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future for everyone. the worst thing we could do now is do what rishi sunak is doing and put our head in the sand. austerity, brexit and the cost of living — l all the reasons why the tories i should be removed from office. what is it that the i labour party offers? joining me to go through the latest from the uk general election, john manley, anna mikhailova and taj ali. first, the latest headlines — us presidentjoe biden has presented a new initiative aimed at ending the war in gaza, which he said would ensure durable peace and the release of all israeli hostages. he said israeli officials had agreed to the proposals, which envisage a peace plan in three phases. donald trump has confirmed he'll appeal against his criminal conviction a day after a jury
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in new york found him guilty of falsifying business records. in rambling remarks at trump tower, the former president angrily attacked his opponents and continued to claim without evidence that his trial had been rigged. germany hasjoined the us in giving ukraine permission to use weapons supplied to the country to strike some military targets inside russia. the relaxation of restrictions are to defend the kharkiv region, which has come under increasing pressure from russian forces from just over the border in recent weeks. hackers are attempting to sell what they say is confidential information on millions of customers and staff of santander. the spanish bank confirmed that data had been stolen and apologised. the hackers, shinyhunters, claim to have bank account details for 30 million satander clients in spain, uruguay and chile, and information about all its staff. this hour, we're taking a closer
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look at the latest from the campaign trail in the uk election, and as we know in any election campaign, it's the unplanned moments which can hog the limelight away from the agenda the parties want to push. this week for labour, attention has focused on the fate of diane abbott and whether she'd be able to stand under the party's ticket injuly. fter days of uncertainty, sir keir starmer says diane abbott is "free to go forward as a labour candidate". earlier this week, she claimed the party had banned herfrom doing so. ms abbott was suspended from labour last year after suggesting jewish, irish and traveller people experience prejudice, but not racism "all their lives". ms abbott has yet to say if she'll stand. joe pike reports. applause. forfour days, the questions have kept coming, but it may have been the deputy leader's support for diane abbott, as well as the scottish leader's sympathy towards her,
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that pushed keir starmer to act. angela rayner down here on the front row says that diane abbott should be allowed to stand if she wants to. anas sarwar, standing beside you, says he agrees with angela rayner. do you agree with them or are you sticking to the line that no decision has been taken? well, no decision has been taken, so that's the factual position. no decision to bar diane. this afternoon, that changed. she's free to go forward as a labour candidate. the whip is back with her. it's been restored. senior labour insiders concede this week's events have been a distraction. chanting: we stand with diane! including wednesday's rally on diane abbott's home turf of hackney. theyjust want me excluded from parliament. tonight, the veteran left—winger has told me whilst keir starmer�*s intervention is "positive", she doesn't want to speak on camera
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until after her candidacy is rubber—stamped next week. and we still don't know if she'll definitely stand. it just reconfirms what we know about keir starmer, and that's. that he constantly changes his mind. and it's clear that angela rayner's in charge of his party and not him. in hackney north, this row has left some voters unhappy. as the first black british female mp in history, the amount that she's done for the community and for those that don't have a voice is something that's resonated with so many of us around here. you know, i think it's pretty awful, really, how they've treated her. i don't particularly think she's been treated unfairly. - she has said things in the past- which are not on the political...not politically correct. the tussle over who will be labour's candidate in this seat is all about the age old internal battles between right and left. keir starmer�*s iron grip on the party machinery is perhaps not quite as strong as we thought, and angela rayner's arguably
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decisive role in this row could give us a taste of the dynamics at the top of government to come if labour were to win this election. if diane abbott does stand and win, she will become the longest—serving labour mp and the mother of the house. joe pike, bbc news, hackney. i'm joined now byjohn manley, politics correspondent for the irish news in killough — anna mikhailova, deputy political editor for the mail on sunday in london — and taj ali, co—editor of tribune magazine, also in london. i'm going to start with you on this. we have now finally heard from certain keir starmer. he says diane abbott is free to stand as a labour candidate. there are many who say he should have come out and been clear about this all sooner. yes. should have come out and been clear about this all sooner.—
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about this all sooner. yes, i think this is been _ about this all sooner. yes, i think this is been a _ about this all sooner. yes, i think this is been a constant _ about this all sooner. yes, i think this is been a constant problem i about this all sooner. yes, i think. this is been a constant problem with the labour party communications strategy. for many months, they kept saying it was an independent process in the investigation had not concluded. the recently we heard the investigation was concluded in december. other gets clear that diane abbott is on the left of the party and the right of the party that now controls the party want to ensure the people who are aligned with the leadership's views are selected. where i think it's with the leadership's views are selected. where i think its cause significant damage for the party is not actually on the left of the party but actually in the community. we sought many leading black figures right in the guardian recently, expressing deep concern about britain's first black female mp being treated in this way. and of course diane abbott has been in the news for several think samples that we saw a few months ago how a tory done or said she should be shot, which was a great source of controversy. we also know that diane abbott received half of all abusive tweets to any female mp in the run—up to the 20 17th general election. so i think there is a
