a very strong like you say, he has a very strong fan of film. many years ago, i did a royal visit with him when he was on the set of star wars alongside his brother at pinewood studios, and again, they seem to be really enjoying that particular thing. huge star wars fans, "do you want to go to the set of star wars?" waving like they were and having the time of their lives. we like they were and having the time of their lives.— of their lives. we saw cillian murphy. _ of their lives. we saw cillian murphy. he _ of their lives. we saw cillian murphy. he did _ of their lives. we saw cillian murphy, he did work - of their lives. we saw cillian murphy, he did work by - of their lives. we saw cillian murphy, he did work by us. | of their lives. we saw cillian - murphy, he did work by us. back in the day, the tv and film baftas used to be one event. i got thinking earlier today, to be one event. i got thinking earliertoday, because to be one event. i got thinking earlier today, because robert downey jr could well win best supporting actor today for oppenheimer. the last time robert downey actor today for oppenheimer. the last time robert downeer won a bafta, it was for chaplin and it was 1993. �* . ., ., ' ' ' bafta, it was for chaplin and it was 1993. �* u, ., " ' it 1993. but it came out in 1992. it was combined _ 1993. but it came out in 1992. it was combined with _ 1993. but it came out in 1992. it was combined with the - 1993. but it came out in 1992. it was combined with the tv - 1993. but it came out in 1992. it i was combined with the tv baftas. there are photos of robert downey was combined with the tv baftas. there are photos of robert downeer

at the ceremony, robert downey there are photos of robert downeer at the ceremony, robert downeer witnessed best entertainment programme going to know house party. it is interesting because a whole generation no robert downey it is interesting because a whole generation no robert downeer as iron man from the marvel films, but going back he is an extraordinarily gifted actor that has range. not to diss the marvel movies in any way, but they are not the best way to show off emotional range. i remember seeing chaplin and being bowled over by what he did there, his sense of comic timing, to betray someone he was a very complex character. oppenheimer is the one we are expecting, the one that is going to take it today. expecting, the one that is going to take it today-— take it today. how many is the question- _ take it today. how many is the question- it — take it today. how many is the question. it is _ take it today. how many is the question. it is nominated - take it today. how many is the question. it is nominated for l take it today. how many is the l question. it is nominated for 13. the most baftas ever want in one night was nine by butch cassidy and the sundance kid in 1971. i think oppenheimer could go close to that

all—time record tonight. idol a all-time record tonight. not a totally fair _ all-time record tonight. not a totally fair comparison, - all-time record tonight. not a totally fair comparison, in - all-time record tonight. not a l totally fair comparison, in those days i think there were a quarter fewer categories they could go for, so in terms of the actual percentage, probably something like butch cassidy, but it could well top that tonight in terms of sheer numbers. that tonight in terms of sheer numbers-_ that tonight in terms of sheer numbers. ., ., ., , numbers. nine out of 13 would still be a heck of _ numbers. nine out of 13 would still be a heck of an _ numbers. nine out of 13 would still be a heck of an achievement. - numbers. nine out of 13 would still be a heck of an achievement. we l numbers. nine out of 13 would still. be a heck of an achievement. we will be a heck of an achievement. we will be brinuain be a heck of an achievement. we will be bringing you _ be a heck of an achievement. we will be bringing you all _ be a heck of an achievement. we will be bringing you all of _ be a heck of an achievement. we will be bringing you all of the _ be a heck of an achievement. we will be bringing you all of the results - be bringing you all of the results if you want to follow us on the news app, if you want to follow us on the news app, on the bbc news website or if you want to watch the ceremony going out later, it will be on bbc one between 7—9 pm. from here on the red carpet, we have spoken to as many stars as we can it is back to you in the studio. and everyone else, have a fantastic evening and i hope your favourite film wins.

this morning the government minister who had the lucky ticket of coming on after a thumping at the by—election, which we talked about yesterday, was the immigration minister. now, and we commend you think it tells us anything that michael tomlinson, no offence, he doesn't have a hugely high—profile, as the person who had the lucky to get this morning? it definitely tells us a couple of things. one is that the government does want michael tomlinson to be one of of its immigration policy. that might sound a bit s w one but it definitely matters. he has done quite a lot of broadcast rounds

since he got thatjob and worth remembering he got thatjob in a very frantic few hours after robert it generates, up until that .1 of rishi sunak�*s closest politics, suddenly resigned and tore into his immigration policy. it is suddenly resigned and tore into his immigration policy.— immigration policy. it is not like when he is _ immigration policy. it is not like when he is to _ immigration policy. it is not like when he is to appear _ immigration policy. it is not like when he is to appear on - immigration policy. it is not like when he is to appear on the - when he is to appear on the programme and she knew he was speaking for the sheets tonight as well as the government, which is quite an important distinction. the other thing i think it tells us, after a, other thing i think it tells us, aftera, i other thing i think it tells us, after a, i think it is fair to say, after a, i think it is fair to say, a terrible week for the conservative party, is that they believe that immigration, highlighting that issue, highlighting what they think they are doing to fix it, is one of they are doing to fix it, is one of the crucial ways they might be able to turn things around. 50 the crucial ways they might be able to turn things around.— to turn things around. so whatever auestions to turn things around. so whatever questions this _ to turn things around. so whatever questions this morning _ to turn things around. so whatever questions this morning was - to turn things around. so whatever questions this morning was after i questions this morning was after this absolute thumping, whether the tories are actually going to change everything. we have seen it after elections, sometimes parties go, yes, we have listened, we will learn. ,

