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president zelensky reveals 31,000 ukrainian troops have been killed in the two years of war with russia. translation: we cannot lose. what will mean if ukraine loses? it means there will be no us. donald trump's only rival in the race for the republican presidential candidacy vows to fight on, even after he beats her in her home state. and oppenheimer is the big winner at the screen actors guild awards. it nets the top prize, as well as best actor for cillian murphy. hello and welcome. i'm nicky schiller. here in the uk, the conservative party is finding itself under increasing pressure after an mp made comments described as "islamophobic,
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anti—muslim and racist". lee anderson was suspended from the party after saying london's mayor was controlled by "islamists". the suspension was not for the comments but for refusing to apologise. the party's leadership was drawn further into the argument on sunday — the deputy prime minister refusing to say whether he thought the comments were islamophobic. 0ur political correspondent georgia roberts reports. lee anderson, seen this morning, was not long ago the deputy chairman of the conservative party, but he has now been suspended for refusing to apologise for these comments. i don't actually believe that these islamists have got control of our country, but what i do believe is they've got control of khan and they've got control of london. speaking this morning, the deputy prime minister said the mp didn't intend to be islamophobic, but acknowledged the comments could have been read that way, which is why he was asked to apologise. i don't believe that lee anderson was intending to be islamophobic, but nonetheless i understand the concern, particularly
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when it is in relation to the mayor of london, how those words have caused offence. but you're talking about... and because of that, that is precisely why he was given the chance to apologise. and when he failed to do so, action was taken. the deputy prime minister said there were wider concerns about rising extremism that were right to be addressed. it comes after the speaker controversially allowed labour to have their say in an snp debate, citing concerns over mps' safety. i think what lee anderson was more broadly expressing in his interviews, and others have done, is a deep concern, which by the way i also share, about the way in which politics is being conducted. and what has happened over the past week, i never thought in my lifetime as a politician i would see a situation where what was happening in the house of commons was influenced by the threat of violence, and that has caused huge anger and frustration.
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labour's shadow international development secretary criticised the prime minister's handling of the row. watching what has unfolded in the conservative party, the absolute poison that has been allowed to seep into their political debate and a prime minister that is seemingly unwilling to even acknowledge the term islamophobia, let alone stand up to senior politicians in his party dragging our politics into the sewer. the snp are seeking another vote on the gaza conflict this week in parliament, with an aim to keeping the pressure up on the issue. 0utside parliament, the high emotion on this shows no signs of abating any time soon. georgia roberts, bbc news. the muslim council of britain says it welcomed mr anderson's suspension, but is concerned the action was only taken because he refused to apologise, rather than for the nature of his remarks. the secretary general of the council, zara mohammed, called for an investigation into what she calls "the structural islamophobia" within the party. writing to the conservative party chair, she said...
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let's speak to anna gross, poltical correspondent at the financial times. thank you very much forjoining us. the deputy prime minister declined to say after a number of times been asked that it was islamophobic. how big an issue is it for the tory party? big an issue is it for the tory .a 2 . ~ big an issue is it for the tory -a ? ~ ~ , party? well, i think it is concerning, _ party? well, i think it is concerning, is _ party? well, i think it is concerning, is probably| party? well, | think it is _ concerning, is probably considering for the leadership. they will come under a lot of criticism for allowing islamophobia to ferment, for spending, allowing islamophobia to ferment, forspending, being allowing islamophobia to ferment, for spending, being aware of the problem for a long time and not dealing with it and allowing over this past week things to kind of accelerate. maybe we can talk about
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that in a bit. ultimately, rishi sunak has made a judgment here that he doesn't want to frustrate people on the right of the party, he doesn't want to seem as though he has kowtowing to the left liberals who are criticising him. and so here sort of saying, drawing a line when it became a big problem for him. he's not going to go further than that. ., ., �* ~' ,. that. you don't think you will address it? _ that. you don't think you will address it? i— that. you don't think you will address it? i am _ that. you don't think you will address it? i am thinking - that. you don't think you will address it? i am thinking of. that. you don't think you will - address it? i am thinking of prime minister questions on wednesday and an issue that comes up. i minister questions on wednesday and an issue that comes up.— an issue that comes up. i imagine it will come out. _ an issue that comes up. i imagine it will come out, but _ an issue that comes up. i imagine it will come out, but he _ an issue that comes up. i imagine it will come out, but he put _ an issue that comes up. i imagine it will come out, but he put oliver - will come out, but he put 0liver dowden forward today, and he was given the opportunity on multiple occasions on various channels to say we do not tolerate islamophobia and we do not tolerate islamophobia and we think this crossed a line. he
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kind of, at every opportunity, kind of averted the question and said, anderson wasn't careful with his words. 0n gb news he indicated if he were to apologise he might let him back into the party. it is quite clear the government is going to make every effort not to tackle this head on and do sort of circumvented. do you think lee anderson is likely to apologise? it is do you think lee anderson is likely to apologise? it is a good question. at this point. _ to apologise? it is a good question. at this point, he's _ to apologise? it is a good question. at this point, he's been given quite| at this point, he's been given quite a few opportunities, and he came out and said yesterday, they had to get rid of me and i understand the reasons. at that point he could have apologise. he doesn't strike me as the sort of person who would kind of go away and come back and say i made a mistake. we've seen today that nigel barrage has said the reform