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great concern around the way she is being treated for the last few years actually. labour has historically had a problem with anti—black which homophobia in the party and the full report was commissioned to investigate this is that we saw 1100 submission, and that's the context in which this has to be understood. let's bring anna in on this. this has distracted people from perhaps some of the policy proposals that the labour party have put forward this week. do you think of the end of this now this is going to hurt or maybe not make a difference when it comes to the party's fortunes? weill. comes to the party's fortunes? well, it's interesting _ comes to the party's fortunes? well, it's interesting because _ comes to the party's fortunes? well, it's interesting because the - it's interesting because the narrative that was building, and it certainly— narrative that was building, and it certainly was a distraction from the campaign _ certainly was a distraction from the campaign and what everyone wanted to talk about _ campaign and what everyone wanted to talk about. the narrative that he was urging — talk about. the narrative that he was urging the left of which there were _ was urging the left of which there were several examples, but of course diane _ were several examples, but of course diane abbott was the most
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high—profile as the right hand of jeremy— high—profile as the right hand of jeremy corbyn. that i think they were _ jeremy corbyn. that i think they were happy with. they are happy with him being _ were happy with. they are happy with him being seen as ruthless. they are happy— him being seen as ruthless. they are happy with— him being seen as ruthless. they are happy with him being seen as purging the left—wing elements of his party, even if_ the left—wing elements of his party, even if it_ the left—wing elements of his party, even if it upsets his candidates and even _ even if it upsets his candidates and even if— even if it upsets his candidates and even if it_ even if it upsets his candidates and even if it upsets his candidates and even if it upsets part of his electorate. but the development today— electorate. but the development today where, as the report pointed out, he _ today where, as the report pointed out, he is — today where, as the report pointed out, he is now changed when he was saying _ out, he is now changed when he was saying effectively and seems to have been pushed by angela ran into a position that is different to where he was _ position that is different to where he was before, that is certainly nothing — he was before, that is certainly nothing they want.— he was before, that is certainly nothing they want. and, john let me brina ou nothing they want. and, john let me bring you on — nothing they want. and, john let me bring you on this _ nothing they want. and, john let me bring you on this as _ nothing they want. and, john let me bring you on this as well— nothing they want. and, john let me bring you on this as well because - bring you on this as well because certain keir starmer has denied that he purging left—wing candidates, but we have also seen quite a lotta discussion over another labour candidate, orshe discussion over another labour candidate, or she is not labour any
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more, if this is all to be read into. she said she was banned from standing for labour after complaints that she liked the media posts which allegedly downplayed anti—semitism. yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is _ yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is not _ yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is not purging _ yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is not purging people, _ yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is not purging people, but if- yes, well, sir keir starmer may say he is not purging people, but if it . he is not purging people, but if it will like _ he is not purging people, but if it will like a — he is not purging people, but if it will like a duck— he is not purging people, but if it will like a duck and _ he is not purging people, but if it will like a duck and quacks - he is not purging people, but if it will like a duck and quacks like i will like a duck and quacks like a duck, _ will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's— will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a — will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. and _ will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. and i- will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. and i think- will like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. and i think it. will like a duck and quacks like a| duck, it's a duck. and i think it is very— duck, it's a duck. and i think it is very disappointing. _ duck, it's a duck. and i think it is very disappointing. you - duck, it's a duck. and i think it is very disappointing. you know, i duck, it's a duck. and i think it isi very disappointing. you know, i'm old enough — very disappointing. you know, i'm old enough to— very disappointing. you know, i'm old enough to remember- very disappointing. you know, i'm old enough to remember the - very disappointing. you know, i'mi old enough to remember the purge very disappointing. you know, i'm - old enough to remember the purge of the militant— old enough to remember the purge of the militant element— old enough to remember the purge of the militant element within _ old enough to remember the purge of the militant element within the - the militant element within the labour— the militant element within the labour party. _ the militant element within the labour party, and _ the militant element within the labour party, and i— the militant element within the labour party, and i think- the militant element within the labour party, and i think evenl the militant element within the - labour party, and i think even after that, _ labour party, and i think even after that, there — labour party, and i think even after that, there was _ labour party, and i think even after that, there was still— labour party, and i think even after that, there was still a _ labour party, and i think even after that, there was still a broad - labour party, and i think even after that, there was still a broad church| that, there was still a broad church of labour— that, there was still a broad church of labour people _ that, there was still a broad church of labour people like _ that, there was still a broad church of labour people like dennis- of labour people like dennis skinner. _ of labour people like dennis skinner, tony— of labour people like dennis skinner, tony band - of labour people like dennis- skinner, tony band represented the left. skinner, tony band represented the left i_ skinner, tony band represented the left ithink— skinner, tony band represented the left. i think this— skinner, tony band represented the left. i think this purge _ skinner, tony band represented the left. i think this purge of— skinner, tony band represented the left. i think this purge of the - left. i think this purge of the left, — left. i think this purge of the left, which _ left. i think this purge of the left, which i _ left. i think this purge of the left, which i believe - left. i think this purge of the left, which i believe it- left. i think this purge of the left, which i believe it is, - left. i think this purge of the left, which i believe it is, isi left. i think this purge of the i left, which i believe it is, is not good _ left, which i believe it is, is not good for— left, which i believe it is, is not good for british _ left, which i believe it is, is not good for british politics. - left, which i believe it is, is not good for british politics. find i left, which i believe it is, is not good for british politics. and on this, the party _ good for british politics. and on
