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the power of the vote, the power each and every one of you has, to change our country, our community and your future for the better. so whether you're a family that's been battling the cost of living, dealing with anti—social behaviour, whether your business that's been struggling for years against the odds of the economy that's in chaos under this government, whether you've served your country, in whatever way, this election is for you. because you now have the power, the chance to end the chaos, to turn the page and to rebuild britain — applause.
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and we've had...we've had 14 years of going round and round in circles, getting absolutely nowhere. chaos and division feeding chaos and division. and that has a cost, a human cost. in milton keynes, i met will, who's a fireman, and he has a simple dream, not an unreasonable dream. he wants to own his own home. he's got two extra jobs on top of being a fireman, but he still can't afford it because the chaos and division of this government has robbed him of that dream. that is the price that he is paying. sir keir starmer spent about all those supporters with banners saying change. strategists always say during a campaign to have a simple message and keep repeating it until
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voters buy it and then do it some more. i'm sure over the next six weeks that is how it is going to play out. more in a moment or two, i hope to speak to laura trott from the conservatives in the next little while but why don't we pause and catch up with some of the sports headlines of the day. let's cross. hello there. thank you very much. football news today that the new manager of west ham united. the former spain, real madrid and most recently wolves coaches been out of a job since leaving the premier league last year. he agreed to deal with west ham earlier in the month is exceeds david moyes who won the conference league with west ham last year. i conference league with west ham last ear. ., conference league with west ham last ear. . , u, , ., conference league with west ham last ear. . , , . year. i am here because i want to be here. for year. i am here because i want to be here- for us. — year. i am here because i want to be here. for us, it's _ year. i am here because i want to be here. for us, it's a _ year. i am here because i want to be here. for us, it's a fantastic - year. i am here because i want to be here. for us, it's a fantastic date - here. for us, it's a fantastic date when we close. our committee members want 100% to be here. we had other
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possibilities, but i repeat i am very happy that it was notjust me because i chose west ham. meanwhile, west ham's lukasz _ because i chose west ham. meanwhile, west ham's lukasz piszczek_ because i chose west ham. meanwhile, west ham's lukasz piszczek et - because i chose west ham. meanwhile, west ham's lukasz piszczek et al - because i chose west ham. meanwhile, west ham's lukasz piszczek et al has i west ham's lukasz piszczek et al has been charged by misconduct with the fa relating to alleged betting rule breaches. the charges relate to gains in the last events where it is alleged the brazilian midfielder deliberately try to get a card from the referee in order to influence betting markets. the investigation was triggered by suspicious betting patterns of has untiljune the 3rd to provide a response although he is already publicly denied any wrongdoing, saying on social media i will fight with every breath to clear my name. elsewhere it looks as though bayern munich are closing in on vincent company as a new manager. it is understood that german giants are in advanced talks to agree compensation with burnley. kompany could not stop his side being really get it from the premier league but he is developed a good reputation
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and speaks german having previously played for hamburg. the england women have sent pakistan a target of 244 to win their opening one day international in derby. batting first, england have not looked as settled as dt 20 side that beat pakistan 3—0. they lost a steady flow of wickets before alice kathy dug into make 44, her best 0di score. in reply, pakistan are currently 51—1 off 11 overs. british cycling has received a majorfunding boost to secure future of the men and women tour of britain. lloyds bank have signed a five—year deal as title of the events. women's tour was cancelled last year because of financial problems. the tour starts in two weeks' time and finishes in greater manchester.— greater manchester. biggest challen . e greater manchester. biggest challenge for _ greater manchester. biggest challenge for british - greater manchester. biggest challenge for british cycling | greater manchester. biggest l challenge for british cycling is engaging with people who enjoy cycling in multiple different ways, whether they be active travel, leisure or any part in our sport are also but you sure we can drive
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commercial revenue that can be reinvested back. a key part of this deal is to make sure we are sustainable financially as the world changes around around us because more complex, that's really super important. and we are seeing new disciplines. we saw bmx freestyle debut in tokyo, will be showcasing lascaux and i think it prevents my iconic images in paris and we are keen to step forward and have a younger audience in different audience but also celebrate all the people who enjoy cycling. fist audience but also celebrate all the people who enjoy cycling.- audience but also celebrate all the people who enjoy cycling. people who en'oy cycling. at the she wrote to ten — people who enjoy cycling. at the she wrote to tell you, _ people who enjoy cycling. at the she wrote to tell you, the _ people who enjoy cycling. at the she wrote to tell you, the belgian - wrote to tell you, the belgian writer pittjonathan millie to claim his second victory at the race with the slovenian tadej pogacar claimed his lead for the champion and waiting. gary and thomas remained third. fortennis, rafa nadal had waiting. gary and thomas remained third. for tennis, rafa nadal had a shocking draw in the first round in paris. the 14 time champion has