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party would welcome him with open arms, and it almost as likely he would take up that offer as it is he would take up that offer as it is he would apologise. that would take up that offer as it is he would apologise.— would apologise. that is an interesting _ would apologise. that is an interesting point. reform l would apologise. that is an - interesting point. reform doing well interesting point. reform doing well in the polls at the moment with the last two by—elections, 10% of the votes. it last two by-elections, 1096 of the votes. , ., ., , votes. it is a potentially attractive _ votes. it is a potentially attractive proposition, i votes. it is a potentially i attractive proposition, and votes. it is a potentially - attractive proposition, and it is a party where you are able to speak more freely, and he could speak to, openly to a demographic he's looking to speak to. openly to a demographic he's looking to seak to. a, openly to a demographic he's looking to seakto. ., , ., openly to a demographic he's looking to speak t0-— to speak to. more generally, do you think all the — to speak to. more generally, do you think all the main _ to speak to. more generally, do you think all the main parties _ to speak to. more generally, do you think all the main parties need - to speak to. more generally, do you think all the main parties need to i think all the main parties need to tackle islamophobia and anti—semitism better than they are at the moment? anti-semitism better than they are at the moment?— at the moment? yes, i think the conservative _ at the moment? yes, i think the conservative party _ at the moment? yes, i think the conservative party has _ at the moment? yes, i think the conservative party has been, - at the moment? yes, i think the| conservative party has been, and perhaps rightly so, accused of having a blind spot when it comes to
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islamophobia in the party. in the same way the labour party has been accused of having a blind spot when it comes to anti—semitism. this incident with lee anderson, it followed a day after suella braverman, writing in the telegraph, saying the extremists are in charge of britain. and in 2021 eyrewas a big review conducted by a professor —— there was. he found the problem of islamophobia was pervasive, and in the conservative party, and he's found that last year, having looked into his recommendations, the party has been very slow to take them on board and to create processes where they would be able to identify where islamophobia was taking place. i do think there is a problem in the
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party, and i do think not enough is being done at the moment to get a grapple on where it starts and ends, and how to tackle it.— to the war in ukraine. president zelensky has said 31,000 ukrainian troops have been killed so far during the war with russia. the first time in many months that figure had been revealed. he said tens of thousands of civilians had also died in the russian occupied territories. speaking at a news conference to mark saturday's second anniversary of russia's invasion, mr zelensky said he couldn't reveal the number of people injured because that information would help russia, but the loss was very painful. he was hopeful of a peace summit in the spring and was "sure" the us congress would pass its aid package for ukraine. translation: we cannot lose. what will mean if ukraine loses? it means there will be no us, no us in existence. definitely this
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is not the end of our existence that we like. if ukraine loses, if it becomes complicated, the number of victims, it will depend on, on our partners, on the western world. if we are strong with the weapons that we get, this or that, we won't lose the war. we will prevail. there has been ukrainian criticism of western support because some allies were failing to live up to the commitments they've made about weapons deliveries. there are reports of shortages of ammunition and other material, and russian invaders advancing on parts of the long frontline. ukraine's defence minister, rustem umerov, said half of the promised assistance was arriving late and that every time this happened, ukraine lost people and territories. at the moment, commitment doesn't constitute delivery. 50% of commitments are not delivered on time.
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so which means that in the mathematics of war, we look to the enemy, their economy is almost 2 trillion, they use up to 15% official and unofficial budget for the war which constitutes over 150 billion us dollars. so, annually, it's officially. so basically, whatever commitment that doesn't come on time, we'll lose people, we'll lose territory. that is ukraine's defence minister. yuriy sak, an adviser to ukraine's strategic industries minister, agreed that delays in receiving western support were costly. of course, we have always been, on the one hand, very grateful to our partners for the support we are receiving, but at the same time, we have always stressed that the delays in the supply of ammunition, any delays in the supply of any weapons
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systems, results in higher casualties, higher rate of losses, so when we urge our partners to provide these weapons and ammunitions faster, we are not criticising them, we are just stipulating the facts. you know, time is weaponised by russia and we have to be conscious of that. you know, this is why ukraine has already started to produce our own ammunition, we are building up our own defence industry sector and defence industry base, but of course we are still heavily reliant on the support of our western partners and time is of essence. and how crucial will it be for the us billions that are currently tied up in the debate in the house of representatives for you to have over the coming months? 0n the one hand, we have always said that, you know, if there is no support coming to ukraine, of course for us
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it is a war of survival, so we will continue the fight with brooms and sticks if we have to, but as our president, mr zelensky, said just today, he said will ukrainians survive? yes, we will, but not all of us, so that needs to be borne in mind. it is all about the cost that has to be paid, because we are committed to continuing to defend the values of a free europe and free world, we continue to fight this war. we are not asking our partners to send, you know, their soldiers or their boots on the ground, but we are asking for weapons, we are asking for financial support, because it is about our survival and our survival, by extension, will impact the future of european countries and of the world at large. in an interview with us broadcaster cbs, israel's prime minister, benjamin neta nyahu, says once troops begin their operation
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in rafah, what he described as �*total victory�* would be just weeks away. gaza's health ministry says more than 90 people were killed through the night — and the total number is nearing 30,000. in the israeli city of tel aviv, police used water cannon for the first time to disperse anti—government protesters demanding the release of the hostages held in gaza by hamas. paul adams reports. tel aviv last night. israel's deep divisions on raw display. these streets are used to protests, but they are bigger now, angrier. for the first time since october, the police resorting to tougher measures. the loathing for israel's prime minister and his hardline cabinet goes back more than a year, but it's spurred on by the war in gaza and the fear that their government is more interested in defeating hamas than freeing hostages. we cannot keep on doing the military solutions because they are not working. it is becoming worse. a lot of people are
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dead on both sides. we are waiting for any development and we want them home. the government here says that talks aimed at getting the hostages back are making progress — something hamas denies. the process is due to continue in qatar this week, but the government is also saying it is about to approve plans for an assault on rafah. it says those plans will include a mass evacuation of civilians before ground troops go in. some palestinians aren't waiting, leaving rafah for places where they hope they will be safer. air strikes are already causing panic in a city where more than a million people are sheltering. and with each day that passes, the number of palestinians killed in this war creeps closer to another grim milestone — 30,000. paul adams, bbc news, jerusalem.
