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established. compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what has compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what has been compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what has been said compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what has been said this compensation scheme is established. let's get onto this with ben wilson. what has been said this morning? essentially it is saying as he set out there that it is recognising there has been a significant problem here. in fact it was nearly three years ago now that the parliamentary ombudsman there said that the delay to telling women about these changes was unacceptable. the ombudsman repeating those concerns today, using some very strong language as you set out, but stopping short of setting a figure on how much compensation women should be paid. campaigners had hoped that a figure might be included in this report. they hope that it might recommend some women could be paid more than £10,000 each because of the experiences they have had on this issue. the chair of the wasp —— the chair of the waspi campaign which
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starts for women as state pension and equality, says she is pleased parliament have been given a chance to discuss this properly, but says she is appalled that the government won't accept they have done something wrong. we won't accept they have done something wrong.— won't accept they have done something wrong. won't accept they have done somethin: wronu. ~ ., ., ., something wrong. we will now go to parliament — something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do _ something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do we _ something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do we have _ something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do we have any - something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do we have any idea - something wrong. we will now go to parliament. do we have any idea ofl parliament. do we have any idea of the time in that? the parliament. do we have any idea of the time in that?— parliament. do we have any idea of the time in that? the ombudsman say the time in that? the ombudsman say the are the time in that? the ombudsman say they are unable _ the time in that? the ombudsman say they are unable to _ the time in that? the ombudsman say they are unable to put _ the time in that? the ombudsman say they are unable to put a _ the time in that? the ombudsman say they are unable to put a timeframe i they are unable to put a timeframe on it. it will be for mps to now think about this, to take on what the ombudsman has said. one thing to bearin the ombudsman has said. one thing to bear in mind is that the women campaigning on this issue have had a lot of support from cross—party mps. there is an all—party parliamentary group set up to look at this issue, and it has found that these women have suffered some very severe consequences as a result of these changes, and the issues of communication specifically around these changes. they say these losses can be emotional and financial. some women told mps that they felt that
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they weren't believed, they felt undervalued and ignored, and as though they really had been poorly treated over this. in terms of the financial losses, one woman told that group of mps that she calculated she had lost £42,000 as a result of these changes, and i keep coming back to this point that the crucial thing is the amount of notice women were given of these changes. some women say they gave up full—timejobs in order changes. some women say they gave up full—time jobs in order to changes. some women say they gave up full—timejobs in order to look after elderly relatives and then found out about the changes. the ombudsman had previously said that the government should have given these women two years more notice than they actually did. i these women two years more notice than they actually did.— than they actually did. i know this is on the app _ than they actually did. i know this is on the app happened _ than they actually did. i know this is on the app happened in - than they actually did. i know this is on the app happened in the - than they actually did. i know this| is on the app happened in the last hour, but any reaction from those affected? we hour, but any reaction from those affected? ~ . ., u, , affected? we are hearing calls cominu affected? we are hearing calls coming into — affected? we are hearing calls coming into five _ affected? we are hearing calls coming into five live. - affected? we are hearing calls coming into five live. one - affected? we are hearing calls i coming into five live. one woman told nicky campbell that these women
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just needed this money now. she was clearly frustrated by what she saw as another delay in this very long running process. the investigation began more than eight years ago. and these women were hoping that there could be a figure set by the ombudsman today. i think having listened to mps discussing this in parliament last week, they went to have held out that much hope. there was a westminster hall debate at westminster last week and the government at westminster was repeatedly asked to commit to adopting any recommendations made by the ombudsman, and he repeatedly declined to do so. he did say that theissue declined to do so. he did say that the issue was a top priority for the government, and he pointed to various ways in which the government had been supporting women who had lost money. he talked about cost of living payments which were available for the most vulnerable women. for
