resettlement scheme, the legal means by which they might come to the uk. we will take you to the comments very shortly. first, the latest headlines. but the house of commons and house of lords are sitting in westminster tonight about on the government's rwanda bill. pretty soon i can first flight carrying migrants could take off in 10—12 weeks. opposition laws have been trying to amend the bill, with mps than voting to overturn those proposed changes. opening arguments have begun in donald trump's criminal trial in new york. his lawyers say no crime was committed. an independent report into the un pass agency for palestinian refugees is found it needs to improve the way it vets its staff and do more to ensure neutrality. israel, which is claimed more than 2000 workers at unrwa were of the militant group hamas, has

rejected the report. and huw edwards has resigned from the bbc. he says he is leaving on the medical advice of his doctors. he had been off air since lastjuly. the bbc has confirmed that he has not received a payoff as part of his departure. so we could be in for a late night in westminster. let me tell you what has been happening in the last few minutes. there has been another bout, another division in the house of lords. i think i can show you live pictures from the lords. they have voted 240 in favour, 2ii have voted 240 in favour, 211 against on resubmitting an amendment to the bill. this was the amendment that would mean rwanda could only be declared a safe country after an independent report. the second amendment which was removed from the bill earlier as part of this ping—pong process where it goes from the comments to the lords, the second amendment on whether or not

afghan veterans who had served with uk forces should be allowed to stay in the country. the government has made some movement on that to the satisfaction of the labour peers, so it would appear that amendment has been dropped. just won an amendment so far. it goes back to the comments to be debated. let's go to the lobby and speak to peter saul, who has a guest with him in the lobby. on the 90, guest with him in the lobby. on the go, peter. i guest with him in the lobby. on the no, peter. . , , go, peter. i have 'ust seen the metaphorical— go, peter. i have just seen the metaphorical ping-pong - go, peter. i have just seen the metaphorical ping-pong ball. go, peter. i have just seen the| metaphorical ping-pong ball as go, peter. i have just seen the i metaphorical ping-pong ball as it metaphorical ping—pong ball as it were passing from the lords to the house of commons, a man wearing tales carrying the actual legislation printed out the pieces of paper wrapped in a red ribbon, so thatis of paper wrapped in a red ribbon, so that is the amendment that has just been passed by the house of lords. it is not over yet but i think we are into the final straight now, bearing in mind some months ago there were ten different amendments that it be passed by the house of lords. that has been gradually whittled down and it is just that one amendment that is left now. the house of commons in an hour or so

pass time will presumably reject that amendment, said it back to the lords. there is some expectation that that will be eight. the red benches but ultimately back down, which means this legislation goes on the statute book ad rishi sunak�*s timetable, he says that in 10—12 weeks, although that is effectively him breaking his promise of it being by the end of the spring, that will eventually happen, he hopes, over the summer. flights taking off regularly. let's get an snp perspective. kirsten, your party is obviously strongly opposed to this plan fundamentally. what will your feelings be when this legislation actually gets onto the statute books? , , ., ., , actually gets onto the statute books? , ., , , . actually gets onto the statute books? ., , , . ., books? this is a grotesque piece of legislation- — books? this is a grotesque piece of legislation- it _ books? this is a grotesque piece of legislation. it is _ books? this is a grotesque piece of legislation. it is really _ books? this is a grotesque piece of legislation. it is really deeply - legislation. it is really deeply depressing that this is where the uk government has got to. and certainly. _ government has got to. and certainly, my colleagues and i will do all— certainly, my colleagues and i will do all we — certainly, my colleagues and i will do all we can to oppose this and to vote against it. it is such a damaging piece of legislation. it is draconian — damaging piece of legislation. it is draconian. it is a shocking way to

treat— draconian. it is a shocking way to treat human beings who are in their most _ treat human beings who are in their most vulnerable situation. i think that the _ most vulnerable situation. i think that the uk government should be deeply— that the uk government should be deeply ashamed of its conduct. unfortunately, it is not. do you accept that something drastic needs to be done to really reduce the numbers of people who are risking their lives in crossing the english channel? , . channel? they are risking their lives of people _ channel? they are risking their lives of people are _ channel? they are risking their lives of people are obviously i channel? they are risking their i lives of people are obviously very desperate and in very desperate situations. the difficulty is the uk government has taken away opportunities for people to make legal— opportunities for people to make legal representations and come here via legal— legal representations and come here via legal roots, so people are in a desperate — via legal roots, so people are in a desperate situation and they are doing _ desperate situation and they are doing desperate things. and that is very concerning. the loss of life we have _ very concerning. the loss of life we have all— very concerning. the loss of life we have all seen as something that should — have all seen as something that should concern us all. but really, what _ should concern us all. but really, what should be happening is that we should _ what should be happening is that we should be _ what should be happening is that we should be looking for a sensible and humane _ should be looking for a sensible and humane approach to deal with people who are _ humane approach to deal with people who are trying to come to these islands — who are trying to come to these islands. we should not be looking to say that _ islands. we should not be looking to say that rwanda is a safe place just because _ say that rwanda is a safe place just because the uk government wants it to he _ because the uk government wants it to be we _ because the uk government wants it to be. we should not be looking to

