hello, i'm sarah campbell. you're watching the context on bbc news. the trial of the armour on the set of rust where actor alec baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer has begun. we will be talking everything to do with artificial intelligence very shortly but before all that, time for a full round—up of the sport. sport, and for a full round—up from the bbc sport centre, here's gavin. fast bowler ollie robinson is back in the england side for the first time since the third ashes test last summer. he's one of two changes for the fourth test against india, which starts in ranchi on friday. robinson comes in for mark wood,

while off spinner shoaib bashir is recalled for leg spinner rehan ahmed. the wicket could cause some problems for batters, with large cracks already appearing. we do like to look at the pitch two days out and one day out because that's how we like to... you want to give yourself some idea or indication about what you think is going to give you the best chance. looking at that, there is going to be of assistance to this man. we give our opinion but that does not mean that we are going in with too many preconceived ideas was of the pitch could be flat as a pancake, who knows? but if it is, we will adapt to that but if it does more than we think, we will adapt to that as well. in the europa league playoffs, ac milan are into last 16 of the competition. they lost to rennes, but won 5—3 on aggregate to go through. benfica are also through, but it's going the distance as freiburg beat lens in extra time.

and qarabag through in extra time. four other games kicking off later. all the other updates you can see on your screen. the celtic and former england goalkeeperjoe hart is to retire at end of season. he won two premier league titles with manchester city and was capped 75 times for his country. he has also won the scottish premiership twice with celtic. he'll be 37 when his three—year contract expires in the summer. manager brendan rodgers says he will be a "huge miss to the game". the london marathon will be the first in the world to offer equal prize money for wheelchair and able—bodied athletes this year. all winners in the elite races will win just over £a0,000. eight—time winner david weir will be taking part in his 25th london marathon in a row in april. the london marathon is where my heart is, it's where i started as an eight—year—old, and it was the first race i saw on tv in the 1980s, it inspired me to get into this fantastic sport. but, you know, at an early age

you knew that it wasn't a level playing field between able—bodied and disabled athletics, and now this is just a step forward in the right direction, i'm just so proud that it's london marathon that has taken this step. the six nations resumes this weekend, and england have made five changes to the side that beat wales ahead of their calcutta cup clash with scotland in edinburgh on saturday. northampton fullback george furbank has won a surprise recall to the side in place of freddie steward, who drops out of the matchday squad entirely. ollie lawrence returns from injury in place of fraser dingwall, while there are recalls for danny care, dan cole and ellis genge. blair kinghorn will start at fullback for scotland in that match, one of the three changes to gregor townsend's side, along with jamie ritchie and kyle steyn. scotland are aiming for a fourth successive win over their oldest rivals, something they haven't done for almost 130 years. and ciaran frawley will start at fullback in place of injured hugo keenan for grand slam champions ireland against wales. that's the only change from the side

that began with victory over france, but there are seven changes in all from the line—up that thumped italy last time out. it's frawley�*s first six nations start, and it's a challenge his coach believes he is ready for. we started the campaign with him over there in portugal, training as a 15, so it's very natural for him to fill that position and he deserves a chance in that position. his first six nations start, exciting for him. he has always been in and around the squad and pushing, and it's a big week for him, you know? it will be a test of his temperament, but he is playing in a good side. i am sure he will take his chance. and that's all the sport for now. back with more later on, see you then. lovely, thanks, gavin. you are watching the context. it is time for our our new weekly segment, ai decoded.

we have a lot to get through. we begin with the financial times, and the godfather of artificial intelligence who has issued a stark warning about the technology in a lecture at the univeristy of oxford. the washington post says top military officials at the pentagon are meeting with al experts to accelerate the discovery and implementation of the most useful military applications. meanwhile, on the giant freakin robot science website, the university of cambridge is proposing using remote kill—switches and lock—outs to mitigate a potential ai apocalypse. creative publication ad age argues when it comes to creativity, having a human touch is irreplaceable and human traits like empathy and strategic thinking are irreplaceable. upworthy focusses on artificial intelligence unlocking our past and how college students are using al to decode an ancient scroll burned in mount vesuvius.