yes, we have listened, we will learn._ uxbridge, . yes, we have listened, we will i learn._ uxbridge, right. learn. uxbridge. uxbridge, right. and after that _ learn. uxbridge. uxbridge, right. and after that the _ learn. uxbridge. uxbridge, right. and after that the tories - learn. uxbridge. uxbridge, right. and after that the tories did - learn. uxbridge. uxbridge, right. l and after that the tories did really change tack on rishi sunak�*s rhetoric around the environment, however much he changed in policy, thatis however much he changed in policy, that is a big debate although he did change some things. at this time, actually, michael tomlinson this morning came up with that phrase that we have already heard again and again and again, stick with the plan, stick with the plan, please don't vote for reform because what you will do is let labour an.- you will do is let labour an. there is no doubt _ you will do is let labour an. there is no doubt that _ you will do is let labour an. there is no doubt that these _ you will do is let labour an. there l is no doubt that these by-elections is no doubt that these by—elections were set_ is no doubt that these by—elections were set against _ is no doubt that these by—elections were set against a _ is no doubt that these by—elections were set against a very _ is no doubt that these by—elections were set against a very difficult - is no doubt that these by—elections were set against a very difficult to. were set against a very difficult to backed _ were set against a very difficult to backed uu — were set against a very difficult to backed uh i— were set against a very difficult to backed up. i was _ were set against a very difficult to backed up. i was in _ were set against a very difficult to backed up. i was in kingswood - were set against a very difficult to - backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks— backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks ago _ backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks ago i_ backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks ago. i saw _ backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks ago. i saw an _ backed up. i was in kingswood myself a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent l a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate _ a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate in— a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate in the _ a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate in the campaign- a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate in the campaign on- a few weeks ago. i saw an excellent candidate in the campaign on the i candidate in the campaign on the ground _ candidate in the campaign on the ground but— candidate in the campaign on the ground but actually, _ candidate in the campaign on the ground but actually, if— candidate in the campaign on the ground but actually, if you - candidate in the campaign on the ground but actually, if you look l candidate in the campaign on thei ground but actually, if you look at it, ground but actually, if you look at it. if— ground but actually, if you look at it. if you — ground but actually, if you look at it. if you look— ground but actually, if you look at it, if you look at, _ ground but actually, if you look at it, if you look at, for— ground but actually, if you look at it, if you look at, for example, . it, if you look at, for example, reform's— it, if you look at, for example, reform's vote _ it, if you look at, for example, reform's vote which _ it, if you look at, for example, reform's vote which people - it, if you look at, for example, i reform's vote which people have it, if you look at, for example, - reform's vote which people have been looking _ reform's vote which people have been looking at _ reform's vote which people have been looking at this — reform's vote which people have been looking at this week, _ reform's vote which people have been looking at this week, what _ reform's vote which people have been looking at this week, what comes - looking at this week, what comes across— looking at this week, what comes across to — looking at this week, what comes across to me _ looking at this week, what comes across to me as _ looking at this week, what comes across to me as it _ looking at this week, what comes across to me as it is— looking at this week, what comes across to me as it is very- looking at this week, what comes across to me as it is very clear. across to me as it is very clear that— across to me as it is very clear that we — across to me as it is very clear that we vote _ across to me as it is very clear that we vote for _ across to me as it is very clear that we vote for reform - across to me as it is very clear that we vote for reform is - across to me as it is very clear that we vote for reform is a i across to me as it is very clear. that we vote for reform is a vote across to me as it is very clear- that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour— that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in— that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in and _ that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in and that _ that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in and that is _ that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in and that is a - that we vote for reform is a vote to let labour in and that is a very- let labour in and that is a very clear— let labour in and that is a very clear message _ let labour in and that is a very clear message that _ let labour in and that is a very clear message that i've - let labour in and that is a very clear message that i've takeni let labour in and that is a very- clear message that i've taken away. one of— clear message that i've taken away. one of the — clear message that i've taken away. one of the clear— clear message that i've taken away. one of the clear messages. - clear message that i've taken away. one of the clear messages. but- clear message that i've taken away. one of the clear messages.- one of the clear messages. but the messaue one of the clear messages. but the message is —

one of the clear messages. but the message is that _ one of the clear messages. but the message is that voters _ one of the clear messages. but the message is that voters do - one of the clear messages. but the message is that voters do not i one of the clear messages. but the message is that voters do not like i message is that voters do not like what rishi sunak is offering them. the south—west, selby and the north, the midlands, bedfordshire and the south—east, this is a long line of kings since rishi sunak has been in. voters do not want what he is offering. voters do not want what he is offerina. , ., , , offering. these have been very difficult circumstances - offering. these have been very difficult circumstances and i offering. these have been very difficult circumstances and a i difficult circumstances and a difficult _ difficult circumstances and a difficult set _ difficult circumstances and a difficult set of _ difficult circumstances and a i difficult set of circumstances. we sell the _ difficult set of circumstances. we sell the turnout _ difficult set of circumstances. we sell the turnout in _ difficult set of circumstances. we sell the turnout in the _ sell the turnout in the by—elections. - sell the turnout in the by—elections. very- sell the turnout in the i by—elections. very different sell the turnout in the _ by—elections. very different from the turnout — by—elections. very different from the turnout you _ by—elections. very different from the turnout you get _ by—elections. very different from the turnout you get at _ by—elections. very different from the turnout you get at a - by—elections. very different from the turnout you get at a general. the turnout you get at a general election — the turnout you get at a general election. much— the turnout you get at a general election. much higher, - the turnout you get at a general election. much higher, likely. the turnout you get at a general election. much higher, likely to| the turnout you get at a general. election. much higher, likely to be the 60s— election. much higher, likely to be the 60s or— election. much higher, likely to be the 60s or hopefully— election. much higher, likely to be the 60s or hopefully towards i election. much higher, likely to be the 60s or hopefully towards the l election. much higher, likely to be i the 60s or hopefully towards the 70s but it has— the 60s or hopefully towards the 70s but it has been— the 60s or hopefully towards the 70s but it has been a _ the 60s or hopefully towards the 70s but it has been a very— the 60s or hopefully towards the 70s but it has been a very difficult - but it has been a very difficult backdrou _ but it has been a very difficult backdro -. ., but it has been a very difficult backdrop-— but it has been a very difficult backdro -. ., , ., ., , , ., but it has been a very difficult backdro. ., , ., ., , , ., , backdrop. can you address that this is the umpteenth _ backdrop. can you address that this is the umpteenth minister- backdrop. can you address that this is the umpteenth minister i - backdrop. can you address that this is the umpteenth minister i have i is the umpteenth minister i have heard saying that a vote for reform will let keogh stammer into downing street. i don't the address why so many people have turned to reform? no good just saying i don't do this thing that voters want. i

