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the use of them has increased twelvefold since 2017 with over 1,200 applications in the last year. for the first time young people who have lived under these orders have spoken publicly to our reporter, ashleyjohn—baptiste. hanging with friends, making music, posting on social media, everyday things for many young people. but this girls childhood was far from normal. he was in care before she even started school. i normal. he was in care before she even started school.— normal. he was in care before she even started school. i 'ust remember bein: even started school. i 'ust remember being hungry. _ even started school. i 'ust remember being nungny. a _ even started school. i 'ust remember being nungny. e iei_ even started school. i 'ust remember being hungry, a lot of— even started school. ijust remember being hungry, a lot of fighting, - being hungry, a lot of fighting, seeing my mother getting beat up and stuff like that. having no food, having to eat dog food, sexual abuse, stuff like that. fig having to eat dog food, sexual abuse, stuff like that. a decade of failed foster _ abuse, stuff like that. a decade of failed foster placements _ abuse, stuff like that. a decade ofi failed foster placements followed, she repeatedly ran away, putting
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herself at risk of sexual and criminal expectation. when she was 13, her localauthority criminal expectation. when she was 13, her local authority applied for what is called a deprivation of liberty order. i what is called a deprivation of liberty order-— what is called a deprivation of liberty order. i felt like i needed hel- , liberty order. i felt like i needed heln, i liberty order. i felt like i needed help. i felt _ liberty order. i felt like i needed help, i felt like _ liberty order. i felt like i needed help, ifelt like i— liberty order. i felt like i needed help, i felt like i was _ liberty order. i felt like i needed help, i felt like i was not - liberty order. i felt like i needed help, i felt like i was not given l help, ifelt like i was not given help, ifelt like i was not given help, and that is not how you deal with someone.— help, and that is not how you deal with someone. these orders allow local authorities _ with someone. these orders allow local authorities to _ with someone. these orders allow local authorities to take _ with someone. these orders allow local authorities to take away - local authorities to take away vulnerable children's most basic freedoms when they are deemed at serious risk. the order was meant to keep zarha safe. i serious risk. the order was meant to keep zarha safe-— keep zarha safe. i could not do anything- _ keep zarha safe. i could not do anything. everything _ keep zarha safe. i could not do anything. everything they - keep zarha safe. i could not do anything. everything they were doing, i was there, going to the toilet, cooking something, just simply going down to the kitchen, they were watching.— they were watching. zarha was detained in — they were watching. zarha was detained in a _ they were watching. zarha was detained in a care _ they were watching. zarha was detained in a care home - they were watching. zarha was detained in a care home 60 i they were watching. zarha was i detained in a care home 60 miles away. she was not allowed a phone or
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internet access and two workers often mail would observe her 24—hour day. often mailwould observe her 24-hour da . g, often mailwould observe her 24-hour da . i, u, often mailwould observe her 24-hour da . i, i , often mailwould observe her 24-hour da. ., g, g, often mailwould observe her 24-hour da. , day. you could cry, and then they will think that — day. you could cry, and then they will think that you _ day. you could cry, and then they will think that you are _ day. you could cry, and then they will think that you are going - day. you could cry, and then they will think that you are going to i will think that you are going to harm yourself so they kind of put you on the floor. i don't believe that a teenager that is being sexually exploited should be restrained by two guys. were you in touch with people _ restrained by two guys. were you in touch with people back _ restrained by two guys. were you in touch with people back home? - restrained by two guys. were you in touch with people back home? no, | touch with people back home? no, they thought _ touch with people back home? no, they thought i _ touch with people back home? iifr, they thought i was dead because they had not heard from me. zarha they thought i was dead because they had not heard from me.— had not heard from me. zarha has onl had had not heard from me. zarha has only had one _ had not heard from me. zarha has only had one consistent _ had not heard from me. zarha has only had one consistent life - had not heard from me. zarha has i only had one consistent life through her life. when that placement broke down, she stayed in touch. i felt like i could _ down, she stayed in touch. i felt like i could trust _ down, she stayed in touch. i felt like i could trust her, _ down, she stayed in touch. i felt like i could trust her, she - down, she stayed in touch. i felt like i could trust her, she was i like i could trust her, she was always there. it like i could trust her, she was always there.— like i could trust her, she was always there. it is a compliment that shows _ always there. it is a compliment that shows that _ always there. it is a compliment that shows that in _ always there. it is a compliment that shows that in terms - always there. it is a compliment that shows that in terms of - always there. it is a compliment that shows that in terms of the l that shows that in terms of the professional roles for zarha should be in _ professional roles for zarha should be in her_ professional roles for zarha should be in herjourney through care, there _ be in herjourney through care, there are — be in herjourney through care, there are gaps.— be in herjourney through care, there are gaps. what do you think about the fact _ there are gaps. what do you think about the fact he _ there are gaps. what do you think about the fact he was _ there are gaps. what do you think about the fact he was often -
