�* pointed to unfair — have they pointed to one thing, one aspect of this trial that was rigged? the judge was eminently fair, trump and his lawyers had a chance for questioning everyjuror, to strike them, to prolong defence, to put on one witness who turned out to be a disaster. republicans once stood for law and order. they were the party of law and order. they screamed during the clinton monica lewinsky scandal, no one is above the law. residents must be held accountable and they are now complicit in subverting the rule of law. trump was not convicted byjoe biden, by his political enemies, he was convicted by a jury of 12 ordinary americans. voltages can wash that way. professor, i wanted to _ can wash that way. professor, i wanted to ask you _ can wash that way. professor, i wanted to ask you this. - can wash that way. professor, i wanted to ask you this. i've - wanted to ask you this. i've asked you several times ahead

of presidential elections, when i met you in 2016 you accurately predicted that donald trump would win. 0h, accurately predicted that donald trump would win. oh, i think we've actually lost... are you still there professor? asked me again, you kept me waiting so long that other people are coming in. i people are coming in. i apologise but i have one more question for you. i met you in 2016 if you accurately predicted about this time last —— last year that year, if you look at your keys now, are you predicting it for mr trump or mr biden? i predicting it for mr trump or mr biden?— predicting it for mr trump or mr biden? i have not made a final prediction. _ mr biden? i have not made a final prediction. but - mr biden? i have not made a final prediction. but i - mr biden? i have not made a final prediction. but i have i final prediction. but i have said a lot would have to go wrong for biden to lose this election. a lot would have to go wrong for biden to lose this election. it could happen, but right now, biden, forget the polls, forget the pundits,

biden is looking good. and by the way, forget every bit of commentary about the political imprecations of this verdict. nobody knows. it's way too soon, take all of that and due to it with the great british philosopher david hughes said, you should do it to works of superstition, consigned them to the flames. superstition, consigned them to the flame— the flames. that's my final word. the flames. that's my final word- you _ the flames. that's my final word. you got _ the flames. that's my final word. you got it _ the flames. that's my final word. you got it right - the flames. that's my final word. you got it right in i the flames. that's my final. word. you got it right in 2016, we'll see what happens this year. thank you forjoining us very much, alan lichtman. as we were saying there, there's been a mixed reaction to this verdict and many supporters of donald trump who were dutifully every day turning up outside the courtroom in manhattan to show their support for him, they were disappointed. well, to get more room action we can speak to nikki beaver, political director from the national federation of republican women. she's in alexandria, virginia,

thanks for hanging on for a sneaky. what do you think of today in manhattan? it’s sneaky. what do you think of today in manhattan?- today in manhattan? it's a very sad and dark— today in manhattan? it's a very sad and dark day _ today in manhattan? it's a very sad and dark day in _ today in manhattan? it's a very sad and dark day in the - today in manhattan? it's a very sad and dark day in the united| sad and dark day in the united states— sad and dark day in the united states for america, our judicial— states for america, our judicial system has failed us once — judicial system has failed us once again and from the time that_ once again and from the time that donald trump came down the escalator— that donald trump came down the escalator in trump tower in 2015— escalator in trump tower in 2015 to— escalator in trump tower in 2015 to today when that jury gave — 2015 to today when that jury gave the verdict the democrats have _ gave the verdict the democrats have been after donald trump foriust— have been after donald trump forjust being an american... at nikki, _ forjust being an american... at nikki, i'm going to cut and because many of our viewers will want to ask exactly the same question, this is a fair and open and transparent legal system, it wasn't the judge that decided, it was a jury that decided, it was a jury that was picked fairly and transparently. i think they decided that donald trump was for guilty on 3a councils 3a counts of false records was never proven by the prosecution.- never proven by the prosecution. never proven by the rosecution. �* , ,

