oui’ our special coverage breaking news— our special coverage continues with history being made in new york as donald trump becomes the first former us president to be convicted of criminal charges after a manhattanjury convicted of criminal charges after a manhattan jury found convicted of criminal charges after a manhattanjury found him guilty on all 3a counts in order to cover up an alleged affair that threatened to derail his 2016 campaign. mr trump will be sentenced onjuly the 11th. here's what he said at the manhattan criminal court. this was a disgrace. this was a rigged trial by- a conflicted judge who was corrupt this was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge who was corrupt. it's a rigged trial, a disgrace. they wouldn't give us a venue change. we were at 5% or 6% in this district, in this area. this was a rigged, disgraceful trial that the real verdict is going to be november 5th by the people and they know what happened here and everybody knows what happened here. you have a suspect, da,

and the whole thing. i'm a very innocent man, and it's ok. i'm fighting for our country. i'm fighting for our constitution. our whole country is being rigged right now. this was done by the biden administration in order to wound or hurt an opponent, a political opponent. and i think it'sjust a disgrace. and we'll keep fighting. we'll fight till the end and we'll win because our country has gone to hell. we don't have the same country any more. we have a divided mess where nation in decline, serious decline, millions and millions of people pouring into our country right now from prisons and from mental institutions, terrorists. and they're taking over our country. we have a country that's in big trouble. but this was a rigged decision right from day one with a conflicted judge who should have never been allowed to try this case — never. and we will fight for our constitution. this is long from over. thank you very much.

that was the statement from donald trump. live to new york, where our correspondent nada tawfik is following the trial. just take us through what you've been seeing and hearing. yeah, sumi, a slow moment in lower manhattan. you can see around me just the amount of police presence. the united states's media here as far as the eye can see. those who despised donald trump remained in the park. there is a shadow celebration when the news got to them that he had been found guilty.

but what about what happened inside of the courtroom? joining me is my colleague kayla epstein, who was there. kayla, what a historic moment to witness. first of all, donald trump, when thejury to witness. first of all, donald trump, when the jury started to recount by account that he was guilty, was the demeanour? ht recount by account that he was guilty, was the demeanour? it was like the air— guilty, was the demeanour? it was like the air turned _ guilty, was the demeanour? it was like the air turned to _ guilty, was the demeanour? it was like the air turned to stone - guilty, was the demeanour? it was like the air turned to stone when i like the air turned to stone when they read — like the air turned to stone when they read out the guilty verdicts one by— they read out the guilty verdicts one by one. as each count and guilty verdict _ one by one. as each count and guilty verdict rolled over him, donald trump — verdict rolled over him, donald trump was completely motionless. i couldwt— trump was completely motionless. i couldn't see his face, but his body language — couldn't see his face, but his body language with some of the still is i've ever— language with some of the still is i've ever seen. he didn't move, didn't_ i've ever seen. he didn't move, didn'tjester, hejust i've ever seen. he didn't move, didn'tjester, he just sat there as they said — didn'tjester, he just sat there as they said guilty, guilty, guilty. these — they said guilty, guilty, guilty. these jurors sat through five weeks of testimony. ultimately, it took them 11 hours to come to this decision, a decision they knew would have a historic impact notjust on

holding donald trump accountable, but on a presidential election. did you get a sense they were overwhelmed by that moment? the 'ury actually looked — overwhelmed by that moment? the 'ury actually looked quite �* overwhelmed by that moment? the 'ury actually looked quite serious * overwhelmed by that moment? the 'ury actually looked quite serious and h actually looked quite serious and they did — actually looked quite serious and they did look very sombre, but they didn't_ they did look very sombre, but they didn't look— they did look very sombre, but they didn't look overwhelmed to me. throughout the entire trial, they have _ throughout the entire trial, they have looked like people who knew the weight _ have looked like people who knew the weight of the job that they had to do, weight of the job that they had to do. but _ weight of the job that they had to do, but also focus on their task. with— do, but also focus on their task. with the — do, but also focus on their task. with the foreman was called upon, he did so_ with the foreman was called upon, he did so in_ with the foreman was called upon, he did so in a _ with the foreman was called upon, he did so in a clear, loud voice and never_ did so in a clear, loud voice and never appeared to my ears to waiver. when _ never appeared to my ears to waiver. when the _ never appeared to my ears to waiver. when the judge asked them to all go one by— when the judge asked them to all go one by one _ when the judge asked them to all go one by one and say what they believed, _ one by one and say what they believed, they all said guilty — again. — believed, they all said guilty — again, some not as loudly, but all in a clear— again, some not as loudly, but all in a clear voice. i again, some not as loudly, but all in a clear voice.— in a clear voice. i think it struck all of us how— in a clear voice. i think it struck all of us how donald trump - in a clear voice. i think it struck - all of us how donald trump publicly has slam to this judge as conflicted. he has such a mild manner in the court. when the