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about the fact he was often restrained by men? absolutely disgusting- _ restrained by men? absolutely disgusting- l— restrained by men? absolutely disgusting. i felt _ restrained by men? absolutely disgusting. i felt that - restrained by men? absolutely disgusting. i felt that added i restrained by men? absolutely disgusting. i felt that added to j disgusting. i felt that added to what _ disgusting. i felt that added to what she has now brought with her. she has— what she has now brought with her. she has been let down multiple times — she has been let down multiple times. ~ . ., , ., times. when the high cut for began issuint times. when the high cut for began issuing these _ times. when the high cut for began issuing these orders, _ times. when the high cut for began issuing these orders, it _ times. when the high cut for began issuing these orders, it was - times. when the high cut for began issuing these orders, it was meant| issuing these orders, it was meant to be a last resort. the government recently set out a task force on the children's commissioner for england sits on it. , , children's commissioner for england sits on it. . , ., children's commissioner for england sitson it. . ., ., ., sits on it. this is a national scandal. — sits on it. this is a national scandal, these _ sits on it. this is a national scandal, these are - sits on it. this is a national scandal, these are the - sits on it. this is a nationall scandal, these are the most memorable _ scandal, these are the most memorable of— scandal, these are the most memorable of our— scandal, these are the most memorable of our children. | scandal, these are the most - memorable of our children. they have been affected — memorable of our children. they have been affected in _ memorable of our children. they have been affected in terms _ memorable of our children. they have been affected in terms of— memorable of our children. they have been affected in terms of their - been affected in terms of their lives _ been affected in terms of their lives now— been affected in terms of their lives now after— been affected in terms of their lives now after isolated - been affected in terms of their lives now after isolated locked| been affected in terms of their i lives now after isolated locked up and taken — lives now after isolated locked up and taken away _ lives now after isolated locked up and taken away from _ lives now after isolated locked up and taken away from their- lives now after isolated locked up . and taken away from their families, but they— and taken away from their families, but they have — and taken away from their families, but they have also _ and taken away from their families, but they have also been _ and taken away from their families, but they have also been affected i and taken away from their families, but they have also been affected in| but they have also been affected in the longer— but they have also been affected in the longer term. _ but they have also been affected in the longer term.— but they have also been affected in the longer term. some might say in some instances, _ the longer term. some might say in some instances, the _ the longer term. some might say in some instances, the deprivation i the longer term. some might say in some instances, the deprivation ofl some instances, the deprivation of liberty order is a necessary resort. what would you say to that? the child is going _ what would you say to that? the child is going to harm themselves, harm _ child is going to harm themselves, harm someone _ child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also _ child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be _ child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be harmed i child is going to harm themselves, harm someone also be harmed byl harm someone also be harmed by others _ harm someone also be harmed by others we — harm someone also be harmed by others. we might _ harm someone also be harmed by others. we might need _ harm someone also be harmed by others. we might need to- harm someone also be harmed by others. we might need to protect| others. we might need to protect them _ others. we might need to protect them but — others. we might need to protect them but i — others. we might need to protect them but i cannot— others. we might need to protect them but i cannot help _ others. we might need to protect them but i cannot help but - others. we might need to protect them but i cannot help but think. them but i cannot help but think there _ them but i cannot help but think there are — them but i cannot help but think there are better— them but i cannot help but think there are better ways _ them but i cannot help but think there are better ways to - them but i cannot help but think there are better ways to achieve this _ there are better ways to achieve this. .. . . there are better ways to achieve this. ., , ., ., , ,
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this. the orders are not 'ust useful -- ou this. the orders are not 'ust useful -- you saw— this. the orders are not 'ust useful -- you saw children i this. the orders are not 'ust useful -- you saw children in i this. the orders are notjust useful -- you saw children in care - this. the orders are notjust useful -- you saw children in care and i —— you saw children in care and foster homes. some are removed from theirfamilies. that is foster homes. some are removed from their families. that is what happened to katie, who spent more than two years in her mid—teens separated from her nan and sister. my separated from her nan and sister. my nan lived near the place. i would run off, i did not want to be in this care home, i wanted to be with my family. i ran off. i remember getting dragged, literally getting dragged, i did not know, they were hiding around the corner from dragged, i did not know, they were hiding around the cornerfrom me. these were workers. they literally dragged me. these were workers. they literally dragged me— these were workers. they literally dragged me. this was not the only time when katie _ dragged me. this was not the only time when katie felt _ dragged me. this was not the only time when katie felt the _ dragged me. this was not the only time when katie felt the actions i time when katie felt the actions were excessive. i time when katie felt the actions were excessive.— time when katie felt the actions were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 — were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at _ were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at the _ were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at the time _ were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and - were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and this i were excessive. i was in the shower and i am 14 at the time and this guy is supervising me so it gets a bit weird. he said if you don't come out, i am going to bust the door down. and then hejumped on me when i was like naked. that was a guy, a support worker. length?