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this, the party had _ good for british politics. and on this, the party had a _ good for british politics. and on this, the party had a lot - good for british politics. and on this, the party had a lot of - good for british politics. and on this, the party had a lot of talk| this, the party had a lot of talk and controversy around allegations of anti—semitism, and one would say if you were speaking on the other side of this debate that this is not a purge of left—wing candidates, this is just ensuring that people like fazia shaheen who like the posts are not as with a party who won't tolerate that.— posts are not as with a party who won't tolerate that. there is more to it than that. _ won't tolerate that. there is more to it than that. if— won't tolerate that. there is more to it than that. if you _ won't tolerate that. there is more to it than that. if you look - won't tolerate that. there is more to it than that. if you look at one | to it than that. if you look at one of the posts, one was her looking of tweet with a video of the famous comedian jon tweet with a video of the famous comedianjon stewart tweet with a video of the famous comedian jon stewart talking about the difficulties discovering israel and palestine. another thing that was broken when she was meant to by the nec was discussing her own experience of islamophobia. and you think about watching that news not deliver on the verge of tears and crucially there is a double standard here. if you look at how many white male mps will level the ship have been treated, it's very different.
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look at neil coin, somebody who had racially abused a journalist. he had a complaint of sexual harassment held against him. the parliamentary procedure had not even concluded and he was given the wet back what was someone like diana is left waiting for over a year. i think that's the biggest concern amongst people, that we seem to be having this double standard. so, yes, ithink fashion is definitely a play and leadership are going to look for people that align with their values and that perhaps are going to so this is about integrity, but i think when you get a clear double standard in the way to splinter procedures are being carried out, i don't think that's right was up and crucially the fight against anti—semitism in the fight against anti—semitism in the fight against islamophobia and anti—black racism is the same struggle post up and i think it sometimes can be quite dangerous when these are often pit against each other. i think we need to have some conversation around anti—semitism and islamophobia and all forms of racism but too often we seem to have these different forms of racism in competition with each
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other... �* ., ., , .,, of racism in competition with each other... �* ., ., , other... i'm going to stop you there so i can other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let — other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let and _ other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let and i _ other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let and i have _ other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let and i have the say - other... i'm going to stop you there so i can let and i have the say of. so i can let and i have the say of that. what do you make of that? i mean, i think what the dynamic abbott — mean, i think what the dynamic abbott example, the question here is this not— abbott example, the question here is this not so— abbott example, the question here is this not so much being seen as a question— this not so much being seen as a question of— this not so much being seen as a question of the party approach to imitate _ question of the party approach to imitate him in touch —— anti—semitism, but there they have deemed _ anti—semitism, but there they have deemed that it was enough for her to -et deemed that it was enough for her to get the _ deemed that it was enough for her to get the whip back. so she apologised and went— get the whip back. so she apologised and went to anti—semitism training or awareness courses as is and reported _ or awareness courses as is and reported. and therefore they said that she — reported. and therefore they said that she can have the whip back. so, you know. _ that she can have the whip back. so, you know, there were many people who will absolutely criticise that and say that — will absolutely criticise that and say that that is not going to be taking — say that that is not going to be taking anti—semitism seriously but at the _ taking anti—semitism seriously but at the same time, the debate here is about— at the same time, the debate here is about allowing her to stand. so if it was _ about allowing her to stand. so if it was about the issue, than they would _ it was about the issue, than they would not — it was about the issue, than they would not have given her the wet back this — would not have given her the wet back. this is very much a political
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move _ back. this is very much a political move by— back. this is very much a political move by sir— back. this is very much a political move by sir keir starmer to shape the party— move by sir keir starmer to shape the party that he is almost certainly about to bring in the government with a bubbly a majority. he is trying _ government with a bubbly a majority. he is trying to shape it in his own image _ he is trying to shape it in his own image because sir keir starmer, don't _ image because sir keir starmer, don't forget, has not been in politics— don't forget, has not been in politics that long. he is not being an mp _ politics that long. he is not being an mp for— politics that long. he is not being an mp for that long and he is not seen _ an mp for that long and he is not seen a _ an mp for that long and he is not seen a particularly flammable in people — seen a particularly flammable in people so you cannot easily say who his allies _ people so you cannot easily say who his allies are and who his friends in the _ his allies are and who his friends in the party— his allies are and who his friends in the party are. and i think part of this— in the party are. and i think part of this has— in the party are. and i think part of this has been a concerted effort to shape _ of this has been a concerted effort to shape the candidacy and it has always— to shape the candidacy and it has always been the plan to push out certain— always been the plan to push out certain candidates that they did not like. certain candidates that they did not like and _ certain candidates that they did not like. and put in their allies, certain candidates that they did not like. and put in theirallies, and i think— like. and put in theirallies, and i think that — like. and put in theirallies, and i think that is _ like. and put in theirallies, and i think that is partlyjust him shaping _ think that is partlyjust him shaping what he wants the party to look like _ shaping what he wants the party to look like and his group within it. and of— look like and his group within it. and of course sir keir starmer denies that there is any sort of purge. back with un a moment. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.