verdict was read, what advice did he give tojurors when verdict was read, what advice did he give to jurors when they completed their civicjury? give to jurors when they completed their civiciury?_ their civic “ury? justice has been a reall their civicjury? justice has been a really- -- he _ their civicjury? justice has been a really... he make _ their civicjury? justice has been a really... he make sure _ their civicjury? justice has been a really... he make sure it- their civicjury? justice has been a really... he make sure it doesn'tl really... he make sure it doesn't disrupt— really... he make sure it doesn't disrupt their lives any more, and when _ disrupt their lives any more, and when they— disrupt their lives any more, and when they were done, he thanked thenl~ _ when they were done, he thanked then he — when they were done, he thanked them. he said he had watched how much _ them. he said he had watched how much care — them. he said he had watched how much care they had put into it. it was very— much care they had put into it. it was very much a moment for the judge as well _ was very much a moment for the judge as well he _ was very much a moment for the judge as well. he seemed proud of the jury for taking _ as well. he seemed proud of the jury for taking on this enormous burden and doing _ for taking on this enormous burden and doing their work as the law said they had _ and doing their work as the law said they had to — and doing their work as the law said they had to— they had to. alvin bragg was the first prosecutor _ they had to. alvin bragg was the first prosecutor in _ they had to. alvin bragg was the first prosecutor in the _ they had to. alvin bragg was the first prosecutor in the former - first prosecutor in the former president —— two ring charging at the former president. ultimately it has an outside impact now. it has resulted in of a guilty verdict, but let's turn back to donald trump. as

he left, he turned to his family and in that moment, did he? the he left, he turned to his family and in that moment, did he?— in that moment, did he? the only family member _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in court _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in court with - in that moment, did he? the only family member in court with him. in that moment, did he? the only i family member in court with him was erictrunlp. — family member in court with him was eric trump, his second eldest son. as trump — eric trump, his second eldest son. as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who— as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who is— as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who is sitting in the front row, _ eric, who is sitting in the front row, and — eric, who is sitting in the front row, and he _ eric, who is sitting in the front row, and he seemed to grab his upper arm row, and he seemed to grab his upper arnl or— row, and he seemed to grab his upper arnl or his _ row, and he seemed to grab his upper arm or his chest in a moment of a fatherly— arm or his chest in a moment of a fatherly gesture, while i don't know who was— fatherly gesture, while i don't know who was comforting who, he did reach out for— who was comforting who, he did reach out for the _ who was comforting who, he did reach out for the closest family he had at the moment before he walked out without _ the moment before he walked out without saying a word. it�*s the moment before he walked out without saying a word.— without saying a word. it's so interesting — without saying a word. it's so interesting to _ without saying a word. it's so interesting to cover - without saying a word. it's so interesting to cover this - without saying a word. it's so interesting to cover this trial| without saying a word. it's so - interesting to cover this trial both from outside here in manhattan and in the courtroom, and of course, it all comes together when donald trump speaks to the press, reacts to this. it was interesting, he was his normal defiant self, but he made a comment that ultimately the real verdict is going to be november the 5th in the election essentially. he

promised that he is going to keep fighting. sitting through, when donald trump has called this case politically motivated, you sat there and heard this evidence. was there any surprise that the jury did find donald trump guilty based on the evidence? how overwhelming and compelling was it? i evidence? how overwhelming and compelling was it?— compelling was it? i wasn't in the 'u room compelling was it? i wasn't in the jury room and _ compelling was it? i wasn't in the jury room and no-one _ compelling was it? i wasn't in the jury room and no-one will- compelling was it? i wasn't in the jury room and no-one will know l jury room and no—one will know unless— jury room and no—one will know unless they— jury room and no—one will know unless they allow the jurors to speak, — unless they allow the jurors to speak, but we know the prosecution told a _ speak, but we know the prosecution told a very— speak, but we know the prosecution told a very compelling, cohesive narrative — told a very compelling, cohesive narrative from start to finish from opening _ narrative from start to finish from opening to — narrative from start to finish from opening to closing that laid out a detailed — opening to closing that laid out a detailed narrative of what they allege — detailed narrative of what they allege trump had done. they brought reanls _ allege trump had done. they brought reanls of— allege trump had done. they brought reams of evidence, text messages, e-nlails. _ reams of evidence, text messages, e—mails, testimony from 20 people — nlost _ e—mails, testimony from 20 people — most of— e—mails, testimony from 20 people — most of them key players. and they really _ most of them key players. and they really went — most of them key players. and they really went over every single piece of evidence they could and presented them to— of evidence they could and presented them to the jury. while we may never know— them to the jury. while we may never know what _ them to the jury. while we may never know what is— them to the jury. while we may never know what is the decisive piece of evidence, — know what is the decisive piece of evidence, they clearly dodged one of the biggest question marks in this

