us— patients in saving their lives. the most stressful for us is the idea we can lose life _ most stressful for us is the idea we can lose life while _ most stressful for us is the idea we can lose life while taking _ most stressful for us is the idea we can lose life while taking care - most stressful for us is the idea we can lose life while taking care of. can lose life while taking care of the patient _ can lose life while taking care of the patient. we _ can lose life while taking care of the patient. we are _ can lose life while taking care of the patient. we are trying - can lose life while taking care of the patient. we are trying to. the patient. we are trying to prepare _ the patient. we are trying to prepare ourselves, - the patient. we are trying to prepare ourselves, we - the patient. we are trying to prepare ourselves, we have| prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment— prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment to — prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment to sustain _ prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment to sustain their - prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment to sustain their lives, i prepare ourselves, we have enough equipment to sustain their lives, to| equipment to sustain their lives, to save them. — equipment to sustain their lives, to save them. and— equipment to sustain their lives, to save them, and in— equipment to sustain their lives, to save them, and in my— equipment to sustain their lives, to save them, and in my hands - equipment to sustain their lives, to save them, and in my hands here i equipment to sustain their lives, to i save them, and in my hands here you see a _ save them, and in my hands here you see a piece _ save them, and in my hands here you see a piece of— save them, and in my hands here you see a piece of shrapnel— save them, and in my hands here you see a piece of shrapnel found - save them, and in my hands here you see a piece of shrapnel found here i see a piece of shrapnel found here in the _ see a piece of shrapnel found here in the ambulance. _ see a piece of shrapnel found here in the ambulance. these _ see a piece of shrapnel found here in the ambulance. these are - see a piece of shrapnel found here in the ambulance. these are the i in the ambulance. these are the injuries— in the ambulance. these are the injuries we — in the ambulance. these are the injuries we are _ in the ambulance. these are the injuries we are dealing _ in the ambulance. these are the injuries we are dealing with. - injuries we are dealing with. this is a artillery— injuries we are dealing with. this is a artillery round _ injuries we are dealing with. this is a artillery round or— injuries we are dealing with. this is a artillery round or mortar- injuries we are dealing with. this i is a artillery round or mortar round which _ is a artillery round or mortar round which exploded _ is a artillery round or mortar round which exploded nearby _ is a artillery round or mortar round which exploded nearby to - is a artillery round or mortar round which exploded nearby to this - which exploded nearby to this vehicle. — which exploded nearby to this vehicle. and _ which exploded nearby to this vehicle, and it— which exploded nearby to this vehicle, and it was _ which exploded nearby to this vehicle, and it was designed i which exploded nearby to this i vehicle, and it was designed to which exploded nearby to this - vehicle, and it was designed to go through— vehicle, and it was designed to go through people _ vehicle, and it was designed to go through people splash _ vehicle, and it was designed to go through people splash to - vehicle, and it was designed to go through people splash to deal- vehicle, and it was designed to gol through people splash to deal with critical— through people splash to deal with critical injuries, _ through people splash to deal with critical injuries, you _ through people splash to deal with critical injuries, you can— through people splash to deal with critical injuries, you can imagine i critical injuries, you can imagine what _ critical injuries, you can imagine what these _ critical injuries, you can imagine what these patients _ critical injuries, you can imagine what these patients are - critical injuries, you can imagine i what these patients are suffering. join to _ what these patients are suffering. join to come — what these patients are suffering. join to come over— what these patients are suffering. join to come over this _ what these patients are suffering. join to come over this way - what these patients are suffering. join to come over this way a - what these patients are suffering. join to come over this way a little |
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join to come over this way a little bit? there's a reason why you've come to the uk. you're talking people to be back to people, aren't you? you're trying to help people understand the work you do on the importance, the work done in the uk? firstly i want to save face—to—face to british people my thanks for supporting ukraine, of course it is important to show artefacts, because it's more influence on people, of course. ., ., , it's more influence on people, of course. ., ., . course. how do people react when you talk to them — course. how do people react when you talk to them here? _ course. how do people react when you talk to them here? i _ course. how do people react when you talk to them here? i know— course. how do people react when you talk to them here? i know you - course. how do people react when you talk to them here? i know you have i talk to them here? i know you have chatted to quite a few people so far. . ., chatted to quite a few people so far. , ._ , ., far. yesterday we showed this ambulance — far. yesterday we showed this ambulance into _ far. yesterday we showed this ambulance into the _ far. yesterday we showed this ambulance into the streets i far. yesterday we showed this ambulance into the streets of| ambulance into the streets of london, and of course people reacted, taking photos, they ask for something and it's very normal to
