shouldn't us death sentences, we shouldn't have to be up for scans. there should be best practised throughout the country, not a lottery of what hospital you go to. until that is put in place for the infected, and hopefully if it is put in place and may prevent some early deaths, then money is nothing and talk is nothing. we need to have that input as well, the medical input.— as well, the medical input. another ke oint as well, the medical input. another key point moving — as well, the medical input. another key point moving forward _ as well, the medical input. another key point moving forward as - key point moving forward as education of the medical profession because people haven't been informed about it. it hasn't been part of the medical training and that has caused huge problems for a community because the average medic does not understand what happened to them. i think all of that needs to be put on and implemented.—

and implemented. going forward, eo - le and implemented. going forward, peeple that _ and implemented. going forward, people that have _ and implemented. going forward, people that have blood _ and implemented. going forward, l people that have blood transfusions now, my daughter had them regularly as a renal patient, i was told by a reporter who lost a son with cjd there is a disclaimer of the blood bags not saying if you have this blood you may have pathogens. a disclaimer on the plot back that you're not told about is nothing, that's just trying to prevent another inquiry like this 30 or a0 years down the line. they need to be informing people giving them choices. not always as a blood transfusion necessary. but at least tell the patients that are receiving them the rest that they are taking so that you can choose. i them the rest that they are taking so that you can choose.— so that you can choose. i think it is the fact _ so that you can choose. i think it is the fact that _ so that you can choose. i think it is the fact that joe _ so that you can choose. i think it is the fact that joe bryan - so that you can choose. i think it is the fact that joe bryan has - is the fact thatjoe bryan has pointed to the lack of candour and openness by the state on this issue and that all needs to change and institution shouldn't just say they

are working within those rules because that is evident it isn't happening. it is ministers that are involved, right the way through the state, complete failure. if there hadn't been a cover—up we wouldn't all be sitting here a0 years later during tests and we wouldn't have lost all the people we have. fix, lost all the people we have. a couple of things you have said you have not learnt anything you didn't already know. is there anything new in this that you didn't know that you have discovered? also, from what you have discovered? also, from what you have discovered? also, from what you have been saying, a lot of what will be required to take this forward will be up to the devolved governments? how do you want to see

them work together with the governments in scotland, wales and northern ireland to deal with some of the things you have been talking about? the of the things you have been talking about? ., ., ., ., ., about? the government to scotland to the credit setun _ about? the government to scotland to the credit setup they _ about? the government to scotland to the credit setup they infected - about? the government to scotland to the credit setup they infected blood i the credit setup they infected blood support scheme. they were the forerunners of that. that has been a godsend to people, having that amount of money coming in, they know they are going to get it, it is like getting a salary, these people can have a salary because they are not well enough to work, so they have set up the skin that has been working very well. where we go from there with the devolved government, i wouldn't guess, but we are hoping that things can go on as they are for the foreseeable future. people

are dependents. it is given them a security, people who have lost their jobs, people not well enough to work, they didn't have any financial security any more. they couldn't get insurance, mortgages. this is given them something that has to be sustained for their mental welfare as much as their physical welfare. when i spoke to minister glen in belfast _ when i spoke to minister glen in belfast with two of my colleagues, we pressed him on giving statutory cover_ we pressed him on giving statutory cover for— we pressed him on giving statutory cover for the daily living allowance that he _ cover for the daily living allowance that he provides on a monthly and quarterly— that he provides on a monthly and quarterly basis. the authority for that will— quarterly basis. the authority for that will hand over to the independent authority compensation authority— independent authority compensation authority and legislation will change _ authority and legislation will change and their respective regions to accommodate that. we have the

