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summer games in paris. at the inquiry into the post office scandal — the uk's most widespread miscarriage of justice — a former senior manager has said he should not have claimed the horizon computer system was "robust and fit for purpose". because he was previously aware it could have caused misbalancing of cash accounts in all post offices across the country. david miller was chief operations officer of the post office in the early 2000s. more than 900 sub—postmasters were wrongly prosecuted for stealing because of incorrect information from a fujitsu computer system called horizon. news correspondent ellie price is at the inquiry — and joins us now.
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just take us through what she'd been hearing at the inquiry this morning. it's building on a theme that started last week from senior managers at the post office. today it was david miller he were benchley became the chief operating officer of the post office. he started his officer in 1970 as a trainee. he was a project director of the horizon it system and its implementation. he was in charge of how it was tested, how it was implemented in the late 19905. how it was implemented in the late 1990s. this morning's evidence was about how that testing wind, and there was off—line testing, and there was off—line testing, and there was off—line testing, and there was live testing with sub—postmasters. he was questioned about some of the bugs and faults that came up before the system was rolled out across the country. the
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inquiry heard that during the testing, some of these bugs, including the issue of how cash balances could be effectively changed in the accounts, how it had come to light even before the system went live. a lot of the question was whether it should be noted earlier and how it should have been flagged up and how it should have been flagged up as an issue. we can listen to a clip now. i should not have said it was robust. clip now. i should not have said it was robust-— clip now. i should not have said it was robust. ~ . , ., ., was robust. what is your position on whether you — was robust. what is your position on whether you did _ was robust. what is your position on whether you did say _ was robust. what is your position on whether you did say that? _ was robust. what is your position on whether you did say that? i - was robust. what is your position on whether you did say that? i can't - whether you did say that? i can't remember _ whether you did say that? i can't remember the _ whether you did say that? i can't remember the board _ whether you did say that? i can't remember the board meeting, i whether you did say that? i can't i remember the board meeting, but i rememberthe board meeting, but i make _ rememberthe board meeting, but i make the _ rememberthe board meeting, but i make the assumption that the board minutes_ make the assumption that the board minutes are correct, sol make the assumption that the board minutes are correct, so i did say it. y minutes are correct, so i did say it. , ~ ~ ., minutes are correct, so i did say it. sorry, mr miller, i want to be clear. it. sorry, mr miller, i want to be clear- you _ it. sorry, mr miller, i want to be clear. you don't _ it. sorry, mr miller, i want to be clear. you don't actually - it. sorry, mr miller, i want to be i clear. you don't actually remember what _ clear. you don't actually remember what you _ clear. you don't actually remember what you said. _ clear. you don't actually remember what you said. you _ clear. you don't actually remember what you said, you are _ clear. you don't actually remember what you said, you are prepared . clear. you don't actually remember what you said, you are prepared to| what you said, you are prepared to assume _ what you said, you are prepared to assume that— what you said, you are prepared to assume that the _ what you said, you are prepared to assume that the board _ what you said, you are prepared to
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assume that the board minutes - what you said, you are prepared to| assume that the board minutes are correct, _ assume that the board minutes are correct, and — assume that the board minutes are correct, and if_ assume that the board minutes are correct, and if they— assume that the board minutes are correct, and if they were _ assume that the board minutes are correct, and if they were correct, . correct, and if they were correct, you should — correct, and if they were correct, you should not _ correct, and if they were correct, you should not have _ correct, and if they were correct, you should not have said - correct, and if they were correct, you should not have said what i correct, and if they were correct, you should not have said what is| you should not have said what is recorded — you should not have said what is recorded ts— you should not have said what is recorded. , ., you should not have said what is recorded. , . ., ., ., recorded. is that it? i am afraid so, sir, recorded. is that it? i am afraid so. sir. yes- — recorded. is that it? i am afraid so, sir, yes. thank— recorded. is that it? i am afraid so, sir, yes. thank you. - recorded. is that it? i am afraid so, sir, yes. thank you. that i recorded. is that it? i am afraid i so, sir, yes. thank you. that was about a board _ so, sir, yes. thank you. that was about a board meeting _ so, sir, yes. thank you. that was about a board meeting held - so, sir, yes. thank you. that was about a board meeting held in i so, sir, yes. thank you. that was i about a board meeting held in 1990. there were prosecutions that were made for sub—postmasters in 1999, all the way up until 2015. this morning we've been hearing more on those early days of how that it system was first implemented. david miller went on to talk about how he regretted not notifying other parts of the business, like the lawyers in the post office that there were some issues being raised and some of the questions over exactly whether some of these errors were the fault of sub—postmasters or were it anomalies. in the last few minutes we've heard about the issue of one
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sub—postmaster prosecuted in the early 2000. that was settled by the post office on the basis and expert witness said there had been essentially, the post office wouldn't win its case against her. we heard from david miller there, he said he should have used that, he said he should have used that, he said it was a missed opportunity, a moment they should have looked into some of the issues being thrown up tjy some of the issues being thrown up by this it system, but at the time he said he thought it was just a one—off case. obviously there were eventually more than 900 people prosecuted because of the faults on the it system. at the time it was seen as being a one—off. this will continue until the next half—hour and into the afternoon we will hear from another senior managing director of the company, questions of who knew what and when.
