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as the snp damaged its reputation?” as the snp damaged its reputation? [ 'ust as the snp damaged its reputation? just think parliament should preside over the _ just think parliament should preside over the fear process. that is all i've raised _ over the fear process. that is all i've raised i_ over the fear process. that is all i've raised. i havejust said parliament should provide —— preside over the _ parliament should provide —— preside over the fear— parliament should provide —— preside over the fear process. parliament should provide -- preside over the fear process.— over the fear process. there is only six weeks to _ over the fear process. there is only six weeks to go _ over the fear process. there is only six weeks to go until _ over the fear process. there is only six weeks to go until the _ over the fear process. there is only six weeks to go until the general i six weeks to go until the general election and if parliament decides next week that michael madsen should resign, should he resign? hate next week that michael madsen should resign, should he resign?— resign, should he resign? we will cross that bridge _ resign, should he resign? we will cross that bridge when _ resign, should he resign? we will cross that bridge when we - resign, should he resign? we will cross that bridge when we come i resign, should he resign? we will. cross that bridge when we come to it. ~ cross that bridge when we come to it. . . cross that bridge when we come to it. ~ . , cross that bridge when we come to
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it. we have spoken a lot about... what he described _ it. we have spoken a lot about... what he described michael- it. we have spoken a lot about... l what he described michael madsen it. we have spoken a lot about... - what he described michael madsen as a man_ what he described michael madsen as a man of— what he described michael madsen as a man of integrity? _ what he described michael madsen as a man of integrity? he _ what he described michael madsen as a man of integrity?— a man of integrity? he sacrificed his cabinet _ a man of integrity? he sacrificed his cabinet position _ a man of integrity? he sacrificed his cabinet position and - a man of integrity? he sacrificed his cabinet position and lost - a man of integrity? he sacrificed his cabinet position and lost hisl his cabinet position and lost his cabinet — his cabinet position and lost his cabinet position because of all of this and — cabinet position because of all of this and there is obviously a process— this and there is obviously a process to be undertaken but i want people _ process to be undertaken but i want people to _ process to be undertaken but i want people to be treated fairly because i people to be treated fairly because i would _ people to be treated fairly because i would want that done to me and i don't _ i would want that done to me and i don't think— i would want that done to me and i don't think it's been done in this particular— don't think it's been done in this particular case. i have said what i've particular case. i have said what we said — particular case. i have said what i've said about this process and it is for— i've said about this process and it is for parliament to address the issues — is for parliament to address the issues. ., . , ., , , is for parliament to address the issues. ., . , ., _ , issues. you have previously accepted that it you've — issues. you have previously accepted that it you've only _ issues. you have previously accepted that it you've only got _ issues. you have previously accepted that it you've only got six _ issues. you have previously accepted that it you've only got six weeks - issues. you have previously accepted that it you've only got six weeks to l that it you've only got six weeks to do that, i'm concerned it's not enough time? i do that, i'm concerned it's not enough time?— do that, i'm concerned it's not enough time? do that, i'm concerned it's not enou:h time? . ., ., ., enough time? i am going to get out there and there _ enough time? i am going to get out there and there is _ enough time? i am going to get out there and there is still _ enough time? i am going to get out there and there is still about - enough time? i am going to get out there and there is still about half. there and there is still about half there and there is still about half the population of scotland who believe — the population of scotland who believe in independence. that is not changed _ believe in independence. that is not changed. my challenge is to get those _ changed. my challenge is to get those people to vote snp. and then to get— those people to vote snp. and then to get more people to get the
