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be it an 0- -osition leader or an one else an opposition leader or anyone else who seems as a target exactly to him. in a landmark fraud case, a new yorkjudge orders donald trump to pay more than $350 million. mr trump says he will appeal. supporters of alexei navalny have confirmed his death in prison. kira yarmysh — mr navalny�*s spokesperson — said an official note had been given to his mother. ms yarmysh — who we will hear from shortly — demanded that mr navalny�*s body be handed over to the family immediately. as vigils continue, more than 100 people are reported to have been detained in cities across russia. shrines in honour of mr navalny have appeared across russia, in defiance of the authorities.
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alexei navalny was 47 years old and was president vladimir putin's most prominent and outspoken opponent. in the us, presidentjoe biden said that mr putin was responsible for mr navalny�*s death and that it was yet more proof of his brutality. the bbc�*s sarah rainsford has this report for us. alexei navalny was a man who dared to speak out in a country where dissent is dangerous. as news of the opposition activist�*s death spread, russians gathered to remember him. no mass protest or public fury, just silent tribute at monuments to victims of public repression. there were a handful of arrests. shouts of "shame" as this man was dragged off by police. but mostly people seemed stunned. i was seeing the news on my phone.
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at first, my first reaction was, like, "it'sjust a joke, it can't be real." but the news came more and more and more. and i was crying for one hour. i was with my friends, i was broken. i really thought that it couldn't happen. like, never. for alexei navalny�*s wife, this news had long been her worst fear. translation: if it's true, i want vladimir putin, - his entourage, his friends and government to know that they will be held responsible. navalny always knew his politics put him in the firing line. his campaign against corruption could rally big crowds. he denounced vladimir putin and his team as "crooks and thieves". arresting him became almost routine.
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then three years ago, navalny fell desperately ill on a plane. tests in germany showed he had been poisoned with novichok, a nerve agent. when he recovered, he returned to russia and was sent straight to prison. the criminal charges began piling up to keep him there. navalny had been in courtjust a day before his death was announced, appearing via video link from prison. his persistent cheer was, in itself, an act of resistance. there was no obvious sign of any sickness, but the prison service say he was out walking the next day when he collapsed and died suddenly. for vladimir putin, it was just another day. he spent it meeting factory workers with lots of smiles and no mention of navalny. but beyond russia borders, there was condemnation. make no mistake — putin is responsible for navalny�*s death.
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putin is responsible. what has happened to navalny is yet more proof of putin's brutality. no—one should be fooled, not in russia, not at home, not anywhere in the world. journalists used to ask navalny constantly whether was afraid for his life and he'd brush the question off. then, two years ago, he was asked for his message to supporters if he were killed. for the situation when i am killed, it is very simple — not give up. without navalny, though, the future for all russians who hoped for change has never looked bleaker. i have been speaking to kira yarmysh, mr navalny�*s spokesperson. she said they are still trying to learn what has happened happened to his body. wa nt to want to know anything about the location of his body because his colony told his mother and his lawyer that his body is in a city
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and an investigative committee took the body and are conducting some sort of investigation with it, but they told them that the body is located in a morgue in this city. the lawyer and his motherjust arrived to that place in the morgue is closed —— and the morgue is closed. there was a phone number on the door and they tried to call this number and they were told that there are seven people who have already called the morgue today and the body of alexei navalny isn't there, so alexei navalny�*s prisonjust lied to his mother and his lawyer that the bodyis his mother and his lawyer that the body is there, so we don't have any clue where he is now and what is happening to him, and when it will be given to the family. so
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happening to him, and when it will be given to the family.— happening to him, and when it will be given to the family. so they have “ust been be given to the family. so they have just been calling _ be given to the family. so they have just been calling a _ be given to the family. so they have just been calling a morgue - be given to the family. so they have just been calling a morgue trying . be given to the family. so they have just been calling a morgue trying to| just been calling a morgue trying to find out what has happened to the body, whether they have it? yes. body, whether they have it? yes, because the _ body, whether they have it? yes, because the colony _ body, whether they have it? yes, because the colony said - body, whether they have it? yes because the colony said that the morgue was opened and the body was there but the morgue was closed when they arrive, it's about two hours drive from the prison to the morgue. after they called, they took were told the body wasn't there. what after they called, they took were told the body wasn't there. what is our told the body wasn't there. what is your reaction _ told the body wasn't there. what is your reaction when _ told the body wasn't there. what is your reaction when you _ told the body wasn't there. what is your reaction when you hear - told the body wasn't there. what is your reaction when you hear aboutl your reaction when you hear about his death but also the conditions that are going on right now when it comes to the courtesy that his family is being shown? we comes to the courtesy that his family is being shown? we know for sure that it wasn't _ family is being shown? we know for sure that it wasn't just _ family is being shown? we know for sure that it wasn'tjust a _ family is being shown? we know for sure that it wasn'tjust a death, - family is being shown? we know for sure that it wasn'tjust a death, it i sure that it wasn'tjust a death, it was a murder, alexei was killed and we are sure it was vladimir putin, president of russia, who gave direct order to kill alexei navalny. order to kill alexei we president of russia, who gave direct order to kill alexei we know this because he already tried to kill him three and a half years ago. alexei