deport _ to be. we should not be looking to deport people there. and realistically, putting all of flat to one — realistically, putting all of flat to one side, it is not going to work anyway~ _ to one side, it is not going to work anyway so— to one side, it is not going to work anyway. so there are hundreds, milliohs— anyway. so there are hundreds, millions of— anyway. so there are hundreds, millions of pounds, hundreds of milliohs— millions of pounds, hundreds of millions of pounds, hundreds of millions of pounds, hundreds of millions of pounds it had been thrown — millions of pounds it had been thrown at _ millions of pounds it had been thrown at this scheme already to absolutely no end, much more is going _ absolutely no end, much more is going the — absolutely no end, much more is going the same way. and think about people's— going the same way. and think about people's real needs and priorities, people _ people's real needs and priorities, people in— people's real needs and priorities, people in the uk at the moment. this money— people in the uk at the moment. this money could — people in the uk at the moment. this money could be better spent on mortgage relief, on funds to help people _ mortgage relief, on funds to help people with the cost of heating their— people with the cost of heating their homes, but instead the government is throwing good money after bad _ government is throwing good money after bad on this scheme which will not work. — after bad on this scheme which will not work, which should not work, and which _ not work, which should not work, and which really _ not work, which should not work, and which really is a disgraceful way to treat other— which really is a disgraceful way to treat other human beings. one criticism levelled _ treat other human beings. one criticism levelled at _ treat other human beings. ole: criticism levelled at the scottish government is you are opposed to measures to deal with this bug bites issue. you say there should be more legal roots, and yet the allegation is that you are not prepared to take many asylum seekers in in scotland, most of them end other parts of the uk. , most of them end other parts of the uk. y ., , most of them end other parts of the uk. , .,, , , most of them end other parts of the uk. sorry to be blunt, but that is absolute nonsense. _ uk. sorry to be blunt, but that is absolute nonsense. the - uk. sorry to be blunt, but that is absolute nonsense. the scottish| absolute nonsense. the scottish government is more than its share in

terms _ government is more than its share in terms of— government is more than its share in terms of looking after those who flee here~ — terms of looking after those who flee here. people in scotland have stepped _ flee here. people in scotland have stepped up and been happy to do so, to welcome _ stepped up and been happy to do so, to welcome people to these shores. i think that _ to welcome people to these shores. i think that is — to welcome people to these shores. i think that is something that people in scotland should be commended for. and i in scotland should be commended for. and i have _ in scotland should be commended for. and i have to say, this rwanda bill, the plants— and i have to say, this rwanda bill, the plants this uk government has and the _ the plants this uk government has and the shocking way they want to treat people, that is not something that can _ treat people, that is not something that can be — treat people, that is not something that can be in scotland's name, that is not _ that can be in scotland's name, that is not where — that can be in scotland's name, that is not where we are and that is not who we _ is not where we are and that is not who we stand for. fire is not where we are and that is not who we stand for.— is not where we are and that is not who we stand for. are you prepared to sta u- who we stand for. are you prepared to stay pp all— who we stand for. are you prepared to stay up all night? _ who we stand for. are you prepared to stay up all night? i _ who we stand for. are you prepared to stay up all night? i think - who we stand for. are you prepared to stay up all night? i think that - to stay up all night? i think that is our 'ob to stay up all night? i think that is ourjob and — to stay up all night? i think that is ourjob and we _ to stay up all night? i think that is ourjob and we will— to stay up all night? i think thatj is ourjob and we will absolutely to stay up all night? i think that i is ourjob and we will absolutely do that if— is ourjob and we will absolutely do that if necessary. my colleagues and i will that if necessary. my colleagues and i will take _ that if necessary. my colleagues and i will take every possible opportunity to oppose this really, really— opportunity to oppose this really, really reprehensible piece of legislation. really reprehensible piece of legislation-— really reprehensible piece of leaislation. , , ., ., ~ legislation. kirsten oswald, thank ou ve legislation. kirsten oswald, thank you very much _ legislation. kirsten oswald, thank you very much there. _ legislation. kirsten oswald, thank you very much there. we - legislation. kirsten oswald, thank you very much there. we have - legislation. kirsten oswald, thank| you very much there. we have had legislation. kirsten oswald, thank i you very much there. we have had a range of opinions on this highly controversial plan. what matters here is not what is happening in parliament, it is whether or not this policy that has been years in the making, was first dreamt up when borisjohnson was prime minister, actually does make a difference in reducing small boat crossings. the prime minister is adamant that it

will. he has staked an awful lot of money on it, he has put political capital on it. he has spent an awful lot of time and effort to try to make this into an effective deterrent. we will wait and see whether over the summer, as he hope it well, this will actually reduce the numbers.— it well, this will actually reduce the numbers. ., ~' , the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. _ the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. let _ the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. let me _ the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. let me bring - the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. let me bring in - the numbers. peter, thank you very much for that. let me bring in our. much for that. let me bring in our panel to stop victoria coates, usso jack blanchard, politico's uk editor at large. good to have you with us. jack, let me start with you. do you think it will go through tonight? i think it will go through tonight? i mean, that is the expectation. but as you know, the british parliamentary system has its quirks and there is nothing more quirky than the house of lords. it is a very hard place to predict. it is hard to convince these unelected peers to do what you want when the government, it is hard to whip them and corral them down the voting

