we re members and relatives who were affected by having a loved one whose life was changed and in many cases ended by being treated with these contaminated blood products. i don't know if we will get a precise figure for the overall bill because it will depend on how many people come forward, and still it is not quite clear how many people were affected by this appalling scandal. henry, possibly not a full figure today. do you think we will get a timeline because thousands have been waiting for the 19705, decades for this day? i waiting for the 19705, decades for this da ? ~ waiting for the 1970s, decades for this da ? ~' ., , this day? i think the government is under pressure _ this day? i think the government is under pressure to _ this day? i think the government is under pressure to be _ this day? i think the government is under pressure to be quite - this day? i think the government is under pressure to be quite precise | under pressure to be quite precise about the timeline. it is notjust many people have been waiting decades, it is also people affected die, as campaigners point out. the

figure was that one of them dies every four days on average, so for them getting conver5ation every four days on average, so for them getting conversation is of course an important matter. i think the government will come under pressure to be precise about a timeframe. rishi sunak wa5 pressure to be precise about a timeframe. rishi sunak was asked yesterday by diana johnson, labour mp yesterday by diana john5on, labour mp who's been campaigning on it was a boy year5, mp who's been campaigning on it was a boy years, she asked the prime minister whether he can guarantee the victims would get compensation by the end of the year. he didn't do that but i guess google find out if it is because he can't guarantee it will happen or simply because the government want to leave all questions of timeframe for this statement from john glenn today. reminders what happened yesterday with the releasing of this report into a seven—year inquiry and the prime minister calling it a day of shame acro55 prime minister calling it a day of shame across the political spectrum. 5hame across the political spectrum. it was one of those house of commons

moments, the moment where the chamber said moments, the moment where the chamber5aid in a moments, the moment where the chamber said in a complete 5ilence chamber said in a complete silence and mp5 try to rise above the usual political fray and made clear to the public they grasp the seriousness of what happened. some of rishi sunak�*s language, making an apology on behalf of the state was serious. he said the report should 5hock behalf of the state was serious. he said the report should shock the nation to its core, ensuring that it can never happen again. he talked about a pattern, he said this was a piece of other scandals, he mentioned hillsborough, which david cameron apologised on behalf of successive governments on behalf of the state after a long—running inquiry. rishi sunak wa5 the state after a long—running inquiry. rishi sunak was talking about a culture in which various different arm5 about a culture in which various different arms of the state covered things up, this is what the report by sir brian langstaff, he found there had been a cover—up by the state. i think once we are through

today, through some of the immediate questions on how the government intends to address the scandal, many people will want to hear more not just from rishi sunak, but from keir starmer and the labour party about how in practical terms they plan to address what rishi sunak described addre55 what rishi sunak described as a pattern of behaviour by the a5 a pattern of behaviour by the british state. find as a pattern of behaviour by the british state.— as a pattern of behaviour by the british state. �* ., , ., , british state. and what people will want to know _ british state. and what people will want to know and _ british state. and what people will want to know and the _ british state. and what people will want to know and the victims - british state. and what people will want to know and the victims will. want to know and the victims will want to know and the victims will want to know is will anybody be held to account? fine want to know is will anybody be held to account? ., want to know is will anybody be held to account?— to account? one of the interesting auestion to account? one of the interesting question is — to account? one of the interesting question is prompted _ to account? one of the interesting question is prompted by _ to account? one of the interesting question is prompted by the - to account? one of the interesting| question is prompted by the report is of their going to be prosecutions? underthe is of their going to be prosecutions? under the legal architecture by which public inquirie5 happen, there could not have been. sir brian langstaff wa5 have been. sir brian langstaff was not able to make any findings of civil or criminal liabilities. he is able, if he wishes, to send his report to pro5ecutor5 who will have to make a different determination about thre5hold5 to make a different determination