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i was like naked. that was a guy, a support worker-— i was like naked. that was a guy, a support worker. why did he do that? because it is — support worker. why did he do that? because it is about _ support worker. why did he do that? because it is about power. _ support worker. why did he do that? because it is about power. children | because it is about power. children services say _ because it is about power. children services say they — because it is about power. children services say they only _ because it is about power. children services say they only use - because it is about power. children services say they only use their i services say they only use their orders when hrd is extreme vulnerable and the increase is due to more young people with serious needs entering the care system. for zarha, while she views being deprived of liberty as something that has worsened her trauma, at least she has verna.— least she has verna. even now, i have my black— least she has verna. even now, i have my black days. _ least she has verna. even now, i have my black days. i _ least she has verna. even now, i have my black days. i feel i least she has verna. even now, i have my black days. i feel as i least she has verna. even now, i j have my black days. i feel as she saved me. you have! iwould be dead. i have never been loved. do you know what i am trying to say? you taught me what it was like to be loved and it is real as well. i am grateful. i am really trying to contain myself here _ am really trying to contain myself here i _ am really trying to contain myself here. .. , .. and you can hear the full story on radio 4's file on 4 programme — detained and restrained: britain's vulnerable kids, now available on bbc sounds.
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let's return to the general election, and take a closer look at scotland, where both rishi sunak and sir keir starmer have been trying to convince voters to move away from the snp, who have been the dominant party in scotland since 2007. i spoke to james walker for his thoughts on the campaign trail. from the labour point of view, the points are suggesting even in scotland they very much have the momentum and i think that is something they really want to sort of keep on sort of trucking way. and their message really is they are trying to get the tories out but also trying to get the snp out. i think msha is that both are dysfunctional parties. 0n the snp, i think there are several different messages. 0ne think there are several different messages. one is very much unity. john swinney is the nail leader
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trying to unify the pro—independence vote that has done so well in past elections. there is also this understanding in the snp right now that if they are losing votes to labour and they are not losing them because they think that labour are going to get independence, so you can see them really trying to nail sort of certain messages down, to go back down to the issues, which i think you will see from john swinney today, his so—called they of action across scotland. 5ir today, his so-called they of action across scotland.— across scotland. sir keir starmer also saying _ across scotland. sir keir starmer also saying there _ across scotland. sir keir starmer also saying there would - across scotland. sir keir starmer also saying there would be i across scotland. sir keir starmer also saying there would be no i across scotland. sir keir starmer i also saying there would be no deal between the parties under any circumstances, trying to create a real divide. circumstances, trying to create a real divide-— circumstances, trying to create a real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, ou real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, you know. _ real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when _ real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it _ real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it comes i real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, you know, when it comes to i real divide. yes, i mean, ithink, i you know, when it comes to stammer and the scottish labour leader anas sarwar, what the polls are suggesting is that they could very much bmp wise... could deliver a
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chunk that labour need, you know, uk wide. i think that they are definitely... the idea is to put the foot in. it definitely... the idea is to put the foot in. ., , , definitely... the idea is to put the foot in. , , . definitely... the idea is to put the footin. , . ., definitely... the idea is to put the footin. ,. _ foot in. it has been such a busy time for you. — foot in. it has been such a busy time for you, the _ foot in. it has been such a busy time for you, the political- time for you, the political reporters in scotland at the moment. however the electorate feeling, as they energised by all of this? what do you think?— do you think? honestly, i don't think they _ do you think? honestly, i don't think they are _ do you think? honestly, i don't think they are all— do you think? honestly, i don't think they are all that - do you think? honestly, i don't i think they are all that energised. i think... sort of... speaking for, say, our readers, i think that there is still very much... they are still very much pro—independence and very passionate about that but they don't know where necessarily the snp stand and obviously there are other pro—independence parties but they are smaller. and... i don't think they are as energised by keir starmer, so i don't really see an energised electorate, to be honest. but it is a general election and it
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is time to go now. i guess we'll what happens. the former post office boss paula vennells has completed three days of public questioning at the inquiry into the horizon it scandal, in which more than 900 subpostmasters were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software said money was missing from their accounts. her answers included more than 20 apologies, four tearful moments and boos from the gallery. 0ur international business correspondent theo leggett has more on how it unfolded. any word before you go in, miss vennells? after years of keeping a low profile, paula vennells was thrust into the spotlight this week and making her way through a scrum of cameras may have been the easy part. she started with an apology. i would just like to say, and i'm gratefulfor the opportunity to do this in person, how sorry i am for all the sub—postmasters and theirfamilies and others have suffered as a result of all of the matters that the inquiry has been looking into for so long.