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i want to take you to live pictures in brazil, the main avenue in sao paulo. you can see thousands of people are gathering there, supporters of the former brazilian president, and they are taking part in a demonstration, the first since he left office over a year ago. this is the street level view. this is due to start in 45 minutes. the organisers say the rally is in defence of democracy and the rule of law. they claim he is a victim of political persecution by the left—wing government. he is being investigated for his alleged involvement in plotting a military coup following his election defeat in 2021. most of those demonstrators that are wearing the national colours of yellow and green. that was requested by bolsonaro, he was
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part of this demonstration in sao paulo. we are expecting events to get under way in full in around a0 minutes. we will keep eye on those pictures. to the us. donald trump is one step closer to the republican presidential nomination thanks to a strong win over nikki haley in the south carolina primary. the former president won his opponent's home state by a 20—point margin, his fourth consecutive victory. as he celebrated, mr trump made no mention of ms haley — preferring to attack president biden. the former governor of south carolina says she'll fight on regardless — because she says most americans didn't wantjoe biden or donald trump as president. i was just informed that we got double the number of votes that has ever been received in the great state of south carolina. there has never been a spirit like this and i just want to say that i have never seen the republican party so unified as it is right now. we are going to be up
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here on november 5th and we are going to look atjoe biden and we are going to look him right in the eye — he is destroying our country — and we are going to say, "joe, you're fired, get out. "get out, joe, you're fired!" let's speak to robert moran, republican pollster and partner at the brunswick group. thank you forjoining us. let's start with nikki haley, she's vowed to carry on, but how realistic is it? it to carry on, but how realistic is it? , ., ., , ., it? it is tough. donald trump won with 'ust it? it is tough. donald trump won with just under _ it? it is tough. donald trump won with just under 1696 _ it? it is tough. donald trump won with just under 1696 of _ it? it is tough. donald trump won with just under 1696 of the - it? it is tough. donald trump won with just under 1696 of the vote, l with just under 16% of the vote, which feels like a knockout blow in her home state. the national polling shows donald trump at around 58, 50 9% nationally among republicans. the theory would be she continues to collect delegates where she can on the off chance the trump campaign
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implodes or something happens. i think she may be doing this out of conviction, but the question is, at what point is it untenable and doesn't begin to hurt her with her republican base?— doesn't begin to hurt her with her republican base? when my derby, su er republican base? when my derby, suaer tuesday _ republican base? when my derby, super tuesday coming _ republican base? when my derby, super tuesday coming up? - republican base? when my derby, super tuesday coming up? i - republican base? when my derby, super tuesday coming up? i don'tl super tuesday coming up? i don't know. ifi super tuesday coming up? i don't know. if i was _ super tuesday coming up? i don't know. if i was on _ super tuesday coming up? i don't know. if i was on her— super tuesday coming up? i don't know. if i was on her campaign, l super tuesday coming up? i don't know. if i was on her campaign, i| know. if i was on her campaign, i would look at conceding soon. my suspicions are she wants to take it to super tuesday, get the delegates on the off chance something happens and you can secure the nomination that way. but and you can secure the nomination that wa . �* , ., , and you can secure the nomination thatwa . �* , ., , ~ ., that way. but we shall see. another bi win for that way. but we shall see. another big win for donald _ that way. but we shall see. another big win for donald trump, - that way. but we shall see. another big win for donald trump, he's - that way. but we shall see. another big win for donald trump, he's won | big win for donald trump, he's won all of them. are you seeing anything in the polling from 2020 question no, he is likely to run the tables in most of the states.— no, he is likely to run the tables in most of the states. certainly the reublican in most of the states. certainly the republican mega — in most of the states. certainly the republican mega states. _ in most of the states. certainly the republican mega states. it - in most of the states. certainly the republican mega states. it is - republican mega states. it is interesting, the audience has to think how each of the campaign is thinking of it. the trump campaign
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want to focus on the general election, focus on three things, joe biden, the economy and the war. nikki haley's campaign once to get delegates and see if something happens, and then maybe build a national base in four years. the biden campaign would love for this to drag on, burn donald trump is campaign cash and distract him. that would give the biden campaign to communicate on the economy, which is really the core weakness and a conundrum for everyone, but especially for the president. realistically, we are going to see donald trump against biden, aren't we? , , donald trump against biden, aren't we? ,, donald trump against biden, aren't we? . we? unless something catastrophic ha--ens we? unless something catastrophic happens somewhere _ we? unless something catastrophic happens somewhere along - we? unless something catastrophic happens somewhere along the - we? unless something catastrophic| happens somewhere along the way. that is right. presidential real actions are often a referendum on the incumbent, which means it is
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usually about perceptions of the economy. this is where the biden campaign once you have some time to fix it. on one hand, the numbers on the american economy, the numbers we have are pretty good. low unemployment. 0n the other hand, perceptions of the economy are relatively poor because of inflation, fear of lay—offs, and a malaise post covid. the biden campaign would love for it to drag on to give it time to better communicate on the economy and help their real election bid. haifa communicate on the economy and help their real election bid.— their real election bid. how much does mr trump's _ their real election bid. how much does mr trump's legal _ their real election bid. how much does mr trump's legal problems | their real election bid. how much - does mr trump's legal problems play into it? he seems to use them as a way of arousing his supporters and getting more money for his campaign. certainly in the republican primary, his legal problems have helped him. he's argued he's being persecuted by
