' "ow ' now we are now we are in would you like to know now we are in an election campaign which also wasn't happening last week what the leaders have to keep going on the trail? , h, a, leaders have to keep going on the trail? , a, ~ a, , trail? yes i somehow know rishi sunak will _ trail? yes i somehow know rishi sunak will have _ trail? yes i somehow know rishi sunak will have some _ trail? yes i somehow know rishi sunak will have some sort - trail? yes i somehow know rishi sunak will have some sort of- trail? yes i somehow know rishi - sunak will have some sort of energy bar or muesli thing. lilo; sunak will have some sort of energy bar or muesli thing.— bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake. bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake- he _ bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake- he has— bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake. he has loads _ bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake. he has loads of _ bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake. he has loads of tea - bar or muesli thing. no, he has cake. he has loads of tea and l bar or muesli thing. no, he has - cake. he has loads of tea and leaves the bag in so its industrial strength and keir starmer drinks coffee and then may be bits of tea later on. he isn't a snack though, no sweet tooth just the occasional bag of crisps. 50 no sweet tooth 'ust the occasional bag of crisps.— bag of crisps. so what are they eatin: bag of crisps. so what are they eating the _ bag of crisps. so what are they eating the whole _ bag of crisps. so what are they eating the whole gamut - bag of crisps. so what are they eating the whole gamut heightj bag of crisps. so what are they i eating the whole gamut height of bag of crisps. so what are they - eating the whole gamut height of it all? �* , , u, all? anything they can get. keir starmer admitted _ all? anything they can get. keir starmer admitted recently - all? anything they can get. keir starmer admitted recently even though he is a vegetarian, he had a box of chicken at some point at the end of a long day.— box of chicken at some point at the end of a long day. whether they were eatin: , we end of a long day. whether they were eating. we were _ end of a long day. whether they were eating, we were wrong _ end of a long day. whether they were eating, we were wrong on _ end of a long day. whether they were eating, we were wrong on this - eating, we were wrong on this podcast with the date. you had various dates. you are the closest. about a month ago, i did think all

we reported that there was a possibility they would call and go this summer but after the local election results which were very bad for the tories, i had thought as most people did, why would they go now? it looks like it would be so terrible. and lots of mps think it's absolutely crackers to go now even the tories are 20 points behind but here we are. notjust here we are, here we are. notjust here we are, here we are. notjust here we are, here we go. here we are. not 'ust here we are, here we go. newscast by the bbc. hello, it is — here we go. newscast by the bbc. hello, it is laura _ here we go. newscast by the bbc. hello, it is laura and _ here we go. newscast by the bbc. hello, it is laura and paddy. - here we go. newscast by the bbc. hello, it is laura and paddy. and i hello, it is laura and paddy. and so, this has been for rishi sunak it is fair to say a not good getting out of the traps and i think he's tucked away what should be a first move or advantage. he's the one who knew when it was coming and notjust the in downing street but some sort of gaffes on the road, pictures

going wrong, things like imposing at the titanic in belfast, you do that if it looks that things are going badly. it if it looks that things are going badl . ., ~' , if it looks that things are going badl. , ., badly. it takes me back to theresa ma with badly. it takes me back to theresa may with letters _ badly. it takes me back to theresa may with letters falling _ badly. it takes me back to theresa may with letters falling off - badly. it takes me back to theresa may with letters falling off in - badly. it takes me back to theresa may with letters falling off in the l may with letters falling off in the conference. we should all learn to love this about campaigns, events. if i'd been running, strangely enough i did not, it is raining very hard so you go inside. you go into the room the public paid millions for, then in there.— the room the public paid millions for, then in there. amine, several eo - le for, then in there. amine, several peeple have _ for, then in there. amine, several people have suggested _ for, then in there. amine, several people have suggested to - for, then in there. amine, several people have suggested to me, - for, then in there. amine, several| people have suggested to me, why nafta do not use the £2 million media suite where he has given many announcements in the warm and dry. the number 10 answer to that is