case: _ the biggest question marks in this case, which is michael cohen's credibility. so much of this case hinged — credibility. so much of this case hinged on — credibility. so much of this case hinged on him. he has committed perjury— hinged on him. he has committed perjury in— hinged on him. he has committed perjury in the past. lawyers relentlessly hammered him the entire time. calling him at one time the greatest — time. calling him at one time the greatest liar of all time. you can see that — greatest liar of all time. you can see that the prosecution was able to back up— see that the prosecution was able to back up his — see that the prosecution was able to back up his case with enough... sorry. _ back up his case with enough... sorry. his — back up his case with enough... sorry, his testimony with enough evidence — sorry, his testimony with enough evidence that clearly, the jury was able to— evidence that clearly, the jury was able to see — evidence that clearly, the jury was able to see past cohen's flaws. we've — able to see past cohen's flaws. we've seen donald trump's evolution here in new york from real estate mogul, reality tv star, president ultimately, and now convicted felon. for lawyers here have called him a con man, none other than robert de niro a few days ago, there were celebrations that broke out in the park here. many came out with

statements including the bite harris campaign, saying that donald trump mistakenly believed he would never face consequences for breaking the law —— biden—harris campaign. american people face a simple reality. the only way to keep him out of the oval office, says the biden �*s campaign. the white house saying they respect the rule of law and have no way of knowing... speakerjohnson, he was here during the campaign. he was saying this was a shameful day, purely a political exercise. when you reflect on the campaigns ahead, you pick how do you think donald trump will use this to try to get out of the political danger that he faces with independent voters was blue we will

hear about this verdict every day until election day until november. trump is going to use it to rally support trump is going to use it to rally su .0 i ., trump is going to use it to rally su lo . ., , trump is going to use it to rally suo-ll ., , trump is going to use it to rally suohi ., , trump is going to use it to rally suo... ., , ., trump is going to use it to rally suo-ll ., , ., ., support from his base. he has done a ve lood support from his base. he has done a very good job — support from his base. he has done a very good job keeping _ support from his base. he has done a very good job keeping his _ support from his base. he has done a very good job keeping his supporters| very good job keeping his supporters close to _ very good job keeping his supporters close to him. meanwhile, we will see joe biden— close to him. meanwhile, we will see joe biden attacking donald trump's fitness _ joe biden attacking donald trump's fitness for office based off of this — fitness for office based off of this we _ fitness for office based off of this. we talked about sentencing in july, this. we talked about sentencing in july. right— this. we talked about sentencing in july, right before the republican national— july, right before the republican national convention, where he will officially— national convention, where he will officially become the republican nominee. this will have ripple effects — nominee. this will have ripple effects. we can't get into the minds of voters _ effects. we can't get into the minds of voters right now, but pulling has shown _ of voters right now, but pulling has shown most voters —— some voters nlight— shown most voters —— some voters might turn— shown most voters —— some voters might turn away from trump if he is convicted _ might turn away from trump if he is convicted |t— might turn away from trump if he is convicted. ., , , , . might turn away from trump if he is convicted. , , . ., , ., ,, convicted. it has been such a stark difference seen _ convicted. it has been such a stark difference seen donald _ convicted. it has been such a stark difference seen donald trump - convicted. it has been such a stark. difference seen donald trump having to sit day after day in this courtroom silent, observing the

decorum of the courtroom, at least outside. outside, almost violating the gag order. he did ten times ultimately in this trial. but now he is somewhat unleashed. he will now be out on the campaign trail dale day after day. across the country. donald trump's campaign already fundraising off of this. butjust in terms of the historic importance of this moment, is there anyone who faced anything like what donald trump is facing with these other cases coming up, into november? this is such an unprecedented territory for political inc. campaign. the us has never seen _ for political inc. campaign. the us has never seen a _ for political inc. campaign. the us has never seen a president - for political inc. campaign. the us i has never seen a president convicted of a felony — has never seen a president convicted of a felony. the closest we probably canle _ of a felony. the closest we probably came in _ of a felony. the closest we probably came in modern memory is richard nixon, _ came in modern memory is richard nixon, and — came in modern memory is richard nixon, and he left office before he

could _ nixon, and he left office before he could be _ nixon, and he left office before he could be charged. we already knew this would — could be charged. we already knew this would be an election unlike any other— this would be an election unlike any other and _ this would be an election unlike any other and i— this would be an election unlike any other and i think we are entering sonle _ other and i think we are entering some very— other and i think we are entering some very seriously uncharted territory. _ some very seriously uncharted territory, with huge implications. the legal— territory, with huge implications. the legal team tried to get an acquittal even after the verdict, saying michael cohen committed perjury. there is some real potential for appeal. walk us through what kind of process this will be in if it will be resolved before the election.— will be in if it will be resolved before the election. nada, we wrote a story about _ before the election. nada, we wrote a story about together, _ before the election. nada, we wrote a story about together, so _ before the election. nada, we wrote a story about together, so we - before the election. nada, we wrote a story about together, so we know| a story about together, so we know legal _ a story about together, so we know legal experts told us they could be called _ legal experts told us they could be called upon. one of them is stormy daniels's_ called upon. one of them is stormy daniels's testimony. she was asked