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the moment. _ for the most vulnerable women. for the moment, thank you very much in the moment, thank you very much in the newsroom. the chair of waspi is called angela madden and she spoke to the bbc a few minutes ago to share her reaction to the report. and please the report is finally out. this investigation has gone on for five long years and it is three years ago that it was found out they had been maladministration. so living kids considering the evidence on injustice for a long time. i'm pleased that he recognises there has been injustice. we certainly gave him evidence of the injustices we'd suffered. even women who were divorced and had their divorce settlements around about 2010, 2012, their divorce settlements were based on their state pension age of 60. had thejudiciary at on their state pension age of 60. had the judiciary at the time known
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about pension age changes, then their divorce settlements would have been based on their actual state pension age and not what it had been historically. so there is plenty of evidence that there was significant injustice. and it is good that the ombudsman has recognised that. i'm really pleased that parliament have a chance to put this right. because they are the people who represent us. the all—party parliamentary group provided evidence to the ombudsman�*s inquiry and they have suggested that compensation could be at level six of the severity of injustice scale. that would mean each woman affected would have a minimum of £10,000. if that was 3.6 million, that would be a huge amount of money. it is £36 billion which is eye watering li huge. but the
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government saved £181 billion by sneaking the back door, by trying to get away without actually telling us, because i am sure that was a political choice.— political choice. that is the chair a . ainst political choice. that is the chair against women _ political choice. that is the chair against women against - political choice. that is the chair against women against state - political choice. that is the chair - against women against state pension injustice. let us speak to one of those who missed out on their pension and has still not had it. she is 65 and joins us from dorset. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. could ifirst get your reaction to the ombudsman�*s report? i think it is absolutely marvellous but i'm _ i think it is absolutely marvellous but i'm not— i think it is absolutely marvellous but i'm not going to be popping any champagne corks and blowing up balloons — champagne corks and blowing up balloons just yet. partly because it took them — balloons just yet. partly because it took them five — eight years to reach — took them five — eight years to reach this_ took them five — eight years to reach this stage. so how long are we going _ reach this stage. so how long are we going to _ reach this stage. so how long are we going to have to wait for the figure that we _ going to have to wait for the figure that we should be receiving? it kind
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of makes _ that we should be receiving? it kind of makes you think are they waiting for more _ of makes you think are they waiting for more of— of makes you think are they waiting for more of us to pass away so it is going _ for more of us to pass away so it is going to _ for more of us to pass away so it is going to lessen the bill. is this going — going to lessen the bill. is this going to — going to lessen the bill. is this going to now drag on and on and done? _ going to now drag on and on and done? and — going to now drag on and on and done? and that is my worry. yes, it has been _ done? and that is my worry. yes, it has been proven that they should be compensating us, but when? you know, they are _ compensating us, but when? you know, they are just— compensating us, but when? you know, they are just going to drag it on and on — they are just going to drag it on and on and _ they are just going to drag it on and on and on. we not going to go away _ and on and on. we not going to go away i'm — and on and on. we not going to go away. i'm really pleased about the report, _ away. i'm really pleased about the report, but — away. i'm really pleased about the report, but i'm very cautious as to when _ report, but i'm very cautious as to when. angela quite rightly said, if they gave — when. angela quite rightly said, if they gave us all that figure that has been — they gave us all that figure that has been tempted out, around 10,000, it is a _ has been tempted out, around 10,000, it is a huge _ has been tempted out, around 10,000, it is a huge amount, but what has happened — it is a huge amount, but what has happened to all of the money we paid in? if_ happened to all of the money we paid in? if i_ happened to all of the money we paid in? if i did _ happened to all of the money we paid in? if i did been able to retire at 60, in? if i did been able to retire at 60. and—
