good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... the senior executive at the centre of the post office scandal, who was criticised for giving misleading evidence in court, will face questions at the post office inquiry today. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after three people were injured in a school stabbing in ammanford in wales. labour promises to overhaul the rail system if it wins the next election — including nationalising the train network within five years of coming to power. a major study has put england at the top of a global chart for alcohol use among school children.

a massive blow to liverpool's premier league title hopes is inflicted by neighbours everton, who pull off a shock win in the merseyside derby, and it pretty much ensures they're staying up. good morning. after a chilly start to the _ good morning. after a chilly start to the day, — good morning. after a chilly start to the day, for most of us it will be a _ to the day, for most of us it will be a day— to the day, for most of us it will be a day of— to the day, for most of us it will be a day of bright spells sunny intervals— be a day of bright spells sunny intervals and some showers. not as windy— intervals and some showers. not as windy as _ intervals and some showers. not as windy as yesterday but it does remain— windy as yesterday but it does remain unsettled and some showers. not as_ remain unsettled and some showers. not as windy as yesterday but it does _ not as windy as yesterday but it does remain unsettled right the way through— does remain unsettled right the way through the weekend. all the details later on_ it's thursday, the 25th of april. a former post office executive, who's described as knowing more about the faulty horizon it system than anyone else, is giving evidence at the inquiry into the scandal later today. angela van den bogerd was the company's most important witness in the legal action taken

by subpostmaster alan bates, and was heavily criticised by the judge in that case for misleading the court in her evidence. our business correspondent, emma simpson, has the details. angela is our head of network services. she was paula vennells' right hand woman — one of the big characters in the drama at the centre of so many ruined lives. we're all so sorry for your loss. bogerd was personally involved in many cases. desperate — he was really desperate. and overseeing complaints from subpostmasters. she was also involved in the mediation scheme, supposed to help them. angela van den bogerd, head of partnerships. here she is sitting next to ceo paula vennells before mps when they were told the post office had found no evidence of any miscarriages ofjustice. what we've wanted to do and been very committed to doing is doing a thorough investigation on each of the issues raised by each of the applications. we've not dragged our feet. but this was all part of the alleged cover up.

i've managed to find some letters. later that year, parmod kalia got a letter from angela. he was wrongly convicted of stealing from his post office in 2001 and sent to prison. he wrote in after seeing a bbc panorama, asking the post office to look again at his case. horizon does not have functionality that allows post office or fujitsu to edit or delete the transactions recorded by branches. well... that wasn't correct. we know it's not correct. she finishes by saying, "if you think you've been wrongly convicted, get a solicitor." when i saw that, i literally did collapse on the floor, knowing there's no way i can get a solicitor and sue them in court. what has the post office done to you, parmod? they've broken me, broken me. 22—odd years. lost. never going to get that time back with the family — with work or anything. how important is it for you to see

her answer questions now? i need to know, has she finally understood and accepted where she was wrong and maybe put her hands up and say, "yeah, sorry." that would mean a lot to us. it's a big moment for the inquiry, too. she's a person whose finger was in lots of pies. she made a lot of big decisions. so she's got a lot to answer for. angela van den bogerd has already said she would cooperate fully and willingly with the inquiry. you'll be hard pushed to find an empty seat in this room today. emma simpson, bbc news. charlie, you have more details on a story— charlie, you have more details on a story that _ charlie, you have more details on a story that developed yesterday. more details coming _ story that developed yesterday. m7 details coming through. let's take you through what we know.

a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a stabbing at a school in south—west wales. two teachers and a teenage pupil were taken to hospital with non—life—threatening wounds. the bbc understands that one of the injured is the school's deputy head teacher fiona elias. tomos morgan reports. this was the scene at ysgol dyffryn aman after what was a shocking incident. two teachers and a people stabbed and taken to hospital with non—life—threatening injuries. a raft of emergency service vehicles and personnel attended the scene. worried parents rushed to the gate waiting for any news. this boy in year 10 was inside when the alarm was raised. i was in the it room. i walked out as break ended and i heard there been a stabbing from this pupil but i didn't believe her until i heard the code red. parents have been waiting here for hours outside ysgol dyffryn aman, waiting for their children to be released from their classrooms.

those that have contacted their parents say they have been fed and questioned by the police. parents have also said the emergency services and the school have been sporadic with information about what's happened. i've tried to ring the school several times, the phones are out of order — they're not answering the phones. as we can see, the school is on lockdown, so we can't get into the school. very worrying, very concerning. even though we know the person has been apprehended, still concerned about the well—being of... you know, their minds, little minds. at around quarter past three, the children were released. bit shaky. just cos you know, it happened. it's setting in now that like that had happened and we were there. relief. a little bit. yes. because it's over, everything has finished. dyfed—powys police say they've recovered a knife and that a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and remains in custody. tomas morgan, bbc news, ammanford. labour is setting out its plans to re—nationalise the rail network within five years if it wins the next general election.

the party is also committing to automatic refunds for train delays and improved internet connections. we'rejoined now by our chief political correspondent henry zeffman. morning to you. how much detail are they going into as to the cast when, where and how?— they going into as to the cast when, where and how? well, the when and how we know _ where and how? well, the when and how we know quite _ where and how? well, the when and how we know quite a _ where and how? well, the when and how we know quite a lot _ where and how? well, the when and how we know quite a lot about. - where and how? well, the when and how we know quite a lot about. the | how we know quite a lot about. the labour party says if they win the general election they will fully renationalise rail operators within a first term in government, that is five years. in terms of cost, they say, you have heard a lot about nationalisation being expensive but this one is not because they claim they will end franchises as they come up for renewal, the system whereby different rail lines are operated by different private companies. when the contracts expire, they will take them back

into public ownership rather than re—franchising them. they say they will nationalise rail operators, a new company under state control would operate the row network but not the rolling stock company. the government would still lease the trains from a highly profitable private companies. they say this would fix the broken railways, unfit to meet the needs of modern britain. also commuter friendly staff, are simpler ticketing system, where you would always be able to get the best priced ticket when you want it rather than a slightly confusing patchwork system you might encounter now. the rail industry, given they would not exist under these plans, has been very vocally critical already, saying there would be increased costs to the taxpayer because she will not have the private sector culture from the company is currently operating the railways and that would ultimately

mean reduced train services or a higher subsidy from government, which the government will have to find a way to fund. a similar argument from the conservative rail minister. he argues this will do nothing to improve train reliability and affordability and as a result taxes will rise for hard—working people. the labour party has been criticised, including from some within their ranks, for not being ambitious enough. here is a meaty policy vocally criticised by the conservatives, a proper election battleground. conservatives, a proper election battleground-— conservatives, a proper election battlearound. ., ~ , ., , . ukraine has begun using long—range ballistic missiles that were secretly provided by the us against invading russian forces. president biden personally approved the shipment after russia began using similar weapons it had secured from north korea. the missiles are part of a £1 billion aid package for ukraine that was agreed in march. spain's prime minister says he's stepping back from public duties while he considers whether to resign over corruption

allegations against his wife. pedro sanchez made the announcement after a court launched an inquiry into begona gomez in response to a complaint raised by an anti—corruption group with links to the far right. she has not been charged. the uk's first memorial for lgbt armed forces personnel is set to be built at the national arboretum in staffordshire. the government has given the charity, fighting with pride, £350,000 to construct a memorial at the iso—acre site. it was illegal to be gay in the british military until 2000. ofsted's single word judgments are set to remain in place despite campaigners asking for them to be scrapped, following the suicide of a primary school headteacher. ruth perry died after her school in reading was downgraded from "outstanding" to "inadequate". our education editor, branwenjeffreys, reports. an inspection at this small primary

started this debate. the single word judgment, "inadequate", haunted the head teacher. ruth perry took her own life, knowing the school would be downgraded. a coroner found the inspection had contributed. ruth's sisterjulia waters has campaigned for single word judgements to go. mps agreed after an inquiry, but the government says the system should stay. i'm deeply upset — more than a little bit angry that after all that time, all that commitment, all that talking, all that apparent listening, they're not going to act. they are not going to do the things that they know my family and so many others need and want to change. headteachers' unions said the government was failing to listen and concerns remained about the system. if we have another tragedy that will sit firmly on the shoulders of ministers,

who are failing to grapple with this problem right now. we have calls from members regularly on our helpline in crisis because of inspection, and we know we are so very close to that happening again. it's not scaremongering. we've seen it happen once, we cannot afford to see it happen again. the new head of ofsted says he wants to consult widely. the labour party have already said they would scrap the one word judgement. branwen jeffreys, bbc news. venice has become the first city in the world to charge tourists coming on day trips to enter the city. the five euro charge is part of a wider pilot aimed at managing the city's problem with over—tourism. last summer, unesco said it would consider adding the city to its list of world heritage sites at risk, highlighting the need for better preservation of its historic sites.

a lighthouse injersey that is one of the island's most recognisable landmarks has turned 150 years old. corbiere lighthouse was the first in the british isles to be built of concrete and is still working today. it has guided seafarers through the island's treacherous waters since april 187a. a dramatic scene! events are taking place throughout this week to mark the anniversary. i think that lighthouse is beautiful, one of the most beautiful scenes i have seen. imagine being there as the sun is setting. stunning! absolutely wonderful. here's carol with a look at the weather. you said we should expect anything except settled weather for the next few days. is that right? the weather for the next —

few days. is that right? the weather for the next few _ few days. is that right? the weather for the next few days _ few days. is that right? the weather for the next few days will _ few days. is that right? the weather for the next few days will remain - for the next few days will remain unsettled. no lengthy dry spells of sunny weather with high temperatures. today is a cold start with frost around. chilly generally. we are looking at bright spells with sunny intervals and showers. for england and wales, we have showers in the north of england sinking south through the day. some of them will be heading across london, west london and southern counties in the channel islands later on. for northern ireland quit you start with showers. it will brighten up and dry up. in scotland, the showers in the south clearing. a lot of dry weather, some sunshine with varying amounts of cloud. showers in the north will be wintry on higher ground. it will be a cold. these are the temperatures come in seven to 13 north to south. this evening and overnight all of their showers in the south pull away from the

south—east. not too far away from the channel islands and the south—west. we will hang on to the showers across parts of north—east scotland and north—east england. it will be cold tonight. a widespread frost. anywhere from the midlands north. where you see the blue is where we have temperatures below freezing. temperatures on the charts indicate what you will expect in towns and cities. as we move into tomorrow, you start off with these showers in the north and east of scotland. some of them will be wintry on the higher ground. that the showers will develop through the day were sunshine and also bright spells. this rain coming across the channel islands into the south—west. temperatures eight to 12 degrees. i am looking forward to it getting warmer. thank you. girls in the uk are drinking,

smoking and vaping more than boys. that's according to a new report commissioned by the world health organisation. the study, which is one of the largest of its kind, also said england is "top of the charts" globally for child alcohol use. the report examined data from 280,000 children between the ages of 11 and 15 from 44 countries and showed that, by the age of 13, 57% of girls in england had drunk alcohol, compared to half of boys. the report also found girls are more likely to smoke. more than a quarter of 15—year—old girls in england have smoked a cigarette in their lifetimes, compared to just 16% of boys. and it says two—fifths of girls in england and scotland have vaped by the age of 15, which is higher than countries like france, germany and spain. the study also claimed that children in scotland and wales are more likely to have ever smoked cannabis than those in many other countries, with 15—year—old boys in scotland having the highest rate for boys overall. the world health organisation says the widespread use of harmful substances among children

"is a serious public health threat". our health correspondent, dominic hughes, has more. vaping among uk teenagers has soared in the last few years. in 2013, it was fewer than 1% of 11 to 17 year olds. a decade later, it was nearly 8%. there are now more vapers than smokers — a trend confirmed by the world health organisation survey. the government has already introduced measures to clamp down on the promotion and illegal sale of vapes to under—18s. but the data on teenage drinking will also be a concern. at the age of 11, more than a third of boys and girls in england say they have drunk alcohol. by the age of 13, more than half have done so. both of these figures are higher than any of the other countries in the study. and, compared with other european countries, rates of drunkenness in the uk were high, particularly among girls. and we've talked about the particular increase — or not increased use but higher use —

of alcohol in a problematic way, as well as vaping by young girls more than boys. and we think influencers may be playing more of a part of that. so the more that can be done in that space as well, the better. health experts say while drinking among young people is in decline overall, the uk remains one of the heaviest drinking nations in the world and point out the earlier a child drinks, the more likely it is they will develop problems with alcohol later in life. dominic hughes, bbc news. let's ta ke let's take a look at some of the papers. the daily mirror says labour's election promise to nationalise rail "in five years" is the biggest overhaul of the train industry in a generation. it carries a quote from shadow transport secretary louise haigh, who says: "we'll deliver

root—and—branch reforms." we'll bejoined by louise haigh in around half an hour's time. the daily mail is one of several papers which leads with the arrest of a teenage girl on suspicion of attempted murder after three people were injured in a school stabbing in carmarthenshire. the guardian is carrying an image of military horses running loose through central london after being spooked by noise from a building site near buckingham palace yesterday afternoon. an army spokesman told the bbc that five horses ran loose — unseating four soldiers in the process. and one more story to bring you this morning is the passing of the d—day veteran bill gladden from suffolk, who you may recall we met as he celebrated his 100th birthday back injanuary. mr gladden flew into normandy on a glider and survived being shot by gun fire from a tank in 1944, aged just 20. here he is sharing his

memory of that day. they dropped the tow rope. you keep still. all i could do was freeze spread eagled and that is how i made my rather unorthodox landing in normandy. ibiiiii gladden talking about his memories of the day. very fortunate to be able to speak to those veterans, aren't we? the olympics coming up in less than 100 days now. i am very excited. they will be in paris, beginning on the 24th ofjuly. whenever there is an olympics, i remember 2012 in london, there was a buzz around the whole city. what paris is trying to do is get that buzz going among the tourist attractions as well. the louvre is a

beautiful art gallery with works including the mona lisa. can you imagine doing yoga among the art? i am seeing an impression of this. the staff havejoined this am seeing an impression of this. the staff have joined this yoga class. they are surrounded by beautiful statues, this is in the garden. you can do dance, yoga, work—out sessions. there will be instructors. you can also be amongst the impressionist. fora moment you can also be amongst the impressionist. for a moment! thought you were going to say they will hold olympic events. if you go to see the olympics, why not take advantage of these beautiful buildings? great architecture in paris. immerse yourself not only in art but feel part of the room. i would love to do a yoga class in the louvre. it would be echoey.

the outlaws is a comedy thriller, which follows a group of strangers in bristol, who are forced together to work on community projects after committing crime. it returns to the bbc and amazon next month. and ahead of the release of the third series, our reporter, pam caulfield, has been to meet some of the cast. stan is also my protege, which is a french word for minion. isn't minion already a french word? do you want more hours? the law—breakers are back together. this time they're cleaning up st werburghs city farm, and supervisor diane has a new sidekick. and so he is kind of diane's number one fan. he takes everything she says as if it is just heaven sent, writes it all down, learns from her and she, of course, loves to be in charge of somebody who's, you know, hanging on her every word. stan is an extension of me — a second head growing out of my neck. and i want you to treat this second head with respect. as much respect as the first head? no. so how much respect? about half.

having filmed three series in bristol now, the cast see it as a second home. bristolians. is that how they're called? yeah. they're just very friendly people, you know? they've got a good accent, they've got good energy. my dad's side of the family actually is from bristol, so my cousins have got a really strong bristolian accent. so i grew up around bristolian accents and kind of know them ish through that. so that's what i use as inspiration for diane. i want you to blow this and say, " back to work". her co—star gamba, who plays benjamin, grew up in st paul's. yeah, it made it easy. i, you know... i've got loads of cousins that i would take stuff from, you know, like styling and just little bits and pieces that helped build my character. and it all came from an authentic place. and the scenery too is authentic bristol. because it's got such a great, like, graffiti art scene. itjust looks incredible on camera as well. so i'm so pleased we got to use so many exterior locations to kind of really capture the essence of it.

this time, weston—super—mare also features heavily. the series creator and bristolian stephen merchant is still in it, as is hollywood star christopher walken. so what can we expect from series three? the gang get brought back together, but i think that's as far as i can.... i can take it without spoiling anything. you'll get to see familiar faces, old friends and hopefully just be gripped like you were with series one and two. and there's not long to wait. the outlaws is back on bbc one and the iplayer next month. pam caulfield, bbc news. still to come on breakfast... his videos satirising public figures like donald trump, prince andrew and liz truss took social media by storm. now, the comedian michael spicer has a new podcast. we'll hear more about it at ten to eight. time now to get the news,

travel and weather where you are. hello, good morning from bbc london. it's a week to go until polling day for the mayoral election. to help you make up your mind, the four main candidates went head to head in a bbc debate last night taking on the key issues including policing, crime, and housing. but it was over the issue of �*pay—per—mile' where the candidates clashed. i'v e i've instructed the commissioner to make sure any work commenced on dot borisjohnson is stopped. when the tory candidate tries to scare londoners in relation to saying this is what happened under the tories. £21 million has been spent on this already— £21 million has been spent on this already and you know that. sadik khan _ already and you know that. sadik khan said — already and you know that. sadik khan said he would never bring in the us— khan said he would never bring in the us expansion, and he did and nobody— the us expansion, and he did and nobody trust you any more. he nobody trust you any more. brought in nobody trust you any more. he

brought in the expansion with nine months' _ brought in the expansion with nine months' notice _ brought in the expansion with nine months' notice that _ brought in the expansion with nine months' notice that made - brought in the expansion with nine months' notice that made it- brought in the expansion with nine| months' notice that made it harder for people — months' notice that made it harder for pe0pte to — months' notice that made it harder for people to adapt _ months' notice that made it harder for people to adapt and _ months' notice that made it harder for people to adapt and it's - for people to adapt and it's important _ for people to adapt and it's important we _ for people to adapt and it's important we make - for people to adapt and it's important we make it - for people to adapt and it's important we make it easy| for people to adapt and it's i important we make it easy for for people to adapt and it's _ important we make it easy for people to adapt— important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally. _ important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally. this - important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally.— to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness _ to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness and _ to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness and what - to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness and what i've l all about fairness and what i've been saying is i'd have a conversation with londoners about the charging model they want. i think the family should talk about benefit from a pay per mile system. you can watch the debate — �*a mayor for london' in full, tonight on bbc1 at 8 o'clock. there will be more strike action on london underground this friday and into saturday morning. customer service managers who are members of the tssa union will walk out in a dispute over terms and conditions. tfl said it's disappointed but doesn't expect the action to cause "significant disruption". tower bridge has had its windows cleaned, and it's quite the effort. specialist window cleaners abseiled from the tower�*s twin high—level walkways to clean the underside of their glass floors. it's the first time the underside of the floors has been cleaned since the glass was installed a decade ago, the work was carried out in the early hours of wednesday morning, during the bridge's latest overnight

closures for maintenance. we've done it on smaller bridges but not quite of this stature more of this procedure as well. so it's a huge honour. let's take a look at the tubes now. there's a good service on the tubes this morning. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. hello there. it is a cold start this morning. we start the day with temperatures in low single figures reasonably dry, though bright too, but the cloud is going to start to move in. and with that some showers later on today, those showers could become a little more prolonged, quite heavy towards the evening. temperatures today reaching 13 celsius. the wind coming from the west. so it's not feeling quite so cold as it has for the last few days. now, those showers will fade overnight, becoming largely dry. still a fair amount of cloud, but some clearer spells, especially further north. temperatures there dropping to three celsius. now, low pressure is in charge as we head into friday, but it is looking largely dry. should get some brighter spells, some sunny spells, variable amounts

of cloud through tomorrow, the chance of a shower, temperatures around 12 celsius. now, as we head into the weekend, again, that low pressure stays with us. we'll see some spells of rain for a time. but the temperature, it does start to improve just a little 1a celsius through the weekend, getting a little warmer into next week. that's it. we're back in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. we have spoken to dozens of sub—postmasters who have battle to clear their name for years due to issues with the horizon it system. it's notjust sub—postmaster is affected. we will be hearing later about all of the children of those peoples whose lives have also been

turned upside down. but today the inquiry continues and then it is there for us. as is often it will be a crucial day of evidence there. yes, it will because angela van den bogarde _ yes, it will because angela van den bogarde is— yes, it will because angela van den bogarde is a key figure in the scandal— bogarde is a key figure in the scandal that ruined hundreds of lives _ scandal that ruined hundreds of lives. during her35 scandal that ruined hundreds of lives. during her 35 years of working _ lives. during her 35 years of working for the post office she held a number— working for the post office she held a number of senior positions including _ a number of senior positions including the director in charge of it and _ including the director in charge of it and in — including the director in charge of it and in charge of hr until she left the — it and in charge of hr until she left the organisation in 2020. she was personally involved in many of the cases— was personally involved in many of the cases that led to hundreds of innocent — the cases that led to hundreds of innocent sub—postmasters being innocent sub— postmasters being wrongfully innocent sub—postmasters being wrongfully prosecuted for theft and crimes _ wrongfully prosecuted for theft and crimes they did not commit. many of them _ crimes they did not commit. many of them went— crimes they did not commit. many of them went to prison. she was in charge _ them went to prison. she was in charge of— them went to prison. she was in charge of overseeing the complaints system _ charge of overseeing the complaints system from sub—postmasters and

involved _ system from sub—postmasters and involved in — system from sub—postmasters and involved in the mediation scheme that was— involved in the mediation scheme that was supposed to help them. that is why— that was supposed to help them. that is why the _ that was supposed to help them. that is why the evidence she gives today and tomorrow to the inquiry is so important. — and tomorrow to the inquiry is so important, both in establishing what happened _ important, both in establishing what happened and also in terms of getting — happened and also in terms of getting some answers for those who suffered _ getting some answers for those who suffered so badly as a result of this scandal. here is a reminder of how she _ this scandal. here is a reminder of how she fits— this scandal. here is a reminder of how she fits into the bigger picture _ we're all so sorry for your loss. bogerd was personally involved in many cases. this scandal is so much bigger than people realise. ijust needed to do something for the kids. want this to be a place where we can all hold each other�*s hand. katie downie launched lost chances for subpostmaster children last month. her dad, tony was wrongly accused

of theft in the horizon post office scandal and faced financial ruin. upset and anger that a system has done that to him. now her campaign group has become a vital source of strength for sons and daughters of others wrongly accused by the post office. i feel very angry that this has happened to my family. i feel angry they accused my mother of these things. they my parents have had to live with it. it's affected their entire lives effectively. mohammed's mum doesn't want to talk publicly about what happened. she was a sub postmistress in feltham in west london. faults with the horizon software made it look like money had gone missing. she and her husband, david, tried to make up the shortfall. there was a huge debt, which was well over six figures, and this debt was for my parents. they were worried about losing the house. they were worried about bankruptcy. he had a small pension. he cashed out the entire pension. he had all his savings. he had to take out all the savings. and i think he even went to friends and family for loans, which he found incredibly embarrassing. their behaviour was nasty. we suffered a lot. they tried to take over this house as well because we didn't -

have the money. it's been extremely difficult for mum. she's had severe health issues because of it. she's still to this day on medication for anxiety, for depression. she's lost friends and she's had the loss of reputation. how hard was this for you as a child growing up, given what was going on with your parents? dad, i think he found it very difficult to tell us because we're his children. he didn't want to burden us. and so he it's only now that we've grown up and become adults that he actually tells us the full extent of it. this group lost chances. how important a role has it played for you? i realised how many children are out there who have gone through exactly what we've gone through in our childhood. and it's been it's been amazing to be able to just speak with them and hear their stories. we can only pray that this never happens again. this is my father's old post office.