very details of her alleged sexual encounter with donald trump in the 2000s _ encounter with donald trump in the 2000s. she went to sit so much detail, _ 2000s. she went to sit so much detail, the — 2000s. she went to sit so much detail, the lawyers called for a nlistriai~ — detail, the lawyers called for a mistrial. the judge denied it, but said some — mistrial. the judge denied it, but said some of it should have been left unsaid — said some of it should have been left unsaid and were over the line. there _ left unsaid and were over the line. there are — left unsaid and were over the line. there are questions are brought to whether— there are questions are brought to whether or— there are questions are brought to whether or not you entered territory that was _ whether or not you entered territory that was inappropriate for the scope of this— that was inappropriate for the scope of this trial~ — that was inappropriate for the scope of this trial. another possible point — of this trial. another possible point is — of this trial. another possible point is the way these charges were structured _ point is the way these charges were structured that he had to have been trying to— structured that he had to have been trying to conceal or commit a second crinle _ trying to conceal or commit a second crime by— trying to conceal or commit a second crime by falsifying these documents, there is— crime by falsifying these documents, there is room for trump's lawyers to push _ there is room for trump's lawyers to push back— there is room for trump's lawyers to push back on— there is room for trump's lawyers to push back on the interpretation of the law— push back on the interpretation of the law here. even though the judge followed _ the law here. even though the judge followed the law as written, we might _ followed the law as written, we might see trump's team trying to poke _ might see trump's team trying to poke holes in how the da built their case _ poke holes in how the da built their case we _ poke holes in how the da built their case. we expect them to appeal when they file _ case. we expect them to appeal when they file their appeal. we will have more _ they file their appeal. we will have more answers. is they file their appeal. we will have more answers— they file their appeal. we will have more answers. is interesting because the idea as a — more answers. is interesting because the idea as a state _ more answers. is interesting because the idea as a state prosecutor, - more answers. is interesting because the idea as a state prosecutor, he - the idea as a state prosecutor, he doesn't have the jurisdiction to

charge a second crime. but the judge made clear thatjurors could choose whether the second crime was tax fraud or new york state election laws or federal laws. we saw all of this information online, meaning there didn't need to be unanimous verdicts. but that was just simply not the case. but it really fit into this argument that this was a rigged trial, a false trial. how much you think donald trump is going to keep litigating this and the points of this, along with conservative commentators and republicans in congress? remember, it isn'tjust donald trump. there are high profile republicans who have come down here to say this is a weaponisation of the criminals are soon system. i the criminals are soon system. i think we're going to see donald trump — think we're going to see donald trump doing what he has done the whole _ trump doing what he has done the whole trial~ — trump doing what he has done the whole trial. attacking the case,

attacking — whole trial. attacking the case, attacking the prosecutor and perhaps the judge _ attacking the prosecutor and perhaps the judge. we will hear from continuously call the credibility and this— continuously call the credibility and this merges into question. we will probably see most of his allies rally behind him. his supporters star congress trying to stop the election— star congress trying to stop the election -- _ star congress trying to stop the election —— stormed. i think we can e>

just arrived at trump tower. there he is in manhattan at trump tower. if you've been there, you know this is on fifth avenue, and hejust made his way with his motorcade from the criminal courthouse. you can see that crowd of supporters, that's who he was waving his fist at. we don't know if they're all supportive, but we do see a crowd of people gathered there — an historic moment again. just about an hour ago, if you're joining us, we saw the verdict go down. donald trump convicted on all 34 down. donald trump convicted on all m counts on falsifying business 31l counts on falsifying business records. first time we've ever seen a president convicted of a crime. we've heard some of those fascinating details from our correspondents who were outside. the verdict was read out that he was found guilty on all m counts. we saw his son eric trump walking behind him on the street. we heard

that detail from our correspondent that detail from our correspondent that all trump put his hand on his son's arm or his chest as he walked by. so, there you see just outside trump tower the number of people gathered there. there is media, there are people — possibly supporters, possibly opponents or critics also — but we saw donald trump waving at that crowd before he entered trump tower. surrounded by his security detail and his son eric trump. we saw him speak at the courthouse just before he left. he called the verdict a disgrace and he attacked the judge and jury, saying he couldn't get a fair trial in new york. i want to bring back annemarie mcavoy. just want to get your take on some of what we've heard there.

it's been certainly unprecedented in so many ways, and i'm sure at the moment the verdict came in and caught us all. where you feel, you understand how monumental, and where his freedom is now definitely at stake. he's been gagged into as far as not being able to discuss much and now thisjudge is going to have the ability to decide whether he actually put him injail the ability to decide whether he actually put him in jail whether or not he put them onjail or in house arrest. whether under probation supervision, that may also limit his travel and his activities. there are all kinds of restrictions that can come with this verdict. it is