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the establishment, and his voters agree. that helped him win the republican primary, or poised to win. in the general, it is a marginal negative but it does turn out his base voters. the nikki haley campaign is arguing you can get a strong challenger without any of the overhang of the other personal issues, i do have a bigger edge against the president. so far, her message isn't catching on. {lila against the president. so far, her message isn't catching on. ok, thank ou ve message isn't catching on. ok, thank you very much _ message isn't catching on. ok, thank you very much for — message isn't catching on. ok, thank you very much forjoining _ message isn't catching on. ok, thank you very much forjoining us. - it was the screen actors guild awards in los angeles on saturday night — a ceremony that is seen a good predictor for the oscars. and 0ppenheimer was the big winner. christopher nolan's film won the top prize for best film cast. accepting the award on behalf of the cast, sir kenneth branagh said they were all "grateful, humbled and proud". cillian murphy was named best leading actor for his role in the movie about the atomic bomb. killers of the flower moon star lily gladstone was named best leading actress.
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28 years ago when i was trying to become an actor, i was a failed musician and i felt extremely like an interloper, but now looking out at all of you guys here today i know that i am part of something truly wonderful. so thank you so much. cheering and applause. thank you for all of the compassionate souls in this room and all of the storytellers here tonight. keep speaking your truths and keep speaking up for each other. have a good one. see you again. the holdovers star da'vine joy randolph was named best supporting actress, a prize she has won consistently throughout awards season and is considered almost certain to take at the oscars. i think the biggest thing is... as a woman of colour it is very imperative to me that the stories i am telling are diverse,
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authentic, real and quality. so i really took a lot of time on picking the roles and making sure that who i am going to portray means something and will impact people, and people will enjoy to experience, and hopefully feel seen. 0ppenheimer�*s robert downeer, who has similarly been dominating his category, was named best supporting actor. he described the award as "incredibly meaningful", and also acknowledged his 0scar frontrunner status by asking, "why me, why now, why do things seem to be going my way?" jennifer aniston and bradley cooper presented this year's lifetime achievement prize to veteran singer and actress barbra streisand. she received a standing ovation from the audience and joked it was "such a wonderful award to get, because you know in advance you're going to get it". she also recalled her childhood. ididn't like i didn't like reality, i wanted to be in the movies. even though i knew
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i didn't look like the other women on the screen. my mother said, you better learn to type. but i didn't listen, and somehow, some way, thank you, god, it all came true.— you, god, it all came true. dazzling disla s you, god, it all came true. dazzling diaplavs of— you, god, it all came true. dazzling displays of lanterns _ you, god, it all came true. dazzling displays of lanterns have _ you, god, it all came true. dazzling displays of lanterns have lighted i you, god, it all came true. dazzling displays of lanterns have lighted up the sky to mark the end of the lunar new year. the festival is held to weeks after lunar new year, which ushered in the year of the dragon. the lantern festival is typically celebrated in parts of asia, including china, south korea and vietnam. don't those pictures from china look amazing? stay here on bbc news. hello, there. much of the country enjoying a fine and dry part two of the weekend,
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with quite a bit of sunshine around after that cold, frosty and in places foggy start. so, much of the country will remain dry with sunny spells. however, low pressure to the south of the uk will continue to bring wet and windy weather to south wales, south—west england, increasingly so across the south and south—east of england through this evening and overnight. we'll see some showers driving into central northern scotland, a few across north sea coasts of england, as well, wintry in nature. but further north, where we have the clearer skies, a ridge of high pressure toppling in. it's going to be cold and frosty, less cold in the south and east because of the cloud, the wind and rain from this feature which will eventually pull out into the near continent for monday, taking the rain with it, but it will remain quite windy across england and wales. we remain in the colder air mass with this ridge of high pressure which will bring much of the country a lot of dry and sunny weather throughout the day on monday before it turns wet and windy in the far north—west later on. so, quite a windy day to come across southern and eastern areas, the rain eventually clears from sussex and from kent. a few showers across north sea
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coasts, otherwise mostly dry with some sunshine thanks to that ridge of high pressure. winds lighter in the north compared to the south and east, that will really take the edge off the temperatures, very windy for the northern isles later on ahead of this weather front. so temperatures on the face of it 6—9, it will feel colder than that in the south—east when you factor in that strong north—easterly breeze. as we head through monday night, clearer skies for england and wales with the breeze tending to die down. it turns wetter, windier and cloudier for scotland and northern ireland, so here less cold than it will be across england and wales, where we will have again a frost, perhaps even a few mist and fog patches around to start the day. tuesday, we see this weather front pushing southwards and eastwards across the country, it will be weakening as it pushes into that ridge of high pressure. some heavy rain likely across scotland and northern ireland for a time, maybe some snow on the hills, that weather front weakens as it pushes into england and wales, so a rather cloudy afternoon here. brighter for scotland and northern ireland
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into the afternoon, but there will be some blustery showers and these will have a wintry element to them, temperatures range from 7—10. looks like it remains unsettled for the rest of february, could turn a bit milder midweek but then it turns colder as we head into the first few days of march.