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fascinating. we will be back with you for the testimony. he is due to be appearing before the inquiry, david mills, later. the sacred flame for the olympics has been lit at a ceremony in greece — ahead of its journey to paris. the event took place — as it always does — at the temple of hera, the birthplace of the games, in olympia. the weather was rather cloudy — but the flame was carried across the arena in a ceremonial pot — before being used to light a torch, carried by the first bearer — the greek gold—medal winning rower, stefanos n'touskos. it will now make its way to france, being taken around the country, before being used to light the olympic flame at the opening ceremony in paris, on the 26th ofjuly.
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lovely pictures. here in the uk, mps in the house of commons have voted to reject six amendments to the rwanda bill made by the house of lords. the controversial bill will now return to the upper chamber for further scrutiny later today. it comes as reports suggest the uk held talks with other countries, including armenia, about replicating the scheme. the bill, which declares the african country safe, is likely to pass this week. and comes as 534 migrants crossed the channel on sunday — the highest daily figure this year. live now to florence — and andrew geddes — director, at the migration policy centre. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. migration is a huge issue, not just for the uk but across the
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continent. how are different eu countries approaching the issue? i think a bit like the uk government, they are looking for a solution and they are looking for a solution and they been looking for a long time because ever since the last arrival of syrians in 2015, there's been disagreement between eu member states about the way to do things. what they have found most difficult is sharing responsibility amongst themselves, for instance asylum applicants. they are finding it easier to work with non—eu member states to stop people moving to the eu. i think the core of this european response is an attempt to sometimes put externalising controls. br; sometimes put externalising controls. j ., ., , controls. by that you mean stopping miaration controls. by that you mean stopping migration outsource? _ controls. by that you mean stopping migration outsource? that - controls. by that you mean stopping migration outsource? that is - controls. by that you mean stopping migration outsource? that is the i migration outsource? that is the idea. recently _ migration outsource? that is the idea. recently the _ migration outsource? that is the idea. recently the 7.4 _ migration outsource? that is the idea. recently the 7.4 billion i migration outsource? that is the i idea. recently the 7.4 billion euros agreement with the egyptian government, with efforts to get the
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egyptian authorities on board with measures to stop migrants from egypt to europe. similar deals in tunisia and libya, so the eu was interested in pursuing these external solutions.— in pursuing these external solutions. ~ ., ., .,~ ., solutions. what do you make on the re orts solutions. what do you make on the reports the — solutions. what do you make on the reports the uk _ solutions. what do you make on the reports the uk has _ solutions. what do you make on the reports the uk has been _ solutions. what do you make on the reports the uk has been talking i solutions. what do you make on the reports the uk has been talking to l reports the uk has been talking to countries such as armenia about replicating its proposed scheme involving rwanda? irate replicating its proposed scheme involving rwanda?— replicating its proposed scheme involving rwanda? we know these discussions _ involving rwanda? we know these discussions have _ involving rwanda? we know these discussions have been _ involving rwanda? we know these discussions have been going i involving rwanda? we know these discussions have been going on i involving rwanda? we know these| discussions have been going on for involving rwanda? we know these i discussions have been going on for a long time with a large number of countries, and so did numbers that could be sent to rwanda if it were to be a solution, as the government see gates, people arriving into the uk, using rwanda couldn't possibly be the solution given the number of people. if there were to be a remedy, it would require getting other countries on board. as we have seen from wanda macro, it is a long
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process and we know other countries has been approached —— seen from rwanda. irate has been approached -- seen from rwanda. ~ , ., ,': rwanda. we were 'ust saying that 534 mi . rants rwanda. we were 'ust saying that 534 migrants crossed i rwanda. we were just saying that 534 migrants crossed the _ rwanda. we were just saying that 534 migrants crossed the channel- rwanda. we were just saying that 534 migrants crossed the channel on i migrants crossed the channel on sunday, the highest daily figure this year. in terms of movement, are the numbers increasing again at this time of year?— time of year? there's been a high number of — time of year? there's been a high number of asylum _ time of year? there's been a high number of asylum applicants i time of year? there's been a high l number of asylum applicants across european union, numbers more than1 million in the eu. we know boat crossings are a seasonal components, crossings are a seasonal components, across crossings are a seasonal components, across the channel and the mediterranean into italy, greece and spain. the pressure from surrounding states is quite high because of the factors that can drive this kind of movement, war, inability, inequality.
