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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. europe survived the first trump presidency, but this time around things will be a lot harder. we will look at what his comeback means for the continent. what does america first mean? by now it is apparent to us all that donald trump, by instinct, is an isolationist, he abhors the international rules—based order, is pretty indifferent to nato, abhors the un, largely bypassed the eu preferring to go direct to national capitals. the word from the campaign is that plans are already being drawn up
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to slash federal government in washington, his opponents fear there will be a vendetta tour against enemies within washington and beyond. which on previous form, would suggest europe will need to be on its guard. the headline in politico this morning, suggest it could be even worse than that. their political team has been sounding out those planning for a trump second term. their conclusion is that it could pose an existential threat to european unity on a whole range of issues, trade and tarrifs, energy, climate change and and security. barbara moens is politico's chief eu correspondent she was a co—author on this report. welcome to the program. paint a picture for me. what threads could donald trump pole in his own interests in a second term that might unravel the unity and brussels? i might unravel the unity and brussels?—
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brussels? i think the most existential _ brussels? i think the most existential one _ brussels? i think the most existential one is - brussels? i think the most existential one is ukraine. | brussels? i think the most i existential one is ukraine. a brussels? i think the most - existential one is ukraine. a trump presidency would mean for support toward ukraine if that us support would completely fall away that would completely fall away that would have major implications, security implications for ukraine itself but also towards a potential russian invasion towards baltic countries in the east of europe. so the eu will have to step up to make sure that it keeps its deterrent effect towards vladimir putin. it's unclear whether at this point it's actually able to do that. on top of that, on top of the existential security question, what we've seen last time but the trump presidency was that trump was very good in trying to divide and conquer between different eu countries. by using trade tariffs on german cars, on french champagne but also there is now a lot of leverage on energy. the eu is using a lot of lng from the
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us, if trump would pulled out a way that could also have a risk of effect towards the eu. we were re ”ortin effect towards the eu. we were reporting that _ effect towards the eu. we were reporting that the _ effect towards the eu. we were reporting that the eu _ effect towards the eu. we were reporting that the eu is - effect towards the eu. we were reporting that the eu is heavily| reporting that the eu is heavily dependent on exports to the united states. if donald trump followed through on his threat to impose 10% on those goods that are coming in, what would that mean for the european union? b5 what would that mean for the european union?— what would that mean for the european union? as we saw it last time the us _ european union? as we saw it last time the us and _ european union? as we saw it last time the us and the _ european union? as we saw it last time the us and the eu _ european union? as we saw it last time the us and the eu are - european union? as we saw it last time the us and the eu are so - time the us and the eu are so interlinked economically in their bilateral experts but also what it means for a global international trade system. if we would have another transatlantic trade war and even worse than the last trump presidency that would have major economic impact on the eu and also political consequences. the we use values and multiple lateral trading system, this international rules —based order. if that falls away from the us side, especially in the
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context we have now with a concrete enemy with russia at the border, a china that is becoming more economically aggressive, that would pose major challenges towards the eu security economically and politically. at this point with the eu officials and diplomats that we talk to are afraid of in first instance and also preparing for. last on the trump presidency came as a huge surprise. this time around everyone is already having it in the back of their minds. what we're talking on economics security strategy, industrial strategy, and all those fields you feel that there is certain mention going for things that used to be impossible. not because of the potential trump presidency looming the conversation is building up.