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support— to get more people to get the support to well over 50% comfortably. that is what i will engaging in the election campaign. do you think michael marsden will have an _ do you think michael marsden will have an impact _ do you think michael marsden will have an impact on _ do you think michael marsden will have an impact on the _ do you think michael marsden will have an impact on the voters? - do you think michael marsden will have an impact on the voters? i. do you think michael marsden will. have an impact on the voters? [was have an impact on the voters? i was u . have an impact on the voters? i was u- at the have an impact on the voters? i was no at the crack _ have an impact on the voters? i was up at the crack of _ have an impact on the voters? i was up at the crack of dawn _ have an impact on the voters? i was up at the crack of dawn and - have an impact on the voters? i was up at the crack of dawn and i - have an impact on the voters? up at the crack of dawn and i had have an impact on the voters?“ up at the crack of dawn and i had my usual— up at the crack of dawn and i had my usual ruh— up at the crack of dawn and i had my usual run through the streets of edinburgh, i've done loads of podcast — edinburgh, i've done loads of podcast interviews, i've handled first ministers questions and i am here _ first ministers questions and i am here with — first ministers questions and i am here with all my friends though my journalistic friends answering questions and its got off a great start _ well verratti's, john sweeney with the launch for the snp saying everything that every vote for the snp is about to get rid of this tory government and then talking about health and the cost of living,
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housing, schools and child poverty. he said decisions about scotland should be made in scotland. we will talk to the scotland editor for the bbc in a moment or two. but the associate political editor of the new statement still here. you were listening to that and the liberal democrats. what have you made of the various party launches we've had so far? . . various party launches we've had so far? , . ., various party launches we've had so far? , . . , . far? there is a real difference in enthusiasm _ far? there is a real difference in enthusiasm with _ far? there is a real difference in enthusiasm with how— far? there is a real difference in enthusiasm with how various . far? there is a real difference in - enthusiasm with how various parties are kicked off this election campaign. labourwas raring are kicked off this election campaign. labour was raring to go. i think they have been ready since march thinking there might be an election called at the start of may. they had sakhi started's video ready to go within four minutes of the general election being announced. the lib dems having planning this for a while and are looking forward to this election campaign. the snp were hoping to get a bit more time withjohn sweeney as leader to
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steady the ship after the shock resignation of humza yousaf. the election is going to be in the school holidays which he talked about. they could have done with a bit more time for him to get his feet under the desk. as for the conservatives, i am still getting a lot of frustration and confusion from conservatives and their advisers and local associations, saying theyjust advisers and local associations, saying they just weren't advisers and local associations, saying theyjust weren't expecting this. they were sent a very strong signalfrom downing street that after the local and mayoral elections in may this was it for the summer and to come back in autumn full of energy. so they have been caught off—guard and you are saying that in the disunity in the party at the moment. taste that in the disunity in the party at the moment-— that in the disunity in the party at the moment. ~ . ., , ,, . ~ the moment. we had from rishi sunak, economic stability, _ the moment. we had from rishi sunak, economic stability, what _ the moment. we had from rishi sunak, economic stability, what do _ the moment. we had from rishi sunak, economic stability, what do you - economic stability, what do you think is the fundamental challenge for sir keir starmer? i think is the fundamental challenge for sir keir starmer?— for sir keir starmer? i think is auoin to for sir keir starmer? i think is going to face _ for sir keir starmer? i think is going to face questions - for sir keir starmer? i think is going to face questions from | for sir keir starmer? i think is i going to face questions from the conservatives on board as an
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security. that is one of the key points rishi sunakflag security. that is one of the key points rishi sunak flag yesterday. the idea that you can trust the conservatives but at this time of instability and global danger can you really trust labour? rishi sunak is hoping there may be some labour disunity perhaps with further tensions over israel and gaza and that he will be able to go to the country and say you can't trust labour or sir keir starmer at this dangerous time. but i think he will be ready for that.— be ready for that. thank you very much for being _ be ready for that. thank you very much for being here _ be ready for that. thank you very much for being here with - be ready for that. thank you very much for being here with us - be ready for that. thank you very much for being here with us in i much for being here with us in downing street. let's go back to james cook who was in that news conference. you are right in terms of the polling but also very election forjohn sweeney because he is only a matter of weeks into the job. is only a matter of weeks into the 'ob. . .