about thresholds for potential prosecutions. before this public inquiry began, it was commissioned by theresa may and opened in 2018, there were a couple of civil lawsuits going on by those caught up law5uit5 going on by those caught up in the scandal, affected and infected, both serving the government and department of health, but also a school where many of these young haemophiliacs were treated with infected blood. the5e law5uit5 had to pause while this inquiry was ongoing, so i think many people expect tho5e inquiry was ongoing, so i think many people expect those to resume. ye5, people expect those to resume. yes, i think a lot of people are asking whether there is the potential for criminal prosecutions perhap5 whether there is the potential for criminal prosecutions perhaps of some of those named in sir brian langstaff�*s report. some of those named in sir brian langstaff's report.— langstaff's report. henry, we are auoin langstaff's report. henry, we are going across — langstaff's report. henry, we are going across to — langstaff's report. henry, we are going across to the _ langstaff's report. henry, we are going across to the commons - langstaff's report. henry, we are i going across to the commons where john glenn i5 going across to the commons where john glenn is addressing the commons. john glenn is addressing the commons-— john glenn is addressing the commons. , ._ commons. yesterday the prime minister spoke _ commons. yesterday the prime minister spoke about _ commons. yesterday the prime minister spoke about the - commons. yesterday the prime l minister spoke about the anguish commons. yesterday the prime - minister spoke about the anguish the infected _ minister spoke about the anguish the infected blood scandal brought to

those _ infected blood scandal brought to those impacted by it. iwant infected blood scandal brought to those impacted by it. i want to reiterate — those impacted by it. i want to reiterate his words and apologise again— reiterate his words and apologise again today. i am sorry. the prime minister_ again today. i am sorry. the prime minister also spoke on behalf of the whole _ minister also spoke on behalf of the whole house of our gratitude to sir brian_ whole house of our gratitude to sir brian langstaff and his team for completing his comprehensive report. ithink— completing his comprehensive report. i think seven volumes, 2500 pages, and of— i think seven volumes, 2500 pages, and of our— i think seven volumes, 2500 pages, and of our appreciation of all those who came — and of our appreciation of all those who came forward as part of the inquiry — who came forward as part of the inquiry it— who came forward as part of the inquiry. it was the greatest privilege of my ministerial career to have _ privilege of my ministerial career to have met over 40 representatives of the _ to have met over 40 representatives of the infected community. in cardiff, — of the infected community. in cardiff, edinburgh, belfast, burnley, and leads. as we finalised our response to compensation for

this appalling tragedy. the whole community's bravery through immense suffering _ community's bravery through immense suffering is _ community's bravery through immense suffering is what has enabled justice — suffering is what has enabled justice today. and i know that many of them _ justice today. and i know that many of them will be watching in the gallery — of them will be watching in the gallery i— of them will be watching in the gallery. i want to honour their fortitude _ gallery. i want to honour their fortitude through the unimaginable pain, as _ fortitude through the unimaginable pain, as i _ fortitude through the unimaginable pain, as i lay out a more detailed response — pain, as i lay out a more detailed response to — pain, as i lay out a more detailed response to sir brian langstaff's interim — response to sir brian langstaff's interim report on compensation. we will provide — interim report on compensation. we will provide the house with a further— will provide the house with a further opportunity to debate inquiry— further opportunity to debate inquiry pots full report after the recess — inquiry pots full report after the recess. the government will response to each— recess. the government will response to each recommendation in full as quickly— to each recommendation in full as quickly as— to each recommendation in full as quickly as possible within its comprehensive response to the report — comprehensive response to the report mr_ comprehensive response to the report. mr speaker, the prime minister— report. mr speaker, the prime minister confirmed yesterday that the government will pay

comprehensive compensation to those who have _ comprehensive compensation to those who have been infected and affected as a result _ who have been infected and affected as a result of the scandal. and i will now— as a result of the scandal. and i will now set out to the house the scheme — will now set out to the house the scheme the government is proposing. and of— scheme the government is proposing. and of course more details of the scheme _ and of course more details of the scheme will be published online today _ scheme will be published online today. we are establishing the infected — today. we are establishing the infected blood authority, a body to administer the conversation scheme. a shadow— administer the conversation scheme. a shadow body has already been setup and an— a shadow body has already been setup and an interim ceo has been appointed. and today, i am delighted to announce the appointment of robert — to announce the appointment of robert francis as the interim chair of the _ robert francis as the interim chair of the organisation. the experience and the _ of the organisation. the experience and the care that robert will bring to this _ and the care that robert will bring to this role will ensure the scheme is credible — to this role will ensure the scheme is credible and trusted by the community. his support in delivering