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there were tears as she was asked about the death of a sub—postmaster who took his own life after being financially ruined by the post office. and i imagine that... i'm sorry. i imagine that i was probably... just pause. yes. 0k. try and compose yourself if you can, and then continue your evidence, please. she defended her role. she may have been the boss, she said, but she wasn't responsible for everything and she wasn't told everything either. you are not responsible for everything that happens underneath you. you have to rely on the advice of internal and external experts. you still continue to live in a cloud of denial. by day three of hearing her evidence, the lawyers for the sub—postmasters were clearly unimpressed and they went on the attack. i didn't know. nobody told me. ican't remember. i wasn't shown this. i relied on the lawyers.
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i have tried to do this to the very best of my ability. it is extraordinary, though, isn't it, because cartwright king, your external lawyers know all about it, and yet you're saying that you didn't, the board didn't. i mean, this is la la land, isn't it? and the sub—postmasters who were watching also seemed unconvinced. the crocodile tears did not faze me whatsoever. i was sat right at the front with my solicitor and i just wish she'd answer the questions instead of going round and round in circles with the same answers. i think she knows a lot more than what she's letting on. i think, basically, she's lying. after three days of testimony, paula venables left flanked by police, the end of another major chapter in one of the biggest scandals the uk has ever seen. theo leggett, bbc news.
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earlier i spoke to former sub—postmaster, tim brentnall to gauge his reaction to paula vennell�*s evidence. i thought she might approach these proceedings with some openness, honesty and contrition, but it is just more of the same. from what we have come to seem from witnesses at the inquiry, it is alljust lies and deflection. the inquiry, it is all 'ust lies and deflectionh the inquiry, it is all 'ust lies and deflection. . . :: ., .. . deflection. she made 20 apologies, that was not — deflection. she made 20 apologies, that was not enough _ deflection. she made 20 apologies, that was not enough i _ deflection. she made 20 apologies, that was not enough i suppose i deflection. she made 20 apologies, that was not enough i suppose and | that was not enough i suppose and she also said that line we were hearing about that she was not responsible for everything. i suppose, what they are trying to establishes who knew what and who was responsible, who took responsibility on all of this? who responsibility on all of this? who is more responsible _ responsibility on all of this? big“i;r> is more responsible in a company than the ceo. she was quite prepared to take the salary for the years that she was in that position but whenever anything awkward was put to
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her, she seemed to deny she was across the detail of absolutely anything. across the detail of absolutely an hint. .. .. across the detail of absolutely an hint, ., ., .. anything. how do you feel more tenerall anything. how do you feel more generally about _ anything. how do you feel more generally about this _ anything. how do you feel more generally about this inquiry i anything. how do you feel more generally about this inquiry and | anything. how do you feel more i generally about this inquiry and its ability to achieve anything? i generally about this inquiry and its ability to achieve anything?- ability to achieve anything? i have not ability to achieve anything? i have got confidence _ ability to achieve anything? i have got confidence in _ ability to achieve anything? i have got confidence in the _ ability to achieve anything? i have got confidence in the inquiry. i ability to achieve anything? i have| got confidence in the inquiry. from what i have seen, sir wyn and b councils are really across the issue. i think they are well aware that the problem is much more than an it problem and it was much more about the procedures and the culture within the post office. yes. about the procedures and the culture within the post office.— within the post office. yes, and are ou all within the post office. yes, and are you all right _ within the post office. yes, and are you all right to _ within the post office. yes, and are you all right to remind _ within the post office. yes, and are you all right to remind us _ within the post office. yes, and are you all right to remind us what i you all right to remind us what happened to you? it was a 20 do thousand pound shortfall that was... that week you were accused of. can you expend your situation? i was audited in late _ you expend your situation? i was audited in late 2009 _ you expend your situation? i was audited in late 2009 and - you expend your situation? i was audited in late 2009 and in i you expend your situation? i was audited in late 2009 and in -- i l you expend your situation? ibib—gs audited in late 2009 and in —— i was —— a audited in late 2009 and in —— i was -- a £22,500 audited in late 2009 and in —— i was —— a £22,500 shortfall was found which the post office demanded i