prosecution. and while yes it was a jury. — prosecution. and while yes it was a jury. the _ prosecution. and while yes it was a jury. the jury - was a jury, the jury instructions that were given were — instructions that were given were not_ instructions that were given were not what is normally done. he was— were not what is normally done. he was a — were not what is normally done. he was a very biased, there was no acquittal as an option we heard — no acquittal as an option we heard of— no acquittal as an option we heard of and the way he set it up heard of and the way he set it up was — heard of and the way he set it up was very, very skewed and let them _ up was very, very skewed and let them know that he was siding _ let them know that he was siding with the prosecution. his daughter has been accused of raising — his daughter has been accused of raising money for two democrats clients that she has to the — democrats clients that she has to the tune of $93 million for this case — to the tune of $93 million for this case-_ to the tune of $93 million for this case— this case. nikki, i'm 'ust auoin this case. nikki, i'm 'ust going to... fl this case. nikki, i'm 'ust going to... i'm �* this case. nikki, i'm 'ust going to... i'm just h this case. nikki, i'mjustl going to... i'm just going this case. nikki, i'mjust. going to... i'm just going to cut in there because again, some people watching this would say this is just sour grapes from someone who is angry with the verdict. hurling accusations that someone else when actually the reality is that this is what the jury has decided. that this is what the “my has decided. , ., ., ., decided. yes, and the team have said they are _ decided. yes, and the team have said they are going _ decided. yes, and the team have said they are going to _ said they are going to appeal and yes it may be a hard road ahead but— and yes it may be a hard road ahead but i think they have every— ahead but i think they have every right and they should do

that, — every right and they should do that, we — every right and they should do that, we listen to the details that— that, we listen to the details that have come out of this case, _ that have come out of this case, michael cohen admitted on the stand — case, michael cohen admitted on the stand that he stole, stole $60,000 from the trump team when _ $60,000 from the trump team when he _ $60,000 from the trump team when he was working for him. he was recording every conversation they had come out when _ conversation they had come out when they— conversation they had come out when they were on good terms. hes— when they were on good terms. he's a _ when they were on good terms. he's a snake, he's a liar. he did— he's a snake, he's a liar. he did 13— he's a snake, he's a liar. he did 13and— he's a snake, he's a liar. he did band a— he's a snake, he's a liar. he did 13 and a half months... indeed. _ did 13 and a half months... indeed, he is a convicted felon. no—one is denying that, but what we are talking about todayis but what we are talking about today is the fact that donald trump has been found guilty. yes, but i'm saying, their star witness — yes, but i'm saying, their star witness is _ yes, but i'm saying, their star witness is a _ yes, but i'm saying, their star witness is a liar, a convicted iiar— witness is a liar, a convicted liar and _ witness is a liar, a convicted liar and of— witness is a liar, a convicted liar and of course, he was jacking _ liar and of course, he was jacking up the campaign finance for the — jacking up the campaign finance for the truck, not for the trump _ for the truck, not for the trump team but he was convicted of that _ trump team but he was convicted of that he — trump team but he was convicted of that. he did 13 and a half months. _ of that. he did 13 and a half months, their star witness is a porn star— months, their star witness is a porn star and a convicted liar and — porn star and a convicted liar and the _ porn star and a convicted liar and the prosecution, the democrats in the state of new

york— democrats in the state of new york ali— democrats in the state of new york all the elected officials that — york all the elected officials that had anything to do with this were elected on the fact that— this were elected on the fact that they wanted to prosecute trump — that they wanted to prosecute trump by any means necessary. nikki, _ trump by any means necessary. nikki, iet — trump by any means necessary. nikki, let me ask you this then. i respect your point of view, there's plenty of donald trump supporters that i am still in touch with from my time in america who share what you're saying, nikki. but let me ask you this. do you honestly think he is the best candidate for the republican party, given everything that's just happened today and all the other cases that he's facing? wouldn't it be easier for you to get another candidate? know, there is no-one _ to get another candidate? know, there is no-one who _ to get another candidate? know, there is no-one who can - to get another candidate? know, there is no-one who can do - to get another candidate? know, there is no-one who can do us i there is no—one who can do us what _ there is no—one who can do us what we — there is no—one who can do us what we need the president to do after— what we need the president to do after the horrendous biden administration. they're running our country— administration. they're running our country into the ground, our— our country into the ground, our borders are wide open, our economy— our borders are wide open, our economy is— our borders are wide open, our economy is in the gutter. but america _ economy is in the gutter. but america is— economy is in the gutter. but america is on a downward spiral and the — america is on a downward spiral and the only man that can pull us out — and the only man that can pull us out of— and the only man that can pull us out of that is donaldj trumo _ us out of that is donald] trump. the world is on fire, there — trump. the world is on fire, there are _ trump. the world is on fire, there are wars everywhere, there — there are wars everywhere, there was world peace for the