business _ to accommodate that. we have the business services organisation. that works_ business services organisation. that works very— business services organisation. that works very well for us. we have established in conjunction with the department of health at practical stakeholders group which i have had the opportunity to chair, and is co-chaired _ the opportunity to chair, and is co—chaired by one of the senior civil_ co—chaired by one of the senior civil servants he deals specifically with infected blood. we have a good working _ with infected blood. we have a good working relationship. the health committee and northern ireland wants to work_ committee and northern ireland wants to work along in partnership with the victims and i have been asked to address— the victims and i have been asked to address them in relation to the victims — address them in relation to the victims views on the victims and prisoners— victims views on the victims and prisoners legislation and how that will he _ prisoners legislation and how that will be applied in northern ireland. the legislation primarily for prisoners etc most uk based, but it was england dan way is, so artists health— was england dan way is, so artists health department and a minister for

health— health department and a minister for health and _ health department and a minister for health and our committee have been working _ health and our committee have been working closely along with their cells _ working closely along with their cells and — working closely along with their cells and lobbying at westminster to try to _ cells and lobbying at westminster to try to make positive things happen, so we _ try to make positive things happen, so we are _ try to make positive things happen, so we are included in the uk process are not— so we are included in the uk process are not excluded. that applies in both— are not excluded. that applies in both scotland and northern ireland. our assembly has different rules and 0ur assembly has different rules and regulations, different capacity to provide — regulations, different capacity to provide its own source of income, so we want _ provide its own source of income, so we want to _ provide its own source of income, so we want to see the continuation of the commitment to the victims that this minister robin swann has shown and the _ this minister robin swann has shown and the health committee is currently sets. that will give us confidence in the local work at the assembly— confidence in the local work at the assembly is doing to include us in this process as they take the responsibility. in this process as they take the responsibility.— this process as they take the resonsibili . . . , ., responsibility. in wales, we would like sir bryan's _ responsibility. in wales, we would like sir bryan's interim _ responsibility. in wales, we would like sir bryan's interim support - like sir bryan's interim support recommended _ like sir bryan's interim support recommended on... _ like sir bryan's interim support recommended on... we - like sir bryan's interim support recommended on... we don't. like sir bryan's interim support - recommended on... we don't know what the government— recommended on... we don't know what the government will— recommended on... we don't know what the government will do _ recommended on... we don't know what the government will do with _ recommended on... we don't know what the government will do with that - recommended on... we don't know what the government will do with that and - the government will do with that and that will— the government will do with that and that will give — the government will do with that and that will give us_ the government will do with that and that will give us many— the government will do with that and that will give us many sleepless - that will give us many sleepless nights — that will give us many sleepless nights i— that will give us many sleepless nights i met— that will give us many sleepless

nights. i met with _ that will give us many sleepless nights. i met withjohn- that will give us many sleepless nights. i met withjohn glen - that will give us many sleeplessj nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks _ nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago — nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and _ nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and i _ nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and i took _ nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and i took the - nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and i took the list - nights. i met withjohn glen two weeks ago and i took the list ofl nights. i met with john glen two i weeks ago and i took the list of the 28 people _ weeks ago and i took the list of the 28 people who _ weeks ago and i took the list of the 28 people who had _ weeks ago and i took the list of the 28 people who had never— weeks ago and i took the list of the 28 people who had never been - 28 people who had never been included — 28 people who had never been included in _ 28 people who had never been included in a _ 28 people who had never been included in a scheme, - 28 people who had never been included in a scheme, never. 28 people who had never been . included in a scheme, never given any compensation _ included in a scheme, never given any compensation and _ included in a scheme, never givenl any compensation and sub—prime's recommendations— any compensation and sub—prime's recommendations is— any compensation and sub—prime's recommendations is that _ any compensation and sub—prime's recommendations is that those - recommendations is that those payments— recommendations is that those payments should _ recommendations is that those payments should be _ recommendations is that those payments should be made - recommendations is that those payments should be made to l recommendations is that those i payments should be made to the support— payments should be made to the support scheme _ payments should be made to the support scheme so _ payments should be made to the support scheme so there - payments should be made to the support scheme so there is - payments should be made to the support scheme so there is no i payments should be made to the i support scheme so there is no delay and the _ support scheme so there is no delay and the government— support scheme so there is no delay and the government needs - support scheme so there is no delay and the government needs to- support scheme so there is no delay and the government needs to not. and the government needs to not delay— and the government needs to not delay this — and the government needs to not delay this and _ and the government needs to not delay this and wait _ and the government needs to not delay this and wait for _ and the government needs to not delay this and wait for the - and the government needs to notl delay this and wait for the scheme to he _ delay this and wait for the scheme to he set— delay this and wait for the scheme to he set up— delay this and wait for the scheme to he set up so— delay this and wait for the scheme to be set up so the _ delay this and wait for the scheme to be set up so the parents- delay this and wait for the scheme to be set up so the parents of- delay this and wait for the scheme to be set up so the parents of thei to be set up so the parents of the 380 children— to be set up so the parents of the 380 children can _ to be set up so the parents of the 380 children can get _ to be set up so the parents of the 380 children can get the - to be set up so the parents of thel 380 children can get the payments quickly— 380 children can get the payments quickly and — 380 children can get the payments quickly and the _ 380 children can get the payments quickly and the children _ 380 children can get the payments quickly and the children who - 380 children can get the payments quickly and the children who lost l quickly and the children who lost their— quickly and the children who lost their fathers, _ quickly and the children who lost theirfathers, and— quickly and the children who lost theirfathers, and i— quickly and the children who lost their fathers, and i think- quickly and the children who lost their fathers, and i think that. quickly and the children who lost their fathers, and i think that is. their fathers, and i think that is an urgent— their fathers, and i think that is an urgent requirement. - we have moved away from the news conference now. the news conference