some of these texts, they say, could completely rewrite the history of key periods of the ancient world. and finally in the independent, chatgpt apparently suffered a recent breakdown, with users complaining the ai system started speaking nonsense and was sending out alarming messages. isaid i said there was a lot to get to. with me is priya lakhani, who's ceo of century tech, an artificial intelligence education technology company that develops ai—powered learning tools. hello to you. look it all your papers. you are good to go. first, let's go back to the financial times. how fatalistic should be be on al? this is a speech byjeffrey henson. why should we care about what he says? he henson. why should we care about what he says?— henson. why should we care about what he says? he is the godfather of

ai, so he essentially _ what he says? he is the godfather of ai, so he essentially worked - what he says? he is the godfather of ai, so he essentially worked with - ai, so he essentially worked with teams and invented some of the key techniques and architecture that allows us to have artificial intelligence in the way that we do today. so we should listen to him. he is a very serious and intelligent individual. he has done this oxford lecture and is in the first time he has given this warning. his issue and it really bold statement, he said it was a strong claim, he thinks these ai models like chatgpt, all these large language model to create generated ai, they have this level of understanding. that's a really big claim because what makes people say is is a lot of pattern recognition and take a lot of data and all the data from the internet and all the data from the internet and threw it through these models and threw it through these models and algorithms and it shoots out output. the output with al as always for mobility, the ability of this word at the highest of being the correct word. he is saying they are starting to display a level of understanding and that's quite a scary proposition. they are notjust statistical pattern recognition...

they are kind of learning? the? statistical pattern recognition... they are kind of learning? they are learnina. they are kind of learning? they are learning- in — they are kind of learning? they are learning. in this _ they are kind of learning? they are learning. in this article, _ they are kind of learning? they are learning. in this article, john - learning. in this article, john thornhill who was in my favourite writers, he talked noam chomsky and comparing genetics to machines it like inherent understanding of language, the issue is, you cannot ignore what henson is saying but at the same time, i have to say that i'm on the side of people who are saying how does this actually work with when we get to one of the later articles, you will see actually how some of these models can spit out nonsense and they are not quite human. but what's really important are the warnings that are true, he is warning about essentially raising haywood develop as a technology because this could be a massive job displacement, disinformation and deep fake. which in every segment of ai, we have covered this and then he says what if ai involved with these intentions to control? to give you a little bit of context, there was a

research paper by a group who simulated the othello board game and all they did with a gpt was trained with a moose of the game with a did not give the gpt the rules of the board game. and actually what they found in the end was that through this bit of research, the gpt understood the board game, what it was light and the rules. so there is an argument that eventually the source of language models could understand the rules of the world and world order and we go to that really fantastic global inductive reasoning test. so you can say if it walks like a duck in swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. so that's where you get this huge issue of people say does it matter if it understands or it simulates an understanding? so many big issues. let's move the washington post because this is military, and one of the things here was governments putting profits before safety. when that comes to

something like military, i think everybody�*s alarm bells start ringing. everybody's alarm bells start rinauin. , ., ., ., ringing. they do, although the washington — ringing. they do, although the washington post _ ringing. they do, although the washington post to _ ringing. they do, although the washington post to get - ringing. they do, although the washington post to get this i ringing. they do, although the i washington post to get this piece about the pentagon talking to tech industry leaders and say how can we leverage ai in the future but safely? but actually what ai is fantastic at doing is analysing a lot of information faster than human capabilities. what they are initially talking about is intelligence gathering. so you have conversations that have a transcript of what people are saying and for a human to go through and analyse a lot of that, a vast amount of that, takes an enormous amount of resource and effort so can we leverage artificial intelligence for those purposes? suffer intelligence analysis. then they have looked at training officers looking we trained members of the military in terms of wartime scenarios although two weeks ago we covered a story with christian on this programme about the daily mail and then say they had a terrifying study with a looked it ai large leg which models what they were doing and all of them went to