well, it's the done thing to stand in the street. although there was the other alternative like trusted which was drive around for 20 minutes were waiting for the rain to stop but it definitely got things off to an unbelievable start and people closely involved looked at it and thought, oh, dear.— and thought, oh, dear. timing still questionable _ and thought, oh, dear. timing still questionable and _ and thought, oh, dear. timing still questionable and style _ and thought, oh, dear. timing still questionable and style very - questionable and style very questionable. i was expecting someone to throw fish heads at him. it looks like a monty python sketch. and a know it was your home standing in downing street for a long time but its of public protest now, if it is not the bbc with the helicopter drowning things out, it is the man from the speaker playing a song from 1977. ., , ., ,., ., from the speaker playing a song from 1977. ., , a, _, a, , 1977. there was also an extremely loud, massively _ 1977. there was also an extremely loud, massively loudspeaker - 1977. there was also an extremely l loud, massively loudspeaker playing the new labour anthem, things can only get better. things can only get wetter was the joke within about 30

seconds. that's the power and authority downing street is meant to confer upon you butjust didn't work at all. you end up on day three or four or whatever with rishi sunak making jokes with veterans this morning with, oh well, at least catching pneumonia. buti morning with, oh well, at least catching pneumonia. but i think is more serious, campaigns are long, gaffes happen, no reason they can't shake out that problem just by running events tightly than they have been in not doing things like letting him pose in front of the exit sign. don't do that. more serious is the continuing level of departure from the conservative benches like michael gove, huge political heavyweights, love or loathe him, very significant figure in the conservative party is standing down.— in the conservative party is standing down. in the conservative party is standin: down. �* ., , ., ., , standing down. and would you as someone who _ standing down. and would you as someone who follows _ standing down. and would you as someone who follows his - standing down. and would you as someone who follows his career. standing down. and would you as - someone who follows his career from the start really when he was

elected... the start really when he was elected- - -_ the start really when he was elected... �* ~ ., ., �* elected... don't know what you're auoin to elected... don't know what you're going to ask _ elected... don't know what you're going to ask me- _ elected... don't know what you're going to ask me. would _ elected... don't know what you're going to ask me. would you - elected... don't know what you're i going to ask me. would you confess to a surprised? _ going to ask me. would you confess to a surprised? i _ going to ask me. would you confess to a surprised? i was _ going to ask me. would you confess to a surprised? i was surprised - going to ask me. would you confess to a surprised? i was surprised i'm i to a surprised? i was surprised i'm not a political boffin. i thought he is going to do the election then go. he was always a mine may be list because the conservatives know the lib dems are breathing down their necks, targeting him heavily even though he has a majority of 18,000... though he has a ma'ority of mount though he has a ma'ority of 18,000... a, a, ., a, , , 18,000... may ask another way? they came out at — 18,000... may ask another way? they came out at seven _ 18,000... may ask another way? they came out at seven on _ 18,000... may ask another way? they came out at seven on friday. - 18,000. .. may ask another way? they came out at seven on friday. if- 18,000... may ask another way? they came out at seven on friday. if that i came out at seven on friday. if that is key we can use a gender time, that's what took me by surprise. it that's what took me by surprise. it wasn't necessarily intended like that but i got a tip at about 530. so he was pushed? molar that but i got a tip at about 530. so he was pushed?— that but i got a tip at about 530. so he was pushed? now but these thins so he was pushed? now but these things don't _ so he was pushed? now but these things don't necessarily _ so he was pushed? now but these things don't necessarily always - things don't necessarily always happen in precisely the way you'd expect but someone as canny as michael gove who has been a journalist for a long time knows exactly what impact him announcing his departure would have on a friday

night after a couple of very bumpy first days for rishi sunak and what is also significant is he only made the decision as i understand it in the decision as i understand it in the last 36 hours before the announcement. in other words, the last 36 hours before the announcement. in otherwords, he only made the decision after the not ideal launch of the general election. that's of course makes you wonder, did he have a look at how this was unfolding and think, i don't want a part of this? this sentence. _ don't want a part of this? this sentence. i — don't want a part of this? this sentence, i do _ don't want a part of this? this sentence, i do one _ don't want a part of this? this sentence, i do one part - don't want a part of this? t'i 3 sentence, i do one part of this, could apply to theresa may, kwasi kwarteng, matt hancock, sir charles walker, endless amounts of them. but government ministers who must answer what it means for these people to leave at the same time which is now a larger number than conservatives leaving in 1997, they say people in their 60s do retire, 15 years michael gove had in government is a