i used to come home from school and i'd say hello to my dad over here. when it went wrong, it went disastrously wrong. and that's yours. his family still run the shop in oxfordshire, in which their post office once operated. in 2011, his dad, vipin, was wrongly convicted of fraud following apparent shortfalls of £75,000. faulty software had been responsible. the last 13 years have been hellish. i've lost my savings. i couldn't afford to keep up with my degree because the family finances weren't good. it was a question of helping mum and dad, or facing disaster as a family. my major achievement of life, of being a trusted, honest, upstanding citizen of community or pillar of community was trashed by post office's

corporate greed. posters wanted dead or alive. i was stuck up on our shop door. outside the shop, this wreath appeared. lot of local opposition and resentment, we came near to complete financial ruin. how important has lost chances been for you? i believe it's an important group. it's a space where you can speak about your ordeal, how things went badly for us children of subpostmasters, even if currently the law doesn't permit it for secondary victims. there is a moral case for for us children to receive some compensation. has anyone from the post office ever said sorry to you? no. more than 120 relatives of post pffice victims are now in contact office victims are now in contact with each other thanks to this group offering solace, support and advice to others caught up in this scandal. tim muffett, bbc news. we can speak to nick wallace who has covered the scandal in detail and

written books on it and been involved in documentaries and radio programmes and written for private solksjaer buy. how important is the evidence we hear from angela van den bogarde today —— she was crucial in what was happening on the ground for sub—postmasters having problems in their branches on the executive committee team. she their branches on the executive committee team.— committee team. she was the right-hand — committee team. she was the right-hand woman _ committee team. she was the right-hand woman at - committee team. she was the right-hand woman at the - committee team. she was the l right-hand woman at the select right—hand woman at the select committee and we saw how she was betrayed in the drama. she is someone who knows everything about the post office, the decisions of the post office, the decisions of the senior leadership team and crucially she was immersed in the misery of these sub—postmasters themselves as they tried desperately to get the case across. itruihat themselves as they tried desperately to get the case across.— to get the case across. what do you think we might _ to get the case across. what do you think we might hear _ to get the case across. what do you think we might hear from _ to get the case across. what do you think we might hear from her - to get the case across. what do you think we might hear from her today| think we might hearfrom her today and tomorrow in the evidence she gives? and tomorrow in the evidence she cives? ~ �* ., , , ~ gives? we're not entirely sure. we will hear the _ gives? we're not entirely sure. we will hear the truth, _ gives? we're not entirely sure. we will hear the truth, maybe, - gives? we're not entirely sure. we l will hear the truth, maybe, because in 2018 she gave evidence at a high court trial in which the judge said she was expressly trying to mislead him. i've seen her give evidence over the course of two high court

trials and once the ruling came down she changed her tune significantly and one would hope she would be alert to the factories on oath and under a significant degree of public scrutiny and don't forget there is a metropolitan police investigation going on at the moment into whether or not there was a conspiracy to pervert the course ofjustice at the post office and she was right in the middle of what was going on at that time, so she does have serious questions to answer and it is the sub—postmasters who want the truth more than anything because they were told by her repeatedly over a period of years that there was nothing wrong with the horizon it system and they were doing something wrong in their branches. find they were doing something wrong in their branches.— their branches. and what will they want to hear _ their branches. and what will they want to hear from _ their branches. and what will they want to hear from her _ their branches. and what will they want to hear from her today, - their branches. and what will theyl want to hear from her today, those want to hearfrom her today, those sub—postmasters who were the victims of the scandal? sub-postmasters who were the victims of the scandal?— of the scandal? whether or not she was a conduit _ of the scandal? whether or not she was a conduit for— of the scandal? whether or not she was a conduit for what _ of the scandal? whether or not she was a conduit for what the - of the scandal? whether or not she was a conduit for what the post - was a conduit for what the post office were telling her or whether she was generating the misinformation of her own back because the post office lied expressly to panorama and i've seen a letter in which angela van den

bogarde says the panorama of 2015 which exposed a huge amount of the candle was misleading and inaccurate and i heard a tape in which she was told specifically by independent investigators that a clear miscarriage ofjustice was likely to have happened in 2013 but in 2015 and 2018 she was saying no miscarriages ofjustice had been found by the post office, so i'd like to think the inquiry will get to the bottom of why she said that over the course of her evidence. she is giving evidence for two days. taste is giving evidence for two days. we will be following events in the inquiry closely and if you want to follow the detailed, there is a bbc live page on the bbc news website updated through the day and there will be coverage on the bbc news channel as well. let's talk to mike. you are talking about a city divided, at least when it comes to sport.— it comes to sport. divided by only stanley park. _

it comes to sport. divided by only stanley park, not _ it comes to sport. divided by only stanley park, not far _ it comes to sport. divided by only stanley park, not far between - stanley park, not far between everton and liverpool but what a contrast, a huge contrast in emotions last night and what a time for everton to finally win the merseyside derby again with a win thatis merseyside derby again with a win that is a big surprise and almost keeps everton up. they can celebrate their premier league status and again and at the same time delivers this huge monumental blow to liverpool's hopes. i’m this huge monumental blow to liverpool's hopes.— this huge monumental blow to liverpool's hopes. i'm pleased to have done _ liverpool's hopes. i'm pleased to have done blue _ liverpool's hopes. i'm pleased to have done blue and _ liverpool's hopes. i'm pleased to have done blue and red. - everton fans have waited 1a years for this moment at goodison park to beat their merseyside rivals and the timing couldn't have been sweeter for them. it means they should now avoid relegation, while it delivers this huge blow to liverpool's title hopes, handing the inititaive to manchester city and arsenal. joe lynskey reports. injurgen klopp's time at liverpool, this could be the scoreline that hurts his team the most. a merseyside derby, a match he'd not

lost on this ground. but this time this fixture did strange things to his defence. branthwaite off the post and in! jarred branthwaite for everton, whose shot crossed the line before his team mate made sure. this season this club's had eight points deducted. a win here would take them clear of the drop zone. for liverpool, to win the league, they felt they had to win this match. they knew with defeat they'd stay three points off the top. and calvert—lewin! 2—0, everton. dominic calvert—lewin scored the goal. scored the goal everton had had to wait for. they last won the derby at goodison in 2010, but the end of klopp's unbeaten run here may also end his title hopes. yeah, what we need now is better

football from our side and bad football from two other sides. so that's how it is now. they have to lose games. not only one, but two. historically, they don't do that. there's progress, you know, and that's you know, that's part of what we do. that's part of what i do and my staff do and the players as well. there's progress. you can see it, hopefully. we should be on 41 points. of course, you know, it's a different story then, but at the moment that's a big story and that's the story that we're going to enjoy. it was the score they'd hoped for at arsenal and city, but no game this season has meant this much to everton. in this year of points deductions, they are now set for safety. klopp's goodbye to goodison was everton's breakthrough night. joe lynskey, bbc news. after their fa cup semi final wobbles at old trafford as they found themselves behind twice to bottom club sheffield united

in the premier league. there were huge sighs of relief, as bruno fernandes helped turned the match around and secure the win with that wonder strike and it finished 4—2. the win leaves them 6th, but still way adrift of the big european places, while sheffield united who put in a spirited display could be relegated this weekend. what a impact the new crystal palace manager oliver glasner is having. he's transformed the form of striker, jean—philippe mateta, who scored twice at selhurst park as they beat newcastle 2—0. that third win in a row, guarantees palace's place in the premier league next season, but it's a blow for newcastle's european hopes. and bournemouth have climbed into the top half of the table after a 1—0 win away at wolves. antoine semenyo with the goal. it's been a really confident start by ronnie o'sullivan, at the world snooker championship. he needs just two more frames later today, for a place in the second round. o'sullivan was unstoppable as he raced into an 8—1 lead, overjackson page yesterday.

he's looking to win his 8th world title, to move him one clear of the record he holdsjointly with stephen hendry. one of the favourites, mark allen, is safely through after a 10—6 win over robbie williams. allen has never won the world title and is hoping to follow in the footsteps of fellow northern irishmen alex higgins and dennis taylor. and he'll face eitherjohn higgins orjamiejones next. higgins — a four—time winner in sheffield — has a match on his hands here — he's 5—4 up heading into this evening's second session. now sheffield's crucible theatre has been the iconic home of the championship since 1977 but that could change in a few years times. there's been speculation that the tournament could move around the globe when the city's current deal, to host it runs out in 2027. and while the president of the company that runs the world snooker tour wants it

to stay in sheffield, he can't make any guarantees. trust me, money has the edge every time. we live in the real world. if there's deals out there that are going to change people's lives and increase profitability, it's not really a choice to make. it's all about money. get used to it. and because the world is changing and i'm sorry, i'm not going to be a dinosaur and not change with the world. onto tennis and emma raducanu says she's �*mentally and emotionally exhausted' after crashing out of the madrid open. she was beaten in straight sets by the qualifier, maria lourdes carle, of argentina in the first round. raducanu the 2021, us open champion — is still struggling for consistency, after returning from injury. harriet dart also went out in straight sets. she'll be kicking herself after giving up 4—0 lead in her second set against spain's cristina bucsa. better news in the men's event though with jack draper safely through to the second round. he beat the australian thanasi

kokkinakis in three sets and will face hubert hurkacz next. here's carol with a look at the weather. good morning. good morning to you. the weather— good morning. good morning to you. the weather is looking fairly unsettled for the next few days. this morning it is a chilly start and _ this morning it is a chilly start and if— this morning it is a chilly start and if you've not been out there is frost _ and if you've not been out there is frost around — and if you've not been out there is frost around and we are looking up bright _ frost around and we are looking up bright spells with sunny intervals but also — bright spells with sunny intervals but also scattered showers. what is happening — but also scattered showers. what is happening is we have a weather front here which— happening is we have a weather front here which is sinking steadily south taking _ here which is sinking steadily south taking the — here which is sinking steadily south taking the showers with it and we have _ taking the showers with it and we have this — taking the showers with it and we have this one not too far away from south-west — have this one not too far away from south—west england so we have seen the trough _ south—west england so we have seen the trough of the weather front pushing — the trough of the weather front pushing slowly south through the course _ pushing slowly south through the course of — pushing slowly south through the course of the night and most of it has been — course of the night and most of it has been rain but on higher ground in scotland — has been rain but on higher ground in scotland and also the north of england — in scotland and also the north of england we have seen snow showers as

well. england we have seen snow showers as well as— england we have seen snow showers as well as we _ england we have seen snow showers as well. as we go through the day that will continue to push south and some of the _ will continue to push south and some of the showers this afternoon across london. _ of the showers this afternoon across london, west london, southern counties, — london, west london, southern counties, the english channel, it could _ counties, the english channel, it could be — counties, the english channel, it could be quite heavy and sharp. whereas — could be quite heavy and sharp. whereas for northern ireland after a bright _ whereas for northern ireland after a bright start with showers, they push south, _ bright start with showers, they push south, so _ bright start with showers, they push south, so we will see sunny intervals— south, so we will see sunny intervals develop across southern scotland — intervals develop across southern scotland and northern england and it will brighten up but showers continue _ will brighten up but showers continue across the north of scotland _ continue across the north of scotland. it won't be as windy as yesterday — scotland. it won't be as windy as yesterday but it will still be a cold — yesterday but it will still be a cold feeling day with temperatures between _ cold feeling day with temperatures between seven and 13 degrees north to south _ between seven and 13 degrees north to south. through the evening and overnight— to south. through the evening and overnight the showers make it down to the _ overnight the showers make it down to the south east and pull away, but not too _ to the south east and pull away, but not too far— to the south east and pull away, but not too far away from the south—west and we _ not too far away from the south—west and we will _ not too far away from the south—west and we will also have some showers in the _ and we will also have some showers in the north— and we will also have some showers in the north and north—east but a lot of— in the north and north—east but a lot of clear— in the north and north—east but a lot of clear skies and it will be a cold _ lot of clear skies and it will be a cold night — lot of clear skies and it will be a cold night tonight and anywhere from the midlands northwards we could see a touch— the midlands northwards we could see a touch of— the midlands northwards we could see a touch of frost and the temperatures you see on the chart

indicate _ temperatures you see on the chart indicate what you can expect in towns — indicate what you can expect in towns and _ indicate what you can expect in towns and cities, so a bit higher. tomorrow— towns and cities, so a bit higher. tomorrow this'll be the dregs of the front are _ tomorrow this'll be the dregs of the front are moving away and we have an area of— front are moving away and we have an area of low _ front are moving away and we have an area of low pressure coming up that there's— area of low pressure coming up that there's another one waiting in the wings— there's another one waiting in the wings in— there's another one waiting in the wings in the bay of biscay. so what will happen tomorrow is we start on a cold _ will happen tomorrow is we start on a cold note — will happen tomorrow is we start on a cold note and there will still be some _ a cold note and there will still be some showers, wintry on higher ground — some showers, wintry on higher ground across the north and east and with the _ ground across the north and east and with the low— ground across the north and east and with the low pressure not far away we will _ with the low pressure not far away we will see — with the low pressure not far away we will see more rain coming in across— we will see more rain coming in across southern areas. with sunshine in between _ across southern areas. with sunshine in between all of this we are looking _ in between all of this we are looking at temperatures ranging between eight and 12 degrees, so still a _ between eight and 12 degrees, so still a bit — between eight and 12 degrees, so still a bit below average for the time _ still a bit below average for the time of— still a bit below average for the time of year. as we head into saturday— time of year. as we head into saturday we are looking at cloud and rain across _ saturday we are looking at cloud and rain across southern england and wales— rain across southern england and wales pushing steadily north and ahead _ wales pushing steadily north and ahead of— wales pushing steadily north and ahead of that for scotland and northern ireland there will be some sunshine _ northern ireland there will be some sunshine and a fair bit of cloud at times— sunshine and a fair bit of cloud at times producing showers, especially in the _ times producing showers, especially in the north and west and some of those _ in the north and west and some of those on _ in the north and west and some of those on higher ground could be wintry— those on higher ground could be wintry with temperatures between ei-ht wintry with temperatures between eight and 14 degrees so the temperatures have climbed a little

bit but _ temperatures have climbed a little bit but as — temperatures have climbed a little bit but as the next area of low pressure — bit but as the next area of low pressure comes on saturday into sunday— pressure comes on saturday into sunday it — pressure comes on saturday into sunday it will bring in heavy and persistent — sunday it will bring in heavy and persistent rain across parts of england — persistent rain across parts of england and wales and out to the west of— england and wales and out to the west of something drier and brighter but there _ west of something drier and brighter but there will still be showers around — but there will still be showers around and temperatures between nine and i4— around and temperatures between nine and 14 degrees, so i wasn't kidding when _ and 14 degrees, so i wasn't kidding when i _ and 14 degrees, so i wasn't kidding when i said — and 14 degrees, so i wasn't kidding when i said it would remain unsettled for the next few days. i always _ unsettled for the next few days. i always believe what you will say. always — there's a week to go until local elections take place across england and wales — with council seats, police and crime commissioners and mayoralties all up for grabs. the west midlands mayoralty is one of the most hotly contested mayoralties are up for grabs in ten english regions. one of the most hotly contested is in the west midlands — and our deputy political editor, alex forsyth, has been to test the mood. it is revved up and well under way, the race to be the next mayor of the west midlands. what is happening here? this man visiting a motor bike manufacturer in solly hole has had the job the past seven years and

wants a third term, and against a backdrop of bleak polling for his party, he has distanced himself from the tory brand. you party, he has distanced himself from the tory brand-— the tory brand. you are not there to 'ust the tory brand. you are not there to just represent _ the tory brand. you are not there to just represent your _ the tory brand. you are not there to just represent your party, _ the tory brand. you are not there to just represent your party, you - the tory brand. you are not there to just represent your party, you are i just represent your party, you are there to represent your place first and foremost so i have batted for in london, winning investment, record investment from around the world and it is the job of the mayor to get out there and be the champion. if out there and be the champion. if you win the race, will you have won in spite of your party? i you win the race, will you have won in spite of your party?— in spite of your party? i will have one because _ in spite of your party? i will have one because of _ in spite of your party? i will have one because of what _ in spite of your party? i will have one because of what i _ in spite of your party? i will have one because of what i have - in spite of your party? i will have one because of what i have done| in spite of your party? i will have i one because of what i have done on the ground and there is a real message about delivery, delivery, delivery. message about delivery, delivery, delive . ._ ., message about delivery, delivery, delive . ., , delivery. here, the mayor is responsible _ delivery. here, the mayor is responsible for _ delivery. here, the mayor is responsible for things - delivery. here, the mayor is responsible for things like i responsible for things like transport, skills and housing, boosting economic growth. and the labour candidate reckons he has a plan to do just that. i labour candidate reckons he has a plan to do just that.— plan to do 'ust that. i know this lace plan to do 'ust that. i know this place and — plan to do just that. i know this place and i _ plan to do just that. i know this place and i know _ plan to do just that. i know this place and i know what - plan to do just that. i know this place and i know what is - plan to do just that. i know this place and i know what is wrong | plan to do just that. i know this - place and i know what is wrong and i know _ place and i know what is wrong and i know what _ place and i know what is wrong and i know what we need to fix and i set out a _ know what we need to fix and i set out a plan — know what we need to fix and i set out a plan for a fresh start to do exactly— out a plan for a fresh start to do exactly that. if out a plan for a fresh start to do exactly that-— out a plan for a fresh start to do exactly that. if you win, will it be ou that exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has _ exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one _ exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one or _ exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one or will - exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one or will it - exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one or will it be - exactly that. if you win, will it be you that has one or will it be the| you that has one or will it be the labour party doing well? i

you that has one or will it be the labour party doing well? i think, trul , it labour party doing well? i think, truly. it will— labour party doing well? i think, truly, it will be _ labour party doing well? i think, truly, it will be a _ labour party doing well? i think, truly, it will be a combination . labour party doing well? i think, truly, it will be a combination of| truly, it will be a combination of both _ truly, it will be a combination of both the — truly, it will be a combination of both. the labour party, nationally, have _ both. the labour party, nationally, have given — both. the labour party, nationally, have given me a great platform but the only— have given me a great platform but the only way we can win is if we can campaign— the only way we can win is if we can campaigna— the only way we can win is if we can campaigna hard the only way we can win is if we can campaign a hard on the ground and set out— campaign a hard on the ground and set outa— campaign a hard on the ground and set out a vision and policy priority that resonate with the people of the west midlands. in that resonate with the people of the west midlands.— west midlands. in this region, the candidates want _ west midlands. in this region, the candidates want to _ west midlands. in this region, the candidates want to be _ west midlands. in this region, the candidates want to be considered | west midlands. in this region, the i candidates want to be considered in their own rights, on their record or their own rights, on their record or their policies, and mayors are meant to be something of a figurehead to the region, but in all likelihood the region, but in all likelihood the results of this race will also be seen as an important measure of the national political mood, particularly if the conservatives are losing support to the labour party and the west midlands. and welcome to the centre for the new midlands mayoral hustings. and they are not the only one standing. the green party, the liberal democrats and reform are in the contest and there is also an independent candidate who wasn't at the debate we went to but who is campaigning hard on social media. the political

noise of the campaign has not escaped parents that this sing and sign group but are the promises being made in tune with things that matter here?— being made in tune with things that matter here? there is a real gap for thins for matter here? there is a real gap for things for children _ matter here? there is a real gap for things for children and _ matter here? there is a real gap for things for children and young - matter here? there is a real gap for| things for children and young people to do and teenagers that they used to do and teenagers that they used to be. i to do and teenagers that they used to be. ~ to do and teenagers that they used to be. ,, ., , to do and teenagers that they used tobe. _._�*, to be. i think about my baby's future and _ to be. i think about my baby's future and i'm _ to be. i think about my baby's future and i'm worried - to be. i think about my baby's future and i'm worried about i to be. i think about my baby's - future and i'm worried about climate change _ future and i'm worried about climate chance. ., ,, ., future and i'm worried about climate chance. ., ,, . . future and i'm worried about climate chance. . i. ., . ., change. have you heard much about this election — change. have you heard much about this election for _ change. have you heard much about this election for the _ change. have you heard much about this election for the mayor? - change. have you heard much about this election for the mayor? i - change. have you heard much about this election for the mayor? i feel. this election for the mayor? i feel like i this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't _ this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't know _ this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't know much _ this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't know much on - this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't know much on a - this election for the mayor? i feel like i don't know much on a personal level what— like i don't know much on a personal level what each— like i don't know much on a personal level what each of— like i don't know much on a personal level what each of the _ level what each of the candidates really _ level what each of the candidates really stands _ level what each of the candidates really stands for. _ level what each of the candidates really stands for. i— level what each of the candidates really stands for.— really stands for. i kind of would like more _ really stands for. i kind of would like more information, - really stands for. i kind of would like more information, less - really stands for. i kind of would l like more information, less about what the other parties are getting wrong and more about what actually, this is what we will do. ilrrui’ith wrong and more about what actually, this is what we will do.— this is what we will do. with a week to no, it this is what we will do. with a week to go. it seems _ this is what we will do. with a week to go, it seems it _ this is what we will do. with a week to go, it seems it is _ this is what we will do. with a week to go, it seems it is still— this is what we will do. with a week to go, it seems it is still all- this is what we will do. with a week to go, it seems it is still all to - to go, it seems it is still all to play for. this is the full list of candidates standing in the west midlands mayoral election. more information is available on the bbc news website and the app. and the west midlands mayoral debate will air tonight at 6.30pm

in the midlands — or you can catch up anywhere on bbc iplayer. it was a voyage like no other. a team of british sailors have made history by becoming the first all—female crew to win a round—the—world yacht race. the crew of the �*maiden' set sail from cowes in the isle of wight in september. after spending the last seven months at sea, they returned to the uk last week. our correspondent ellie price has their story. even tower bridge looked like it was saluting them before they left last summer. now after 153 days and 28,500 nautical miles, maiden and her 12 woman crew have come home. they only went and did it.

the first time an all women crew had won around the world yacht race. and the skipper, heather thomas, did it all by navigating the old fashioned way as race rules meant no modern technology was allowed. so you have a really in—depth understanding of the sun, the moon, the planets and the stars and the weather around you. so it's quite a pure way of sailing. the yacht took part in the parade of sail on saturday, so it was joined by a flotilla of other boats to cheer her on as she came into southampton. maiden knew the routine well. she enjoyed the same homecoming way back in 1990 when she finished another round the world race. that time, she was skippered by tracy edwards, the first time an all women crew had taken part in the challenge. people say, is it a bit weird not being on the boat? it's actually not because i look at this amazing crew and i look at them sailing my boat and it feels very right. so the whole thing is just been amazing. divided into four legs, the 14 yachts in this race stopped at cape town, auckland and punta del

esta before heading back to the isle of wight. and if that wasn't hard enough, maiden had just spent six years touring the world, spreading the word about education for girls. the duchess of york, sarah ferguson, has been involved in the maiden project for several decades, too. it doesn't matter. no race, creed, colour orany denomination, nojudgment. we are united to make a planet better for the youth of today. and that is maiden. the yacht arrived back safely more than a week ago. but because of the complicated handicap system and waiting for other competitors to return, the crew onlyjust found out they had won. so the celebrations won't be over any time soon. ellie price, bbc news. we intend to speak to the crew later on so we will hear first—hand about how difficult it was. you see the beautiful images, but it is tough work.