no good just saying i don't do this thing that voters want.— no good just saying i don't do this thing that voters want. i guess the conservatives _ thing that voters want. i guess the conservatives would _ thing that voters want. i guess the conservatives would say, - thing that voters want. i guess the conservatives would say, that i thing that voters want. i guess the conservatives would say, that is i thing that voters want. i guess the l conservatives would say, that is why michael _ conservatives would say, that is why michael tomlinson was talking about immigration today and it is certainly— immigration today and it is certainly true that it remains the view, _ certainly true that it remains the view, the — certainly true that it remains the view, the hope, whatever you want to say, in _ view, the hope, whatever you want to say, in terms— view, the hope, whatever you want to say, in terms of conservative high command — say, in terms of conservative high command that if a plane takes off for a _ command that if a plane takes off for a one — command that if a plane takes off for a one day, shows that the policy can operate — for a one day, shows that the policy can operate let alone that it might be effective which is the subsequent question. _ be effective which is the subsequent question, that will show members of the public, _ question, that will show members of the public, former conservative voters — the public, former conservative voters who might be wavering, frustrated by the number of small vote crossings and a legal immigration system, that the government is doing something. not a magic— government is doing something. not a magic bullet in the conservative mind _ magic bullet in the conservative mind but— magic bullet in the conservative mind but definitely a big part of these _ mind but definitely a big part of these things. they is a big reason voters _ these things. they is a big reason voters are — these things. they is a big reason voters are going to reform. immigration only came up at the end of the _

immigration only came up at the end of the sort _ immigration only came up at the end of the sort of long vans, long conversations i was having with voters — conversations i was having with voters about all the things that were _ voters about all the things that were annoying them. it wasjust one thing _ were annoying them. it wasjust one thing is _ were annoying them. it wasjust one thing is part— were annoying them. it wasjust one thing is part of a sort of broader peace — thing is part of a sort of broader peace. localas thing is part of a sort of broader peace. local as well as national and i peace. local as well as national and i found _ peace. local as well as national and i found that — peace. local as well as national and i found that really interesting because _ i found that really interesting because i don't think it is like, 2019. — because i don't think it is like, 2019, early 2019, when the conservatives that buy their own are very bad _ conservatives that buy their own are very bad way but it was clear that if they— very bad way but it was clear that if they could sell breaks that loads of voters _ if they could sell breaks that loads of voters would flock to them. it seems _ of voters would flock to them. it seems that is seen by many voters is 'ust seems that is seen by many voters is just one _ seems that is seen by many voters is just one symptom of a country not working _ just one symptom of a country not working on— just one symptom of a country not working on many levels. i just one symptom of a country not working on many levels.— just one symptom of a country not working on many levels. i think that is really dangerous _ working on many levels. i think that is really dangerous for _ working on many levels. i think that is really dangerous for the - is really dangerous for the conservatives. and if you look at the opinion polling or, as we did a few weeks ago, we talked about different focus groups come immigration for a former conservative voters are conservative voters, tends to come in at the top and one issue but if you look across the piece the issue nearly always is cost of living, far out at the front. then the nhs, then, for some people come immigration hovering around the same place, actually, is climate change, for a lot of people.

don't shoot me, newscasters. there is lots of different types of polling but if you look across the whole population immigration is number one but the conservatives believe it is number one for many of the voters they are trying to get back you are blue before and they want to get blue now. it back you are blue before and they want to get blue now.— back you are blue before and they want to get blue now. it has been a cha ter in want to get blue now. it has been a chapter in politics _ want to get blue now. it has been a chapter in politics this _ want to get blue now. it has been a chapter in politics this week - chapter in politics this week because of the by—elections. me is that labour should be projecting power, projecting victory but there has been this kind of, what do they mean in rochdale and did you get into that with david? he mean in rochdale and did you get into that with david?— mean in rochdale and did you get into that with david? he wants to be the foreian into that with david? he wants to be the foreign secretary _ into that with david? he wants to be the foreign secretary in _ into that with david? he wants to be the foreign secretary in the - into that with david? he wants to be the foreign secretary in the next i the foreign secretary in the next labour government if they win the election and he spoke to us this morning from the munich security conference whichever year is a big gathering a big wig leaders from around the world but has a new urgency this year given what has happened with aleksei navalny. we asked about labour's handling of anti—semitism and he said kier starmer made the right decision about the candidate in rochdale in the but he did use the s word. i am sor . the but he did use the s word. i am sorry- that — the but he did use the s word. i am sorry- that the _