long time. find michael gove had in government is a lona time. �* ., , ., , , long time. and that is absolutely true and michael _ long time. and that is absolutely true and michael gove _ long time. and that is absolutely true and michael gove is - long time. and that is absolutely true and michael gove is only - long time. and that is absolutely true and michael gove is only inl long time. and that is absolutely i true and michael gove is only in his 50s. i'm sure fans of him will be in touch saying you, 0 connell, don't suggest he is a ready sexagenarian. at every that's already the right word. let's leave the word in. i word. let's leave the word in. i think you're right. he was elected in 2005 and has been in front line politics for a long time. many people standing down likejohn redwood, greg clark who had lots of cabinetjobs, theresa may, lots of differentjobs, people who have been around for a long time going this time and also quite a few of the labour benches as well. harriet harman, margaret hodge. however, whether it is fair or not, it absolutely adds to the impression that this election is hurtling towards a big generational change and that is the impression all of these departures give out. i don't

think they are done yet.— these departures give out. i don't think they are done yet. there will be a fiuht think they are done yet. there will be a fight for _ think they are done yet. there will be a fight for the _ think they are done yet. there will be a fight for the conservative - be a fight for the conservative party even if they kept a large numbers of seats, there will be a fight for which conservative party it is because a lot of people leaving were instrumental in leading the brexit to charge and in leading the brexit to charge and in leading the fight within the conservative party against theresa may he was also leaving. so the conservative party will be changed by the selection and by these departures more than the last five. i selection and by these departures more than the last five.— more than the last five. i think that is absolutely _ more than the last five. i think that is absolutely right - more than the last five. i think that is absolutely right and - that is absolutely right and whatever the end results, and campaigns do change things, who knows what would now seem like an incredibly unlikely miracle could yet come to pass and they might somehow manage to hang on even though that is not what anybody in the conservative party at the moment believes will happen. but even if that were to happen and they end up with rishi sunak still in charge, the party he runs will be a very,

very different beast. the assumption of course at the moment is that even managing to hold labourfrom a majority and ending up in a hung parliament, one described that as the most realistic thing they could achieve, like the best realistic scenario which even that they said would be a heroic outcome on the assumption we can say to all newscasters right now in the beginning of this is rishi sunak is on his way out and there will be a fight for a new conservative leader on the other side of the selection. but, you know aoac this, politics is very unpredictable on both sides of the political divide. there is an absolute knowledge and genuine belief that voters in this country are now a very volatile group of people and just as there are millions of people who have not yet made up their minds, millions may have told pollsters in the last few months they've developed their minds

but may yet change them. this constant churning of voters, both parties are well aware of that. find parties are well aware of that. and more people _ parties are well aware of that. fific more people voted for parties are well aware of that. 2:1c more people voted for small parties are well aware of that. 2.1c more people voted for small parties than expected. streaks tonight has put on discord, will be simply standing down, how much will it affect the demographics of the parties? in the conservatives, a lot. labour may be 20. you have a couple of key bellwethers, diane abbott is a question everyone will be asking about, what happens in the inquiry and whether she keeps the whip and stands down of her own accord. �* ., , ., , accord. and there are questions while we record _ accord. and there are questions while we record that _ accord. and there are questions while we record that this - accord. and there are questions while we record that this might | accord. and there are questions i while we record that this might be the long—running dispute over whether or not she can be allowed back to sit as a labour mp. she can't because mp has been designed by the election but would she get the width back before it is likely

she would stand down? there is the suggestion this morning this could be resolved even today but we don't have any clarity on that yet. as i understand it, it has been reported in other places that she wants to be allowed back in, given dignity restored to her place as a labour mp but then with that, she would be likely to stand down which in labour circles opens up a plum labour seat and there will be a stampede of activists to get their hands on this one. , , , ., , one. cevert were sums big names still to come _ one. cevert were sums big names still to come and _ one. cevert were sums big names still to come and expect - one. cevert were sums big names still to come and expect more - one. cevert were sums big names i still to come and expect more tories to come? —— to go? i still to come and expect more tories to come? -- to go?— to come? -- to go? i do. someone said to me _ to come? -- to go? i do. someone said to me rather— to come? -- to go? i do. someone said to me rather archly _ to come? -- to go? i do. someone said to me rather archly yesterday, j said to me rather archly yesterday, one of the things i've written about this afternoon, one of the suggestions why a campaign sunak is not yet running at a full throttle shall we say and is perhaps misfiring is some of the staffers