this scheme — community. his support in delivering this scheme will be invaluable. mr speaker, — this scheme will be invaluable. mr speaker, those who have been infected — speaker, those who have been infected or affected as a result of the scandal will receive compensation. to be crystal—clear, if you _ compensation. to be crystal—clear, if you have — compensation. to be crystal—clear, if you have been directly or indirectly infected by nhs blood, blood _ indirectly infected by nhs blood, blood products or tissue contaminated with the hiv or hepatitis c, or have developed a chronic— hepatitis c, or have developed a chronic infection from blood contaminated with hepatitis b, you will be _ contaminated with hepatitis b, you will be eligible to claim compensation under the scheme. and where _ compensation under the scheme. and where an— compensation under the scheme. and where an infected person has died, but would — where an infected person has died, but would have been eligible under these _ but would have been eligible under these criteria, compensation will be paid to _ these criteria, compensation will be paid to their estate, including where —

paid to their estate, including where a — paid to their estate, including where a person was infected with hepatitis — where a person was infected with hepatitis b and died during the acute — hepatitis b and died during the acute period of infection. mr speaker, _ acute period of infection. mr speaker, sir brian langstaff could not have — speaker, sir brian langstaff could not have been clearer, it's notjust the harm _ not have been clearer, it's notjust the harm caused by the infections that requires compensation, it is also the — that requires compensation, it is also the wrong suffered by those affected — also the wrong suffered by those affected that must also be compensated for. so when a person with an _ compensated for. so when a person with an eligible infection has been accepted — with an eligible infection has been accepted onto the scheme, that affected — accepted onto the scheme, that affected love ones will be able to apply— affected love ones will be able to apply for— affected love ones will be able to apply for compensation in their own right _ apply for compensation in their own right that— apply for compensation in their own right. that means partners, parents, siblings, _ right. that means partners, parents, siblings, children and friends and family _ siblings, children and friends and family. you have acted as carers of those _ family. you have acted as carers of those infected are all eligible to claim _ those infected are all eligible to claim i— those infected are all eligible to claim. i am aware being asked to provide _ claim. i am aware being asked to provide evidence of eligibility will likely— provide evidence of eligibility will likely to — provide evidence of eligibility will likely to be distressing, so i'm

determined to minimise it as much as possible _ determined to minimise it as much as possible im— determined to minimise it as much as possible. i'm pleased to confirm today— possible. i'm pleased to confirm today anyone already registered with one of— today anyone already registered with one of the _ today anyone already registered with one of the existing infected blood support— one of the existing infected blood support schemes will automatically be considered eligible for compensation. mr speaker, iwould like to— compensation. mr speaker, iwould like to give— compensation. mr speaker, iwould like to give thanks to the dedication and hard work of professorjonathan montgomery and professor jonathan montgomery and the professorjonathan montgomery and the other— professorjonathan montgomery and the other members of the expert group _ the other members of the expert group who were critical in advising on how— group who were critical in advising on how the — group who were critical in advising on how the government could faithfully translate the recommendations of sir brian langstaff for the scheme. and in line with — langstaff for the scheme. and in line with our previous commitments, we will— line with our previous commitments, we will publish the names of those experts _ we will publish the names of those experts today. in his report, sir brian— experts today. in his report, sir brian langstaff recommended conversation be awarded with respect to the _ conversation be awarded with respect to the following five categories —— an injury—

to the following five categories —— an injury impact award, acknowledging the physical and mental— acknowledging the physical and mental injury caused by the infection. a social impact award to address— infection. a social impact award to address the stigma or social isolation _ address the stigma or social isolation as a result of the infection. an autonomy award, acknowledging how family and private life was _ acknowledging how family and private life was disrupted during this time. a care _ life was disrupted during this time. a care award to compensate for past and future _ a care award to compensate for past and future care needs of anyone infected — and future care needs of anyone infected. and finally, a financial loss award for past and future financial— loss award for past and future financial losses suffered as a result — financial losses suffered as a result of— financial losses suffered as a result of the infection. the government accepts this recommendation. with two small refinements. informed by the work of the expert— refinements. informed by the work of the expert group and designed for simplicity— the expert group and designed for simplicity and speed, two other