chamber. but there is this tradition in britain that in the end to the house of lords does give way to the will of the house of the comments. it accepts it as an unelected chamber compared to the elected house of commons, so, yes, i do think at some point tradition dictates that this will happen. but whether that is ten o'clock, ii whether that is ten o'clock, 11 o'clock, three o'clock in the morning, we will have to wait and see. �* morning, we will have to wait and see. . ., morning, we will have to wait and see. �* ., ., morning, we will have to wait and see. . ., ., , see. and one of those quirks, is it riaht see. and one of those quirks, is it ri . ht that see. and one of those quirks, is it right that tuesday _ see. and one of those quirks, is it right that tuesday becomes - see. and one of those quirks, is it l right that tuesday becomes monday until the house is adjourned, based on working on a different calendar to the rest of us? it is on working on a different calendar to the rest of us?— to the rest of us? it is truly through — to the rest of us? it is truly through the _ to the rest of us? it is truly through the looking - to the rest of us? it is truly through the looking glass, | to the rest of us? it is truly i through the looking glass, the to the rest of us? it is truly - through the looking glass, the day continues until the day's work is done, which means it will continue to be monday until it is finished, evenif to be monday until it is finished, even if it is six o'clock on the morning on tuesday. if you are in parliament, it is monday until it is over. . ., ., ., parliament, it is monday until it is over. ., ., ., over. victoria, our political editor chris mason _ over. victoria, our political editor chris mason said _ over. victoria, our political editor chris mason said something - chris mason said something interesting in the last hour. he said the government is confident

that other countries like the uk will look at a similar policy as the uk as it tries to deal with illegal migration. is this bill and the kind of third country option that the uk government wants something that the us government will look at? it is a very interesting — us government will look at? it is a very interesting question, - us government will look at? it is a very interesting question, and - us government will look at? it is a very interesting question, and good to be _ very interesting question, and good to be with _ very interesting question, and good to be with you and good to see you, too, jack~ _ to be with you and good to see you, too, jack. obviously we are not strangers — too, jack. obviously we are not strangers either to legislative quirks — strangers either to legislative quirks or— strangers either to legislative quirks or to the problem of immigration. ours is a legal immigration. ours is a legal immigration across our southern border — immigration across our southern border we _ immigration across our southern border. we have had periods of much higher— border. we have had periods of much higher deportations than we have had under— higher deportations than we have had under the _ higher deportations than we have had under the biden administration, which _ under the biden administration, which has — under the biden administration, which has really basically opened our border for unfettered migration into the _ our border for unfettered migration into the united states, and we are starting _ into the united states, and we are starting to— into the united states, and we are starting to see some real problems with that _ starting to see some real problems with that i— starting to see some real problems with that. i think it is a shared problem _ with that. i think it is a shared problem i_ with that. i think it is a shared problem. i do think the nature of our problems are somewhat different. we would _ our problems are somewhat different. we would probably have a different

fix. , , , ., ,., fix. just in terms of the border, the southern _ fix. just in terms of the border, the southern border, _ fix. just in terms of the border, the southern border, there - fix. just in terms of the border, | the southern border, there does fix. just in terms of the border, - the southern border, there does need to be a fix, and of course when we watch the bills going through the house on saturday, the things that the republicans wanted were not there. so how do they get a fix now that they have rejected the plan that they have rejected the plan that had come before them just a few months ago? that had come before them 'ust a few months ago?— months ago? that's the issue here, the full republican _ months ago? that's the issue here, the full republican caucus - months ago? that's the issue here, the full republican caucus passed i the full republican caucus passed legislation we called hrt which sits through— legislation we called hrt which sits through the senate to this day. it is not _ through the senate to this day. it is not actually a crazily conservative proposal. they said all the members of the republican congress, our centre folks as well. and that _ congress, our centre folks as well. and that is — congress, our centre folks as well. and that is i — congress, our centre folks as well. and that is i thinkjust common sense _ and that is i thinkjust common sense legislation. and i'm not sure why the _ sense legislation. and i'm not sure why the speaker chose not to just re-up _ why the speaker chose not to just re-up hr— why the speaker chose not to just re—up hr two, but what is being proposed — re—up hr two, but what is being proposed now is not going to fix our problem _ proposed now is not going to fix our problem in — proposed now is not going to fix our problem in any shape or form. donald trum- is problem in any shape or form. donald trump is rrot — problem in any shape or form. donald trump is not fixed _ problem in any shape or form. donald trump is not fixed on _ problem in any shape or form. donald

trump is not fixed on it _ problem in any shape or form. donald trump is not fixed on it today - trump is not fixed on it today because he has been in a court room. this was a historic day in manhattan. mrtrump this was a historic day in manhattan. mr trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of falsifying business records, where hush money payments were recorded as legal expenses to cover up his affairs just weeks before the election. the prosecution said the former president has orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the election. mrtrump criminal scheme to corrupt the election. mr trump said it was a book—keeping issue, a very minor thing which thejustice department had cooked up to keep him off the campaign trail. what is going on right here should never be happening. it is a very sad day in america. thank you very much. and it is shaping up to be a very busy week. what he has been a criminal court for the hush money court today, his lawyers have also beenin court today, his lawyers have also been in civil court for a hearing on whether or not that 175 million dollars bond he put up so he could appeal against a huge fine for fraud is acceptable. on wednesday, his