involved are said to be partly distracted by the hunt for their own seats in parliament. 1 distracted by the hunt for their own seats in parliament.— seats in parliament. i think you will see big _ seats in parliament. i think you will see big names— seats in parliament. i think you will see big names go - seats in parliament. i think you will see big names go at - seats in parliament. i think you will see big names go at the i seats in parliament. i think you i will see big names go at the ballot box which is what we love about politics, not that people go that the public allowed to come to their mind and big names are humbled. that is what happens. find mind and big names are humbled. that is what happens-— is what happens. and the most likely candidate for — is what happens. and the most likely candidate for that _ is what happens. and the most likely candidate for that is _ is what happens. and the most likely candidate for that is jeremy - is what happens. and the most likely candidate for that is jeremy hunt, i candidate for that isjeremy hunt, grant shapps, alex chalk, less well—known butjustice secretary, a very senior and big job in the south—west of cheltenham, very much at risk from lib dems. jeremy hunt, i don't think we will see him much in the campaign trail because he is fighting so hard for his seat but jeremy hunt, grant shapps at risk as well. some people who are very well known who are definitely at risk this time round. it is known who are definitely at risk this time round. it is interesting because you _ this time round. it is interesting because you must _ this time round. it is interesting because you must talk - this time round. it is interesting because you must talk about. this time round. it is interesting - because you must talk about labour and what happens but i remember the

speculation during the year that jeremy hunt would not stand if the election went on so its important sometimes to say what was said that was wrong, many bright and political people said jeremy hunt when stant! he won't be sending! find people said jeremy hunt when stant! he won't be sending!— he won't be sending! and he always said i will stand _ he won't be sending! and he always said i will stand because _ he won't be sending! and he always said i will stand because i _ he won't be sending! and he always said i will stand because i care - said i will stand because i care about my constituency and seat and you put lots of money into fighting his own seat recently. we will see because incumbency as it is known, the personal connection mps have with their constituents, is something that can be very potent and powerful and that is another problem for the tories because if incumbency gives you another two or 3% at the ballot box, if the swathes of mps are going, that incumbency and connection with local mp also disappears as a new candidate is turning out saying hi, i mean you candidate! look how great things have been going on this campaign! that is really tough. but there are

things that are tough for labour as well. in things that are tough for labour as well. . , ., things that are tough for labour as well. ., , ,, .., ,., ., well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do — well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do for— well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do for the _ well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do for the country - well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do for the country is - well. in a six-week campaign, what she will do for the country is the - she will do for the country is the point of it. events are still fascinating, the rain, the titanic, the exit signs on the plane and keir starmer will have those moments as well. ~ . starmer will have those moments as well. . ., ., , , well. what will happen in the euros, exactl . well. what will happen in the euros, exactly- this — well. what will happen in the euros, exactly- this is _ well. what will happen in the euros, exactly. this is labour's _ well. what will happen in the euros, exactly. this is labour's plan - well. what will happen in the euros, exactly. this is labour's plan to - exactly. this is labour's plan to make work _ exactly. this is labour's plan to make work pay- _ exactly. this is labour's plan to make work pay. at _ exactly. this is labour's plan to make work pay. at the - exactly. this is labour's plan to make work pay. at the same i exactly. this is labour's plan to . make work pay. at the same time, exactly. this is labour's plan to - make work pay. at the same time, as keir starmer has said, he was to lower the beating it —— —— lower the voting age. lower the beating it -- -- lower the voting age-— voting age. labour's plan to make work -a , voting age. labour's plan to make work pay. that _ voting age. labour's plan to make work pay. that is _ voting age. labour's plan to make work pay, that is a _ voting age. labour's plan to make work pay, that is a rebrand - voting age. labour's plan to make work pay, that is a rebrand until l work pay, that is a rebrand until very recently called the new deal for working people. if you are newscast or vote are wondering what things mean, this means... what is it sunak?