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in? if i did been able to retire at 60, and like a lot of ladies, i found— 60, and like a lot of ladies, i found out— 60, and like a lot of ladies, i found out totally by accident at the a -e found out totally by accident at the age of— found out totally by accident at the age of 58~ — found out totally by accident at the age of 58. by then it was too late to do— age of 58. by then it was too late to do anything. a conversation with a friend _ to do anything. a conversation with a friend who — to do anything. a conversation with a friend who had had a conversation with a _ a friend who had had a conversation with a friend. and i was completely horrified _ with a friend. and i was completely horrified because it was too late to actuatty _ horrified because it was too late to actuatty do — horrified because it was too late to actually do anything. and what they did was— actually do anything. and what they did was wrong. what they did was absolutely wrong. they could have had a _ absolutely wrong. they could have had a pen— absolutely wrong. they could have had a pen and a pad and a paper and an envelope— had a pen and a pad and a paper and an envelope and a stamp and sent it to all— an envelope and a stamp and sent it to all of— an envelope and a stamp and sent it to all of us_ an envelope and a stamp and sent it to all of us in— an envelope and a stamp and sent it to all of us in 1995 when they came up to all of us in 1995 when they came up with— to all of us in 1995 when they came up with this — to all of us in 1995 when they came up with this decision and let us all know _ up with this decision and let us all know and — up with this decision and let us all know. and we would have all been prepared — know. and we would have all been prepared. it would have cost him an awful— prepared. it would have cost him an awful lot _ prepared. it would have cost him an awful lot less at the time to have informed — awful lot less at the time to have informed people properly by sending out a letter than it is going to cost — out a letter than it is going to cost them _ out a letter than it is going to cost them now. you know, if i had retired _ cost them now. you know, if i had retired at — cost them now. you know, if i had retired at 60, like i had always
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been _ retired at 60, like i had always been led — retired at 60, like i had always been led to believe, between 60 and 66, i would _ been led to believe, between 60 and 66, iwould have had £47,000. so, say the _ 66, iwould have had £47,000. so, say the average 45, times that by 3.8 say the average 45, times that by 58 million— say the average 45, times that by 3.8 million women, where has all that money— 3.8 million women, where has all that money gone? where has it gone? they must— that money gone? where has it gone? they must have the money somewhere that we _ they must have the money somewhere that we have all paid in, so where has it— that we have all paid in, so where has it gone? _ that we have all paid in, so where has it gone?— that we have all paid in, so where has it one? ~ ., y., ., ~ has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman — has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman today _ has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman today to _ has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman today to have _ has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman today to have put - has it gone? would you have like the ombudsman today to have put a - has it gone? would you have like the i ombudsman today to have put a figure on the amount that you should have got? because in the report, it suggests that in some of the sample cases it could be between 1000 and 3000, but they have not put a figure for everyone, and they are pushing that back to parliament to seemingly decide because the department for
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work and pensions has refused to say that they will pay out, and they are saying that's an acceptable. i that they will pay out, and they are saying that's an acceptable.- saying that's an acceptable. i think it is another— saying that's an acceptable. i think it is another delaying _ saying that's an acceptable. i think it is another delaying tactic. - saying that's an acceptable. i think it is another delaying tactic. the i it is another delaying tactic. the ombudsman should have said, they are all going _ ombudsman should have said, they are all going to _ ombudsman should have said, they are all going to get 5000, 10,000. but i suppose _ all going to get 5000, 10,000. but i suppose you have to get on board 'ust suppose you have to get on board just how — suppose you have to get on board just how badly people were affected. by just how badly people were affected. by the _ just how badly people were affected. by the time they have worked out some _ by the time they have worked out some system of defining how badly certain— some system of defining how badly certain people were affected and so on, certain people were affected and so on that— certain people were affected and so on, that make merry down the road wasn't _ on, that make merry down the road wasn't affected so much so she can have _ wasn't affected so much so she can have an _ wasn't affected so much so she can have an apology, and someone else was really— have an apology, and someone else was really badly affected so she can -et was really badly affected so she can get 10,000. by the time it worked out that— get 10,000. by the time it worked out that system, we are going to be another— out that system, we are going to be another ten — out that system, we are going to be another ten years down the line. something really kind of needs to be sorted _ something really kind of needs to be sorted now. you know, they are