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was poisoned with novichok nerve agent but survived. now, putin was able to murder him and what is happening right now is that they are trying to cover traces. this is why they are not giving the body to his family and this is why they are just hiding him from them. this is what putin's state looks like just now, it is hiding a body from his family. we demand that russian authorities should immediately give the body of alexei navalny to his family, but this is what we can do. i alexei navalny to his family, but this is what we can do.— alexei navalny to his family, but this is what we can do. i think this is the point _ this is what we can do. i think this is the point you're _ this is what we can do. i think this is the point you're trying - this is what we can do. i think this is the point you're trying to - this is what we can do. i think thisj is the point you're trying to make, i spoke to un special rapporteur
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about an hour ago and she was demanding an independent investigation into his cause of death and the release of his body, but what can actually be done to get that body back?— but what can actually be done to get that body back? according to russian law, the that body back? according to russian law. the body — that body back? according to russian law, the body should _ that body back? according to russian law, the body should be _ that body back? according to russian law, the body should be given - that body back? according to russian law, the body should be given to - law, the body should be given to relatives in two days after the death of an inmate. but we know that law has never been applied to alexei and so we have no doubt that they will try to hide his body as long as possible. we remember after he was poisoned, they tried to keep him in hospital as long as possible in ormsk. they were trying to conceal the traces of novichok in his blood and his body. i think this is what
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is going on, they arejust and his body. i think this is what is going on, they are just covering up is going on, they are just covering up the traces of the way that they killed him. this is why they are hiding the body. and, of course, his family needs his body because... it's quite obvious.— it's quite obvious. there are re orts it's quite obvious. there are reports that _ it's quite obvious. there are reports that protests - it's quite obvious. there are reports that protests are - it's quite obvious. there are i reports that protests are taking place within russia in to his death. you know better than most, what risks are these people taking in showing that sort of defiance? and what have you heard about what's going on in russia right now? policemen are detaining russian citizens right now. they are just bringing flowers to the memorial of people who are politically oppressed. —— who wear a politically
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oppressed. —— who wear a politically oppressed. it is not like a rally, is just oppressed. it is not like a rally, isjust some sort oppressed. it is not like a rally, is just some sort of moral service and even under these conditions, policemen are trying to detain them and, as far as policemen are trying to detain them and, as faras i know, policemen are trying to detain them and, as far as i know, yesterday they detained more than 60 people in st petersburg and right now they are detaining people in moscow. during the night, all these spontaneous memorials were destroyed by unknown people, but policemen were guarding them, like they were helping them to destroy the memorials. this is what is going on. in destroy the memorials. this is what is going on-— is going on. in a documentary, alexei navalny _ is going on. in a documentary, alexei navalny was _ is going on. in a documentary, alexei navalny was asked, - is going on. in a documentary, alexei navalny was asked, "if| is going on. in a documentary, i alexei navalny was asked, "if you are killed, what do you want people to remember? what you want people to remember?" and he said, "don't give up." what does that mean to you and
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what you hope his legacy will be? i hope people will not give up because alexei was definitely a symbol of hope and courage for several generations of russians right now, for all russian people. what i hope is that after people grieve about him, they will find strength to keep fighting. they will continue to fighting. they will continue to fight and watch me and my colleagues will do is we will continue to work even without alexei, we still have our ideals and beliefs. we are sure that russia can be a democratic, peaceful country with fair elections and free press, and this is what we
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will try to achieve. we have a statement from the russian foreign ministry. "0n february 16, the consul ambassador of the embassy was invited to the british foreign office for a conversation. during the meeting, the british side voiced a number of biased and unrealistic assessments regarding the death of citizen alexei navalny, and also tried, with no grounds, to hold the russian authorities responsible for what happened. in this regard, the russian side emphasized that the uk's attempts to interfere in the fundamentally internal affairs of our country are categorically unacceptable. the confrontational geopolitical goals pursued by the local political establishment are obvious to us, disseminating biased, anti—russian insinuations even before the circumstances of what happened have been established. it was emphasised that russia also has plenty of questions for london, in particular regarding the alleged �*poisoning' of a navalny in 2020."