what is it sound like? it sounds like roos felt.— like roos felt. generically it sounds like _ like roos felt. generically it sounds like working - like roos felt. generically it sounds like working people | like roos felt. generically it. sounds like working people will like roos felt. generically it - sounds like working people will get more rights, it will be a benefactor a thing, that workers are going to benefit. then if you think what is labour's plan to make work pay? what does that sound like? i labour's plan to make work pay? what does that sound like?— does that sound like? i thought that was more conservative _ does that sound like? i thought that was more conservative language, i does that sound like? i thought that l was more conservative language, that is what the conservatives were saying. is what the conservatives were sa in. ., is what the conservatives were sa inc. ., ., ., ., , saying. you have got it, that is the difference- — saying. you have got it, that is the difference. the _ saying. you have got it, that is the difference. the name _ saying. you have got it, that is the difference. the name change - saying. you have got it, that is the difference. the name change in . saying. you have got it, that is the | difference. the name change in and of itself is a significant thing and behind—the—scenes there has been a big argument going on, while paddy is doing some origami. this big argument going on, while paddy is doing some origami.— is doing some origami. this could have been — is doing some origami. this could have been the _ is doing some origami. this could have been the tory _ is doing some origami. this could have been the tory plan. - is doing some origami. this could have been the tory plan. it - is doing some origami. this could have been the tory plan. it could| have been the tory plan. it could have been the tory plan. it could have been _ have been the tory plan. it could have been the _ have been the tory plan. it could have been the tory _ have been the tory plan. it could have been the tory plan. - have been the tory plan. it could have been the tory plan. the - have been the tory plan. the substance of it is very different but the rebranding is very important. and there has been an almighty argument going on between the unions and labour over watering down, or not watering down some of these plans. that argument is not done. i know there are meetings

going on today and there were meetings yesterday, and there has been a battle going backwards and forwards over whether or not labour can do the full fat version of its plans, which we understand keir starmer is nervous about and some people in the business community feel nervous about the full fat version of the plans, and then particularly sharon graham, the prominent leader of the unite union, a hugely powerful affiliate of the labour party, was party goes through a sheaf of paper, who has said today the plan is like swiss cheese and is full of holes. so it will be really interesting to see where that ends up interesting to see where that ends up and if indeed all of the unions are actually willing to agree to the plan as it stands. and it would be difficult for it keir starmer not to have the support of a couple of his big unions right at the beginning of this campaign. 1 big unions right at the beginning of this campaign-— this campaign. i found it interesting _ this campaign. i found it interesting reading - this campaign. i found it interesting reading it. this campaign. i found it - interesting reading it before, that it pins down some of the successes that the last labour government

introduced. when i say success as i am quoting from this document. it said, we introduced key measures on employment and fair working practices. we introduced the national minimum wage. they did. it is intriguing for me to see that they are trying to give us bookends. there have been 111 years of conservative led government and this, which is a key announcement, will be one that needs further news analysis and which they are trying to remind voters that this is the party that also did this. so they are harking back. bud party that also did this. so they are harking back.— party that also did this. so they are harking back. and you hear that from labour — are harking back. and you hear that from labour politicians _ are harking back. and you hear that from labour politicians like - are harking back. and you hear that from labour politicians like wes - from labour politicians like wes streeting when they talk about the nhs, they say look at what happened the last time we were in charge, the nhs got better. look at the last time we were in charge, look at what happened with anti—social behaviour. with the tories say is look at the last time they were in charge, look at the economy, there was a global, financial meltdown with gordon brown and there was no money left to quote

that famous note left by liam byrne. but you are right, there is this parallel battle going on where labour is saying think back to what it was like, it was great. the tories are saying don't risk it, don't go back to the 1970s, boris johnson was making the case today, try to suggest in his first intervention to the campaign in his column in the daily mail, that going back to keir starmer and labour would be like going back in time. but which time are you going back to? are you going back to cool britannia where labour would think you had turned the tap song, or are you had turned the tap song, or are you going back to what borisjohnson would want you to believe, the winter of discontent in the 1970s? and rishi sunak has only been the prime minister since october 2022, but i wonder why? what happen? if i am going back i have to stopjust two years ago and keir starmer is also trying to say and the chaos. his words for what the tories have been doing in changing their leader

as much as they change their socks is tory chaos. so that is one of the themes that has emerged in a couple of days. themes that has emerged in a couple of da s. ~ , ,., , themes that has emerged in a couple ofdas. , ., themes that has emerged in a couple ofda s. , ., ., of days. absolutely, and i am worried somebody _ of days. absolutely, and i am worried somebody in - of days. absolutely, and i am worried somebody in labourl of days. absolutely, and i am i worried somebody in labour hq watched our documentary a couple of months ago called the state of chaos. i was nothing to do with it. it is nothing to do with you. i it is nothing to do with you. i think that is absolutely right. it is nothing to do with you. i - think that is absolutely right. we are few think that is absolutely right. - are few days in we have seen beware of events, don't go out in the rain and have a fish thrown at you and pose at an exit sign on the titanic. if you are asking me... everyone should watch for events, including local parties, including journalists, who can be wrong, as i was. , journalists, who can be wrong, as i was-- then _ journalists, who can be wrong, as i was.- then there _ journalists, who can be wrong, as i was. yes. then there are some themes and labour was. yes. then there are some themes and labour says— was. yes. then there are some themes and labour says we are going to do this and we are the party that did that before. labour gordon brown and they will link to that. we are going