the but he did use the s word. i am sorry. that the initial— the but he did use the s word. i am sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he _ sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he had — sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he had made _ sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he had made an _ sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he had made an apology. i sorry. that the initialjudgment was that he had made an apology. the. that he had made an apology. the candidate — that he had made an apology. the candidate made _ that he had made an apology. the candidate made an _ that he had made an apology. the candidate made an apology- that he had made an apology. the candidate made an apology and i that he had made an apology. the i candidate made an apology and more came to _ candidate made an apology and more came to tight — candidate made an apology and more came to light. and _ candidate made an apology and more came to light. and it _ candidate made an apology and more came to light. and it was _ candidate made an apology and more came to light. and it was right- candidate made an apology and more came to light. and it was right that i came to light. and it was right that kier acted — came to light. and it was right that kier acted decisively— came to light. and it was right that kier acted decisively to _ came to light. and it was right that kier acted decisively to withdraw i kier acted decisively to withdraw our support— kier acted decisively to withdraw our support to _ kier acted decisively to withdraw our support to him _ kier acted decisively to withdraw our support to him as _ kier acted decisively to withdraw our support to him as the - kier acted decisively to withdrawj our support to him as the labour candidate — our support to him as the labour candidate. the _ our support to him as the labour candidate. the people _ our support to him as the labour candidate. the people of- our support to him as the labour. candidate. the people of rochdale will not _ candidate. the people of rochdale will not have — candidate. the people of rochdale will not have a _ candidate. the people of rochdale will not have a labour— candidate. the people of rochdale will not have a labour candidate i candidate. the people of rochdalel will not have a labour candidate on the ticket _ will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and — will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and i _ will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and i am _ will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and i am very— will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and i am very sorry i will not have a labour candidate on the ticket and i am very sorry that. the ticket and i am very sorry that they will— the ticket and i am very sorry that they will not — the ticket and i am very sorry that they will not be _ the ticket and i am very sorry that they will not be able _ the ticket and i am very sorry that they will not be able to _ the ticket and i am very sorry that they will not be able to vote i the ticket and i am very sorry that. they will not be able to vote labour but i absolutely _ they will not be able to vote labour but i absolutely stunned _ they will not be able to vote labour but i absolutely stunned by - they will not be able to vote labour but i absolutely stunned by that i but i absolutely stunned by that decision— but i absolutely stunned by that decision not— but i absolutely stunned by that decision not to _ but i absolutely stunned by that decision not to support - but i absolutely stunned by that decision not to support a - but i absolutely stunned by that i decision not to support a candidate that came — decision not to support a candidate that came up — decision not to support a candidate that came up the _ decision not to support a candidate that came up the whole _ decision not to support a candidate that came up the whole series i decision not to support a candidate that came up the whole series of. that came up the whole series of anti-semitic— that came up the whole series of anti—semitic tropes. _ that came up the whole series of anti—semitic tropes. i— that came up the whole series of anti—semitic tropes. i thought i that came up the whole series of. anti—semitic tropes. i thought that was interesting _ anti—semitic tropes. i thought that was interesting because _ anti—semitic tropes. i thought that was interesting because we - anti—semitic tropes. i thought that was interesting because we had i anti—semitic tropes. i thought thati was interesting because we had not heard _ was interesting because we had not heard that — was interesting because we had not heard that from _ was interesting because we had not heard that from the _ was interesting because we had not heard that from the leadership i was interesting because we had notl heard that from the leadership team around _ heard that from the leadership team around kier— heard that from the leadership team around kier starmer— heard that from the leadership team around kier starmer so _ heard that from the leadership team around kier starmer so far— heard that from the leadership team around kier starmer so far and - heard that from the leadership team around kier starmer so far and we i around kier starmer so far and we heard _ around kier starmer so far and we heard it _ around kier starmer so far and we heard it was — around kier starmer so far and we heard it was a _ around kier starmer so far and we heard it was a tough _ around kier starmer so far and we heard it was a tough decision, - around kier starmer so far and we heard it was a tough decision, we| heard it was a tough decision, we took_ heard it was a tough decision, we took it. _ heard it was a tough decision, we took it. we — heard it was a tough decision, we took it, we looked _ heard it was a tough decision, we took it, we looked at _ heard it was a tough decision, we took it, we looked at the - heard it was a tough decision, we took it, we looked at the facts . heard it was a tough decision, wel took it, we looked at the facts and more _ took it, we looked at the facts and more emerged _ took it, we looked at the facts and more emerged so— took it, we looked at the facts and more emerged so intentionally- took it, we looked at the facts and more emerged so intentionally or| took it, we looked at the facts and i more emerged so intentionally or not he did _ more emerged so intentionally or not he did apologise _ more emerged so intentionally or not he did apologise for— more emerged so intentionally or not he did apologise for the _ more emerged so intentionally or not he did apologise for the sort - more emerged so intentionally or not he did apologise for the sort of- he did apologise for the sort of mess— he did apologise for the sort of mess of— he did apologise for the sort of mess of that _ he did apologise for the sort of mess of that. i— he did apologise for the sort of mess of that. i think _ he did apologise for the sort of mess of that. i think they've i he did apologise for the sort of. mess of that. i think they've got another— mess of that. i think they've got another mess _ mess of that. i think they've got another mess to _ mess of that. i think they've got another mess to look _ mess of that. i think they've got another mess to look ahead - mess of that. i think they've got another mess to look ahead at l mess of that. i think they've got . another mess to look ahead at this

week— another mess to look ahead at this week because _ another mess to look ahead at this week because there's _ another mess to look ahead at this week because there's going - another mess to look ahead at this week because there's going to - another mess to look ahead at this week because there's going to be i another mess to look ahead at this| week because there's going to be a vote irr— week because there's going to be a vote in commons— week because there's going to be a vote in commons on— week because there's going to be a vote in commons on whether - week because there's going to be a vote in commons on whether or- week because there's going to be a| vote in commons on whether or not they should — vote in commons on whether or not they should be _ vote in commons on whether or not they should be a _ vote in commons on whether or not they should be a ceasefire - vote in commons on whether or not they should be a ceasefire in - vote in commons on whether or not they should be a ceasefire in gaza. i they should be a ceasefire in gaza. last time _ they should be a ceasefire in gaza. last time that _ they should be a ceasefire in gaza. last time that happened, - they should be a ceasefire in gaza. last time that happened, more - they should be a ceasefire in gaza. i last time that happened, more than 50 labour— last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps— last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps voted _ last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps voted for— last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps voted for there - last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps voted for there to . last time that happened, more than 50 labour mps voted for there to bei 50 labour mps voted for there to be an immediate — 50 labour mps voted for there to be an immediate ceasefire. _ 50 labour mps voted for there to be an immediate ceasefire. keir- 50 labour mps voted for there to be. an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did _ an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not _ an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not want— an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not want the _ an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not want the labour— an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not want the labour party- an immediate ceasefire. keir starmer did did not want the labour party to i did did not want the labour party to do that _ did did not want the labour party to do that and — did did not want the labour party to do that. and yesterday, _ did did not want the labour party to do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, i do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, scottish _ do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, scottish labour— do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, scottish labour backed _ do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, scottish labour backed the - do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, scottish labour backed the notion l do that. and yesterday, awkwardly, | scottish labour backed the notion of that at— scottish labour backed the notion of that at their— scottish labour backed the notion of that at their conference _ scottish labour backed the notion of that at their conference in _ scottish labour backed the notion of that at their conference in glasgow i that at their conference in glasgow and you _ that at their conference in glasgow and you had — that at their conference in glasgow and you had the _ that at their conference in glasgow and you had the scottish _ that at their conference in glasgow and you had the scottish labour. and you had the scottish labour leader— and you had the scottish labour leader on— and you had the scottish labour leader on your— and you had the scottish labour leader on your programme - and you had the scottish labour leader on your programme this| leader on your programme this m0mi“9~ — leader on your programme this m0mi“9~ he— leader on your programme this morninu. , . ., leader on your programme this mornin. , . . , , morning. he repeated that, basically s-ueakin , morning. he repeated that, basically speaking. call _ morning. he repeated that, basically speaking. call it _ morning. he repeated that, basically speaking, call it what _ morning. he repeated that, basically speaking, call it what you _ morning. he repeated that, basically speaking, call it what you like, - speaking, call it what you like, there needs to be an immediate stop of hostilities, of everything. so do you think this is a big issue in the week ahead for labour? the snp has called the ceasefire motion labour has a different position in westminster than it appears to have in scotland. i westminster than it appears to have in scotland. ~ . westminster than it appears to have in scotland. ~ , . . , in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue- _ in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue- i— in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue. ithink— in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue. i think it— in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue. i think it is- in scotland. i think it is certainly a big issue. i think it is probablyi a big issue. i think it is probably less of— a big issue. i think it is probably less of a — a big issue. i think it is probably less of a bigger issue than last time _ less of a bigger issue than last time this— less of a bigger issue than last time this came up for a few different— time this came up for a few different reasons. one of them is that labour's position, indeed the