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putting — sorted now. you know, they are putting it — sorted now. you know, they are putting it back to parliament and i'm just — putting it back to parliament and i'm just wondering how much longer that we've _ i'm just wondering how much longer that we've got to wait. what they did was— that we've got to wait. what they did was unfair, totally and uttertym _ did was unfair, totally and utterly... and i'm not talking about bringing _ utterly... and i'm not talking about bringing us— utterly... and i'm not talking about bringing us in line with the guys, that is— bringing us in line with the guys, that is something that should have happened. although what does kind of amused _ happened. although what does kind of amused me as they raised the male pension— amused me as they raised the male pension age from 65 to 66, one year, they raised _ pension age from 65 to 66, one year, they raised us from 60 to 66, six years _ they raised us from 60 to 66, six years and — they raised us from 60 to 66, six years. and i've always wondered why they didn't _ years. and i've always wondered why they didn't do it 62 and then... is a sin _ they didn't do it 62 and then... is a sin they— they didn't do it 62 and then... is a sin. they didn't. guys had to wait one year— a sin. they didn't. guys had to wait one year and — a sin. they didn't. guys had to wait one year and we've had to wait six years _ one year and we've had to wait six ears. �* . one year and we've had to wait six ears, �* ., ., , one year and we've had to wait six ears. . . ., , , one year and we've had to wait six ears. ~ . , years. and what has been the impact on ou years. and what has been the impact on you personally — years. and what has been the impact on you personally in _ years. and what has been the impact on you personally in your _ years. and what has been the impact on you personally in your life? - years. and what has been the impact on you personally in your life? the i on you personally in your life? the fact that you are obviously planned
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for a certain age and then it got increased? i for a certain age and then it got increased?— for a certain age and then it got increased? . , , , increased? i have been self-employed for a very long — increased? i have been self-employed for a very long time _ increased? i have been self-employed for a very long time and _ increased? i have been self-employed for a very long time and quite - increased? i have been self-employed for a very long time and quite a - for a very long time and quite a physical and public facing occupation. i started suffering quite badly with arthritis. i was looking forward to the day when i could get my pension and at least i could get my pension and at least i could have a rest. how it has impacted me is that in order to have the same standard of living, which is not a frivolous standard of living, it's a normal commerce comfortable standard. pay the bills, a holiday, nothing frivolous or over—the—top. it meant that i still have to work through a lot of pain. a lot of pain. i had no choice. i did, and it was hobson's choice. i could either, when the pain got so bad, i could either give up and not
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have a very good quality of life because, you know, you'd have to think about cutting down on so many things. but obviously, i would think about cutting down on so many things. but obviously, iwould not have had to drag myself out of bed and done the job. have had to drag myself out of bed and done thejob. but have had to drag myself out of bed and done the job. but again, have had to drag myself out of bed and done thejob. but again, lack have had to drag myself out of bed and done the job. but again, lack of quality—of—life. because of a lack of money. 0r quality—of—life. because of a lack of money. or the other choice was to carry on working to the degree i was working and still not have any quality. be able to pay the bills but still not have any quality of life because of the arthritis pain. which some days is awful. and you just have to get on with it, so that is the impact i have had to carry on working through an awful lot of pain when... and it has been difficult. also, i had an ill father and it
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meant that i could not look after him. i still had to look after him. my him. i still had to look after him. my husband last year was diagnosed with lung cancer. thankfully, through the wonderful lung screening programme, they caught it very very small. but he is seven years older than me, so he had got a pension. but it meant ijust had to carry on working when really i could have done with time with him, you know? stay with us because i want to bring in another one of the women that have been affected by this. michelle, thank you very much for joining us on bbc news. i wondered first of all as they did with karen, just ask you about your reaction to the ombudsman report today. i’ere the ombudsman report today. i've 'ust seen the ombudsman report today. i've just seen that. _ the ombudsman report today. i've just seen that. it's good they are recommending compensation for sure, but i would _ recommending compensation for sure, but i would definitely be expecting more _
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but i would definitely be expecting more than that which has been suggested. are more than that which has been suggested-— more than that which has been su~ested. . . ., suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, _ suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, about _ suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, about the _ suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, about the time - suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, about the time it i suggested. are you concerned now, like karen was, about the time it is| like karen was, about the time it is going to take the parliament to decide what to do, because the other bits and has basically said that the department for work and pensions has said it is not going to pay out, this is unexpected acceptable so we have to push it back to parliament to decide. , .., ., to decide. yes, i could hear the last speaker. — to decide. yes, i could hear the last speaker, and _ to decide. yes, i could hear the last speaker, and yes _ to decide. yes, i could hear the last speaker, and yes i - to decide. yes, i could hear the last speaker, and yes i think. last speaker, and yes i think that is exactly— last speaker, and yes i think that is exactly it. it has all been dragged _ is exactly it. it has all been dragged out and dragged along. you know. _ dragged out and dragged along. you know, anything that they can do to -et know, anything that they can do to get this— know, anything that they can do to get this settled is what we need. and certainly, from what i have had to deal— and certainly, from what i have had to deal with, the lack of pension till a _ to deal with, the lack of pension till a very— to deal with, the lack of pension till a very late stage, it is essential.