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presidency looming the conversation is building um— presidency looming the conversation is building un— presidency looming the conversation is building lip-— is building up. philip, it's a good read, is building up. philip, it's a good read. quite _ is building up. philip, it's a good read. quite an — is building up. philip, it's a good read, quite an extensive - is building up. philip, it's a good read, quite an extensive report. is building up. philip, it's a good . read, quite an extensive report that clearly pulls from different sources. they are gearing up. it seems to echo with a security correspondent for the new york times the same this week, he returned from brussels and picked up similar messages. i guess we've already seen some reaction in the way that the ukraine bill stalled. suddenly it jump—started everybody into action. how far do you think they would have to go to insulate themselves on trade, which is your expertise? if trade, which is your expertise? if there is an incoming trump administration and started trade war will impoverish everything singing everybody. that'sjust a will impoverish everything singing everybody. that's just a fact of it for the _ everybody. that's just a fact of it for the impacts across the globe it's shades of the 19305 during for the impacts across the globe it'5 shades of the 19305 during the great _ it'5 shades of the 19305 during the great depression. thi5 it'5 shades of the 19305 during the great depression. this would be a serious _ great depression. this would be a serious threat to the global
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economic context. in those circumstances my guess is, if they circum5tance5 my guess is, if they trade _ circum5tance5 my guess is, if they trade challenge i got the eu would han- trade challenge i got the eu would hang together in response to that. the us— hang together in response to that. the us has— hang together in response to that. the us has always targeted it5 retaliatory tariff5 the us has always targeted it5 retaliatory tariffs on particular products. it needs to get the message to french chee5e5 are german car5 me55age to french chee5e5 are german cars or— message to french chee5e5 are german cars or be _ message to french chee5e5 are german cars or be what it may. that wouldn't _ cars or be what it may. that wouldn't be new. but the scale of the threat — wouldn't be new. but the scale of the threat would be. maybe there was a bit of— the threat would be. maybe there was a bit of preparation with the brexit time where there was this huge threat _ time where there was this huge threat to— time where there was this huge threat to the cohesion and interest of the _ threat to the cohesion and interest of the ell — threat to the cohesion and interest of the eu. much to the surprise of many— of the eu. much to the surprise of many briti5h politician5 the eu manage — many briti5h politician5 the eu manage that through a very cohesive collective _ manage that through a very cohesive collective effort.— collective effort. when they hang toaether collective effort. when they hang together in _ collective effort. when they hang together in a _ collective effort. when they hang together in a crisis _ collective effort. when they hang together in a crisis and _ collective effort. when they hang together in a crisis and it - collective effort. when they hang together in a crisis and it tends i collective effort. when they hang | together in a crisis and it tends to be a crisis you see the cohesion. that's when europe does work best. with your expertise as a former
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ambassador to nato, the word is that he would push zelensky to see crime air and parts of the donbas is reported by the new york post what's less clear is what his intentions would be towards nato and actually what he would do if putin said no to a peace deal. irate what he would do if putin said no to a peace deal-— a peace deal. we won't know until then and hopefully _ a peace deal. we won't know until then and hopefully we _ a peace deal. we won't know until then and hopefully we will - a peace deal. we won't know until then and hopefully we will never l then and hopefully we will never find out, — then and hopefully we will never find out, by _ then and hopefully we will never find out, by the _ then and hopefully we will never find out, by the way. _ then and hopefully we will never find out, by the way. if - then and hopefully we will never find out, by the way. if we - then and hopefully we will never find out, by the way. if we everl then and hopefully we will never i find out, by the way. if we ever get into this _ find out, by the way. if we ever get into this position _ find out, by the way. if we ever get into this position i— find out, by the way. if we ever get into this position i do— find out, by the way. if we ever get into this position i do think - find out, by the way. if we ever get into this position i do think that - into this position i do think that putin— into this position i do think that putin will— into this position i do think that putin will actually— into this position i do think that putin will actually be _ into this position i do think that putin will actually be quite - into this position i do think that. putin will actually be quite happy to draw— putin will actually be quite happy to draw the — putin will actually be quite happy to draw the line _ putin will actually be quite happy to draw the line where _ putin will actually be quite happy to draw the line where he - putin will actually be quite happy to draw the line where he is - putin will actually be quite happy to draw the line where he is now| to draw the line where he is now because — to draw the line where