at 90 years of agejohn landau could have chosen a quiet gathering of family and friends for his milestone birthday — but instead he's decided to mark it with a skydive. it's not the first time the former lieutenant colonel from cheltenham has completed a parachutejump, as our reporter steve knibbs has been finding out. john has done over 100 jumps in his military career, but this one was special. it military career, but this one was secial. ., , , military career, but this one was secial. ., , _, special. it was very cold, i remember. _ special. it was very cold, i remember. you _ special. it was very cold, i remember. you were - special. it was very cold, i - remember. you were jumping from remember. you were “umping from 15,000 feet. h remember. you were “umping from 15,000 feet. special — remember. you were jumping from 15,000 feet. special to _ remember. you were jumping from 15,000 feet. special to be - remember. you were jumping from 15,000 feet. special to be doing i remember. you were jumping from 15,000 feet. special to be doing it| 15,000 feet. special to be doing it at the age of 90, but then again he also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at — also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at the _ also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at the time, _ also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at the time, i _ also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at the time, i bet - also did it when he was 18. somebody said to me at the time, i bet you - said to me at the time, i bet you won't do it when you are 90, and i said, of course i will, i never thought i would get this far, so i came to my 90s and i was stuck with it. in came to my 90s and i was stuck with it. , . . ., ., , came to my 90s and i was stuck with it. in perfect conditions, john “umed it. in perfect conditions, john jumped 15000 _ it. in perfect conditions, john jumped 15000 feet _ it. in perfect conditions, john jumped 15000 feet and - it. in perfect conditions, john jumped 15000 feet and took| it. in perfect conditions, john | jumped 15000 feet and took it it. in perfect conditions, john - jumped 15000 feet and took it all in his stride. i jumped 15000 feet and took it all in his stride. ~ ., ,., , jumped 15000 feet and took it all in his stride. ~ ., , , .,, his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've done _ his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've done it _ his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've done it so _ his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've done it so many - his stride. i know it sounds blase, but i've done it so many times - his stride. i know it sounds blase, l but i've done it so many times that my pulse rate doesn't go up,

particularly. at one point, as i left the aircraft i thought, i am 90, why am i doing this? and then i realised it was for good causes. the aood realised it was for good causes. the good causes — realised it was for good causes. the good causes are the rnli, who saved john's life when his boat sank off the isle of skye and his regimental charity and one close to his heart. john and his wife have both been treated for chance —— cancer at the cheltenham general hospital and wanted to raise money for their scanner appeal, so we took them to show hisjump to scanner appeal, so we took them to show his jump to the team. filth. scanner appeal, so we took them to show hisjump to the team.- show hisjump to the team. oh, my aoodness. show hisjump to the team. oh, my goodness. thanks _ show hisjump to the team. oh, my goodness. thanks to _ show hisjump to the team. oh, my goodness. thanks to fantastic - goodness. thanks to fantastic sopporters — goodness. thanks to fantastic supporters like _ goodness. thanks to fantastic supporters like john - goodness. thanks to fantastic supporters like john doing - goodness. thanks to fantastic - supporters like john doing amazing things— supporters like john doing amazing things like — supporters like john doing amazing things like this _ supporters like john doing amazing things like this we've _ supporters like john doing amazing things like this we've raised - supporters like john doing amazing things like this we've raised over. things like this we've raised over £3 things like this we've raised over 5 million — things like this we've raised over £3 million which _ things like this we've raised over £3 million which has _ things like this we've raised over £3 million which has funded - things like this we've raised over £3 million which has funded four| things like this we've raised over. £3 million which has funded four ct scanners— £3 million which has funded four ct scanners which— £3 million which has funded four ct scanners which is _ £3 million which has funded four ct scanners which is bringing - £3 million which has funded four ct scanners which is bringing the - scanners which is bringing the latest — scanners which is bringing the latest imaging _ scanners which is bringing the latest imaging technology - scanners which is bringing the latest imaging technology to i latest imaging technology to gloucestershire. _ latest imaging technology to gloucestershire.— latest imaging technology to gloucestershire. . , ., gloucestershire. that is really kind of ou. gloucestershire. that is really kind of you- even _ gloucestershire. that is really kind of you- even i _ gloucestershire. that is really kind of you. even i as _ gloucestershire. that is really kind of you. even i as his _ gloucestershire. that is really kind of you. even i as his wife - gloucestershire. that is really kind of you. even i as his wife think- of you. even i as his wife think it's amazing — of you. even i as his wife think it's amazing but _ of you. even i as his wife think it's amazing but he _ of you. even i as his wife think it's amazing but he is - of you. even i as his wife think it's amazing but he is an - of you. even i as his wife think. it's amazing but he is an amazing bloke _ it's amazing but he is an amazing bloke he's— it's amazing but he is an amazing bloke. he's incredibly fit and he doesn't — bloke. he's incredibly fit and he doesn't do _ bloke. he's incredibly fit and he doesn't do exercises anywhere, he

'ust doesn't do exercises anywhere, he just walks— doesn't do exercises anywhere, he just walks terribly fast and i have to run _ just walks terribly fast and i have to run to — just walks terribly fast and i have to run to keep up. so, just walks terribly fast and i have to run to keep up.— just walks terribly fast and i have to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump _ to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump on — to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump on your— to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump on your 80th - to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump on your 80th and - to run to keep up. so, john, you did a charityjump on your 80th and you have done one on your 90th, so the big question, will you do another jump big question, will you do another jump on your centenary? i big question, will you do another jump on your centenary? i hardly dare say yes. _ jump on your centenary? i hardly dare say yes, but _ jump on your centenary? i hardly dare say yes, but i _ jump on your centenary? i hardly dare say yes, but i live _ jump on your centenary? i hardly dare say yes, but i live that - jump on your centenary? i hardly | dare say yes, but i live that long, i would consider it, i think. you heard it here _ i would consider it, i think. you heard it here first. _ i would consider it, i think. you heard it here first. john's grandson also jumped with heard it here first. john's grandson alsojumped with him at heard it here first. john's grandson also jumped with him at the weekend, also jumped with him at the weekend, a first for him but still a long way for him to go to catch up with his grandfather's record. i know it sounds wrong, but i do not believe he is 90. honestly, skydiving is clearly good for you in the ageing process. time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. it's a week to go until polling day for the mayoral election. to help you make up your mind, the four main candidates went head to head in a bbc debate last night, taking on the key issues including policing, crime, and housing. but it was over the issue of pay—per—mile, where the candidates clashed. i have instructed the commissioner to make sure any work is stopped. the tory candidate tries to scare londoners in relation to sameness is what happened. so i £21 million has been spent already and know that. nobody trusts you any more. it been spent already and know that. nobody trusts you any more. it was brou . ht in nobody trusts you any more. it was brought in with _ nobody trusts you any more. it was brought in with about _ months' notice that made it harder for people to adapt and it's

important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness and what i've been saying is i'd have a conversation with londoners about the charging model they want. i think the families you talk about would benefit from a pay per mile system. you can watch the debate — a mayorfor london — in full, tonight on bbc1 at 8 o'clock. there will be more strike action on london underground this friday and into saturday morning. customer service managers, who are members of the tssa union, will walk out in a dispute over terms and conditions. tfl said it's disappointed but doesn't expect the action to cause "significant disruption". tower bridge has had its windows cleaned, and it's quite the effort. specialist window cleaners abseiled from the tower�*s twin high—level walkways to clean the underside of their glass floors. it's the first time the underside of the floors has been cleaned since the glass was installed a decade ago. the work was carried out in the early hours of wednesday morning, during the bridge's latest overnight closures for maintenance. we've done it on smaller bridges but nothing quite

of this stature — nor of this prestige as well. so it's a huge honour, a huge privilege as well. let's take a look at the tubes now. now, on to the weather with kate kinsella. hello there. it is a cold start this morning. we start the day with temperatures in low single figures. reasonably dry, though, bright too, but the cloud is going to start to move in. and with that some showers later on today, those showers could become a little more prolonged, quite heavy towards the evening. temperatures today reaching 13 celsius. the wind coming from the west. so it's not feeling quite so cold as it has for the last few days. now, those showers will fade overnight, becoming largely dry. still a fair amount of cloud, but some clearer spells, especially further north. temperatures there dropping to three celsius. now, low pressure is in charge as we head into friday, but it is looking largely dry. should get some brighter spells, some sunny spells, variable amounts of cloud through tomorrow, the chance of a shower, temperatures around 12 celsius. now, as we head into the weekend, again, that low pressure stays with us. we'll see some spells of rain for a time. but the temperature, it does start to improve just a little 14 celsius

through the weekend, getting a little warmer into next week. that's it. head to our website to find out about the london school trialling an 11—hour day for some pupils. we're back in half an hour. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today... the senior executive at the centre of the post office scandal, criticised for giving misleading evidence in court, faces questions at the post office inquiry today. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after three people were injured in a school stabbing in ammanford, in wales. labour promises to overhaul the rail system if it wins the next election — including nationalising the train network within five years of coming to power. a major study has put england

at the top of a global chart for alcohol use among school children. a massive blow to liverpool's premier league title hopes is inflicted by neighbours everton, who pull off a shock win in the merseyside derby, and it pretty much ensures they're staying up. good morning. a chilly start to the day with— good morning. a chilly start to the day with their local frost. we are looking _ day with their local frost. we are looking at — day with their local frost. we are looking at bright spells or sunny intervals— looking at bright spells or sunny intervals also scattered showers. the wind — intervals also scattered showers. the wind is — intervals also scattered showers. the wind is lighter than yesterday and the _ the wind is lighter than yesterday and the weather for the next few days remains unsettled. all of the details _ days remains unsettled. all of the details shortly. it's thursday, the 25th of april. our main story. a former post office executive — who's described as knowing more about the faulty horizon it system than anyone else — is giving evidence at the inquiry into the scandal later today. angela van den bogerd was the company's most important witness in the legal action taken by sub—postmaster alan bates — and was heavily criticised by the judge for giving misleading evidence in court.

our business correspondent, emma simpson, has the details. angela is our head of network services. she was paula vennells' right hand woman — one of the big characters in the drama at the centre of so many ruined lives. we're all so sorry for your loss. bogerd was personally involved in many cases. desperate — he was really desperate. and overseeing complaints from sub—postmasters. she was also involved in the mediation scheme, supposed to help them. angela van den bogerd, head of partnerships. here she is sitting next to ceo paula vennells before mps when they were told the post office had found no evidence of any miscarriages ofjustice. what we've wanted to do and been very committed to doing is doing a thorough investigation on each of the issues raised by each of the applications. we've not dragged our feet. but this was all part of the alleged cover up. i've managed to find some letters. later that year, parmod kalia got

a letter from angela. he was wrongly convicted of stealing from his post office in 2001 and sent to prison. he wrote in after seeing a bbc panorama, asking the post office to look again at his case. horizon does not have functionality that allows post office or fujitsu to edit or delete the transactions recorded by branches. well... that wasn't correct. we know it's not correct. she finishes by saying, "if you think you've been wrongly convicted, get a solicitor." when i saw that, i literally did collapse on the floor, knowing there's no way i can get a solicitor and sue them in court. what has the post office done to you, parmod? they've broken me, broken me. 22—odd years. lost. never going to get that time back with the family — with work or anything. how important is it for you to see

her answer questions now? i need to know, has she finally understood and accepted where she was wrong and maybe put her hands up and say, "yeah, sorry." that would mean a lot to us. it's a big moment for the inquiry, too. she's a person whose finger was in lots of pies. she made a lot of big decisions. so she's got a lot to answer for. angela van den bogerd has already said she would cooperate fully and willingly with the inquiry. you'll be hard pushed to find an empty seat in this room today. emma simpson, bbc news. charlie, yesterday we heard of an incident at a school, a stabbing. details were coming out very slowly. more today. let's bring you right up

to date on that. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a stabbing at a school in south—west wales. two teachers and a pupil were taken to hospital with non—life—threatening injuries. our wales correspondent, tomos morgan, is in ammanford this morning. what more do we know about those injured and the sequence of events? let me run through the sequence of events first really with you, if i may. it happened around 11:15am, 11:20am yesterday. an incident took here at ysgol dyffryn aman in ammanford. straightaway after the incident, code red was issued over the tannoy. the school essentially went into lockdown, pupils were locked in their classrooms. safety reasons. they were there for four hours. then, parents of those

children came here, waited outside. worried parents, shop at the rumours going around and what had happened inside. —— shock. two teachers and one people were injured. they were taken to hospital and we are told they had non—life—threatening conditions. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of murder. overwhelmingly today, still a sense of shock at how and why this has happened in the small, former mining town in south—west wales. as you can see behind me there is still a significant police presence here is the school remains close as they continue investigating inside for any further evidence. we understand they had already recovered a knife. a little bit more detail as well. the bbc understands one teacher injured was the owner nis, the welsh drama teacher and head of year 7. a

statement was issued last night in which pupils and staff were thanked for their calm and measured response to the event yesterday. thoughts are with the families of everyone affected. the school will be here to help everyone involved at the school after what happened yesterday. thank ou ve after what happened yesterday. thank you very much- _ ukraine has begun using long—range ballistic missiles that were secretly provided by the us against invading russian forces. president biden personally approved the shipment after russia began using similar weapons it had secured from north korea. the missiles are part of a $1 billion aid package for ukraine that was agreed in march. spain's prime minister says he's stepping back from public duties while he considers whether to resign over corruption allegations against his wife. pedro sanchez made the announcement after a court launched an inquiry into begona gomez in response to a complaint raised by an anti—corruption group with links to the far right. she has not been charged. the uk's first memorial for lgbt armed forces

personnel is set to be built at the national arboretum in staffordshire. the government has given the charity, fighting with pride, £350,000 to construct a memorial at the 150—acre site. it was illegal to be gay in the british military until 2000. ofsted's single word judgments are set to remain in place despite campaigners asking for them to be scrapped following the suicide of a primary school headteacher. ruth perry died after her school in reading was downgraded from "outstanding" to "inadequate". our education editor, branwenjeffreys, reports. an inspection at this small primary started this debate. the single word judgment, "inadequate", haunted the head teacher. ruth perry took her own life, knowing the school would be downgraded. a coroner found the inspection had contributed.

ruth's sisterjulia waters has campaigned for single word judgments to go. mps agreed after an inquiry, but the government says the system should stay. i'm deeply upset — more than a little bit angry that after all that time, all that commitment, all that talking, all that apparent listening, they're not going to act. they are not going to do the things that they know my family and so many others need and want to change. headteachers' unions said the government was failing to listen and concerns remained about the system. if we have another tragedy that will sit firmly on the shoulders of ministers, who are failing to grapple with this problem right now. we have calls from members regularly on our helpline in crisis because of inspection, and we know we are so very close to that happening again. it's not scaremongering. we've seen it happen once, we cannot afford to see it happen again. the new head of ofsted says he wants to consult widely.

the labour party have already said they would scrap the one word judgment. branwen jeffreys, bbc news. venice has become the first city in the world to charge tourists coming on day trips. the five euro fee is part of a wider pilot to manage the number of visitors. last summer, unesco said venice should be added to the list of world heritage sites in danger, to help preserve it for the future. one of the most well—known landmarks in paris — the moulin rouge nightclub — but it's been stripped of its distinctive windmill blades. the famous cabaret has been entertaining visitors in the city for more than 120 years — but as you can see — this morning images have emerged of the blades lying in the street. it is known as the birthplace of

the modern dance form, the can—can. we will find out more as to what happened there. labour says it plans to renationalise the uk's railways within five years if it wins the next general election. under the proposals, rail services would become the responsibility of a new publicly owned body when the contracts that allow private operators to run them expire. the party is labelling the plans "the biggest overhaul of our railways in a generation". we're joined by the shadow transport secretary, louise haigh. very good morning to you. thank you for your time this morning. explain the plan to us. did for your time this morning. explain the plan to us— the plan to us. did morning, charlie. we _ the plan to us. did morning, charlie. we are _ the plan to us. did morning, charlie. we are set - the plan to us. did morning, charlie. we are set to - the plan to us. did morning, | charlie. we are set to deliver the plan to us. did morning, - charlie. we are set to deliver the biggest overhaul of railways in a generation. we know the current model is broken. anyone false to rely on the train in the last few years with no that instinctively feels that there were record delays, record cancellations and routine overcrowding. the system is not set “p overcrowding. the system is not set up in a way that works for

passengers. it is confused, fragmented and means dozens of operators compete against each other rather than working in the interests of the passengers. things like changes to timetables, changes to fares and tickets can take years to drive through the network. when things like delays go wrong, lawyers fight about how to fix the mistake. that is why these structural reforms will bring the private operators into public ownership as contracts expire. the taxpayer will not have to pay a penny in compensation and we will set up a new body, great british railways, which will be an arms length from whitehall. there will be no interfering from ministers and civil servants. it will be running independently by experts, single—mindedly delivering for the passenger. we think it will be the first time in its history that british railways will have the

passengers at heart. is that british railways will have the passengers at heart.— passengers at heart. is this completely _ passengers at heart. is this completely cost _ passengers at heart. is this completely cost free? - passengers at heart. is this completely cost free? the | passengers at heart. is this _ completely cost free? the government alread has completely cost free? the government already has plans _ completely cost free? the government already has plans to _ completely cost free? the government already has plans to reform _ completely cost free? the government already has plans to reform and - completely cost free? the government already has plans to reform and set - already has plans to reform and set “p already has plans to reform and set up their own version of great british railways. the establishment of the new body is covered by the baseline spending plans we hope to inherit is that these reforms will deliver significant savings for the taxpayer. a lot of viewers will be really surprised to learn even 30 years after privatisation the taxpayer is still cropping up almost every penny spent on our railways. we subsidise... we are going to interact here. the question was, is it cost free? is it cost free?- it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine- _ it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine. we _ it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine. we have _ it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine. we have had - it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine. we have had a - it cost free? is it cost free? yes. that is fine. we have had a yes | it cost free? is it cost free? yes. | that is fine. we have had a yes to doubtful that there are no costs to this attached for the taxpayer, none. , ., , ., none. there is no compensation re . uired none. there is no compensation required for— none. there is no compensation required for the _ none. there is no compensation

required for the operators. - none. there is no compensation required for the operators. the | required for the operators. the government had already set aside funding to set up great british railways, which we will take to set our own body up. it will deliver significant savings to the taxpayer because the current system is incredibly inefficient and wasteful. quite frankly, the taxpayer cannot continue with the current broken model. �* ., , . , model. 0k. basics, undue nationalisation _ model. 0k. basics, undue nationalisation plan, - model. 0k. basics, undue nationalisation plan, will. model. 0k. basics, undue- nationalisation plan, will more trains run on time? —— and at your nationalisation plan. the trains run on time? -- and at your nationalisation plan.— trains run on time? -- and at your nationalisation plan. the system is broken. nationalisation plan. the system is broken- the _ nationalisation plan. the system is broken. the whole _ nationalisation plan. the system is broken. the whole purpose - nationalisation plan. the system is broken. the whole purpose of- nationalisation plan. the system is broken. the whole purpose of the l broken. the whole purpose of the reforms are to have fewer delays and feel cancellations. a large part of the reason they happen is network rail is competing against the train operators. you do not have to take my word for it. grant shapps, the previous transport secretary, is quoted as saying one of the reasons privatisation has never been accepted on britain's railways is

that failings are too obvious and the fragmentation of the system means it is very difficult to run trains on time.— means it is very difficult to run trains on time. ~ ., ., , trains on time. will more trains run on time? that _ trains on time. will more trains run on time? that is _ trains on time. will more trains run on time? that is a _ trains on time. will more trains run on time? that is a yes _ trains on time. will more trains run on time? that is a yes or— trains on time. will more trains run on time? that is a yes or no - trains on time. will more trains run | on time? that is a yes or no answer, really. on time? that is a yes or no answer, reall . , on time? that is a yes or no answer, really-- more — on time? that is a yes or no answer, really. yes. more trains will run on time. really. yes. more trains will run on time- will— really. yes. more trains will run on time. will trains _ really. yes. more trains will run on time. will trains be _ really. jazz more trains will run on time. will trains be better value for money? will prices come down? today i cannot guarantee we will lower fares but we will simplify them. passengers had to contend with a dizzying array of different types of fares and ticket structures. what we are saying is we will have an ambition for a best bag guarantee. just as when people travel in london and a tap in and out of the system, they have the confidence they are getting the lowest possible fare for thatjourney. at the moment they do not have confidence in the train system because it is so complex and

people often feel they are being fleeced. we want to make sure people know they are always getting at best value for theirjourney. know they are always getting at best value for their journey. the ambition is to make fares more affordable and accessible. today i cannot set out that fans were lower and which as they will be. this cannot set out that fans were lower and which as they will be. abs! and which as they will be. as i understand — and which as they will be. as i understand it, _ and which as they will be. as i understand it, if _ and which as they will be. as i understand it, if you - and which as they will be. as i understand it, if you take one of these lines, say avanti west coast, which runs trains between london and manchester, their contract runs beyond the five year period you are talking about, is that right? thea;r talking about, is that right? they were absolutely _ talking about, is that right? tt9: were absolutely inexplicably talking about, is that right? tt9 were absolutely inexplicably given talking about, is that right? tt91 were absolutely inexplicably given a very long extension. tt were absolutely inexplicably given a very long extension. if t were absolutely inexplicably given a very long extension.— very long extension. if i can finish the question? _ very long extension. if i can finish the question? in _ very long extension. if i can finish the question? in that _ very long extension. if i can finish the question? in that case, - very long extension. if i can finish the question? in that case, if- the question? in that case, if someone regularly uses that line, for example, in the next five years, will nothing change in connection with that journey? will nothing change in connection with thatjourney? they still have the contract beyond the five years which would be the labour government.—

which would be the labour covernment. ::, ::, government. their core contract ex - ires government. their core contract expires within _ government. their core contract expires within what _ government. their core contract expires within what we - government. their core contract expires within what we would i government. their core contract - expires within what we would expect to be the first term of a labour government. every single one of the operators that remains on the core network is up within the first term of a labour government. that is why we have been very clear this could be completed within the first five years. be completed within the first five ears. :, :, ::, .: , years. none of the contracts run be ond years. none of the contracts run beyond that _ years. none of the contracts run beyond that first _ years. none of the contracts run beyond that first five _ years. none of the contracts run beyond that first five years? - years. none of the contracts run| beyond that first five years? core terms, what does that mean? the secretary of _ terms, what does that mean? tt9 secretary of state can give notice once the core term has expired without compensation from the taxpayer. that is why we have been very clear it can be achieved within the five years. very clear it can be achieved within the five years-— very clear it can be achieved within the five years. thank you very much for our the five years. thank you very much for your time. _ the five years. thank you very much for your time, speaking _ the five years. thank you very much for your time, speaking about - for your time, speaking about labour's pledge to renationalise the railways. let's talk to carol. what is that behind you? t let's talk to carol. what is that behind you?— let's talk to carol. what is that behind you? let's talk to carol. what is that behind ou? , :, ,, :, :, behind you? i should know that? it is the forth —

behind you? i should know that? it is the forth rail— behind you? i should know that? it is the forth rail bridge. _ behind you? i should know that? it is the forth rail bridge. the - is the forth rail bridge. the weather cloudier than yesterday. from one of our weather watchers up very early. we are looking at a cold start to the day. in the highlands that only 1 start to the day. in the highlands that only! degrees at start to the day. in the highlands that only 1 degrees at the start to the day. in the highlands that only! degrees at the moment. widely, five, six. another day to wrap up warm. a cold start and a cold day generally. a fair bit of cloud across southern wales and england. as we move north into scotland, we are looking at a few showers, some of them wintry on the higher ground. chavez in northern england on the high ground. —— showers. you can also see brightness. some of us will see sunshine to start with. generally cloudy in the south. through the day, the clouds continue to sink south. some of those will be heavy. east wales, west london and towards the south coast and the channel

islands. not as windy as yesterday. it will brighten up in northern ireland, the same for northern england. temperatures seven to 13. this evening and overnight, eventually the showers will push away from the far south—east. not too far away from the south west and the channel islands. some of the showers on higher ground will be wintry. a cold night with a widespread frost anywhere from the midlands and north woods, particularly if you live somewhere sheltered. tomorrow, showers across southern areas. as we push further north, for the rest of the uk, and mix of bright spells, sunny skies and showers with temperatures eight to 13. beyond this, it remains unsettled. to 13. beyond this, it remains unsettled-— to 13. beyond this, it remains unsettled. :, :, , , to 13. beyond this, it remains unsettled. :, :, , :, , , unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine. unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine- there _ unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine. there will _ unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine. there will be _ unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine. there will be sunshine - unsettled. come on, promise us some sunshine. there will be sunshine in . sunshine. there will be sunshine in

between. sunshine. there will be sunshine in between- all _ sunshine. there will be sunshine in between. all right. _ sunshine. there will be sunshine in between. all right. do _ sunshine. there will be sunshine in between. all right. do not - sunshine. there will be sunshine in between. all right. do not too - sunshine. there will be sunshine in i between. all right. do not too much. —— do not expect too much. martin hibbert�*s life was changed forever in may 2017 when he was left paralysed from the waist down at the manchester arena bombing. after embarking on a long and gruelling road to recovery, he was determined to make a difference, becoming a leading campaigner both for victims of the attack and those with spinal—cord injuries. in 2022, he scaled kilimanjaro in a wheelchair. that achievement, plus his life before and after the bombing, is detailed in a new book. before we speak to him, here's a reminder of how he took on africa's tallest mountain. i wanted something that people looked and thought, "he's doing what?" it's hard enough for somebody with legs to do it. and here's a guy doing

it in a wheelchair. it is a risk. i am putting my life on the line doing it. it's just such a relief to get there and know that we've done it. just so proud. cheering. martinjoins us now. morning. how are you doing? really well, thank — morning. how are you doing? really well, thank you. _ morning. how are you doing? really well, thank you. when _ morning. how are you doing? really well, thank you. when you - morning. how are you doing? really well, thank you. when you sat - morning. how are you doing? really well, thank you. when you sat on i morning. how are you doing? t9—ii well, thank you. when you sat on a safer and the person you said was, it is a very proud day. why is that?