— till a very late stage, it is essential. . ., , ., ., , . essential. can i ask you what effect it has had on _ essential. can i ask you what effect it has had on your _ essential. can i ask you what effect it has had on your story, _ essential. can i ask you what effect it has had on your story, and - essential. can i ask you what effect it has had on your story, and what. it has had on your story, and what work you are in, what you decided to do and the effect it has had on you? yes, i was in a senior role in education _ yes, i was in a senior role in
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education, and at the age of 59, i had a _ education, and at the age of 59, i had a heart — education, and at the age of 59, i had a heart attack and from then none _ had a heart attack and from then none that— had a heart attack and from then none that was the end of my career. in the _ none that was the end of my career. in the normal— none that was the end of my career. in the normal course of events, i would _ in the normal course of events, i would have — in the normal course of events, i would have been able to have my state _ would have been able to have my state pension because i wasjust a little _ state pension because i wasjust a little of— state pension because i wasjust a little of 60, but even at that stage. — little of 60, but even at that stage, the pension had already been pulled _ stage, the pension had already been pulled along to around 6364 for my .ear pulled along to around 6364 for my gear group. i was pulled along to around 6364 for my gear group. iwas born pulled along to around 6364 for my gear group. i was born in 1954, right— gear group. i was born in 1954, right at— gear group. i was born in 1954, right at the _ gear group. i was born in 1954, right at the beginning. and there was this— right at the beginning. and there was this staggering at the beginning. then, just as we were getting _ beginning. then, just as we were getting to — beginning. then, just as we were getting to grips with that, suddenly in 2011, _ getting to grips with that, suddenly in 2011, the coalition had upped it for my— in 2011, the coalition had upped it for my age — in 2011, the coalition had upped it for my age group by a significant amount, — for my age group by a significant amount, another couple of years nearly _ amount, another couple of years nearly so — amount, another couple of years nearly. so that has had a terrible effect _ nearly. so that has had a terrible effect. right at the start, i had no way of— effect. right at the start, i had no way of paying my mortgage. i had to id way of paying my mortgage. i had to go and _ way of paying my mortgage. i had to go and say— way of paying my mortgage. i had to go and say with my son so i could rent _ go and say with my son so i could rent my— go and say with my son so i could rent my property and keep that going — rent my property and keep that going. luckily for me, i have had
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some _ going. luckily for me, i have had some great— going. luckily for me, i have had some great intervention with our marvellous national health specialists and i am 0k, marvellous national health specialists and i am ok, but i had never— specialists and i am ok, but i had never been — specialists and i am ok, but i had never been able to work very much since _ never been able to work very much since then — never been able to work very much since then, because obviously i suffer— since then, because obviously i suffer with angina and had a second heart _ suffer with angina and had a second heart attack. ijust want suffer with angina and had a second heart attack. i just want to suffer with angina and had a second heart attack. ijust want to say i think— heart attack. ijust want to say i think this — heart attack. ijust want to say i think this is _ heart attack. ijust want to say i think this is the whole reason why the 1940 — think this is the whole reason why the 1940 bill of bringing the pensions for women at 60 really works _ pensions for women at 60 really works it — pensions for women at 60 really works. it really worked for women because _ works. it really worked for women because we — works. it really worked for women because we have less opportunity to create _ because we have less opportunity to create private pensions. we raise children — create private pensions. we raise children i— create private pensions. we raise children. i raised a child, spent a lot of— children. i raised a child, spent a lot of time — children. i raised a child, spent a lot of time without income doing that and — lot of time without income doing that and raised a wonderful human being _ that and raised a wonderful human being at— that and raised a wonderful human being at no— that and raised a wonderful human being at no cost to the government. and i— being at no cost to the government. and i would — being at no cost to the government. and i would have thought that having made _ and i would have thought that having made pension would have made a huge difference _ made pension would have made a huge difference. and also this nonsense whereby— difference. and also this nonsense whereby we won't even really properly— whereby we won't even really properly informed. i learned my pension— properly informed. i learned my pension had gone up beyond 60 i think— pension had gone up beyond 60 i think when i was about in my 50s,