team will be sifting through the grand jury testimony office about discovery of the classified documents case. and on thursday, the supreme court will hear arguments about his claims that he has presidential immunity from any federal prosecutions that a ruling could be several months away. let's bring in david scott lansky, he is a director at stamford law school. what did you make of opening statements? it what did you make of opening statements?— what did you make of opening statements? , , ,, ., . ., statements? it seems like a criminal trial. we statements? it seems like a criminal trial- we have _ statements? it seems like a criminal trial. we have been _ statements? it seems like a criminal trial. we have been talking - statements? it seems like a criminal trial. we have been talking for - statements? it seems like a criminal trial. we have been talking for a - trial. we have been talking for a long time about whether this can really happen, whether a former president can be put on trial, whether the court will be able to contain donald trump. so far, the answer to all of that is yes. we had answer to all of that is yes. we had a jury sworn last week, we had opening statements today and the prosecution called their first witness. , , , ., ,

witness. the first witness was david packer, witness. the first witness was david packer. who — witness. the first witness was david packer. who of _ witness. the first witness was david packer, who of course _ witness. the first witness was david packer, who of course has - witness. the first witness was david packer, who of course has run - witness. the first witness was david packer, who of course has run the l packer, who of course has run the company that owns the national enquirer. he was very much involved in the catch and kill programme to buy up stories that were surrounding donald trump in the hope that they could not run them and kill them. is he an important witness to this case? ., , he an important witness to this case? ., _, he an important witness to this case?., ,, case? partly because he sets the scene. case? partly because he sets the scene- they _ case? partly because he sets the scene. they want _ case? partly because he sets the scene. they want their _ case? partly because he sets the scene. they want theirjury - case? partly because he sets the scene. they want theirjury to . scene. they want their jury to understand that the falsified business records here were part of a orchestrated scheme to defraud the electorate and to elect donald trump by dishonest means. and their theory is that the payments to stormy daniels were an offshoot of this larger effort to use money to squelch stories that would be damaging to donald trump as a political candidate. just damaging to donald trump as a political candidate.— political candidate. just on the case tomorrow. _ political candidate. just on the case tomorrow. it _ political candidate. just on the case tomorrow. it all- political candidate. just on the case tomorrow. it all pauses l political candidate. just on the - case tomorrow. it all pauses again as they get into the gag order, the

judge is holding a hearing to decide whether donald trump should be sanctioned for violating that order. what is the case that the prosecution is making? what is the case that the nrosecution is makint ? , ,, ., prosecution is making? they say that he has been — prosecution is making? they say that he has been ordered _ prosecution is making? they say that he has been ordered not _ prosecution is making? they say that he has been ordered not to _ prosecution is making? they say that he has been ordered not to attack . he has been ordered not to attack witnesses, not to attack personnel, and that he keeps doing it. this is going to be a hard issue for the judge, obviously, because in the one hand thejudge wants judge, obviously, because in the one hand the judge wants to insist on the propriety of the court processes. he needs to make it clear that donald trump has to obey the rules like any other defendant. on the other hand, you cannot close your eyes to the fact that there is an ongoing presidential campaign and thejudge doesn't want an ongoing presidential campaign and the judge doesn't want to impinge on donald trump's free speech rights or his ability to act as a candidate to the extent that that is consistent with honouring the rules of the court and the trial.—

with honouring the rules of the court and the trial. david, thank ou ve court and the trial. david, thank you very much _ court and the trial. david, thank you very much for _ court and the trial. david, thank you very much for that. - court and the trial. david, thank you very much for that. grateful court and the trial. david, thank . you very much for that. grateful for your time this evening. victoria, just looking at what an impact this has on the election. if you look at the latest nbc polling, it has shifted a little bit injoe biden's direction since january. so he is nowjust direction since january. so he is now just ahead direction since january. so he is nowjust ahead of donald trump. do you think the cases are starting to have an effect? because sarah smith, our us editor, does say he does look a little jaded when he appears on camera. ~ , . ., , ., camera. well, it is certainly all very exhausting _ camera. well, it is certainly all very exhausting and _ camera. well, it is certainly all very exhausting and i - camera. well, it is certainly all very exhausting and i think- camera. well, it is certainly all very exhausting and i think a i camera. well, it is certainly all. very exhausting and i think a lot camera. well, it is certainly all- very exhausting and i think a lot of the purposes of these various lawsuits — the purposes of these various lawsuits is to tie him up, to drain his energy— lawsuits is to tie him up, to drain his energy and his attention from the campaign trail. i am not a lawyer— the campaign trail. i am not a lawyer by— the campaign trail. i am not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination but to my understanding the statute of limitations on this has expired. and even if it hadn't, there _ has expired. and even if it hadn't, there is— has expired. and even if it hadn't, there is absolutely no evidence that there is absolutely no evidence that the stormy daniels story would have had a _ the stormy daniels story would have had a measurable impact on the 2016