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paid back immediately to avoid a theft charge. i was then charged with false accounting which my barrister advised me to plead guilty to because if i stood up in court crown —— crown court and they said the curate would not believe me and the curate would not believe me and the post office did not provide them with any exposure to mount any kind of defence. i ended up pleading guilty to false accounting and had a conviction for that. i stayed out of prison. i had a suspended sentence for two years. but for the last decade, i have not been able to gain any kind of meaningful employment because my conviction was not quashed until 2021.— because my conviction was not quashed until 2021. quashed until2021. have you had any money back? — quashed until2021. have you had any money back? i— quashed until2021. have you had any money back? i have _ quashed until2021. have you had any money back? i have had _ quashed until2021. have you had any money back? i have had a _ quashed until2021. have you had any money back? i have had a small- money back? i have had a small interim payment. _ money back? i have had a small interim payment. but— money back? i have had a small interim payment. but because i | money back? i have had a small- interim payment. but because i have a conviction, we are going on to sue the post office. but they are insisting that we evident and document every loss that we claim
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for and that claim was taken the last three years to build. there was an extraordinary moment in parliament this week when the conservative mp craig mackinlay returned to the commons with four prosthetic limbs after losing them to sepsis last year. alex lewis from hampshire went through a similar ordeal ten years ago, also losing four limbs to sepsis. he's been speaking to linzi kinghorn about his rehabilitation. ever since i lost my limbs, it has been how do i proved myself that i can still live in amazing life and do some great things. meir. can still live in amazing life and do some great things.— do some great things. alex is a quadruple _ do some great things. alex is a quadruple amputee _ do some great things. alex is a quadruple amputee after i do some great things. alex is a| quadruple amputee after having contracted stress am 2013. doctor watson was one of the team who saved his life. he watson was one of the team who saved his life. .. ... watson was one of the team who saved his life. ., . ., ., his life. he would come in having colla-sed his life. he would come in having collapsed on _ his life. he would come in having collapsed on a — his life. he would come in having collapsed on a sunday _ his life. he would come in having| collapsed on a sunday afternoon, having been on —— having been under well for a few days and he was severely septic, so i came in on the monday morning and found him on
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absolutely maximum life support, everything, that was my first meeting with alex. and i met with his family and explain he was going to die and he —— if he had failed to achieve the target. triage to die and he -- if he had failed to achieve the target.— achieve the target. now both are teamint achieve the target. now both are teaming up _ achieve the target. now both are teaming up to — achieve the target. now both are teaming up to take _ achieve the target. now both are teaming up to take on _ achieve the target. now both are teaming up to take on an - teaming up to take on an extraordinary challenge, rowing and cycling across the south coast, something they think has never been done before. ihla something they think has never been done before-— done before. no information anywhere. — done before. no information anywhere. so _ done before. no information anywhere, so we _ done before. no information anywhere, so we have i done before. no information anywhere, so we have had i done before. no information| anywhere, so we have had to done before. no information - anywhere, so we have had to develop attachments that i can release from because i attached it to the oars with my proset x. what happens if i fall in the water? we had done all sorts of drowning drills to learn what happens. sorts of drowning drills to learn what happens-— sorts of drowning drills to learn what ha- ens. ~ ., ., . , what happens. what are your biggest concerns? the _ what happens. what are your biggest concerns? the sea _ what happens. what are your biggest concerns? the sea and _ what happens. what are your biggest concerns? the sea and the _ what happens. what are your biggest concerns? the sea and the weather. | concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing _ concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it _ concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it in _ concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it in june _ concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it in june but - concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it in june but it - concerns? the sea and the weather. we are doing it in june but it can i we are doing it injune but it can be pretty unpredictable. pathetic, how do they cope in salt water? how do i cope in salt water? in extreme
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heat? it gets to 25 degrees and will be really hot out there. we“re hot all time anyway. how will i cope with that? the rubbing, the physical degradation of my right arm, i would think, overthat degradation of my right arm, i would think, over that area of time in the water. . .. think, over that area of time in the water. . ., ., , ~ , , water. another quadruple apple tv mini kent mp _ water. another quadruple apple tv mini kent mp craig _ water. another quadruple apple tv mini kent mp craig mckinley i water. another quadruple apple tv mini kent mp craig mckinley made| mini kent mp craig mckinley made headlines this week when he returned to parliament after suffering a life—threatening episode of sepsis which led to the amputation of his hands and feet. i which led to the amputation of his hands and feet.— hands and feet. i don't think an bod hands and feet. i don't think anybody had _ hands and feet. i don't think anybody had a _ hands and feet. i don't think anybody had a dry _ hands and feet. i don't think anybody had a dry eye i hands and feet. i don't think anybody had a dry eye when| hands and feet. i don't think. anybody had a dry eye when we hands and feet. i don't think- anybody had a dry eye when we saw him go back into the house of commons was a bit was an amazing reception and i was sat there watching it and i was tingling, thinking i have had similar experiences like that and it is incredible. when i left hospital, the military was supporting, so we were a real minority. meir. the military was supporting, so we were a real minority.— were a real minority. alex open to raise money _ were a real minority. alex open to raise money for _ were a real minority. alex open to raise money for three _ were a real minority. alex open to raise money for three charities, i raise money for three charities,