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strong alexander and sverre have in the first round, not what anyone would want. rafa nadal plans to retire later in the year. the world number one on the women's side has at a much kinder opening—round drop. she faces and unseeded player. you are up—to—date with all the support. thanks so much. we'll come back to in downing street and as promised let's speak to the conservative mp laura trott who joins us now on the programme. joining me now is the conservative mp laura trott. the premise to begin the day being asked why now and let me ask you the same question. why now given that many of your own mps are said to beat bewildered by that decision and furious about it? the beat bewildered by that decision and furious about it?— furious about it? the crucial thing is that is inflation _ furious about it? the crucial thing is that is inflation is _ furious about it? the crucial thing is that is inflation is now - furious about it? the crucial thing is that is inflation is now back - furious about it? the crucial thing is that is inflation is now back to i is that is inflation is now back to normal levels, the economy has really turned a corner. so now is
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the right type of people to make a choice, a choice for a party who have a clear plan with a prime minister who will take the bold and decisive action to make sure you have a secure future for you and your family have a secure future for you and yourfamily in an increasingly unstable world. your family in an increasingly unstable world.— your family in an increasingly unstable world. ~ , ., ~ unstable world. why do you think so man of unstable world. why do you think so many of your— unstable world. why do you think so many of your colleagues _ unstable world. why do you think so many of your colleagues are - unstable world. why do you think so many of your colleagues are so - many of your colleagues are so uneasy about the timing of this decision? many think they can be out of a job in six weeks' time. they thought they had months to get things organised. there is realfury out there. things organised. there is real fury out there. ~ . , out there. well, look, i was in the house of commons _ out there. well, look, i was in the house of commons voting with . out there. well, look, i was in the i house of commons voting with many out there. well, look, i was in the - house of commons voting with many of my colleagues earlier on today, and when i saw and heard from all of them was a determination to go out there, to fight for every single vote and show that contrast between rishi sunak who has a plan, he was taking these bold and decisive steps and the labour party who want to fight this election on thin air with no policy platform whatsoever. weill. no policy platform whatsoever. well, let's talk about _ no policy platform whatsoever. well, let's talk about policy _ no policy platform whatsoever. well, let's talk about policy because one of the central planks that rishi
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sunak wants to make this election is about rwanda. does that make any sort of sense given that still no planes have taken off, at best in the automotive member you may have a few people who have been sent at best and may be the numbers from the boat crossing actually have increased? does it make sense to make rwanda so important, so critical? , , ., , make rwanda so important, so critical? , , . , . critical? this is really important dividina critical? this is really important dividing line _ critical? this is really important dividing line between _ critical? this is really important dividing line between the - critical? this is really important dividing line between the two . dividing line between the two parties, between the conservative party who have taken action last year to bring down the number of illegal people coming over here illegally, down by author last year. but we know things have to go... but it's going up again. that is why we have put the rwanda plan in place and face opposition from the labour party. it took so long to get this through parliament. we eventually did, and we have taken steps to put this in place now so flexing it up the ground as possible. but that does take time after you pass legislation, so flights as is always been the case are going to take off