campaign _ had a measurable impact on the 2016 campaign. there are certainly plenty of stories— campaign. there are certainly plenty of stories about the former president's private lives that have been _ president's private lives that have been splashed across the tabloids for decades now and that did not impact _ for decades now and that did not impact his— for decades now and that did not impact his ability to become president or become candidate again this year _ president or become candidate again this year. the whole case on the server— this year. the whole case on the server seems experience, and i think at the _ server seems experience, and i think at the same — server seems experience, and i think at the same time as maybe he is getting _ at the same time as maybe he is getting somewhat fatigued by this, the american people are starting to pay some _ the american people are starting to pay some more attention to this and ask what— pay some more attention to this and ask what the heck is going on with our legal— ask what the heck is going on with our legal system. that ask what the heck is going on with our legal system.— ask what the heck is going on with our legal system. that is the point, jack, our legal system. that is the point, jack. primary _ our legal system. that is the point, jack, primary voters _ our legal system. that is the point, jack, primary voters and _ our legal system. that is the point, jack, primary voters and general. jack, primary voters and general motors are very different. they start to pay attention when they are reminded of what happened in the truck presidency and their questioning whether they want to go back to that? i questioning whether they want to go back to that?— back to that? i think there has been lots of evidence _ back to that? i think there has been lots of evidence that _ back to that? i think there has been lots of evidence that the _ back to that? i think there has been lots of evidence that the various - lots of evidence that the various legal cases against donald trump have helps to build support for him amongst his base, but how the general american public react to seeing him in court, may be in multiple different cases ahead of november, going into november,

remains to be seen. it is hard to see that as being a positive for a candidate. i'm not a total expert in america, certainly in the uk we have never seen anything like that. i think at the end of your political career, immediately in the uk, if you were involved in anything like these kinds of criminal cases. obviously america is a different kettle of fish. nevertheless, my expectation will always be that seeing one of the candidates in the dockis seeing one of the candidates in the dock is not going to do them any good. dock is not going to do them any tood. ., ., ~ dock is not going to do them any tood. ., ., . ., . good. no, indeed not. we will watch events tomorrow _ good. no, indeed not. we will watch events tomorrow and _ good. no, indeed not. we will watch events tomorrow and bring - good. no, indeed not. we will watch events tomorrow and bring you - good. no, indeed not. we will watchj events tomorrow and bring you news on that on the gag order and the proceedings that will follow. let's quickly go back to the lobby because we are keeping an eye on what is happening on the house of commons. we have heard quite a lot this evening from government spokesman. we need an alternate view. peter, you have got someone with you? the you have got someone with you? ii9: parliamentary you have got someone with you? ti9 parliamentary ping—pong continues. it is about to start again in the house of commons, committee debate. let's get a plus net cross party but also a labour perspective from the

chair of the home affairs select committee. what did you make of what you heard from the prime minister this morning, the news conference he gave on this flagship reminder scheme for his government? brute scheme for his government? we started to get a bit more information about what the plan is. obviously. — information about what the plan is. obviously, it is 10—12 weeks ahead before _ obviously, it is 10—12 weeks ahead before any— obviously, it is 10—12 weeks ahead before any flexible take off. the home _ before any flexible take off. the home affairs select committee as i was been _ home affairs select committee as i was been very concerned about the practicalities of this scheme and whether— practicalities of this scheme and whether it will actually deliver the numbers — whether it will actually deliver the numbers that the government seem to think it _ numbers that the government seem to think it will, _ numbers that the government seem to think it will, and also whether it will actually have that deterrent value _ will actually have that deterrent value that the government claim. we know the _ value that the government claim. we know the permanent secretary of the home _ know the permanent secretary of the home office would not sign this policy— home office would not sign this policy off, he had to get a ministerial direction because he wasn't — ministerial direction because he wasn't satisfied that it was value for money, — wasn't satisfied that it was value for money, that it would deliver on what _ for money, that it would deliver on what the _ for money, that it would deliver on what the government think it will. so that— what the government think it will. so that is— what the government think it will. so that is still to be decided and we need — so that is still to be decided and we need to see the evidence of whether— we need to see the evidence of whether the scheme works. you have them in front — whether the scheme works. you have them in front of— whether the scheme works. you have them in front of your _ whether the scheme works. you have them in front of your committee - them in front of your committee fairly regularly. the next time you see them, what would you be wanting to get out of them? we see them, what would you be wanting to get out of them?— to get out of them? we want to get more information _