he is now because it — to draw the line where he is now because it would _ to draw the line where he is now because it would just _ to draw the line where he is now because it would just be - to draw the line where he is now- because it would just be a temporary cease-fire _ because it would just be a temporary cease—fire. what _ because it would just be a temporary cease—fire. what he _ because it would just be a temporary cease—fire. what he would _ because it would just be a temporary cease—fire. what he would like - because it would just be a temporary cease—fire. what he would like to - cease—fire. what he would like to see cea5e—fire. what he would like to see is— cease—fire. what he would like to see is the — cease—fire. what he would like to see is the west _ cease—fire. what he would like to see is the west divided _ cea5e—fire. what he would like to see is the west divided in- see is the west divided in the united — 5ee is the west divided in the united states— see is the west divided in the united states to _ 5ee is the west divided in the united states to withdraw- see is the west divided in the united states to withdraw as i see is the west divided in the - united states to withdraw as their main _ united states to withdraw as their main guarantor _ united states to withdraw as their main guarantor of— united states to withdraw as their main guarantor of national - united states to withdraw as their. main guarantor of national security. donald _ main guarantor of national security. donald trump — main guarantor of national security. donald trump is _ main guarantor of national security. donald trump is perfect _ main guarantor of national security. donald trump is perfect for- main guarantor of national security. donald trump is perfect for this - donald trump is perfect for this because — donald trump is perfect for this because he _ donald trump is perfect for this because he will— donald trump is perfect for this because he will not _ donald trump is perfect for this because he will not be - donald trump is perfect for this because he will not be the - donald trump is perfect for thisj because he will not be the main guarantor— because he will not be the main guarantor of _ because he will not be the main guarantor of european - because he will not be the main guarantor of european security, j because he will not be the main. guarantor of european security, to the extent— guarantor of european security, to the extent he _ guarantor of european security, to the extent he will— guarantor of european security, to the extent he will continue - guarantor of european security, to the extent he will continue to - guarantor of european security, to the extent he will continue to be l the extent he will continue to be involved — the extent he will continue to be involved in— the extent he will continue to be involved in europe _ the extent he will continue to be involved in europe and _ the extent he will continue to be involved in europe and for- the extent he will continue to be involved in europe and for a - the extent he will continue to be| involved in europe and for a price that most— involved in europe and for a price that most countries _ involved in europe and for a price that most countries will- involved in europe and for a price that most countries will not -
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involved in europe and for a price that most countries will not be i that most countries will not be willing — that most countries will not be willing to — that most countries will not be willing to pav _ that most countries will not be willing to pav he _ that most countries will not be willing to pay. he may- that most countries will not be willing to pay. he may not - that most countries will not be - willing to pay. he may not undermine nato actively, — willing to pay. he may not undermine nato actively, he _ willing to pay. he may not undermine nato actively, he may— willing to pay. he may not undermine nato actively, he may not _ willing to pay. he may not undermine nato actively, he may not even - nato actively, he may not even withdraw — nato actively, he may not even withdraw from _ nato actively, he may not even withdraw from nato _ nato actively, he may not even withdraw from nato but - nato actively, he may not even withdraw from nato but he - nato actively, he may not even withdraw from nato but he is. nato actively, he may not even - withdraw from nato but he is going to make _ withdraw from nato but he is going to make sure — withdraw from nato but he is going to make sure that _ withdraw from nato but he is going to make sure that the _ withdraw from nato but he is going to make sure that the united - withdraw from nato but he is goingl to make sure that the united states i5 to make sure that the united states is not _ to make sure that the united states is not going — to make sure that the united states is not going to — to make sure that the united states is not going to be _ to make sure that the united states is not going to be part— to make sure that the united states is not going to be part of— to make sure that the united states is not going to be part of the - is not going to be part of the european _ is not going to be part of the european security— is not going to be part of the european security system. . is not going to be part of the i european security system. that is not going to be part of the - european security system. that in and of _ european security system. that in and of itself — european security system. that in and of itself will _ european security system. that in and of itself will be _ european security system. that in and of itself will be enough - european security system. that in and of itself will be enough for. and of itself will be enough for putin— and of itself will be enough