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injuly. and this is an example of the choice that is facing british people at this election. but numbers are auoin people at this election. but numbers are going up — people at this election. but numbers are going up in _ people at this election. but numbers are going up in terms _ people at this election. but numbers are going up in terms of _ people at this election. but numbers are going up in terms of what - people at this election. but numbers are going up in terms of what is - are going up in terms of what is happened this year with boa rivals. effective you are saying as a party, which us on this but to look at evidence but trust us. is that enough? evidence but trust us. is that enou~h? �* evidence but trust us. is that enough?— evidence but trust us. is that enou~h? , . , , enough? i'm saying last year because of action we — enough? i'm saying last year because of action we took, _ enough? i'm saying last year because of action we took, numbers _ enough? i'm saying last year because of action we took, numbers coming . of action we took, numbers coming over here illegally were down by a third and that's in contrast with what was happening and a lot of the rest of europe. now this year what we are saying is that we have passed legislation which will mean that we can remove people who have come over here illegally to a third nation, to rwanda, and what that will mean is we will have a strong determining place. now we want to do that. we have plans in place to be to do that. we have put money aside to be able to do that, and what we want to do... �* , ., . able to do that, and what we want to do... �* i. . , . able to do that, and what we want to do... �* . , . do... but you are still at the point of guessing _ do... but you are still at the point of guessing that _ do... but you are still at the point of guessing that these _
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do... but you are still at the point of guessing that these things - do... but you are still at the point of guessing that these things are | of guessing that these things are going to actually work, and that's preposition you're putting to the public. life preposition you're putting to the ublic. ~ ~' ., , . , preposition you're putting to the ublic. ~ ~ ., , . , ., public. we know the principle of the works with that _ public. we know the principle of the works with that we _ public. we know the principle of the works with that we have _ public. we know the principle of the works with that we have seen - public. we know the principle of the works with that we have seen that l public. we know the principle of the | works with that we have seen that in many other cases, and that will be what will happen here. but the point is that this is a contrast between what we have which is a clear plan and with the labour party have which is no plan whatsoever for what they're going to do about illegal migration. they're going to do about illegal miaration. ~ . ,., they're going to do about illegal miaration. ~ . . . , migration. well, labour will already in the last few _ migration. well, labour will already in the last few weeks _ migration. well, labour will already in the last few weeks outline - migration. well, labour will already in the last few weeks outline what l in the last few weeks outline what their plan actually is but let me move on to a separate issue because rishi sunak stood here behind me yesterday making his first pitch. he talked about the furlough scheme and talked about the furlough scheme and talked about the furlough scheme and talked about being chancellor. no mention of anything to do with the wrecking ball of liz truss. no mention of the lying of boris johnson. 0urvoters mention of the lying of boris johnson. 0ur voters to forget all of that? i johnson. our voters to forget all of that? ., , johnson. our voters to forget all of that? . , . . . that? i am very clear about the workers of _ that? i am very clear about the workers of this _ that? i am very clear about the workers of this conservative i workers of this conservative government has been since 2010,
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whereby the weight we inherited an absolute economic mess in the labour party. since then what we have done is we have seen british kids being some of the best readers in the entire world. we have revolutionised the education system. we have completely changed the way our welfare system works. it pays to work for the first time. implement levels are up. youth under clement levels are up. youth under clement levels are up. youth under clement levels are down. when implement levels are down. when implement levels are down by 40%. the record of the conservative party in the last 14 years is a strong one was that now we know times of been incredibly tough recently. we have been through two major issues in the last few years alone with the pandemic and with the energy price crisis... it’s pandemic and with the energy price crisis... �*, ,., , pandemic and with the energy price crisis... �* , ,., , . crisis... it's so interesting and i'm crisis... it's so interesting and i'm sorry _ crisis... it's so interesting and i'm sorry to — crisis... it's so interesting and i'm sorry to cut _ crisis... it's so interesting and i'm sorry to cut across - crisis... it's so interesting and i'm sorry to cut across you... | i'm sorry to cut across you... apologies to cut across you but it is so interesting even if you answer me there you won't acknowledge some of the real damage that the liz truss premiership actually did to real people that you're not going out to in saying stick with us, we can make your life better. ijust don't understand why you want
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acknowledge and even engage in that as you make this proposition to the voters. �* ., ~ as you make this proposition to the voters. �* . ~ . voters. i'm talking about the kind of record of— voters. i'm talking about the kind of record of the _ voters. i'm talking about the kind of record of the conservative - voters. i'm talking about the kind| of record of the conservative party since 2010... i will completely acknowledge that during that period, mistakes were made to my mistakes by the way that were averse to by the chancellor, and i would point to decisive action that rishi sunak is taken since 18 months ago he became prime minister was of inflation was at 11%, rebuff phenomena as notjust happen here and he has taken decisive steps to bring inflation down. so is now back to normal levels and that is absolutely crucial for so many people sitting at home. ., ., ., ., at home. now he said on one of those cam aiun at home. now he said on one of those campaign stops _ at home. now he said on one of those campaign stops are — at home. now he said on one of those campaign stops are people _ at home. now he said on one of those campaign stops are people have - at home. now he said on one of those campaign stops are people have been| campaign stops are people have been looking at the figures and totting up looking at the figures and totting up the numbers and if labour get in, it will cost people an average of £2000 most of the you want to back that up with show me how you come to that conclusion? 