most — there was world peace for the most part when donald trump was president — most part when donald trump was president. he had the abraham records, — president. he had the abraham records, all this year seeing in the — records, all this year seeing in the middle east with russia, none _ in the middle east with russia, none of— in the middle east with russia, none of this would be happening if president trump was happening. and i scene people on your— happening. and i scene people on your network agree with you and i_ on your network agree with you and i believe the former prime minister— and i believe the former prime minister of the uk actually said — minister of the uk actually said that the other day that... i'm said that the other day that... i'm going _ said that the other day that... i'm going to cut in their nikki, ithink i'm going to cut in their nikki, i think there's definitely different opinions on that and let's not forget what happened on the 6th of january either, but nikki beaver, thank you very much political director from the national federation of republican women. we respect your viewpoint and we welcome your viewpoint and we welcome you all the bbc any time. thank you all the bbc any time. thank you so much. let's go straight to another part of america to get reaction. let's speak to our north america correspondent nomia iqbal who's in the key state of georgia for us. that state where you are, of course, is at the centre of another case that donald trump is facing relating to the result there in 2020. we'll come to that and a second, but

what reaction are you getting where you are and people you've spoken to? just where you are and people you've spoken to?— spoken to? just a reminder, geora ia spoken to? just a reminder, georgia is — spoken to? just a reminder, georgia is a _ spoken to? just a reminder, georgia is a swing _ spoken to? just a reminder, georgia is a swing state - spoken to? just a reminder, georgia is a swing state and j georgia is a swing state and that means it can swing one way or the other. it swung towards presidentjoe biden in 2010 —— 2020, was the first time a democratic candidate has done so for a long time. and now it could swing towards donald trump it's easy to see that everyone is made their minds up and that's certainly true for most parts of america but in georgia surveys suggest up to 18% do not know which way to vote. when that verdict was coming in, we spent some time here in cook county, a very crucial part of georgia and it was exactly as i imagine, or you'd imagine, it was divided. 0ne you'd imagine, it was divided. one man i think he was watching the verdict comes through, his name was ron, he was saying, wow, whoa, i didn't think that

would happen. he said it was also quite satisfying but to see donald trump had been convicted of something, he felt he had got away with so much for so long. his partner mickey said she used to back donald trump, she voted for him and now she was completely against him. she did not think that this conviction would affect those who still back donald trump. alsojust those who still back donald trump. also just to add, the independent voters, i did speak to an army veteran called rachel rice here in the park and she was stunned by the conviction. she said she didn't expect that to happen. but i could see how unsure she was and how it would factor into her decision—making and she said to me that had he been convicted, i will quote. said to me that had he been convicted, iwill quote. "had he been convicted on a more serious case" and she felt the trial that's what yet to happen here in terms of election interference, that was a more

serious case in her eyes, had he been convicted of something more serious it might have changed her view. but as of right now she said to me she wasn't sure which way she was going to go but you know, she was still leaning towards donald trump and there were others who said they would never vote for him anyway. this is just cemented for them why they wouldn't vote for him. here, you probably heard me speaking to nikki beaverfrom alexandria virginia from national federation of republican women who was absolutely adamant that she come of that mr trump should still be a candidate for the republicans and of course it's not long now until the convention.— not long now until the convention. , convention. yet, he will be sentenced _ convention. yet, he will be sentenced for _ convention. yet, he will be sentenced for days - convention. yet, he will be sentenced for days before l convention. yet, he will be i sentenced for days before the republican convention where he is fully expected to be crowned as the party's candidate for the presidential election in november. there will be plenty of voters here who, for them,

this confirms what they already think which is they believe in donald trump's narrative that this is a political witch hunt and this to them confirms all that even if you say to them, look, this was a jury of american citizens and donald trump's defence team had also a say in thejury trump's defence team had also a say in the jury selection, so this is proof of what he says. but what will be interesting and remember it's only six months to go before the election, so much can change and evenjust a election, so much can change and even just a week. election, so much can change and evenjust a week. and and even just a week. and those people who are sitting on the fence, it will we haven't got immediate poles yet so we'll see which way it goes with time. �* , see which way it goes with time. �*, ., , ., see which way it goes with time. �*, ., ., ., ,, time. it's always good to talk to ou time. it's always good to talk to you and — time. it's always good to talk to you and of _ time. it's always good to talk to you and of course - time. it's always good to talk to you and of course a - time. it's always good to talk. to you and of course a moment of history for the united states and indeed the world. the first time a former president has been facing a criminal trial and no convicted in a terminal trial. the jury found him guilty on all 3a