principles— simplicity and speed, two other principles that sir brian langstaff asserted — principles that sir brian langstaff asserted. first, the care award will be directly— asserted. first, the care award will be directly awarded to the person with the _ be directly awarded to the person with the infection or their estate. and second, the financial loss award will be _ and second, the financial loss award will be paid — and second, the financial loss award will be paid either to the person with the — will be paid either to the person with the infection or where an infected — with the infection or where an infected person has tragically died before _ infected person has tragically died before the establishment of the scheme — before the establishment of the scheme, their estate and affected persons _ scheme, their estate and affected persons who are dependent on them. now, _ persons who are dependent on them. now. sadly — persons who are dependent on them. now, sadly, many people have links to multiple — now, sadly, many people have links to multiple individuals who are infected — to multiple individuals who are infected. 0rare both to multiple individuals who are infected. or are both infected themselves and affected by another's infection _ themselves and affected by another's infection. multiple injury awards will be _ infection. multiple injury awards will be offered to reflect the scale of the _ will be offered to reflect the scale of the loss and suffering. the scheme — of the loss and suffering. the scheme will be tariff —based and we will be _ scheme will be tariff —based and we will be publishing an explanatory document, including examples are proposed — document, including examples are proposed tariffs on the government's

website _ proposed tariffs on the government's website. this is not the end. 0ver website. this is not the end. over the next _ website. this is not the end. over the next few weeks, robert francis was sick— the next few weeks, robert francis was sick to— the next few weeks, robert francis was sick to use from the infected blood _ was sick to use from the infected blood community on the proposed scheme _ blood community on the proposed scheme before its terms are set in regulation — scheme before its terms are set in regulation. to make sure the scheme will best— regulation. to make sure the scheme will best serve those it is intended for. will best serve those it is intended for~ so— will best serve those it is intended for. so robert francis has welcomed the government's proposals as positive — the government's proposals as positive and meaningful and will set out more _ positive and meaningful and will set out more details on engagement with the community shortly. the inquiry recommended the scheme should be flexible _ recommended the scheme should be flexible in_ recommended the scheme should be flexible in its award of compensation, providing for a lump—sum or regular payments. we agree _ lump—sum or regular payments. we agree and — lump—sum or regular payments. we agree. and that is why the awards to living _ agree. and that is why the awards to living infected or affected present will be _ living infected or affected present will be offered a lump sum or periodical payments. and where the infected _ periodical payments. and where the infected person has died, estate

representatives will receive conversation as a single lump—sum. to then _ conversation as a single lump—sum. to then distribute to beneficiaries of the _ to then distribute to beneficiaries of the estate as is appropriate. we will also _ of the estate as is appropriate. we will also guarantee that any payments made to those eligible will be exempt from income, capital gains and inheritance tax as well as disregard _ and inheritance tax as well as disregard from means tested benefit assessments. and we will also ensure all claimants are able to appeal their— all claimants are able to appeal their award. all claimants are able to appeal theiraward. both all claimants are able to appeal their award. both through an internal— their award. both through an internal review process in the infected — internal review process in the infected blood compensation authority, and where needed the right— authority, and where needed the right to — authority, and where needed the right to appeal to a first—year tribunal _ right to appeal to a first—year tribunal. and our expectation is that final— tribunal. and our expectation is that final payments will start before — that final payments will start before the end of the year. mr speaker, — before the end of the year. mr speaker, if you would permit our would _ speaker, if you would permit our would like — speaker, if you would permit our would like to return to the house when _ would like to return to the house

when the — would like to return to the house when the regulations are laid later this year. — when the regulations are laid later this year, to make a further statement on an update on the delivery— statement on an update on the delivery of the compensation scheme. but i delivery of the compensation scheme. but i know— delivery of the compensation scheme. but i know from my discussions with the communityjust how important the existing _ the communityjust how important the existing infected blood support payments are to them. i recognise many— payments are to them. i recognise many people sadly rely on these payments. and they are rightly keen to understand what the government's intentions _ to understand what the government's intentions are. i want to provide reassurance to all those out there today— reassurance to all those out there today that — reassurance to all those out there today that no immediate changes will be made _ today that no immediate changes will be made to the support schemes. payments — be made to the support schemes. payments will continue to be made at the same _ payments will continue to be made at the same level until the 31st of march — the same level until the 31st of march 2025, and they will not be deducted — march 2025, and they will not be deducted from any of these compensation awards. from the 1st of april 2025, _ compensation awards. from the 1st of april 2025, any support scheme