0r that up with show me how you come to that conclusion? or are you just scaring people? 50 that conclusion? or are you 'ust scaring peopleai that conclusion? or are you 'ust scaring people? that conclusion? or are you 'ust scarin: --eole? , scaring people? so jeremy hunt said that out in a —
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scaring people? so jeremy hunt said that out in a speech _ scaring people? so jeremy hunt said that out in a speech last _ scaring people? so jeremy hunt said that out in a speech last week. - scaring people? so jeremy hunt said that out in a speech last week. and | that out in a speech last week. and this is based on analysis by the treasury, which is being done in a fully costing each of the individual policies, but it speaks to a wider point about the choice of this election. between a party, the conservative party, who cares what many people's taxes devil soaked with it it takes a difficult decisions because of the pandemic and because of what's happened with energy prices that we spent £400 billion... u, energy prices that we spent £400 billion... _, , . billion... record level since the second world _ billion... record level since the second world war. _ billion... record level since the second world war. that's - billion... record level since the second world war. that's what| billion... record level since the | second world war. that's what i billion... record level since the - second world war. that's what i was ex - lainin: second world war. that's what i was expiaining that _ second world war. that's what i was explaining that we _ second world war. that's what i was explaining that we had _ second world war. that's what i was explaining that we had to _ second world war. that's what i was explaining that we had to make - explaining that we had to make difficult decisions because of the money we spent during the pandemic and because of the money we spent to help people with their energy bills. now we had to pay for that and we took some difficult decisions in order to do that. but because of difficult decisions we are now able to start the process of bringing people's taxes to. we cut national insurance the last few events worth the hundred pound somebody sitting at home and what we said is that over time when economic conditions allow, we would like to abolish national insurance altogether. that is a clear direction of travel in a
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clear choice for people at home between the conservative party with a clear plan and the labour party he want to put up her taxes.— want to put up her taxes. again central message, _ want to put up her taxes. again central message, trust - want to put up her taxes. again central message, trust us - want to put up her taxes. again central message, trust us with | want to put up her taxes. again - central message, trust us with that plan. now let's turn to the threat in terms of electoral relief, of course he is a potential squeeze from tactical voting, but what about the real threat from reform now running third when it you look at current polling. 50 running third when it you look at current polling.— current polling. so a vote for reform is — current polling. so a vote for reform is a _ current polling. so a vote for reform is a vote _ current polling. so a vote for reform is a vote for - current polling. so a vote for reform is a vote for keir- current polling. so a vote for - reform is a vote for keir starmer for prime minister. the leader of reform said after they may or election, and if it was her but he said this was because of reform and thatis said this was because of reform and that is a clear demonstration that a vote for keir starmer as prime minister of people that are voting for reform care about immigration and care about lowering their taxes. if you want to do that, then vote for the conservative party. thea;r if you want to do that, then vote for the conservative party. they did not listen to — for the conservative party. they did not listen to you _ for the conservative party. they did not listen to you during _ for the conservative party. they did not listen to you during the - not listen to you during the local elections in her standing in nearly every seat. whatever you are saying