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is only a matter of weeks into the 'ob. , . , is only a matter of weeks into the 'ob. , ., , , job. yes. the man is 'ust in the door as he i job. yes. the man is 'ust in the door as he was _ job. yes. the man isjust in the door as he was seeing - job. yes. the man isjust in the door as he was seeing himself. j job. yes. the man isjust in the - door as he was seeing himself. he's only been in post forjust over a fortnight after hamza yusuf�*s resignation and then year before that nicola sturgeon's resignation. the snp clearly going through a period of some difficulty. john sweeney is hopeful he can stabilise that but he needs to stabilise things at the same time as fighting general election campaign. and as we heard in this news conference there were lots of questions about one particular topic that he was being asked about at first ministers question time at holyrood earlier and that was the resignation of his health secretary in february michael matheson over an £11,000 roaming bill for an ipad funded by the taxpayer. in that row continues because john sweeney as saying taxpayer. in that row continues becausejohn sweeney as saying he will not accept the recommendation of a parliamentary committee to suspend mr matheson from parliament
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for 27 sitting days. that is a lot of detail but the point is it's another event, another challenge for the snp that has the potential to blow him off course. i suppose that underlines a particular issue for the snp is distinct from other opposition parties opposing the uk government at westminster is that the scottish government and i suppose labour in wales as well and not only fighting the uk government but they are trying to defend their own record as well. in but they are trying to defend their own record as well.— own record as well. in that sense there is the _ own record as well. in that sense there is the same _ own record as well. in that sense there is the same fundamental. there is the same fundamental challenge with the voices for change. just in terms of scotland, the importance for the labour party given what happened in the last election and the amount of seats potentially up for grabs. yes. there were 59 seats _ potentially up for grabs. yes. there were 59 seats at _ potentially up for grabs. yes. there were 59 seats at the _ potentially up for grabs. yes. there were 59 seats at the last _ potentially up for grabs. yes. there were 59 seats at the last election i were 59 seats at the last election in 2019 in scotland. they have been
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a lot of boundary changes here, some seats created and many seats redrawn. and the number overall has dropped to 57. how many of those 59 seats to labour win last time? one. this is a party that used to command scottish politics. scotland for labour under gordon brown before him and tony blairand labour under gordon brown before him and tony blair and in years before that could rely on scotland to deliver a large number of mps to westminster to get them across the line and into downing street. sir keir starmer is hoping to return to those days. the prime minister is coming here today to campaign and we are expecting the labour leader to be showing up pretty soon as well. i think this will be an election where labour are hopeful that they can turn the tide in scotland although of course that is a matter not for sir keir starmer or anyone else for the voters.
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sir keir starmer or anyone else for the voters-— sir keir starmer or anyone else for the voters. . «a , . , the voters. thanks very much. rishi sunak is heading _ the voters. thanks very much. rishi sunak is heading to _ the voters. thanks very much. rishi sunak is heading to scotland, - the voters. thanks very much. rishi sunak is heading to scotland, he i sunak is heading to scotland, he started campaigning today in derbyshire and he's also been in wales in the last hour or so. let's hear from wales in the last hour or so. let's hearfrom rishi sunak. i wales in the last hour or so. let's hear from rishi sunak.— wales in the last hour or so. let's hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more _ hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more work— hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more work to _ hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more work to do - hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more work to do and - hear from rishi sunak. i know that there is more work to do and as i i there is more work to do and as i said _ there is more work to do and as i said yesterday i know people are only said yesterday i know people are ontyiust — said yesterday i know people are onlyjust starting to feel the benefits of the change and to some people _ benefits of the change and to some people it _ benefits of the change and to some people it will still be very hard when — people it will still be very hard when they're looking at the bank balances — when they're looking at the bank balances but i do believe we have turned _ balances but i do believe we have turned a — balances but i do believe we have turned a corner. inflation is now track— turned a corner. inflation is now back to — turned a corner. inflation is now back to normal. the economy is growing — back to normal. the economy is growing at — back to normal. the economy is growing at a healthy rate. wages have _ growing at a healthy rate. wages have been rising faster than prices the ten _ have been rising faster than prices the ten months and energy bills are coming _ the ten months and energy bills are coming down. that is why now is the i’ili'it coming down. that is why now is the right moment for us to think about the future — right moment for us to think about the future and we are living in uncertain— the future and we are living in uncertain times and that is why we need _ uncertain times and that is why we need hotd — uncertain times and that is why we need bold action and a clear plan to deliver— need bold action and a clear plan to deliver a _ need bold action and a clear plan to deliver a secure future to everyone in wales— deliver a secure future to everyone in wales and across the country that is what _ in wales and across the country that is what i _ in wales and across the country that is what i plan to talk about over the next — is what i plan to talk about over the next two weeks. if is what i plan to talk about over the next two weeks.— the next two weeks. if you care about the _ the next two weeks. if you care about the state _ the next two weeks. if you care about the state of _ the next two weeks. if you care about the state of the - the next two weeks. if you care about the state of the welsh i the next two weeks. if you care - about the state of the welsh economy why don't you give wales its share