payments received will be counted towards _ payments received will be counted towards the beneficiary's final conversation award, ensuring parity between _ conversation award, ensuring parity between support scheme beneficiaries regardless of whether they were the first or— regardless of whether they were the first or last to have their compensation by the infected blood compensation by the infected blood compensation authority. we will ensure _ compensation authority. we will ensure that no one, no one receives less in— ensure that no one, no one receives less in compensation than they would have received in support payments. mr speaker, i recognise that members of the _ mr speaker, i recognise that members of the infected blood community are still dying _ of the infected blood community are still dying each week from the infections. and there may be people, indeed _ infections. and there may be people, indeed there will be people, listing today— indeed there will be people, listing today you — indeed there will be people, listing today you are thinking to themselves that they— today you are thinking to themselves that they may not live to receive compensation. so i want to address

those _ compensation. so i want to address those concerns as well. today i'm announcing — those concerns as well. today i'm announcing that the government will make _ announcing that the government will make further interim payments ahead of the _ make further interim payments ahead of the establishment of the full scheme, — of the establishment of the full scheme, payments of £210,000 will be made to— scheme, payments of £210,000 will be made to living infected beneficiaries, there is registered with registered infected blood support schemes, as well as those who register with the support scheme before _ who register with the support scheme before the _ who register with the support scheme before the final scheme becomes operational. and the estates of those _ operational. and the estates of those who pass away between now and payments _ those who pass away between now and payments being made. i know that time is _ payments being made. i know that time is of— payments being made. i know that time is of the essence. which is why i'm time is of the essence. which is why im also— time is of the essence. which is why i'm also pleased to say they will be delivered _ i'm also pleased to say they will be delivered within 90 days, starting in the _ delivered within 90 days, starting in the summer. so that they can reach _ in the summer. so that they can reach those _ in the summer. so that they can reach those who need it so urgently most~ _ reach those who need it so urgently most. before i conclude i would like to turn— most. before i conclude i would like to turn to _ most. before i conclude i would like to turn to the matter of

memorialisation. many of those infected — memorialisation. many of those infected by contaminated blood or blood _ infected by contaminated blood or blood products have died, died without— blood products have died, died without knowing their suffering and loss would be fully recognised either — loss would be fully recognised either in — loss would be fully recognised either in their lifetime or at all. the lives — either in their lifetime or at all. the lives of— either in their lifetime or at all. the lives of most of those who have died remain — the lives of most of those who have died remain unrecognised. and i note sir brian— died remain unrecognised. and i note sir brian langstaff's recommendations on memorialisation across— recommendations on memorialisation across the _ recommendations on memorialisation across the uk, and the government will address those recommendations in detail— will address those recommendations in detail as _ will address those recommendations in detail as part of our wider response _ in detail as part of our wider response to this report. so in conclusion, mr speaker, i know the whole _ conclusion, mr speaker, i know the whole house will want to join conclusion, mr speaker, i know the whole house will want tojoin me in thanking _ whole house will want tojoin me in thanking sir brian langstaff and the inquiry— thanking sir brian langstaff and the inquiry for— thanking sir brian langstaff and the inquiry for the work they've done, and pay— inquiry for the work they've done, and pay tribute to all those who have _ and pay tribute to all those who have been— and pay tribute to all those who have been caught up in this terrible tragedy— have been caught up in this terrible tragedy and battled forjustice for so long — tragedy and battled forjustice for so long. yesterday was a day of great _ so long. yesterday was a day of