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labour says its green energy plans will ensure the uk's transition away from oil and gas doesn't repeat the mistakes from the phase—out of coal. it wants a new public company, branded great british energy, to be headquartered in scotland, but the snp says the proposals would put scottish jobs at risk. here's bbc business editor simonjack. over the last 30 years, renewable energy has been a big success story. last year, 40% of our electricity was generated by renewables. labour are targeting 100% by 2030. now, to help it hit that target, labour wants to create something called great british energy. so what would that be? well, a government—owned energy company, headquartered in scotland, funded with £8.3 billion. how is that paid for? well, labour say by further raising taxes on oil and gas companies, something the lib dems also back. and those companies will not be
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granted any new licences to develop fossilfuels in uk waters, although existing grants will be honoured. labour claim it will help the uk decarbonise electricity production by 2030, make the uk less reliant on energy imports and price shocks, while driving down household bills by £300 by the end of the next parliament. now, many experts feel the 2030 target may be unrealistic, and billions will need to be spent and recouped through bills which could offset these lower prices. now, putting the hq in scotland is telling as it's the centre of both the offshore wind and the oil and gas industry. and the snp say labour's veto on new oil and gas would risk 100,000 jobs in scotland, while the conservatives put the number at 200,000 across the whole uk and say it's foolish to import more fossil fuels than we have to. labour dismisses these numbers, saying that existing licences will mean oil and gas production will continue for many years, while thousands of newjobs would be
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created in renewable industries. now, labour originally planned to spend £28 billion per year on green projects, and the greens and the scottish greens say whittling that down to £8.3 billion for the parliament lacks ambition and urgency. labour says its investment plans have had to have been scaled back thanks to the worsening public finances they will inherit if they are elected. and remember, 75% of our total energy needs still come from fossil fuels. all the main parties want a greener future, but how and how fast to get there is one of the clearest dividing lines between them. joining me now is laurie macfarlane, an edinburgh—based economist and the co—director of future economy scotland. you carry out research on how to get to just transition, which you carry out research on how to get tojust transition, which is you carry out research on how to get to just transition, which is a challenge notjust in the uk but around the world, a just transition
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to move away from fossil fuels of course i mean. what do you make of this plan for gb energy?— course i mean. what do you make of this plan for gb energy? thanks very much. so this plan for gb energy? thanks very much- so the — this plan for gb energy? thanks very much. so the need _ this plan for gb energy? thanks very much. so the need to _ this plan for gb energy? thanks very much. so the need to be _ this plan for gb energy? thanks very much. so the need to be proactive i much. so the need to be proactive and ambitious to transition away from fossil fuels is really not in any doubt. scotland plus michael and gas sector, of course it is a major part of our economy, supporting huge numbers ofjobs particularly in the northeast not only there. it has both scotland, the uk and indeed the world transitions away from fossil fuels towards net zero, we will see jobs in that sector decline. and indeed jobs have been declining quite considerably in that sector over the past decade already. as of the question is do we proactively planned out to deliver that managed, controlled transition away from fossil fuels to low carbon energy or do we sit back and see how much more a chaotic transition later on that of course could result in that widespread disruption, unemployment, regional decline, must be sought when the mines closed down in the uk
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a few decades ago. nap that does not mean turning off the taps tomorrow, next year or even in the coming years. it does mean putting in plans today to protect livelihoods, and a key part of that is investing to maximise our enormous renewable energy potential. that's what really i think gb energy is supposed to be about. it's about creating a publicly owned company to accelerate that investment in renewables, and notjust that investment in renewables, and not just accelerate the investment but also ensuring that the economic benefits associated with our renewables potential is actually captured and retained here. that's what we really failed to do so far, so it's got one of that we've doubled our renewable energy capacity over the past decade, that really has not translated into job creation and anything like the way that was promised and that's partly because the jobs in renewables are in the manufacturing phase across the uk, we don't really manufacture anything any more. and so the jobs in the activity has gone to companies based overseas, and of
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course the money made from that going there as well. in many of these companies are actually state owned companies of other countries, and so did mark's company is lou the world leader here and sweden has one as well. stand world leader here and sweden has one as well. �* ., , x' world leader here and sweden has one as well. . ., , a , ., ., as well. and to pick up on what you are sa in: as well. and to pick up on what you are saying they _ as well. and to pick up on what you are saying they are, _ as well. and to pick up on what you are saying they are, you _ as well. and to pick up on what you are saying they are, you talk- as well. and to pick up on what you are saying they are, you talk about| are saying they are, you talk about the concerns of herjobs and that is something the snp has said today in reaction to labour's proposals. yeah, absolutely. so the creation of a public energy company by itself... jobs. i think with the snp are referring to as the windfall tax at labour and said they will introduce to fund the creation of gb energy. and i think the claim that it will destroy that many jobs, and i think the claim that it will destroy that manyjobs, i think it's based on shaky foundations and norway, for example, oil and gas profits are taxed at 70%, the same level labour are proposing that has not led to the destruction of the