to get out of them? we want to get more information about _ to get out of them? we want to get more information about the - to get out of them? we want to get i more information about the numbers, how many— more information about the numbers, how many will actually be going to rwanda _ how many will actually be going to rwanda. some figures published today show there are 73,000 in the backlog who cannot _ show there are 73,000 in the backlog who cannot claim asylum, who could potentially _ who cannot claim asylum, who could potentially go to rwanda. we have also heard that rwanda are only likely— also heard that rwanda are only likely to — also heard that rwanda are only likely to take a few hundred in the first instance. so there is a bit of a mismatch— first instance. so there is a bit of a mismatch between the numbers. we want to— a mismatch between the numbers. we want to hear— a mismatch between the numbers. we want to hear more about that, the practicalities of the planes because there _ practicalities of the planes because there has— practicalities of the planes because there has been concerns about whether— there has been concerns about whether there are actually airlines that will— whether there are actually airlines that will fly people to rwanda. so these _ that will fly people to rwanda. so these are — that will fly people to rwanda. so these are all questions that we want to put— these are all questions that we want to put to _ these are all questions that we want to put to ministers when they get in front of— to put to ministers when they get in front of us— to put to ministers when they get in front of us again. also, what is actually— front of us again. also, what is actually happening on the ground in rwanda? _ actually happening on the ground in rwanda? whether the processes are in place, _ rwanda? whether the processes are in place, whether the appeal system is in place _ place, whether the appeal system is in place and working properly, whether— in place and working properly, whether the judges are there, the lawyers, — whether the judges are there, the lawyers, all of that we need to see if it is— lawyers, all of that we need to see if it is going — lawyers, all of that we need to see if it is going to work.— if it is going to work. quite a bit of movement — if it is going to work. quite a bit of movement tonight, - if it is going to work. quite a bit of movement tonight, the - if it is going to work. quite a bit - of movement tonight, the government has come up with a bit of a concession on the idea that afghans who have served in our british armed forces will not be deported to rwanda, those that are already in

the country anyway. your labour colleagues in the lords have accepted that. do you welcome that bit of a concession from ministers? absolutely, and i don't understand why the _ absolutely, and i don't understand why the government did not accept that before. we have gone through various— that before. we have gone through various rounds of ping—pong, i am -lad various rounds of ping—pong, i am glad they— various rounds of ping—pong, i am glad they have finally accepted that. _ glad they have finally accepted that, and in the lords the labour peer— that, and in the lords the labour peer who — that, and in the lords the labour peer who put that forward, lord browne. — peer who put that forward, lord browne, has accepted it. but obviously— browne, has accepted it. but obviously there is still one other amendment that we want to see made to the _ amendment that we want to see made to the bill. _ amendment that we want to see made to the bill, and that is about making _ to the bill, and that is about making sure that the monitoring committee that is looking to see that all— committee that is looking to see that all of— committee that is looking to see that all of the provisions that are in the _ that all of the provisions that are in the right by the treaty are in place. — in the right by the treaty are in place. as— in the right by the treaty are in place. as i_ in the right by the treaty are in place, as i have said, the lawyers are trained. — place, as i have said, the lawyers are trained, there is an appeal system. — are trained, there is an appeal system, proper processes, we want to make _ system, proper processes, we want to make sure — system, proper processes, we want to make sure that that is in place so that the _ make sure that that is in place so that the secretary of state can come to the _ that the secretary of state can come to the house and reassure us that everything — to the house and reassure us that everything is in place for when people — everything is in place for when people go to rwanda.- everything is in place for when people go to rwanda. thank you very much. and that _ people go to rwanda. thank you very much. and that is _ people go to rwanda. thank you very much. and that is the _ people go to rwanda. thank you very much. and that is the one _ people go to rwanda. thank you very. much. and that is the one amendment thatis much. and that is the one amendment that is remaining attached to this bill. it started off with ten m admits that the lords have proposed, it has been gradually whittled down,

so i think we are approaching the endgame with this legislation. then the real question is start about whether flights can take off, what the numbers will be and whether it is actually effective in putting people off from crossing the english channel in small boats. keep people off from crossing the english channel in small boats.— channel in small boats. keep that midnitht channel in small boats. keep that midnight oil _ channel in small boats. keep that midnight oil close, _ channel in small boats. keep that midnight oil close, peter. - channel in small boats. keep that midnight oil close, peter. you - channel in small boats. keep thatl midnight oil close, peter. you may yet need it. we are going to turn to ukraine. he not only shifted position but defied a majority in his party to do is it, which might ultimately cost him hisjob. the speaker said he believed he was making the right decision in the best interests of the country. i have done here what i believe to be the right thing,