great humility for everyone implicated by this inquiry, and today— implicated by this inquiry, and today i— implicated by this inquiry, and today i can only hope the report published, and with our firm commitment to compensate those touched _ commitment to compensate those touched by the scandal, the infected blood _ touched by the scandal, the infected blood community knows their cries forjustice — blood community knows their cries forjustice have been heard. mr speaker, — forjustice have been heard. mr speaker, i_ forjustice have been heard. mr speaker, i commend this statement to the house _ speaker, i commend this statement to the house. can speaker, i commend this statement to the house. ., ., , , the house. can i say, all members will ret the house. can i say, all members will get in- — the house. can i say, all members will get in- l— the house. can i say, all members will get in. i now— the house. can i say, all members will get in. i now come _ the house. can i say, all members will get in. i now come to the - will get in. i now come to the shadow secretary of state. the infected blood _ shadow secretary of state. the infected blood scandal is one of the gravest _ infected blood scandal is one of the gravest injustices in our history, and a _ gravest injustices in our history, and a profound moment of shame for british— and a profound moment of shame for british state. the leader of the opposition apologise on behalf of the labour governments of the past yesterday. — the labour governments of the past yesterday, and the prime minister did the _ yesterday, and the prime minister did the same behalf of all

governments and the country. and i 'oin governments and the country. and i join them _ governments and the country. and i join them today in saying a deep and heartfelt _ join them today in saying a deep and heartfelt sorry. the scale of the horror— heartfelt sorry. the scale of the horror that _ heartfelt sorry. the scale of the horror that was uncovered by sir brian— horror that was uncovered by sir brian langstaff's report almost defies — brian langstaff's report almost defies belief. and that is why i pay tribute _ defies belief. and that is why i pay tribute to— defies belief. and that is why i pay tribute to the victims of the scandal— tribute to the victims of the scandal who have bought so hard for justice _ scandal who have bought so hard for justice we — scandal who have bought so hard for justice. we thank the charities, the remarkable — justice. we thank the charities, the remarkable campaigning work of my i’ili'it remarkable campaigning work of my right honourable friend's for kingston upon hull. the father of the house. — kingston upon hull. the father of the house, the journalists whose work— the house, the journalists whose work and — the house, the journalists whose work and book did so much to drive this issue _ work and book did so much to drive this issue forward. i also recognise the significance of the decision of the significance of the decision of the former prime minister in establishing the public inquiry, and ithank— establishing the public inquiry, and i thank sir— establishing the public inquiry, and i thank sir brian langstaff and all

his staff— i thank sir brian langstaff and all his staff for their forensic work. i also _ his staff for their forensic work. i also want — his staff for their forensic work. i also want to say thank you to the minister— also want to say thank you to the minister for wrigley briefing me and for his— minister for wrigley briefing me and for his work in government ahead of today— for his work in government ahead of today -- _ for his work in government ahead of today —— regularly briefing. 0ne for his work in government ahead of today —— regularly briefing. one of the most _ today —— regularly briefing. one of the most powerful conclusions in this report — the most powerful conclusions in this report is an apology is only meaningful if it is accompanied by action _ meaningful if it is accompanied by action it — meaningful if it is accompanied by action it is— meaningful if it is accompanied by action. it is that i turn to now. i welcome — action. it is that i turn to now. i welcome the further interim payments that the _ welcome the further interim payments that the minister has announced. and i that the minister has announced. and i repeat— that the minister has announced. and i repeat our— that the minister has announced. and i repeat our commitment to work on a cross-party _ i repeat our commitment to work on a cross—party basis to help deliver the compensation scheme and get the money. _ the compensation scheme and get the money. the _ the compensation scheme and get the money, the final money to victims as soon as possible. and i welcome the further— soon as possible. and i welcome the further details the minister has given. — further details the minister has given, including the appointment of the interim chair. answer robert frands— the interim chair. answer robert francis already saying he is seeking the views— francis already saying he is seeking the views of the infected blood

community is welcome. does the minister— community is welcome. does the minister agree that continuing to hear that— minister agree that continuing to hear that voice of victims going forward — hear that voice of victims going forward is — hear that voice of victims going forward is crucial? i also welcome payments— forward is crucial? i also welcome payments being made under the five heads _ payments being made under the five heads of— payments being made under the five heads of loss, to the infected and the affected. can the minister confirm — the affected. can the minister confirm that estimates of the total costs _ confirm that estimates of the total costs have — confirm that estimates of the total costs have now been made and there will be _ costs have now been made and there will be no _ costs have now been made and there will be no undue delay in those final— will be no undue delay in those final payments reaching victims? time _ final payments reaching victims? time is _ final payments reaching victims? time is of— final payments reaching victims? time is of the essence. 0ne victim continues— time is of the essence. 0ne victim continues to — time is of the essence. 0ne victim continues to die every four days. and on— continues to die every four days. and on that, can the minister set out some — and on that, can the minister set out some more detail on how the personal— out some more detail on how the personal representatives of estates will be _ personal representatives of estates will be handled as part of the scheme? _ will be handled as part of the scheme? can he also confirm the plans— scheme? can he also confirm the plans in— scheme? can he also confirm the plans in place to trace people, additional people who might be eligible — additional people who might be eligible for compensation? could he also say— eligible for compensation? could he also say a _ eligible for compensation? could he also say a little more about when we