for putin to — and of itself will be enough for putin to say, _ and of itself will be enough for putin to say, ok, _ and of itself will be enough for putin to say, ok, i— and of itself will be enough for putin to say, ok, i will- and of itself will be enough for putin to say, ok, i will draw. putin to say, ok, i will draw the line where — putin to say, ok, i will draw the line where it _ putin to say, ok, i will draw the line where it is _ putin to say, ok, i will draw the line where it is today— putin to say, ok, i will draw the line where it is today because . line where it is today because tomorrow _ line where it is today because tomorrow i _ line where it is today because tomorrow i will _ line where it is today because tomorrow i will draw - line where it is today because tomorrow i will draw it - line where it is today because - tomorrow i will draw it somewhere else _ tomorrow i will draw it somewhere else whether— tomorrow i will draw it somewhere else. whether it's _ tomorrow i will draw it somewhere else. whether it's enough - tomorrow i will draw it somewhere else. whether it's enough or- else. whether it'5 enough or ukrainians— else. whether it'5 enough or ukrainians to— else. whether it's enough or ukrainians to accept - else. whether it's enough or ukrainians to accept that - else. whether it's enough or. ukrainians to accept that reality else. whether it's enough or- ukrainians to accept that reality is ”p ukrainians to accept that reality is up in _ ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the — ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the air~ _ ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the air~ as— ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the air. as we _ ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the air. as we just— ukrainians to accept that reality is up in the air. as we just saw, - up in the air. as we just saw, without— up in the air. as we just saw, without the _ up in the air. as we just saw, without the 60 _ up in the air. as we just saw, without the 60 billion - up in the air. as we just saw, without the 60 billion of - up in the air. as we just saw, without the 60 billion of the i up in the air. as we just saw, - without the 60 billion of the united states— without the 60 billion of the united states this — without the 60 billion of the united states this war— without the 60 billion of the united states this war was _ without the 60 billion of the united states this war was moving - without the 60 billion of the united states this war was moving very- states this war was moving very quickly— states this war was moving very quickly in — states this war was moving very quickly in a _ states this war was moving very quickly in a bad _ states this war was moving very quickly in a bad direction. - states this war was moving very quickly in a bad direction. that. states this war was moving veryl quickly in a bad direction. that is the threat — quickly in a bad direction. that is the threat that _ quickly in a bad direction. that is the threat that is _ quickly in a bad direction. that is the threat that is hanging - the threat that is hanging out there — the threat that is hanging out there that— the threat that is hanging out there. that is— the threat that is hanging out there. that is only— the threat that is hanging out there. that is only been - the threat that is hanging out- there. that is only been postponed by there. that is only been postponed bv the _ there. that is only been postponed bv the aid — there. that is only been postponed b the aid. , ., , by the aid. they are in is the existential _ by the aid. they are in is the existential threat. _ by the aid. they are in is the existential threat. barbara, l existential threat. barbara, excellent report. thank you for coming on to share the detail. no court case in manhattan today. thejudge in the hush money trial, has agreed to give donald trump wednesdays off to focus on his campaign.
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we are still awaiting a ruling on the gag order. the prosecution have complained that he continues attack the witnesses and the lawyers in breach of the terms of that order. justicejuan merchan told the defence yesterday they are losing all credibility with the court. that doesn't seem to concern the former president, who berates his former advisor and key witness michael cohen. well, michael cohen is a convicted liar. and he's got no credibility whatsoever. he was a lawyer and you rely on your lawyers. but michael cohen was a convicted liar. he was a lawyer for many people, notjust me and he got in trouble because of things outside of what he did for me. one of the key questions we keep asking is how this is affecting the campaign. yesterday it was pennsylvania voting in the presidential primary. albeit the race is run. president trump clinched his party's nomination over a month ago. and yet a sizable share of republican primary voters cast a ballot for nikki haley yesterday —
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she had 147,000 votes with over 90% of the vote counted. why does that matter? well, president biden won pennsylvania byjust 80,000 votes in 2020. that ivo is a sizeable protest vote? it is if we actually know who those voters are they might have been biting voters who happen to vote in the republican primary. we don't know whether you can take those 150,000 votes and say those would have otherwise gone to a republican nominee but they're now going to a democratic nominee. the fact that the races over and there's still a sizeable minority, 16 or 17% of the total vote, that refuses to vote for donald trump is something that donald trump is something that donald trump is something that donald trump should be worried about. add to that every opinion poll showing that if he were to be convicted, including in this case, the hush money case, there are a sizeable minority of republicans who