to lower the voting age. we they will link to that. we are going to lower the voting age.— to lower the voting age. we still don't know _ to lower the voting age. we still don't know if— to lower the voting age. we still don't know if this _ to lower the voting age. we still don't know if this will _ to lower the voting age. we still don't know if this will be - to lower the voting age. we still don't know if this will be in - to lower the voting age. we still don't know if this will be in the i don't know if this will be in the manifesto. as has happened in scotland, labour has previously said in general elections they would like to see 16—year—olds and 17—year—olds given the vote. if you are at school and doing your gcses, do you really want to have a vote? i don't know, if you are under 18 let us know. great shout, please do that. don't think that is us just saying get in touch if you are 16 or 17. think that is us just saying get in touch if you are 16 or17.i1ouie think that is usjust saying get in touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it. you touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it- you must _ touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it. you must get _ touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it. you must get in _ touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it. you must get in touch. - touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean it. you must get in touch. we - touch if you are 16 or 17. we mean i it. you must get in touch. we don't know if it is — it. you must get in touch. we don't know if it is in _ it. you must get in touch. we don't know if it is in the _ it. you must get in touch. we don't know if it is in the manifesto - it. you must get in touch. we don't know if it is in the manifesto or- know if it is in the manifesto or not. keir starmerwas know if it is in the manifesto or not. keir starmer was asked today if you wanted it to happen and he said he wanted to see 16 and 17—year—olds voting, not the same as saying it will be in the manifesto. interesting nonetheless and by saying yesterday it is harder for him not to put it in the manifesto. but i don't think we are going to get the manifestos until maybe around the 10th ofjune. this is the

opening phase where both parties are trying to do what is known as framing, where they are saying this is our big theme. labour says change, tory says don't risk the other lot, and the detail will be filled in as we go along. aha. other lot, and the detail will be filled in as we go along. b. bit other lot, and the detail will be filled in as we go along. a bit of detail on what _ filled in as we go along. a bit of detail on what the _ filled in as we go along. a bit of detail on what the parties - filled in as we go along. a bit of detail on what the parties were | detail on what the parties were doing today. as you mentioned, rishi sunak, who is a candidate now as soon as the official moment comes, he was out with veterans at a breakfast in his constituency. he was and there was some kind of suggestion and shock horror moment online this morning saying, is he taking the day off? this is outrageous. this is a campaign. but as we recorded at 2:30pm he hasjust arrived back at hq. i don't know whether he was planning to do that or they thought we can't have the story running about him taking the day off. he story running about him taking the da off. . . story running about him taking the da off. . , ., ~

story running about him taking the da off. ., ., ~ . ,., day off. he was 'oking about the rain and day off. he was 'oking about the and try — day off. he was 'oking about the and try to — day off. he was joking about the rain and try to own _ day off. he was joking about the rain and try to own the - day off. he was joking about the rain and try to own the rain. - day off. he was joking about the i rain and try to own the rain. well, he is a very rich man. he wasjoking about it. ed davey from the lib dems was campaigning in the south of england. was campaigning in the south of encland. . .. was campaigning in the south of encland. . ~ . , . . england. talking about sewage and eve bod england. talking about sewage and everybody loves — england. talking about sewage and everybody loves saying _ england. talking about sewage and everybody loves saying talking - england. talking about sewage and. everybody loves saying talking about a load of bleep. bud everybody loves saying talking about a load of bleep-— a load of bleep. and the departing to mps a load of bleep. and the departing tory mps shows — a load of bleep. and the departing tory mps shows they _ a load of bleep. and the departing tory mps shows they are - a load of bleep. and the departing tory mps shows they are running i tory mps shows they are running away. tory mps shows they are running awa . �* . , tory mps shows they are running awa . ~ . , ., . , away. and in chichester and west sussex we _ away. and in chichester and west sussex we will _ away. and in chichester and west sussex we will see _ away. and in chichester and west sussex we will see the _ away. and in chichester and west sussex we will see the lib - away. and in chichester and west sussex we will see the lib demsl away. and in chichester and west i sussex we will see the lib dems out in those parts of the country, winchester, chichester, what they call nauseatingly, and any talk of walls, the blue wall as a college, but essentially relatively affluent conservative seats where they believe they have got a really good shout, there are about 80 of them. that is according to lib dem numbers. john swinney, the snp first minister has been trekking up a lot of miles, although i think he was going to fly to shetland but the plane couldn't take off. it is going to fly to shetland but the plane couldn't take off. it is worth sa in: plane couldn't take off. it is worth saving before _ plane couldn't take off. it is worth saying before we _ plane couldn't take off. it is worth saying before we leave _ plane couldn't take off. it is worth saying before we leave this - plane couldn't take off. it is worth i saying before we leave this episode that you can get the number of mps,