war and some of them nuclear pretty quickly. so the ai is clearly not there and that was well recognised during this particular conference, but there are efficiencies that can be gained. and they are not going to stop and it's like nuclear. do you want nuclear weapons in the world at all ever? know him of the problem is there is an arms race, a race or countries to build ai quicker than the other country over there... i thought it was quite interesting in the article where it talks about on tuesday the pentagon began meetings with tech industry leaders talking about al. surely, normally the military are out at the front and are using technology for everyone is even caught up. i are using technology for everyone is even caught lip-— are using technology for everyone is even caught up-_ even caught up. i think what that is from his letter— even caught up. i think what that is from his letter in _ even caught up. i think what that is from his letter in the _ even caught up. i think what that is from his letter in the article, - from his letter in the article, pretty sure it's not began meeting but however openai really interestingly removed restrictions from its page only injanuary for the military so possible they are having these meetings there are will vying for military contracts which arejuicy in huge. the british were

there and said we will develop our own large language model solution and our own ai solution because we have concerns that our staffers my other wife he tended to put in a very sensitive data into these other models that are operated and owned by third parties and that's not say. move on to the article from giant freakin robot. artificial intelligence apocalypse kill switches could save humanity. nothing like a dramatic headline. it is a really dramatic headline and talking essentially about having a switch that is fitted into the underlying hardware percent what's really important about this if you have these three key components to have these three key components to have artificial intelligence. we have artificial intelligence. we have all these data, the algorithms, and then you have compute power. the compute power used to execute the algorithms and execute the models but the compute power, you have chips. so you see the share price rocket and computer trips are trading anywhere between 20000 and

$40,000 a chip and they are going through a design fabrication and testing phase and distributed to data centre so you cannot have ai without them. the paper is brilliant. this paper is brilliant and what they are saying is they are saying it's actually quite difficult to regulate the software producers and those developing the algorithms and those developing the algorithms and create the training data because they could be anyone. but actually they could be anyone. but actually the supply of ai ships is highly inelastic. they're only a handful of parties in the world that do that, so actually if we create governance models over the producers of the chips, then you have at least a point of governance that could be pretty critical for policymakers if you want to have visibility to develop the ai and if you want to influence who can actually create ai and you can stop chips being given to various parties where you think they might use it for nefarious purposes. then you can enforce standards so if you see rogue applet somewhere in the world, you can

trace the output to the ai model, the ai model to the data centre in essentially switch off... the ai model to the data centre in essentially switch off. . ._ essentially switch off... then switch it off? _ essentially switch off... then switch it off? that _ essentially switch off... then switch it off? that is - essentially switch off... then switch it off? that is a - essentially switch off... then l switch it off? that is a brilliant suggestion _ switch it off? that is a brilliant suggestion that _ switch it off? that is a brilliant suggestion that it _ switch it off? that is a brilliant suggestion that it requires - switch it off? that is a brilliant suggestion that it requires a l suggestion that it requires a compute provider to have something similar to banking providers like your customer checks so the idea if your customer checks so the idea if you could have that traceability. for anyone interested in regulation and government who has not read that paper, it is brilliant and i recommend that they do. paper, it is brilliant and i recommend that the do. ., recommend that they do. there we go. that is really — recommend that they do. there we go. that is really fascinating, _ that is really fascinating, upworthy, the concept of a scroll that was burned to a crisp almost at mount vesuvius 2000 years ago but now using ai people are being able to decipher what's written. it's quite astonishing. it is astonishing. _ quite astonishing. it is astonishing. using - quite astonishing. it 3 astonishing. using computervision, astonishing. using computer vision, sd astonishing. using computer vision, 3d scanning and machine learning to be able to essentially see virtually, a form of this, they virtually, a form of this, they virtually unwrapped the scroll and

it's brilliant. and you can see it in the scroll challenge, the vesuvius girl challenge, then the idea is the ink is actually invisible to the human eye so they use the scanning techniques. they read using ai the actual text, and then these teams are asked to help decipher them. and it was this amazing person who pioneered all of this, and they had some of the ai models with and they had a small team so by launching a challenge, if you lots a challenge to get people involved and lots more data and then actually you can do a lot more. so phenomenal and this is the inflection of archaeology and artificial intelligence. so for all these able to have ever given a ai of this programme, i've never really talked about archaeology and it just phenomenal. talked about archaeology and it 'ust phenomenal.— phenomenal. believes that you started here. _ phenomenal. believes that you started here. but— phenomenal. believes that you started here. but it _ phenomenal. believes that you started here. but it is - phenomenal. believes that you i started here. but it is incredible. such a futuristic thing, artificial intelligence, but allowing us to learn about our past and descendents and it is a fascinating... we learn about our past and descendents and it is a fascinating. . ._ and it is a fascinating... we will uncover about _ and it is a fascinating... we will uncover about philosophy - and it is a fascinating... we will uncover about philosophy and l and it is a fascinating... we willj uncover about philosophy and it and it is a fascinating... we will- uncover about philosophy and it will