counts of falsifying business records. it was a six week trial, the most key including his former right hand man michael cohen as well. as the tabloid publisher david packer. let's speak tojon lieber, managing director of the united states for the eurasia group. he's in washington. good to talk to you. you work in a city, you live in a city where politics is always buzzing. what's the mood in washington?— buzzing. what's the mood in washinuton? ., ~' ., ~' washington? you know, i think the big question _ washington? you know, i think the big question is _ washington? you know, i think the big question is what - washington? you know, i think the big question is what does l the big question is what does this mean for the campaign and that seems to be on most people's mind. of course there's also the question of what this means for sort of the longer—term picture for the rule of law and the united states. should donald trump win the presidency now, you're going to have an elected official who is in a position,

who has kind of beat the criminaljustice who has kind of beat the criminal justice system. who has kind of beat the criminaljustice system. so the there's a question here as to what that means for city president —— sitting president who could potentially flout decisions from the securement —— the supreme court. does the trust administration listen to that or did they blow right past it, so the applications of this conviction by a jury of potentially profound particularly if donald trump does manage to somehow win this election. , ., �* , does manage to somehow win this election. , ., �*, , a ., election. john, let's stick to the politics _ election. john, let's stick to the politics for _ election. john, let's stick to the politics for the - election. john, let's stick to | the politics for the moment. used to work, if i'm correct, with mitch mcconnell, senior republican. we heard from someone from the national federation of republican women who firmly stands behind donald trump as the republican candidate. as a republican insider in your past experience, do you think that he should be ditched as the nominee?—

he should be ditched as the nominee? ., , , nominee? donald trump is the undisputed _ nominee? donald trump is the undisputed leader _ nominee? donald trump is the undisputed leader of _ nominee? donald trump is the undisputed leader of the - undisputed leader of the republican party. he won the primary this time around... but he is no convicted, isn't it, that's the thing.— that's the thing. it's a fair question _ that's the thing. it's a fair question to _ that's the thing. it's a fair question to ask. - that's the thing. it's a fair question to ask. of - that's the thing. it's a fair. question to ask. of course. that's the thing. it's a fair - question to ask. of course. the question to ask. of course. the voters had decided, you know, i think there is no possibility they are going to rerun the primary. most of the ballots that were cast in the republican primary happened after this indictment had been handed down when republicans knew that he very well could be convicted of a crime, and yet it seemed to help his popularity in the republican primary. so if anything, these criminal accusations are helpful for trump with his base, even though they do obviously repel democratic voters and potentially turn off independence. the voters and potentially turn off independence.— independence. the question sometimes _ independence. the question sometimes is, _ independence. the question sometimes is, in _ independence. the question sometimes is, in a - independence. the question sometimes is, in a closed i independence. the question i sometimes is, in a closed race which the polls so far suggest it will be in those swing states, it often comes down to the so—called soccer mums, those swing voters who may not like what they've seen today. what's your analysis on that front? . .,

front? yeah, i think the reality is— front? yeah, i think the reality is there's - front? yeah, i think the reality is there's a - front? yeah, i think the reality is there's a lot i front? yeah, i think thej reality is there's a lot of people that —— things that many americans do not like about donald trump, and yet here he is running for his third straight presidential campaign. that is certainly the case in 2016 and trump has got a very unusual political coalition, he speaks to voters who typically don't go out to vote, may be disaffected with the current political system but see him as their champion and i think for those voters criminal conviction probably helps him. but of course that's not going to be enough and he does need some of these on the fence voters lot of whom were not that enamoured ofjoe biden and is the oldest president ever, and has presided over a period of inflation that is left a lot of inflation that is left a lot of americans feeling down about the direction of the country and that's one of the reasons that this will be a competitive race and trump may potentially win it. ~ , , . .,, win it. myself included, those who have _ win it. myself included, those who have spent _ win it. myself included, those who have spent many - win it. myself included, those who have spent many years i win it. myself included, thosej who have spent many years in washington, dc who could have never predicted the scriptjust far. do you think we might see a scenario where you have a

