tv This is India BBCNEWS March 2, 2024 11:30am-12:01pm GMT
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rishi sunak says islamist and far—right extremists are "two sides of the same coin". speaking outside number 10, the prime minister expressed concern over recent protests, asking the country to "stand together" to "combat the forces of division" voting ends in iran's parliamentary elections. officials say the turnout was about 40% — the lowest since the islamic revolution in 1979. now on bbc news: this is india. hello and welcome to new delhi, capital city of the world's most populous country. let's take a look at what we've got on the show. as the country gets ready for elections later this year. mr modi stands tall. the cult is allowed to build up. we talk about the opposition.
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you need to be hungrier. you need to be bolder. you need to be more imaginative. we talk disinformation. there's a lot of propaganda and disinformation coming i from non—ij handles also. and we ask, what matters? the most raw, yet nuanced political conversations in india often happen at these kind of tea stalls. welcome to this is india. today we're talking elections. india is the world's largest democracy, an economic powerhouse set to become the world's third largest economy. internationally, india is having its moment courted by the united states as a counterweight to china. a voice for the global south. any day now, india will call elections. voting will take place over several weeks, and the results don'tjust matter to the people living in it. it matters to the world.
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now, in india, there are dozens of political parties in this country, but two really dominate — the bjp and the congress. before we get there, though, let's take a look at the election in numbers. 968 million eligible voters. that is almost the populations of both london and new york combined. 0k. so speaking of numbers, get this one. a poll that tracks the popularity of global leaders put prime minister narendra modi's approval rating at 78%. by comparison, a domestic poll in the uk put prime minister rishi sunak�*s approval rating at —48%. so 10 years on, how is it that
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mr modi remains so popular? a triumphant tourfor prime minister narendra modi, finally making good on a decades old promise. to bring the hindu god back to his birthplace here in ayodhya. those are the words by the prime minister of a secular country made building a hindu temple key to his re—election campaign. it is exalted as popularity. sitting next to mr modi, chief of the rashtriya swayamsevak sangh, or rss, the right wing hindu nationalist organisation seen as the ideological fountainhead for the ruling party. the rss is entrenched in families,
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and it's a deeply conservative, inward looking militia, which was founded in 1925, which mr modi and his party pays obeisance to. mr modi doesn'tjust respect the rss. he became a member in his teens. he raised the saffron flag. that brand of hindu nationalism was behind the demolition of the 16th century mosque three decades earlier, where the ram temple now sits. and across the country, other mosques are under threat from hindu nationalism. a court in mr modi's home constituency ruled hindus can worship in the basement of the mosque. believers in hindutva feel emboldened, but the local muslim community is fearful for their place in narendra modi's india. translation: i'm angry. i'm frustrated. there is pain, but there is also
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anger because we are not able to do anything. we have been praying there for 50 years, but we can't do anything to save it. i don't understand. is this the way our country will run? and for how long will you surprise us? will you suppress us? i take his concerns to a local tea stall made famous by the prime minister when he visited two years ago. are you hindu or muslim? in response, my identity was questioned. why muslims feel offended? why only muslims feel offended whenever a hindu comes? why only muslims feel offended? nor any other religion. since this country's inception. since people have known this country. since then it has been a hindu country. but only now has the word hindutva been coined. but we have to answer again and again whenever
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hindutva world comes. what about muslims? away from the city. in the politics of divide, india's agricultural heartland, part of mr modi �*s popularity has been the success of his so—called welfare schemes. rukhsana sanjay prajapati shows me his crops. he tells me that he gets money in rations for free from the government, a great financial benefit for him and for mr modi, it means votes. translation: l was. a congress supporter, but then narendra modi came but then narendra modi came with his ideologies, his way of working, and the way he connects to the people on the ground. he understands people's way of thinking and what they want. now i vote for the bjp. t women in this village just a few miles away get the benefits. but what they really need is better access to water to get around,
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buy some milk. translation: we get money, we get rice and grains. - we got cooking gas, but we are struggling with water. there's no water and we have to get it from a well, far away body. they blame corruption, saying it's not the fault of mr modi. a lot of schemes that used to be schemes run by governments departments are all now being presented and repackaged. every scheme has been put on one three roads. ghar yojana pradhan mantri yojana so everything. pradhan mantri meaning prime minister, minister. so everything coming not from the government, not from the department, not from any other person, it's all coming from parliament. and it's that spin on the messaging that makes mr modi appear unstoppable. everywhere you go, you see his face plastered on billboards and even on covid vaccine certificates, creating an image of a prime minister that is larger than life. there is no leader within lightyears who comes close to prime minister modi.