be mind blowing, i'm sure. let’s be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's move on to _ be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's move on to ad — be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's move on to ad age. _ be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's move on to ad age. we - be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's move on to ad age. we talked l be mind blowing, i'm sure. let's - move on to ad age. we talked about this already- — move on to ad age. we talked about this already. while _ move on to ad age. we talked about this already. while the _ move on to ad age. we talked about this already. while the human touch| this already. while the human touch is irreplaceable _ this already. while the human touch is irreplaceable and _ this already. while the human touch is irreplaceable and if _ this already. while the human touch is irreplaceable and if you _ this already. while the human touch is irreplaceable and if you look - is irreplaceable and if you look a bit of a motivational tool... bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people — bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people don't _ bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people don't worry, _ bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people don't worry, ai - bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people don't worry, ai will. bit of a motivational tool. .. saying two people don't worry, ai will not take your advertising jobs. we will still need to read it but i'm not sure i was convinced. you should not be this is a lovey—dovey piece and i'm not sure whether i love it or love it. very sweet whoever wrote it, but all over social channels use the ai will replace humans but humans using ai will replace humans without ai. this piece is all about your human touch being irreplaceable when it comes to marketing textbook you may be a little bit practical here? that's true but i think in the future we create that human connection and it will probably be what makes very different but in the moment about not replacing you as a marketer, there are many marketing jobs and i'm sure will still be out there but they will also be many that won't because ai the moment, when you can increase global value

by $15 trillion by 2030, increase gdp globally by 28%, what companies are doing is they are saying can i use these tools to automate and replace, to augment my labour force to make them more efficient and to personalise? when it affects your operating expenditure and you can reduce your labour costs, then that is what some companies will do. so there is some truth to the article and i have some sympathy to it, but it was written by a bran creative agency to marketers who i'm assuming are there clients of large companies. so it's a very sweet article but ijust don't think... essentially saying you still have your human creativity but actually ai can enhance it is what the article is saying and there is some truth in that.— article is saying and there is some truth in that. some although jeffrey hinton might— truth in that. some although jeffrey hinton might disagree. _ truth in that. some although jeffrey hinton might disagree. let's - truth in that. some although jeffrey hinton might disagree. let's finish l hinton might disagree. let's finish with chatgpt, — hinton might disagree. let's finish with chatgpt, which _ hinton might disagree. let's finish with chatgpt, which are _ hinton might disagree. let's finish with chatgpt, which are made - hinton might disagree. let's finish i with chatgpt, which are made people who don't know much about artificial intelligence probably the one thing that will literally heard about

mainly in the news is chatgpt. it has apparently had quite a melt down and sending messages that are alarming to users. this is from the independent. alarming to users. this is from the independent-— alarming to users. this is from the indeendent. �* ., , ., , independent. began sending out loads of tibberish independent. began sending out loads of gibberish to — independent. began sending out loads of gibberish to people _ independent. began sending out loads of gibberish to people and _ independent. began sending out loads of gibberish to people and at - of gibberish to people and at u think in the past it was being really sassy. he can be bugs in the system, errors in the training data or issues with the algorithm or what people were calling the temperature so if he said the temperature of the models to be more random... what models to be more random... what does that mean, _ models to be more random... what does that mean, temperature? you models to be more random... what- does that mean, temperature? you set essentially the — does that mean, temperature? you set essentially the belief _ does that mean, temperature? you set essentially the belief of _ does that mean, temperature? you set essentially the belief of the _ does that mean, temperature? you set essentially the belief of the model i essentially the belief of the model to be a bit more random and therefore it becomes a super creative and you can set that to a point were actually espouse a load of nonsense. did this and goes back to saint to humans do this if it's understanding the world in understanding the world in understanding how we operate, it's already been traded out there for so long, would we do that if our brains were intact? sojust a long, would we do that if our brains were intact? so just a few hours ago, hot off the press, but google jim and i disabled the ability for images of people to be created on