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we know that lord david cameron has also said that there will be consequences for russia and that the uk, as other western countries have said, to hold president putin and russia, as a whole, responsible for the death of alexei navalny. among world leaders and diplomats in munich for high—level debates on the world's most pressing security challenges are the european commission president ursula von der leyen and china's foreign minister wang yi who will be addressing today's session. ukraine's president volodymyr zelensky also addressed the conference, and called on europe to respond to the russian president putin. 0ur chief international correspondent, lyse doucet is in munich for us. all of those world crises have dominated the agenda, the war in ukraine, the war in gaza that also the news which had this conference
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yesterday that alexei navalny has been killed. this is still on the minds of so many delegates today including our guest who has lived in exile since 2020 when she fled belarus after she tried to challenge the authoritarian president alexander lukashenko for the alexander lu kashenko for the presidency. alexander lukashenko for the presidency. svetlana, thank you for joining us. you saw presidency. svetlana, thank you for joining us. you sanulia navalny yesterday after she addressed the security conference in munich. how is she? i security conference in munich. how is she? ~ , �* ., is she? i think she hasn't had enou:h is she? i think she hasn't had enough time _ is she? i think she hasn't had enough time to _ is she? i think she hasn't had enough time to live - is she? i think she hasn't had enough time to live through i is she? i think she hasn't had i enough time to live through the grief and it's wonderful she was given a platform to address the world. what should be the reaction on the death or murder of navalny.
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my on the death or murder of navalny. my husband has also been taken hostage in prison and last year... i don't know if he is alive and how he is treated, if he had seen the same punishment as alexei navalny, but the response to the war should be very strong on this issue because if not it will be given a green light to dictators that they can kill their political opponents in prisons without any responsibility. and their political opponents in prisons without any responsibility. and that is our without any responsibility. and that is your husband's _ without any responsibility. and that is your husband's photograph - without any responsibility. and that is your husband's photograph that l is your husband's photograph that you are carrying. you haven't heard from him for a year, he's still in prison in belarus. the killing of alexei navalny has deep in your fear for your husband and others? i iiue for your husband and others? i live in lithuania. _ for your husband and others? i live in lithuania, a _ for your husband and others? i live in lithuania, a democratic - for your husband and others? i i. - in lithuania, a democratic country, and i want to believe that democratic countries can provide security for all political dissidents, but those people who are
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in prisons, they can be checked, people in prisons are also dying, political prisoners because the ability to put prisoners in belarus is much worse than for ordinary prisoners. i think of all of those who sacrificed their freedom for the future of our country. we have also joined this campaign to bring all those perpetrators to accountability. d0 those perpetrators to accountability. do you feel supported _ accountability. do you feel supported when _ accountability. do you feel supported when you - accountability. do you feel supported when you come | accountability. do you feel i supported when you come to accountability. do you feel - supported when you come to a conference like this with defence chiefs and top diplomats? do they give you and others who are also fighting for democracy, do they support you? for fighting for democracy, do they support you?— fighting for democracy, do they support you? fighting for democracy, do they su--ort ou? ., , ., ., support you? for sure, we have found a lot of allies — support you? for sure, we have found a lot of allies among _ support you? for sure, we have found a lot of allies among democratic - a lot of allies among democratic countries over the years and i see how other european people want to help. maybe sometimes that is not enough political will to do something but i see so many things
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that we can do together. our message is to isolate dictators as much as possible. we ask for sanctions to be placed on lukashenko's regime because it deprives him of possibility to fuel this repressive machine. it's also about accountability, lukashenko accountability, lu kashenko dissipated many accountability, lukashenko dissipated many crimes against humanity any, abduction of ukrainian children, but no response from the icg, where are the democratic institutions that have to work at this very moment? talking about security, belarus is extremely important for security architecture of the whole region and the fate of ukraine and the fate of belarus are interconnected, and this is what i'm talking about at the munich security forum. but i want to say that security is impossible without humanity. how can we discuss