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but most — think when i was about in my 50s, but most of— think when i was about in my 50s, but most of my friends didn't know. i found _ but most of my friends didn't know. i found out — but most of my friends didn't know. i found out about it quite by accident. _ i found out about it quite by accident, and everybody... i can remember— accident, and everybody... i can remember the conversations at the time _ remember the conversations at the time. everyone was quite taken aback — time. everyone was quite taken aback. �* time. everyone was quite taken aback. . , ., time. everyone was quite taken aback. . , ., ., , ., time. everyone was quite taken aback. . ., aback. are you hopeful that you will aet aback. are you hopeful that you will get compensation _ aback. are you hopeful that you will get compensation in _ aback. are you hopeful that you will get compensation in the _ aback. are you hopeful that you will get compensation in the end? - aback. are you hopeful that you willj get compensation in the end? well, there's the question. _ get compensation in the end? well, there's the question. i've _ get compensation in the end? well, there's the question. i've been hopeful— there's the question. i've been hopeful all the way along. luckily i have that — hopeful all the way along. luckily i have that. probably genetically as well, _ have that. probably genetically as well, i'm — have that. probably genetically as well, i'm a — have that. probably genetically as well, i'm a very hopeful person. i hope _ well, i'm a very hopeful person. i hope we — well, i'm a very hopeful person. i hope we will get something, but what it is looking like this morning highly— it is looking like this morning highly disappointing.- it is looking like this morning highly disappointing. it is looking like this morning hiuhl disauointina. ~ ., ., highly disappointing. would you have like the oddments _ highly disappointing. would you have like the oddments meant _ highly disappointing. would you have like the oddments meant to - highly disappointing. would you have like the oddments meant to go - like the oddments meant to go further. ~ , ,., , like the oddments meant to go further. ~ ,,., , , , ., further. absolutely, yes. -- would ou have further. absolutely, yes. -- would you have like _ further. absolutely, yes. -- would you have like the _ further. absolutely, yes. -- would you have like the ombudsman - further. absolutely, yes. -- would you have like the ombudsman to l further. absolutely, yes. -- would l you have like the ombudsman to go further? _ you have like the ombudsman to go further? ., , ., , further? you said the same is really ou've further? you said the same is really you've been — further? you said the same is really you've been affected _ further? you said the same is really you've been affected by. _ further? you said the same is really you've been affected by. are - further? you said the same is really you've been affected by. are you i you've been affected by. are you hopeful that you will get
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compensation eventually? you hopeful that you will get compensation eventually? hopeful that you will get com ensation eventuall ? ., compensation eventually? you live in ho e. we compensation eventually? you live in hope- we will- _ compensation eventually? you live in hope. we will. we _ compensation eventually? you live in hope. we will. we ladies _ compensation eventually? you live in hope. we will. we ladies will - compensation eventually? you live in hope. we will. we ladies will not - hope. we will. we ladies will not stop until we do. i think when this very first started, they thought we would go quietly away, but we won't. this campaign will continue until we do get something. we are pretty determined as women. this report today really should have given some sort of figure. i think it is horrendous that the dwp are saying it is unfair and it is not right. now you know how we feel. but we will get something because i have a feeling that us ladies are not going to stop until we do. what was done to stop until we do. what was done to us was wrong, totally wrong. and
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they need to put it right. and by golly, they need to put it right. and by golly, i think we are going to make sure that they do put it right. i’m sure that they do put it right. i'm auoin to sure that they do put it right. i'm going to bring michelle in. michelle would you like to say something to karen? i would you like to say something to karen? . , , would you like to say something to karen? .,, , . karen? i was 'ust agreeing completely. _ karen? i wasjust agreeing completely. it _ karen? i wasjust agreeing completely. it is _ karen? i wasjust agreeing completely. it is quite - karen? i wasjust agreeing | completely. it is quite clear karen? i wasjust agreeing - completely. it is quite clear that this whole business was never properly— this whole business was never properly researched. may be the first 1995— properly researched. may be the first 1995 decision, maybe they were researched _ first 1995 decision, maybe they were researched more, but the impact this has had _ researched more, but the impact this has had when they suddenly shut the a-e has had when they suddenly shut the age forward to beyond 65, i think, was reallym — age forward to beyond 65, i think, was really... it was too much, and people _ was really... it was too much, and people like — was really... it was too much, and people like me who were already unable _ people like me who were already unable to — people like me who were already unable to work and who are ill, which _ unable to work and who are ill, which is — unable to work and who are ill, which is not so unusual at my age, was not _ which is not so unusual at my age, was not taken into consideration. all this _ was not taken into consideration. all this talk about longevity and people — all this talk about longevity and people living longer, but maybe some people _ people living longer, but maybe some people are _ people living longer, but maybe some people are but it is certainly not happening in my family. i don't see