uk's position, generally, cross parties. — uk's position, generally, cross parties, has changed a little bit since _ parties, has changed a little bit since then. labour do now use the ceasefire — since then. labour do now use the ceasefire word although they prevacid with sustainable ceasefire which _ prevacid with sustainable ceasefire which is _ prevacid with sustainable ceasefire which is their way of emphasising that it _ which is their way of emphasising that it is — which is their way of emphasising that it is notjust israel fighting here~ _ that it is notjust israel fighting here if— that it is notjust israel fighting here. if you'll has rockets into its territory — here. if you'll has rockets into its territory and so on. there is that element — territory and so on. there is that element which is that the labour party— element which is that the labour party is— element which is that the labour party is now much closer to the position— party is now much closer to the position being espoused in this snp motioh _ position being espoused in this snp motion than it was last time around. the other— motion than it was last time around. the other thing is that those labour shadow— the other thing is that those labour shadow frontbenchers, who might resign— shadow frontbenchers, who might resign over this, have basically already— resign over this, have basically already resigned. you had the big rebettioh — already resigned. you had the big rebellion last time around. so that sort of— rebellion last time around. so that sort ofjeopardy with certain people who were _ sort ofjeopardy with certain people who were on keir starmer's front bench _ who were on keir starmer's front bench who— who were on keir starmer's front bench who feel incredibly strongly, they've _ bench who feel incredibly strongly, they've already displayed their strong — they've already displayed their strong pillars by going to the back benches _ strong pillars by going to the back benches so those sort of constrains the front _ benches so those sort of constrains the front bench rebellion some part. and then, _ the front bench rebellion some part. and then, finally, one of the big

arguments last time internally within— arguments last time internally within the labour party was that it could _ within the labour party was that it could really harm some people said, reatty _ could really harm some people said, reatty harm — could really harm some people said, really harm the labour party nationally with the voters. and i think— nationally with the voters. and i think the — nationally with the voters. and i think the view of keir starmer and his team — think the view of keir starmer and his team is — think the view of keir starmer and his team is a look at the opinion bolts _ his team is a look at the opinion polls have _ his team is a look at the opinion polls. have barely budge. these two by—elections this week by labour one on an— by—elections this week by labour one on an historically large swings, specifically in wellingborough. it has not — specifically in wellingborough. it has not budge the national opinion poll because they're not delaying their problems for specific mps a few specific seats but i think on the politics on how labour has responded to this they basically feel vindicated. responded to this they basically feelvindicated. it is responded to this they basically feel vindicated.— feel vindicated. it is really interesting _ feel vindicated. it is really interesting you _ feel vindicated. it is really interesting you say - feel vindicated. it is really interesting you say that i feel vindicated. it is really i interesting you say that and i feel vindicated. it is really - interesting you say that and i think they might have a bumpy couple of days over it but i think a lot of the boil has been lanced partly because people who are going to get up because people who are going to get up and go have got up and gone from the front bench. he is in the government position shifting a bit to be a bit tougher in its language towards israel. labour's lam edge has become a bit tougher towards israel, too. so many leaders in democracies around the world, our

politicians say serious, tough sounding things, trying to stop israel going further or going into raffle, for example. yet it does not appear to any of them that benjamin netanyahu was actually listening to the cause that they make so there is an interesting dynamic in how it has been handed in westminster and the kind of intrigue and division scottish labour and uk labour but actually the bigger context of this, met most mainstream politicians are on the same page so it does not tend to be a big rally in flag for a majority of voters. it is not to say that it does not matter and there are pockets where it is incredibly important but in most places it is not kind of thing that influences an electoral contest right now. there we are. electoral contest right now. there we are- the _ electoral contest right now. there we are. the by-elections - electoral contest right now. there we are. the by-elections that - electoral contest right now. therel we are. the by-elections that were we are. the by—elections that were with one more coming on the 29th of february. we were both moved, i think, to be on the new test on

saturday. i think, to be on the new test on saturda . ., think, to be on the new test on saturday-— think, to be on the new test on saturda . ., , ., , , , saturday. i thought you were visibly moved. i saturday. i thought you were visibly moved- i know _ saturday. i thought you were visibly moved. i know what _ saturday. i thought you were visibly moved. i know what i _ saturday. i thought you were visibly moved. i know what i felt. - saturday. i thought you were visibly moved. i know what i felt. yes, - moved. i know what i felt. yes, without question. she speaks powerfully about the terrible thing that happened to her. her husband killed at the hands of putin's henchmen. are you all right? how are you? i henchmen. are you all right? how are ou? . r , henchmen. are you all right? how are ou? . �* , . you? i am fine. because what happened _ you? i am fine. because what happened to _ you? i am fine. because what happened to my _ you? i am fine. because what happened to my husband, - you? i am fine. because what happened to my husband, it i you? i am fine. because what i happened to my husband, it was you? i am fine. because what - happened to my husband, it was in the uk _ happened to my husband, it was in the uk it— happened to my husband, it was in the uk it was— happened to my husband, it was in the uk. it was not— happened to my husband, it was in the uk. it was not an _ happened to my husband, it was in the uk. it was not an easy- happened to my husband, it was in the uk. it was not an easy process| the uk. it was not an easy process to get— the uk. it was not an easy process to get justice — the uk. it was not an easy process to getjustice but _ the uk. it was not an easy process to getjustice but i _ the uk. it was not an easy process to getjustice but i knew— the uk. it was not an easy process to getjustice but i knew i- the uk. it was not an easy process to getjustice but i knew i will- to getjustice but i knew i will have — to getjustice but i knew i will have a — to getjustice but i knew i will have a proper— to getjustice but i knew i will have a proper investigation. i to getjustice but i knew i will- have a proper investigation. navalny was poisoned — have a proper investigation. navalny was poisoned in _ have a proper investigation. navalny was poisoned in russia. _ have a proper investigation. navalny was poisoned in russia. now- have a proper investigation. navalny was poisoned in russia. now is- was poisoned in russia. now is kitted _ was poisoned in russia. now is kitted in— was poisoned in russia. now is killed in russia _ was poisoned in russia. now is killed in russia and _ was poisoned in russia. now is killed in russia and it- was poisoned in russia. now is killed in russia and it will- was poisoned in russia. now is killed in russia and it will be i killed in russia and it will be always— killed in russia and it will be always denied _ killed in russia and it will be always denied they - killed in russia and it will be always denied they did i killed in russia and it will be always denied they did it. i killed in russia and it will be i always denied they did it. and this is a very— always denied they did it. and this is a very difficult _ always denied they did it. and this is a very difficult protest _ always denied they did it. and this is a very difficult protest to - always denied they did it. and this is a very difficult protest to prove i is a very difficult protest to prove to be _ is a very difficult protest to prove to be to — is a very difficult protest to prove to be to understand _ is a very difficult protest to prove to be to understand russia i is a very difficult protest to prove to be to understand russia is i is a very difficult protest to prove to be to understand russia is notj is a very difficult protest to prove i to be to understand russia is not a law based — to be to understand russia is not a law based estate. _ to be to understand russia is not a law based estate.— to be to understand russia is not a law based estate. what is so moving is her determination _ law based estate. what is so moving is her determination that _ law based estate. what is so moving is her determination that the - is her determination that the situation must not be allowed to stand and she is not the only person who has that view and she talked, i