certainly is monumental. of course, they're of the campaign issues, as now he can certainly be called a convicted felon because that's what he is right now. that could well hurt him with many of the voters who may feel uncomfortable voting for him now. on the other hand, it may also make him a martyr amongst some of the voting public who will now feel like this was unfair. it was certainly unprecedented. there are lots of people who feel this case has never been brought if it was not donald trump. violent felons who don't get prosecuted in new york city. here, it's a business record case, and he was prosecuted for six weeks. so, there are two sides and there will certainly be very strong feelings on both.— there will certainly be very strong feelings on both. faith, what do you think? touching _ feelings on both. faith, what do you think? touching on _ feelings on both. faith, what do you think? touching on what _ feelings on both. faith, what do you think? touching on what annemarie| think? touching on what annemarie said, the think? touching on what annemarie said. the real— think? touching on what annemarie said, the real question _ think? touching on what annemarie said, the real question right - think? touching on what annemarie said, the real question right now. think? touching on what annemarie said, the real question right now is| said, the real question right now is what _ said, the real question right now is what do _ said, the real question right now is what do americans in the middle think— what do americans in the middle think about this? there's no question— think about this? there's no question that one thing americans had in _ question that one thing americans had in common today is this was a

-ut had in common today is this was a gut clenching moment. no matter what side you're _ gut clenching moment. no matter what side you're on, everyone pauses. it's side you're on, everyone pauses. it's as— side you're on, everyone pauses. it's as if— side you're on, everyone pauses. it's as if it — side you're on, everyone pauses. it's as if it were the eclipse. there's— it's as if it were the eclipse. there's no— it's as if it were the eclipse. there's no question of the importance of american life. folks in the _ importance of american life. folks in the middle will... will they even wonder— in the middle will... will they even wonder if— in the middle will... will they even wonder if this case was a trivial case: _ wonder if this case was a trivial case, will— wonder if this case was a trivial case, will they find that a convicted felon should not be in the white _ convicted felon should not be in the white house? will they think this is 'ust white house? will they think this is just politics as usual in our day and age? — just politics as usual in our day and age? orwill just politics as usual in our day and age? or will they think about a sense _ and age? or will they think about a sense of— and age? or will they think about a sense of fairness. ? former president _ sense of fairness. ? former president front has said he is not received — president front has said he is not received a — president front has said he is not received a fair trial, what about the people in new york? what about the people in new york? what about the da's _ the people in new york? what about the da's duty here? what about the jurors _ the da's duty here? what about the jurors who— the da's duty here? what about the jurors who have been attacked? what about _ jurors who have been attacked? what about the _ jurors who have been attacked? what about the witnesses who have been attacked? _ about the witnesses who have been attacked? what about justice annemarie three and his family. all

people _ annemarie three and his family. all people share, including former president trump, and do they feel comfortable no matter what they think— comfortable no matter what they think of— comfortable no matter what they think of these charges, novel or otherwise _ think of these charges, novel or otherwise. what they might think of this case, _ otherwise. what they might think of this case, which was extraordinarily thorough. _ this case, which was extraordinarily thorough, which did not perhaps have the weight— thorough, which did not perhaps have the weight of some others criminal charges _ the weight of some others criminal charges. will that be enough to return— charges. will that be enough to return voters away? that's the real question _ return voters away? that's the real luestion. ~ , , ~ ., question. absolutely, annemarie. we're still looking _ question. absolutely, annemarie. we're still looking at _ question. absolutely, annemarie. we're still looking at these - we're still looking at these pictures of downtown manhattan. we are just months away from a pivotal election where donald trump is one of the two leading candidates. that is something we have to keep in mind. that is a backdrop to all of this. ijust want mind. that is a backdrop to all of this. i just want to mention that the district attorney alvin bragg will actually speak in about nine minutes' time. that will be interesting to here. i want to come back to what we heard from the

biden—harris campaign. it's a donald trump has never thought he would face consequences but today's verdict does not change the fact. there is only one way to keep donald trump out of the oval office at the ballot box. he will be the republican nominee for president. it goes on to say the threat he poses it is never been greater. he is running an increasingly unhinged campaign of revenge and retribution, pledging to be a dictator on day one and calling for the constitution to be terminated so he can regain and keep our." "a second trump term means violence in the american people will reject this in november." that was the statement that was issued just about an hour ago from the biden—harris campaign. annemarie,

we've talked about whether that was a good idea for the biden—harris to comment, but they point to something we heard donald trump say in our reporter referenced. he said the real verdict is going to be on november the 5th. it’s real verdict is going to be on november the 5th. it's absolutely true, and obviously _ november the 5th. it's absolutely true, and obviously in _ november the 5th. it's absolutely true, and obviously in the - november the 5th. it's absolutely true, and obviously in the end, i november the 5th. it's absolutely true, and obviously in the end, it| true, and obviously in the end, it will be the decision of the voters as to who the next president is. there is no question that this trial in this verdict will weigh very heavily on the minds of all the voters. there are those, as faith just mentioned, will way out what happened. there a lot of voters too who i think will not follow the trial as closely as certainly we have, and they may look back now and try to figure out if this is something that bothers them or not, and they will try to figure out what was this political? was this a witchhunt? is thisjust was this political? was this a witchhunt? is this just one more attack on donald trump? it certainly