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in terms of your messaging, there is a real potential threat there for you and that sort of vote in terms of from the right. but you and that sort of vote in terms of from the right.— of from the right. but this is an election where _ of from the right. but this is an election where things - of from the right. but this is an election where things really - of from the right. but this is an - election where things really matter. people at home will have to make a choice, and we were in a very unstable and very uncertain world. we have what is happening in ukraine, what is happening in the middle east and with china. it's very unstable and as a result you need someone with a clear plan he was going to take bold and decisive action to secure the future for your family at home and if you want that and you're going to vote conservative.— and you're going to vote conservative. �* . ,~' ., conservative. i've asked the other -a conservative. i've asked the other party since _ conservative. i've asked the other party since i _ conservative. i've asked the other party since i will _ conservative. i've asked the other party since i will ask _ conservative. i've asked the other party since i will ask you - conservative. i've asked the other party since i will ask you the - conservative. i've asked the other| party since i will ask you the same question. can you give a guaranty in terms of the six weeks that lie ahead that this is an election that won'tjust ahead that this is an election that won't just get ahead that this is an election that won'tjust get mired in personal attacks, fear mongering. already in the first few days, keir starmer has been portrayed as a threat to
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security. are you realistically say that about the labour leader? what that about the labour leader? what really matters _ that about the labour leader? what really matters in _ that about the labour leader? what really matters in this _ that about the labour leader? twist really matters in this election is policy close to what really matters is policy, so if you look for example in our pledge on defence spending, which has not been matched by the labour party, that will have real and severe repercussions. we think it's really matters, so i will always fight these elections on policy and i think that is what really matters and there is a clear difference between us and the labour party on matters of security is a good look at what our pledges are on defence. b. good look at what our pledges are on defence. �* ., good look at what our pledges are on defence. �* . ., , .. , defence. a final thought because we are talkin: defence. a final thought because we are talking to _ defence. a final thought because we are talking to sir— defence. a final thought because we are talking to sirjohn _ defence. a final thought because we are talking to sirjohn curtis - defence. a final thought because we are talking to sirjohn curtis and - are talking to sirjohn curtis and going to the polling and you will note the polling and you don't need me to repeat it to you. simple final question, do you think you can win? yes, yes, i do. ithink question, do you think you can win? yes, yes, i do. i think we are going into this election with a clear plan, with a clear choice and what i live about politics is nothing is ever certain. upsets can and do happen and i were the underdog with my absolutely we are the underdog and art of the taking vote for
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granted, yes they are. do you think we can win?— we can win? yes, i do. laura trott there in our— we can win? yes, i do. laura trott there in our westminster - there in our westminster studio, that you so much for giving us so much of your time and thanks for joining us on the programme. just to point out in terms of day one of the election coverage, you can stay right up to date with the election coverage with still more love events planned in the coming hours and he can see continuing reaction and analysis. it's all there on the bbc news app and also on our website. looking at the clock, it is coming up looking at the clock, it is coming up to 5:50 p:m.. another really important story going on through the course of the day, the post office boss paula vennells has been giving evidence at the post of his inquiry. just give us an overview of the first of all on the thrust of the evidence and questioning today? the
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evidence and questioning today? tue: questioning evidence and questioning today? t“te: questioning today really focused on the alleged cover—up as well as what jason beer the inquiry council called controlling the narrative. now paula vennells was chief executive between 2012 and 2019. that's when sub postmasters alleged the cover—up was ongoing. something that she denies will stop now he focused on the year 2013 which was a crucial year for the post office with the bits when the forensic investigators independent forensic investigators independent forensic investigators second site were to publish their interim report into problems with the horizon system and what they could mean in terms of miscarriages ofjustice. she denied that she tried to narrow the scope because of concerns around those issues. she said instead that the executive team generally felt it was all too costly, too expensive and was not getting to a final result quick enough. now then she also asked about a report presented to
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her by susan creighton, the post office's top lawyer at the time. that report water there could be successful claims of wrongful prosecutions. now susan creighton had prepared that report for a board meeting in 2013. she was meant to deliver and submit it herself. that did not happen. this is what happened instead, take a listen. you were asked to conduct a postmortem review, _ were asked to conduct a postmortem review, is_ were asked to conduct a postmortem review, is that right? yes. were asked to conduct a postmortem review, is that right?— review, is that right? yes. in fact i think review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid _ review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i— review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i had _ review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i had to _ review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i had to get _ review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i had to get to that i review, is that right? yes. in fact i think acid i had to get to that to j i think acid i had to get to that to the camera — i think acid i had to get to that to the camera before _ i think acid i had to get to that to the camera before this meeting. | i think acid i had to get to that to - the camera before this meeting. find the camera before this meeting. and so ou the camera before this meeting. so you presented susan krait and's hoard _ so you presented susan krait and's board paper in her place?