my it is a very proud day. why is that? my life is in a book, released today. obviously, everyone knows i lost my mum a couple of years ago. she read a couple of books every week. she would be really proud her son has written a book about my life. actually, it is a celebration of my mum. she has made me the man sitting before you today. it is a celebration about my mum. lovely ictures. celebration about my mum. lovely pictures- i — celebration about my mum. lovely pictures- i sent— celebration about my mum. lovely pictures. i sent them _ celebration about my mum. lovely pictures. i sent them in. _ celebration about my mum. lovely pictures. i sent them in. she i celebration about my mum. lovely pictures. i sent them in. she is i celebration about my mum. lovely pictures. i sent them in. she is my life. i pictures. i sent them in. she is my life- i miss— pictures. i sent them in. she is my life. i miss her, _ pictures. i sent them in. she is my life. i miss her, very, _ pictures. i sent them in. she is my life. i miss her, very, very- pictures. i sent them in. she is my life. i miss her, very, very much. i life. i miss her, very, very much. times like this and when i climbed kilimanjaro, it really, really hurts. i know she will be watching and will be very proud today. haifa and will be very proud today. how are ou and will be very proud today. how are you doing? — and will be very proud today. how are you doing? good. _ and will be very proud today. how are you doing? good. i _ and will be very proud today. how are you doing? good. i have i and will be very proud today. how are you doing? good. i have beenj and will be very proud today. how. are you doing? good. i have been in hosital. are you doing? good. i have been in hospital. people _ are you doing? good. i have been in hospital. people will— are you doing? good. i have been in hospital. people will know _ are you doing? good. i have been in hospital. people will know reading i are you doing? good. i have been in hospital. people will know reading a book that urinary tract infections

and sepsis have been my achilles' heel and sepsis have been my achilles' heel. i came out a week on sunday. i am looking after myself. it is a busy day today. other than that, everything is good. you busy day today. other than that, everything is good.— busy day today. other than that, everything is good. you are very, almost naked, _ everything is good. you are very, almost naked, how _ everything is good. you are very, almost naked, how raw, - everything is good. you are very, almost naked, how raw, clear i everything is good. you are very, | almost naked, how raw, clear you everything is good. you are very, i almost naked, how raw, clear you are about everything involved with the spinal cord injury, which i really appreciated, actually. it is really easy to have it like a fairy tale, you have recovered. the hard work you have recovered. the hard work you have recovered. the hard work you have put in and a climb kilimanjaro, what your friends you have put in and a climb kilimanjaro, what yourfriends have done to help you physically function. i am talking about all the physicalfunctions. you are really open about it in this book. did you make a conscious decision to do that? , : make a conscious decision to do that? , 9 :. :, �* �* that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast. _ that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast. i— that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast, i always _ that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast, i always look- that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast, i always look fit i that? yes. when i came on bbc breakfast, i always look fit and | breakfast, i always look fit and well. when i am on television, radio, the news, iam

well. when i am on television, radio, the news, i am always celebrating something. people didn't get to see when i was in hospital, when literally i cannot do anything. i am at the mercy of the brilliant nhs staff. if i had bowel and bladder accidents. nhs staff. if i had bowel and bladderaccidents. i nhs staff. if i had bowel and bladder accidents. i said, nhs staff. if i had bowel and bladderaccidents. isaid, if nhs staff. if i had bowel and bladder accidents. i said, if i'm going to write this book, it has to be an honest account of my life. warts and all. t be an honest account of my life. warts and all.— warts and all. i say some very personal— warts and all. i say some very personal things. _ warts and all. i say some very personal things. my _ warts and all. i say some very l personal things. my relationship with my wife. all laid bare. that is what i wanted. i wanted people to read it and go, do you know what? hats off to him. i have achieved a lot since my spinal cord injury. another big thing. people being told they will never walk again. a spinal cord injury is life changing, not life ending. that was really important and hopefully that came across in the book. he important and hopefully that came across in the book.— across in the book. he went into

treat across in the book. he went into great detail _ across in the book. he went into great detail and _ across in the book. he went into great detail and i _ across in the book. he went into great detail and i will— across in the book. he went into great detail and i will not - across in the book. he went into great detail and i will not ask i across in the book. he went into | great detail and i will not ask you to do it now, the incident itself, that moment in time, the aftermath and the agony of that. deserves to be read properly. you detail it in a way you have not before. one thing that interests me is how you look back on it and look back on it without anger. i do not know where that kicked in or how it kicked in. that is a quality that you appear to have and you have got it from somewhere.— have and you have got it from somewhere. :, :, , :, : somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers — somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers again _ somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers again came _ somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers again came to _ somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers again came to me i somewhere. that was one thing. when the publishers again came to me to i the publishers again came to me to write the book, i think people thought this was something that happened from the bomb, it is not. i have always been stubborn, very determined. i have always been very successful in whatever i have done. hopefully that comes across a e—book, sent me when i was younger. that question is asked a lot. the only way i can answer it but what

happened to me that night, i accepted death, i did not think i was coming out. i said goodbye to everybody in my head. i said to chris, the security guard, looking after me, i do not think i will make it so please tell my wife, gabby, i love her. to accept that and make peace with that and wake up in intensive care couple of weeks later, even though i am told i am paralysed i will never walk again, from what i saw that night and how i was and obviously seeing eve in the state she was, to know we were both alive, really it was like, i had to live every day to the full and that is what i had done. the stubbornness, determination, pig—headedness, that has been there from birth. that pig-headedness, that has been there from birth. :, :, , , from birth. that has been evident. didn't ou from birth. that has been evident. didn't you refuse _ from birth. that has been evident. didn't you refuse to _ from birth. that has been evident. didn't you refuse to eat? - from birth. that has been evident. didn't you refuse to eat? when i from birth. that has been evident. i didn't you refuse to eat? when danny was born, didn't you refuse to eat? when danny was born. my — didn't you refuse to eat? when danny

was born, my brother... _ didn't you refuse to eat? when danny was born, my brother... what - didn't you refuse to eat? when danny was born, my brother... what a i didn't you refuse to eat? when danny was born, my brother... what a prat! | was born, my brother... what a prat! i know. was born, my brother... what a prat! i know- when — was born, my brother... what a prat! i know- when i _ was born, my brother... what a prat! i know. when i am _ was born, my brother... what a prat! i know. when i am annoyed - was born, my brother... what a prat! i know. when i am annoyed about i i know. when i am annoyed about something, i stop eating. —— what a brat. something, i stop eating. -- what a brat. 9 9. something, i stop eating. -- what a brat. 9 :, , :, :, :, something, i stop eating. -- what a brat. 9 :, :, :, :, :, brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme- _ brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme. one _ brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme. one thing - brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme. one thing i - brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme. one thing i am i brat. we have spoken to you a lot on this programme. one thing i am stillj this programme. one thing i am still learning, things like a hotel. i am talking about disability access now. i didn't know, even in a 5—star hotel, if you say you have got disability friendly room or able room, all it means is your wheelchairjust has to get through the door. at one point, you are in a hotel as part of one of your campaigns, there was a bath in there. it campaigns, there was a bath in there. 9. . . . campaigns, there was a bath in there. :, , , , :, there. it happens all the time. it is one thing _ there. it happens all the time. it is one thing i— there. it happens all the time. it is one thing i am _ there. it happens all the time. it is one thing i am really - there. it happens all the time. it is one thing i am really keen i there. it happens all the time. it is one thing i am really keen on | is one thing i am really keen on changing. it happened last year, where i was put in an accessibility

room. i couldn't get through the front door. in room. i couldn't get through the front door-— room. i couldn't get through the front door. :, : :, :, front door. in a wheelchair? how can the 'usti front door. in a wheelchair? how can they justify it — front door. in a wheelchair? how can they justify it being _ front door. in a wheelchair? how can theyjustify it being an _ theyjustify it being an accessibility room? it theyjustify it being an accessibility room? theyjustify it being an accessibili room? . 9, accessibility room? it is the one area that needs _ accessibility room? it is the one area that needs to _ accessibility room? it is the one area that needs to block - accessibility room? it is the one area that needs to block its i accessibility room? it is the one. area that needs to block its ideas up. it is not the spinal cord injury or my wheelchair which makes me feel disabled, it is those environments. that is the one thing i want to change and help to change. how do we improve, how do we make disabled people feel comfortable and accepted in society? retail and hospitality have got to do better. t will in society? retail and hospitality have got to do better.— have got to do better. i will tell ou what have got to do better. i will tell you what is _ have got to do better. i will tell you what is good. _ have got to do better. i will tell you what is good. i _ have got to do better. i will tell you what is good. i got - have got to do better. i will tell you what is good. i got to i have got to do better. i will tell you what is good. i got to see i have got to do better. i will tellj you what is good. i got to see a have got to do better. i will tell. you what is good. i got to see a lot of you before. i always enjoyed your company on the sofa. i have seen now that a lot of that comes from. tt is that a lot of that comes from. it is my mum. —

that a lot of that comes from. it is my mum. growing _ that a lot of that comes from. tt 3 my mum, growing up in bolton. not having the things i enjoy now. it is having people around me who keep me grounded, do not let me get a big head. my mum always used to say to me can never forget you are martyn hibbitt from bolton. that is in my head. 9. ~ hibbitt from bolton. that is in my head. :, ,, ,~. hibbitt from bolton. that is in my head. :, ,, : hibbitt from bolton. that is in my head. :, : :, :, head. thank you so much for 'oining us. his head. thank you so much for 'oining nrswhore— head. thank you so much for 'oining us. his whole life i head. thank you so much for 'oining us. his whole life is i head. thank you so much forjoining us. his whole life is documented i us. his whole life is documented right from day one, isn't it? martin's book, 'top of the world — surviving the manchester bombing to scale kilimanjaro in a wheelchair�* is out now. hello, good morning from bbc london. it's a week to go until polling day for the mayoral election. to help you make up your mind, the four main candidates went head to head in a bbc debate last night taking on the key issues including policing, crime, and housing. but it was over the issue of 'pay—per—mile' where the candidates clashed.

i have instructed the commissioner to make sure any work under boris is stopped. when the tory candidate tries to scare londoners in relation to saying what happened. so i £21 million has been spent already and know that. nobody trusts you any more. . it was brought in with about ninel months' notice that made it harder for people to adapt and it's _ important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally. this is all about fairness and what i've been saying is i'd have a conversation with londoners about the charging model they want. i think the families you talk about would benefit from a pay per mile system. you can watch the debate — 'a mayor for london' in full, tonight on bbc1 at 8 o'clock. the duke of edinburgh has led the annual anzac day memorial at a dawn service at hyde park corner. it marks australia and new zealand's war—dead.

there'll be another ceremony later at the cenotaph and a service of commemoration at westminster abbey. tower bridge has had its windows cleaned — and it's quite the effort. specialist window cleaners abseiled from the tower�*s twin high—level walkways to clean the underside of their glass floors. it's the first time the underside of the floors has been cleaned since the glass was installed a decade ago, the work was carried out in the early hours of wednesday morning, during the bridge's latest overnight closures for maintenance. we've done it on smaller bridges but not quite of this stature, nor of this procedure as well. so it's a huge honour. on smaller bridges, but nothing quite of this stature nor of this prestige as well. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. it is a cold start this morning. we start the day with temperatures in low single figures. reasonably dry, though bright too, but the cloud is going to start to move in.

and with that some showers later on today, those showers could become a little more prolonged, quite heavy towards the evening. temperatures today reaching 13 celsius. the wind coming from the west. so it's not feeling quite so cold as it has for the last few days. now, those showers will fade overnight, becoming largely dry. still a fair amount of cloud, but some clearer spells, especially further north. temperatures there dropping to three celsius. now, low pressure is in charge as we head into friday, but it is looking largely dry. we should get some brighter spells, some sunny spells, variable amounts of cloud through tomorrow, the chance of a shower, temperatures around 12 celsius. now, as we head into the weekend, again, that low pressure stays with us. we'll see some spells of rain for a time. but the temperature, it does start to improve just a little. 14 celsius through the weekend, getting a little warmer into next week. that's it — head to our website to find out about the london school trialling an 11 hour day for some pupils. we're back in half an hour. bye for now. hello, this is breakfast with

charlie stayt and naga munchetty. girls in the uk are drinking, smoking and vaping more than boys. that's according to a new report commissioned by the world health organisation. the study, which is one of the largest of its kind, also said england is "top of the charts" globally for child alcohol use. the report examined data from 280,000 children between the ages of 11 and 15 from 44 countries and showed that, by the age of 13, 57 percent of girls in england had drunk alcohol, compared to half of boys. the report also found girls are more likely to smoke. more than a quarter of 15—year—old girls in england have smoked a cigarette in their lifetimes, compared to just 16 percent of boys. and it says 2 out of 5 girls in england and scotland have vaped by the age of 15, which is higher than countries like france, germany and spain. the study also claimed that children in scotland and wales are more likely to have ever smoked cannabis than those in many other countries,

with 15—year—old boys in scotland having the highest rate for boys overall. the world health organisation says the widespread use of harmful substances among children "is a serious public health threat". our health correspondent, dominic hughes, has more. vaping among uk teenagers has soared in the last few years. in 2013, it was fewer than 1% of 11 to 17 year olds. a decade later, it was nearly 8%. there are now more vapers than smokers — a trend confirmed by the world health organisation survey. the government has already introduced measures to clamp down on the promotion and illegal sale of vapes to under—18s. but the data on teenage drinking will also be a concern. at the age of 11, more than a third of boys and girls in england say they have drunk alcohol. by the age of 13, more than half have done so. both of these figures are higher than any of the other countries in the study. and, compared with other european countries, rates of drunkenness

in the uk were high, particularly among girls. and we've talked about the particular increase — or not increased use but higher use — of alcohol in a problematic way, as well as vaping by young girls more than boys. and we think influencers may be playing more of a part of that. so the more that can be done in that space as well, the better. health experts say while drinking among young people is in decline overall, the uk remains one of the heaviest drinking nations in the world and point out the earlier a child drinks, the more likely it is they will develop problems with alcohol later in life. dominic hughes, bbc news. doctorjo inchley, who is the international co—ordinator for the study, joins us now. the good morning and thank you for your time. amongst the findings,

which do you think are the ones that tell us most in terms of what is changing? t tell us most in terms of what is changing?— tell us most in terms of what is chanauin ? ~' , :, changing? i think the findings that stood out to _ changing? i think the findings that stood out to me _ changing? i think the findings that stood out to me were _ changing? i think the findings that stood out to me were after- changing? i think the findings that stood out to me were after a i changing? i think the findings that. stood out to me were after a couple of decades— stood out to me were after a couple of decades where we saw alcohol use declining _ of decades where we saw alcohol use declining in— of decades where we saw alcohol use declining in the uk, we've seen a change _ declining in the uk, we've seen a change now with an increase amongst certain— change now with an increase amongst certain groups, particularly 13 to 15—year—old girls and that's an area of concern — 15—year—old girls and that's an area of concern. the other finding that is striking — of concern. the other finding that is striking is around vaping and the rapid _ is striking is around vaping and the rapid increase in recent years particularly amongst girls again. if particularly amongst girls again. if we particularly amongst girls again. tt we concentrate on the increase amongst 13 to 15—year—old girls, i don't know what detail you go into in the study as to how that is happening on the circumstances in which that is happening. taste happening on the circumstances in which that is happening.— which that is happening. we don't look at it specifically _ which that is happening. we don't look at it specifically in _ which that is happening. we don't look at it specifically in our - look at it specifically in our studies _ look at it specifically in our studies but we look at other aspects of young _ studies but we look at other aspects of young peoples health and well— being of young peoples health and well—being but it's important to look— well—being but it's important to look at — well—being but it's important to look at it— well—being but it's important to look at it in the context of what has happened in the last four years

for young _ has happened in the last four years for young people across europe and the world _ for young people across europe and the world in terms of covid and we know— the world in terms of covid and we know lockdown is and school closures had a _ know lockdown is and school closures had a massive effect on young peoples — had a massive effect on young peoples lives though perhaps what we are seeing _ peoples lives though perhaps what we are seeing might be a rebound effect from covid _ are seeing might be a rebound effect from covid and lockdown as people -et from covid and lockdown as people get back— from covid and lockdown as people get back to normal and start re—socialising, but there will be lots of — re—socialising, but there will be lots of factors at play. broader cultural — lots of factors at play. broader cultural factors influencing how we approach _ cultural factors influencing how we approach alcohol in the uk, but for young _ approach alcohol in the uk, but for young people in particular there is school— young people in particular there is school pressure and social media and mental— school pressure and social media and mental health issues which we know are a _ mental health issues which we know are a concern for girls and they are probably— are a concern for girls and they are probably feeding into some of the trends _ probably feeding into some of the trends we are seeing. good morning. one of the things _ trends we are seeing. good morning. one of the things observed _ trends we are seeing. good morning. one of the things observed is - trends we are seeing. good morning. one of the things observed is that i one of the things observed is that younger people are drinking away from their parents and to excess. rather than with family. there is this kind of myth, and i don't know if it is, or this impression that in france you get a little tot of wine

with some water from a younger age to get used to alcohol, and here that doesn't happen. what i'm confused about is that doesn't seem to have changed. that's the way it's always been in the uk. is it more of always been in the uk. is it more of a problem now? t always been in the uk. is it more of a problem now?— a problem now? i think it is a big cultural difference _ a problem now? i think it is a big cultural difference in _ a problem now? i think it is a big cultural difference in how- a problem now? i think it is a big cultural difference in how we i cultural difference in how we introduce alcohol to young people whether— introduce alcohol to young people whether in the context of family and food as— whether in the context of family and food as it _ whether in the context of family and food as it tends to be in other european _ food as it tends to be in other european countries or whether it is typically— european countries or whether it is typically done outside the home and with friends as we see in the uk. you are — with friends as we see in the uk. you are right, these patterns have gone _ you are right, these patterns have gone on _ you are right, these patterns have gone on for— you are right, these patterns have gone on for a while, so it's not so much _ gone on for a while, so it's not so much about— gone on for a while, so it's not so much about the context in which young _ much about the context in which young people are using alcohol, it's more _ young people are using alcohol, it's more about— young people are using alcohol, it's more about what is driving a change in the _ more about what is driving a change in the way— more about what is driving a change in the way young people are behaving around _ in the way young people are behaving around alcohol and other substances and that's— around alcohol and other substances and that's what we need to understand.— and that's what we need to understand. 9 :, , :, , understand. what is the answer in terms of delaying _ understand. what is the answer in terms of delaying the _ understand. what is the answer in terms of delaying the use - understand. what is the answer in terms of delaying the use of- terms of delaying the use of alcohol? obviously access, there are laws in place, but access, denying access is not working because they

are getting hold of it anyway. you are getting hold of it anyway. you are absolutely _ are getting hold of it anyway. you are absolutely right. this is the one of— are absolutely right. this is the one of the _ are absolutely right. this is the one of the things we need to address and we _ one of the things we need to address and we will— one of the things we need to address and we will take action at different levels _ and we will take action at different levels we — and we will take action at different levels. we see the effect of recent legislative policy and the positive impact _ legislative policy and the positive impact it — legislative policy and the positive impact it had and that is important but we _ impact it had and that is important but we need to be addressing this at the level— but we need to be addressing this at the level of— but we need to be addressing this at the level of family and communities. young _ the level of family and communities. young people are obviously able to access _ young people are obviously able to access alcohol and vapes even though it's illegal— access alcohol and vapes even though it's illegal for them to do than buy them _ it's illegal for them to do than buy them and — it's illegal for them to do than buy them and we need to look at that in more _ them and we need to look at that in more detail— them and we need to look at that in more detail and encouraging young people _ more detail and encouraging young people and raise awareness of some of the _ people and raise awareness of some of the harms around substance use and encourage young people not to -ive and encourage young people not to give alcohol or by a vape for their friends _ give alcohol or by a vape for their friends and — give alcohol or by a vape for their friends and make sure the family are being _ friends and make sure the family are being supported. friends and make sure the family are being sopported-_ being supported. thanks very much for 'oinin: being supported. thanks very much forjoining us- _ being supported. thanks very much forjoining us. taking _ being supported. thanks very much forjoining us. taking a _ being supported. thanks very much forjoining us. taking a look- being supported. thanks very much forjoining us. taking a look at i being supported. thanks very much forjoining us. taking a look at the . forjoining us. taking a look at the use of alcohol and tobacco.

mike, everybody loves a local derby, don't they. everybody does. the assion, don't they. everybody does. the passion. the _ don't they. everybody does. the passion, the tension. the emotions and this— passion, the tension. the emotions and this was— passion, the tension. the emotions and this was a special one in terms of the _ and this was a special one in terms of the significance and the fallout knelt _ of the significance and the fallout knelt with the liverpool manager apologising for his side's performance, looking dejected and one of— performance, looking dejected and one of the — performance, looking dejected and one of the main players, virgil van dyke _ one of the main players, virgil van dyke was— one of the main players, virgil van dyke was questioning his team mate's desire _ dyke was questioning his team mate's desire to _ dyke was questioning his team mate's desire to win the title now. —— virgil— desire to win the title now. —— virgil van _ desire to win the title now. —— virgil van dijk. desire to win the title now. —— virgilvan dijk. on desire to win the title now. —— virgil van dijk. on the everton side. — virgil van dijk. on the everton side, jubilation and this was significant for their chances of staying — significant for their chances of staying up and they should do that now _ staying up and they should do that now and — staying up and they should do that now. and whoever was in charge of the tannoy. — now. and whoever was in charge of the tannoy, the dj chose to play the elton _ the tannoy, the dj chose to play the ettonjohn _ the tannoy, the dj chose to play the eltonjohn song, i guess that's the tannoy, the dj chose to play the elton john song, i guess that's why they call— elton john song, i guess that's why they call it — elton john song, i guess that's why they call it the blues. the everton fans enjoyed singing it. this is a merseyside derby, that everton fans will talk about for years and years, the time they pretty much secured their premier league survival

and at the same time, hands the initiative to arsenal and manchester city. injurgen klopp's time at liverpool, this could be the scoreline that hurts his team the most. a merseyside derby, a match he'd not lost on this ground. but this time this fixture did strange things to his defence. branthwaite off the post and in! jarred branthwaite for everton, whose shot crossed the line before his team mate made sure. this season this club's had eight points deducted. a win here would take them clear of the drop zone. for liverpool, to win the league, they felt they had to win this match. they knew with defeat they'd stay three points off the top. and calvert—lewin! 2—0, everton. dominic calvert—lewin scored the goal everton had had to wait for. they last won the derby

at goodison in 2010, but the end of klopp's unbeaten run here may also end his title hopes. yeah, what we need now is better football from our side and bad football from two other sides. so that's how it is now. they have to lose games. not only one, but two. historically, they don't do that. there's progress, you know, that's part of what we do. that's part of what i do and my staff do and the players as well. there's progress. you can see it, hopefully. we should be on 41 points. of course, you know, it's a different story then, but at the moment that's a big story and that's the story that we're going to enjoy. it was the score they'd hoped for at arsenal and city, but no game this season has meant this much to everton. in this year of points deductions, they are now set for safety. klopp's goodbye to goodison was everton's breakthrough night. joe lynskey, bbc news.

