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let's get more on the uk general election. a parliamentary committee has written to rishi sunak to say the government should be prepared for the possibility of foreign interference during the general election. the letter calls on the electoral commission, the independent body overseeing elections, to issue guidance on how to spot deepfakes and other types of misinformation online, warning members of the public may not fully understand how these threats may appear. there has been a recent example of election interference using ai. over in the united states, an ai—generated robocall imitating presidentjoe biden�*s voice was commissioned by a rival political consultant to dissuade people from voting for him in new hampshire's democratic primary election. let's take a listen to the call that was obtained by cnn. it's important that you save your vote for the november election. voting this tuesday only enables the republicans in their quest to elect donald trump again.
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we spoke tojoe burton, professor of international security, lancaster university and he gave us his assessment on what exactly people should be aware of. i think there are two main trends at the moment. the first is we are in a worsening geopolitical environment. our relationship nationally and internationally with russia and china is not great. and in the last five or ten years, there's been clear evidence of both of these countries trying to subvert democratic processes in the uk, in europe, in the us and indeed elsewhere, and they're becoming increasingly brazen in doing so. the second element, i think, is the technological tools they now have at their disposal to interfere in our democracies, whether that's the political use of ransomware, whether it's synthetic media. you've just showed the clip of the robo call of a call mimicking joe biden's voice in seemingly a very authentic way, whether that's more traditional hack and leak operations or indeed disinformation disseminating
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through social media. these countries have technological tools to reach out and harm our democracy directly. there's been heightened awareness in the tech sector of these problems. and there has been evidence, for example, communiques coming out of the munich security conference recently, tech accords, where these companies are getting to together to remove malicious content on their platforms. the problem really is the scope and scale of this. companies do employ thousands of people to content moderate. but this information spreads so quickly and at such scale, it's a very actually difficult to take down. and indeed, there's the fine line between what you take down and whether that could be considered legitimate information or disinformation.
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so there were some real challenges for the tech company in this space. you know, one of the things that i know they are doing is trying to develop new technologies which would enable us to identify deepfakes and synthetic media more easily, things like widgets embedded in web browsers, for example, that could watermark synthetic content. but ultimately, technology is not the solution. we've got to be more be more proactive as governments and also as individual people. and in trying to protect ourselves in this space. one thing you can do is look at the source of it. and that's the same for all cybersecurity. if it's a phishing email that doesn't quite look authentic, look at the source, look at where it's come from, in terms of synthetic audio or video or pictures. where is this content being hosted? you know, we do have, you know, legitimate,
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well—established news organisations, the bbc included, that are not likely to carry this content and will have fairly robust mechanisms to take that content down or establish whether it's a fake before it's posted. so i'd encourage everyone to question the source of the content, to have conversations with their families about whether they think it's real or fake, to not trust everything they see on the internet. and this really, i think, is going to involve a multi—year public awareness around this new technology. the us state department has said it is deeply concerned by china's military drills and has strongly urged restraint. we'll be looking ahead to the newspapers shortly its for that. the us state department has said it is deeply concerned by china's military drills and has strongly urged restraint.