- board paper in her place? yes,... she was made — board paper in her place? yes,... she was made away _ board paper in her place? yes,... she was made away outside - board paper in her place? yes,... she was made away outside on i board paper in her place? yes,... | she was made away outside on the chair? _ she was made away outside on the chair? . .. she was made away outside on the chair? , . ., ,., chair? yes, and i felt bad about that. chair? yes, and i felt bad about that- sitting _ chair? yes, and i felt bad about that. sitting there _ chair? yes, and i felt bad about that. sitting there like - chair? yes, and i felt bad about that. sitting there like a - chair? yes, and i felt bad about| that. sitting there like a naughty school irl. that. sitting there like a naughty schoolgirl. she _ that. sitting there like a naughty schoolgirl. she must've - that. sitting there like a naughty schoolgirl. she must've felt - schoolgirl. she must've felt
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terrible. sitting _ schoolgirl. she must've felt terrible. sitting there - schoolgirl. she must've felt terrible. sitting there like l schoolgirl. she must've felt terrible. sitting there like aj terrible. sitting there like a nau:h terrible. sitting there like a naughty schoolgirl. - terrible. sitting there like a naughty schoolgirl. now. terrible. sitting there like a i naughty schoolgirl. now susan terrible. sitting there like a - naughty schoolgirl. now susan krait and was not able to present that report and instead paula vennells brought up some of the issues during the board meeting. jason beer also put it to her that the investigative team in general was trying to shield the bore from any information concerning those miscarriages of justice because they then have to disclose it to sub postmasters, parliament and even to the public. she denied that. this is how she handled that exchange. what she denied that. this is how she handled that exchange. what would ou sa to handled that exchange. what would you say to the _ handled that exchange. what would you say to the suggestion _ handled that exchange. what would you say to the suggestion that - handled that exchange. what would you say to the suggestion that this. you say to the suggestion that this is the _ you say to the suggestion that this is the executive team shielding the board _ is the executive team shielding the board from the executive team's dirty— board from the executive team's dirty laundry? | board from the executive team's dirty laundry?— dirty laundry? i would say it was completely _ dirty laundry? i would say it was completely wrong. _ dirty laundry? i would say it was completely wrong. that - dirty laundry? i would say it was completely wrong. that we - dirty laundry? i would say it was completely wrong. that we can l dirty laundry? i would say it was - completely wrong. that we can manage the roblem completely wrong. that we can manage the problem away _ completely wrong. that we can manage the problem away if _ completely wrong. that we can manage the problem away if the _ completely wrong. that we can manage the problem away if the board - completely wrong. that we can manage the problem away if the board know - the problem away if the board know they will— the problem away if the board know they will asked the proper questions, they may ensure that we disclose _ questions, they may ensure that we disclose all — questions, they may ensure that we disclose all of this stuff to sub
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postmasters come to the cc rc, to the public— postmasters come to the cc rc, to the public and the parliament? | the public and the parliament? i feel the public and the parliament? feel very the public and the parliament? i feel very strongly about that because _ feel very strongly about that because one _ feel very strongly about that because one of— feel very strongly about that because one of the - feel very strongly about that| because one of the elements feel very strongly about that - because one of the elements that was so important — because one of the elements that was so important to — because one of the elements that was so important to me _ because one of the elements that was so important to me was _ because one of the elements that was so important to me was to _ because one of the elements that was so important to me was to have - so important to me was to have the board _ so important to me was to have the board challenge _ so important to me was to have the board challenge because _ so important to me was to have the board challenge because i- so important to me was to have the board challenge because i was- so important to me was to have the board challenge because i was very| board challenge because i was very aware _ board challenge because i was very aware that — board challenge because i was very aware that i— board challenge because i was very aware that i was _ board challenge because i was very aware that i was not _ board challenge because i was very aware that i was not a _ board challenge because i was very aware that i was not a legal- board challenge because i was very| aware that i was not a legal expert. you have _ aware that i was not a legal expert. you have been— aware that i was not a legal expert. you have been there _ aware that i was not a legal expert. you have been there with _ aware that i was not a legal expert. you have been there with so - aware that i was not a legal expert. you have been there with so manyi you have been there with so many of the postmasters and mistresses in the postmasters and mistresses in the end day two of this evidence. one of them and make inning of what they have been listening to?