the london —— number of labour mps in scotland onto a tag. 0ne the london —— number of labour mps in scotland onto a tag. one of the big issues in our country in the last 15 years has been the snp eating the labour vote in scotland. if we are talking about themes and framing, that battleground, which we can usefully call scotland, we don't have to call it a wall, we can call it scotland. have to call it a wall, we can call it scotland-— have to call it a wall, we can call it scotland. , , ., it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall- _ it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall. we _ it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall. we went _ it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall. we went no - it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall. we went no walls . it scotland. somebody try to call it a tartan wall. we went no walls on j a tartan wall. we went no walls on newscast. keir starmer was in glasgow on day two of the campaign, which was very telling, and he was at the scottish labour launches cotton, or the labour lodge in scotland, depending which way you want to put it, en des two. that was very telling. you ask the number crunchers looking at the scale of the possible labour majority, technically at this point you don't have to say labour has to win in scotland, except from a political point of view and from a psychological point of view and from a kind of opportunity point of view,

clearly the better they do in scotland, the more healthy the overall numbers are, and also the kind of sentiment, the emotion, around labour be able to say they are the biggest party in scotland and westminster seats at least is something they would dearly like to achieve. ~ .. . something they would dearly like to achieve. ~ ~ . ., achieve. well, i think we have done what we can — achieve. well, i think we have done what we can to _ achieve. well, i think we have done what we can to say _ achieve. well, i think we have done what we can to say what _ achieve. well, i think we have done what we can to say what has - achieve. well, i think we have done what we can to say what has been i what we can to say what has been happening today and it is only saturday. happening today and it is only saturda . ~ ., happening today and it is only saturda .~ ., . happening today and it is only saturda . ~ ., . ., happening today and it is only saturda. ., . ., ., ., ., saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? _ saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? we _ saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? we are _ saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? we are going - saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? we are going to - saturday. who have you got tomorrow on the wireless? we are going to do i on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical— on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical dig _ on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical dig to _ on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical dig to say _ on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical dig to say that - on the wireless? we are going to do a safe illogical dig to say that the i a safe illogical dig to say that the swing is a thing. you need a big swing is a thing. you need a big swing whoever you are. actually, we are going to break it down into five battlegrounds which will include scotland. it will include the conservative heartland, those areas where the greens are fighting labour in those areas where reform are fighting conservatives. we are going to look the bonnet.— to look the bonnet. going under the

bonnet. to look the bonnet. going under the bonnet- we — to look the bonnet. going under the bonnet. we have _ to look the bonnet. going under the bonnet. we have got _ to look the bonnet. going under the bonnet. we have got michael- to look the bonnet. going under the . bonnet. we have got michael morpurgo on the programme. _ bonnet. we have got michael morpurgo on the programme. we _ bonnet. we have got michael morpurgo on the programme. we have _ bonnet. we have got michael morpurgo on the programme. we have got - bonnet. we have got michael morpurgo on the programme. we have got the i on the programme. we have got the home secretary _ on the programme. we have got the home secretary james _ on the programme. we have got the home secretary james cleverly - on the programme. we have got the home secretary james cleverly and l on the programme. we have got the j home secretary james cleverly and i wonder if tomorrow will be the day where we see a first big policy announcement from the tories to get into the meat and drink of this, rather than kissing babies and people having embarrassing photographs taken. the shadow chancellor rachel reeves, who wants to be the next chancellor and the first female chancellor, will also be joining us live. first female chancellor, will also bejoining us live. and we are going to be doing a lot of fact checking, as we will throughout the campaign, and we will have our first 60 seconds on sunday with john and we will have our first 60 seconds on sunday withjohn curtice, say that. fist seconds on sunday with john curtice, sa that. �* . ., ., say that. at that hour of the morning- — say that. at that hour of the morning- i _ say that. at that hour of the morning. i am _ say that. at that hour of the morning. i am going - say that. at that hour of the morning. i am going to - say that. at that hour of the morning. i am going to be i say that. at that hour of the i morning. i am going to be very aggressive _ morning. i am going to be very aggressive and _ morning. i am going to be very aggressive and fact _ morning. i am going to be very aggressive and fact checking i morning. i am going to be very i aggressive and fact checking and i am going to say no, you have never had a martini. i want a big am going to say no, you have never had a martini. iwanta big red button. 0ne reviewer suggested that if somebody is not telling the truth we should have a big red button and