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earlier, i spoke to zhou bo, a retired senior colonel in the chinese people's liberation army who is now with the tsinghua university in beijing. he gave his reaction to the us response. this kind of reaction from mainland china can be expected because, yeah, i believe the united states would have expected that. otherwise, how can he become more bold, with this kind of a provocation? yes, it's because we did it before, after nancy pelosi's visit to taiwan. so there should be no surprise. so that demonstrates that determination of the people's republic of china as well as the nation over the chinese military. but it's notjust in taiwan that china has been exercising that kind of pressure, is it? i mean, we've seen that chinese ships have been doing the same to japan. we've also seen it in the philippines, where they've resorted to kind of ramming and water cannon to keep philippine ships away from the disputed shoals in the south china sea. is this a pattern of essentially bullying by china? no, i don't think so. i think you are putting too many
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questions all together. if i just tell you honestly that between china and the philippines is a filipino who actually have killed chinese, what would you think? they killed china in 2000, in 2006, in 2013, against the innocent china's fishermen. and china has not killed even a single filipino. and using the water cannon is actually a kind of deterrence, i would say, as a minimum use of deterrence. just to go back to taiwan, though, what is the plan from china? i mean, if taiwan continues to say the things it's been saying, is the plan to attack taiwan and what's the timescale? well, i think we are still confident about peaceful reunification. i believe on taiwan issues, there are two facts. one is taiwan would not move away. second, taiwanese is on the side of mainland china. but i think the world should understand that china is still talking about a peaceful reunification and for peace to prevail in the taiwan strait, i think the whole world need to convince beijing that peace is still possible. just to bring you to the rhetoric
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that's come out of the chinese foreign ministry on when the drills started, taiwan independence forces will be left with their heads broken and blood flowing after colliding against a great trend of china achieving complete unification. that doesn't sound like conciliatory language. well, this kind of language is a kind of a traditional chinese language, which basically means that this kind of independent move or separatist move is doomed. so that's it. what about, i mean, we know that the us is unhappy about the way things are going between taiwan and china, and there's been a bit of a rapprochement there between china and the us. is this continuing kind of battle with taiwan jeopardizing the relationship with, with the us and potentially all the trade that comes with that? that is a very complicated question. but to make it simple, the united states really has a big role in this taiwan issue, because we believe that at least the united states has not made it quite clear about what the taiwanese authorities should do,
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because even president biden got the four times in saying something like defending taiwan, while at the same time he would talk about adherence to one—china policy. so we read this as a kind of a confusing, contradictory signals. so in order not to escalate things in the region, because presumably it is quite dangerous to have these kind of exercises that could potentially go wrong or turn into something bigger, what do you think needs to happen to to bring the temperature down? i think that the taiwanese authorities should return to this kind of consensus that both sides belong to one china. so that is a kind of minimum request. it's not something sophisticated. it was recognised by the party. so i think with this kind of a consensus that all of us belong to one china, then we can negotiate everything. increasing numbers of england and wales�* most vulnerable children are being detained in sometimes unregulated conditions by local
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authorities under measures known as "deprivation of liberty" orders. the use of them has increased 12—fold since 2017 with over 1,200 applications in the last year. for the first time, one young woman who has lived under these orders has spoken publically to our reporter ashleyjohn—baptiste. hanging with friends, making music, posting on socials, everyday things for many young people. but zarha's childhood was far from normal. she was in care before she'd even started school. ijust remember being hungry. a lot of fighting. seeing my mum get beat up and stuff like that. having no food, having to eat dog food, sexual abuse, stuff like that. a decade of failed foster placements followed. she repeatedly ran away. when she was 13, her local authority applied for what's called a deprivation of liberty order. ifeel like i needed help.
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i feel that i wasn't given help. i was put in a place, locked away. that's not how you deal with someone that's been through trauma. these orders allow local authorities to take away vulnerable children's most basic freedoms when they're deemed at serious risk. the order was meant to keep zarha safe, but she says it did anything but. it was literally horrible. i felt trapped. i couldn't do nothing. everything i was doing, they was there. whether i'm going toilet, cooking something, just simply going down to the kitchen, they was watching. zarha was detained in a care home 60 miles away. she wasn't allowed a phone or internet access. two workers, often male, would observe her 2a hours a day. they could restrain you for the simple fact of you going into crisis. so you could cry and then they'll think that you're going to harm yourself so they can put you on the floor. i don't believe that a teenager that's been sexually exploited
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should be restrained by two guys. when the high court first began to issue these orders, it was meant to be a last resort, but their use has rocketed in the last seven years. the government recently set up a task force and the children's commissioner for england sits on it. this is an absolute national scandal. these are the most vulnerable of our children. some might say, in some instances, a deprivation of liberty order is a necessary resort. what would you say to that? we might need to protect them, but i can't help but think there are better ways to achieve this. children's services say they only use dol orders when a child is extremely vulnerable, and the increase is due to more young people with serious needs entering the care system. ashleyjohn—baptiste, bbc news. more on the elections in south africa now. black majority rule is three decades old this year, a period in which the african national congress party has dominated politics.