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any evidence of that. i'm hoping that given — any evidence of that. i'm hoping that given the mess that has now been _ that given the mess that has now been uncovered by waspi, which we must _ been uncovered by waspi, which we must be _ been uncovered by waspi, which we must be very grateful for, is fantastic— must be very grateful for, is fantastic what has happened here, that we _ fantastic what has happened here, that we have got to this pitch, i think— that we have got to this pitch, i think they— that we have got to this pitch, i think they are going to have to look at paying _ think they are going to have to look at paying something more. if i think about— at paying something more. if i think about the _ at paying something more. if i think about the fact that people of my age. _ about the fact that people of my age. just— about the fact that people of my age, just a phone a few months older than me _ age, just a phone a few months older than me did _ age, just a phone a few months older than me did get a pension in their early— than me did get a pension in their early 60s, — than me did get a pension in their early 60s, you know, and that sliding — early 60s, you know, and that sliding scale, and then there were years— sliding scale, and then there were years more — sliding scale, and then there were years more that i had to wait, will they have — years more that i had to wait, will they have had a lot more money from they have had a lot more money from the government, and why? a few moments's — the government, and why? a few moments's age difference? that does not make _ moments's age difference? that does not make sense. think that's why we were not— not make sense. think that's why we were not told anything, they were trying _ were not told anything, they were trying to _ were not told anything, they were trying to keep it quiet.— were not told anything, they were trying to keep it quiet. women who were born only _ trying to keep it quiet. women who were born only months _ trying to keep it quiet. women who were born only months apart. - trying to keep it quiet. women who were born only months apart. yes, | were born only months apart. yes, absolutely- — were born only months apart. yes, absolutely- to _ were born only months apart. yes, absolutely. to be _ were born only months apart. yes, absolutely. to be honest, - were born only months apart. yes, absolutely. to be honest, i- were born only months apart. 1a: absolutely. to be honest, ijust learnt about the sliding scale... we just didn't know anything. and that
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is not right. we should have been properly informed. if i had been informed in 1995, as i said earlier, if someone had put pen to paper and butter didn't stamp on the envelope, i could have made adequate provision. but without that knowledge, what chance did any of us stand? and i'd like to pick up on the point that, as a 50s lady, i was born in 1958, we have raise children, we have looked after a home, because it was very traditional, we have worked full time, a lot of us have had the burden of... burden is the wrong word, but we have looked after elderly parents while still working,
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while still helping children, and by the time we're 60, some of us were pretty much done. you know, my buddy started falling apart in the 50s, in my middle 50s, and i looked after two elderly parents were working, although children were grown up. i had my children quite early. i got grandchildren to help out so they could go to work to pay their mortgage. so we have done an awful lot. that does take toll on a body. so what they said about living longer, a lot of women, we are done. by longer, a lot of women, we are done. by the time we're 60, we are done. i'm sure that's also the case with you as it has taken a toll on your body as you have said. absolutely, yeah. we are now putting it back to parliament and we are now what is
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expected to be a general election year. do you think it could work in your favour or against you is parliament now has to decide what happens in terms of compensation for you? happens in terms of compensation for ou? ~ ., ., , ., , you? well, we wait to see what they decide to do — you? well, we wait to see what they decide to do and _ you? well, we wait to see what they decide to do and i'm _ you? well, we wait to see what they decide to do and i'm hopeful, - you? well, we wait to see what they decide to do and i'm hopeful, but i decide to do and i'm hopeful, but we'll— decide to do and i'm hopeful, but we'll see — decide to do and i'm hopeful, but we'll see. and may be other parties will come _ we'll see. and may be other parties will come up with other ideas, because — will come up with other ideas, because there has been these cross—party talks about this issue. i know _ cross—party talks about this issue. i know that — cross—party talks about this issue. i know that my mp who was a labour mp, i know that my mp who was a labour mp. she _ i know that my mp who was a labour mp, she actually used my case as it was quite _ mp, she actually used my case as it was quite a — mp, she actually used my case as it was quite a classic and extreme version — was quite a classic and extreme version of— was quite a classic and extreme version of what could happen, and i'm hopeful— version of what could happen, and i'm hopeful that one of the governments may be will come up with something _ governments may be will come up with something good. i don't know where their rishi _ something good. i don't know where their rishi sunak is going to sort it out— their rishi sunak is going to sort it out before the election, i'm not sure _