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including his own, the alex lewis trust. ., , ., including his own, the alex lewis trust. . , ., ., , including his own, the alex lewis trust. . . ., ., , ., , trust. living life as an amputee has been investing _ trust. living life as an amputee has been investing for _ trust. living life as an amputee has been investing for me _ trust. living life as an amputee has been investing for me ever. i trust. living life as an amputee has been investing for me ever. and i trust. living life as an amputee has been investing for me ever. and ifl been investing for me ever. and if you could give me my arms and legs back, i would you could give me my arms and legs back, iwould not you could give me my arms and legs back, i would not take them. the last ten years, we have pattinson much. it has been incredible. let“s ta ke let's take your life to chichester. sir ed davey is out and about. it looks like he has just gone on a boat. and he is going to be sailing around i think chichester harbour. he is there to talk about water quality. you will be launching the liberal democrats sewage policy. this is an issue very dear to hearts in chichester. i was actually there just the other day doing a little programme about water quality and theissues programme about water quality and the issues there. he is targeting of course traditionally conservative areas in the south of england, sir
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ed davey, and chichester has been conservative since 1924. there he is, very brave during an election campaign, to get on a boat, but there he is, any moment now, he will be off, i suspect, launching the liberal democrats“ sewage policy in chichester. and we will hear from several of the others who are out and about today. rishi sunak has been out in yorkshire and sir keir starmer is in the west midlands. we will hearfrom them starmer is in the west midlands. we will hear from them later. it's a big day for mancunians today, as the city's rival football teams go head to head in the fa cup final at wembley stadium. kick off is at 3pm. manchester city are aiming to do the "double—double", winning the league title and fa cup twice in a row. while manchester united manager erik ten hag goes into the game with reports swirling that he could be sacked whatever the outcome this afternoon. here's our sports correspondent, natalie pirks.
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and on his whistle, we are under waym _ and on his whistle, we are under wa ., , , ., and on his whistle, we are under wa , ., .,, and on his whistle, we are under wa... .. , way... last year, fans were still takint way... last year, fans were still taking their _ way... last year, fans were still taking their seats _ way... last year, fans were still taking their seats in _ way... last year, fans were still taking their seats in the - way... last year, fans were still i taking their seats in the wembley sunshine when manchester city captain had them on theirfeet again. incredible! not many would bet against more of the same today, such as the domination of manchester city. after winning the league for a fourth successive time, they are now attempting another historically, the first team in history to achieve back—to—back doubles. the first team in history to achieve back-to-back doubles. the finals a . ainst back-to-back doubles. the finals against teams — back-to-back doubles. the finals against teams like _ back-to-back doubles. the finals against teams like united, i back-to-back doubles. the finals against teams like united, it i back-to-back doubles. the finals against teams like united, it is i against teams like united, it is always united, and in the premier league, no one was better than them, more consistent than them. the important games against the top six. always perform well. and the players know it. it will be a completely different game. “flitigr know it. it will be a completely different game.— know it. it will be a completely different tame. . . different game. city have continued evolvin: , different game. city have continued evolving. the _ different game. city have continued evolving, the united _
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different game. city have continued evolving, the united manager- different game. city have continued evolving, the united manager -- i evolving, the united manager —— managerial door has been revolving. erik ten hag“s future looks shaky with reports that today could be his last match regardless of results. we will see last match regardless of results. - will see how it goes. but he has not really had a crack of the whip. hopefully we will see how it goes in the future and see what happens. give it a couple of years and we should be back up there. i am nervous- _ should be back up there. i am nervous- i— should be back up there. i am nervous. i never— should be back up there. i am nervous. i never go _ should be back up there. i am nervous. i never go against i should be back up there. i am nervous. i never go against my own team _ nervous. i never go against my own team but— nervous. i never go against my own team but it _ nervous. i never go against my own team but it is — nervous. i never go against my own team but it is going to be hard. they— team but it is going to be hard. they are — team but