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president cyril ramaphosa and the anc are in danger of losing their majority for the first time. fergal keane, who reported on the end of apartheid, has returned to south africa and sent this report — revisiting one family, to hear their story, of the last 30 years. it was one of those rare shining moments. fergal archive: the end of the order of racial discrimination, of segregation, the end of the age of pain and humiliation for millions of black south africans. an extraordinary story unfolding... fergal archive: white rule on the continent of africa came to an end at 7:00 south african time this morning. ..when history shuffled forward with the promise of equality and justice for all. 30 years later, loud and energetic, democracy has endured. the ruling anc talks of promises delivered
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on housing and services, but it's presided over a massive corruption. fergal archive: it is dawn on the margins of existence... back in 1994, they hoped for a very different south africa. hopes i heard from the poor of the squatter camps. i want to live in a nice house with my children, because i'm suffering. i want to be the same like the white people. a single mother, cynthia mthebe scavenged on a dump for tin cans which she sold to feed her seven children. if you don't work, you can't eat. you must work very hard. now, as south africa prepares to vote, i've come back to find out what's happened to cynthia and her hopes. i'd meet her again in a rural area, where she'd come to escape the squalor and crime of the squatter camps.
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i'm so happy to see you. but cynthia, now 78, is blind and ill. it's so lovely. yeah. it's you, fergal! it's me. you can't see me at the moment, can you? but you can hear me. there we go. she has a house — but built by her children, not the state. no running water, frequent power cuts. what do you think of how the country is now? oh, south africa. there's no life. there's no life in south africa. cynthia escaped from this, but apartheid's legacy of poverty and anc corruption have hurt. son amos was shot by criminals and is lame. he can't find a job. daughterjoyce, also among the more than 30% of unemployed people. they survive because daughter doris set up her own small shop
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and helps everyone else. ok, guys, i'm going to show you something here that you've never seen. the mthebes asked us to see the old film of their lives. on laptop: you must work very hard. do people get sick?... _ in their reaction, the measure of what's been endured. on laptop: fergal keane, bbc news. things are better now, but still we're still pulling hard. so my mother, i want to thank this lady. because of her, i'm who i am. i really, mum, i love you. and i want to be like you. back in 1994, cynthia's shack was demolished in the last days of apartheid. forward to now, a few kilometres from where ifirst met her.
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the destroyed shacks of a new generation. the homeless, in the world's most unequal society, where the top 10% own 86% of the wealth. this land is slated for development, including houses for the poor. but the waiting is long. in the meantime, shotguns keep trespassers at bay. there's people suffering. but they can say, "vote for me, vote for me," always. that's why i was saying, i'm not going out to vote. i'm staying at home. singing. the generations of mthebe women, like so many other of this nation's poor, who, when elections have come and gone, will be holding theirfamilies and their country together.
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fergal keane, bbc news, klipgat, south africa. more on the elections in south africa now. now let's take a look at what's on the front pages of tomorrow's newspapers. the mail on sunday highlights the pm's promise to bring back national service, calling it a "radical plan to force all 18—year—olds to serve in the military for 12 months or give up weekends to carry out civic duties". the sunday express is putting the same quote on the front page. the article says: "over—18s to be called up for "�*civic duty�* to restore british pride." and the sunday telegraph also leads with rishi sunak�*s first major policy announcement of the election campaign. quoting the pm's vow to create a "renewed sense of pride in our country". the observer leads with labour's rachael reeves slamming "reckless" sunak over £61; billion tax cut pledges. the shadow chancellor accuses the tories of making unfunded spending commitments. and finally the sunday mirror
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focuses on the tv couple eamonn holmes and ruth langsford, who are divorcing after 1a years of marriage. the couple blame work for their separation, says �*the sunday people', which is also leading on the story of eamonn and ruth. with me is now is our political correspondent, leila nathoo. thank you for coming in. this national service idea, it is all over the papers, what do you reckon? pretty eye—catching policy from the tories, could give us an indication of the kind of strategy they are pursuing in this campaign, something to get people talking, after all they are coming from barry far behind in the polls, how do they shape up in election campaign where many people think they have a tall order to get back ahead. they are saying if they win the next general election, by the end of the next parliament, they will bring back mandatory national service for every
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18—year—old, mandatory service ended in the 1960s. what they are proposing well involving either applying for a 12 month placing in the armed forces are in cyber defences, they said they will fund 30,000 of them, full—time placements, by the end of the parliament, oryou placements, by the end of the parliament, or you would have to volunteer resonating year old in your community for one weekend a month. organisations such as charities, police, the nhs. it doesn't seem at this stage that we've got very much detail on this, they say they are going to set up what is called a royal commission to design it, that will work out things like how much people will be paid, what the sanctions will be if someone refused to do it, it is monetary, after all, someone refused to do it, it is monetary, afterall, but someone refused to do it, it is monetary, after all, buti someone refused to do it, it is monetary, after all, but i think it will certainly get noticed, this policy, labour describe it as desperate but it is certainly something to people talking. presumably, all of these things, they would have done the focus groups and polling committee something they have found is popular