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see ambulances what is damage, it's not normal for people here, because you imagine only car crash with ambulance, and it's already very scary. ambulance, and it's already very sca . , .. ~' ambulance, and it's already very sca . y ., ~ , ., ambulance, and it's already very sca . , ., ~' , ., ., scary. very true. thank you for showina scary. very true. thank you for showing us _ scary. very true. thank you for showing us around. _ scary. very true. thank you for showing us around. i'm - scary. very true. thank you forj showing us around. i'm turning around here, but i'm showing the shot, took us through, you're on a tour, aren't you? are visiting a number of did cities, and people witnessed this first time, then you have further conversations, presumably, about the situation in ukraine now. we presumably, about the situation in ukraine now-— ukraine now. we have been very rivileued ukraine now. we have been very privileged to _ ukraine now. we have been very privileged to talk _ ukraine now. we have been very privileged to talk to _ ukraine now. we have been very privileged to talk to media, - privileged to talk to media, celebrities, even vogue wants to do a photo shoot, if you can believe, of us. this is a privately funded tour, happening and all the western capitals, and i'm a foreign man, but men cannot leave the country, and
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some of us can common talk about this from london to edinburgh to here in manchester. this is not uncommon, what you see here. thank ou all so uncommon, what you see here. thank you all so much _ uncommon, what you see here. thank you all so much for— uncommon, what you see here. thank you all so much for taking _ uncommon, what you see here. thank you all so much for taking us - you all so much for taking us through what you, the work you do as well, so thank you very much, maybe just leave you with a picture of the ambulance, take your run france again, itjust really does bring it home. as a centre beginning, it's about the juxtaposition, here are a media city and it's not a bad day, people will be going about their weekends, you see a situation brings home the realities of what happens in wartime. absolutely, just something we would never expect to see here. thanks very much and thanks to your guests as well. it's 8:55am. last week on breakfast we met ultimate thunder, a rock band mostly made up of musicians
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with learning disabilities. they were facing an uncertain future after losing their funding but after appearing on the programme they've been overwhelmed with support. our reporter beth parsons has been to catch up with them. introducing scott on the drums. kenneth on the bass. alex on the synth. james on guitar. and matthew on the vocals. this is ultimate thunder. in most peoples' minds, sometimes the music that comes out of these guys, i think as soon as they get onto the stage, all the labels and barriers that they have seen in their life just fall away, and theyjust make music. it is because they are improvising it in front of people, and that is just an amazing thing to watch. how do you feel when you are playing with the band, alex? i feel happy playing music.
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you've got very good rhythm. have you got natural rhythm, scott? yes. people like to cheer. yes. i've seen some videos and the audience go wild. yes, they do definitely go wild. the band has seen multiple line—ups for the last 12 years. described as "improvised alternative rock", they are about to release their second album. they played at the brunel last saturday, and often when they play in front of a group of audience and people haven't seen a group of people with learning disabilities play music, they don't expect that to happen. and that's so important, to show how great they are, and how possible it is that they can be doing that with the right support. earlier this month, funding dried up. funding that paid for things like rehearsal space, recordings, and importantly, as some of the musicians have learning difficulties,
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support workers and extra resources. it was terrible, really. itjust felt like a rug being pulled from under ourfeetjust at the wrong moment. but, far from ready to admit defeat, the band started to crowdfund. they got support from bands like the charlatans, and even appeared on bbc breakfast. and it worked. donations have now reached over £17,000, and they are aiming for £30,000. it is not a cheap operation. there's a lot of extra needs and support that we have to provide over and above what a normal band would need. it will buy us enough time to look forfurtherfunding. the money raised means ultimate thunder can keep showing leeds, and the world, what they are made of. congratulations to them. we will be back with the headlines at ryanair.
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good morning welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. the headlines today... international outrage follows the announcement that russian opposition leader alexei navalny has died. his supporters gather in russia to pay tribute, while western leaders warn vladimir putin he will face the consequences. putin is responsible for navalny's death. putin is responsible. donald trump is ordered to pay nearly £300 million by a new york judge in a fraud case relating
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to his business empire. after defeat in two by—elections, rishi sunak issues calls for conservative voters to unite behind him. sir chris hoy says he's being treated for cancer. the six—time olympic cycling champion says he's "optimistic, positive and surrounded by love". we meet the ordinary people having their lives destroyed by so—called romance scams. it is a dry start to the day. really mild out there. the clouds are thickening and umbrellas at the ready for this evening. good morning. it's saturday, february 17th. our main story... the reported death of president putin's most prominent critic, has sparked international outrage and prompted vigils to take place around the world. western leaders have called for an independent investigation into the death of alexei navalny, who has been imprisoned since 2021, on charges widely considered to be politically motivated. the kremlin has dismissed the international reaction
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as "hysterical" and "unacceptable."

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