president who is behind bars? i president who is behind bars? 1 think that's probably unlikely, i mean it's really a question for the new york courts, you know, trump has got multiple avenues of appeal here that probably will end up delaying sentencing and if he is sentenced it may delay a time that he is behind bars, this is one of the think the secret service has probably thought about, how they accommodate if he goes behind bars or get house arrest. the strange thing about the us is that even if trump is behind bars there is nothing that stops him from either running for president or... if he's elected. this is an unusual situation to say the least. . , , an unusual situation to say the least. ., , , , ., least. really is unusual, john “oininu least. really is unusual, john joining us _ least. really is unusual, john joining us from _ least. really is unusual, john joining us from washington, | least. really is unusual, john i joining us from washington, dc. thank you forjoining us and for your insider knowledge. manhattan district attorney — alvin bragg — said this after the verdict was announced.

but 12 everyday jurors vowed but 12 everydayjurors vowed to make a decision based on the evidence and the law, and the evidence and the law, and the evidence and the law, and the evidence and the law alone. their deliberations led them to a unanimous conclusion beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant, donaldj trump, is guilty of 3a counts of falsifying business records in the first degree, to conceal a scheme to corrupt the 2016 election. now, while this defendant may be unlike any other in american history, we arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this verdict, in the same manner as every other case that comes through the court room doors. by through the court room doors. by following the facts and the law and doing so without fear or favour.

law and doing so without fear orfavour. i want law and doing so without fear or favour. i want to conclude ijy or favour. i want to conclude by expressing deep gratitude to the nypd and the officers of the nypd and the officers of the office of court administration for securing the courthouse, all of our safety, making sure the courthouse and all of the other matters that are important in their own right continue seamlessly. they will continue to be and always have been incredible partners. thank you. have been incredible partners. thank you-— thank you. that was alvin bran, thank you. that was alvin bragg. the _ thank you. that was alvin bragg, the manhattan - thank you. that was alvin - bragg, the manhattan district attorney that brought for that prosecution case and of course donald trump found guilty on all 3a counts relating to falsifying business records. 0ur north america correspondent nada tawfik has been covering the trial for us and she's been speaking to the bbc digital reporter kayla epstein who was inside the courtroom when the verdicts

were read out. an unreal moment here in manhattan when that verdict was read. you can see around me just the amount of police presence, the worlds, the united states media here for as far as the eye can see and in the park, already you can hear chance of lock him up. those who despise donald trump remain in the park. there was a shout of celebration when the news got to them that he had been found guilty. but what about what happened inside of that courtroom? well, joining me as my colleague kayla epstein who was there. what a historic moment to witness. first of all, when thejury moment to witness. first of all, when the jury is started to read count by count that he was guilty, what was his demeanour? 50 was guilty, what was his demeanour?— was guilty, what was his demeanour? ., , ., demeanour? so it was almost like the air — demeanour? so it was almost like the air turned _ demeanour? so it was almost like the air turned to - demeanour? so it was almost like the air turned to stone i like the air turned to stone when they started reading out those guilty verdicts one by

one. and as each count and each guilty verdict rolled over him, donald trump was completely motionless at the defence table. i was sitting directly behind him and while i couldn't see his face his body language with some of the stylist i've ever seen it. he didn't move, he didn't gesture, he just sat there as they said guilty, guilty, guilty 3a times. there as they said guilty, guilty, guilty 34 times. these “urors guilty, guilty 34 times. these jurors sat _ guilty, guilty 34 times. these jurors sat through _ guilty, guilty 34 times. these jurors sat through five - guilty, guilty 34 times. these jurors sat through five weeks | jurors sat through five weeks of testimony, prosecutors left absolutely nothing to chance. ultimately it took them 11 hours to come to this decision, a decision that they knew would have a historic impact, not just on holding donald trump accountable but on an presidential election that is under way. presidential election that is underway. looking presidential election that is under way. looking at the jury, did you get the sense that they were overwhelmed by that moment?— were overwhelmed by that moment? the 'ury actually looked quite i moment? the jury actually looked quite serious i moment? the jury actually looked quite serious and i moment? the jury actually i looked quite serious and they did look very sombre, but they didn't look overwhelmed to me. throughout the entire trial they've looked like people who knew the weight of the job that they had to do, but also were