thought, so movingly about this community of people outside russia for is no longer safe to live inside russia but, as they watch on with the rest of the world, what can they do to try to press the rest of the world into action of some sort to try to hold that into account? so navalny deliberately went back to russia. �* . . ., ., ~ navalny deliberately went back to russia. . . , ., ., ,, . navalny deliberately went back to russia. . . , . , russia. and that is, i i look at my e-mails russia. and that is, i i look at my e-maits and _ russia. and that is, i i look at my e-mails and twitter— russia. and that is, i i look at my e-mails and twitter feeds, - russia. and that is, i i look at my e-mails and twitter feeds, that i russia. and that is, i i look at myj e-mails and twitter feeds, that is e—mails and twitter feeds, that is what everyone understands what he knew the risks. he was trying to get democracy on the map in russia and he is now dead. so one of those who has been talking to his widow was our guest this morning. svetlana. she ran against putin's key ally in belarus and, in fact, her husband is currently in prison for running against the president in 2020 and she said she'd had a shared experience with navalny�*s why. i wonder about your live day to day. in this way, i can understand her

and herfamily as in this way, i can understand her and her family as well. they have had the news can i ask you, do you fear that surrogate is dead? ianthem had the news can i ask you, do you fear that surrogate is dead? when i talk to her she _ fear that surrogate is dead? when i talk to her she still _ fear that surrogate is dead? when i talk to her she still hope _ fear that surrogate is dead? when i talk to her she still hope that - fear that surrogate is dead? when i talk to her she still hope that this i talk to her she still hope that this news _ talk to her she still hope that this news about her husband, was gossip. because _ news about her husband, was gossip. because we _ news about her husband, was gossip. because we all want to believe that our beloved sli. i want to believe that my— our beloved sli. i want to believe that my husband is alive because strong _ that my husband is alive because strong person. his morality is high but these — strong person. his morality is high but these gulag, these prisons are killing _ but these gulag, these prisons are killing people. in the last year he was kept — killing people. in the last year he was kept incommunicado and it means were not— was kept incommunicado and it means were not like _ was kept incommunicado and it means were not like to visit him, letters are not— were not like to visit him, letters are not delivered and i do not know if he is _ are not delivered and i do not know if he is alive — are not delivered and i do not know if he is alive. i tried to say what potiticians — if he is alive. i tried to say what politicians have heard that mike said do — politicians have heard that mike said do we need to educate ourselves in the _ said do we need to educate ourselves in the uk _ said do we need to educate ourselves in the uk that is a fabulous thing? she said _ in the uk that is a fabulous thing? she said yes. you can criticise your

leaders but you can change them. irate leaders but you can change them. we have a theme about voters telling us it is all rubbish. but we can change our minds and we have the power to make that change and when you hear from her, gf and people in similar situations, we spoke to others this morning and one, her husband is in captivity and he has been recently moved, she fears for his life in the way that we just heard there and she told me she has been sleeping with her phone beside for years. what goes through your mind when it rings? i goes through your mind when it rinus? ., . . , rings? i love that that is happening. _ rings? i love that that is happening. i— rings? i love that that is happening, i cannot i rings? i love that that is i happening, i cannot afford rings? i love that that is _ happening, i cannot afford breaking down. i cannot afford being afraid. i cannot afford just the normal human feeling of fear. i have you always fight that and step over it.

and so, yes, i am afraid that that is not important right now. continuing the fight is important. telling the stories of those people who are suffering from the regime is important. today people are getting arrested for laying flowers to the memorials of our victims of repression. so that situation is deteriorating, it seems, by the day. where _ deteriorating, it seems, by the day. where does — deteriorating, it seems, by the day. where does the story go now, do you think? _ where does the story go now, do you think? is _ where does the story go now, do you think? is it— where does the story go now, do you think? is it something that, david cameron— think? is it something that, david cameron has been saying they must be consequences but there are sanctions, overthere? on key rations~ — sanctions, over there? on key rations. �* ., , . rations. i'm not sure what the british government _ rations. i'm not sure what the british government can - rations. i'm not sure what the british government can do. i rations. i'm not sure what the i british government can do. that is the thing. — british government can do. that is the thing. isn't _ british government can do. that is the thing, isn't it? _ british government can do. that is the thing, isn't it? the _ british government can do. that is the thing, isn't it? the uk- the thing, isn't it? the uk government— the thing, isn't it? the uk government and - the thing, isn't it? the uk government and the i the thing, isn't it? the ukl government and the west, the thing, isn't it? the uk- government and the west, more broadly. — government and the west, more broadly, now— government and the west, more broadly. now it _ government and the west, more broadly, now it does _ government and the west, more broadly, now it does have - government and the west, more broadly, now it does have a i government and the west, more broadly, now it does have a very| broadly, now it does have a very aggressive — broadly, now it does have a very aggressive posture _ broadly, now it does have a very aggressive posture towards i broadly, now it does have a very i aggressive posture towards russia. ways in _ aggressive posture towards russia. ways in which — aggressive posture towards russia. ways in which that _ aggressive posture towards russia. ways in which that might _ aggressive posture towards russia. ways in which that might be - ways in which that might be tightened. _ ways in which that might be tightened, i'm _ ways in which that might be tightened, i'm sure - ways in which that might be tightened, i'm sure they- ways in which that might be| tightened, i'm sure they will ways in which that might be - tightened, i'm sure they will be looking — tightened, i'm sure they will be looking for— tightened, i'm sure they will be looking for those. _ tightened, i'm sure they will be looking for those. to _ tightened, i'm sure they will be looking for those. to my- tightened, i'm sure they will be looking for those. to my mind, | tightened, i'm sure they will be - looking for those. to my mind, where does the _ looking for those. to my mind, where does the story— looking for those. to my mind, where does the story go— looking for those. to my mind, where does the story go now? _