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with the public?— with the public? well, i don't know, rishi sunak — with the public? well, i don't know, rishi sunak has _ with the public? well, i don't know, rishi sunak has talked _ with the public? well, i don't know, rishi sunak has talked about - rishi sunak has talked about opportunities for young people, he references in this, the party is talking about the sense of national purpose that was cultivated during covid, he thinks that is something that could be cut back by a scheme like this, he's talking like opportunities for young people who are out of training, designed to scale people up. they would portray it as something as bringing together various threads they have been trying to focus on during the campaign buti trying to focus on during the campaign but i think, you know, it is interesting to see this come out on day four, something a bit out of the blue, designed to get people... it will probably be quite divisive, people who think it is a great idea and people who will rubbish eight but quite interesting, if you think that the tories having struggled for a long time to attract younger voters, has been a lot of talk about that in recent years, so this, going after 18 not a lot of detail yet, but they say it will cost two and a half billion pounds by the end of
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the parliament so they are prepared to put money behind it, even in the details aren't worked out yet, vaguely think it will be popular with parents of young people. today, we had laboured _ with parents of young people. today, we had laboured among _ with parents of young people. today, we had laboured among different - we had laboured among different focus for young people, that is to bring down the age of voting. it has been labour — bring down the age of voting. it has been labour policy _ bring down the age of voting. it has been labour policy for _ bring down the age of voting. it has been labour policy for quite - bring down the age of voting. it has been labour policy for quite a - bring down the age of voting. it 1:3 been labour policy for quite a long time, it has been in manifestos, three past labour manifestos, that they want to reduce the voting age to include 16 and 17—year—olds are so massive includes —— day three on saturday, a muted day of campaigning, divorce wasn't a standout theme, there was talk on the economy, something labour are talk about again tomorrow. he will hear it again and again, these slogans, labourwill hear it again and again, these slogans, labour will be told most abilities change, trying to draw attention to the economic chaos that came under a tory government, that is their strategy for tomorrow. but today, a warning from the institute
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of fiscal is about the parties need to be honest about the challenge ahead. the lib dems will talk about sewage today, that is one of the key pledges from the nhs, cost of living, and will potent —— water companies dumping sewage in rivers. we had rishi sunakjoke about the fact that people have been handing him valour is, that is him trying to turnit him valour is, that is him trying to turn it into something he can laugh about this stage, rather than being an image that is damaging. —— handing him outand an image that is damaging. —— handing him out and umbrellas. he has handing him out and umbrellas. he: has certainly been trying to style it out says that drenching. he has talked about not being a fair weather politician. it has been mentioned every time he has gone out, notjournalists, but they were inches of him speaking to veterans inches of him speaking to veterans in a pub in north a lead and one of them did mention it so he's talking about someone giving him umbrellas now. rishi sunak has obviously found
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out quickly, keir starmer as well, the lib dems focusing on the south of england, the seas they think they can win and take off the tories, rishi sunak was back in london, spotted outside conservative headquarters, bit of speculation about whether it was a strategy meeting. plenty more to come from all the parties in this campaign. he mentioned the lib dems, interesting that they chose sewage as their first big topic. that they chose sewage as their first big tonic— that they chose sewage as their first big topic. they have chosen nhs, first big topic. they have chosen nhs, cost _ first big topic. they have chosen nhs. cost of _ first big topic. they have chosen nhs, cost of living, _ first big topic. they have chosen nhs, cost of living, and - first big topic. they have chosen| nhs, cost of living, and sewage. because they are going after seizing rural areas, because they are going after seizing ruralareas, rivers, because they are going after seizing rural areas, rivers, sits in the south coast, they think that is playing well for them and i have got their eyes on seats where they have come second to the tories and they think they can make some gains that said they think this is an issue that voters are bringing up on the
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doorstep and i think the tories will be penalised from voters where it has been a big issue.— has been a big issue. thank you. time for the _ has been a big issue. thank you. time for the webinar. _ has been a big issue. thank you. time for the webinar. -- - has been a big issue. thank you. time for the webinar. -- time i has been a big issue. thank you. | time for the webinar. -- time for time for the webinar. —— time for the weather. hello there. there were some warm weather around on saturday. top temperatures of 22 celsius in the south east, but we'll start to see some changes for the second half of the bank holiday weekend with sunny spells and thundery downpours moving in, all thanks to low pressure close by. as we head into sunday, these weather fronts will be pushing their way northwards, bringing outbreaks of rain, the odd heavier burst as it pushes northwards. but as we head into the latter parts of the morning, into the afternoon, sunshine will appear pretty widely for england, wales and northern ireland and that'll sets off some heavy and thundery downpours at times. further north, we'll continue to see some showery rain with a bit of sunshine across northern scotland, but that will impact the temperatures not quite as warm as saturday. highs of 16 to 19 degrees as we head through sunday night, though.