can expect _ also say a little more about when we can expect a — also say a little more about when we can expect a progress report on sir brian— can expect a progress report on sir brian langstaff's over 11 recommendations beyond the establishment of the conversation body? _ establishment of the conversation body? can— establishment of the conversation body? can i add as well my support and the _ body? can i add as well my support and the support of all on these benches — and the support of all on these benches to the consideration of appropriate and fitting memorials across— appropriate and fitting memorials across the different parts of the uk, across the different parts of the uk. and — across the different parts of the uk, and indeed as sir brian langstaff recommends, for the victims — langstaff recommends, for the victims who were treated at the hospital — victims who were treated at the hospital. 0n charges, can the minister— hospital. 0n charges, can the minister ensure all relevant evidence is made available for consideration by the prosecuting authorities and any other necessary support— authorities and any other necessary support provided? can i also say on sir brian— support provided? can i also say on sir brian langstaff's findings on institutional defensiveness, of putting — institutional defensiveness, of putting the reputation of people and protecting institutions above public service. _ protecting institutions above public service, this follows on from other

scandals _ service, this follows on from other scandals such as hillsborough and horizon _ scandals such as hillsborough and horizon it— scandals such as hillsborough and horizon. it is why we must deliberate duty of and the adult the political— deliberate duty of and the adult the political leadership we need to replace — political leadership we need to replace that culture of defensiveness with openness and transparency. sir brian langstaff's report _ transparency. sir brian langstaff's report challenges all of us to make progress _ report challenges all of us to make progress on his recommendations. that is— progress on his recommendations. that is what we must now come together— that is what we must now come together to do. the victims deserve nothing _ together to do. the victims deserve nothing less. i together to do. the victims deserve nothing less-— together to do. the victims deserve nothing less. i thank the honourable rentleman nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for— nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for his _ nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for his tone _ nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for his tone and - nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for his tone and for- nothing less. i thank the honourable gentleman for his tone and for the l gentleman for his tone and for the constructive approach he has taken throughout our conversations and in his response today. i totally embrace the need to continue the dialogue with victims and that is why i was please robert francis agreed to take on the role having

done the study into the compensation. we have met a number of times where i've explained to him whatjonathan montgomery and the expert panel did, and i'm pleased he has got to the point where he is sufficiently satisfied to move forward in this way. as the pybus to make clear yesterday, there is no restriction on the budget —— as the prime minister made clear. where we need to pay, we role—play. we will minimise delays, address the recommendations of sir brian langstaff with respect to the speed and efficiency and removing as bush complexity as possible. he asked about the representatives of different estates and tracing additional claimants. these will be additional claimants. these will be a matter is the interim chief executive and the interim chair will look at very carefully. and what i envisage happening is through

look at very carefully. and what i envisage happening is throuthune, an exercise to engage meaningfully with representatives of the communities to look at some of the assumptions in the work of that expert panel that will inform those regulations that were duty—bound to be brought to the house within three months of royal assent of the victims and prisoners. i think some of the other matters with respect to the memorialisation and criminal charges and duty of candour, some of which progress is being made in different ways, are probably best left to some of my colleagues at a subsequent point. as i said, i anticipate we will have an early opportunity to discuss these in full in a debate after the recess. the house will understand my marks will be _ the house will understand my marks will be to _ the house will understand my marks will be to the lady. it is 36 years