looking for those. to my mind, where does the story go now? it _ looking for those. to my mind, where does the story go now? it is - looking for those. to my mind, where does the story go now? it is really- does the story go now? it is really the question— does the story go now? it is really the question of— does the story go now? it is really the question of the _ does the story go now? it is really the question of the us _ does the story go now? it is really| the question of the us presidential election— the question of the us presidential election because, _ the question of the us presidential election because, if— the question of the us presidential election because, if donald - the question of the us presidential election because, if donald trump| election because, if donald trump becomes— election because, if donald trump becomes president, _ election because, if donald trump becomes president, he _ election because, if donald trump becomes president, he almost- becomes president, he almost certainty— becomes president, he almost certainty witt _ becomes president, he almost certainly will have _ becomes president, he almost certainly will have a _ becomes president, he almost certainly will have a fairly - certainly will have a fairly different _ certainly will have a fairly different attitude - certainly will have a fairly different attitude to - certainly will have a fairly. different attitude to russia certainly will have a fairly - different attitude to russia to the one that — different attitude to russia to the one that the _ different attitude to russia to the one that the us _ different attitude to russia to the one that the us administration i different attitude to russia to the one that the us administration of joe biden— one that the us administration of joe biden has— one that the us administration of joe biden has and _ one that the us administration of joe biden has and what— one that the us administration of joe biden has and what that - one that the us administration of. joe biden has and what that means for the _ joe biden has and what that means for the sort — joe biden has and what that means for the sort of— joe biden has and what that means for the sort of broader— joe biden has and what that means for the sort of broader western - for the sort of broader western front, — for the sort of broader western front, the — for the sort of broader western front, the nato_ for the sort of broader western front, the nato fund, _ for the sort of broader western . front, the nato fund, essentially, against _ front, the nato fund, essentially, against russia, _ front, the nato fund, essentially, against russia, it _ front, the nato fund, essentially, against russia, it will— front, the nato fund, essentially, against russia, it will be - against russia, it will be fascinating. _ against russia, it will be fascinating. and - against russia, it will be fascinating. and so- against russia, it will be fascinating. and so are i against russia, it will be . fascinating. and so are you against russia, it will be - fascinating. and so are you know, the question— fascinating. and so are you know, the question of— fascinating. and so are you know, the question of whether _ fascinating. and so are you know, the question of whether the - fascinating. and so are you know, the question of whether the west| the question of whether the west moves _ the question of whether the west moves further _ the question of whether the west moves further against _ the question of whether the west moves further against putin, - moves further against putin, solidifies— moves further against putin, solidifies further— moves further against putin, solidifies further against - moves further against putin, i solidifies further against putin moves further against putin, - solidifies further against putin as a resutt— solidifies further against putin as a result of— solidifies further against putin as a result of this _ solidifies further against putin as a result of this is _ solidifies further against putin as a result of this is really- solidifies further against putin as a result of this is really one - solidifies further against putin as a result of this is really one that| a result of this is really one that will be _ a result of this is really one that will be answered _ a result of this is really one that will be answered in _ a result of this is really one that will be answered in november. a result of this is really one that| will be answered in november in places— will be answered in november in places like — will be answered in november in places like minnesota, _ will be answered in november in| places like minnesota, wisconsin will be answered in november in - places like minnesota, wisconsin and michigan _ places like minnesota, wisconsin and michigan and — places like minnesota, wisconsin and michigan. and before _ michigan. and before then, perhaps, there may finally be a resolution of whether— there may finally be a resolution of whether congress _ there may finally be a resolution of whether congress ever _ there may finally be a resolution of whether congress ever signs - there may finally be a resolution of whether congress ever signs for. there may finally be a resolution ofi whether congress ever signs for the latest _ whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons _ whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons to _ whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons to go _ whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons to go to _ whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons to go to ukraine - whether congress ever signs for the latest weapons to go to ukraine buti latest weapons to go to ukraine but literally— latest weapons to go to ukraine but titeratty people _ latest weapons to go to ukraine but literally people are _ latest weapons to go to ukraine but literally people are saying - latest weapons to go to ukraine but literally people are saying they've l literally people are saying they've run out _ literally people are saying they've run out of —

literally people are saying they've run out of munitions. _ literally people are saying they've run out of munitions.— run out of munitions. american politicians _ run out of munitions. american politicians argue _ run out of munitions. american politicians argue over— run out of munitions. american politicians argue over whether l run out of munitions. american - politicians argue over whether they should keep funding the ukrainian war effort so that is a story we will be keeping an eye on, of course, cross the bbc but tomorrow i think there will be a statement in parliament eitherfrom think there will be a statement in parliament either from the prime minister or foreign secretary but of course you would have to do that in the house of lords but about what, if anything, the uk might say as a consequence to putting up what has happened to alexei navalny. flan consequence to putting up what has happened to alexei navalny. cant consequence to putting up what has happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something — happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that _ happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that is _ happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that is not _ happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that is not on _ happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that is not on the - happened to alexei navalny. can i go to something that is not on the news| to something that is not on the news agenda but has been on henry's agenda but has been on henry's agenda and he did not complete the thought last week that i've been obsessed with david cameron's role that i brought that up before that we can be said subplot, david cameron has not really been wheeled out. can we have the subplot, henry, about david cameron? are you implying that he has not been held back? ., ., ., . . ., ~ back? no, no, not at all. i do think it is very striking _ back? no, no, not at all. i do think it is very striking that _ back? no, no, not at all. i do think it is very striking that when - back? no, no, not at all. i do think it is very striking that when i - back? no, no, not at all. i do think it is very striking that when i was i it is very striking that when i was having _ it is very striking that when i was having conversations with people and government, in the immediate aftermath of them bringing david cameron— aftermath of them bringing david cameron back they said there is too