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some quarters of the media does the rest of the work for him? mainstream media whose job is to ask questions holding governments questionable of asking them questions is not happening. so what happens is that mr modi stands tall. the cult is allowed to build up because you have 500 news channels, you have 60 websites all saying the same thing. prime minister modi's carefully curated image honed over his two plus decades in politics, is likely to get him his third term. also making mr modi �*s electoral success — a weak opposition. the indian national congress party led this country to independence, but now is a shadow of its former self, seemingly unable to capitalise on government missteps. so will these elections be any different? this is the man seen as the opposition�*s hope to take on prime minister narendra modi.
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congress leader rahul gandhi is travelling across the country asking voters what they want. this is a question you will have to ask yourselves every day. unemployment, inflation. this is your future. well, going by the support over here, it seems like a vote of confidence, at least from the supporters of rahul gandhi for the congress party. this is a very significant, politically significant constituency of a meeting which has always belonged to the gandhi family. for 15 years, rahul gandhi represented this seat. before that, his mother, his father, his uncle. so it's really remained with the gandhi family until 2019. in a shock defeat, the congress party lost to the bjp over here. so can he win them back and away from the noise of the campaign trail?
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i meet 65—year—old shabir kahn in the village where for generations, his family has voted for the congress but even staunch loyalists like shabir feel the party is not doing enough. translation: nothing will change i if they don't raise other issues. i rahul gandhi needs to draw like other politicians. he's a good man, but that's not enough. if he speaks with more conviction, it will be good for him, for the party and for us. big since india's independence, the congress party dominated the country's political landscape from 400 seats in parliament in the 1980s. they were down to 52 in the 2019 elections. to counter the bjp's rising popularity, injuly last year, opposition partiesjoined hands to form a united front.
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translation: if this alliance wins, our country will win. _ but in less than a year, there are cracks in the alliance. key partners have left joining the bjp and others are bickering over seats. you're not worried about these differences? i'm not worried. these are differences. we have to recognise they are differences. but a divided house isn't going to be house divided. we are a house with multiple voices, but multiple voices of dissent we are a house with multiple voices. as well, not necessarily dissenting. divergent these differences, though, are casting a doubt in voters. the most raw, yet nuanced political conversations in india often happen at these kind of tea stalls. it's the best way to get a pulse of what people are thinking. translation: since i became eligible to vote, i have only _
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voted for the congress. but last time we voted for the bjp. i asked them. the bjp has one face, narendra modi, but the opposition hasn't projected anyone. that's what we are thinking. there has to be a face that this is our candidate. there is no leader here who can take our problems to rahul gandhi hamari. they need to build our roads. whoever builds this road for us, we will vote for them. there is no bigger issue for us than this. this is interesting because in the middle of all the national issues that have been debated for the people over here, something as small as building a road to connect this village to the city is as important to them. and just on the basis of that road being built, they will vote for the party that gives it to them. translation: young people - here are roaming around without jobs and prices are rising. do you think religious politics will give the bjp political mileage? they are gaining votes only on the basis of religion. if they set religious politics aside, they won't even get 100 seats in parliament.
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they should talk about development. they should stop this hindu—muslim politics to try to carrying they should stop this hindu—muslim politics. carrying on the conversation over tea. i asked them what their message to the congress party is. rahul gandhi should realise he won't get votes just by waving at crowds. he has to find a way to listen to our problems. just a cross—country road show short of elections is not enough. when you are in the opposition. you need to be hungrier. you need to be bolder. you need to be more imaginative. and above all, you've got to work harder. i think if mr modi is looking like a front runner, i think the full credit for this anomaly has to be given to the congress party. the opposition says they are up against a lot more. multiple raids, several arrests and over 140 opposition mps suspended in the last session of parliament, all being seen
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as an act of intimidation. rahul gandhi's show of strength is an attempt to reclaim a space for the opposition. but can these crowds turn into votes and can rahul convert this roadshow into his victory lap? so one thing that's really come out of the piece is the fact that really congress hasn't been able to manage the message. but that's certainly not a problem for the ruling bjp party. they've been really successful at it. now, what's really changed the landscape also is just how successful the government has been at getting people on the internet. in fact, we're actually on the lawns of parliament and you can see them just behind me right now. so let's talk about just how important the digitisation of india is. and i want to start with shruti. you're with bbc verify. you do a lot of work looking at these numbers. just what kind of an impact has this
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digitisation or getting so many people on the internet had on the voters? let's start with 2014, when the bjp first won the election. the internet penetration or internet subscriber base that india had stood at around 18%. and in 2015, the government launched the digital india mission, which was to bring — meant to bring more people online and also democratize the sort of social welfare benefits that people get and cut to 2023. it has now grown to 63%. so that sort of tells you the growth in the way india's internet subscriber base and the digital economy has grown. i want to throw this next to you, shazia. how has your party really been able to take advantage of that in getting the message out to voters? well, bharatiya janata party is the largest party, notjust in india, but in the world.