since _ will be to the lady. it is 36 years since i_ will be to the lady. it is 36 years since i was — will be to the lady. it is 36 years since i was with the affairs of my friends _ since i was with the affairs of my friends who i knew had been infected. _ friends who i knew had been infected, and it is 33 years since the person— infected, and it is 33 years since the person died. friendships, fractured. _ the person died. friendships, fractured, families changed forever. 0ne fractured, families changed forever. one of— fractured, families changed forever. one of the _ fractured, families changed forever. one of the points which i hope my honourable friend will put to his fellow _ honourable friend will put to his fellow ministers in health is whether— fellow ministers in health is whether those who are still infected in some _ whether those who are still infected in some way can have a national health _ in some way can have a national health service passport so when they io health service passport so when they -o to health service passport so when they go to get— health service passport so when they go to get medical attention, they aren't— go to get medical attention, they aren't asked the same questions my constituents were every time, how much _ constituents were every time, how much have — constituents were every time, how much have you drank, and all the rest _ much have you drank, and all the rest it— much have you drank, and all the rest it is— much have you drank, and all the rest. it is important that those who are young — rest. it is important that those who are young should understand if you see there _ are young should understand if you see there is a whole blood infection, you can take the granted things— infection, you can take the granted things you — infection, you can take the granted things you don't need to ask. humanity— things you don't need to ask. humanity needs to spread. can i say that i_ humanity needs to spread. can i say that i recognise he has built on the

work— that i recognise he has built on the work of— that i recognise he has built on the work of our— that i recognise he has built on the work of our honourable friend, the member— work of our honourable friend, the member for— work of our honourable friend, the member for horsham, work of our honourable friend, the memberfor horsham, in work of our honourable friend, the member for horsham, in a cross—party way, member for horsham, in a cross—party way. that— member for horsham, in a cross—party way. that suit — member for horsham, in a cross—party way, that suit grey deserves respect and her— way, that suit grey deserves respect and her successors in the supple service _ and her successors in the supple service for— and her successors in the supple service for putting things right. my last point— service for putting things right. my last point is this, these are not lottery— last point is this, these are not lottery sums you are awarding. in some _ lottery sums you are awarding. in some way— lottery sums you are awarding. in some way they make up for some of the losses— some way they make up for some of the losses and recognise some of the herd _ the losses and recognise some of the herd in_ the losses and recognise some of the herd. in some families, who may not have been— herd. in some families, who may not have been used to having money, most usin- have been used to having money, most using little _ have been used to having money, most using little money because of the consequences, they need mediation services _ consequences, they need mediation services so — consequences, they need mediation services so they don't agree. it could _ services so they don't agree. it could be — services so they don't agree. it could be a _ services so they don't agree. it could be a good idea for them to consider— could be a good idea for them to consider if— could be a good idea for them to consider if it could be made available, in the same way other people _ available, in the same way other people who have come into money can -et people who have come into money can get help _ people who have come into money can get help. families sometimes don't find it— get help. families sometimes don't find it easier to decide how money can be _ find it easier to decide how money can be shared. i find it easier to decide how money can be shared.— can be shared. i thank him for his comments _ can be shared. i thank him for his comments and _ can be shared. i thank him for his comments and pay _ can be shared. i thank him for his comments and pay tribute - can be shared. i thank him for his comments and pay tribute to - can be shared. i thank him for his comments and pay tribute to the | can be shared. i thank him for his - comments and pay tribute to the work he's done and the constructive way he's done and the constructive way he has engaged with me over the last six months and years before. he makes the point of his friend and

the stigma attached to some of the conditions that some of the victims have had to endure. 0bviously that is why. .. have had to endure. 0bviously that is why... and the heads of laws that are reflected in the scheme. he make some observations about how that better awareness of some of those conditions can be taken forward, and i will discuss that with my ministerial colleagues and several of them from the department for social health and care are here today. he mentions my immediate predecessor, but i'm very aware that a large number of paymaster general is, including one sat next to me today, have done an enormous amount of work to get us to this point, and of work to get us to this point, and of course many officials, so i want

to acknowledge their contribution. this isn't about me. i would say to him more broadly that he makes some very wise observations about the need to ensure that the communities that are given significant sums of money, rightly so i'd align with what they were entitled through a legal process, that the appropriate framework of support is in place to assist them through receiving this money in a way which isn't destructive to their lives. factor eight yesterday was a very emotional day for many of us, and i am privileged that i was with constituents in the central hall yesterday, cathy young and her two fantastic daughters, lisa and nicola and so ijoin the minister in paying and so ijoin the minister in paying a great tribute to the infected blood committee.