the decision to wearing a tracksuit for him _ the decision to wearing a tracksuit for him has — the decision to wearing a tracksuit for him has really paid off in the last few— for him has really paid off in the last few matches. just days after they were so nearly embarrassed in their fa cup semi final against coventry, manchester united, were again feeling the wrath of their fans, as they went behind twice to the bottom club sheffield united, there were huge sighs of relief as bruno fernandes helped turned the match around and secure the win. the win leaves them 6th, but still way adrift of the big european places, while sheffield united who put in a spirited display, will be relegated this weekend if they lose at newcastle. and the new manager's jean—philippe mateta

who— i'll it's been a really confident start by ronnie o'sullivan, at the world snooker championship. he needsjust two more frames, later today, for a place in the second round. o'sullivan was unstoppable as he raced into an 8—1 lead, overjackson page yesterday. he's looking to win his 8th world title, to move him one clear of the record he holdsjointly with stephen hendry. another of the favourites, mark allen is safely through after a 10—6 win over robbie williams. allen has never won the world title, and is hoping to follow in the footsteps of fellow, northern irish—men alex higgins and dennis taylor. he will face john higgins orjamie josiah _ he will face john higgins orjamie josiah and — he will face john higgins orjamie josiah and he has a match on his hands. _ josiah and he has a match on his hands. and — josiah and he has a match on his hands, and he 5—4 up going into the second _ hands, and he 5—4 up going into the second session. a big talking point when _ second session. a big talking point when they— second session. a big talking point when they have breaks from the play. the crucible _ when they have breaks from the play. the crucible theatre which has been the iconic— the crucible theatre which has been the iconic home of the championship since _

the iconic home of the championship since 1977. _ the iconic home of the championship since 1977, that could change in a few years' — since 1977, that could change in a few years' time as there's been speculation that the tournament could _ speculation that the tournament could move around the globe when the current— could move around the globe when the current deal— could move around the globe when the current deal for it to host runs out in 2027 _ current deal for it to host runs out in 2027 while the president of the company— in 2027 while the president of the company that runs the world snooker tour wanted to stay in sheffield, he can't make — tour wanted to stay in sheffield, he can't make any guarantees. trust me, money has the edge every time. we live in the real world. if there's deals out there that are going to change people's lives and increase profitability, it's not really a choice to make. it's all about money. get used to it. and because the world is changing and i'm sorry, i'm not going to be a dinosaur and not change with the world. onto tennis and emma raducanu says she's 'mentally and emotionally exhausted' after crashing out of the madrid open. she was beaten in straight sets by the qualifier, maria lourdes carle, of argentina in the first round. raducanu, the 2021,

us open champion — is still struggling for consistency, after returning from injury. the main thing everyone wants is a good _ the main thing everyone wants is a good performance at wimbledon. the french _ good performance at wimbledon. the french open first but you want are raring _ french open first but you want are raring to _ french open first but you want are raring to go — french open first but you want are raring to go with full energy. ease u . raring to go with full energy. ease u- on the raring to go with full energy. ease up on the pressure, _ raring to go with full energy. e59 up on the pressure, mike. raring to go with full energy. ease up on the pressure, mike. she i up on the pressure, mike. she wouldn't listen _ up on the pressure, mike. she wouldn't listen to me anyway. up on the pressure, mike. she i wouldn't listen to me anyway. you never know- _ wouldn't listen to me anyway. tm. never know. do you think carroll listens to us?— listens to us? well, not you. pardon? _ listens to us? well, not you. pardon? what _ listens to us? well, not you. pardon? what did _ listens to us? well, not you. pardon? what did you - listens to us? well, not you. pardon? what did you say? . listens to us? well, not you. pardon? what did you say? i j listens to us? well, not you. i pardon? what did you say? i said listens to us? well, not you. - pardon? what did you say? i said not ou, as a pardon? what did you say? i said not you. as aioke- _ pardon? what did you say? i said not you. as aioke- i— pardon? what did you say? i said not you, as ajoke. ithink— pardon? what did you say? i said not you, as a joke. i think that _ pardon? what did you say? i said not you, as a joke. i think that is - you, as a 'oke. i think that is fair. how— you, as ajoke. i think that is fair. how long _ you, as ajoke. i think that is fair. how long is _ you, as ajoke. i think that is fair. how long is that - you, as ajoke. i think that is fair. how long is that stare i you, as a joke. i think that is - fair. how long is that stare going to last for? _ fair. how long is that stare going to last for? hello, _ fair. how long is that stare going to last for? hello, carol. - fair. how long is that stare going to last for? hello, carol. i'm - to last for? hello, carol. i'm keeping _ to last for? hello, carol. i'm keeping out _ to last for? hello, carol. i'm keeping out of _ to last for? hello, carol. i'm keeping out of this - to last for? hello, carol. i'm l keeping out of this altogether. to last for? hello, carol. i'm - keeping out of this altogether. if you haven't _ keeping out of this altogether. if you haven't ventured _ keeping out of this altogether. if you haven't ventured out - keeping out of this altogether. if you haven't ventured out this - you haven't ventured out this morning _ you haven't ventured out this morning it's _ you haven't ventured out this morning it's a _ you haven't ventured out this morning it's a chilly- you haven't ventured out this morning it's a chilly start - you haven't ventured out this morning it's a chilly start to i you haven't ventured out this . morning it's a chilly start to the day and — morning it's a chilly start to the day and today _ morning it's a chilly start to the day and today and _ morning it's a chilly start to the day and today and tomorrow, . day and today and tomorrow, centrally. _ day and today and tomorrow, centrally, the _

day and today and tomorrow, centrally, the forecast - day and today and tomorrow, centrally, the forecast is- day and today and tomorrow, centrally, the forecast is one| day and today and tomorrow, . centrally, the forecast is one of bright _ centrally, the forecast is one of bright spells. _ centrally, the forecast is one of bright spells, sunshine - centrally, the forecast is one of bright spells, sunshine and - centrally, the forecast is one of- bright spells, sunshine and showers are not— bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as _ bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as windy— bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as windy as _ bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as windy as the _ bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as windy as the last - bright spells, sunshine and showers are not as windy as the last few - are not as windy as the last few days— are not as windy as the last few days but — are not as windy as the last few days but as _ are not as windy as the last few days but as we _ are not as windy as the last few days but as we head _ are not as windy as the last few days but as we head into - are not as windy as the last few days but as we head into the i are not as windy as the last few - days but as we head into the weekend it is more _ days but as we head into the weekend it is more unsettled, _ days but as we head into the weekend it is more unsettled, particularly- it is more unsettled, particularly across _ it is more unsettled, particularly across egiin— it is more unsettled, particularly across eglin and _ it is more unsettled, particularly across eglin and wales - it is more unsettled, particularly across eglin and wales with - it is more unsettled, particularly. across eglin and wales with some rain coming — across eglin and wales with some rain coming in— across eglin and wales with some rain coming in and _ across eglin and wales with some rain coming in and out _ across eglin and wales with some rain coming in and out will- across eglin and wales with some rain coming in and out will be - across eglin and wales with some rain coming in and out will be dry| rain coming in and out will be dry across— rain coming in and out will be dry across scotland _ rain coming in and out will be dry across scotland and _ rain coming in and out will be dry across scotland and northern - rain coming in and out will be dry- across scotland and northern ireland but not _ across scotland and northern ireland but not bone — across scotland and northern ireland but not bone dry~ _ across scotland and northern ireland but not bone dry. what— across scotland and northern ireland but not bone dry. what is— across scotland and northern ireland but not bone dry. what is happening| but not bone dry. what is happening today— but not bone dry. what is happening today as _ but not bone dry. what is happening today as we — but not bone dry. what is happening today as we have _ but not bone dry. what is happening today as we have a _ but not bone dry. what is happening today as we have a weather- but not bone dry. what is happening today as we have a weather front . today as we have a weather front producing — today as we have a weather front producing showers _ today as we have a weather front producing showers and _ today as we have a weather front producing showers and overnight�* today as we have a weather front i producing showers and overnight it produced _ producing showers and overnight it produced rain _ producing showers and overnight it produced rain at _ producing showers and overnight it produced rain at lower— producing showers and overnight it produced rain at lower levels - produced rain at lower levels and wintering — produced rain at lower levels and wintering us— produced rain at lower levels and wintering us at _ produced rain at lower levels and wintering us at the _ produced rain at lower levels and wintering us at the tops - produced rain at lower levels and wintering us at the tops of - produced rain at lower levels and wintering us at the tops of hills l produced rain at lower levels and| wintering us at the tops of hills in scotland — wintering us at the tops of hills in scotland and _ wintering us at the tops of hills in scotland and northern _ wintering us at the tops of hills in scotland and northern england i wintering us at the tops of hills in. scotland and northern england and its continuing — scotland and northern england and its continuing to _ scotland and northern england and its continuing to sink _ scotland and northern england and its continuing to sink south - scotland and northern england and | its continuing to sink south through the course — its continuing to sink south through the course of— its continuing to sink south through the course of the _ its continuing to sink south through the course of the day. _ its continuing to sink south through the course of the day. some - its continuing to sink south through the course of the day. some of- its continuing to sink south through the course of the day. some of the| the course of the day. some of the showers _ the course of the day. some of the showers as— the course of the day. some of the showers as they _ the course of the day. some of the showers as they head _ the course of the day. some of the showers as they head towards - the course of the day. some of the showers as they head towards the| showers as they head towards the showers _ showers as they head towards the showers witt — showers as they head towards the showers will be _ showers as they head towards the showers will be shopping - showers as they head towards the showers will be shopping east - showers as they head towards the . showers will be shopping east wales west london— showers will be shopping east wales west london and _ showers will be shopping east wales west london and southern _ showers will be shopping east wales west london and southern countiesl showers will be shopping east wales i west london and southern counties as well as— west london and southern counties as well as the _ west london and southern counties as well as the channel— west london and southern counties as well as the channel islands. _ west london and southern counties as well as the channel islands. after- well as the channel islands. after showers — well as the channel islands. after showers this _ well as the channel islands. after showers this morning _ well as the channel islands. after showers this morning it _ well as the channel islands. after showers this morning it will- showers this morning it will brighten _ showers this morning it will brighten up _ showers this morning it will brighten up and _ showers this morning it will brighten up and dry- showers this morning it will brighten up and dry up - showers this morning it will brighten up and dry up for. showers this morning it will. brighten up and dry up for you showers this morning it will- brighten up and dry up for you as it will across— brighten up and dry up for you as it will across northern _ brighten up and dry up for you as it will across northern england - brighten up and dry up for you as it will across northern england but. brighten up and dry up for you as it| will across northern england but for scotland. _ will across northern england but for scotland, although _ will across northern england but for scotland, although we _ will across northern england but for scotland, although we see - will across northern england but for scotland, although we see the - will across northern england but for. scotland, although we see the shower is clear— scotland, although we see the shower is clear from _ scotland, although we see the shower is clear from the _ scotland, although we see the shower is clear from the south, _ scotland, although we see the shower is clear from the south, through - scotland, although we see the shower is clear from the south, through the i is clear from the south, through the morning _ is clear from the south, through the morning we — is clear from the south, through the morning we witt— is clear from the south, through the morning we will hang _ is clear from the south, through the morning we will hang on _ is clear from the south, through the morning we will hang on in - is clear from the south, through the morning we will hang on in the - is clear from the south, through the l morning we will hang on in the north and some _ morning we will hang on in the north and some of— morning we will hang on in the north and some of them _ morning we will hang on in the north and some of them will— morning we will hang on in the north and some of them will be _ morning we will hang on in the north and some of them will be wintry- morning we will hang on in the north and some of them will be wintry in. and some of them will be wintry in nature _ and some of them will be wintry in nature not — and some of them will be wintry in nature not as— and some of them will be wintry in nature. not as windy _ and some of them will be wintry in nature. not as windy as _ and some of them will be wintry in nature. not as windy as yesterdayl nature. not as windy as yesterday where _ nature. not as windy as yesterday where we — nature. not as windy as yesterday where we are _ nature. not as windy as yesterday where we are looking _ nature. not as windy as yesterday where we are looking at _ nature. not as windy as yesterday- where we are looking at temperatures between _ where we are looking at temperatures between seven — where we are looking at temperatures between seven and _ where we are looking at temperatures between seven and 13 _ where we are looking at temperatures between seven and 13 degrees, - where we are looking at temperatures between seven and 13 degrees, so - where we are looking at temperatures between seven and 13 degrees, so it. between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel— between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feet cotd — between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel cold as _ between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel cold as we _ between seven and 13 degrees, so it

will feel cold as we go _ between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel cold as we go of _ between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel cold as we go of the - between seven and 13 degrees, so it will feel cold as we go of the day. i will feel cold as we go of the day. tonight— will feel cold as we go of the day. tonight you'll— will feel cold as we go of the day. tonight you'll find _ will feel cold as we go of the day. tonight you'll find showers - will feel cold as we go of the day. tonight you'll find showers move| tonight you'll find showers move away _ tonight you'll find showers move away from — tonight you'll find showers move away from the _ tonight you'll find showers move away from the far— tonight you'll find showers move away from the far south - tonight you'll find showers move away from the far south east - tonight you'll find showers move away from the far south east but| tonight you'll find showers move i away from the far south east but we have further— away from the far south east but we have further showers _ away from the far south east but we have further showers in _ away from the far south east but we have further showers in the - away from the far south east but we have further showers in the channel�* have further showers in the channel islands _ have further showers in the channel islands and — have further showers in the channel islands and the _ have further showers in the channel islands and the isles _ have further showers in the channel islands and the isles of— have further showers in the channel islands and the isles of scilly - have further showers in the channel islands and the isles of scilly and i islands and the isles of scilly and south-west — islands and the isles of scilly and south—west england _ islands and the isles of scilly and south—west england as _ islands and the isles of scilly and south—west england as well - islands and the isles of scilly and south—west england as well as i south—west england as well as north—eastern _ south—west england as well as north—eastern areas _ south—west england as well as north—eastern areas and - south—west england as well as north—eastern areas and on i south—west england as well as - north—eastern areas and on higher ground _ north—eastern areas and on higher ground they— north—eastern areas and on higher ground they could _ north—eastern areas and on higher ground they could be _ north—eastern areas and on higher ground they could be wintry- north—eastern areas and on higher ground they could be wintry but i ground they could be wintry but there _ ground they could be wintry but there is— ground they could be wintry but there is a — ground they could be wintry but there is a lot _ ground they could be wintry but there is a lot of— ground they could be wintry but there is a lot of clear— ground they could be wintry but there is a lot of clear skies - ground they could be wintry but there is a lot of clear skies and| there is a lot of clear skies and hardly— there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a — there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a breath _ there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a breath of _ there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a breath of wind. - there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a breath of wind. it - there is a lot of clear skies and hardly a breath of wind. it willl there is a lot of clear skies and . hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold _ hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold night — hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold night where _ hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold night where ever- hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold night where ever you - hardly a breath of wind. it will be a cold night where ever you are i hardly a breath of wind. it will be i a cold night where ever you are but where _ a cold night where ever you are but where we _ a cold night where ever you are but where we have _ a cold night where ever you are but where we have the _ a cold night where ever you are but where we have the blue _ a cold night where ever you are but where we have the blue in - a cold night where ever you are but where we have the blue in the - where we have the blue in the charts, — where we have the blue in the charts, that— where we have the blue in the charts, that indicates- where we have the blue in the - charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing — charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing or _ charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing or below _ charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing or below so _ charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing or below so there - charts, that indicates temperatures are freezing or below so there will. are freezing or below so there will be a widespread _ are freezing or below so there will be a widespread frost _ are freezing or below so there will be a widespread frost from - are freezing or below so there will be a widespread frost from the . be a widespread frost from the midlands. _ be a widespread frost from the midlands, north— be a widespread frost from the midlands, north wales - be a widespread frost from the - midlands, north wales northwards and the temperatures — midlands, north wales northwards and the temperatures you _ midlands, north wales northwards and the temperatures you see _ midlands, north wales northwards and the temperatures you see on _ midlands, north wales northwards and the temperatures you see on the - the temperatures you see on the chart— the temperatures you see on the chart indicate _ the temperatures you see on the chart indicate what _ the temperatures you see on the chart indicate what you _ the temperatures you see on the chart indicate what you can - the temperatures you see on the i chart indicate what you can expect in towns _ chart indicate what you can expect in towns and — chart indicate what you can expect in towns and cities. _ chart indicate what you can expect in towns and cities. as _ chart indicate what you can expect in towns and cities. as we - chart indicate what you can expect in towns and cities. as we head i chart indicate what you can expect i in towns and cities. as we head into friday— in towns and cities. as we head into friday we _ in towns and cities. as we head into friday we have _ in towns and cities. as we head into friday we have cloud _ in towns and cities. as we head into friday we have cloud and _ in towns and cities. as we head into friday we have cloud and rain- in towns and cities. as we head into friday we have cloud and rain in- friday we have cloud and rain in southern — friday we have cloud and rain in southern areas _ friday we have cloud and rain in southern areas and _ friday we have cloud and rain in southern areas and we - friday we have cloud and rain in southern areas and we move i friday we have cloud and rain in. southern areas and we move north friday we have cloud and rain in- southern areas and we move north and it's a mixture _ southern areas and we move north and it's a mixture of— southern areas and we move north and it's a mixture of bright _ southern areas and we move north and it's a mixture of bright spells, - it's a mixture of bright spells, sunny— it's a mixture of bright spells, sunny intervals _ it's a mixture of bright spells, sunny intervals and _ it's a mixture of bright spells, sunny intervals and some - it's a mixture of bright spells, - sunny intervals and some scattered showers _ sunny intervals and some scattered showers but — sunny intervals and some scattered showers but again. _ sunny intervals and some scattered showers but again, not _ sunny intervals and some scattered showers but again, not as - sunny intervals and some scattered showers but again, not as windy. sunny intervals and some scattered showers but again, not as windy as| showers but again, not as windy as it has— showers but again, not as windy as it has been— showers but again, not as windy as it has been with _ showers but again, not as windy as it has been with temperatures - showers but again, not as windy as it has been with temperatures at l it has been with temperatures at eight _ it has been with temperatures at eight in — it has been with temperatures at eight in the _ it has been with temperatures at eight in the north _ it has been with temperatures at eight in the north and _ it has been with temperatures at eight in the north and 13 - it has been with temperatures at eight in the north and 13 as - it has been with temperatures at eight in the north and 13 as we i it has been with temperatures at. eight in the north and 13 as we push down _ eight in the north and 13 as we push down towards — eight in the north and 13 as we push down towards the _ eight in the north and 13 as we push down towards the south. _ eight in the north and 13 as we push down towards the south. as - eight in the north and 13 as we push down towards the south. as we - eight in the north and 13 as we pushl down towards the south. as we head into the _ down towards the south. as we head into the weekend, _ down towards the south. as we head into the weekend, if— down towards the south. as we head into the weekend, if anything, - 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spicer�*s "room next door" you as may have seen michael spicer�*s "room next door" sketches pop up on social media. in the videos, he plays a frustrated adviser communicating live with figures like liz truss and prince andrew while they give ill—fated — or notorious — public appearances. now he's launching a new podcast called no room. we'll hear more about that in a moment — but first, here's michael advising former president trump. today i can announce further steps to expand testing capacity. we're working with several groups to determine if self—swab... the self—swab, a much easier process than the current process. that's not very. nice to do. right now, the stuff about american spirit. we have a current process that's a little bit difficult. you've said that. if you haven't done the... the groups are working

on determining if a self swab you've just said that is as effective as the other. you've said that you don't need to talk about self swab again. we're going to see if we can do a self swab, which is... i think he's stuck and somebody nudge him. pence, don'tjust stand there like a dead eyed airline pilot. nudge him. let me just say the self—swab is what it is. it's a self swab. you do it yourself. you're kidding. really? i mean, i had you down as a useless picnic basket full of mints, but you're clearly on the ball here. michael spicerjoins us now. does it ever end we you not walking off and being frustrated? that is how i imagine special advisers being. a, how i imagine special advisers beinu. . ., how i imagine special advisers beinu. �* ., ., how i imagine special advisers beinu. ., ., , how i imagine special advisers beinu. ., ., . , ~ being. a lot of my sketches end like that because _ being. a lot of my sketches end like that because i've _ being. a lot of my sketches end like that because i've had _ being. a lot of my sketches end like that because i've had enough - being. a lot of my sketches end like that because i've had enough and i l that because i've had enough and i think that is my best punch line. he was the most fun one you did almost enjoyed? i was the most fun one you did almost en'o ed? i, �* was the most fun one you did almost en'o ed? i,�* i , enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. ithink enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. i think a — enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. | think a lot �* enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. i think a lot of d enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. i think a lot of the i enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. i think a lot of the time i enjoyed? i don't necessarily en'oy it. i think a lot of the time i'm h

it. i think a lot of the time i'm watching these people thinking, maybe you should be just doing your job. but i suppose priti patel was, she is comedy gold. she wrote about 70% of the sketch that i did and i justjoined the dots, really with her incompetence. just joined the dots, really with her incompetence.— just joined the dots, really with her incompetence. there have been vafious her incompetence. there have been various interviews _ her incompetence. there have been various interviews from _ her incompetence. there have been various interviews from across - her incompetence. there have been various interviews from across all i various interviews from across all parties and across the pond, from donald trump, and sometimes it's mind blowing. you arejust donald trump, and sometimes it's mind blowing. you are just saying stuff that makes no sense. and it's as if it's going to be accepted. it feels like it has come full circle with regard to media training and how you respond to a question. you know about this. it seems like media training is at a point whereby let's try and smooth this over, a well oiled spin machine to make sure you

didn't actually say anything that you were talking all the time and by the time borisjohnson and donald trump got in charge they pretty much said whatever they wanted to say. they couldn't be rained in. sometimes, michael, politicians like to try and own funny things even when they are the but of the joke. have you had politicians who have been your targets who have praised your work and tried to turn it full—circle? your work and tried to turn it full-circle ?_ your work and tried to turn it full-circle? . a, . . ~ full-circle? yeah, matt hancock. what happened? _ full-circle? yeah, matt hancock. what happened? they _ full-circle? yeah, matt hancock. what happened? they don't - full-circle? yeah, matt hancock. | what happened? they don't make full-circle? yeah, matt hancock. i what happened? they don't make a ublic what happened? they don't make a -ublic thin . what happened? they don't make a public thing of _ what happened? they don't make a public thing of it _ what happened? they don't make a public thing of it and _ what happened? they don't make a public thing of it and they _ what happened? they don't make a public thing of it and theyjust - public thing of it and theyjust follow— public thing of it and theyjust follow you on social media and i must _ follow you on social media and i must say, — follow you on social media and i must say, i_ follow you on social media and i must say, i find that really annoying because i want them to do theiriob, _ annoying because i want them to do theiriob, i— annoying because i want them to do theirjob, iwant annoying because i want them to do theirjob, i want them to not find what _ theirjob, i want them to not find what i _ theirjob, i want them to not find what i do — theirjob, i want them to not find what i do funny. i want them to feel like they've — what i do funny. i want them to feel like they've been targeted, i really do. i like they've been targeted, i really do i don't— like they've been targeted, i really do. i don't want to be pali with them _ do. i don't want to be pali with them and _ do. i don't want to be pali with them and sit on a sofa with them on a new— them and sit on a sofa with them on a new show— them and sit on a sofa with them on a new show or anything like that, making _ a new show or anything like that, making sure you have brought matt hancock _ making sure you have brought matt hancock. �* .,