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say we're not voting for him. but never trump _ say we're not voting for him. but never trump on _ say we're not voting for him. but never trump on his side. joe biden has problem was his coalition as we've been seeing at the top of the programme a lot of still in the balance on key swing states. how much to be really care about the rules that keep broadcasting here in the uk impartial? do we mind that polticians present shows on gb news or lbc interviewing their mates? or is the the whole thing a bit of a sham. those who support the defunding of the bbc or itv would say the mainstream media isjust as biased theyjust hide it behind a veneer of respectability. well ofcom has just published research which will guide how they police these matters as the media regulator here in the uk. and in an election year the stakes are pretty higher. this is what andrew neil — the former gb news chairman — formerly of this partish — told the house of lords yesterday. if i'd stay chairman it would never
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happen. i would sadly never allow politicians to interview other politicians to interview other politicians from the same party. i just find it incredible. i think in these areas ofcom needs to backlog. here's what dame melanie dawes, chief executive of ofcom responded to andrew neills attack. we found gb news and preach 11 times this is an organisation that prioritises taking action. we found them in breach on a number of occasions on broadcasting. what did you do as a result? we put them on notice that fines are on the table and they do need to include the record. ,., , and they do need to include the record. , , , .,, and they do need to include the record. , , , ., record. does putting people on notice change _ record. does putting people on notice change the _ record. does putting people on notice change the way - record. does putting people on notice change the way that - notice change the way that broadcasters behave or should ofcom be using its powers more robustly? it doesn't say so does it? yes, ofcom have to use their indeed worth
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a look at the point that andrew neil was making, why are serving mps presenting programmes on the tv and radio, particularly interviewing their fellow mps. this radio, particularly interviewing theirfellow mps. this really radio, particularly interviewing their fellow mps. this really does bring the whole system close to disrepute for them in an election year this really matters. so ofcom do need to take courage in their hands and get this sorted. that means notjust having stuff on the table but actually putting signs in place. table but actually putting signs in lace. , , table but actually putting signs in lace, , , ., , , table but actually putting signs in lace, , , , ., table but actually putting signs in lace, , , ., . , place. they say they have concerns about politicians _ place. they say they have concerns about politicians anchoring - about politicians anchoring programs. they question people who also have concerns but people don't want to ban it because they think we need a diverse broadcasting landscape where all views are heard. the question is, are politicians best place to offer that was then called vision views all the time
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people say too much of whether politicians setting out their views of the public will to managing the way the public hearing those views. that is a line that needs to be managed very carefully. i think part of the reason the bbc is respected around the world, no flattery here is because it doesn't manage those impartiality rules with real care and attention. i think if the regime phrase in other parts of the media landscape in the uk that does not serve our politics and our democratic infrastructure ultimately well. , , ., well. the truth is, it is through this programme, _ well. the truth is, it is through this programme, let's - well. the truth is, it is through this programme, let's be - well. the truth is, it is through i this programme, let's be honest, news and views are now routinely broadcast on news programmes for the people can get their news anywhere. they want people to pull it apart for them and explain what the news means. sometimes that strays into opinion. that's very much been the
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hallmark of us networks. for the better the worse?— hallmark of us networks. for the better the worse? well, for a cable news channels _ better the worse? well, for a cable news channels more _ better the worse? well, for a cable news channels more than - better the worse? well, for a cable news channels more than the - news channels more than the networks. no, ithink news channels more than the networks. no, i think unfortunately it's not— networks. no, i think unfortunately it's not for— networks. no, i think unfortunately it's not for the better. most of the cable _ it's not for the better. most of the cable news — it's not for the better. most of the cable news channels have come a shouting — cable news channels have come a shouting show where you are basically _ shouting show where you are basically putting different political views on the air and let them _ political views on the air and let them have _ political views on the air and let them have it out. and then slanted on one _ them have it out. and then slanted on one side — them have it out. and then slanted on one side with regard to the fox and another side on msnbc. the kind of dispassion and analysis that we used _ of dispassion and analysis that we used