- they have been listening to? today, they have been listening to? today, the have they have been listening to? today, they have been _ they have been listening to? today, they have been far— they have been listening to? today, they have been far more _ they have been listening to? today, they have been far more frustrated | they have been far more frustrated than they were yesterday. even then they were not securely satisfied with the answers they were hearing. they are really tired of hearing the words i don't recall, i don't remember. even worse and that we did hear paula vennells today to say my recollection is i don't recall. you can understand for people who have
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gone through this scandal, who had been the victims of this candle and avoided decades for a moment of accountability, the constantly here that refrain it can be particular frustrating and it's because the states for them are so hot. we are talking about homelessness, bankruptcy, prison sentences and living with a criminal record and at some of that being shunned by their neighbours, but their communities. one person was talking to me about the fact that she was plastered over the fact that she was plastered over the front page of her local newspaper as a thief and unfortunately she's not the only one. i've heard that several times with them little labours did not treat people very well at the time is it when they come here looking for accountability and answer us and some foreclosure and is hear us and missed reports, and simply blank spots in these executives memories, is difficult for them and it makes them relive everything they went through.
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them relive everything they went throu~h. .. , . �*, through. thanks very much. let's turn to another— through. thanks very much. let's turn to another couple _ through. thanks very much. let's turn to another couple of- through. thanks very much. let's turn to another couple of stories | turn to another couple of stories making the headlines today. a ten—year—old girl who died in a mudslide in north yorkshire has been named as leah harrison from darlington. herfamily have paid tribute to her as a "happy and bubbly" little girl. her school have called it a heartbreaking tragedy. the mudslide happened at carlton—in—cleveland yesterday fternoon. more now from our north of england correspondent let's return to the election campaign. we have been hearing from the various party leaders and another important element around reform uk because the founder and honorary president nigel farage has announced he will not stand in the election. there was speculation he might be revealed as a candidate by the leader but he is that this is not the right time. to the leader but he is that this is not the right time.— the leader but he is that this is not the right time. to be clear, there be some _ not the right time. to be clear, there be some support - not the right time. to be clear, there be some support and - not the right time. to be clear, there be some support and i'm| not the right time. to be clear, - there be some support and i'm not standing but i am campaigning will
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stop six weeks is such a short period of time to file a parliamentary constituency and promote the cause around the country. and i think rishi sunak john enough love people and myself included, is not long enough to do it. it's as simple as that but i will be 1% behind richard tyson beep campaigning all over the country and frankly today possibly immigration figures show why. we've got mass immigration with the tories, mass immigration with the tories, mass immigration filler and only reform uk saying this is not good for us. nigel farage talking to the bc. we are coming to the end of our coverage come with let's take a step backin coverage come with let's take a step back in with me throughout the course of the afternoon has been the politicaljournalist course of the afternoon has been the political journalist alicia fitzgerald. here we are, nearly at the end of day one. but if you made of it? i the end of day one. but if you made of it? .. the end of day one. but if you made ofit? . ., , the end of day one. but if you made ofit? . ., i- of it? i can certainly say it's definitely — of it? i can certainly say it's definitely going _ of it? i can certainly say it's definitely going to - of it? i can certainly say it's definitely going to the - of it? i can certainly say it's definitely going to the startj of it? i can certainly say it's i definitely going to the start of of it? i can certainly say it's - definitely going to the start of a lon- definitely going to the start of a long six— definitely going to the start of a long six weeks. six weeks to know a person— long six weeks. six weeks to know a person probably does not sound that long but _ person probably does not sound that long but if— person probably does not sound that long but if you think about how much