google jim images of people to be created on googlejim and i because we saw the last 24—48 hours it was generating misleading images of people from different races in terms of historical context. you can be and this is all about training data and about the algorithms and then about the output and mathematical highly. but at the same time, i have to heed the advice from jeffrey hinton because he knows what he talking about in many senses that debate will continue, the hottest question in the field of the moment. let’s in the field of the moment. let's leave it on _ in the field of the moment. let's leave it on the _ in the field of the moment. let's leave it on the hottest _ in the field of the moment. let's leave it on the hottest question, a good place to leave it and thank you so much. we are out of time. that's it. we are out of time. we will do this again same time next week. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. bbc news, bringing you different stories from across the uk. the decision to build an incinerator here has upset a lot of people. local residents have protested about the plans, saying it will cause pollution in a built—up area, and a total of five local councils across cambridgeshire and norfolk oppose them, too.

despite this, the government has approved plans for the incinerator to be built on the algores industrial estate. the company behind the plans, mvv environment, says the facility, which would be one of the biggest in europe, would burn up to 625,000 tonnes of non—recyclable household, commercial and industrial waste each year. this could generate more than 50 million watts of electricity and up to 30 million watts of steam heat. this project will help a government that's under pressure to provide energy security and reduce landfill, but it once again highlights that there is often a conflict between national needs and the impact on local communities. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. welcome back. the trial of the chief weapons—handler of the film rust has now begun after actor alec baldwin fatally shot

a cinematographer in 2021. hannah gutierrez—reed was in charge of weapons on the film set. she's accused of involuntary manslaughter and evidence—tampering charges relating to the death of halyna hutchins. let's bring in our corrrespondent emma vardy. hello to you. can he tell us what's been heard in court, in the first day of this trial?— day of this trial? that's right. this was a — day of this trial? that's right. this was a case _ day of this trial? that's right. this was a case which - day of this trial? that's right. | this was a case which shocked hollywood when it happened in 2021. alec baldwin was the actor who was rehearsing onset, holding a pistol in this western movie which went off, killing halyna hutchins. two of the big questions in this case had been did he pull the trigger and crucially for this particular trial why did live ammunition end up onset at all? this is of the trial of alec baldwin and that is to come in due

course with this at the trial of hannah gutierrez—reed, the armour onset. she is a young girl, 24 when this happened, now 26, standing trial but in her defence today, it's been said that she had plenty of experience with that she had family ties to the movie industry. her father was a well—known armour and hollywood, that she knew what she was doing. but the allegation she is facing is very serious as of the prosecution has painted her out to be somebody who was quite careless and did not carry out the right checks. they have painted this picture of there being a mix between live ammunition that was in her personal possession and the blanks, the demi— rounds it was supposed to be used in alec baldwin �*s got all set. and because he threw mixed up, and ended up being the case in this rehearsal, that gun went off in a life bullet was fired which hit halyna hutchins killing her and also if the director too. today we have heard the prosecution and defence set out these two differing pictures of what's been hurt and we are just

now starting to hear from one of the first police officers who was on the scene. somebody who had thejob first police officers who was on the scene. somebody who had the job of dealing with this chaotic picture in front of him and approaching alec baldwin in the very first instance to talk about what happened. you mentioned that the fact that alec baldwin's trial is to come and this is a separate trial. he is not charged in this particular trial. but this was such a huge story of a huge global interest and i wonder what it's been like in court and whether there is a real globalfocus there today. fin whether there is a real global focus there today-— there today. on a human level, it's been distressing _ there today. on a human level, it's been distressing because _ there today. on a human level, it's been distressing because we i there today. on a human level, it's been distressing because we have. been distressing because we have been distressing because we have been shown footage of the cinematographer halyna hutchins, really her final moments a lie. cinematographer halyna hutchins, really herfinal moments a lie. she is on the floor in this chapel and being attended to by medics and she is still alive at that point but she later died. so on one level, it's just a terrible human tragedy was that when it comes to the movie industry, of course this brought big