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industry. and so i think there is a bit of scaremongering here from the industry who are really producing these figures. but i think we also need to put the tax picture in broader context because all of these companies do pay taxes, what often does not acknowledge is that the government actually subsidises fossil fuel government actually subsidises fossilfuel companies government actually subsidises fossil fuel companies reasonably substantially through a wide range of tax relief, which in recent years has amounted to about £1200 on your per average. we need to look at this in a bit of context here, and i do think that again we should be focusing not so much on the old energy technologies of the 20th century but how we actually maximise and become a world leader in the new green technologies of the 21st century. green technologies of the 21st centu . . ~ green technologies of the 21st centu . ., ,, , ., green technologies of the 21st centu . . ~' , ., , green technologies of the 21st centu . ., ,, i. , . green technologies of the 21st centu . ., ,, , . century. 0k, thank you very much. do ou sta century. 0k, thank you very much. do you stay with — century. 0k, thank you very much. do you stay with us _ century. 0k, thank you very much. do you stay with us we _ century. 0k, thank you very much. do you stay with us we bring _ century. 0k, thank you very much. do you stay with us we bring in _ you stay with us we bring in the panel. i'm going to start withjohn because it is a challenge for all political parties on one hand, they said they want to move towards a
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carbon free world as other countries are all striving to do as well, but in the cost—of—living crisis we have heard from all the parties essentially say perhaps not the green party that they are going to have to scale back and maybe change their timelines because it'sjust not possible to do it as quickly as they would like to.— they would like to. well, that clearly is _ they would like to. well, that clearly is a — they would like to. well, that clearly is a dilemma - they would like to. well, that clearly is a dilemma facing i they would like to. well, that l clearly is a dilemma facing any modern — clearly is a dilemma facing any modern government. and i'm a bit ambivalent— modern government. and i'm a bit ambivalent about this announcement. i'm ambivalent about this announcement. im always _ ambivalent about this announcement. i'm always sceptical of announcements made in election campaigns because they often get the impression they are worked out on the back— impression they are worked out on the back of— impression they are worked out on the back of an envelope. but at the same _ the back of an envelope. but at the same time — the back of an envelope. but at the same time chemically leaked a lot of politicking _ same time chemically leaked a lot of politicking going on. this is designed to appeal to the electorate in scotland where lara is in the ascendancy. after many years in the back woods~ — ascendancy. after many years in the back woods. and so i think maybe this scottish national party response is a little churlish. we have _ response is a little churlish. we have to — response is a little churlish. we have to beat and we have to realise that there will be sacrifices there
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will have — that there will be sacrifices there will have to be made as we move towards — will have to be made as we move towards decarbonisation.- towards decarbonisation. anna, i want to get _ towards decarbonisation. anna, i want to get your _ towards decarbonisation. anna, i want to get your thoughts - towards decarbonisation. anna, i want to get your thoughts on - towards decarbonisation. anna, i l want to get your thoughts on this. do you think that green policies and particularly with your readership are seen as a vote winner or a vote loser? ~ . ., , ., loser? well come up with our readership. — loser? well come up with our readership. l— loser? well come up with our readership, i think _ loser? well come up with our readership, i think anything l loser? well come up with our i readership, i think anything that risks— readership, i think anything that risks raising _ readership, i think anything that risks raising bills— readership, i think anything that risks raising bills at _ readership, i think anything that risks raising bills at the - readership, i think anything thatj risks raising bills at the moment and i_ risks raising bills at the moment and i think— risks raising bills at the moment and i think a _ risks raising bills at the moment and i think a lot _ risks raising bills at the moment and i think a lot of— risks raising bills at the moment and i think a lot of this- risks raising bills at the moment and i think a lot of this raises. and i think a lot of this raises the real concern _ and i think a lot of this raises the real concern and _ and i think a lot of this raises the real concern and the _ and i think a lot of this raises the real concern and the concern - and i think a lot of this raises the| real concern and the concern with the labour— real concern and the concern with the labour policy _ real concern and the concern with the labour policy on _ real concern and the concern with the labour policy on net - real concern and the concern with the labour policy on net zero - real concern and the concern with the labour policy on net zero in l real concern and the concern with i the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 _ the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 target — the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 target that _ the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 target that is _ the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 target that is still in - the labour policy on net zero in the 2030 target that is still in place - 2030 target that is still in place there. — 2030 target that is still in place there. the — 2030 target that is still in place there, the real— 2030 target that is still in place there, the real concern - 2030 target that is still in place there, the real concern is - 2030 target that is still in place there, the real concern is that. there, the real concern is that there — there, the real concern is that there will— there, the real concern is that there will be _ there, the real concern is that there will be policies - there, the real concern is that there will be policies to - there, the real concern is that there will be policies to get i there, the real concern is that there will be policies to get to that quick— there will be policies to get to that quick turnaround - there will be policies to get to that quick turnaround that - there will be policies to get toj that quick turnaround that will there will be policies to get to - that quick turnaround that will end ”p that quick turnaround that will end up with— that quick turnaround that will end up with consumers _ that quick turnaround that will end up with consumers having - that quick turnaround that will end up with consumers having to - that quick turnaround that will end up with consumers having to pay. up with consumers having to pay more _ up with consumers having to pay more because _ up with consumers having to pay more. because this— up with consumers having to pay more. because this great - up with consumers having to pay more. because this great british energy— more. because this great british energy announcement, - more. because this great british energy announcement, and - more. because this great british energy announcement, and i- more. because this great british energy announcement, and idol more. because this great british - energy announcement, and i do think it is thought — energy announcement, and i do think it is thought through _ energy announcement, and i do think it is thought through by— energy announcement, and i do think it is thought through by labour, - energy announcement, and i do think it is thought through by labour, of. it is thought through by labour, of the is _ it is thought through by labour, of the is actually _ it is thought through by labour, of the is actually one _ it is thought through by labour, of the is actually one of— it is thought through by labour, of the is actually one of sir— it is thought through by labour, of the is actually one of sir keir- the is actually one of sir keir starmer's _ the is actually one of sir keir starmer's current— the is actually one of sir keir starmer's current main- the is actually one of sir keir- starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise _ starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a — starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a lot _ starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a lot for _