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if you look at the sheer numbers, and every day we have new members and as shruti just explained, the active internet base is huge. we're looking at more than 800 million internet users. so because it has a party also has a huge political base, it's a cadre based party. so it's also how it's also what we have to say then how we say it, looking at the numbers. and so all the all the achievements of modi government in the last ten years, we are looking at them, talking about them through different platforms and social media becomes very important to us. now, in your pieces for the washington post, you've actually looked at a lot of these of tech, really, and the role of tech. what really stands out for you? yeah, well, you know, what shazia said was absolutely true. the bjp is the world's largest political party.
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and many political scientists, i think, that have observed indian politics and compared it to other democracies would say that the bjp, arguably, for better or worse, has one of the most efficient, largest sort of well—drilled messaging and arguably propaganda machines that we've seen sort of anywhere in any country. they dominate the traditional media. but i would argue that that what they really have cracked that no other party in the world really has is the ability to deliver messages into the pockets of indian voters. as shazia had mentioned, whatsapp in the last decade has become a crucial venue. and many people would say that, yes, while the bjp is very efficient in spreading positive news about its accomplishments, it's also been very capable of spreading misinformation, disinformation that has a corrosive effect on indian political discourse. how do you respond to that? all that bjp is talking - about and doing is also talking about the various accomplishments. these are facts and figures of what bjp has delivered i
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in terms of governance, _ and there have been similar charges for instance, the wire, - which speaks against the bjp, had a story on tech fog, which actually they had i to retract and apologise for. so there have been those you know, there have been spread _ stories of misinformation, - but which have been corrected and retracted later. so i don't think there's this much disinformation you can do - where numbers are concerned. you can do it with incidentsj and events, but where sure delivery mechanisms go, bjp tops it all. so what bjp's official media handle does is what we would take - responsibility for, but not anybody posing to be a bjp member- or wanting to be a bjp member. so we're not responsible - for all information out there, but only for the official handles that we represent. _ if i could interject, i mean, what shazia says is true. i you know, i spent several weeks last
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year sort of observing kind of how the social media landscape works during elections. and what we noticed was that, you know, the bjp sort of it established social media cells and war rooms and basically every single voting district in the state had one. often on the official handles that are sort of run technically by the party. it was mostly positive. these were mostly almost all fact based kind of positive messaging, the stuff that you would see in any sort of country. but the bjp is backed by what many would say are hindu nationalist groups, some of which are quite extremist in their views that sort of prop up and mobilize the foot soldiers of the party. and it's within the vast whatsapp ecosystem of these groups that are intermingled with the official whatsapp groups of the bjp. that's where you see the most virulent material. it's really difficult often to sort
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of separate what is the official bjp material and what is a lot of this other more virulent material that is being spread by its base. but let me tell you, there's a lot of propaganda and disinformation coming from non bjp handles also. let's also get into it. i'm. i'm a muslim. i'm in the bjp the kind of filth i'm subjected to day after day. so propaganda happens across the spectrum where all the parties are concerned. so if you want to just vilify bjp and bjp supporters as those spreading the wild word, so to speak, i would disagree. it happens at all levels. i was taking responsibility for the bjp official media. would i say that the congress party is spreading horrible rumours about me and other women members of my party? no, because i will not hold them responsible. i would hold congress handle responsible if it were to do it directly. that's all i'm saying. clearly so much more that we can talk about, but we actually have to go and look
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at some other voices across the country. here in the central indian state of madhya pradesh, caste politics still remains the major deciding factor. those from the socially and economically marginalised castes constitute half of the state's population. they play a significant role in deciding the election results. the bjp has been trying to entice them by giving them more representation in the cabinet. the congress is also trying to play the same political card by demanding caste based census to determine which caste is occupying positions in the government, jobs and businesses. the fate of the candidates and the parties depends on the social makeup of population in every individual seat. there are 29 seats, out of which 28 are with the ruling bjp here. other issues like unemployment, poverty, inflation and farm subsidies also play a major role in decision making.