is unprecedented. he's never had an administration go after an opponent before in a criminal case. given that it's a business record case, it's certainly an unusual type of case to go after somebody in this type of environment where we are so close to the election as well. all of this is going to be factored in by the voters, and some will find it more problematic than others that he has now been convicted. others will feel it's just part of the witchhunt, which they feel has been going on for many years already against trump. brute going on for many years already against trump-— going on for many years already against trump. we still see these ima . es against trump. we still see these images outside _ against trump. we still see these images outside trump _ against trump. we still see these images outside trump tower. - against trump. we still see these images outside trump tower. i i against trump. we still see these i images outside trump tower. i want to bring richard painter back. we've talked about the implications of this. donald trump being the leading republican campaign. just looking at that, to many of his supporters, as

annemarie said, this verdict will make him all the more a martyr. well, first of all, i wish the biden—harris _ well, first of all, i wish the biden—harris will— well, first of all, i wish the biden—harris will said - well, first of all, i wish the i biden—harris will said nothing well, first of all, i wish the - biden—harris will said nothing about it. biden—harris will said nothing about it they— biden—harris will said nothing about it. they shouldn't _ biden—harris will said nothing about it. they shouldn't have _ biden—harris will said nothing about it. they shouldn't have because - biden—harris will said nothing about it. they shouldn't have because thisj it. they shouldn't have because this has nothing — it. they shouldn't have because this has nothing to— it. they shouldn't have because this has nothing to do— it. they shouldn't have because this has nothing to do with _ it. they shouldn't have because this has nothing to do with the biden - has nothing to do with the biden administration. _ has nothing to do with the biden administration. that's _ has nothing to do with the biden administration. that'sjust- has nothing to do with the biden administration. that's just fake i administration. that's just fake news — administration. that's just fake news it's— administration. that's just fake news. it's false, _ administration. that's just fake news. it's false, this _ administration. that's just fake news. it's false, this was - administration. that's just fake news. it's false, this was a - news. it's false, this was a prosecution _ news. it's false, this was a prosecution brought- news. it's false, this was a prosecution brought by. news. it's false, this was aj prosecution brought by the news. it's false, this was a _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district attorney, _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district attorney, who _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district attorney, who is _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district attorney, who is an _ prosecution brought by the manhattan district attorney, who is an elected . district attorney, who is an elected county— district attorney, who is an elected county district _ district attorney, who is an elected county district attorney, _ district attorney, who is an elected county district attorney, just - district attorney, who is an elected county district attorney, just like i county district attorney, just like all over— county district attorney, just like all over the _ county district attorney, just like all over the us. _ county district attorney, just like all over the us. this _ county district attorney, just like all over the us. this is _ county district attorney, just like all over the us. this is not - county district attorney, just like all over the us. this is not a - all over the us. this is not a prosecution _ all over the us. this is not a prosecution by— all over the us. this is not a prosecution by the - all over the us. this is not a prosecution by the biden - prosecution by the biden administration. - prosecution by the biden administration. indeed, i prosecution by the biden i administration. indeed, the prosecution by the biden - administration. indeed, the two federal— administration. indeed, the two federal prosecutions— administration. indeed, the two federal prosecutions have - administration. indeed, the two federal prosecutions have not i administration. indeed, the two. federal prosecutions have not yet been _ federal prosecutions have not yet been tried — federal prosecutions have not yet been tried in— federal prosecutions have not yet been tried in their _ federal prosecutions have not yet been tried in their cases - federal prosecutions have not yet been tried in their cases broughtl federal prosecutions have not yet i been tried in their cases brought by an independent— been tried in their cases brought by an independent prosecutor. - been tried in their cases brought by an independent prosecutor. there's not one _ an independent prosecutor. there's not one administration _ an independent prosecutor. there's not one administration persecutingl not one administration persecuting another~ _ not one administration persecuting another~ that's _ not one administration persecuting another. that'sjust_ not one administration persecuting another. that'sjust fake news. - not one administration persecuting| another. that'sjust fake news. the biden-harris — another. that'sjust fake news. the biden—harris campaign _ another. that'sjust fake news. the biden—harris campaign is _ another. that'sjust fake news. the biden—harris campaign is making i biden—harris campaign is making things— biden—harris campaign is making things worse _ biden—harris campaign is making things worse by— biden—harris campaign is making things worse by making - biden—harris campaign is making i things worse by making comments biden—harris campaign is making - things worse by making comments the way they— things worse by making comments the way they do _ things worse by making comments the way they do. voters _ things worse by making comments the way they do. voters need _ things worse by making comments the way they do. voters need to _ way they do. voters need to understand _ way they do. voters need to understand and _ way they do. voters need to understand and i— way they do. voters need to understand and i believe - way they do. voters need to| understand and i believe will understand _ understand and i believe will understand what's— understand and i believe will understand what's going - understand and i believe will understand what's going onl understand and i believe will- understand what's going on here — donald _ understand what's going on here — donald trump _ understand what's going on here — donald trump in _ understand what's going on here — donald trump in new— understand what's going on here — donald trump in new york- understand what's going on here — donald trump in new york faces i understand what's going on here — i donald trump in new york faces not only this _ donald trump in new york faces not only this criminal— donald trump in new york faces not only this criminal felony _ only this criminal felony conviction, _ only this criminal felony conviction, but- only this criminal felony conviction, but a -