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starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a lot for having _ starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a lot for having a - starmer's current main flagships. he is criticise a lot for having a very - is criticise a lot for having a very vanilla _ is criticise a lot for having a very vanilla manifesto, _ is criticise a lot for having a very vanilla manifesto, but— is criticise a lot for having a very vanilla manifesto, but i- is criticise a lot for having a very vanilla manifesto, but i think. vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the _ vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the one — vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the one thing _ vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the one thing he _ vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the one thing he will— vanilla manifesto, but i think this is the one thing he will point it i is the one thing he will point it was a — is the one thing he will point it was a actually _ is the one thing he will point it was a actually i _ is the one thing he will point it was a actually i am _ is the one thing he will point it was a actually i am being - is the one thing he will point it was a actually i am being bold | is the one thing he will point it l was a actually i am being bold in and try to — was a actually i am being bold in and try to do _ was a actually i am being bold in and try to do something - was a actually i am being bold in and try to do something with - was a actually i am being bold inj and try to do something with the question— and try to do something with the question is— and try to do something with the question is they _ and try to do something with the question is they claim _ and try to do something with the question is they claim it - and try to do something with the question is they claim it will - and try to do something with the i question is they claim it will lower energy— question is they claim it will lower energy bills — question is they claim it will lower energy bills by— question is they claim it will lower energy bills by about _ question is they claim it will lower energy bills by about a _ question is they claim it will lower energy bills by about a few - question is they claim it will lower. energy bills by about a few hundred pounds _ energy bills by about a few hundred pounds now— energy bills by about a few hundred pounds. now that _ energy bills by about a few hundred pounds. now that calculation - pounds. now that calculation is actually— pounds. now that calculation is actually sceptical— pounds. now that calculation is actually sceptical because - pounds. now that calculation is| actually sceptical because while pounds. now that calculation is i actually sceptical because while i think— actually sceptical because while i think everyone _ actually sceptical because while i think everyone will— actually sceptical because while i think everyone will agree - actually sceptical because while i think everyone will agree that . actually sceptical because while ii think everyone will agree that the becoming — think everyone will agree that the becoming less— think everyone will agree that the becoming less dependent- think everyone will agree that the becoming less dependent on- think everyone will agree that the . becoming less dependent on outside sources— becoming less dependent on outside sources of— becoming less dependent on outside sources of energy _ becoming less dependent on outside sources of energy and _ becoming less dependent on outside sources of energy and particularly . sources of energy and particularly on russia — sources of energy and particularly on russia in— sources of energy and particularly on russia in the _ sources of energy and particularly on russia in the context - sources of energy and particularly on russia in the context of- sources of energy and particularly on russia in the context of the . sources of energy and particularlyl on russia in the context of the war is extremely — on russia in the context of the war is extremely important, _ on russia in the context of the war is extremely important, and - on russia in the context of the war is extremely important, and that. is extremely important, and that there _ is extremely important, and that there is— is extremely important, and that there is absolutely— is extremely important, and that there is absolutely a _ is extremely important, and that there is absolutely a need - is extremely important, and that there is absolutely a need to - is extremely important, and that. there is absolutely a need to invest in clean _ there is absolutely a need to invest in clean energy. _ there is absolutely a need to invest in clean energy, in— there is absolutely a need to invest in clean energy, in the _ there is absolutely a need to invest in clean energy, in the nuclear- in clean energy, in the nuclear technologies— in clean energy, in the nuclear technologies of— in clean energy, in the nuclear technologies of which - in clean energy, in the nuclear technologies of which there . in clean energy, in the nucleari technologies of which there are several— technologies of which there are several options, _ technologies of which there are several options, it— technologies of which there are several options, it is— technologies of which there are several options, it is still- technologies of which there are several options, it is still not, i several options, it is still not, you _ several options, it is still not, you know. _ several options, it is still not, you know. this— several options, it is still not, you know, this idea _ several options, it is still not, you know, this idea that- several options, it is still not, you know, this idea that a - several options, it is still not, . you know, this idea that a lower bill, _ you know, this idea that a lower bill, that— you know, this idea that a lower bill, that is— you know, this idea that a lower bill, that is fanciful. _ you know, this idea that a lower bill, that is fanciful. yes, - you know, this idea that a lower bill, that is fanciful. yes, it - you know, this idea that a lower bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is i bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is important _ bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is important to _ bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is important to invest _ bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is important to invest it - bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is important to invest it is- bill, that is fanciful. yes, it is - important to invest it is important to look— important to invest it is important to look for— important to invest it is important to look for new _ important to invest it is important to look for new technologies - important to invest it is important to look for new technologies of. important to invest it is importantl to look for new technologies of the future, _ to look for new technologies of the future, but — to look for new technologies of the future, but i — to look for new technologies of the future, but i think— to look for new technologies of the future, but i think in— to look for new technologies of the future, but i think in the _ to look for new technologies of the future, but i think in the short - future, but i think in the short term — future, but i think in the short term but— future, but i think in the short term but when _ future, but i think in the short term but when i— future, but i think in the short term but when i spoke - future, but i think in the short term but when i spoke into . future, but i think in the shorti term but when i spoke into the government— term but when i spoke into the government during _ term but when i spoke into the government during the - term but when i spoke into the - government during the cost—of—living crisis. _ government during the cost—of—living crisis. they— government during the cost—of—living crisis. they were _ government during the cost—of—living crisis, they were saying _ government during the cost—of—living crisis, they were saying the _ crisis, they were saying the opposite _ crisis, they were saying the opposite the _
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crisis, they were saying the opposite. the way - crisis, they were saying the opposite. the way to - crisis, they were saying the opposite. the way to boost| crisis, they were saying the - opposite. the way to boost jobs crisis, they were saying the - opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually _ opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to — opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to invest _ opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to invest in _ opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to invest in the _ opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to invest in the old - opposite. the way to boostjobs is actually to invest in the old fossill actually to invest in the old fossil fuel energy— actually to invest in the old fossil fuel energy sources, _ actually to invest in the old fossil fuel energy sources, so - actually to invest in the old fossil fuel energy sources, so the - fuel energy sources, so the different— fuel energy sources, so the different parties— fuel energy sources, so the different parties are - fuel energy sources, so the different parties are just. fuel energy sources, so the - different parties are just saying different— different parties are just saying different things. _ different parties are just saying different things. i— different parties are just saying different things. i find - different parties are just saying different things. i find it - different parties are just saying different things. i find it very. different things. i find it very interesting _ different things. i find it very interesting today— different things. i find it very interesting today in - different things. i find it very interesting today in sir- different things. i find it very interesting today in sir keir. interesting today in sir keir starmer's _ interesting today in sir keir starmer's lodge _ interesting today in sir keir starmer's lodge in- interesting today in sir keir| starmer's lodge in scotland interesting today in sir keir- starmer's lodge in scotland how there _ starmer's lodge in scotland how there was— starmer's lodge in scotland how there was an _ starmer's lodge in scotland how there was an absolutely - starmer's lodge in scotland how there was an absolutely big - starmer's lodge in scotland howl there was an absolutely big focus starmer's lodge in scotland how- there was an absolutely big focus on scotland _ there was an absolutely big focus on scotland and — there was an absolutely big focus on scotland and the _ there was an absolutely big focus on scotland and the fact _ there was an absolutely big focus on scotland and the fact that _ there was an absolutely big focus on scotland and the fact that scotland i scotland and the fact that scotland will be _ scotland and the fact that scotland will be the — scotland and the fact that scotland will be the headquarters _ scotland and the fact that scotland will be the headquarters for- scotland and the fact that scotland will be the headquarters for this . will be the headquarters for this bil will be the headquarters for this big new— will be the headquarters for this big new project. _ will be the headquarters for this big new project, and _ will be the headquarters for this big new project, and many- will be the headquarters for this| big new project, and many times repeated — big new project, and many times repeated the _ big new project, and many times repeated the words _ big new project, and many times repeated the words jobs - big new project, and many times repeated the words jobs but - big new project, and many times repeated the words jobs but he i repeated the wordsjobs but he gave so little _ repeated the wordsjobs but he gave so little detail— repeated the wordsjobs but he gave so little detail and _ repeated the wordsjobs but he gave so little detail and so _ repeated the wordsjobs but he gave so little detail and so little in - so little detail and so little in the speech _ so little detail and so little in the speech was _ so little detail and so little in the speech was about - so little detail and so little in the speech was about greeni so little detail and so little in - the speech was about green energy, i found _ the speech was about green energy, i found the _ the speech was about green energy, i found the focus — the speech was about green energy, i found the focus he _ the speech was about green energy, i found the focus he has _ the speech was about green energy, i found the focus he has to _ the speech was about green energy, i found the focus he has to win back . found the focus he has to win back scotland. — found the focus he has to win back scotland. it's— found the focus he has to win back scotland, it's that. _ found the focus he has to win back scotland, it's that.— scotland, it's that. going to bring in ta' on scotland, it's that. going to bring in taj on this _ scotland, it's that. going to bring in taj on this as _ scotland, it's that. going to bring in taj on this as well— scotland, it's that. going to bring in taj on this as well because - in taj on this as well because everyone has to bout this challenge in terms of phasing out one form of energy and losing jobs there before you wrap up another form and create jobs in that.