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of hs2 money? i why don't you give wales its share of hs2 money?— why don't you give wales its share of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 of h52 money? i made a big decision on hs2 and — of h52 money? i made a big decision on hs2 and that _ of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 and that is _ of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 and that is going _ of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 and that is going to _ of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 and that is going to mean - of h52 money? i made a big decision on h52 and that is going to mean £1| on hsz and that is going to mean £1 bittion— on hsz and that is going to mean £1 billion for— on hsz and that is going to mean £1 billion for the north wales rectification and when i was in wates— rectification and when i was in wales recently talking about that it was warmly welcomed. it comes on top of if you _ was warmly welcomed. it comes on top of if you remember we are taking a stepthat. — of if you remember we are taking a step that, for every £1 spent across the uk _ step that, for every £1 spent across the uk went on 20 is being given to the uk went on 20 is being given to the welsh _ the uk went on 20 is being given to the welsh government for spending here in— the welsh government for spending here in wales and we have spent two and hatt— here in wales and we have spent two and half billion pounds investing directiv— and half billion pounds investing directly in large communities for tevetting — directly in large communities for levelling up funds. barry is a good example. — levelling up funds. barry is a good example, wrexham is another example. we have _ example, wrexham is another example. we have created two free ports together— we have created two free ports together with the welsh government that are _ together with the welsh government that are attracting jobs and investment in anglesey and port talbot — investment in anglesey and port talbot. an announcement this week for wytfa _ talbot. an announcement this week for wylfa power station which is incredibly exciting. i have a strong record _ incredibly exciting. i have a strong record of— incredibly exciting. i have a strong record of investing in wales and delivering — record of investing in wales and delivering security for people. the future _ delivering security for people. the future and — delivering security for people. the future and in uncertain times you need _ future and in uncertain times you need botd — future and in uncertain times you need bold action and a clear plan to deliver— need bold action and a clear plan to deliver a _ need bold action and a clear plan to deliver a secure future for people and that— deliver a secure future for people and that is— deliver a secure future for people and that is what my track record
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says _ and that is what my track record sa s. ., ., and that is what my track record sa 5. ,, ., ., and that is what my track record sa s. ., i. and that is what my track record sa s. ., ., , ., says. some of your colleagues have one on says. some of your colleagues have gone on the — says. some of your colleagues have gone on the attack _ says. some of your colleagues have gone on the attack by _ says. some of your colleagues have gone on the attack by the _ says. some of your colleagues have gone on the attack by the last - gone on the attack by the last labour government record in wales. what about your own record of the past 1a years at uk level? what about your own record of the past 14 years at uk level? elections are a choice — past 14 years at uk level? elections are a choice in _ past 14 years at uk level? elections are a choice in their _ past 14 years at uk level? elections are a choice in their mainly - past 14 years at uk level? elections are a choice in their mainly about i are a choice in their mainly about the future — are a choice in their mainly about the future but it's reasonable to took _ the future but it's reasonable to took at — the future but it's reasonable to look at the past and you can see my track— look at the past and you can see my track record — look at the past and you can see my track record. inflation now back to normal, _ track record. inflation now back to normal, the — track record. inflation now back to normal, the economy in a much better place, _ normal, the economy in a much better place. which _ normal, the economy in a much better place, which is growing —— wages. look— place, which is growing —— wages. look at— place, which is growing —— wages. look at what— place, which is growing —— wages. look at what welsh labour is doing, wall look at what welsh labour is doing, wait in— look at what welsh labour is doing, wait in on— look at what welsh labour is doing, wall in on motorists with 20 speed limit taste~ — wall in on motorists with 20 speed limit taste. i have spoken to business _ limit taste. i have spoken to business who are talking about higher— business who are talking about higher tax bills as a result of what the welsh — higher tax bills as a result of what the welsh government has done. even though— the welsh government has done. even though we _ the welsh government has done. even though we have given them the money to deliver— though we have given them the money to deliver tax cuts for small businesses. farmers livelihood is decimated — businesses. farmers livelihood is decimated by welsh government plans. we took— decimated by welsh government plans. we took at _ decimated by welsh government plans. we look at the state of the welsh nhs figures out todayjust demonstrating that very sadly much people _ demonstrating that very sadly much people are being let down in the welsh _ people are being let down in the welsh nhs run by the labour government is the worst performing in great _ government is the worst performing in great britain. waiting lists are the longest, emergency times the