focused on their task. and when the foreman was called upon to breed out each guilty verdict, he did so in a clear, loud voice and never appeared to my ears to waver. and when the judge asked them to all go one ijy judge asked them to all go one by one and say what they believed, they all said guilty, again someone not as loudly but all in a clear voice.— all in a clear voice. i think it has struck _ all in a clear voice. i think it has struck all— all in a clear voice. i think it has struck all of - all in a clear voice. i think it has struck all of us i all in a clear voice. i think it has struck all of us howj it has struck all of us how donald trump publicly has slammed thisjudge as slammed this judge as conflicted but the slammed thisjudge as conflicted but thejudge has such a mild matter in the court. when the verdict was read, what advice did he give tojurors when they read, what advice did he give to jurors when they had completed their civic duty? justice mershon has been a real figure of authority and respect to the jury. figure of authority and respect to thejury. he figure of authority and respect to the jury. he speaks to them very kindly, he asked sure this doesn't disrupt their lives any more than it has to end when they were done delivering their verdict, he thanked them. he said as they deliberated he watched how much care they put into it. and it wasjust very

much a moment for the judge as well, he seemed proud of the jury well, he seemed proud of the jury for taking on this enormous burden and doing their work as a law said they had to. also in the court was the manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. 0f manhattan district attorney alvin bragg. of course he was the first prosecutor to bring charges against a former president. many had actually criticised him and wondered if this was a case worth bringing, but obviously it's had an outsized impact given this is the only case will be heard before the election and has resulted in a guilty verdict. let's turn that back to donald trump because as he left, he turned to his family in that moment, didn't he? the only family member _ moment, didn't he? the only family member that - moment, didn't he? the only family member that was i moment, didn't he? the only family member that was in i moment, didn't he? the only. family member that was in court with him today was eric trump, his second eldest son, and as trump got up and left the defence table he passed right by eric who was sitting right in the front row and he seemed to grab his upper arm or his chest and almost like a moment of fatherly gesture and while i don't know what was going through his mind or who it was

comforting her, he did reach out to the closest family had at the moment before he walked out of the courtroom without saying a word. out of the courtroom without saying a word-— out of the courtroom without saying a word. you know, it's so interesting _ saying a word. you know, it's so interesting to _ saying a word. you know, it's so interesting to cover i so interesting to cover this trial both from outside here in lower manhattan as people were observing the news in such a different environment there in the courtroom and of course it all comes together when donald trump speaks to the press, reacts to this, it was interesting he was his normal defiant self but he made a comment that ultimately the real verdict is going to be november five real verdict is going to be novemberfive in the real verdict is going to be november five in the election. essentially. he promised that he is going to keep fighting. sitting through when donald trump has called this case politically motivated, out by democrats, you sat there, you heard this evidence, was there any surprise that the jury did find it donald trump guilty based on the evidence? just how overwhelming and compelling was it? i overwhelming and compelling was it? ., , �* , overwhelming and compelling was it? i y it? i wasn't in the “my room and no-one will i it? i wasn't in the jury room and no-one will know- it? i wasn't in the jury room i and no-one will know unless the and no—one will know unless the jurors decide to speak what went through their minds as

they weighed the evidence. but we do know that the prosecution told a very compelling, very cohesive narrative from start to finish from opening statements to closing arguments. that laid out a detailed narrative of what they alleged trump had done. they brought reams of evidence, text messages, e—mails, testimony from 20 people most of them key players in this case, and they really went over every single piece of evidence they could and presented them to the jury. and while we may never know what that was the decisive piece of evidence they clearly dodged one of the biggest question marks in this case which was michael cohen's credibility, so much of this case hinged on him. he has committed perjury in front of congress in the past, trumps lawyers relentlessly hammered him and cross examination, and opening statements, closing arguments, calling him at one time calling him the greatest liar of all time. but you saw the prosecution was able to back up his testimony with enough evidence that clearly