was another example of the outpouring of feeling now that report has been released. joining me now is clive smith. you have been campaigning for the so many years. what emotions are you feeling? b. many years. what emotions are you feelin: ? �* ., ., ., feeling? a roller-coaster of emotions _ feeling? a roller-coaster of emotions. sadness, - feeling? a roller-coaster of - emotions. sadness, bitterness, regret for the people not here. and for the people who find it too painful to be here today. even for those who are here today they found it too hard to read the report. the findings and the words are so hard hitting for the community that it has been very traumatic for them. 0verall, people feel vindicated, for decades they have been telling the government this shouldn't have happened and their loved ones shouldn't have died and that is exactly the conclusion that sir

brian langstaff said today. mas brian langstaff said today. was there anything _ brian langstaff said today. was there anything in _ brian langstaff said today. was there anything in the report that surprised you? the there anything in the report that surprised you?— surprised you? the end of the re ort. surprised you? the end of the report- sir _ surprised you? the end of the report. sir brian _ surprised you? the end of the report. sir brian langstaff- surprised you? the end of the| report. sir brian langstaff said that in 12 months the government has to have a report to say how they have implemented the recommendations. we have never seen that before. what sir brian langstaff are saying is like this community who have said we don't trust the government, we don't trust the civil servants or politicians, he is saying the same, i he is saying i don't trust you either. you lost a friend in this entire scandal, his name was stewart. anyone who watched the bbc panorama programme recently would have seen stewart's story. he had the factor

viii treatment in the early 1980s. what we saw on that panorama is that there were warnings about it. and yet those warnings were not heeded and stewart and others continue to receive that treatment. we died at 27. around 1250 people were affected in 380 of them are children and plenty of them have sadly died. 0ne 380 of them are children and plenty of them have sadly died. one of the devastating findings of the report is that even children produced as test subjects, they were experimented with no discernible benefits to the patient, but they were simply used as test subjects by doctors and their were seemingly considered to be dispensable and thatis considered to be dispensable and that is how they were treated, as commodities, not human beings. that is one of the things that this inquiry has shown, the humanity that has been shown to the community,

which has been a scarce resource. what happens next? there has been a lot of focus on compensation. ladle lot of focus on compensation. we exect a lot of focus on compensation. - expect a statement in the house of commons tomorrow at around 1230 tomorrow. we expect that to go quite far in terms of setting out the details of levels of compensation, bats sir brian langstaff recommended last may that a compensation body should be set up and here we are now still talking about it. this is one of the reasons why sir brian langstaff doesn't trust the government. we expect interim payments to be made, which should take the total runs about £800 million. we expect the bill to be somewhere in the region of £10 billion. they need to set up this body, start giving people the money now. people are still dying at a rate of one every four days. this is causing grievous harm and distress