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list. the longest, emergency times the list that — the longest, emergency times the list. that is the reality of labour in wales— list. that is the reality of labour in wales and it's reasonable to point _ in wales and it's reasonable to point out — in wales and it's reasonable to point out that von gethin and sir keir starmer are responsible for that _ keir starmer are responsible for that. �* . keir starmer are responsible for that. �* , ., keir starmer are responsible for that. �*, ., ., keir starmer are responsible for that. �*, ., ,, that. let's turn to labour because their leader _ that. let's turn to labour because their leader sir _ that. let's turn to labour because their leader sir keir _ that. let's turn to labour because their leader sir keir starmer - that. let's turn to labour because | their leader sir keir starmer spoke to his supporters earlier today in chillingham. fist to his supporters earlier today in chillingham— chillingham. at long last the election has _ chillingham. at long last the election has been _ chillingham. at long last the election has been called. - chillingham. at long last the | election has been called. the chillingham. at long last the - election has been called. the time has come — election has been called. the time has come on — election has been called. the time has come on the _ election has been called. the time has come on the wait _ election has been called. the time has come on the wait is _ election has been called. the time has come on the wait is over. - election has been called. the time has come on the wait is over. and| has come on the wait is over. and that means — has come on the wait is over. and that means through _ has come on the wait is over. and that means through the _ has come on the wait is over. and that means through the power- has come on the wait is over. and that means through the power ofi has come on the wait is over. and i that means through the power of our democracy— that means through the power of our democracy that— that means through the power of our democracy that voters _ that means through the power of our democracy that voters now _ that means through the power of our democracy that voters now get - that means through the power of our democracy that voters now get to - democracy that voters now get to choose _ democracy that voters now get to choose the — democracy that voters now get to choose the power— democracy that voters now get to choose the power of— democracy that voters now get to choose the power of the - democracy that voters now get to choose the power of the vote, . democracy that voters now get to| choose the power of the vote, the father— choose the power of the vote, the father each — choose the power of the vote, the father each and _ choose the power of the vote, the father each and everyone - choose the power of the vote, the father each and everyone of - choose the power of the vote, the father each and everyone of you i choose the power of the vote, the l father each and everyone of you has to change _ father each and everyone of you has to change our— father each and everyone of you has to change our country— father each and everyone of you has to change our country and _ father each and everyone of you has to change our country and our- to change our country and our community— to change our country and our community and _ to change our country and our community and your- to change our country and our community and your future i to change our country and our| community and your future for to change our country and our- community and your future for the better~ _ community and your future for the better~ so — community and your future for the better. so whether— community and your future for the better. so whether you _ community and your future for the better. so whether you are - community and your future for the better. so whether you are a - community and your future for the i better. so whether you are a family has been _ better. so whether you are a family has been battling _ better. so whether you are a family has been battling the _ better. so whether you are a family has been battling the cost - better. so whether you are a family has been battling the cost of - has been battling the cost of living, — has been battling the cost of living, dealing _ has been battling the cost of living, dealing with - has been battling the cost of i living, dealing with anti—social behaviour— living, dealing with anti—social behaviour or _ living, dealing with anti—social behaviour or your— living, dealing with anti—social behaviour or your business - living, dealing with anti—social| behaviour or your business has living, dealing with anti—social- behaviour or your business has been struggling _ behaviour or your business has been struggling for— behaviour or your business has been struggling for years _ behaviour or your business has been struggling for years against - behaviour or your business has been struggling for years against the - struggling for years against the odds _ struggling for years against the odds and — struggling for years against the odds and an— struggling for years against the odds and an economy - struggling for years against the odds and an economy and - struggling for years against the odds and an economy and the i struggling for years against the - odds and an economy and the chaos under— odds and an economy and the chaos under this— odds and an economy and the chaos under this government, _ odds and an economy and the chaos under this government, if— odds and an economy and the chaos under this government, if you - odds and an economy and the chaosi