only this criminal felony conviction, but a civil. only this criminal felony i conviction, but a civil fraud conviction _ conviction, but a civil fraud conviction. sexual- conviction, but a civil fraud conviction. sexualassault, conviction, but a civil fraud - conviction. sexualassault, slander, conviction. sexual assault, slander, defamation. — conviction. sexualassault, slander, defamation, millions— conviction. sexualassault, slander, defamation, millions of— conviction. sexualassault, slander, defamation, millions of dollars - defamation, millions of dollars where — defamation, millions of dollars where he — defamation, millions of dollars where he has _ defamation, millions of dollars where he has been _ defamation, millions of dollars where he has been found - defamation, millions of dollars| where he has been found liable defamation, millions of dollars - where he has been found liable for enormous — where he has been found liable for enormous sums. _ where he has been found liable for enormous sums. donald _ where he has been found liable for enormous sums. donald trump . where he has been found liable fori enormous sums. donald trump has where he has been found liable for. enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of— enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of legal— enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of legal problems _ enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of legal problems for _ enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of legal problems for a _ enormous sums. donald trump has a lot of legal problems for a reason. i lot of legal problems for a reason. it is lot of legal problems for a reason. it is not _ lot of legal problems for a reason. it is not because _ lot of legal problems for a reason. it is not because people are - it is not because people are persecuting _ it is not because people are persecuting donald - it is not because people are persecuting donald trump. | it is not because people are i persecuting donald trump. it's because — persecuting donald trump. it's because of— persecuting donald trump. it's because of his _ persecuting donald trump. it's because of his own _ persecuting donald trump. it's because of his own conduct. i i persecuting donald trump. it's. because of his own conduct. i was persecuting donald trump. it's- because of his own conduct. i was a repubiican— because of his own conduct. i was a republican for— because of his own conduct. i was a republican for 30 _ because of his own conduct. i was a republican for 30 years. _ because of his own conduct. i was a republican for 30 years. i— because of his own conduct. i was a republican for 30 years. i wish - because of his own conduct. i was a republican for 30 years. i wish i- republican for 30 years. i wish i could _ republican for 30 years. i wish i could be — republican for 30 years. i wish i could be a — republican for 30 years. i wish i could be a republican _ republican for 30 years. i wish i could be a republican again. i. republican for 30 years. i wish i. could be a republican again. i want to vote _ could be a republican again. i want to vote republican _ could be a republican again. i want to vote republican in _ could be a republican again. i want to vote republican in november. i could be a republican again. i want i to vote republican in november. the republican _ to vote republican in november. the republican party— to vote republican in november. the republican party has _ to vote republican in november. the republican party has an _ to vote republican in november. the republican party has an opportunity. republican party has an opportunity to choose _ republican party has an opportunity to choose a — republican party has an opportunity to choose a good _ republican party has an opportunity to choose a good nominee. - republican party has an opportunity to choose a good nominee. they . republican party has an opportunity i to choose a good nominee. they have many _ to choose a good nominee. they have many talented — to choose a good nominee. they have many talented people _ to choose a good nominee. they have many talented people in _ to choose a good nominee. they have many talented people in the - many talented people in the republican— many talented people in the republican party. _ many talented people in the republican party. they- many talented people in the republican party. they do i many talented people in the i republican party. they do not many talented people in the - republican party. they do not need to nominate — republican party. they do not need to nominate donald _ republican party. they do not need to nominate donald trump. - republican party. they do not need. to nominate donald trump. whether republican party. they do not need - to nominate donald trump. whether or not he _ to nominate donald trump. whether or not he won— to nominate donald trump. whether or not he won the — to nominate donald trump. whether or not he won the primaries _ to nominate donald trump. whether or not he won the primaries before - to nominate donald trump. whether or not he won the primaries before he - not he won the primaries before he was convicted _ not he won the primaries before he was convicted. once _ not he won the primaries before he was convicted. once again, - not he won the primaries before he was convicted. once again, i- not he won the primaries before he was convicted. once again, i urge i was convicted. once again, i urge the republican— was convicted. once again, i urge the republican party— was convicted. once again, i urge the republican party to _ was convicted. once again, i urge the republican party to give - was convicted. once again, i urge the republican party to give this. the republican party to give this serious — the republican party to give this serious consideration. _ the republican party to give this serious consideration. will- the republican party to give this serious consideration. will theyl serious consideration. will they nominate — serious consideration. will they nominate a _ serious consideration. will they nominate a viable _ serious consideration. will they