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it out before the election, i'm not sure -- — it out before the election, i'm not sure -- rishi— it out before the election, i'm not sure. —— rishi sunak's lot. it out before the election, i'm not sure. -- rishi sunak's lot.- sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank ou so sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank you so much _ sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank you so much for— sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank you so much forjoining - sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank you so much forjoining us i sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank you so much forjoining us on i sure. -- rishi sunak's lot. thank| you so much forjoining us on bbc news and giving us your reaction on the ombudsman report and giving us your stories. thank you very much indeed. of course we will have more throughout the day on this story and you can get the very latest on the bbc news website at where we have a live page up and running. you are watching bbc news and it is time for us to get a check on the weather with carol kirkwood. hello again. we had the warmest day of this year so far yesterday in england. the temperature reached 18.8 celsius in charlwood in surrey. now, today, it still is going to be mild in the south, but wet and windy conditions are already with us and have been with us all morning across parts of the north, and they're being provided by a cold front. and if you have a look at the spacing of these isobars, particularly across scotland and northern ireland, it tells you it's going to be a windy day, especially so across the far north. now, ahead of this band of rain, which is sweeping slowly southwards,
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we're looking at a fair bit of cloud around, but already we're seeing some sunny spells develop. and depending on the length of sunshine that we see, we could well hit 16 or 17 degrees somewhere in the south. but widely, we're looking at the low teens. through this evening and overnight, our cold front sinks further south with its cloud and rain. still brisk winds across scotland and northern ireland. under clearer skies it's going to be colder and we will also see some showers, some of those wintry on higher ground, but still mild in the south itself. tomorrow we start with cloud and rain across southern areas of england. it will be slow to clear, a lot of dry weather, a fair bit of sunshine, but there will be showers coming in. and again, we're looking at gales, especially so across the far north and especially the northern and western isles. some of those showers will be wintry on higher ground and temperatures 9 to about 12 degrees. then as we head into the weekend, it turns colder and windier, it will be quite a noticeable wind chill, but there'll also be some sunshine and showers.
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this is our cold front pulling away, taking the milder air represented by the yellows with it. and then we are all in the colder air represented by the blues with some weather fronts crossing us, enhancing the showers. so on saturday we'll start off with some dry weather, but there'll be a packet of showers coming in. some of those, again, wintry on higher ground, some snow on higher ground, some sleet, maybe even some hail, and some thunder and lightning as well. and with the strength of the wind and the direction of the wind, it will feel colder than these temperatures suggest. as we head into sunday, brisk winds, especially down the north sea coastline where we will start with some showers. but a ridge of high pressure builds in from the west, settling things down for a time before low pressure comes in later. and these are our temperatures, 7 to 12.
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not today. . . but when? the bank of england is set to leave interest rates at a 15—year high. but it's facing growing pressure to ease the cost of borrowing — after a fall in inflation. not least from the government. we have turned a corner after the shocks of the past few years, and we are in a new economic moment. a new report recommends the government should apologise
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and pay women affected by the increase in the state pension age. plus a tiny rival for big tech. cult social media platform reddit goes public with a valuation of over $6 billion. welcome to world business report. we start in the uk, where in around half an hour, we'll hear what the bank of england's intends to do about interest rates. they've have been on hold since last august, when they were hiked to tame soaring inflation. well, on wednesday we learned that inflation — the rate at which prices are rising — came down more sharply than expected last month — from 4% injanuary to 3.4% in february. that's a huge fall from its peak back in october 2022 — when inflation was running at three times that level — at 11% a year. inflation here in the uk is now at its lowest in two and a half years.
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but it is still above the target the bank

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