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under this government, if you served your country — under this government, if you served your country in — under this government, if you served your country in whatever _ under this government, if you served your country in whatever way, - under this government, if you served your country in whatever way, this i your country in whatever way, this election— your country in whatever way, this election is— your country in whatever way, this election is for— your country in whatever way, this election is for you _ your country in whatever way, this election is for you because - your country in whatever way, this election is for you because you - your country in whatever way, thisi election is for you because you now have the _ election is for you because you now have the power— election is for you because you now have the power and _ election is for you because you now have the power and the _ election is for you because you now have the power and the chance - election is for you because you now have the power and the chance to l election is for you because you now. have the power and the chance to end the chaos, _ have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to — have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to turn _ have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to turn the _ have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to turn the page _ have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to turn the page and - have the power and the chance to end the chaos, to turn the page and to - the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild _ the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain. _ the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain. and _ the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain. and we've - the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain. and we've had - the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain. and we've had 14. rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years— rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years of— rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years of going _ rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years of going round _ rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years of going round and - rebuild britain. and we've had 14 years of going round and round i rebuild britain. and we've had 14| years of going round and round in circles. _ years of going round and round in circles. getting _ years of going round and round in circles, getting absolutely - years of going round and round in i circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos _ circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos and _ circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos and division _ circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos and division feeding - circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos and division feeding chaos - circles, getting absolutely nowhere. i chaos and division feeding chaos and division _ chaos and division feeding chaos and division and — chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that _ chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that has— chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that has a _ chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that has a cost. - chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that has a cost. a- division. and that has a cost. a human— division. and that has a cost. a human cost _ division. and that has a cost. a human cost. in— division. and that has a cost. a human cost. in milton- division. and that has a cost. a human cost. in milton keynes. division. and that has a cost. a human cost. in milton keynes i division. and that has a cost. a- human cost. in milton keynes i met will was _ human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a _ human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a fireman _ human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a fireman and _ human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a fireman and he _ human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a fireman and he has - human cost. in milton keynes i met will was a fireman and he has a - will was a fireman and he has a simple — will was a fireman and he has a simple dream~ _ will was a fireman and he has a simple dream. he _ will was a fireman and he has a simple dream. he wants- will was a fireman and he has a simple dream. he wants to - will was a fireman and he has a | simple dream. he wants to own will was a fireman and he has a - simple dream. he wants to own his own home — simple dream. he wants to own his own home he's _ simple dream. he wants to own his own home. he's got _ simple dream. he wants to own his own home. he's got two _ simple dream. he wants to own his own home. he's got two extra - simple dream. he wants to own his own home. he's got two extra jobs| simple dream. he wants to own his i own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of— own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being _ own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a — own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a fireman— own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a fireman but— own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a fireman but he - own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a fireman but he still- top of being a fireman but he still can't _ top of being a fireman but he still can't afford — top of being a fireman but he still can't afford it _ top of being a fireman but he still can't afford it because _ top of being a fireman but he still can't afford it because the - top of being a fireman but he still can't afford it because the chaos. can't afford it because the chaos and division _ can't afford it because the chaos and division of— can't afford it because the chaos and division of this _ can't afford it because the chaos and division of this governmenti can't afford it because the chaos.