nominate a viable candidate - serious consideration. will theyl nominate a viable candidate that what _ nominate a viable candidate that what many — nominate a viable candidate that what many americans _ nominate a viable candidate that what many americans such - nominate a viable candidate that what many americans such as i nominate a viable candidate that - what many americans such as myself, a political— what many americans such as myself, a political independent, _ what many americans such as myself, a political independent, would - what many americans such as myself, a political independent, would love i a political independent, would love to see _ a political independent, would love to see the — a political independent, would love to see the republican _ a political independent, would love to see the republican nominee. . a political independent, would love| to see the republican nominee. i'm not going _ to see the republican nominee. i'm not going to — to see the republican nominee. i'm not going to vote _ to see the republican nominee. i'm not going to vote for— to see the republican nominee. i'm not going to vote for donald - to see the republican nominee. i'm| not going to vote for donald trump. there _ not going to vote for donald trump. there are _ not going to vote for donald trump. there are no — not going to vote for donald trump. there are no signs— not going to vote for donald trump. there are no signs of— not going to vote for donald trump. there are no signs of the _ there are no signs of the republican party moving any other way. we've seen several speakers and lawyers calling this a sham, a disgrace, saying they will fight on. donald trump himself saying this corrupt trial has come to an end and he's been convicted and urging his supporters to continue to donate money. faith, there are of course, if anyone is wondering, no rules blocking candidates with a criminal record from running for president. but what are some of the limitations on donald trump's time? he's been in court the last six weeks not campaigning as much, but going forward on the sentencing, what is he facing?

forward on the sentencing, what is he facinl? ,, ., , ., he facing? essentially, former president trump _ he facing? essentially, former president trump is _ he facing? essentially, former| president trump is unleashed. he facing? essentially, former i president trump is unleashed. in terms _ president trump is unleashed. in terms of— president trump is unleashed. in terms of the time he will have to be in court _ terms of the time he will have to be in court for— terms of the time he will have to be in court for a — terms of the time he will have to be in court for a legal proceeding, it is minimal— in court for a legal proceeding, it is minimal to nonexistent. certainly, his legal team will be busy— certainly, his legal team will be busy working on his presentencing report, _ busy working on his presentencing report, his — busy working on his presentencing report, his arguments for a sentence, preparing an appeal, an appeal— sentence, preparing an appeal, an appeal that will have a public tent to it which — appeal that will have a public tent to it which will talk about the trivialisation and novelty of the charges — trivialisation and novelty of the charges. they talk about whether stormy _ charges. they talk about whether stormy daniels went over the line, for example. there will not be limitations on trump. he will have to be _ limitations on trump. he will have to be out— limitations on trump. he will have to be out advocating again the space he's got _ to be out advocating again the space he's got. it's one of the most loyal bases _ he's got. it's one of the most loyal bases in _ he's got. it's one of the most loyal bases in american recent history. he has now— bases in american recent history. he has now got— bases in american recent history. he has now got to figure out how he persuades— has now got to figure out how he persuades the middle to think that this was— persuades the middle to think that this was not a fair process, to think— this was not a fair process, to think that _ this was not a fair process, to think that this was a trivial case, and to—

think that this was a trivial case, and to think that he is a martyr rather— and to think that he is a martyr rather than _ and to think that he is a martyr rather than a morally challenged person — rather than a morally challenged person. when you think about some of the groups— person. when you think about some of the groups that he's had the greatest appeal to in his gathered large _ greatest appeal to in his gathered large numbers overtime, i greatest appeal to in his gathered large numbers over time, i think american — large numbers over time, i think american christians will have to think— american christians will have to think whether they see him as a martyr— think whether they see him as a martyr or— think whether they see him as a martyr or whether they see him as someone — martyr or whether they see him as someone they don't want to vote for, someone _ someone they don't want to vote for, someone who is associated with a pawn _ someone who is associated with a pawn star, — someone who is associated with a pawn star, who's been convicted over and over— pawn star, who's been convicted over and overagain —— a pawn star, who's been convicted over and over again —— a porn snark, who cheats— and over again —— a porn snark, who cheats the _ and over again —— a porn snark, who cheats the process, who treats the process _ cheats the process, who treats the process with disrespect —— star. those _ process with disrespect —— star. those are — process with disrespect —— star. those are big russians for american christians. _ those are big russians for american christians, for example. and those are big russians for american christians, for example.— those are big russians for american christians, for example. and we have seen some reaction _ christians, for example. and we have seen some reaction from _ christians, for example. and we have seen some reaction from michael- seen some reaction from michael cohen as well. he has said, "an important day for the rule of law." that's all we have so far from him, but one can imagine he likely feels vindicated by this moment and by this verdict. ijust vindicated by this moment and by this verdict. i just want to go vindicated by this moment and by this verdict. ijust want to go back to what i mentioned, some of the reaction in support of donald trump.

mikejohnson, speaker of the house, saying today is a shameful day in american history. that statement from the speaker of the house, mikejohnson. wejust mentioned that the credibility was one of the points the defence made. remind us again as you talk about the points where you think there is the points where you think there is the lines for the appeal, where you see the holes?