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movement, war, inability, inequality-— movement, war, inability, ineuuali. ., inequality. those are powerful forces. andrew, _ inequality. those are powerful forces. andrew, we _ inequality. those are powerful forces. andrew, we will i inequality. those are powerful forces. andrew, we will have i inequality. those are powerful. forces. andrew, we will have to leave it there. it is good to hear your insights. now to india where the general election begins on friday this week. most predictions suggest prime minister narendra modi will win another resounding victory — his third consecutive mandate. while mr modi is a controversial figure, he has amassed a huge following of supporters, almost unparalleled in contemporary india. from the uttar pradesh state which is a stronghold of mr modi's bjp party, the bbc�*s south asia correspondent yogita limaye reports. lorenzo moji is the reigning superstar of indian politics. rallies like these are an integral part of an injured election that only a few leaders have such a response in the country's history. what we are seeing is the confidence
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of a party that very much believes it will win another resounding victory, and what we have also seen is confident about being indian on the global stage, one of the things prime and modri tanya will be about. mrmodri isa mr modri is a divisive figure, but here among his mostly hindu following he can do no wrong. translation: he following he can do no wrong. translation:— following he can do no wrong. translation: , ~ ., ., translation: he is like a god, he has made me _ translation: he is like a god, he has made me feel _ translation: he is like a god, he has made me feel safe. _ translation: he is like a god, he has made me feel safe. he - translation: he is like a god, he has made me feel safe. he is i translation: he is like a god, he has made me feel safe. he is a i translation: he is like a god, he | has made me feel safe. he is a good seaker has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and — has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and he _ has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and he has _ has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and he has built _ has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and he has built trains i has made me feel safe. he is a good speaker and he has built trains and l speaker and he has built trains and roads _ speaker and he has built trains and roads no — speaker and he has built trains and roads. no one had done that until now _ roads. no one had done that until now. �* ., , . roads. no one had done that until now. �* . , . ., , now. building infrastructure has been one of— now. building infrastructure has been one of the _ now. building infrastructure has been one of the strands - now. building infrastructure has been one of the strands of- now. building infrastructure has been one of the strands of mr i been one of the strands of mr modri's government. a few miles from the rally, we saw a road that was made just over a year the rally, we saw a road that was madejust over a year ago.
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the rally, we saw a road that was made just over a year ago. we the rally, we saw a road that was madejust over a year ago. we met a farmer transporting his produce. translation: we farmer transporting his produce. translation:— farmer transporting his produce. translation: ~ ., , ., translation: we can move freely now and security is — translation: we can move freely now and security is better _ translation: we can move freely now and security is better as _ translation: we can move freely now and security is better as well. _ and security is better as well. unemployment and price rise are big issues for us. the unemployment and price rise are big issues for us— issues for us. the realities on the round issues for us. the realities on the ground might _ issues for us. the realities on the ground might be _ issues for us. the realities on the ground might be mixed. - issues for us. the realities on the ground might be mixed. but i issues for us. the realities on the ground might be mixed. but the. ground might be mixed. but the picture that reaches voters is one the ruling party wants people to see. mr modri's company has an unparalleled campaign, door—to—door and on social media. it is a crucial power to influence what people believe to be true. ultimately, it will affect how they vote. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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uoh watching bbc news with me, sarah campbell. to china next, and the german chancellor olaf scholz has been holding trade talks in beijing with president xi jinping, on the final day of his visit to china. state media reported that mr xi said that bilateral ties would continue to develop, as long as both sides respected each other, and sought common ground. the visit is aimed at shoring up berlin's economic ties with its biggest trading partner. our beijing corresponent laura bicker has more. olaf schulz came to china with a clear message — we will do business with beijing, but they want china to play fair. now, what he means by this is there is real concern, both in europe and the united states, that china has subsidised its green technologies. now, by that i mean solar panels,