questions about safety on film sets and how on earth live ammunition ended up onset. and of course for an actor of the profile of alec but would be facing an involuntary manslaughter charge is great many big headlines since that happened. he was initially charged with involuntary manslaughter in those little drop of that he was recharged further down the line because the gun he was holding was sent off for furtherforensic gun he was holding was sent off for further forensic testing. so gun he was holding was sent off for furtherforensic testing. so he is and will be facing a trial in the months to come as things stand at the moment, but clearly all eyes now on the armour hannah gutierrez—reed to see which way the jury decides on her case because that clearly could have some bearing on the fate that may lie ahead for alec baldwin. thank you for that update. let's update you on one of the stories from this hour. president biden has met with a wife and daughter of the opposition russian

leader alexei navalny in san francisco. these pictures release for the white house in the us is poised to announce major sanctions against russia after the death of alexei navalny. mr bob spoke to reporters. alexei navalny. mr bob spoke to re orters. , alexei navalny. mr bob spoke to reorters. , ., ., reporters. this morning i had the honour of meeting _ reporters. this morning i had the honour of meeting with _ reporters. this morning i had the honour of meeting with alexei i honour of meeting with alexei navalny�*s wife and daughter. to state the obvious, he was made incredible courage it is amazing how his wife and daughter are emulating that. we are going to be announcing the sanctions against vladimir putin, who is responsible for his death, tomorrow. and the one thing i've made clear make clear to me is that she is going to continue to fight vladimir putin all of the way. not letting up, thank you. president joe biden they're — not letting up, thank you. president joe biden they're speaking - not letting up, thank you. president joe biden they're speaking a - not letting up, thank you. president joe biden they're speaking a little i joe biden they're speaking a little earlier. do you stay with us and we have got plenty more to come at the top of the hour.

hello there. well, during the day today, we've seen much colder weather move in from the west. we've swapped the mild south—westerly winds that we've seen over recent weeks, really, and swapped them with much colder north—westerly winds. hence the drop in temperatures. it's even been cold enough to see some snow return to the scottish mountains. that's not something we've seen very much of over recent weeks. the drop in temperatures, then, has been widespread and really sharp. yesterday, you might remember, rhyl was the warmest place in the country at 15 degrees. this afternoon's temperature has been hovering more around 7 celsius, really. the radar picture still picks up a band of rain clearing its way eastwards and we've got plenty of showers working into western areas of the uk, with those north—westerly winds feeding the showers in. so, during this evening and overnight, showers will continue to come and go across western areas. cold enough for some snow up over the scottish mountains — above 400 metres elevation, for the most part. the winds keep the frost at bay for many areas,

but where we do see the winds fall that bit lighter, particularly in parts of scotland, well, there will be some areas of frost. aberdeen getting down to —4. so a cold start to the day on friday, certainly a lot colder a morning that we've been used to for a good while now. plenty of sunshine for eastern scotland, central and eastern england, eastern wales and eastern counties of northern ireland to start the day. showers get going in the west quickly and the showers become widespread through the course of the day, some of them with a bit of hail and thunder mixed in, and cold enough for some snow up over the scottish mountains — again, mostly above 400 metres elevation. for the weekend, well, there's probably a drier picture overall, fewer showers around. still a risk of some showers, though, probably the greatest risk across southern counties of england. a few morning mist patches, quite a widespread frost, and then through the afternoon, in the sunshine, we're looking at temperatures of around 8 or 9 degrees celsius, which is quite close to average for the time of year. showers return to northern ireland during the second half of the weekend. some of those could be quite heavy. maybe a few showers for northern scotland, but otherwise

a lot of dry weather. this low pressure gets quite close to southern—most counties of england, so it could turn wet and windy towards the far south coast. otherwise, plenty of sunshine around and temperatures of around 8 or 9 again. now, beyond that, monday looks like being a dry day. a ridge of high pressure moves in, but then we see rain returning from tuesday.

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