making sure you have brought matt hancock-— and - making sure you have brought matt hancock._ and i i hancock. and here now...! and i don't like — hancock. and here now...! and i don't like the _ hancock. and here now...! and i don't like the fact _ hancock. and here now...! and i don't like the fact they _ hancock. and here now...! and i don't like the fact they think - hancock. and here now...! and i don't like the fact they think it's| don't like the fact they think it's all a _ don't like the fact they think it's all a game, don't like the fact they think it's alla game, because it's don't like the fact they think it's all a game, because it's not. you are seriously. — all a game, because it's not. mm are seriously, through comedy, is often the best way, you are making a serious point. often the best way, you are making a serious point-— serious point. yeah, i am. i don't want to get _ serious point. yeah, i am. i don't want to get on — serious point. yeah, i am. i don't want to get on my _ serious point. yeah, i am. i don't want to get on my high _ serious point. yeah, i am. i don't want to get on my high horse. i serious point. yeah, i am. i don'tl want to get on my high horse. no, serious point. yeah, i am. i don't - want to get on my high horse. no, do it. when i want to get on my high horse. no, do it- when i see — want to get on my high horse. no, do it. when i see things _ want to get on my high horse. no, do it. when i see things like _ want to get on my high horse. no, do it. when i see things like this - want to get on my high horse. no, do it. when i see things like this i - it. when i see things like this i see ou it. when i see things like this i see you doing _ it. when i see things like this i see you doing interviews - it. when i see things like this i see you doing interviews with l it. when i see things like this i - see you doing interviews with people who aren't _ see you doing interviews with people who aren't answering the question, it gets _ who aren't answering the question, it gets me — who aren't answering the question, it gets me very angry and it makes me want_ it gets me very angry and it makes me want to — it gets me very angry and it makes me want to write comedy about it because _ me want to write comedy about it because it — me want to write comedy about it because it is like therapy for me. but in _ because it is like therapy for me. but in some _ because it is like therapy for me. but in some ways it is frustrating sitting here interviewing politicians when they don't answer the question because the job is to ask the questions of the audience want to be asked and hopefully elicit an answer and be pushed if they don't. it is frustrating, but do you think comedy is going to change that? from the sound of things, when you have politicians who say this is a laugh and it's more publicity and i will kind of engage. more publicity and i will kind of enurae. ., , y

more publicity and i will kind of eniiae_ ., , , .,�* 4' engage. honestly, i don't think it chanes engage. honestly, i don't think it changes anything _ engage. honestly, i don't think it changes anything at _ engage. honestly, i don't think it changes anything at all. - engage. honestly, i don't think it changes anything at all. i - engage. honestly, i don't think it changes anything at all. i think. changes anything at all. i think there _ changes anything at all. i think there are — changes anything at all. i think there are comedians that really push buttons— there are comedians that really push buttons like joe lycett, whereas i haven't— buttons like joe lycett, whereas i haven't gone through like that and i seem _ haven't gone through like that and i seem to _ haven't gone through like that and i seem to be — haven't gone through like that and i seem to be a form of entertainment for mps _ seem to be a form of entertainment for mps and that is frustrating, but i don't _ for mps and that is frustrating, but i don't think people see through it. you are _ i don't think people see through it. you are doing something slightly different with the pod cast, and i'm going to try really hard not to give it away because i have only heard the intro of the first episode, 17 minutes, and a lot is crammed in i'm fearing it is marking the desire to be woke in some ways by those higher “p be woke in some ways by those higher up in business or influences who just don't get what is going on in real life. , , ., ,~' .

real life. yes. there is one sketch that i am proud _ real life. yes. there is one sketch that i am proud of— real life. yes. there is one sketch that i am proud of and _ real life. yes. there is one sketch that i am proud of and enjoy - real life. yes. there is one sketch| that i am proud of and enjoy doing which _ that i am proud of and enjoy doing which is _ that i am proud of and enjoy doing which isjust the that i am proud of and enjoy doing which is just the fact that when you hear about, — which is just the fact that when you hearabout, reports which is just the fact that when you hear about, reports about gender inequality, systemic racism and they say thihgs_ inequality, systemic racism and they say things like we have published a report— say things like we have published a report and — say things like we have published a report and we had a committee look at the _ report and we had a committee look at the report and i've just done a sketch— at the report and i've just done a sketch whereby the report is written by 12 white — sketch whereby the report is written by 12 white men in a room or called tim and _ by 12 white men in a room or called tim and they— by 12 white men in a room or called tim and they all talk to each other and i— tim and they all talk to each other and i play— tim and they all talk to each other and i play all of them and they are all talking — and i play all of them and they are all talking to each other and they all talking to each other and they all pretty— all talking to each other and they all pretty much coming up with a response — all pretty much coming up with a response that the government will be happy— response that the government will be happy with, or whoever it is who has commissioned the report, and so, yeah. _ commissioned the report, and so, yeah. my— commissioned the report, and so, yeah, my sketches are kind of slightly— yeah, my sketches are kind of slightly more satirical, but there is a lot— slightly more satirical, but there is a lot of— slightly more satirical, but there is a lot of character comedy in there — is a lot of character comedy in there. there is a nice mix in there. did you _ there. there is a nice mix in there. did you have — there. there is a nice mix in there. did you have a _ there. there is a nice mix in there. did you have a job before comedy? yeah. that thing you had, you showed there. _ yeah. that thing you had, you showed there. i— yeah. that thing you had, you showed there. iwas— yeah. that thing you had, you showed there, i was six weeks fresh out of

quitting _ there, i was six weeks fresh out of quitting my— there, i was six weeks fresh out of quitting myjob as a copywriter. advertising? quitting my job as a copywriter. advertising?— advertising? no, 'ust generic copywrinng _ advertising? no, 'ust generic copywrinng for_ advertising? no, just generic copywriting for anybody - advertising? no, just generic copywriting for anybody who l advertising? no, just generic- copywriting for anybody who wanted pithy lines on their social media or whatever~ — pithy lines on their social media or whatever. ., , whatever. you were sitting there in our da whatever. you were sitting there in your day job _ whatever. you were sitting there in your day job thinking, _ whatever. you were sitting there in your day job thinking, i'm - whatever. you were sitting there in your day job thinking, i'm seeing i your dayjob thinking, i'm seeing things, i've got to do something. that's exactly what it was. i had a 'ob that's exactly what it was. i had a job where — that's exactly what it was. i had a job where i— that's exactly what it was. i had a job where i had two screens on one screen _ job where i had two screens on one screen had — job where i had two screens on one screen had myjob and the other had my social— screen had myjob and the other had my social media feed, so the first one came — my social media feed, so the first one came about because my social media _ one came about because my social media feed — one came about because my social media feed was going crazy about boris _ media feed was going crazy about borisjohnson talking media feed was going crazy about boris johnson talking about making model— boris johnson talking about making model buses as a hobby, and when i thought— model buses as a hobby, and when i thought -- _ model buses as a hobby, and when i thought —— saw that i thought i would — thought —— saw that i thought i would make a note of it and go home and do _ would make a note of it and go home and do it— would make a note of it and go home and do it and — would make a note of it and go home and do it and that is how it happened. and do it and that is how it happened-— and do it and that is how it ha--ened. �* . , happened. and that is where it was born. interesting _ happened. and that is where it was born. interesting having _ happened. and that is where it was born. interesting having you - happened. and that is where it was born. interesting having you here l born. interesting having you here today. have you been watching this morning and taking notes? little bits and pieces _ morning and taking notes? little bits and pieces and _ morning and taking notes? little bits and pieces and i've - morning and taking notes? little bits and pieces and i've heard you have _ bits and pieces and i've heard you have already taken somebody apart, so i will— have already taken somebody apart, so i will look at that later. that was 'ust so i will look at that later. that was just me- — so i will look at that later. that was just me. that _ so i will look at that later. that was just me. that was - so i will look at that later. that was just me. that was me - so i will look at that later. “inst wasjust me. that was me off—camera. was just me. that was me off—camera. that was mike, i believe.

lovely having you with us. michael spicer: no room is available to stream on bbc sounds now. hello, good morning from bbc london. i'm victoria hollins. it's a week to go until polling day for the mayoral election. to help you make up your mind, the four main candidates went head to head in a bbc debate last night taking on the key issues, including policing, crime, and housing. but it was over the issue of pay—per—mile, where the candidates clashed. you can watch the debate — a mayorfor london — in full, tonight on bbc1 at 8 o'clock. there will be more strike action on london underground this friday and into saturday morning. customer service managers, who are members of the tssa union, will walk out in a dispute over terms and conditions. tfl said it's disappointed

but doesn't expect the action to cause "significant disruption". specialist window cleaners had to be brought in to tackle the glass floors of tower bridge. they abseiled from the tower�*s twin high—level walkways to clean the underside of their glass floors. it's the first time they've been cleaned since the glass was installed a decade ago. let's take a look at the tubes now. now on to the weather. dry with sunny spells this morning, but turning increasingly cloudy early into the afternoon with the increasing likelihood of spells of rain moving in from the north, heavy in places. a cool day. maximum temperature 13c. that's it. we're back in half an hour. bye for now. good morning. welcome to breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. our headlines today...

the senior executive at the centre of the post office scandal, criticised for giving misleading evidence in court, faces questions at the post office inquiry today. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after three people were injured in a school stabbing in ammanford, in wales. labour promises to overhaul the rail system if it wins the next election — including nationalising the train network within five years of coming to power. continuing the bowel babe legacy — dame deborah james's family asks politicians to act to improve cancer diagnosis and treatments. the first ever all—female team to win the ocean globe round—the—world yacht race. we'll speak to some of the maiden crew later on the show. good morning. over the next couple of days it would be cold, essentially with bright intervals and showers. more unsettled over the

weekend. especially in england and wales. all of the details later. a former post office executive — who's described as knowing more about the faulty horizon it system than anyone else — is giving evidence at the inquiry into the scandal later today. angela van den bogerd was the company's most important witness in the legal action taken by sub—postmaster alan bates, and was heavily criticised by the judge for giving misleading evidence in court. our business correspondent, emma simpson, has the details. angela is our head of network services. she was paula vennells' right hand woman — one of the big characters in the drama at the centre of so many ruined lives. we're all so sorry for your loss. bogerd was personally involved in many cases. desperate — he was really desperate. and overseeing complaints from sub—postmasters. she was also involved in the mediation scheme,

supposed to help them. angela van den bogerd, head of partnerships. here she is sitting next to ceo paula vennells before mps when they were told the post office had found no evidence of any miscarriages ofjustice. what we've wanted to do and been very committed to doing is doing a thorough investigation on each of the issues raised by each of the applications. we've not dragged our feet. but this was all part of the alleged cover up. i've managed to find some letters. later that year, parmod kalia got a letter from angela. he was wrongly convicted of stealing from his post office in 2001 and sent to prison. he wrote in after seeing a bbc panorama, asking the post office to look again at his case. horizon does not have functionality that allows post office or fujitsu to edit or delete the transactions recorded by branches. well... that wasn't correct. we know it's not correct. she finishes by saying,

"if you think you've been wrongly convicted, get a solicitor." when i saw that, i literally did collapse on the floor, knowing there's no way i can get a solicitor and sue them in court. what has the post office done to you, parmod? they've broken me, broken me. 22—odd years. lost. never going to get that time back with the family — with work or anything. how important is it for you to see her answer questions now? i need to know, has she finally understood and accepted where she was wrong and maybe put her hands up and say, "yeah, sorry. " that would mean a lot to us. it's a big moment for the inquiry, too. she's a person whose finger was in lots of pies. she made a lot of big decisions. so she's got a lot to answer for.

angela van den bogerd has already said she would cooperate fully and willingly with the inquiry. you'll be hard pushed to find an empty seat in this room today. emma simpson, bbc news. charlie, yesterday we were hearing the start of an incident in wales and his school where we understood and his school where we understood an attack had taken place. more details have come out in the last 2a hours. let's bring you right up to date. a teenage girl has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder after a stabbing at a school in south—west wales. two teachers and a pupil were taken to hospital with non—life—threatening injuries. our wales correspondent, tomos morgan, is in ammanford this morning. tell us what you know this morning about the injuries and also about the sequence of events. welcome that

we have had — the sequence of events. welcome that we have had a — the sequence of events. welcome that we have had a few _ the sequence of events. welcome that we have had a few more _ the sequence of events. welcome that we have had a few more details, - we have had a few more details, actually. we understand, the bbc understands one of the teachers who was injured was fiona eilas, head of year 7 and a drama teacher. it happens roundabout quarter past 11. the alarm was raised and a code red issued after reports of a stabbing. the school went into lockdown. pupils went to the classrooms and they remained there for four and a half hours, adjustable safety precautions, a police presence came here to make sure everything was safe and to question some of the children. when they were released, there was a huge sense of relief from parents and families. still questions about how and why

something like this has happened in this bilingual secondary school in this bilingual secondary school in this small former mining town in south—west wales. the police, as you can see behind me, they have been here all evening, continuing their investigation as well. we have had a statement from the head teacher, who has said he has thanked the pupils and staff for their calm and measured response after what happened yesterday. a distressing day. he said thoughts and prayers were with those families affected. the timeline will look at how it happened, what happened and what needs to be done in the future. for the moment. _ needs to be done in the future. for the moment, thank you very much. scotland's first minister humza yousaf is to hold an extra cabinet meeting this morning. it's not confirmed what's on the agenda but comes amid speculation over the future of the snp's coalition with the green party, following criticism of the scottish government's decision to scrap some climate change targets. two of the horses that bolted

and ran loose in london on wednesday are in a "serious condition", a minister has said. james cartlidge said that all five horses involved have all been recovered. he said three are fine but two of the animals — named vida and quaker — are in a serious condition. labour is setting out its plans to re—nationalise the rail network within five years if it wins the next general election. the party is also committing to automatic refunds for train delays and improved internet connections. we're joined now by our chief political correspondent, henry zeffman. morning to you. talk to us about labour plans for the railways. five years or one parliamentary _ plans for the railways. five years or one parliamentary term, - plans for the railways. five years or one parliamentary term, that l plans for the railways. five years | or one parliamentary term, that is the fairly sharp, short timetable labour has set itself to renationalise the railways. they say they would do this by waiting for

each of the franchises that runs individual routes to cease and then rather than re—tendering, having a new bidding process for another company to run the franchise, the government would then take each route back into public ownership, ultimately leaving the railways all run in england by a new company called great british railways, effectively the new british rail. they are not nationalising or proposing to nationalise the rolling stock companies that own the trains themselves. the government would still lease those trains from the companies. laboursays still lease those trains from the companies. labour says this is their plan to fix broken railways, which are not fit for purpose. for many experiencing the railways the problems are due to delays and prices. earlierwe problems are due to delays and prices. earlier we asked the transport secretary if she could guarantee that prices could fall. this is what she had to say. i can't guarantee we will lower fares. what we are saying is we will simplify them. passengers have to contend with a dizzying array

of different types of fares and ticket structures. what we are saying is we will have an ambition for a best fare guarantee. just as when people travel in london and they tap in and out of the system, they have confidence they are getting the lowest possible fare for that journey. at the moment, they don't have that confidence in the train system because it is so complex and quite often people feel they are being fleeced. the rail industry has been very critical of these plans, not surprising given they would not exist under these plans. they say, if you stifle private sector innovation then inevitably you are either going to have reduced train services or a bigger subsidy from government. a similar criticism from the conservative rail minister. he says labour's plans will do nothing to improve train reliability and affordability and inevitably taxes will rise to pay for theirs.-

will rise to pay for theirs. thank ou ve will rise to pay for theirs. thank you very much- _ will rise to pay for theirs. thank you very much- -- _ will rise to pay for theirs. thank you very much. -- pay- will rise to pay for theirs. thank you very much. -- pay for- will rise to pay for theirs. thank you very much. -- pay for this. | ukraine has begun using long—range ballistic missiles that were secretly provided by the us against invading russian forces. president biden personally approved the shipment after russia began using similar weapons it had secured from north korea. the missiles are part of a $1 billion aid package for ukraine that was agreed in march. spain's prime minister says he's stepping back from public duties while he considers whether to resign over corruption allegations against his wife. pedro sanchez made the announcement after a court launched an inquiry into begona gomez in response to a complaint raised by an anti—corruption group with links to the far right. she has not been charged. ofsted's single word judgments are set to remain in place despite campaigners asking for them to be scrapped, following the suicide of a primary school headteacher. ruth perry died after her school in reading was downgraded from "outstanding" to "inadequate". our education editor, branwenjeffreys, reports. an inspection at this small primary

started this debate. the single word judgment, "inadequate", haunted the head teacher. ruth perry took her own life, knowing the school would be downgraded. a coroner found the inspection had contributed. ruth's sisterjulia waters has campaigned for single word judgments to go. mps agreed after an inquiry, but the government says the system should stay. i'm deeply upset — more than a little bit angry that after all that time, all that commitment, all that talking, all that apparent listening, they're not going to act. they are not going to do the things that they know my family and so many others need and want to change. headteachers' unions said the government was failing to listen and concerns remained about the system. if we have another tragedy that will sit firmly on the shoulders of ministers,

who are failing to grapple with this problem right now. we have calls from members regularly on our helpline in crisis because of inspection, and we know we are so very close to that happening again. it's not scaremongering. we've seen it happen once, we cannot afford to see it happen again. the new head of ofsted says he wants to consult widely. the labour party have already said they would scrap the one word judgment. branwen jeffreys, bbc news. the blades of the moulin rouge windmill, one of the most famous landmarks in paris, have fallen off. the cabaret has been entertaining visitors in the city for more than 130 years but, this morning, the blades were seen lying in the street. emergency workers said there was no risk of further damage but it's not yet known what caused the accident. the moulin rouge is thought to be the birthplace of the famous dance, the can—can.

the blades themselves were just in the street. no longer where they were. no doubt, the story will emerge. has it been windy in france, in paris? i don't know. carol, are you braced for that specific question, the wind speed in paris? i could see carol's base. apparently it was a windy night. no, no, it wasn't. i am talking about the wind in paris. �* ., ., , . in paris. i'm going to start with ollen in paris. i'm going to start with pollen levels. _ in paris. i'm going to start with pollen levels. this _ in paris. i'm going to start with pollen levels. this morning, i in paris. i'm going to start with pollen levels. this morning, if| in paris. i'm going to start with i pollen levels. this morning, if you have an allergy to tree pollen, oak tree pollen is at its peak at the moment. you can see much of england and wales has moderate levels today, something to bear in mind. what we had today is a weather front which are sinking south and taking showers

with it. in southern england, the channel islands, the isle of wight, we are looking at a cloudy start with one or two breaks and showers. if you showers to start the day in northern ireland and scotland, where some of them are wintry on higher ground, as they have been over some of the hills and mountains in northern england. you can see the progress the weather front is making as it sinks south, taking showers with it. some of them will be heavy to the course of the afternoon. it will brighten with fewer showers across northern england, northern ireland and southern scotland. we hang onto them across the north—east of scotland. some of them will be wintry on higher ground. not as windy as yesterday. still a cold feeling daily temperatures seven to 13 degrees. this evening and overnight eventually the showers make their way into the south east. still some through the channel islands and south—west england. some of them could clip south—west wales

as well. also some in the north east and wintry on higher ground. it would be a cold night with a widespread frost anywhere from the midlands and north wales northwards. especially if you live in a sheltered area. tomorrow again we are looking at bright spells, some sunshine to start the day cloud bubbling up through the day with further showers developing. a lot of them were scattered but we do have heavier showers coming in across southern areas. light winds with temperatures eight to 13. it turns more unsettled into the weekend for parts of england and wales. thank ou ve parts of england and wales. thank you very much- — the family of dame deborahjames, who died of bowel cancer in 2022, is urging the government to publish a long—term cancer strategy for england, within one year of the upcoming general election. in an open letter, deborah's family say they want to continue her campaign to improve early diagnosis and access to treatment.

let's take a look back at her legacy. hello, i'm deborah james. i'm also known as bowel babe. one thing that i want to do before i passed away was to setup the bowel babe fund. we will ensure that more people have access to personalised medicine, clinical trials, cutting—edge technology to help more and more people live longer with cancer. for five years with remarkable energy and good humour, dame deborahjames documented her life with cancer. # baby, baby, baby...#. her inspiring videos often set to music and posted on social media reached millions, with one clear aim — to make people aware of bowel cancer. —— of the symptoms of bowel cancer. the former deputy head teacher was just 35 when she was diagnosed with stage four bowel

cancer in 2016. she was determined to share her story to help others. # rise up...#. before she died in 2022, dame deborah launched the bowel babe fund for cancer research uk, which to date has raised more than £12 million to improving early detection, and it continues her incredible legacy by supporting those living with cancer. we'rejoined now by dame deborah's dad, alistairjames, and also by owenjackson from cancer research uk. you are both very welcome this morning. i will say the obvious. i imagine you must be very proud. we shared some of the images is a moment ago of the campaign, but deborah did in the noise around everything she created. you deborah did in the noise around everything she created. you must be very proud- — everything she created. you must be very proud- you _ everything she created. you must be very proud. you are _ everything she created. you must be very proud. you are very _ everything she created. you must be very proud. you are very proud - everything she created. you must be very proud. you are very proud but l very proud. you are very proud but he wished the reason for being had not happened. she was an incredible campaigner, she knew how to open

doors. one promise we made to her at the end of the day as a family, we would continue to fund and the legacy. dad volunteered. come on, you can talk to people and get the message across. that you can talk to people and get the message across.— you can talk to people and get the message across. that is why you are here today- — message across. that is why you are here today- it _ message across. that is why you are here today. it is _ message across. that is why you are here today. it is so _ message across. that is why you are here today. it is so important. - message across. that is why you are here today. it is so important. she l here today. it is so important. she alwa s here today. it is so important. she always from _ here today. it is so important. she always from day — here today. it is so important. she always from day one _ here today. it is so important. she always from day one had - here today. it is so important. she always from day one had that - here today. it is so important. she i always from day one had that oomph. she got bowel cancer on the news and it was about how can i get on page one? the message was so important. we had this open letter you have come up with. in some ways it sounds like the things you are asking for our common sense. why not? deborah would be saying to knock some heads together, it is common sense. if we can do it stage i can stage two,

nine out of ten a chance of surviving, stage three and four it is the other way around, the numbers. we can put the money into other things if we get it right in the early stages.— the early stages. what are the sticking points _ the early stages. what are the sticking points right _ the early stages. what are the sticking points right now? - the early stages. what are the l sticking points right now? thank the early stages. what are the - sticking points right now? thank you for havini sticking points right now? thank you for having us- _ sticking points right now? thank you for having us. we _ sticking points right now? thank you for having us. we are _ sticking points right now? thank you for having us. we are so _ sticking points right now? thank you for having us. we are so pleased - for having us. we are so pleased that alistair and the family have decided — that alistair and the family have decided tojoin with that alistair and the family have decided to join with us and camping with us, _ decided to join with us and camping with us, calling for a national cancer— with us, calling for a national cancer plan and calling for the government to prioritise this in the health— government to prioritise this in the health system. some of the sticking points— health system. some of the sticking points unlike alastair said. they seem _ points unlike alastair said. they seem simple. how can we diagnose people _ seem simple. how can we diagnose people early on and get people into tests and _ people early on and get people into tests and treatments as early as possible — tests and treatments as early as possible and when they are in those systems. _ possible and when they are in those systems, they get the best treatment possible? _ systems, they get the best treatment iossible? . . , , ., possible? treatment has improved massively over _ possible? treatment has improved massively over the _ possible? treatment has improved massively over the decades. - possible? treatment has improved massively over the decades. it - possible? treatment has improved |

massively over the decades. it used to be a life sentence and there was no prospect of being able to live, let alone live with cancer. yes. no prospect of being able to live, let alone live with cancer.- let alone live with cancer. yes, if ou look let alone live with cancer. yes, if you look back — let alone live with cancer. yes, if you look back to _ let alone live with cancer. yes, if you look back to the _ let alone live with cancer. yes, if you look back to the 1970s, - let alone live with cancer. yes, if you look back to the 1970s, we l let alone live with cancer. yes, if. you look back to the 1970s, we have doubled _ you look back to the 1970s, we have doubled survival for all types of cancer~ — doubled survival for all types of cancer~ it — doubled survival for all types of cancer. it is not a position of hopelessness, it is a position of hateful— hopelessness, it is a position of hateful to— hopelessness, it is a position of hateful to what we want the government tojoin us in doing is to build _ government tojoin us in doing is to build on _ government tojoin us in doing is to build on it— government tojoin us in doing is to build on it and make the uk one of the best— build on it and make the uk one of the best places in the world to detect. — the best places in the world to detect, diagnose and treat cancers as soon— detect, diagnose and treat cancers as soon as — detect, diagnose and treat cancers as soon as possible. are detect, diagnose and treat cancers as soon as possible.— detect, diagnose and treat cancers as soon as possible. are you able to iut as soon as possible. are you able to put figures — as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on _ as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on this? _ as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on this? i _ as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on this? i am _ as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on this? i am looking i as soon as possible. are you able to put figures on this? i am looking at | put figures on this? i am looking at a statement from the department of health. the nhs has seen and treated record numbers of cancer patients over the past three years. survival rates are improving over almost all types of cancer. we have put billions into diagnostic centres across england, speeding up diagnosis amongst other things they have mentioned. what are the issues? is it money? wherein lies the issue?