the jury was able to see past cohen's flaws and perhaps find their way to a guilty verdict. we've seen donald trump's evolution here in new york from real estate mogul, reality tv star, president ultimately, and now convicted felon. for new yorkers who are here who have called donald trump a con man, none other than robert de niro, out here for the biden campaign just a few days ago, there were celebrations that broke out in the park here. many coming out with statements including the biden harris campaign, saying that donald trump mistakenly believed he would neverface consequences for breaking the law. american people face a simple reality — the only way to keep donald trump at of the oval office at the ballot box. they showed no—one was above the law. the white house saying though, we respect the rule of law and have no additional

comment. we certainly saw the campaigning that went on outside of here. republicans have a very different view, speakerjohnson, he was here during the campaign and he has said this is a disgrace for america, a shameful day in american history, purely political exercise, not a legal one. kayla, when you reflect on the campaigns ahead, how do you think donald trump will use this verdict to try to get out of the political danger that he clearly faces with independent voters? ~ ., ., ., , voters? we are going to be he heafina voters? we are going to be he hearing about _ voters? we are going to be he hearing about this _ voters? we are going to be he hearing about this verdict i hearing about this verdict every day until election day in november. trump is going to be using it to rally support from his base, he has done a very good job of keeping his supporters close to them by making the argument that there really going after me because they are going after you. they're trying to silence me because they're trying to silence you. meanwhile we will seejoe biden attacking donald trump's fitness for office based off of this. and this is going to run to the entire

election. we talked about sentencing here injuly, that's right before the republican national convention where he will become the official nominee. this verdict will have ripple effects. can we get into the minds of individual voters right now, we don't know, but polling has shown that at least some voters might turn away from trump if he actually is convicted in one of his criminal trials as he has been here. ~ �* , . here. we'll 'ust a reminder before we— here. we'lljust a reminder before we close _ here. we'lljust a reminder before we close this i here. we'lljust a reminder before we close this hour l here. we'lljust a reminder| before we close this hour of what's being a monumental day in us political history. donald trump was the first ever former president to face a criminal trial and a jury has found him guilty of all 34 counts of falsifying business records, it is a day in history, you can see there the shots from earlier as mr trump and his legal team and his entourage

exited the courtroom. he is now in trump tower and we heard from him in the aftermath. he described the verdict as a disgrace. he attacked the judge which he'd been doing at on a regular basis when he spoke outside the court. now, the sentencing will take place on the 11th ofjuly, mr trump could face prison. many experts say that a fine or some sort of probation is more likely and of course it's not too far afterwards that the republican national convention takes place which is when the republican nominee which is mr trump is effectively given the final rubber stamp to be the republican candidate. it's going to be a very interesting, unpredictable election year, of course the us election is in november. now, mrtrump is course the us election is in november. now, mr trump is not banned from running as a candidate, so he's likely to continue on. he could even, if

he is jailed, continue on from behind bars. mrtrump also saying he was a very innocent man, he branded the trial rig to end a disgrace. we heard from president biden's campaign, they issued a statement in the aftermath, saying no—one is above the law. the statement added, the threat trump poses to our democracy has never been greater. we've been speaking to people across the political spectrum, unsurprisingly there's been a very mixed reaction, many of his supporters stand firmly by him. his detractors say this is another example of why he is not fit for office. i am regina bidenjavan, not fit for office. iam regina bidenjavan, i not fit for office. i am regina bidenjavan, i am not fit for office. i am regina bidenjavan, iam now bidenjavan, i am now heading over to my colleague carl now as men who continues coverage live from washington, dc. live from washington, this is bbc news. a manhattanjury finds donald trump guilty on all counts in his new york

hush money case. mr trump becomes the first us president to be convicted of a crime. this was a rigged, disgraceful trial. the real verdict is going to be vember the fifth by the people. —— november. after the six—week trial, manhattan's district attorney, alvin bragg, defends the jury's verdict. the the jury's verdict. only voice that matters is the the only voice that matters is the voice of the jury, the jury has spoken. hello, i'm carl nasman. welcome back to our continuing coverage of a historic day. a manhattanjury has found former us president donald trump guilty on all 34 charges in his new york hush money trial. it is the first time a us president, former or serving, has been convicted of a crime. mr trump was convicted of falsifying business records