and that is to allow the house to work its will. and as i've said, you do the right thing and you let the chips fall where they may. i will continue to do that. he has earned the plaudits from left and right, including this extraordinary intervention yesterday by the texas republican tony gonzalez on the cnn show state of the union. the gonzalez on the cnn show state of the union. :, , , ., :, ., the union. the house is a rough and rowdy place. — the union. the house is a rough and rowdy place. but — the union. the house is a rough and rowdy place, but mike _ the union. the house is a rough and rowdy place, but mike johnson - the union. the house is a rough and rowdy place, but mike johnson is . rowdy place, but mike johnson is going _ rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to — rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be — rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be just— rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be just fine. _ rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be just fine. i— rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be just fine. i served - rowdy place, but mike johnson is going to be just fine. i served 20j going to be just fine. i served 20 years— going to be just fine. i served 20 years in— going to be just fine. i served 20 years in the _ going to be just fine. i served 20 years in the military, _ going to be just fine. i served 20 years in the military, it- going to be just fine. i served 20 years in the military, it is- going to be just fine. i served 20 years in the military, it is my. years in the military, it is my absolute _ years in the military, it is my absolute honour— years in the military, it is my absolute honour to— years in the military, it is my absolute honour to be - years in the military, it is my absolute honour to be in- years in the military, it is my- absolute honour to be in congress, but i _ absolute honour to be in congress, but i serve — absolute honour to be in congress, but i serve with _ absolute honour to be in congress, but i serve with some _ absolute honour to be in congress, but i serve with some real- absolute honour to be in congress, i but i serve with some real scumbags. it but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't _ but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't surprise _ but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't surprise me _ but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't surprise me that - but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't surprise me that some - but i serve with some real scumbags. it wouldn't surprise me that some ofl it wouldn't surprise me that some of these _ it wouldn't surprise me that some of these folks— it wouldn't surprise me that some of these folks voted _ it wouldn't surprise me that some of these folks voted against _ it wouldn't surprise me that some of these folks voted against aid - it wouldn't surprise me that some of these folks voted against aid to - these folks voted against aid to israel. — these folks voted against aid to israel. but _ these folks voted against aid to israel. but i _ these folks voted against aid to israel, but i was _ these folks voted against aid to israel, but i was encouraged i these folks voted against aid to israel, but i was encouraged to| these folks voted against aid to - israel, but i was encouraged to sea by a nearly— israel, but i was encouraged to sea by a nearly 10-1 _ israel, but i was encouraged to sea by a nearly 10—1 mark _ israel, but i was encouraged to sea by a nearly 10—1 mark that - by a nearly 10—1 mark that republican— by a nearly 10—1 mark that republican supported - by a nearly 10—1 mark that republican supported our| by a nearly 10—1 mark that - republican supported our allies on the battlefield. — republican supported our allies on the battlefield. the— republican supported our allies on the battlefield.— republican supported our allies on the battlefield. the passage of that bill ma be the battlefield. the passage of that bill may be a _ the battlefield. the passage of that bill may be a turning _ the battlefield. the passage of that bill may be a turning point - the battlefield. the passage of that bill may be a turning point in - the battlefield. the passage of that bill may be a turning point in the i bill may be a turning point in the war with russia. the financial times writes that us intelligence sees ukraine as the front line in a much larger conflict. "the acting assumption is that in the long run xijinping isjust as determined as vladimir putin to overturn the current world order." the japanese, like the americans, think that what

happens in ukraine will have a vital bearing on what happens in the indo—pacific. let's speak now to former un assistant secretary for state for eurasian affairs. it is an interesting perspective, that the ft gives us. i wonder if that is what has persuaded speakerjohnson that so much more is at stake?— so much more is at stake? speaker johnson has — so much more is at stake? speaker johnson has said _ so much more is at stake? speaker johnson has said that _ so much more is at stake? speaker johnson has said that the _ so much more is at stake? speaker johnson has said that the intel - johnson has said that the intel briefings — johnson has said that the intel briefings he has received have made clear to _ briefings he has received have made clear to him — briefings he has received have made clear to him how dire the situation in ukraine — clear to him how dire the situation in ukraine is— clear to him how dire the situation in ukraine is and also the linkages across— in ukraine is and also the linkages across these different regions. when we think— across these different regions. when we think about the fact that russia is receiving weapons from north korea _ is receiving weapons from north korea and — is receiving weapons from north korea and iran, it could not be more clear— korea and iran, it could not be more clear that _ korea and iran, it could not be more clear that it — korea and iran, it could not be more clear that it is— korea and iran, it could not be more clear that it is very hard to disaggregate these different

regions. disaggregate these different retions. ., ., ., regions. that intervention, i have never heard _ regions. that intervention, i have never heard a _ regions. that intervention, i have never heard a republican - regions. that intervention, i have never heard a republican speak. regions. that intervention, i have - never heard a republican speak about that about the hard right in his party before. do you think in terms of broaderforeign party before. do you think in terms of broader foreign policy this party before. do you think in terms of broaderforeign policy this is party before. do you think in terms of broader foreign policy this is a turning point for the party? it is ve hard turning point for the party? it is very hard to _ turning point for the party? it is very hard to say _ turning point for the party? it is very hard to say that. as you pointed _ very hard to say that. as you pointed out, leave out that we saw on the _ pointed out, leave out that we saw on the ukraine bill in the house of representatives on saturday was a vote of— representatives on saturday was a vote of 311 — representatives on saturday was a vote of 311 members in favour, 112 opposed — vote of 311 members in favour, 112 opposed. the 112 for all republicans and that— opposed. the 112 for all republicans and that represented a slight majority of the 214 republicans in the house. so we see an extremely divided _ the house. so we see an extremely divided republican party. and we did see overwhelmingly bipartisan support— see overwhelmingly bipartisan support for ukraine, for israel or taiwan. — support for ukraine, for israel or taiwan. but— support for ukraine, for israel or taiwan, but i think it is anyone's about— taiwan, but i think it is anyone's about how— taiwan, but i think it is anyone's about how this plays out in an election— about how this plays out in an election year where politics are likely— election year where politics are likely to — election year where politics are likely to intrude ever more on