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and division of this government has robbed _ and division of this government has robbed him — and division of this government has robbed him of— and division of this government has robbed him of that _ and division of this government has robbed him of that dream. - and division of this government has robbed him of that dream. that - and division of this government has robbed him of that dream. that is i robbed him of that dream. that is the price — robbed him of that dream. that is the price he — robbed him of that dream. that is the price he is— robbed him of that dream. that is the price he is paying. _ robbed him of that dream. that is the price he is paying. that- robbed him of that dream. that is the price he is paying.— robbed him of that dream. that is the price he is paying. that was the labour leader— the price he is paying. that was the labour leader at _ the price he is paying. that was the labour leader at the _ the price he is paying. that was the labour leader at the start _ the price he is paying. that was the labour leader at the start of - the price he is paying. that was the labour leader at the start of the i labour leader at the start of the day. it's totally political journalist alicia fitzgerald who was with me. we are only a few hours in but it's clear how the party leaders are framing the contents. it is but it's clear how the party leaders are framing the contents.- are framing the contents. it is for sure. are framing the contents. it is for sure- you — are framing the contents. it is for sure. you have _ are framing the contents. it is for sure. you have seen _ are framing the contents. it is for sure. you have seen some - are framing the contents. it is for sure. you have seen some clear. sure. you have seen some clear dividing lines between the parties. rishi sunak positioning himself as the candidate for stability. what's fascinating is this is the way in which rishi sunak has distanced himself from his party. he is going into this as a candidate, not as someone for the conservative party. he is not saying yes the conservatives have had a really impressive record for the past 14 years or he is saying is he's not liz truss or boris johnson years or he is saying is he's not liz truss or borisjohnson and he has a prime minister will provide stability going forward. it will be “p stability going forward. it will be up to the electorate whether they choose to believe thatjudged on is
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past year or so here at number 10 downing street but that is definitely the way he's going with this campaign. it’s definitely the way he's going with this campaign-— definitely the way he's going with this campaign. it's only day one but how personal _ this campaign. it's only day one but how personal do — this campaign. it's only day one but how personal do you _ this campaign. it's only day one but how personal do you think - this campaign. it's only day one but how personal do you think this - how personal do you think this campaign could get? it is how personal do you think this campaign could get? it is already uuite campaign could get? it is already quite personal- — campaign could get? it is already quite personal. even _ campaign could get? it is already quite personal. even before - campaign could get? it is already quite personal. even before the i quite personal. even before the campaign began you could very much see in prime minister's questions for example rishi sunak and sir keir starmer really going at each other with personal insults. the one issue sir keir starmer will have is not being accused of flip—flopping. it's something rishi sunak in sight to sir keir starmer, especially given that when sir keir starmer first place thejeremy corbyn he came in with these pledges and said this is what he would do as labour leader and he has gone back on all of those initial promises. it will be interesting to see how cased ammo deals with that but i can say that i think it will be a nasty campaign. thank you for now. let's talk to the acting editor of the political news website conservative home henry hill.

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