to— of dispassion and analysis that we used to have that new shows, including _ used to have that new shows, including analytical with opinion is rare to _ including analytical with opinion is rare to be — including analytical with opinion is rare to be found in the united states — rare to be found in the united states i_ rare to be found in the united states. i think the line of having politicians — states. i think the line of having politicians actually running their own shows, particularly sitting legislators or others is a line that even _ legislators or others is a line that even in _ legislators or others is a line that even in the — legislators or others is a line that even in the united states hasn't. | even in the united states hasn't. i was even in the united states hasn't. was trying even in the united states hasn't. i was trying to think whether on talk radio, no. they are part of the
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panel but not the anchor sitting in the chair. , ., . ., , the chair. yes, the anchor sitting in the chair _ the chair. yes, the anchor sitting in the chair may _ the chair. yes, the anchor sitting in the chair may be _ the chair. yes, the anchor sitting in the chair may be even - the chair. yes, the anchor sitting in the chair may be even more i in the chair may be even more political— in the chair may be even more political than the people they are interviewing. tucker carlson comes to mind _ interviewing. tucker carlson comes to mind it's— interviewing. tucker carlson comes to mind. it's not like it's unbiased, it'5 terribly biased. but we haven't— unbiased, it'5 terribly biased. but we haven't had people who are paid to do— we haven't had people who are paid to do one _ we haven't had people who are paid to do one job, which is to legislate to do one job, which is to legislate to be _ to do one job, which is to legislate to be part — to do one job, which is to legislate to be part of doing something else. itjust— to be part of doing something else. itjust hasn't happened in the us for that— itjust hasn't happened in the us for that and frankly i hope it doesn't _ for that and frankly i hope it doesn't i_ for that and frankly i hope it doesn't. ., , for that and frankly i hope it doesn't. , doesn't. i hope people will continue to watch are — doesn't. i hope people will continue to watch are analytical— doesn't. i hope people will continue to watch are analytical program. - doesn't. i hope people will continuej to watch are analytical program. we will take a short break. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news.
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you're watching bbc news. it is time for the panel. ivo, you're watching bbc news. it is time forthe panel. ivo, let you're watching bbc news. it is time for the panel. ivo, let me start with you. we have a little segment
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on thursday: ai decoder. we focus a lot on where ai is going, with the future will take us with what we haven't focused on but will get to is the energy that drives it for that that's where you want to focus tonight. that that's where you want to focus toni . ht. , �* , that that's where you want to focus toniaht. , �*, ., ,. ., tonight. yes, it's fascinating. we're all _ tonight. yes, it's fascinating. we're all learning _ tonight. yes, it's fascinating. we're all learning new - tonight. yes, it's fascinating. we're all learning new thingsj tonight. yes, it's fascinating. - we're all learning new things about al, it is evolving so rapidly. and ai, it is evolving so rapidly. and we're looking at the implications of ai forjobs in the economy and warfare and all kinds of things, very worthwhile. i was struck by a story that i read in the financial times about the energy consumption for al for that these massive data centres that are being built all around the world, questioning about the security of those data and and of itself. they are consuming massive amounts of energy for them by the international agencies estimate in 2026, two years from now the total amount of energy that is going to be consumed by these data centres just to run these large
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language models for al is going to be the equivalent to the energy consumption byjapan, the third largest economy in the world. it is largest economy in the world. it is 'ust largest economy in the world. it is just stunning- _ largest economy in the world. it is just stunning. that is astonishing. that's not talking about the water thatis that's not talking about the water that is consumed in these plants as they cool the processing centres, right? they cool the processing centres, riuht? �* , ., ., they cool the processing centres, riuht? h ., ., ., right? it's the water and a question of how do you _ right? it's the water and a question of how do you produce _ right? it's the water and a question of how do you produce that - right? it's the water and a question of how do you produce that energy| of how do you produce that energy when you're in the middle of an energy transition away from fossil fuels to renewables? perhaps nuclear if it happens quickly enough. maybe that's the salvation, technology can be part of the solution. the speed with which ai is being developed in the amount of money the high—tech companies are putting into it, trillions of dollars they are talking about. it's happening at such a speed that i don't think we're really able to capture and imagine what is happening because it's happening so incredibly fast. we've got one of the godfathers of