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live from london. this is bbc news the conservative party is under increasing pressure after suspending an mp over claims of racism. lee anderson said "islamists" had "got control" of the mayor of london.
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but the deputy prime minister won't say whether the comments were islamophobic. israel prime minister has told us television that his countries versus our weeks away from a total victory in gaza. we will hear more from him in gaza. we will hear more from him in a moment. donald trump is one step closer to the republican presidential nomination, easily beating his only rival nikki haley in south carolina primary. despite losing in her home state, haley has vowed to fight on in the contest. hello. let's get more on one of our top stories — the israel gaza war. speaking in the last few hours — the israeli prime minister has told us television that the idf operation in rafah will put israel
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"weeks away" from a "total victory" in gaza. benjamin netanyahu has been speaking to our broadcast partners at cbs — here's more of what he's had to say. victory is within reach, and you cannot have victory and tell eliminate hamas.— cannot have victory and tell eliminate hamas. how it within reach? once — eliminate hamas. how it within reach? once we _ eliminate hamas. how it within reach? once we begin - eliminate hamas. how it within reach? once we begin the i eliminate hamas. how it within i reach? once we begin the operation, the intense phase _ reach? once we begin the operation, the intense phase of _ reach? once we begin the operation, the intense phase of the _ reach? once we begin the operation, the intense phase of the fighting i the intense phase of the fighting is weeks away from completion, not months, weeks away from completion. and we have already destroyed 18 of the 2a hamas terrorist battalions. so four of them are concentrated in rafah. but understand that i have asked the army to submit to me a double plan, first to evacuate, to enable the evacuation of the
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palestinian civilians in gaza and obviously, second to destroy the remaining hamas battalions. that gets as a real, real distance towards the completion of our victory. we are not going to give it up. if we have a deal it will be delayed somewhat, but it will happen. if we don't have a deal we will do it anyway. it has to be done because total victory is our goal and total victory is within reach, not months away, weeks away once we begin the operation. that not months away, weeks away once we begin the operation.— benjamin netanyahu benjamin neta nyahu talking benjamin netanyahu talking to our broadcasters in the united states on cbs. here in the uk — and the argument engulfing the conservatives after its former deputy chairman, lee anderson, was suspended from the parliamentary party. he'd refused to apologise for saying the mayor of london, sadiq khan, was controlled by islamists. the deputy prime minister, 0liver dowden, declined to call those comments islamophobic, but said he shared concerns they could be taken that way. he's been speaking to laura kuenssberg on her sunday morning programme.
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well, that's why the prime minister took action. he gave lee anderson the opportunity to apologise, he didn't take that opportunity. words matter. he didn't choose his words correctly and, having failed to apologise, the prime minister took action and removed the whip. i think that was the appropriate course of action to take. do you agree, though, that the remarks were islamophobic, anti—muslim? i don't believe that lee anderson said those remarks intending to be islamophobic. she was concerned they would be interpreted, and for that exactly that reason, the prime minister asked — and, indeed, the chief whip asked — for that apology. 0ne wasn't forthcoming. action has been taken. i think that's the appropriate step to take. i think what what lee anderson was more broadly expressing in his interviews, and others have done, is a deep concern — which, by the way, i also share about the way in which politics has been conducted and what has happened over the past week. i never thought that in my lifetime as a politician, i would see a situation
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where what was happening in the house of commons was influenced by the threat of violence, and that has caused huge anger and frustration. and we will... it's deeply un—british, and it's right that we should call it out. we'll come to that in a few minutes. but as you said, 0liver dowden, words matter. and i think our viewers this morning will want to know if you believe, as one of the most senior politicians in this country, that those words were islamophobic and anti—muslim. do you believe that? i'm not asking you about lee anderson's intent. i'm asking you what you believe. well, i... i think the two of them kind of go together, laura, because i... i don't believe that lee anderson was intending to be islamophobic, but nonetheless, i understand the concern about, particularly when it's in relation to the mayor of london, and how those words have caused offence... you're talking about... and because of that, that is precisely why he was given the chance to apologise, and when he failed to do so, action was was taken.
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the question i'm asking you and i think our viewers will be able to hear very clearly that you don't want to give your view. is it your view that saying, i believe "they've" got control of khan and "they've" got control of london, is that islamophobia? well, i think the the chance that it could be taken, the fact that it could be taken in that way is the reason why those comments led to the chief whip asking for an apology from the prime minister. i share those concerns about how they could be taken in that way. and that's why it was right that he should be asked for an apology and when he failed to give that apology, the whip was removed. i think our viewers will hear very clearly, though, you are declining to give your own view on what those words mean, having said that words matter. i, i think i've been... i've been clear that they they could be taken that way.