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information— long but if you think about how much information we have learned today that came — information we have learned today that came of the amount of speeches in the _ that came of the amount of speeches in the amount of electioneering that's— in the amount of electioneering that's gone onjust in the space of 24 hours. — that's gone onjust in the space of 24 hours, we can certainly said this is going _ 24 hours, we can certainly said this is going to — 24 hours, we can certainly said this is going to be a very long and quite nasty— is going to be a very long and quite nasty and _ is going to be a very long and quite nasty and difficult campaign for both leaders. both getting quite personal— both leaders. both getting quite personal and not afraid to get there were things and it will really hurt the other— were things and it will really hurt the other person. and very much getting _ the other person. and very much getting into what they would do if they were actually in government. rishi _ they were actually in government. rishi sunak came to say he is single pair of— rishi sunak came to say he is single pair of hands and macro —— keir starmer— pair of hands and macro —— keir starmersay— pair of hands and macro —— keir starmer say he is the candidate is manoeuvring that some hope for the public— manoeuvring that some hope for the public is _ manoeuvring that some hope for the public is what he is trying to do. thanks— public is what he is trying to do. thanks for— public is what he is trying to do. thanks for being with me to the course of what is been really busy first date. thanks for you for being with us on the programme. next up here is a bbc news at six p:m.. stay with us here on bbc news. coming up, the bbc news at six, but first, it's time for a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. the rain has felt relentless across some parts of the uk over for some of us, the rain over the last couple of days
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has felt relentless. we've seen more than 100 millimetres of rain falling in some locations in the space of 48 hours. this weather system swirled its way in from the near continent and then just sat in place, and so the rainjust kept on coming. and this area of low pressure is still going to be with us through tonight and into tomorrow, but it will be weakening. it will be loosening its grip, so the rain will continue to ease off. some heavier bursts of rain for a time across the northern isles. still quite wet for a while across central and southern parts of scotland. could see some further flooding issues here. broadly speaking, though, the rain continuing to peter out through the night. and where we see some clear skies, particularly down towards the south of england, it will actually be a little on the chilly side, maybe down to five, six or seven degrees. but that's where we'll start tomorrow morning with some spells of sunshine. further north, a good part of wales, the midlands, certainly northern england, northern ireland and scotland seeing a lot of cloud. that cloud still producing some bits and pieces of rain and drizzle, but it certainly isn't going to be as wet as it has been over recent days.
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in the sunniest spots down towards the south—east of england, temperatures will get to 19—20 degrees. and actually it does look relatively warm for this coming weekend. there will be some spells of sunshine, but also some heavy and possibly thundery showers. now, most places will actually see some dry weather on saturday. this little weather feature here trying to nose its way in from the continent. that may bring some showery rain for a timejust clipping into eastern counties of england. also a frontal system bringing cloud and rain into south—west england, the south—west of wales, parts of northern ireland by the end of the day. but in between, there should be a slice of sunshine and just one or two showers. and where we have that sunshine, temperatures peaking at about 20—21 degrees. now, as we head into sunday, there'll still be some sunny spells around, but also some pretty hefty showers. they'll be quite hit and miss. some places may avoid the showers and stay dry, others will get a real drenching with some thunder and lightning mixing in. in the sunniest spots, though, temperatures again into the high teens, maybe up to around 20 degrees celsius.
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perhaps a little bit less warm on monday. still some spells of sunshine, but also some hefty showers, especially in the north of the uk.
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at six... they're off — the first full day of general election campaigning is under way. rishi sunak zigzags across brtiain on a whirlwind tour. meanwhile sir keir starmer rallies support at a football club in kent at the start of six frantic weeks. also tonight — a ten—year—old girl has been killed in a mudslide in north yorkshire during a school trip. the post office inquiry — the former chief executive paula vennells denies trying to shut down an investigaiton into the faulty horizon it system. and he's only 23, but he's already one of the best footballers in the world —
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we speak to england's phil foden. and on sportsday later in the hour on bbc news... one of the great performances in a european final — london—born ademola lookman scores a hat trick for atalanta to win the europa league. good evening and welcome to the bbc news at six. it's only 24 hours since the prime minister sprung ajuly general election on us all. but campaigning is already in full swing. party leaders are setting off on what will be six frantic weeks of intense campaigning ahead ofjuly fourth. the prime minister has already been to events in england, wales and scotland today. the labour leader, who had no notice of what was to come, travelled to kent. the liberal democrats and the snp have also been
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setting out their stall. our political editor, chris mason has been

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