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security if we sometimes betray our values and humanity? returning to this merger, there will be no... it will untie dictators' hands and we should make it possible not to let them do this. should make it possible not to let them do this-— should make it possible not to let them do this. ., ., , ., ., them do this. there are many who are sa in: that them do this. there are many who are saying that there _ them do this. there are many who are saying that there should _ them do this. there are many who are saying that there should be _ saying that there should be consequences after the death of alexei navalny. you mentioned the case of belarus and the ties between lukashenko, the president of belarus, and president putin of russia are very close. what kind of steps could be taken? many say they have already been done, there are so many sanctions already. firat have already been done, there are so many sanctions already.— many sanctions already. first of all, lukashenko _ many sanctions already. first of all, lukashenko is _ many sanctions already. first of all, lukashenko is not _ many sanctions already. first of all, lukashenko is not the - many sanctions already. first of - all, lukashenko is not the president of belarus, he lost the election but seized the power and with help of brutality and oppression, he is keeping power at the moment. so many sanctions have been imposed but i say, you're left so many loopholes to circumvent the sanctions that of course i'm not happy. more sanctions
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on belarus and russia, and dictators are using each other to continue trade with the greater world. close the loopholes, it will have a huge effect on income of these two dictators. it's about responsibility and accountability. where are international courts? it is important to give the message that crime will be punished. assist and support democratic movements, people are sacrificing their homes and freedom to continue this fight and we need more assistance, we need louder voices in the international arena, just don't forget about
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bills, the fate of russia and belarus are intertwined. helping ukraine, we fully support this idea that all the possible assistance should be given to ukraine because they are fighting not only for peace but against dictatorship, the same as people in belarus, so help those who are on the front line of this fight. 0ne who are on the front line of this fight. one more issue is about fatigue, i so often hear that so many things are happening in the world. talk to people in punishment cells in prisons about fatigue, tell fatigue to soldiers and trenches who are sacrificing their lives in this fight. you can contribute a little bit with your cosy lives, there might be high prices, but you can contribute to the values that unite all of us. ., ., ., ., ~ i. , all of us. that lana, thank you very much forjoining — all of us. that lana, thank you very much forjoining us, _ all of us. that lana, thank you very much forjoining us, the _ all of us. that lana, thank you very much forjoining us, the leader - all of us. that lana, thank you very | much forjoining us, the leader from much forjoining us, the leaderfrom belarus who challenged the president lukashenko in elections in 2020 is
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now living in exile, worried for people like living in exile, her husband imprisoned in belarus and deeply affected by the death of alexei navalny in a penal colony in russia. we will continue to follow developments and reactions from here, munich, but now back to you in london. the agenda at this year's annual security conference in munich took a dramatic shift following the news that russian opposition leader alexei navalny had died in prison. already anticipating pleas from ukrainian president zelensky for western support, the world military and diplomatic officials also learned of the fall of the long defended donbass city of advdiikva to russian forces. for many western leaders, both developments have underlined the need to bolster european capability, and american will to give ukraine the weapons it needs. one of those is us assistant secretary of defence celeste wallander. she sat down with bbc security correspondent frank gardner, who asked her whether the death of navalny would provoke a policy
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response from washington. i wouldn't get ahead of leadership decisions, the range of options include looking at sanctions, restrictions and so i think it's very clear that our leaderships are thinking about various options but what i would emphasise is that one of the clear consequences is going to be a further deepening and resolve of the united states and of european countries to understand what the putin regime really is, what the putin regime really is, what it is capable of, and to reinforce the sense that we have to come together to address and resist the challenge that the putin regime presents. the challenge that the putin regime resents. , , ., ., , , , the challenge that the putin regime resents. ,, ., , , ., , presents. russia has put its economy onto a war footing. _ presents. russia has put its economy onto a war footing. there _ presents. russia has put its economy onto a war footing. there are - presents. russia has put its economy onto a war footing. there are calls i onto a war footing. there are calls in some quarters for the west and nato to do the same. i
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in some quarters for the west and nato to do the same.— in some quarters for the west and nato to do the same. i wouldn't like to see our countries _ nato to do the same. i wouldn't like to see our countries go _ nato to do the same. i wouldn't like to see our countries go on _ nato to do the same. i wouldn't like to see our countries go on a - nato to do the same. i wouldn't like to see our countries go on a war- to see our countries go on a war footing. nato is not at war with russia. russia would like to characterise it that way to justify things like 24—hour defence production, the kind of spike in inflation that's happening in the russian economy and having to offer high salaries to lure workers for that defence production, so there are significant costs to being on a wartime footing and unfortunately the russian people are going to begin to feel those effects. but what we can do is, short of a war footing, is to cooperate together, to work on joint procurement contracts, to send signals to defence industry so that they make the kinds of investment and expanding production lines. that's what we have already seen happen. in the united states, our congress allows the united states to do multi—year procurement to place