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right. and because they could be taken that way, he was given the chance to apologise. and he he failed to do so and lost the whip. and if he'd apologised, would he have kept hisjob? yes, that's he was he was asked to apologise, he failed to do so and that's what... but of course it's right that we debate these these these individual words. but it is the more fundamental thing for me is what is going on right now in our country. i have constituents of mine who arejewish, who are afraid to walk the streets to show the symbols of their religion. we see those marches where they witness week after week anti—semitic tropes, people taking part in those marches and not calling them out. and now we've seen in our own parliament debates being influenced because of that threat of violence. i think all of us need to take a step back and say this isn't just about policing, it's about our attitudes to what we accept. and i think this kind of coarsening where we've been... we accept threats of violence as being routine against elected
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politicians, whatever their colour is deeply dangerous for our politics and we need to call it out. and many politicians would agree with you, many of our viewers, i'm sure, would agree with you. but as you said at the beginning, words matter. people respond to things that politicians say. and what lee anderson said was strikingly similar to what suella braverman — the former home secretary until recently — wrote in the telegraph. she said, "the truth is, the islamists, the extremists "and the anti—semites are in charge now." now, you said clearly what lee anderson said could be taken as being offensive. that's very similar. so do you think what she said could be taken as being offensive, too? well, what i would say, with respect of what suella said, is that i disagree with with with what she said here, but i think that's in a different category, which is about — i disagree with the comments, by the way.
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i believe for the reason, as i set out the underlying sentiment of my deep concern about this these these threats and these intimidations, which are often coming from islamic extremists, we shouldn't be shy of calling that out. and i have done so as a as a member of parliament. but i don't believe that what suella has said crosses the line in the way that. why not? because she said "the islamists are in charge." now, you said you don't believe that's true. lee anderson said the islamists are in control of sadiq khan. why is it different? well, i think there's a slight danger of getting into semantics of this... but words matter, he said that yourself. please allow me to finish my point. t hat this is about attaching specifically to to one person, the mayor of london. i think what sabella was saying was making a broader statement, one which i don't agree with the specifics of what she said, but i do very much agree with the concerns that she is raising about threats coming often
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from islamic extremists, which are being used to intimidate jews in this country and are being used to intimidate a debate in our own parliament. and i think that and i think worries about language should not stop democratically elected politicians doing their duty of of calling this out and seeing what a seminal moment is for our country this week, where we we've had lots of lines crossed in the past. this, for me is a totally different level and you have made that point. but how politicians respond to it does matter. and some of your colleagues do believe that suella braverman crossed the line. sayeeda warsi, one of your own peers, says that, "she is prepared "to divide, to ratchet up hate and set our country alight "for political posturing. "this is shocking and dangerous." well, i don't...
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i don't agree with sayeeda on that. i've made clear my views in relation to to suella, which is i don't agree with the specific words she chose to use, but that's a matter of legitimate political debate. we're not talking, though, about insubstantial people here, though. suella braverman, of course, until very recently, was very, very senior in your party. liz truss, who of course was the prime minister, was filmed with one of donald trump's old lieutenants, steve bannon, this week. now, steve bannon was talking about tommy robinson, the founder of the english defence league, someone with a string of convictions. he called him a hero and she was standing alongside it. didn't challenge it. let's show it to viewers. i don't understand this. the grooming situation, tommy robinson, all these heroes fought at the rape situation. and in that community, you can have a special election and you may have a radicaljihadist party. send somebody to comments after all that problem... that... that is correct. do you think, as sajid javid said, former colleague of yours, senior conservative, that liz truss should have known better?
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she also talked about the deep state undermining which many of our viewers would know is a conspiracy theory. should she have known better? well, we saw one one small clip from this clip from... she should have called it out then. what i would say is that when the cameras are on you and you've got a big debate going on, you sometimes don't catch every single word that someone says. but that's for liz to explain why she didn't call it out that time. i certainly would have called it out had i been in that situation and heard it properly. i mean, i know this sounds like a sort of slightly trite point, but when you've got the cameras on, you've got a debate going on, sometimes you don't catch everything that everyone says. 0k, your extremism chief, the counter—extremism tsar, robin simcox, sat in the chair last week and we had a very serious discussion about all of this. he told us about the rise in anti—semitism and also the rise in islamophobia as being a very serious issue. yet when the prime minister put a statement out last night, condemning extremism, calling out anti—semitism, that statement didn't
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mention islamophobia. why not? well, the prime minister has been robust in showing that there's zero tolerance for for islamophobia. imean, what... the point the prime minister was making in his statement is the point that i've been trying to make during this interview as well, which is when we see the real pressure happening right now, if you look at those marches week after week, people are going on those marches and they are carrying placards which have anti—semitic tropes on them. our own parliament has had projected onto it an anti—semitic trope. the debate that was going on in parliament this week, and by the speaker's own account, the reason why he chose to to alter established precedent, to have that further vote was because of fears about safety. those are all coming from a perspective that i see going through threats tojews on the streets of our streets of our country.