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we are in the hindu heartland in the north indian state of uttar pradesh, where india's prime minister narendra modi launched the ram temple, calling it the culmination of centuries of patience and sacrifice and ushering in what he calls a new era in india. there are more than 900 million hindus in india declaring the ram temple as a seminal moment the prime minister hopes will restore a sense of pride in most hindus and make him and his party, the bjp, politically invincible in india's 2024 elections. and it's this model of nationalism rooted in religion that will be tested. as indians prepare to vote in the days and weeks ahead. the western state of maharashtra is one of the politically most influential states of the country. it sends 48 mps to the parliament. maharashtra is always seen as swing
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state and a difficult state to win. but it is not only about the political power. home to india's financial capital, mumbai, it also has financial power. so whoever wins maharashtra has firm hand over the economic power. although one of the most industrialised and urbanised states of the country and leading destination for automobile it and service sector development, plays an important role on voter's agenda. with a perceived decrease in fdi and employment generations in last few years, it will impact the voter's across india. across india, women could be the game changers, and approximate 330 million are expected to go to the polls. and that's a number more than ever before. so every political party wants this. world bank, those in power at the federal or local levels,
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have brought in exclusive schemes that provide subsidised health and education, free gas cylinders, easy loans for small businesses, build toilets at homes and open bank accounts so women can receive benefits directly. but this alone may not be enough because women don't necessarily vote as a block and their caste, class and religious identity wane too. and those would be important factors in deciding which party's promises win their trust. there's been a lot of infrastructure growth in india — new bridges, roads and even metros. singing calcutta. now kolkata. it used to be the country's number one commercial trading hub. the first capital city
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of british india. the relics of empire are all around. there's even a big bend here. there's even a big ben here the oldest and only operational tram network in india is open here in calcutta. it's all the property and a quaint reminder of the past, but it's also a symbol of the city's decline over the last century. it's a metropolis that's now bursting at the seams with traffic. its most congested stretch is on the mighty hooghly river, connecting kolkata with the twin city of howrah on the opposite bank. but there is a solution in sight. kolkata is now finally getting a long pending transport upgrade, especially to its 40 year old metro system. and the centrepiece of it is this the upcoming underwater section of the east west metro line. so we've just entered the stretch of the metro that is below the river. it's about 100 feet under the water and it is quite surreal.
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this is a first for india. it was a project that was dreamt up by a british officer over 100 years ago, but it's now finally been completed. it's a prized addition to india's growing list of marquee infrastructure projects. hoping to give the world's fifth largest economy a shiny makeover the next few weeks will be a dynamic ride for this country. join us for the adventure. this is india. hello. it's been a cold, and for some of you, a wintry
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start to the weekend and will stay chilly. rest of today, though, further sleet and snow still possible in the widespread showers that we see across the country, but more of it will be rain, maybe a little bit of hail and equally more sunshine breaking out later on. now, what we have at the moment ahead of low pressure, cold air tied in around it. the focus for the heaviest and longest showers have been around this center of that low. that's where we've seen some sleet and snow today. that's edging into parts of wales. so we're going to see a bit more snow in the hills here, a little bit of snow on the show from the showers elsewhere across england and wales, but increasing amounts of sunshine to the south and east of those will see persistent rain slide across the north east of scotland for a time with strengthening winds. but western scotland bright afternoon, northern ireland brighter than yesterday but all chilly particularly where its continuing to see that rain, sleet and snow mix, temperatures maybe for some in parts of wales and the north, only around 3 to 5 degrees. now tonight, the showers continue to be focused mainly now to the north and the west of the country. that means with clearer skies
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across england and wales, there'll be a colder night, more widespread frost and the risk of ice into sunday morning. the centre of our low pressure though is on the move into the morning. it starts across scotland northern line before sliding out northwards and westward. so we start with the showers mainly focused across scotland and northern ireland on sunday morning. still wintry over higher ground but a more persistent rain pushing across orkney and then later into shetland. but if anything, whilst i still see some showers dotted here and there, mainly of rain and hail, more of it will be dry and bright. that one potential fly in the ointment is more cloudy eastern counties of england and along the coastal strip we could see some rain from a weather frontjust grazing us, temperatures up a little bit on today, but feeling chilly. into monday we start with a frost to the north and east, some clear skies. this next weather system, though, will bring strengthening winds and more cloud across the south west wales and northern ireland. outbreaks of rain developing here, sunshine turning hazy elsewhere as cloud gradually increases. but for more of you, especially in the north and the east, it will be a drier day on monday,
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even if we still got temperatures at if not a little bit below average for the time of year. the temperatures will lift a little bit further. those go through this week, a bit more in the way of drier weather rounds. the rain that we do see should be lighter and patchy. live from london, this is bbc news. the un says many of the people injured in an aid convoy rush in gaza on thursday were wounded by gun shots. the world food programme warns that, without change, "a famine is imminent in northern gaza." translation: this child is suffering from severe dehydration _ due to a lack of milk. his mum breast—feeds him, but she has not eaten, and there is no artificial milk.
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rishi sunak says islamist and far—right extremists are "two sides of the same coin" who loathe britain. voting closes in iran's elections, with officials saying turnout was around 40% — a record low. and american fashion icon iris apfel has died at the age of 102. the united nations says its team visiting gaza's largest hospital has met many people wounded by gunshots as they crowded around an aid convoy on thursday. there have been international calls for an investigation into the incident, in which more than 100 palestinians were reported killed. israel admits its forces opened fire, but said most of the deaths happened in a crush. one of the un team shared what he saw at the hospital.
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