the government of the early diagnostic centres, they are absolutely the kind of things we need _ absolutely the kind of things we need. progress is significant. the challenge — need. progress is significant. the challenge as more people are getting cancers— challenge as more people are getting cancers in— challenge as more people are getting cancers in our lifetimes. one outed of two _ cancers in our lifetimes. one outed of two of— cancers in our lifetimes. one outed of two of us, — cancers in our lifetimes. one outed of two of us, nearly one in two of us in _ of two of us, nearly one in two of us in the — of two of us, nearly one in two of us inthe uk_ of two of us, nearly one in two of us in the uk will —— cancer in our lifetimes — us in the uk will —— cancer in our lifetimes |s— us in the uk will -- cancer in our lifetimes-— us in the uk will -- cancer in our lifetimes. , . , , ., , lifetimes. is that because of better scannini lifetimes. is that because of better scanning and _ lifetimes. is that because of better scanning and better— lifetimes. is that because of better scanning and better diagnosis? - lifetimes. is that because of better scanning and better diagnosis? we are getting older and it is about living _ are getting older and it is about living with the disease and avoid getting — living with the disease and avoid getting in— living with the disease and avoid getting in the first place. partly it is about — getting in the first place. partly it is about money but also that taking — it is about money but also that taking innovation from researchers and putting it into the clinic. it cannot— and putting it into the clinic. it cannot continue to do things the way they have _ cannot continue to do things the way they have always been done. i put they have always been done. i put the same question _ they have always been done. i put the same question to _ they have always been done. i mt the same question to on, the sticking points. owen'sjob really is to look at the minutiae that the

numbers. you have seen it first—hand and you have seen the frustrations. deborah had and you had as a family as well. , , as well. the sad thing is we still see those _ as well. the sad thing is we still see those the _ as well. the sad thing is we still see those the numbers - as well. the sad thing is we still see those the numbers can - as well. the sad thing is we still see those the numbers can be l as well. the sad thing is we still - see those the numbers can be small. my see those the numbers can be small. my wife has taken over quite a lot of the instagram community and we're hearing still is frequently. my husband 33 has been diagnosed with stage iii or state four. stage husband 33 has been diagnosed with stage iii or state four.— stage iii or state four. stage four beini the stage iii or state four. stage four being the highest. _ stage iii or state four. stage four being the highest. we _ stage iii or state four. stage four being the highest. we are - stage iii or state four. stage four being the highest. we are seeingj stage iii or state four. stage four - being the highest. we are seeing too man cases being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of _ being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of you — being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of you are _ being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of you are fit, _ being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of you are fit, you - being the highest. we are seeing too many cases of you are fit, you are i many cases of you are fit, you are healthy. you are a vegetarian, fit and healthy. iam healthy. you are a vegetarian, fit and healthy. i am the one who should have got bowel cancer and not deborah. those are still missing the system somehow. the nhs is under a lot of pressure. we have acknowledged that. when you look at investment in the future, can we get more people trained to help that

early diagnostic? can we get more money put into equipment? just to make it happen uneasy across the country. not the fact you live near a nice city centre and you can get treated. you live in mid wales or the west country where i am from, you have a a0 mile round trip. we have to improve chances for people. and early diagnosis requires a lot of things to happen. people have to present themselves i know about their own bodies because early diagnoses clearly cannot happen unless someone presents themselves. have you seen that change? we unless someone presents themselves. have you seen that change?— have you seen that change? we are seeini a have you seen that change? we are seeing a change. — have you seen that change? we are seeing a change, because _ have you seen that change? we are seeing a change, because people i have you seen that change? we are i seeing a change, because people like deborah _ seeing a change, because people like deborah. her story is so inspirational and so important. check— inspirational and so important. check your two is such an important thing _ check your two is such an important thing to— check your two is such an important thing to say — check your two is such an important thing to say. i check your two is such an important thing to say-— check your two is such an important thing to say. i cannot remember how many times — thing to say. i cannot remember how many times she _ thing to say. i cannot remember how many times she has _ thing to say. i cannot remember how many times she has said _ thing to say. i cannot remember how many times she has said that. - thing to say. i cannot remember how many times she has said that. that l many times she has said that. that is so important _ many times she has said that. that is so important in _ many times she has said that. that is so important in making sure people — is so important in making sure

people are _ is so important in making sure people are aware of those symptoms, checking _ people are aware of those symptoms, checking themselves and making sure they are _ checking themselves and making sure they are aware of their own bodies. what _ they are aware of their own bodies. what would be a good result for you? i know it is immensely personal. what would be a response which you think would mean something has happened, something has been affected? ids, happened, something has been affected? �* , . happened, something has been affected? ~ , . , , affected? a planned campaign brings affected? a planned campaign brings a lot of joined — affected? a planned campaign brings a lot ofioined up _ affected? a planned campaign brings a lot ofjoined up thinking _ affected? a planned campaign brings a lot ofjoined up thinking into - affected? a planned campaign brings a lot ofjoined up thinking into how. a lot ofjoined up thinking into how they are going to treat cancer diagnosis and treatment in the future. early diagnosis saves lives. we are talking about bowel cancer but it kabasele many illnesses. getting people to present and having the ability within the system to strike early. mr; the ability within the system to strike early-— the ability within the system to strike earl . ~ , , , . . strike early. my sense, if a health minister or— strike early. my sense, if a health minister or a _ strike early. my sense, if a health minister or a prospective - strike early. my sense, if a health minister or a prospective health i minister or a prospective health minister or a prospective health minister if there is a new government, they would nod all the way through it and everything you have said and agreeing with you entirely and yet the thing doesn't exist. fist entirely and yet the thing doesn't exist. �* ., . . exist. at the moment we have an increasing — exist. at the moment we have an increasing population _

exist. at the moment we have an increasing population as - exist. at the moment we have an increasing population as well. - exist. at the moment we have an | increasing population as well. the cake is not growing that much. we will have to be clever with what we do and it will have to be thought out as a full strategy. i do and it will have to be thought out as a full strategy.— do and it will have to be thought out as a full strategy. i am sure we will talk again _ out as a full strategy. i am sure we will talk again and _ out as a full strategy. i am sure we will talk again and we _ out as a full strategy. i am sure we will talk again and we will- out as a full strategy. i am sure we will talk again and we will see - out as a full strategy. i am sure wej will talk again and we will see what transpires over time. lovely to see this morning. thank you very much. thank you for having us. morning live follows breakfast on bbc one this morning. let's find out what they have in store with sara and gethin. good morning to you. and company. you are not on the comfy chairs this morning to make you are propped up at the bar. haste morning to make you are propped up at the bar. ~ . . . . at the bar. we were having a chat here and forgot _ at the bar. we were having a chat here and forgot to _ at the bar. we were having a chat here and forgot to go _ at the bar. we were having a chat here and forgot to go over- at the bar. we were having a chat here and forgot to go over there. | here and forgot to go over there. why not? coming up... six months after we launched our stick it to the scammers campaign, 5 million over—sos are still too scared to answer the phone because of fraudsters. rav wilding's calling

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issues including policing, crime, and housing. but it was over the issue of 'pay—per—mile' where the candidates clashed. i have instructed the commissioner to make sure any work announced under borisjohnson is stopped. so when the tory candidate tries to scare londoners in relation to saying what happened. £21 million has been spent already and you know that. you said you would never bring in the ulez— you said you would never bring in the ulez expansion. nobody trusts you any more. in outer london it was brought in with nine — in outer london it was brought in with nine months' _ in outer london it was brought in with nine months' notice - in outer london it was brought in with nine months' notice and - in outer london it was brought in with nine months' notice and it. in outer london it was brought in - with nine months' notice and it made it harder— with nine months' notice and it made it harder for— with nine months' notice and it made it harder for people _ with nine months' notice and it made it harder for people to _ with nine months' notice and it made it harder for people to adapt - with nine months' notice and it made it harder for people to adapt and - it harder for people to adapt and it's important— it harder for people to adapt and it's important we _ it harder for people to adapt and it's important we make - it harder for people to adapt and it's important we make it- it harder for people to adapt and it's important we make it easy. it harder for people to adapt and i it's important we make it easy for people _ it's important we make it easy for people to — it's important we make it easy for people to adapt _ it's important we make it easy for people to adapt environmentally. | this is all about fairness and what i've been saying is i'd have a conversation with londoners about the charging model they want. i think the families you talk about would benefit from a pay per mile system. you can watch the debate — 'a mayor for london' in full,

tonight on bbc1 at 8 o'clock. police are appealing for information about a man who has absconded from detention under the mental health act. a3—year—old matthew barnard has been on escorted leave from a mental health facility in ealing when he disappeared shortly after midday on tuesday. he was last seen at the barclays bank, ealing broadway. medical professionals are concerned he doesn't have medication and the risk he may pose without it. there will be more strike action on london underground this friday and into saturday morning. customer service managers who are members of the tssa union will walk out in a dispute over terms and conditions. tfl said it's disappointed but doesn't expect the action to cause "significant disruption". let's take a look at the tubes now. most lines running well, just one line with — most lines running well, just one line with minor— most lines running well, just one line with minor delays, _ most lines running well, just one line with minor delays, the - most lines running well, just one - line with minor delays, the northern line. now onto the weather with kate kinsella. it is a cold start this morning. we start the day with temperatures in low single figures.

reasonably dry, though bright too, but the cloud is going to start to move in. and with that some showers later on today, those showers could become a little more prolonged, quite heavy towards the evening. temperatures today reaching 13 celsius. the wind coming from the west. so it's not feeling quite so cold as it has for the last few days. now, those showers will fade overnight, becoming largely dry. still a fair amount of cloud, but some clearer spells, especially further north. temperatures there dropping to three celsius. now, low pressure is in charge as we head into friday, but it is looking largely dry. we should get some brighter spells, some sunny spells, variable amounts of cloud through tomorrow, the chance of a shower, temperatures around 12 celsius. now, as we head into the weekend, again, that low pressure stays with us. we'll see some spells of rain for a time. but the temperature, it does start to improve just a little. 1a celsius through the weekend, getting a little warmer into next week. that's it. head to our website to find out about the london school trialling an 11 hour day for some pupils. we're back in half an hour. bye for now.

hello, this is breakfast with charlie stayt and naga munchetty. a former executive of the post office, who has been described as knowing more about the faulty horizon it system than anyone else, will give evidence at the inquiry into the scandal later today. angela van den bogerd was the company's most important witness in the legal action taken by sub postmaster alan bates. breakfast�*s ben boulos is outside the inquiry this morning. what should we expect today? it's a bii da what should we expect today? it's a big day because _ what should we expect today? it's a big day because angela _ what should we expect today? it�*s — big day because angela van den bogerd was a central figure big day because angela van den bogerd was a centralfigure in big day because angela van den bogerd was a central figure in the scandal that ruined hundreds and hundreds of lives. she was a senior

person in charge of it until she left in 2020 and was personally involved in many of the cases that led to the wrongful prosecution is of hundreds of innocent sub—postmaster is wrongly accused of theft. many went to prison. she was also in charge of overseeing the complaints of the sub—postmaster is and in charge of the mediation scheme that was meant to help them and that's why the evidence she gives in there today and tomorrow is so important in terms of finding out what happened and also for those who suffered as a result and the result of the wider affected. we can speak to mark and windy who both had post offices. mark, explainfor to mark and windy who both had post offices. mark, explain for me the

impact it's had on you and why today, hearing from angela van den bogerd matters. mark and wendy. in 2006 i had a sort through my office. the end _ 2006 i had a sort through my office. the end result was my contract was terminated — the end result was my contract was terminated for technical reasons. and after— terminated for technical reasons. and after that i started to become suicidal. _ and after that i started to become suicidal, blaming myself with all of the scandal going on and what i'm looking _ the scandal going on and what i'm looking for, the outcome here, is to finally— looking for, the outcome here, is to finally that — looking for, the outcome here, is to finally that she admits the truth and we — finally that she admits the truth and we can be able to move on from it. a, ,, and we can be able to move on from it. ~ . ,, and we can be able to move on from it. mark, thank you, and we should sa ou it. mark, thank you, and we should say you have _ it. mark, thank you, and we should say you have your— it. mark, thank you, and we should say you have your emotional - it. mark, thank you, and we should. say you have your emotional support dog with you. you say you have your emotional support dog with you-— dog with you. you had gizmo throughout _ dog with you. you had gizmo throughout the _ dog with you. you had gizmo throughout the process - dog with you. you had gizmo throughout the process of i dog with you. you had gizmo| throughout the process of the inquiry. throughout the process of the inui . ~ , ~ . throughout the process of the inui .~ , ~ . . throughout the process of the inui .~ , . . . throughout the process of the inui .~ ,~ . . inquiry. wendy. what are you hoping to hear from — inquiry. wendy. what are you hoping to hear from the _ inquiry. wendy. what are you hoping to hear from the evidence _ inquiry. wendy. what are you hoping to hear from the evidence from - to hear from the evidence from angela van den bogerd? simple. the truth. the real _ angela van den bogerd? simple. the truth. the real truth, _ angela van den bogerd? simple. the truth. the realtruth, not _ angela van den bogerd? simple. the truth. the real truth, not her - truth. the real truth, not her version — truth. the real truth, not her version of— truth. the real truth, not her version of it. i saw her in the gl oh. . , ., ,

oh. that is the high court case. where she _ oh. that is the high court case. where she blatantly _ oh. that is the high court case. | where she blatantly disregarded oh. that is the high court case. - where she blatantly disregarded the truth. �* . ., , truth. and i want to see her swearing — truth. and i want to see her swearing and _ truth. and i want to see her swearing and meaning - truth. and i want to see her swearing and meaning it i truth. and i want to see her| swearing and meaning it and truth. and i want to see her - swearing and meaning it and telling the truth _ swearing and meaning it and telling the truth. do swearing and meaning it and telling the truth. , ., ~ swearing and meaning it and telling the truth. ,, ~ , , the truth. do you think it is fully understood _ the truth. do you think it is fully understood by _ the truth. do you think it is fully understood by angela _ the truth. do you think it is fully understood by angela van - the truth. do you think it is fully understood by angela van den l the truth. do you think it is fully - understood by angela van den bogerd and others the effect this had on you and the long shadow it has cast over your lives? fiat you and the long shadow it has cast over your lives?— over your lives? not at all. i think the are over your lives? not at all. i think they are very _ over your lives? not at all. i think they are very blinkered _ over your lives? not at all. i think they are very blinkered people. i over your lives? not at all. i think i they are very blinkered people. they are only— they are very blinkered people. they are only interested _ they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in— they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in what _ they are very blinkered people. they are only interested in what goes - are only interested in what goes into their— are only interested in what goes into their bank _ are only interested in what goes into their bank accounts - are only interested in what goes into their bank accounts and - are only interested in what goes - into their bank accounts and getting the best— into their bank accounts and getting the bestiob — into their bank accounts and getting the bestiob they— into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can. _ into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can. what- into their bank accounts and getting the best job they can.— the best 'ob they can. what was the im iact the best job they can. what was the im iact on the best job they can. what was the impact on you? _ the best job they can. what was the impact on you? i — the best job they can. what was the impact on you? i lost _ the best job they can. what was the impact on you? i lost my _ the best job they can. what was the impact on you? i lost my post - impact on you? i lost my post office, i lost _ impact on you? i lost my post office, i lost my _ impact on you? i lost my post office, i lost my home, - impact on you? i lost my post office, i lost my home, my i impact on you? i lost my post - office, i lost my home, my mental health— office, i lost my home, my mental health was— office, i lost my home, my mental health was severely— office, i lost my home, my mental health was severely affected. - office, i lost my home, my mental health was severely affected. it's i health was severely affected. it's left me _ health was severely affected. it's left me with _ health was severely affected. it's left me with vibrant _ health was severely affected. it's left me with vibrant myalgia - health was severely affected. it'si left me with vibrant myalgia which means— left me with vibrant myalgia which means i— left me with vibrant myalgia which means i am — left me with vibrant myalgia which means i am in— left me with vibrant myalgia which means i am in constant— left me with vibrant myalgia which means i am in constant pain - left me with vibrant myalgia which means i am in constant pain and l left me with vibrant myalgia which i means i am in constant pain and she has no— means i am in constant pain and she has no idea — means i am in constant pain and she has no idea i'm— means i am in constant pain and she has no idea. i'm hoping _ means i am in constant pain and she has no idea. i'm hoping that - means i am in constant pain and she has no idea. i'm hoping that coming| has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today— has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today makes _ has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today makes her _ has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today makes her feel- has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today makes her feel a - has no idea. i'm hoping that coming here today makes her feel a little i here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly— here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as _ here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as to _ here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as to the _ here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as to the way- here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as to the way we - here today makes her feel a little bit wobbly as to the way we were | bit wobbly as to the way we were when _ bit wobbly as to the way we were when we — bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had _ bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had to _ bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had to go— bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had to go into - bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had to go into a - bit wobbly as to the way we were when we had to go into a court. i bit wobbly as to the way we were i when we had to go into a court. you had a written _

when we had to go into a court. had a written apology from the post office. , , , office. yes, i did, but they couldn't— office. yes, i did, but they couldn't be _ office. yes, i did, but they couldn't be bothered - office. yes, i did, but they couldn't be bothered to i office. yes, i did, but they i couldn't be bothered to spell my name _ couldn't be bothered to spell my name correctly, _ couldn't be bothered to spell my name correctly, so— couldn't be bothered to spell my name correctly, so that - couldn't be bothered to spell my name correctly, so that meant i name correctly, so that meant absolutely _ name correctly, so that meant absolutely nothing. _ name correctly, so that meant absolutely nothing. it's - name correctly, so that meant absolutely nothing. it's on i name correctly, so that meant absolutely nothing. it's on the| name correctly, so that meant i absolutely nothing. it's on the wall in my— absolutely nothing. it's on the wall in my toilet~ — absolutely nothing. it's on the wall in my toilet~ ls _ absolutely nothing. it's on the wall in my toilet-— in my toilet. is anything that haiiens in my toilet. is anything that happens in _ in my toilet. is anything that happens in there _ in my toilet. is anything that happens in there today i in my toilet. is anything that happens in there today and l in my toilet. is anything that - happens in there today and tomorrow going to make a difference to you? it will do if she actually tells the truth _ it will do if she actually tells the truth 0r— it will do if she actually tells the truth or if— it will do if she actually tells the truth. or if she _ it will do if she actually tells the truth. or if she becomes - it will do if she actually tells the truth. or if she becomes as i truth. or if she becomes as forgetful— truth. or if she becomes as forgetful as— truth. or if she becomes as forgetful as everybody- truth. or if she becomes as forgetful as everybody else j truth. or if she becomes as i forgetful as everybody else or truth. or if she becomes as - forgetful as everybody else or she cannot _ forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall— forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall or— forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall or it _ forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall or it wasn't - forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall or it wasn't her- forgetful as everybody else or she cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, i cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, you know. — cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, you know. the _ cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, you know, the same _ cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, you know, the same line - cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, you know, the same line we i cannot recall or it wasn't herjob,| you know, the same line we have cannot recall or it wasn't herjob, - you know, the same line we have been hearing _ you know, the same line we have been hearing from _ you know, the same line we have been hearing from multitudes _ you know, the same line we have been hearing from multitudes of— you know, the same line we have been hearing from multitudes of post - hearing from multitudes of post office _ hearing from multitudes of post office witnesses. _ hearing from multitudes of post office witnesses. then, - hearing from multitudes of post office witnesses. then, no. i hearing from multitudes of post office witnesses. then, no. wendy and mark. — office witnesses. then, no. wendy and mark, thank _ office witnesses. then, no. wendy and mark, thank you _ office witnesses. then, no. wendy and mark, thank you for _ office witnesses. then, no. wendy and mark, thank you for speaking | office witnesses. then, no. wendy i and mark, thank you for speaking to us this morning. we should say that proceedings and there will be covered extensively throughout the day on bbc news and if you want the detail as it happens there is a live page on the bbc news website and just have a look for that and you can follow proceedings as they happen in all that detail. thank you very much- — happen in all that detail. thank you very much. really _ happen in all that detail. thank you very much. really interesting i very much. really interesting hearing from mark and wendy, their first—hand accounts. notjust the

sub—postmaster who were affected. in many cases, their children also had their lives turned upside down. breakfast�*s tim muffett has been to meet some of them. this scandal is so much bigger than people realise. ijust needed to do something for the kids. i want this to be a place where we can all hold each other�*s hand. katie downie launched lost chances for subpostmaster children last month. her dad tony was wrongly accused of theft in the horizon post office scandal and faced financial ruin. upsetm and anger that a system has done that to him. now her campaign group has become a vital source of strength for sons and daughters of others wrongly accused by the post office. i feel very angry that this has happened to my family. i feel angry they accused my mother of these things. my parents have had to live with it. it's affected their entire lives effectively. mohammed's mum doesn't want to talk publicly about what happened. she was a sub postmistress in feltham in west london. faults with the horizon software made it look

like money had gone missing. she and her husband, javid, tried to make up the shortfall. there was a huge debt, which was well over six figures, and this debt was for my parents. they were worried about losing the house. they were worried about bankruptcy. he had a small pension. he cashed out the entire pension. he had all his savings. he had to take out all the savings. and i think he even went to friends and family for loans, which he found incredibly embarrassing. their behaviour was nasty. we suffered a lot. they tried to take over this house as well because we. didn't have the money. it's been extremely difficult for mum. she's had severe health issues because of it. she's still to this day on medication for anxiety, for depression. she's lost friends and she's had

the loss of reputation. how hard was this for you as a child growing up, given what was going on with your parents? dad, i think he found it very difficult to tell us because we're his children. he didn't want to burden us. and so it's only now that we've grown up and become adults that he actually tells us the full extent of it. this group lost chances. how important a role has it played for you? i realised how many children are out there who have gone through exactly what we've gone through in our childhood. and it's been it's been amazing to be able to just speak with them and hear their stories. we can only pray that this never happens again. this is my father's old post office. i used to come home from school and i'd say hello to my dad over here. when it went wrong, it went disastrously wrong. and that's yours. his family still run the shop in oxfordshire, in which their post office once operated. in 2011, his dad, vipin, was wrongly convicted

of fraud following apparent shortfalls of £75,000. faulty software had been responsible. the last 13 years have been hellish. i've lost my savings. i couldn't afford to keep up with my degree because the family finances weren't good. it was a question of helping mum and dad, orfacing disaster as a family. my major achievement of life, of being a trusted, honest, upstanding citizen of community or pillar of community was trashed by post office's corporate greed. posters — wanted dead or alive. that was stuck up on our shop door. outside the shop, this wreath appeared. a lot of local opposition and resentment, we came near to complete financial ruin. how important has lost chances been for you? i believe it's an important group.