to his people. the government does need to get on with it now.- need to get on with it now. people have said that _ need to get on with it now. people have said that today's _ need to get on with it now. people have said that today's report - need to get on with it now. people have said that today's report does| have said that today's report does bring some sense of closure. there will never truly be closure because it is notjust the people who were treated using factor eight, it is the people who had the transfusions, the people who had the transfusions, the family members were also impacted. it the family members were also im acted. , ., ., ., impacted. it is the generational harm that this _ impacted. it is the generational harm that this has _ impacted. it is the generational harm that this has caused. - impacted. it is the generational. harm that this has caused. stuart's mum and dad, his sister, his nieces, he will not be there —— be there for major milestones in their life. the generational harm this has caused a significant and it continues. that is why the psychological support that has not been available over recent years is hugely lacking and thatis recent years is hugely lacking and that is something that the government is particularly a link only to get on and deal with. would

ou like only to get on and deal with. would you like the — only to get on and deal with. would you like the prime _ only to get on and deal with. would you like the prime minister- only to get on and deal with. would you like the prime minister to - only to get on and deal with. would you like the prime minister to stand up you like the prime minister to stand up and says sorry and the host later? , , ., �* ., ., ., later? yes, but i don't want hollow words, i later? yes, but i don't want hollow words. i want _ later? yes, but i don't want hollow words, i want actions. _ later? yes, but i don't want hollow words, i want actions. if— later? yes, but i don't want hollow words, i want actions. if he - later? yes, but i don't want hollow words, i want actions. if he is - words, i want actions. if he is really sorry, notjust him but successive prime ministers and health ministers who have denied us a public inquiry, they should apologise, too. we willjudge them by their actions, not their words. it is time for the government to get on with it and make meaningful redress by showing there are serious about apologising and implementing the recommendations. 50 about apologising and implementing the recommendations.— about apologising and implementing the recommendations. so your... so our work the recommendations. so your... so your work is— the recommendations. so your... so your work is not— the recommendations. so your... so your work is not done? _ the recommendations. so your... so your work is not done? no. - the recommendations. so your... so your work is not done? no. the - your work is not done? no. the inuui your work is not done? no. the inquiry was _ your work is not done? no. the inquiry was the _ your work is not done? no. the inquiry was the first _ your work is not done? no. the inquiry was the first phase, - your work is not done? no. the | inquiry was the first phase, now your work is not done? no. the i inquiry was the first phase, now it is up for the government to get on and implement these recommendations. thank you very much forjoining us on this monumental day.

more reaction on the report that is coming today on the infected blood scandal. i think the overwhelming response that i get from people i have spoken to is the sense of vindication, because people here say that they have been warning about this for decades and today they finally, in some way feel heard. you are watching bbc news and we will continue our coverage from here in westminster on the infected blood scandal. this is bbc news. the infected blood scandal inquiry has published its final report today concluding that the treatment disaster could and should have been largely avoided. the five year investigation accuses doctors, the government and the nhs of trying to cover up what happened. it found that patients were knowingly exposed to unacceptable

risks and found what it described as a catalogue of failures with catastrophic consequences. the prime minister rishi sunak is expected to issue an apology later on today. some of the tens of thousands of people infected with hiv and hepatitis c in the 19705, �*80s and early �*90s by contaminated blood. today, the final report into the scandal described the scale of what happened as horrifying and sad lives, dreams, friendships, families and finances were destroyed by it. well, i think the scale speaks for itself. if you have over 30,000 people who go into hospital and come out with infections which were life shattering, that in itself is huge, and the suffering for them and for others is huge. the inquiry has spent four years taking evidence from more than 5,000 witnesses and examined 100,000 documents. it's concluded this was a disaster not an accident,