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ai we've got one of the godfathers of al on the programme, he's done some pioneering work on al and maybe we put the question to him. it's a good run. thank you for that, ivo. dangled in front the youth mobility scheme and then rishi sunak said no, we don't want it. thy, scheme and then rishi sunak said no, we don't want it.— we don't want it. a surprise coming out of the eu _ we don't want it. a surprise coming out of the eu edited. _ we don't want it. a surprise coming out of the eu edited. no _ we don't want it. a surprise coming out of the eu edited. no surprise . out of the eu edited. no surprise that the — out of the eu edited. no surprise that the uk government rejected it prevents _ that the uk government rejected it prevents out of hand despite the fact that — prevents out of hand despite the fact that it's a limited proposal. it fact that it's a limited proposal. it will— fact that it's a limited proposal. it will be — fact that it's a limited proposal. it will be visa driven. it'5 fact that it's a limited proposal. it will be visa driven. it's not a return— it will be visa driven. it's not a return to — it will be visa driven. it's not a return to freedom of movement. that governments reaction i found depressing. it governments reaction i found depressing-— governments reaction i found de-aressin. ., ., , depressing. it was a timing a bit oor depressing. it was a timing a bit poor from _ depressing. it was a timing a bit poor from the — depressing. it was a timing a bit poor from the european - depressing. it was a timing a bit poor from the european union? | depressing. it was a timing a bit. poor from the european union? it does put them on the spot. let's face it. _ does put them on the spot. let's face it, brexit was bad for young people _ face it, brexit was bad for young people in— face it, brexit was bad for young people in particular. there are opportunities to live, work and study— opportunities to live, work and study abroad. this would've been a modest _ study abroad. this would've been a modest correction to that. the really— modest correction to that. the really depressing thing was that the labour— really depressing thing was that the labour party also rejected this pretty—
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labour party also rejected this pretty much out of hand, despite the fact that _ pretty much out of hand, despite the fact that it— pretty much out of hand, despite the fact that it pairs well with the public — fact that it pairs well with the public -- _ fact that it pairs well with the public. —— polls well with the public — public. —— polls well with the public the _ public. —— polls well with the public the government after the election— public the government after the election later this year, what ever carla, _ election later this year, what ever carla, do — election later this year, what ever carla, do they confront some of these _ carla, do they confront some of these brexit demons and have the courage to— these brexit demons and have the courage to get behind pretty modest proposal— courage to get behind pretty modest proposal which would be very good news _ proposal which would be very good news for _ proposal which would be very good news for young folks in this country and in _ news for young folks in this country and in the — news for young folks in this country and in the eu. news for young folks in this country and in the ed— and in the eu. once you come back to, no and in the eu. once you come back to. no doubt- _ and in the eu. once you come back to, no doubt. it _ and in the eu. once you come back to, no doubt. it will— and in the eu. once you come back to, no doubt. it will certainly - to, no doubt. it will certainly form part of the debate. we're at a time ivo philip thank you for your company this evening so that we will be back same time tomorrow. do you join us for that. good night. hello from the bbc sport centre. a huge shock potentially on the cards in the premier league with liverpool losing at everton in the merseyside derby which would deal a massive blow to the title ambitions. everton were down in 16th when head
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before half—time and they were grateful recipients for the liverpool defendant to make it to. dominic heading home to what looks like a big upset there for that where the latter stages of that match approaching the 90th minute. liverpool set to miss the chance to pull level on points back on the top. wolves had a late goal ruled out for our side and that match. in the later stages of the and sheffield united fernandez helping in the come back at old trafford with two goals without its lt—2 at the moment. crystal palace are 2—0 up the moment. crystal palace are 2—0 up against newcastle. both manage 19 for the we know both the players of
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age 19, they both played for the same club. the bbc has approached the club that it has declined to comment both players were released on bail after being interviewed by the police. today a police spokesperson said officers had arrested two men following a report of a rate for the a 19—year—old man was arrested on suspicion of aiding and abetting a rate for the second 19—year—old man was arrested on suspicion of rape. the allegations were first reported in the sun newspaper, which are the alleged attack took place on friday. is not known if the have been suspended pending the outcome of the police investigation. they have been high profile incidents involving top—flight footballers in the past. a led to the premier league introducing manual consent training for all staff in 2022. onto tennis, and disappointment for emma raducanu. after her impressive wins at the billie jean king cup, and progress in stuttgart last week. she's been knocked out of the madrid open in the first round,