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electric vehicles, wind turbines, and that has driven costs down. i mean, the cost of a solar panel has been halved in the last year. china produces more than 80% of the world's solar panels. about half of all their exports go to europe. and that's one of the reasons why european businesses are very worried, because they believe that china is driving those costs down and driving them out of business. so the clear message coming from europe is they want china to play fair. now, china's argument to this is that it's not state subsidies that are helping reduce the costs of their solar panels. it's their own innovation. they say they are good at this. this is something that people want to buy and they are providing a product. they also say that cheap solar panels are good for the likes of africa, southeast asia, as well as their customers in europe and the united states. so what we're seeing is the edge of what some fear are new trade
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tensions between east and west. now, what olaf scholz didn't say is that he supported new tariffs, new curbs against chinese goods. he stopped short of that. other european leaders are calling for more measures and more tariffs to be put on chinese goods, as have the united states. so we'll have to see how things play out over the coming weeks, whether or not europe will decide that china needs to curb its production and whether china is making too much. i want to bring you some news about the prince of wales, prince william is who it has been announced will be making his first official engagement since the princess of wales revealed her cancer diagnosis. you will remember that happened last month. over the last three and a half
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weeks, prince william has spent time with his wife and their three children during the easter holidays as catherine undergoes preventative chemotherapy. they been out of the public eye in private. what the palace have released is that prince william will visit a surplus food redistribution charity in sunbury on thames, in surrey on thursday. it is called surplus to supper. he will travel to a youth centre in west london which benefits from the organisation. just an update on prince william having spent the last three and half weeks with his wife who revealed her cancer diagnosis. he will return and it will be his first official engagement since that diagnosis was made public.
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a whistle—blower who's battled elon musk and tesla through the courts for a decade, has told the bbc she is still seeking a public apology for how she was treated after raising safety concerns about its vehicles. until 2014, ms balan was a rising star at tesla in the us. she's been speaking to our technology editor zoe kleinman. i was the only woman in the team, like, engineering, and in the beginning, it was great. in the early days, cristina balan was doing so well at tesla, her initials were engraved on the car's batteries. but she says it wasn't long before things took a turn for the worse. everything went south when i realised that they were hiding some critical safety issues. she claims they pretended that they didn't know. and you decided to go right to the top. you went to elon musk himself? i tried to. and what exactly was the safety concern? they realised that they make a design engineering mistake on the carpet.
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you know that every carpets that you have on under the adults and in the front of the car. so what happened is those carpets, they were curling under the brake and under the acceleration. cristina further claims that she'd heard there were complaints made about this issue. so she believes tesla was aware of it. she claims that when she shared her worries, tesla's management turned hostile. she lost herjob, sued the firm and won. but then tesla did something unexpected. they dared to accuse me of serious crimes, like embezzlement. theyjust purely invented those with one scope in mind, to give a lesson to everybody who dare to speak up. tesla said in a public statement that cristina had used company resources for a secret project. she denies this, and the firm has never provided proof. what do you want to get out of this now? this long—running battle with this company? i want to clear my name.
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i wish elon musk had the decency to apologise. i am battling the most aggressive type of breast cancer and elon musk and their lawyers knows that. and they were willing to allow a little boy, i'm his hero for him. you know, i'm the mummy who does aeroplanes and cars. to let my memory of me for him be shadow forever that his mum stole from tesla. and i want to do something for all the cancer patients out there and especially breast cancer patients. now you're setting me off. my goodness. bbc news put her claims to tesla,
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but the firm has not responded. on its website, tesla says safety is the most important part of every tesla. "we design our vehicles to exceed safety standards." tesla would have done the right thing for so many times, for so many years, and they didn't. it'll now be up to the california courts to decide the next chapter for cristina, who's currently in remission from her cancer. but there's no court date set yet. zoe kleinman, bbc news. her stay in number 10 lasted just 45 days — before liz truss was forced to stand down as prime minister in 2022, following a mini budget that sparked economic turmoil. now, in a new interview ahead of the release of her book, she's revealed her hopes of a donald trump victory in the upcoming us election,and admitted how she'd welcome nigel farage as a tory mp. she's been speaking to our political editor chris mason. talk directly to the viewer, the listener who, whatever their politics, says that your time as prime minister left the uk as an international laughing stock.