policy — likely to intrude ever more on loli _ . :, ., likely to intrude ever more on noli . ., , , likely to intrude ever more on policy. victoria coates, is a former national security _ policy. victoria coates, is a former national security adviser, - policy. victoria coates, is a former national security adviser, do - policy. victoria coates, is a former national security adviser, do you | national security adviser, do you see it in the same way as the ft? where ukraine goes, the rest of these conflicts in the indo—pacific, in israel, then gaza? sorry, victoria coates. mt; in israel, then gaza? sorry, victoria coates. my apologies, karen. ithink— victoria coates. my apologies, karen. i think that _ victoria coates. my apologies, karen. i think that this - victoria coates. my apologies, karen. i think that this is - karen. i think that this is absolutely correct, that we are less and less _ absolutely correct, that we are less and less able to disaggregate between the problem sets of iran and russia _ between the problem sets of iran and russia and _ between the problem sets of iran and russia and china and north korea, and you _ russia and china and north korea, and you have china increasingly playing — and you have china increasingly playing the leading role and the other— playing the leading role and the other three basically in subordinate roles _ other three basically in subordinate roles i_ other three basically in subordinate roles. i think it is in china pass best— roles. i think it is in china pass best interest to have the united states _ best interest to have the united states caught up in ukraine, spending a lot of money and munitions in ukraine which would limit _ munitions in ukraine which would limit what — munitions in ukraine which would limit what we could do foreseeably in an action against taiwan, and that is— in an action against taiwan, and that is where the us position is unique — that is where the us position is unique and i think not well understood by many of our european partners _ understood by many of our european partners. we are going to have

equities— partners. we are going to have equities against all of these countries. we are the one country that is— countries. we are the one country that is going to have to face all of them _ that is going to have to face all of them so— that is going to have to face all of them so i— that is going to have to face all of them. so i think what we have been asking _ them. so i think what we have been asking for— them. so i think what we have been asking for from heritage is a clear plan from — asking for from heritage is a clear plan from european friends to deal with the _ plan from european friends to deal with the european frontier given that we — with the european frontier given that we are also engaged in the middle — that we are also engaged in the middle east, which they are not, and we could _ middle east, which they are not, and we could potentially be engaged in asian _ we could potentially be engaged in asia, which they are unlikely to be as well _ asia, which they are unlikely to be as well. , . : ~ asia, which they are unlikely to be as well. , ., . ,, ., , , asia, which they are unlikely to be as well. . ., . ,, ., , , ., as well. jack, i really squeezed for time. do as well. jack, i really squeezed for time- do you _ as well. jack, i really squeezed for time. do you think— as well. jack, i really squeezed for time. do you think the _ as well. jack, i really squeezed for time. do you think the europeans | as well. jack, i really squeezed for i time. do you think the europeans see it in that terms? do they see the threat in the indo—pacific and how it is linked to ukraine? threat in the indo-pacific and how it is linked to ukraine?— it is linked to ukraine? certainly the uk does- — it is linked to ukraine? certainly the uk does. the _ it is linked to ukraine? certainly the uk does. the uk _ it is linked to ukraine? certainly the uk does. the uk has - it is linked to ukraine? certainly. the uk does. the uk has recently signed the orches defence pact which is designed as a long—term protection in the indo—pacific. the uk is aligned to that and is tilting its foreign policy in that

direction —— aukus. i would push back to say that they are not involved, but of course america has to be taking a lead in this, their military might is far beyond anything anyone in europe... kearyn, sor to anything anyone in europe... kearyn, sorry to squeeze _ anything anyone in europe... kearyn, sorry to squeeze you _ anything anyone in europe... kearyn, sorry to squeeze you tonight - anything anyone in europe... kearyn, sorry to squeeze you tonight but - sorry to squeeze you tonight but thank you for your contributions. hello there. a bit of a disappointing day again for this stage in april — rather grey, cloudy, damp, certainly across england and wales, where it did feel really chilly once again. and that chilly feel will continue for the rest of the week, with the best of the sunshine towards western areas — always more cloud towards the north and east. you can see the arctic air pretty much lingering across the uk over the next few days, pretty much until we reach the weekend, in fact, where things may turn a bit milder in the south. but we've had thick cloud across england and wales, courtesy of these weather fronts, which have brought outbreaks of light and patchy rain.

and that patchy rain will continue across eastern england, spreading southwards into the midlands, southern southeast england through the night. further north and west, we'll have clearer skies here — so quite a chilly night to come, a touch of frost here and there. further south and east less cold because we'll have the cloud cover and outbreaks of rain. so for tuesday, we hold onto our high pressure system sitting out to the west of us — that's what's bringing us these northerly winds and that chilly air. we have that weather front still lingering across the south and east of england. so, rather cloudy start, further patches of rain here through the morning. it doesn't really improve much into the afternoon here, so rather cool and grey, chilly along north sea coast with the odd shower, but some good spells of sunshine further west. where we have plenty of sunshine and shelter, like glasgow, 16—17 celsius — single digits though along the north sea coast, and generally for most, i think highs of around 10—12 celsius. factor in the breeze, it'll feel chillier than that. as we head into tuesday night, early wednesday with i think a greater amount of clearer skies, then it'll be a colder night, i think for most, temperatures from freezing to around four celsius. so wednesday starts chilly, there will be sunshine from the word go — out west, more cloud,

northern and eastern areas, where there'll be more of an onshore breeze for north sea coast, again, feeling quite raw there. but i think it generally a dry day for wednesday, just the chance of the odd shower close towards the east, the north sea coast there, where temperatures will be in single digits. further west again, the low teens. now, as we move through towards the end of the week, we could see this area of low pressure skirting past southern and western areas — that could start to throw up a few more showers in our direction. this could change, the details of this could change, but i think it's looking a bit more unsettled as we head into the weekend, maybe turning a bit milder across the south.