great _ cameron back they said there is too great prizes for them to do what you -et great prizes for them to do what you get a _ great prizes for them to do what you get a former prime minister with extensive — get a former prime minister with extensive experience in foreign affairs — extensive experience in foreign affairs to— extensive experience in foreign affairs to be the foreign secretary. cieartv. _ affairs to be the foreign secretary. clearly, that is a great price for rishi _ clearly, that is a great price for rishi sunak, administratively and he has been _ rishi sunak, administratively and he has been doing, i think when no one can say— has been doing, i think when no one can say is— has been doing, i think when no one can say is been anything other than massively— can say is been anything other than massively energetic on the world stage _ massively energetic on the world stage foot of his travelling a lot and travelling he is in the falkland istands _ and travelling he is in the falkland istands at — and travelling he is in the falkland islands at the moment. the other thing _ islands at the moment. the other thing that— islands at the moment. the other thing that people said as he will also be — thing that people said as he will also be a — thing that people said as he will also be a very powerful voice arguing — also be a very powerful voice arguing for government policy on the airways _ arguing for government policy on the airways across. i don't think that is happened very much was a piece made _ is happened very much was a piece made one — is happened very much was a piece made one appearance but generally, he has _ made one appearance but generally, he has confined himself to very controlled moments where he will only be _ controlled moments where he will only be speaking about the admittedly extremely important business of his being foreign secretary but we have not heard him coming _ secretary but we have not heard him coming in _ secretary but we have not heard him coming in now, to by—election defeats— coming in now, to by—election defeats in— coming in now, to by—election defeats in the way that actually previous — defeats in the way that actually previous foreign secretaries... | previous foreign secretaries... i can previous foreign secretaries... i can imagine how that car might have

done. you fancy going on to defend one of the worst ever performances in the by—election? sorry, i am in the falklands. in the by-election? sorry, i am in the falklands.— the falklands. former foreign secretaries _ the falklands. former foreign secretaries might _ the falklands. former foreign secretaries might have - the falklands. former foreign secretaries might have had i the falklands. former foreign secretaries might have had toi the falklands. former foreign i secretaries might have had to do that _ secretaries might have had to do that. ., ., ., secretaries might have had to do that. ., . ,u , that. you too are the boffins. i thou~ht, that. you too are the boffins. i thought. i _ that. you too are the boffins. i thought, i have _ that. you too are the boffins. i thought, i have been - that. you too are the boffins. i thought, i have been saying i that. you too are the boffins. i | thought, i have been saying on that. you too are the boffins. i i thought, i have been saying on this newscast, watch for him being wheeled out in this role. the deputy prime minister in all but name. i prime minister in all but name. i think, in the subplot, i do think it is very interesting that you are obsessed with it. in are subplot i think there is a difference and i'm speculating on the basis of conversations i had around the time, think there was a bit of a, maybe not a disagreement but a difference in understanding because of people around david cameron's expectation was that they were perhaps dear media when he was abroad, around the issues he was focusing on land he was not going to beam a committed, useful rent a gob to defend her government that is in difficulty but

there is a suggestion it comes to an election campaign you will be a very useful, polished gob on stick tory hq with the voters except that, of course, is a different question. however,... it sounds a something from thomas the tank engine, 1038 they message. finally, here in the falklands we get to be in the news for a positive point of view. third cameron is dropping in to see the penguins and paying his respects to the liberation memorial. i wonder if you do a selfie with the maggie bust and chat to hers and the government put up an interesting week ahead. tell us, after the visit, what you made a bet or not the penguins welcomed him with open wings. i made a bet or not the penguins welcomed him with open wings. i want a icture of welcomed him with open wings. i want a picture of the — welcomed him with open wings. i want a picture of the penguins. _ welcomed him with open wings. i want a picture of the penguins. i— welcomed him with open wings. i want a picture of the penguins. i wanted i a picture of the penguins. i wanted icture of a picture of the penguins. i wanted picture of this _ a picture of the penguins. i wanted picture of this user _ a picture of the penguins. i wanted picture of this user whether - picture of this user whether

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the campaign because he would be prime _ the campaign because he would be prime minister if labour win while also trying — prime minister if labour win while also trying to show that he has a strong _ also trying to show that he has a strong team around him. you'll probably— strong team around him. you'll probably want to prioritise his shadow— probably want to prioritise his shadow cabinet rather than voices from _ shadow cabinet rather than voices from the _ shadow cabinet rather than voices from the past. shadow cabinet rather than voices from the past-— from the past. talking of which, dou~las from the past. talking of which, douglas alexander _ from the past. talking of which, douglas alexander standing i from the past. talking of which, douglas alexander standing in l from the past. talking of which, i douglas alexander standing in again as an mp and he was on the show this morning. somebody wanting to come back to politics after having, you know, whatever it is, ten years away from being an mp. some retreads, as they are called, to the election. that will give us nerds another set of statistics to the cat with glee. many retreads will there be? how many people will there be standing down? tonnes and tonnes and tonnes and tonnes. what statistical fun we have to look forward to. perhaps that should be the end of the day's newscast. ~ . ., , ., that should be the end of the day's newscast. . . ., , ., that should be the end of the day's newscast. ~ . ., , ., . newscast. what do you think? i want to sa that newscast. what do you think? i want to say that i — newscast. what do you think? i want to say that i have _ newscast. what do you think? i want to say that i have another _ newscast. what do you think? i want to say that i have another retreaded | to say that i have another retreaded view which is that we, the british voters, seem to love politicians when they leave. because we suddenly 90, when they leave. because we suddenly go, oh, yes. they weren't that bad. there is nothing quite like someone

who says i've done my best and i'm going to go and play cricket. fir go going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle _ going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle go — going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle go strictly _ going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle go strictly or - going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle go strictly or any i going to go and play cricket. or go to the jungle go strictly or any of those other things. you're absolutely right. i am probably wrong. 0ur absolutely right. i am probably wrong. our dedicated newscasters, our friends, wrong. our dedicated newscasters, ourfriends, thank wrong. our dedicated newscasters, our friends, thank you for being with us on sunday. goodbye. goodbye. goodbye.

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hello and welcome. i'm samantha simmonds. we start with some breaking news. a 42—year—old woman has been arrested and is accused of murder following the deaths of three children in bristol. police say they made a welfare check at blaise walk in sea mills overnight on sunday. police believe this was an isolated incident with no further risk to the wider community. officers will remain at the scene to reassure members of the public. we are trying to get more information on this story. the police made a welfare check at sea mills overnight on saturday. with more on this is our

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