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threats in those marches are now threats in our house of commons. and that's what the prime minister was addressing in that statement. now, of course, the prime minister is addressing, has addressed islamophobia and indeed he talked about extremism, calling out extremism across the board. but the comments he was making was about this kind of train of events that we have seen in our country over, over the past weeks. and i think all decent people in this country, the vast majority, whether they're conservative or other parties, need to stand up and call this out, because we cannot be in a situation where we allow freedom of expression, the hard—fought freedoms of our parliament and our democracy to be put at risk by people that masquerade as as having legitimate protest, but actually using violence and intimidation. and it is a fact that members of parliament were worried about voting on a motion — not discharging their duty to there, the people that elected them and their duty to their conscience — because of external violence. and that is something that's right
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for the prime minister of our nation to address, and that is what he did in those words. and that's where the focus was. while we have been listening to the deputy prime minister, we have been brought some breaking news. breaking sports news, this is great news if you are a liverpool fan, like a certain person in my ear a little while ago, liverpool had beaten chelsea 1—0 after extra time to wind the english league cup final. virgil van dijk is the man who scored that goal in the extra time, the start of extra time. i saw some pictures out of the corner of my eye of the oregon cop celebrating after that 0regon cop celebrating after that win. and we have to say, of course, this is the final role for klopp, because he has announced he will be living liverpool, so i think they will be winning as many things as they possibly can with his last season of the club. but they are
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celebrating winning the english league cup final beating chelsea 1-0. league cup final beating chelsea 1—0. moore, of course, and the bbc sports website and app. the scottish national party says it will push for another commons debate on gaza following last week's chaotic vote. there was uproar in the commons when speaker sir lindsay hoyle allowed mps to vote on a labour amendment to the snp's ceasefire motion. it meant the snp motion was not voted on, causing the party to call for sir lindsay to quit. sir it davey said he probably should've said soiri earlier —— liberal democrat leader sir it davey has admitted he "probably should have said sorry earlier", in relation to his role in the post office scandal. sir it served as post office minister under the coalition government from 2010 to 2012. here's what he told laura kuenssberg when asked about the scandal yeah, i probably should have said sorry earlier on but it is a huge scandal. our hearts go out to those hundreds of sub—postmasters and their families who were treated appallingly. the key thing now is to make sure
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that those exonerations happen quickly, that they get the compensation quickly, and they get to the truth with the inquiry. i have two sub—postmasters in my constituency, one who was in prison for 16 months, one who, frankly, it has really affected his health. i am going to fight for those and join others in making sure the government gives the sub—postmasters the fair deal they deserve. gathering for the first major demonstration of its kind since he left office over a year ago. it's due to start in about 15 minutes' time.j her snarl has due to start in about 15 minutes' time. j her snarl has called this rally, he says, in defence of democracy and the rule of law, as he says he's the victim of political persecution by the left—wing government. he will oppress remember
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that he's been investigated for his alleged involvement in a military coup following his election defeat in 2021. most of those demonstrating or wearing the national colours of the country, green and yellow, that was also requested by mr ball snarled. we are not sure whether he will address them themselves —— bolsonaro. the eiffel tower in paris has re—opened after six days of closures caused by strike action. workers had walked out last monday in a dispute over the way the attraction is managed. the landmark's operator said a deal was reached with unions on saturday — it apologised to ticket holders and said they would be reimbursed for bookings impacted by the action. it's the second strike at the eiffel tower in the past three months — resulting in the loss of about 100—thousand admissions. a woman is taking legal action against drugs firm astrazeneca,
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saying her husband died from a covid—19 vaccine. kam miller's husband neil died in may 2021, after his first jab. she's joined about 80 families seeking compensation. astrazeneca would not comment on the ongoing legal action but said patient safety was its highest priority. helen mccarthy has the story. neil miller was 50 years old when he had his first covid vaccine in march 2021. he was the first in the family to have it. he rang me. he said, "i'm going for my vaccine, book yours in." despite being an extremely active man, neilfell ill. two weeks after the vaccination, he said, "my head is hurting like it's never hurt before." isaid, "well, go and rest." and he went straight to bed when he came home. neil would go in and out of hospital over the next two months until, on the 1st of may, he died, suddenly, at home. he went for a shower. i hear this big thud. i knew it was neil. i tried to open the bathroom door.
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he fell in front of the bathroom door. it was just too shocking for words. neil's death certificate certifies that he died from a rare reaction to the covid vaccine. you know, we've never had issue with it. that's why we went and had these ones. so, no, we're not anti—vaccine, but we do feel, now, if there is anything like this — and it is so hurriedly brought about — ask questions. kam has joined with more than 80 families who are seeking compensation from astrazeneca. we are bringing a case on behalf of a group of people who were significantly injured, or their loved ones in cases where they died, as a result of a very specific complication of the astrazeneca vaccine, which is called vitt or blood clots. astrazeneca manufactured the oxford vaccine on a not—for—profit basis and the vaccine is credited with saving millions of lives worldwide.
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the company told us it doesn't comment on ongoing litigation and gave us this statement. the astrazeneca 0xford vaccine has continuously been shown by 2022, the uk government had stopped ordering astrazeneca vaccine. the department of health and social care told us... serious side effects are rare, but they are real for the miller family, who say they'll continue to battle until they havejustice for neil. helen mccarthy, bbc news.