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as we head through sunday night, though, showers and thunderstorms rattle on for a while into the evening before fading out for england and wales with clear skies here, but further cloud, patchy rain likely across the northern half of the country and temperatures range from around 9 to 11 degrees. so into our bank holiday monday, it looks like that weather front continues to push northwards. so that's where we're going to see some of the heaviest of the showers across the north and east of scotland. we'll start off with some sunshine around, but again, showers will develop and pretty much anywhere i could catch a heavy anywhere could catch a heavy maybe thundery shower. but the focus of them will be across northern and east of scotland and maybe northeast england. maybe later in the day, something a bit drier and brighter pushing into western areas. but temperatures a few degrees down, still 15 to 17 degrees, still quite pleasant in any sunshine. as we head into tuesday, low pressure starts to move in off the atlantic starts fine. the atlantic. starts fine across scotland, northern england, the sunshine begins to fade as cloud breeze rain starts to push up
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from the south and the west. there'll be mainly patchy in nature, but conditions will go downhill through the day, though i think the northeast of scotland and the northern isles should largely escape and stay dry until after dark. and temperature wise again, the mid to high teens, the mid to high teens. low pressure is with us then as we move through the middle part of the upcoming week. but then the signs of it moving away in this area of high pressure wants to topple in from the west, so that should slowly settle things down, i think, towards the end of the week and as we head into next weekend, increasing dry weather with some sunshine. so should start to feel a touch warmer to.
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live from washington. this is bbc news. russia bombs a superstore in ukraine's second city of kharkiv, killing at least four people. in the uk — party leaders hit the campaign trail in the general election — amid a growing exodus of conservative mps. and — a video shared by donald trump appearing to reference nazi germany sparks controversy. our reporter has been investigating its origins. hello, i'm helena humphrey. glad you could join me. ukraine's president, volodymyr zelensky, says a deadly air strike on a crowded superstore is an act of �*russian madness�*. officials say at least four people were killed and more than thirty others injudred on saturday, when two glide bombs
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struck the d—i—y store in ukraine�*s second city, kharkiv. an air raid warning sounded moments before explosions tore through the building, starting an intense fire. the ukrainian leader again urged western allies to send more air defences to ukraine. ukraine�*s military says the two glide bombs that hit kharkiv were among a0 that russia dropped on ukrainian army positions and civil infrastructure saturday. the ukrainian military says russian forces are continuing their offensive in the kharkiv region, with six attacks repelled by the ukrainian military. the bbc�*sjeremy bowen is in kharkiv — i spoke to him a short while ago. very good you with us. this air strike took place on a crowded super store there and ukraine�*s second—largest city, what more can you tell us? it�*s second-largest city, what more can you tell us?— you tell us? it's the weekend, re you tell us? it's the weekend, pretty nice — you tell us? it's the weekend, pretty nice day _ you tell us? it's the weekend, pretty nice day and _ you tell us? it's the weekend, pretty nice day and people - you tell us? it's the weekend, i pretty nice day and people were buying stuff for their gardens and
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