it is going to be hard. they are clearly a more talented team _ they are clearly a more talented team but— they are clearly a more talented team but it _ they are clearly a more talented team but it is _ they are clearly a more talented team but it is a _ they are clearly a more talented team but it is a cup _ they are clearly a more talented team but it is a cup final, - they are clearly a more talented team but it is a cup final, a i team but it is a cup final, a one-off, _ team but it is a cup final, a one-off, just _ team but it is a cup final, a one—off, just have - team but it is a cup final, a one—off, just have got- team but it is a cup final, a one—off, just have got to i team but it is a cup final, a i one—off, just have got to hope team but it is a cup final, a - one—off, just have got to hope that the luck_ one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is— one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is oh— one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is on our— one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is on our side _ one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is on our side and - one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is on our side and we i one—off, just have got to hope that the luck is on our side and we can. the luck is on our side and we can do the _ the luck is on our side and we can do the job — the luck is on our side and we can do the job take _ the luck is on our side and we can do the job. take a _ the luck is on our side and we can do the job. take a bit— the luck is on our side and we can do the job. take a bit of- the luck is on our side and we can do the job. take a bit of glory i the luck is on our side and we can do the job. take a bit of glory for| do the job. take a bit of glory for ourselves— do the job. take a bit of glory for ourselves for— do the job. take a bit of glory for ourselves for a _ do the job. take a bit of glory for ourselves for a change. - do the job. take a bit of glory for ourselves for a change.— ourselves for a change. united almost missed _ ourselves for a change. united almost missed out _ ourselves for a change. united almost missed out on - ourselves for a change. united almost missed out on the i ourselves for a change. united almost missed out on the final ourselves for a change. united i almost missed out on the final after throwing away a lead over coventry city, eventually needing penalties to scrape through. it was symptomatic of a season where
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injuries in key positions so united league goals forfun. injuries in key positions so united league goals for fun. no goalkeeper faced more shots. we league goals for fun. no goalkeeper faced more shots.— faced more shots. we have the opportunity _ faced more shots. we have the opportunity to _ faced more shots. we have the opportunity to beat _ faced more shots. we have the opportunity to beat the - faced more shots. we have the opportunity to beat the blues. | faced more shots. we have the i opportunity to beat the blues. we have to take it. but we will not change it that much. it has been difficult for all of us. my team—mates and myself. difficult for all of us. my team-mates and myself. difficult for all of us. my team-mates and m self. . , team-mates and myself. same teams, same venue. — team-mates and myself. same teams, same venue. same _ team-mates and myself. same teams, same venue, same outcome? - team-mates and myself. same teams, same venue, same outcome? united i same venue, same outcome? united will be praying their season to forget does not end in a case of deja vu. earlier, i spoke to manchester city fan, graham keller to see how he was feeling pre—match. always a bit of nerves before a big final, a big game, especially when you play united but we have every reason to feel confident.-
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reason to feel confident. feeling reason to feel confident. feeling pretty confident. _ reason to feel confident. feeling pretty confident. every - reason to feel confident. feeling pretty confident. every reason i reason to feel confident. feeling | pretty confident. every reason to feel confident and with that comes the pressure of the expectation. yes, that's right. there is a lot of pressure on the team in particular. we are expected to win, i guess. i think if we don't win today, then there will be a lot of criticism coming our way but we have every reason to feel good about today. the double double would be something, wouldn't it? really spectacular. again, it has not been done before. plenty of time —— teams have done the double but to do it twice in two years in succession would be a great achievement for us and again it is another record that we have actually set for ourselves as well. it is re set for ourselves as well. it is pretty tough _ set for ourselves as well. it is pretty tough for _ set for ourselves as well. it is pretty tough for manchester united, i know you don't have much sympathy, but with erik ten hag and all these rumours just the day before this match, and he's seeing them and the players i suppose as well, seeing them, that is pretty rough. yes. players i suppose as well, seeing