it should flash on the screen if they are not telling the truth. 0r like on graham norton where they have the chair that goes backwards. anyway, all ideas gratefully received. . .. anyway, all ideas gratefully received. . ,. , ., anyway, all ideas gratefully received-— anyway, all ideas gratefully received. . ~' , . anyway, all ideas gratefully received. . ,. , . ., received. thank you very much for makin: it received. thank you very much for making it to _ received. thank you very much for making it to the _ received. thank you very much for making it to the end _ received. thank you very much for making it to the end of _ received. thank you very much for making it to the end of this - received. thank you very much for making it to the end of this one. i making it to the end of this one. well done if you have managed and we will speak to you tomorrow. goodbye. goodbye. it isa it is a bit warmer today, more sunshine around, but it is not dry everywhere as we will see in a moment. the headline for the rest of the bank holiday weekend is it will be a mixture of warm sunshine, but also heavy and thundery showers as well. this is what has been happening. this cloud is moving into the south—west, bringing some rain. and this cloud is spoiling the weather in east anglia and moving up towards the north—east of england. we could make 20 degrees around the moray firth, perhaps into merseyside and the london area. just one or two

showers. there is the first area of cloud coming in from the north sea and that will bring heavy rain northwards into scotland overnight. this rain coming into the south—west will pivot northwards and eastwards across england and wales. a lot of cloud over night and it will be turning wetter and the temperatures down to ten or 11. we start with those two areas of rain and they will move their weight northwards and the rain moves away from scotland. following on from that we will get some sunshine and showers. some showers could turn heavy and thundery and a greater risk of those slow—moving downpours will be across northern england the midlands and perhaps into suffolk as well. these are the temperatures. because there are the temperatures. because there are more showers the temperatures will not be as be as high as today. it could make 19 across east anglia and the south—east. those thundery showers still there into the early evening. the wet weather moves into scotland and fades away overnight.

heading into bank holiday monday we await more weather fronts coming in from the atlantic next week. still got low pressure close by and that will bring more showers. maybe not quite as well as early on the wet weather moves into scotland and fades away overnight. heading into bank holiday monday we await more weather fronts coming in from the atlantic next week. still got low pressure close by and that will bring more showers. maybe not quite as wet as earlier own for bank holiday monday. most of the thundery showers in scotland and the north—east of england. showers elsewhere but it is likely to be a better day across northern england, the midlands and east anglia. temperature is about 16 or 17. the temperatures will not change a great deal through the rest of the week. we will have a south—westerly wind and later in the week it may cool down from the north—west. the week ahead will remain unsettled. there will be sunshine at times but there will be sunshine at times but there will be sunshine at times but there will be spells of rain or showers and some on the heavy side.

live from london, this is bbc news. ukraine says russia has struck a busy superstore in kharkiv, killing at least two people and injuring others. this, quite frankly, at the moment, is for the ukrainians, one of the most anxious periods since those first months after the full—scale invasion more than two years ago. party leaders hit the campaign trail in the uk's general election, amidst a growing exodus of conservative mps. campaigning out in west midlands, sir keir starmer says labour will lower the voting age to 16 if its party wins.

and i am injohannesburg, south africa, just days away from crucial elections here in the country. the ruling party has just concluded the final rally is hoping it's not enough to get south africans to support it. and bbc radio 1's big weekend gets under way, with record—breaking brit award winner raye set to headline today. and she will be live here at nine o'clock on the main stage, which right now, rag and bone man. and its manchester united who beat manchester city to win the fa cup final. in celtic are winning the scottish cup finals against rangers. there's about a minute ago. hello, i'm lewis vaughanjones. we start with breaking news from ukraine. officials say russian

missiles have hit a busy diy store in kharkiv, killing at least two people