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well, i don't... i don't think that's true. but you lasted, all the stuff about lasting less time than a lettuce. this isjust, this isjust pathetic, you know, point scoring. address directly, our viewer or listener who looks back 18 months and remembers that mini budget and blames you for mortgages going sky high, for the country feeling poorer, for the economy getting into a spin and say that you were the author of that and it was a disaster. well, the mortgages getting higher was a phenomenon that was happening around the world. interest rates were going up, they'd been too low for too long. and in fact, it was a failure of the bank of england not to put them up earlier, which would have helped stemmed inflation. but it was your actions that led to that spiralling economic mess. well, i don't agree with that. i don't agree with that. but the markets went into turmoil, you had to sack your chancellor, you were gone within a few weeks. what happened was we put
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forward the mini budget, which was about addressing the economic problems britain had, because the fact is growth was not high enough, there wasn't enough money coming into the exchequer. that meant squeezes on public services. you had the bank of england, which was running monetary policy, actively not supporting what the government was doing. do you think andrew bailey, the governor, should be out? well, i don't... i don't support his continuation in thejob, no. we didn't know we were sitting on a tinderbox. mm, which you set fire to. well, i'm not sure... ijust wonder if it is all sounds like you're looking for somebody else to blame. well, i do believe that... i mean, what i am saying is, yes... it was somebody else's fault? well, i'm not saying i'm perfect and, you know, nobody�*s perfect. it's all very well saying, "liz, do you accept any of the blame?" i'm frankly not going to let them get off the hook. you talk in the book
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about the deep state. i mean, isn't that to indulge in conspiracy theory kind of quackery? well, it's a description of a group of people, an orthodoxy, a groupthink, that is not accountable to electors. you offer plenty of praise of donald trump in the book. do you hope he wins again in the autumn? yes, i do. why? because i believe that we need a strong america. under donald trump, when he was president of the united states, the world was safer. let's talk about a couple of things in the news this week. the smoking ban that rishi sunak is suggesting, this idea that over time a growing amount of the population can no longer legally buy cigarettes. you're not a fan. does this suggest that rishi sunak, in your view, is a conservative in name only?
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my view is that we should absolutely protect children from damage and danger while they are developing decision making capabilities. but we're a free country, we shouldn't be telling people not to smoke. and i worry about where it will lead, you know... so it's unconservative, as you see it? fascinating interview there. do stay here on bbc news. it's not been as windy, showers around. in the atlantic, we have high pressure and there is some cloud coming in, some of it later tonight and tomorrow. we've still got the north—westerly winds,
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feeding in this colder air and a mixture of sunshine and showers, some which could be heavy and threatening clouds, and we will have some heavier showers into the south—east of england. these are the temperatures, still below—average, could make double figures, 14 in south wales. heavier showers towards the end of the afternoon, those in the end of the afternoon, those in the south—east moving away and another band of showers pushing across northern england and wales and further wintry showers overnight in scotland. some clearer spells as well, and the wind is easing down, so a chilly day with a frost more likely across the northern half of the uk. into tomorrow, the cloud coming from the atlantic bringing a little rain to northern ireland and into wales. elsewhere, after a bright city star, the cloud builds up bright city star, the cloud builds up and more showers breaking out, not heavy as the past couple of days. if anything, after the cold
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start, temperatures a bit lower in the afternoon, typically only 10 degrees on wednesday. that cloud comes on the weather front which sinks its way southwards, another weather front arrives into thursday morning for northern parts of the uk. with clear skies, and light winds, the risk of a touch of frost. a sunny start but more cloud for scotland and northern ireland, some outbreaks of rain, the heavier ones on the hills of scotland. some pusher southwards with the sunshine hanging on towards the south—west. temperatures typically around 12 degrees. the weather system bring in the rain will move quickly southwards overnight and during friday. then we get the high pressure in the atlantic finally building back towards the uk. that will bring some much—needed dry weather in time for the weekend. it could bring a fair bit of cloud, and
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certainly not as warm as last weekend.
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today at one — mps are about to debate some of the strictest proposed anti—smoking laws in the world. the prime minister wants to make it illegal for anyone currently 15 or younger to ever buy tobacco. the proposed law also talks about children and vaping. we'll have the latest from westminster. also on the programme...
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the number of people out of work in the uk has risen and more people and more people cannot work because of long—term sickness. a muslim student loses a high court challenge to a ban on prayers at their north london school. a once in a decade opportunity — we'll tell you where you can see this unusual plant, now in flower forjust a few days. and the olympic flame is lit in olympia in greece at the start of its journey to the games in paris this summer. and coming up on bbc news... they have the advantage in the premier league title race, but can manchester city overcome real madrid in the champions league tomorrow night? hello and welcome to the bbc news at one.
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mps will debate legislation shortly which would give the uk some

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