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them, that is pretty rough. yes, it ha--ened them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to _ them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to us — them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to us back— them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to us back in _ them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to us back in 2013 - them, that is pretty rough. yes, it happened to us back in 2013 when | them, that is pretty rough. yes, it. happened to us back in 2013 when we played wigan. mancini was the manager at the time and literally the day before the final, we were told he was going to be dismissed and manuel pellegrini was going to be appointed and so that ensued. it can completely derail your final. it is not the best preparation for them, i would say. obviously you never know what will happen on the day. but i know from our perspective, when that happened to us, it was not great and it completely undermined our final. us, it was not great and it completely undermined ourfinal. it completely undermined ourfinal. it completely undermined ourfinal. it completely undermined all the preparations that had gone into that game. just preparations that had gone into that came. , , . ~' , preparations that had gone into that came. , , . ~ , ., preparations that had gone into that ame. , ., ,. game. just quickly gimme a school production- — game. just quickly gimme a school production- i _ game. just quickly gimme a school production. i am going _ game. just quickly gimme a school production. i am going to - game. just quickly gimme a school production. i am going to say - game. just quickly gimme a school production. i am going to say 3-1 l game. just quickly gimme a school| production. i am going to say 3-1 to ci . now, it's time for a look at the weather with elizabeth rizzini. hello, there. plenty of sunny spells around at times this bank holiday weekend. today is probably the best looking day for the vast majority of the next few.
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a lot of sunshine to start off the morning here in north yorkshire. we will be seeing some showers. most of those showers will pop up on sunday and bank holiday monday and they could be heavy, thundery and also slow moving too. a little bit of wet weather around, as well, this afternoon across parts of norfolk, into lincolnshire, stretching up through the east midlands with plenty of cloud here. another weather front out towards the south—west of england bringing outbreaks of rain here. but there will be a lot of dry weather around. one or two isolated showers. sunny spells developing, variable amounts of cloud and highs in the best of the sunshine of 20 or 21 degrees celsius. through this evening and overnight, outbreaks of rain will continue to spread their way further northwards. it's quite a wet night to follow with plenty of cloud, a milder night than we saw last night. temperatures for the most part will stay in double figures as we head into sunday morning. on sunday, well, it's quite a disappointingly wet start to the day.
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we've still got these weather fronts around, so we are likely to see further outbreaks of rain. we'll see some some thundery showers spark off where we get the brightest spells. for much of the northern half of the uk there will be a lot of cloud around through the morning, with some outbreaks of rain. if we do see those brighter skies, then watch out for some cloud building, heavy, thundery downpours developing, but they will be mostly across the south of england and wales. some of those showers will be slow moving, as well. largely dry across the far north of scotland. here we could see highs of around 20 degrees celsius yet again. further south, of course, underneath the cloud and the rain it's always going to be feeling cooler. still that leftover weather front as we head into bank holiday monday, so again we're expecting some heavy, thundery showers to develop as we head through the day, but also some sunny spells, it won't be raining all the time. in fact, a lot of those showers will be towards the north, they'll track eastwards, so towards western parts of the united kingdom we could even see a mostly dry end to the day perhaps. another slight drop in temperature, but still round about
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the seasonal average, which is where our temperatures will probably stay as we head through the week. it's half—term, of course. it won't be raining all the time, there will also be some sunny spells. bye— bye.
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live from london, this is bbc news. party leaders hit the campaign trail in the uk's general election and there's a growing list of tory mps who say they'll be standing down. we'll be live in chichester, the west midlands and here in the newsroom with the latest details of the campaign trails. israel has continued its attacks in gaza — including in rafah — a day after the un's top court ordered it to stop its offensive in the city. and with south africa's general election just days away — will nelson mandela's legacy be enough to secure another anc win or will voters turn away?
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hello, i'm lucy gray. we start this hour here in the uk, where party leaders are kicking off a weekend of campaigning around the country ahead of the general election on the lith ofjuly. so far today, rishi sunak has been in the north of england, where he delivered his message to voters at a pub. it comes after the cabinet minister michael gove announced that he was joining a growing list of conservative mps who will be standing down at the election. meanwhile, the labour leader sir keir starmer has been out meeting voters in the west midlands, speaking to voters at a local football ground. let's speak to our political correspondent harry farley who is in the west midlands now. what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has — what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made _ what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a _ what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a bit _ what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a bit of _ what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a bit of a - what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a bit of a habit - what's been going on there? sir keir starmer has made a bit of a habit of| starmer has made a bit of a habit of making campaign visits to lower
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