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let's get more on the the screen actors guild awards — a ceremony often seen as a predictor for the oscars. 0ppenheimer was the big winner on saturday night. christopher nolan's film won the top prize for best film cast. accepting the award on behalf of the cast, sir kenneth branagh said they were all "grateful, humbled and proud". cillian murphy was named best leading actor for his role in the movie about the atomic bomb. killers of the flower moon star lily gladstone was named best leading actress. film critic helen 0'hara told me whether the sags were reliable indicators for the oscars. it has looked like the frontrunner all awards season. i think there was some speculation beforehand that maybe killers of the flower moon would give it a close run for its money, but it does feel like it's kind of nailed on. there is a lot of overlap in the votership for the sag awards and for the oscars and it feels like, you know, these are the people who are choosing it. yeah, the sags, as you mentioned, have a good track record of predicting oscar winners. i think it's about 70% they get right over the years, so does that mean that cillian murphy, who won last night and also won the bafta,
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does that mean he is a shoe in for best actor at the oscars? i mean, look, there is always the possibility of an upset, but he is clearly the frontrunner. i would say actually that all four of those actor wins last night for, you know, da'vinejoy randolph, for robert downeer, and for lily gladstone, are the frontrunners for the oscars. i think the baftas were a bit of an outlier going for emma stone because lily was not nominated, but i would be very, very surprised if the winners we saw last night weren't the winners in the acting categories at the oscars. so your money is on lily gladstone, which would be a first in 0scars history, as well, wouldn't it? yes, it would, because native american actresses, actors as well, have not really been recognised. they haven't had the roles to be recognised, they haven't tended to have lead roles. when there have been stories, you know, set in their culture, we have had daniel day—lewis or kevin costner in the lead role,
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you know, so it is a big, big moment for her. and i think partly it is a great performance, but partly that narrative is one that the oscars really want to celebrate. yeah, for anyone who hasn't seen the film, give us an idea of the outline of it. so, killers of the flower moon is about the 0sage nation where oil was discovered early in the last century, and basically a bunch of people flocked there to try and exploit the 0sage people, and one of them was leonardo dicaprio's character who basically married lily gladstone's character essentially for her oil money, and all manner of shady business went down. and robert downeyjunior, if we go back to 0ppenheimer, what an amazing comeback in a way he has had. you know, 30 years ago, he was huge, he had his troubles, and now he is back really storming the way in all of these award ceremonies. 100%. i think hollywood loves a redemption story, and we all do, it gives us hope, but also his is so compelling. he really had all of the talent, he squandered it on drink and drugs — i don't think i am saying
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anything out of turn, i think he'd agree — and then has been clawing his way back for the past 20 years, most noticeably, of course, via the marvel cinematic universe and that incredible performance as tony stark, but to also see him get his flowers, get his recognition from his own peers i think has been really moving to him and i feel like he has really genuinely been enjoying this 0scar season, enjoying this moment of seeing himself kind of accepted in town. and very briefly, do you think that christopher nolan will get best director at the oscars? i think he will. i think, you know, there's always the question of martin scorsese, who you cannot count out, but i do think it's nolan's kind of turn, i think the oscars tend to acknowledge people who have been doing good work consistently for years and haven't yet been rewarded , and he very much fits that category. you can get more on those awards on the bbc news website, you can see
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our article is up with all the winners and indeed we look ahead to the oscars, a reminder the oscar are month and we will, of course, have full here on bbc news of that ceremony when it takes place in hollywood. for the first time, women injapan have joined hadaka matsuri — or the �*naked festival'. it's an ancient japanese ritual that's meant to bring good luck and drive away evil spirits. despite its name, the women wore purple robes, and chanted excitedly, while they carried a large bamboo trunk as an offering. but they didn'tjoin the festival's main event — where a large group of nearly—naked men clash to drive away evil spirits. hello, there. much of the country enjoying a fine
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and dry part two of the weekend, with quite a bit of sunshine around after that cold, frosty and in places foggy start. so, much of the country will remain dry with sunny spells. however, low pressure to the south of the uk will continue to bring wet and windy weather to south wales, south—west england, increasingly so across the south and south—east of england through this evening and overnight. we'll see some showers driving into central northern scotland, a few across north sea coasts of england, as well, wintry in nature. but further north, where we have the clearer skies, a ridge of high pressure toppling in. it's going to be cold and frosty, less cold in the south and east because of the cloud, the wind and rain from this feature which will eventually pull out into the near continent for monday, taking the rain with it, but it will remain quite windy across england and wales. we remain in the colder air mass with this ridge of high pressure which will bring much of the country a lot of dry and sunny weather throughout the day on monday before it turns wet and windy in the far north—west later on. so, quite a windy day to come across southern and eastern areas, the rain eventually clears
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from sussex and from kent. a few showers across north sea coasts, otherwise mostly dry with some sunshine thanks to that ridge of high pressure. winds lighter in the north compared to the south and east, that will really take the edge off the temperatures, very windy for the northern isles later on ahead of this weather front. so temperatures on the face of it 6—9, it will feel colder than that in the south—east when you factor in that strong north—easterly breeze. as we head through monday night, clearer skies for england and wales with the breeze tending to die down. it turns wetter, windier and cloudier for scotland and northern ireland, so here less cold than it will be across england and wales, where we will have again a frost, perhaps even a few mist and fog patches around to start the day. tuesday, we see this weather front pushing southwards and eastwards across the country, it will be weakening as it pushes into that ridge of high pressure. some heavy rain likely across scotland and northern ireland for a time, maybe some snow on the hills, that weather front weakens as it pushes
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into england and wales, so a rather cloudy afternoon here. brighter for scotland and northern ireland into the afternoon, but there will be some blustery showers and these will have a wintry element to them, temperatures range from 7—10. looks like it remains unsettled for the rest of february, could turn a bit milder midweek but then it turns colder as we head into the first few days of march.
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live from london, this is bbc news.
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in the uk, conservatives criticised after suspending an mp over claims of racism. but the deputy prime minister declines to say whether the comments were islamophobic. president zelensky reveals 31,000 ukrainian troops have been killed in the two years of war with russia. israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu tells us television that his country's forces are "weeks" away from "total victory" in gaza. donald trump's only rival in the race for the republican presidential candidacy vows to fight on, even after he beats her in her home state. here in the uk, the conservative party is finding itself under increasing pressure after an mp made comments described as "islamophobic, anti—muslim and racist". lee anderson was suspended from the party after saying london's

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