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contracts that help companies to expand production. europe is doing that as well. expand production. europe is doing that as well-— expand production. europe is doing that as well. what reassurances can the us give — that as well. what reassurances can the us give to _ that as well. what reassurances can the us give to worried _ that as well. what reassurances can the us give to worried european - the us give to worried european parties and allies that america could abandon nato? parties and allies that america could abandon nata?- parties and allies that america could abandon nato? there is very clear bipartisan _ could abandon nato? there is very clear bipartisan support _ could abandon nato? there is very clear bipartisan support in - could abandon nato? there is very clear bipartisan support in the - clear bipartisan support in the united states for the transatlantic alliance. at the munich security conference, we have a congressional delegation here, we have clear voices from our legislative leadership that they will fund and support and care very deeply and understand the importance. president biden has been very clear that the united states will stand by our commitments, that we have stood with europe in the context of nato for 75 years and even before that throughout the 20th century. i can't really comment on the statements of presidential candidates, that's an issue of american politics, but i
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think the support of the american people for the transatlantic alliance is a solid, and i expected to continue. there is much more on the bbc website. stay with us here on bbc news. hello. after a dry and mild start to the day, the afternoon for most of us isn't looking too bad, but clouds will be thickening through the afternoon, and out towards the west it will already be raining by early afternoon, i think, and if you look at the satellite picture you can see a weather front sweeping towards the uk, and that clearer weatherjust ahead of it, so i think some brightness along the east coast, maybe around the midlands, the south—east, too. this is around four o'clock in the afternoon, but out in the west you can
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see it's wet. on top of that it's going to be quite windy, as well. where you see the green splodges, that is where the rain is heavier, for example, around the lake district, south—western scotland, through northern ireland and into the western isles, but notice that around the north—east of scotland, actually, it's still relatively bright on saturday, and those temperatures in the north about 10, but in the south it's closer to around 14 or 15 degrees. now, all of us are in for some rain tonight. it will be quite heavy, and particularly heavy i think in the south of the country through the early hours of sunday morning, and it's going to be a mild night. in scotland, in aberdeen, around 7 degrees, 10 expected in liverpool, that's the morning temperature on sunday — and 12 in the south. now, we are a little uncertain as to how soon this rain is going to clear from east anglia and the south—east, so, yes, a wet start for many of us, for sure, but that weather front could drag its heels around this corner of the country. i think that by the time we get to around early afternoon we should be all in mostly sunny weather, and certainly the further
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north and west you are. temperatures 12 in glasgow, 13 in birmingham, in plymouth it will also be about 13 — add a degree on top of that, i think, in the south—east. now, monday, a weak weather front will sweep across the country, and then this high pressure will build. here is that weak weather front in the morning. that will produce some rain, some showers for a time, then i think the skies will clear a little bit later on in the day. temperatures about what we have been used to, maybe a shade lower, say 9 in stornoway, about 10 in liverpool and 13 or so in london, and if you're planning the week it is looking unsettled. it's going to he often wet, windy at times, temperatures still into double figures and then at the end of the week ahead it could turn a little bit colder. bye— bye.
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this is bbc news. the headlines: as demonstrations and vigils continue around the world, alexei navalny�*s spokeswoman confirms his death. human rights activists say police have detained more than a hundred people attending memorials in russia. in a landmark fraud case, a new yorkjudge orders donald trump to pay more than $350 million and bans him from doing business in the state for three years. mr trump calls the ruling a �*total sham' and says he will appeal. a cry for unity for conservative unity from rishi sunak after his party's two big by—election defeats this week.
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the japanese space agency says its new h3 rocket has successfully ta ken off. it hopes to gain a foothold in the commercial satellite launching business. and as london fashion week kicks off for its 40th year, we take a look at some of the creations. here in the uk, the prime minister, rishi sunak, has urged what he calls the "conservative family" to come together. it's in the wake of the tory party's defeats in thursday's by—elections. labour won two seats overturning conservative majorities in kingswood and wellingborough. earlier i spoke to our political correspondent charlotte writght, earlier i spoke to our political correspondent charlotte wright, and asked her what message the prime minister rishi sunak is trying to send to his party. well, i think he's trying to say, "stick with me." it was a bruising day yesterday for the conservatives. two big losses in those by—elections in wellingborough and kingswood. labour won both taking
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the seats off the tories. and many conservative mps are feeling despondent

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