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by argentine qualfier maria lourdes carle — who took the first set 6—2. and she continued her dominance in the second — raducanu unable to steady herself, made more unforced errors — as she was ultimately beaten 6—2 6—2. and also out in the first round — is harriet dart — top of your screen. four love up in the second set, she should have levelled the match, but credit to her spanish opponent cristina bucsa who reeled off the next six games to win in straight sets. jack draper is on to the second round though, after beating the australian thanasi kokkinakis on a decisive third set. it finished 6—3, 3—6, 7—5. he will now move on to face hubert hurkacz tomorrow. some news to alarm rafa nadalfans — he says he's not sure if he will be able to play at next month's french open after pushing through the pain barrier in his comeback from injury. the 37—year—old, who is a 22—time
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grand slam champion, said that he is far from being in top form. from being in top form and that he's only playing in the first round of the madrid open on thursday as a personal sacrifice. nadal, who has said he expects to retire after this season, returned to competition in brisbane in january after almost a year sidelined with a hip flexor injury, but hasn't played consistently since. ronnie o'sullivan made a fine start to his bid to win a record—breaking eighth world title as he dominated the first session against welsh qualifierjackson page. o'sullivan is looking to move clear of stephen hendry�*s seven crucible successes and holds an emphatic 8—1 lead over 22—year—old page, the world number a3. o'sullivan needs to win only two frames when the match resumes on thursday. meawhile china's ding junhui is out after losing the deciding frame in a dramatic first round match against the world number 17 jack lisowski. a clearance break of 131 from ding, who was runner up here eight years ago but has never won the world title, levelled the match at 9—all. but it was the englishman, lisowski, who came
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out on top in that final frame — to set up a meeting with stuart bingham in the second round. plenty of football to update you on. currently everton 2— the bull zero. all the rest of the results of the bbc sport website. we will see you soon. hello. it has been another rather cold—feeling day for many parts of the uk. any sign of the temperatures lifting over the next few days? well, certainly notjust yet — staying chilly through thursday and friday. there will be some sunshine, but also some showers — some of those showers wintry over high ground in the north of the uk. a cold air mass enveloping the country right now, that cold air being drawn down from the north. also coming down from the north overnight, some areas of cloud, some bits and pieces of showery rain — i say rain, cold enough for some of the showers over high ground
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in scotland to be falling as snow. some snow mixing in above, say, 2—300 metres' elevation. it'll be cold enough for a frost as well, temperatures dropping perilously close to freezing, below freezing in some locations. so for thursday morning, quite a cold start. areas of cloud bringing some showery rain across parts of england and wales, brightening up through the day across northern england. northern ireland and scotland, seeing sunny spells and showers — still some wintriness in those showers over high ground in scotland, and temperatures in a range between 8—13 celsius, so below par for this time of year. through thursday night and into friday, it looks like we'll see this weather system here just grazing the south of england and the channel islands, so that will bring some cloud, perhaps some showery rain here through the day. elsewhere, it is another sunny—spells—and—showers day. still some wintry showers in those showers over the hills and mountains of scotland, and those temperatures for most between 8—12 celsius. now, as we head into the start of the weekend, for most, it'll be a cold morning on saturday, it's another
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sunshine—and—showers day. but turn your eyes to the south — an area of thicker cloud and some outbreaks of rain pushing across the channel islands, into southern counties of england through saturday afternoon. with that, temperatures will start to lift a little — ilt celsius in london. and that is the story of the weekend weather, some slightly less cold air beginning to spill its way up from the south. certainly not going to be a heat wave, and it's certainly not going to be completely dry, because that slightly—less—cold air is being brought our way by this area of low pressure. looks like we will see some outbreaks of rain continuing on into sunday, particularly across england and wales. the chance of seeing something drier and brighter for northern ireland and scotland.
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tonight at 10pm: three people are arrested after the deaths of five people in the channel — who were attempting to cross in a small boat. today in northern france, apparently undeterred by the tragedy or the prospect of being sent to rwanda, more head to make the crossing. in south wales, two teachers and a pupil are in hospital after a stabbing at a school — a teenage girl has been arrested. sirjeffrey donaldson, former leader of the dup, appears in court charged with rape and other historical sexual offences. his wife faces four charges of aiding and abetting. the legacy of covid lockdown in england's schools — and the anxiety which is part of some teenagers' lives. it was just a churning constant cycle of, "i'm not going to school."
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"i need you to go to school."

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