it's a space where you can speak about your ordeal, how things went badly for us children of subpostmasters, even if currently the law doesn't permit it for secondary victims, there is a moral case for us children to receive some compensation. has anyone from the post office ever said sorry to you? no. more than 120 relatives of post office victims are now in contact with each other thanks to this group offering solace, support and advice to others caught up in this scandal. tim muffett, bbc news. it was a voyage like no other. a team of british sailors have made history by becoming the first all—female crew win an around the world yacht race. the crew of the 'maiden' set sail from cowes in the isle of wight in september. after spending the last seven months at sea, they finally returned to the uk last week. after a nervous wait, they were given the gold. our correspondent

ellie price has more. even tower bridge looked like it was saluting them before they left last summer. now after 153 days and 28,500 nautical miles, maiden and her 12 woman crew have come home. cheering. and they only went and did it. the first time an all women crew had won around the world yacht race. and the skipper, heather thomas, did it all by navigating the old fashioned way, as race rules meant no modern technology was allowed. so you have a really in—depth understanding of the sun, the moon, the planets and the stars and the weather around you. so it's quite a pure way of sailing. the yacht took part in a parade of sail on saturday, so it was joined by a flotilla of other boats

to cheer her on as she came into southampton. maiden knew the routine well. she enjoyed the same homecoming way back in 1990 when she finished another round the world race. that time, she was skippered by tracy edwards, the first time an all women crew had taken part in the challenge. people say, is it a bit weird not being on the boat? it's actually not because i look at this amazing crew and i look at them sailing my boat and it feels very right. so the whole thing is just been amazing. has just been amazing. divided into four legs, the 1a yachts in this race stopped at cape town, auckland and punta del esta before heading back to the isle of wight. and if that wasn't hard enough, maiden had just spent six years touring the world, spreading the word about education for girls. the duchess of york, sarah ferguson, has been involved in the maiden project for several decades, too. it doesn't matter. no race, creed, colour orany denomination, nojudgment. we are united to make a planet better for the youth of today. and that is maiden.

the yacht arrived back safely more than a week ago. but because of the complicated handicap system and waiting for other competitors to return, the crew onlyjust found out they had won. so the celebrations won't be over any time soon. ellie price, bbc news. we're nowjoined by three people who were on board the maiden — the skipper heather thomas, the engineer ami hopkins and the camera operator najiba noori. hello to you. beautiful morning where you are. however, can i start with you, because you were the skipper on board and you are now the youngest female skipper to have completed a round the world race. number one, how does it feel? and two, how important was it that it was on the maiden?— two, how important was it that it was on the maiden? yes, i am very hai i . was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy- it's — was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy- it's all— was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy- it's all a _ was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy. it's all a bit _ was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy. it's all a bit surreal - was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy. it's all a bit surreal at i was on the maiden? yes, i am very happy. it's all a bit surreal at the i happy. it's all a bit surreal at the moment coming off the boat with no

technology to quite a lot of media attention which is quite surreal. and it's the first boat to have an all—female crew going around the world, so doing it on this boat is really important to me and i love the boat a lot and i will miss her. what is so important about the maiden, because early on when you started in a dengue, and working on the dinghies, and then he went on a flotilla and were teaching in the caribbean but the maiden has always been something you admired. yeah. been something you admired. yeah, it's kind of the _ been something you admired. yeah, it's kind of the first _ been something you admired. yeah, it's kind of the first all-female i it's kind of the first all—female crew to sail and around the world race back where women weren't really accepted in racing, so it's quite an influential boat and inspired a generation of women, and that is what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the — what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. _

what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. can _ what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. can i _ what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. can i ask- what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. can i ask you i what we hope to do as well. charlie here in the studio. can i ask you a i here in the studio. can i ask you a question, ami. an amazing achievement and you broken records, but on a personal level we are fascinated by what goes on in amongst a team. it was annoying and who has annoying habits? is there a little tale you can tell us or is there a rule if it happens on the boat, you don't talk about it. good mornin. boat, you don't talk about it. good morning- yes _ boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there _ boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there is _ boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there is sort - boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there is sort of- boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there is sort of a i boat, you don't talk about it. good morning. yes there is sort of a rule that if— morning. yes there is sort of a rule that if it _ morning. yes there is sort of a rule that if it happens on the boat you don't _ that if it happens on the boat you don't talk— that if it happens on the boat you don't talk about it, but as you can imagine _ don't talk about it, but as you can imagine there's a lot of personalities and we buzz off each other _ personalities and we buzz off each other and — personalities and we buzz off each other and we have a great time. that's— other and we have a great time. that's very— other and we have a great time. that's very diplomatic. tiers; that's very diplomatic. very diplomatic. _ that's very diplomatic. very diplomatic, ami. _ that's very diplomatic. very| diplomatic, ami. sometimes that's very diplomatic. very diplomatic, ami. sometimes you have to sit on— diplomatic, ami. sometimes you have to sit on the _ diplomatic, ami. sometimes you have to sit on the fence. you diplomatic, ami. sometimes you have to sit on the fence.— to sit on the fence. you are perched firml on to sit on the fence. you are perched firmly on it- — to sit on the fence. you are perched firmly on it. najiba, _ to sit on the fence. you are perched firmly on it. najiba, you _ to sit on the fence. you are perched firmly on it. najiba, you were - firmly on it. najiba, you were brought in as camera operator, so let's rephrase this, was there anything you are told that you have not seen the light of day, something you have filmed? let's twist the

question around, shall we. i can hean question around, shall we. i can hear- for— question around, shall we. i can hear- for me. — question around, shall we. i can hear. for me, it _ question around, shall we. i can hear. for me, it was _ question around, shall we. i can hear. for me, it was an - question around, shall we. i can hear. for me, it was an incredible journey— hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and — hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i _ hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i enjoyed _ hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i enjoyed it _ hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i enjoyed it a - hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i enjoyed it a lot- hear. for me, it was an incredible journey and i enjoyed it a lot and| hear. for me, it was an incrediblej journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found _ journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found peace — journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found peace and _ journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found peace and freedom - journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found peace and freedom in- journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i found peace and freedom in the i journey and i enjoyed it a lot and i- found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was _ found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was a _ found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was a camera— found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was a camera person _ found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was a camera person so - found peace and freedom in the ocean and i was a camera person so i - and i was a camera person so i enjoyed _ and i was a camera person so i enjoyed filming _ and i was a camera person so i enjoyed filming every - and i was a camera person so i| enjoyed filming every moment, and i was a camera person so i i enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the _ enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the sky, — enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the sky, the _ enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the sky, the moon, _ enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the sky, the moon, so- enjoyed filming every moment, the sea, the sky, the moon, so i- enjoyed filming every moment, the i sea, the sky, the moon, so i enjoyed it a lot _ sea, the sky, the moon, so i en'oyed ita lot. �* sea, the sky, the moon, so i en'oyed it a lot. �* ., ., , ~ it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami is not there. _ it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami is not there, is _ it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami is not there, is she _ it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami is not there, is she a _ it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami is not there, is she a sikh - it a lot. i'm going to pretend ami i is not there, is she a sikh shouting skipper because i imagine there are times they lay down the law —— is she a shouting skipper. give us a sense of the way she is skippering? heather, she is quite a quiet skipper— heather, she is quite a quiet skipper and _ heather, she is quite a quiet skipper and gets _ heather, she is quite a quiet skipper and gets on with i heather, she is quite a quiet i skipper and gets on with things heather, she is quite a quiet - skipper and gets on with things and comes— skipper and gets on with things and comes on— skipper and gets on with things and comes on deck— skipper and gets on with things and comes on deck and _ skipper and gets on with things and comes on deck and sales _ skipper and gets on with things and comes on deck and sales like - skipper and gets on with things and comes on deck and sales like the i comes on deck and sales like the crew _ comes on deck and sales like the crew she — comes on deck and sales like the crew sheiumps_ comes on deck and sales like the crew. she jumps on _ comes on deck and sales like the crew. she jumps on and - comes on deck and sales like the crew. she jumps on and will- comes on deck and sales like the crew. she jumps on and will do i

crew. she jumps on and will do anything — crew. she jumps on and will do anything. which— crew. she jumps on and will do anything. which is— crew. she jumps on and will do anything. which is quite - crew. she jumps on and will do anything. which is quite useful| crew. she jumps on and will do i anything. which is quite useful to have _ anything. which is quite useful to have on— anything. which is quite useful to have on a — anything. which is quite useful to have on a boat. _ anything. which is quite useful to have on a boat. yeah, _ anything. which is quite useful to have on a boat. yeah, i— anything. which is quite useful to have on a boat. yeah, ithink- anything. which is quite useful to have on a boat. yeah, i think shej anything. which is quite useful to. have on a boat. yeah, i think she is quite _ have on a boat. yeah, i think she is quite a _ have on a boat. yeah, i think she is quite a good — have on a boat. yeah, i think she is quite a good skipper, _ have on a boat. yeah, i think she is quite a good skipper, mostly. - quite a good skipper, mostly. thanks. — quite a good skipper, mostly. thanks, mate. _ quite a good skipper, mostly. thanks, mate.— quite a good skipper, mostly. thanks, mate. some faint praise there. thanks, mate. some faint praise there- it's _ thanks, mate. some faint praise there- it's an _ thanks, mate. some faint praise there. it's an amazing _ thanks, mate. some faint praise i there. it's an amazing achievement. where do you think this kind go in terms of what you have achieved and what others will see in what you have done by way of inspiration? yeah, we hope it will inspire the next generation of sailors but also the next generation of women to dream big and work hard to achieve those goals and that is kind of our goal as a foundation, to give girls education and give them the ability to dream big and see that they can achieve those goals. i’tre to dream big and see that they can achieve those goals.— to dream big and see that they can achieve those goals. i've got to ask ou, achieve those goals. i've got to ask you. seven — achieve those goals. i've got to ask you, seven months _ achieve those goals. i've got to ask you, seven months at _ achieve those goals. i've got to ask you, seven months at sea. - achieve those goals. i've got to ask you, seven months at sea. what i achieve those goals. i've got to ask. you, seven months at sea. what was the thing you really, really missed, and you know, when you came back down—to—earth, back on terra firma, what was the one thing you really needed to have? i

what was the one thing you really needed to have?— needed to have? i think it was mostly food — needed to have? i think it was mostly food -related - needed to have? i think it was mostly food -related more i needed to have? i think it was i mostly food -related more than mostly food —related more than anything. we missed ourfriends and family, obviously, but we had a limited diet on the boat, so we really enjoyed the food when we got to land. really en'oyed the food when we got to land. . ~ really en'oyed the food when we got to land. . «i i. really en'oyed the food when we got to land. . «i ,, , really en'oyed the food when we got to land. . «i , . to land. thank you very much. heather. _ to land. thank you very much. heather. can _ to land. thank you very much. heather, can you _ to land. thank you very much. heather, can you order - to land. thank you very much. heather, can you order the i to land. thank you very much. i heather, can you order the other guysin heather, can you order the other guys in the background to give us a wave. are you able to order them? guys, will you give us a wave? there we io. guys, will you give us a wave? there we go- everyone _ guys, will you give us a wave? there we go. everyone involved. _ we go. everyone involved. congratulations and a beautiful sunny day down there, so, enjoy. thank you very much. sunny day down there, so, en'oy. thank you very much.i sunny day down there, so, en'oy. thank you very much. thank you for having us- — thank you very much. thank you for having us. carroll, _ thank you very much. thank you for having us. carroll, who _ thank you very much. thank you for having us. carroll, who said - thank you very much. thank you for having us. carroll, who said there i thank you very much. thank you for l having us. carroll, who said there l having us. carroll, who said there would be limited sunshine but you managed to pop some down there. it’s managed to pop some down there. it's a managed to pop some down there. it�*s a mixture today of bright spells and sunny intervals and some showers and some of the showers, good morning by the way, have been wintry and you can see some sleet falling in

aberdeenshire and the wintry nurse has been across the hills and mountains of scotland and also northern england and its been courtesy of this weather frontier which is continuing to slip steadily southwards and brighter skies follow with fewer showers across northern england and northern ireland and scotland through the afternoon. talking of the afternoon, some of the showers in london and west london and southern counties could prove to be sharp and it will see a lot of cloud with brighter breaks but brightening up in northern ireland and the wintry showers persisting across the north east. it's not as windy as it what yes —— as it was yesterday with temperatures between seven and 13 degrees but it will still feel cold if you are out and about. through the evening and overnight the showers clear away from the south east and we have some coming in from the channel islands and through the south west and south—west wales and still some wintry nurse on the tops of the mountains across north—east scotland, but a lot of clear skies that will allow the temperature to

drop and we are looking at a widespread frost anywhere between north wales and the north midlands northwards, so bear that in mind if you've been in the garden recently. as we had into tomorrow, a lot of dry weather to start with. some sunshine, but cloud bubbling up through the days and with a weather front close to the south of england on the channel islands we will see the heaviest rain and the temperatures between eight and 13 degrees, north to south. it's just a few months to go until the world's biggest and longest running classical music festival take places — the bbc proms. this year's line up includes pop star sam smith, who will rub shoulders with beethoven and bach. the indie rock singer florence welch will make her debut. there will also be the first ever disco prom and a brand new doctor who prom. we'll speak to katie derham in a moment, who will be hosting the proms. but first, lets see some

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there we are. tapping her knee. katie's here now. it's all kicking off, guys, it's that time of year.— it's all kicking off, guys, it's that time of year. shall we say there is controversy _ that time of year. shall we say there is controversy around i that time of year. shall we say i there is controversy around this, people suggesting, why sam smith at the proms? because turn the clock back ten or 20 years, pick a moment and that would have been a different occasion. we and that would have been a different occasion. ~ .. and that would have been a different occasion. ~ . «i . «i occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and — occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and 20 _ occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and 20 years _ occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and 20 years on _ occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and 20 years on the - occasion. we can turn the clock back hundred and 20 years on the whole i hundred and 20 years on the whole idea of the proms was to bring the best music to as many people for the least money and that is what it still does. we have 90 concerts, and it's always two months of

world—class music—making at the royal albert hall and beyond and classical music in all the variety but it does have jazz, world music, folk and it also has some of these really interesting collaborations. we had a david bowie proms and lastly we have a northern soul proms and that was amazing, absolutely spectacular. this isn't anything new at all and what we have two amazing p0p at all and what we have two amazing pop artist, florence welch and sam smith, who are both giving their own prom with orchestral arrangements of their debut albums and it's going to be epic. they are both fantastic musicians and we will see and hear them with orchestras. it's an entry point and a different way of getting people into consoles to hear orchestral music. it’s people into consoles to hear orchestral music.— people into consoles to hear orchestral music. it's a really interesting — orchestral music. it's a really interesting entry _ orchestral music. it's a really interesting entry point - orchestral music. it's a really interesting entry point and i orchestral music. it's a really i interesting entry point and that's a good way of putting it —— into concert halls. it's like when you

watch classic films with a live orchestra, and people say i don't want to see a live orchestra because it saw beethoven and bach and mozart. mi it saw beethoven and bach and mozart. �* , . ., , it saw beethoven and bach and mozart-— iziuti it saw beethoven and bach and i mozart._ but for mozart. all my favourites. but for ieo i le mozart. all my favourites. but for people who _ mozart. all my favourites. but for people who are — mozart. all my favourites. but for people who are scared _ mozart. all my favourites. but for people who are scared of - mozart. all my favourites. but for people who are scared of bicycle l people who are scared of bicycle music but when you see it performed with an orchestra —— scared of classical music but when you see performed with an orchestra it is so much more accessible. you performed with an orchestra it is so much more accessible.— performed with an orchestra it is so much more accessible. you have that wonderful live _ much more accessible. you have that wonderful live music _ much more accessible. you have that wonderful live music and _ much more accessible. you have that wonderful live music and sharing i wonderful live music and sharing that with a big audience which is something difficult to replicate and we do our best on radio three and the television coverage but if you can be there in the flesh, it is amazing. can be there in the flesh, it is amazing-— can be there in the flesh, it is amazinu. �* ~ ,, , , a, amazing. but i think the artists are almost bigger— amazing. but i think the artists are almost bigger with _ amazing. but i think the artists are almost bigger with an _ amazing. but i think the artists are almost bigger with an orchestra . almost bigger with an orchestra behind them. i’m almost bigger with an orchestra behind them.— almost bigger with an orchestra behind them. i'm not saying they don't ut behind them. i'm not saying they don't put 10096 — behind them. i'm not saying they don't put 10094. into _ behind them. i'm not saying they don't put 100% into every - don't put 100% into every performance. when there is an orchestra it is most adds to it. it's pretty serious at that point and they do loving and you hear it from the performers, notjust with the orchestra but there's something special about the proms audience

because you have literally a thousand people standing in front of you, and especially in the classical tradition is less than usual, we don't have many mosh pits, so too have that engaged and focused audience in a beautiful venue like the royal albert hall is really special for the orchestra and solo musicians and it really does carry across. but i should say, this year more than many, it's notjust at the albert hall, it is out there around the country and it's something we've done more in the last few years. gateshead, a big weekend residency at the glasshouse. the newly renovated beacon in bristol and in nottingham as well. hoar renovated beacon in bristol and in nottingham as well.— nottingham as well. how does it work? it's _ nottingham as well. how does it work? it's the _ nottingham as well. how does it work? it's the same _ nottingham as well. how does it work? it's the same sort - nottingham as well. how does it work? it's the same sort of - nottingham as well. how does it - work? it's the same sort of concerts but different — work? it's the same sort of concerts but different venues, _ work? it's the same sort of concerts but different venues, so _ work? it's the same sort of concerts but different venues, so if— work? it's the same sort of concerts but different venues, so if you - but different venues, so if you can't get down to london to experience the proms, you have a chance of seeing it around the country so if you get the programme which has launched today, see what you can find you will see various weekends through the season from

mid—july to mid—september there will be these residencies in different cities. 1? be these residencies in different cities. ' ' ., , ., , cities. 17 different regions outside of london- _ cities. 17 different regions outside of london. it's _ cities. 17 different regions outside of london. it's been _ cities. 17 different regions outside of london. it's been a _ cities. 17 different regions outside of london. it's been a long - cities. 17 different regions outside of london. it's been a long time l of london. it's been a long time coming. i of london. it's been a long time cominu. ~ �* , of london. it's been a long time cominu. ~ �*, ., ., coming. i think it's a wonderful development — coming. i think it's a wonderful development and _ coming. i think it's a wonderful development and it's _ coming. i think it's a wonderful development and it's been - coming. i think it's a wonderful i development and it's been going coming. i think it's a wonderful - development and it's been going down really well. i don't think you can ever knock the glorious atmosphere of the royal albert hall, because it is phenomenal but it's wonderful to have that calibre of music around the country. have that calibre of music around the country-— the country. there are a lot of --eole the country. there are a lot of people who — the country. there are a lot of people who will _ the country. there are a lot of people who will have - the country. there are a lot of people who will have never i the country. there are a lot of. people who will have never heard the country. there are a lot of - people who will have never heard an orchestra live. if you are trying to encapsulate that moment may be through television and that is how people can get the moment, but in the room, in the royal albert hall, and you hear them warming up a little bit traditionally. the tuning. do you get a sense of that? i want to say it is electric, but it's not. they are acoustic. there is a wonderful, and it sounds like a cliche, but there is a special energy about hearing those musicians

playing together, the common purpose, if you like and music is transporting and transforms you and takes you to different places and really affect your mood and depending on the music which you love, it might remind you of places you have been or a film you loved when you were a kid. this year we have the doctor who prom, and may be something you loved on tv and you would hide behind the sofa as a kid, and with the themes of the daleks coming for you hear the music live, and all of those musicians playing live to such a high standard, the vibrations in the air are very, very special. vibrations in the air are very, very secial. �* , ., special. it's quite wonderful watchin: special. it's quite wonderful watching an _ special. it's quite wonderful watching an orchestra - special. it's quite wonderful watching an orchestra when i special. it's quite wonderful - watching an orchestra when you see all of the eyes on the conductor and you have this maestro at the front, but also you see them enjoying each other�*s sections and you see when they are playing something popular that they know will get the crowd

going, you see their enthusiasm and then moving to the music, which you cannot have when only hearing it, so it is very special.— it is very special. there is that sort of thing. _ it is very special. there is that sort of thing, it's _ it is very special. there is that sort of thing, it's like - it is very special. there is that sort of thing, it's like when i it is very special. there is that| sort of thing, it's like when you see a flock of starlings, it is that gorgeous coordinated synchronised movements and sense of purpose and unified intention. it is glorious. we have 90 concerts in order to experience that. find we have 90 concerts in order to experience that.— we have 90 concerts in order to experience that. and we all love a conductor- — experience that. and we all love a conductor. they _ experience that. and we all love a conductor. they are _ experience that. and we all love a conductor. they are big _ experience that. and we all love a l conductor. they are big characters. you must have met plenty. i’zre conductor. they are big characters. you must have met plenty. i've even had a no you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at — you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at doing _ you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at doing it _ you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at doing it myself. - you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at doing it myself. how- you must have met plenty. i've even had a go at doing it myself. how did | had a go at doing it myself. how did it go? i think i would pay money to see the others. the ones we are talking about this year. share see the others. the ones we are talking about this year.- talking about this year. are they larr er talking about this year. are they larger than _ talking about this year. are they larger than life _ talking about this year. are they larger than life characters? - talking about this year. are they| larger than life characters? there is a bit of a _ larger than life characters? there is a bit of a myth _ larger than life characters? there is a bit of a myth about _ larger than life characters? there is a bit of a myth about the - is a bit of a myth about the maestro, they come in all shapes and sizes but it is a very particular job. you have 70 or 80 highly talented and opinionated musicians and you have to convince them within

and you have to convince them within a secular standing on the podium that this is the way you would like them to play this music. —— within a second off standing. we've simon rattle and the new one who's getting all the big gigs at the moment. there will be a lot of amazing people performing and conducting this year. you know me, i would be talking for hours about it. you have set it up very well. you are very kind- — you have set it up very well. you are very kind. lovely _ you have set it up very well. you are very kind. lovely to - you have set it up very well. you are very kind. lovely to be - you have set it up very well. you are very kind. lovely to be here. | the bbc proms starts on friday 19july. you are presumably on all the way through. you are presumably on all the way throuuh. , , , you are presumably on all the way throuuh. , ,, ., you are presumably on all the way throuuh. , ,, . ., you are presumably on all the way throuuh. , , , ., ., . through. dipping in and out, me and m ”an. through. dipping in and out, me and my gang- enioy- _ through. dipping in and out, me and my gang- enjoy- the _ through. dipping in and out, me and my gang. enjoy. the headlines - through. dipping in and out, me and my gang. enjoy. the headlines are l my gang. en'oy. the headlines are cominu my gang. en'oy. the headlines are coming up. —

live from london. this is bbc news. scotland's first minister calls an emergency cabinet meeting amid speculation about the future of the snp's power—sharing deal with the scottish greens. it's a big day at the post office inquiry — a former executive described as knowing more about a faulty it system than anyone else is giving evidence. top us diplomat antony blinken is in china — he says washington and beijing should manage their differences responsibly. and venice becomes the first city in the world to charge day trippers for entry in an effort to tackle over tourism. hello. we start this hour with a big political development in scotland.