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you wrap up another form and create jobs in that-— jobs in that. yeah, and i think the climate catastrophe _ jobs in that. yeah, and i think the climate catastrophe is _ jobs in that. yeah, and i think the climate catastrophe is a _ climate catastrophe is a very serious issue and there is going to be in economic cost if we don't tackle it. i think we do need a very sensible and grown—up conversation about what the applications might be for workers injobs and unions have expressed concerns about what those jobs will look like if gas and oil jobs, i believe a quarter of a millionjobs are linked jobs, i believe a quarter of a million jobs are linked to gas and oil in this country, or given up. what is going to replace them? they want more detailfrom what is going to replace them? they want more detail from the labour party. this year marks the 40th anniversary of the minor strike, and if you look today at former coal mining communities, many of them are still struggling with inequalities and deprivation, and that's what many people fear. i think labour�*s initial pledge was very good. i think they should have stuck to it and made the case for it. and, look, every tax—and—spend decision a government makes is a conscious political choice. they could've looked at ways to generate revenue and look at the long—term benefits.
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this is a collective investment in our future. this is a collective investment in ourfuture. i think it is this is a collective investment in our future. i think it is possible to have a green transition and protect jobs. to have a green transition and protectjobs. there is economic potential there. so i think wejust need to have a very honest conversation about the cost—benefit analysis that is done. {lilla conversation about the cost-benefit analysis that is done.— conversation about the cost-benefit analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much- — analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much- plenty — analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much. plenty more _ analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much. plenty more on - analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much. plenty more on all- analysis that is done. 0k, thank you very much. plenty more on all of. analysis that is done. 0k, thank you | very much. plenty more on all of the party's plans when it comes to climate change on the bbc news website and we also have a poll tracker if you want to keep up—to—date with what is going on. thanks to laurie for bringing us up—to—date on the latest on that green energy plan and i'll be back with the panel for a short while. disable this here on bbc news. hello there. tomorrow marks the start of meteorological summer, and there's going to be a lot of dry weather this weekend and some warm sunshine as well. and earlier today, it was very pleasant in cumbria,
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but there was a chilly wind blowing. some of the strongest winds have been here in cromer in norfolk, gusting ll0 mph. the wind off the north sea making it feel quite chilly. and around the edge of this area of high pressure, this is where we've got the strongest of the winds. that's been bringing a lot of cloud to some eastern parts of england. a little rain earlier as well, but that's moving away. we're still going to hang on to some cloud for eastern areas of the uk overnight. one or two spots of rain heading down across eastern parts of scotland. but further west, we're going to have clearer skies and lighter winds as well. it could turn a little chilly, 6—7 degrees first thing in the morning. heading into tomorrow, and it will warm up in the sunshine and there'll be more sunshine across east anglia and the south—east of england, should be dry here as well. a bit more cloud, though, coming down across scotland into northern england and the midlands could bring one 01’ two showers. otherwise, it should be dry. sunny spells for northern ireland, lots of sunshine in scotland. temperatures in the central belt reaching 20 degrees on saturday afternoon. and across the south—east, it will be a warmer day with more
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sunshine and the winds not as strong either. the high pressure that's bringing a lot of dry weather is tending to get pushed away a little bit on sunday. and around the top of that high, we're seeing more cloud coming in from the atlantic. that'll bring cloudier skies into scotland and northern ireland, maybe a few spots of rain in the north—west. some of that cloud will push into northern england. but further south, we've got some sunny spells. the winds continuing to fall lighter across south—eastern areas. so it's warming up here further. highs could reach 22 degrees. and still quite warm across north—east england, eastern scotland with some sunshine. not quite so warm in the west of scotland, where we've got all this cloud. and that cloud will push its way southwards overnight and into monday together with that weather front, which is very weak. so there's little or no rain on that. it's more cloud that's moving southwards, followed by sunshine in northern england and scotland and perhaps northern ireland. temperatures reaching 17—18 degrees. further south, even with some cloud, we've still got highs of 20 celsius. but the area of high pressure is getting pushed away, and that's allowing north—westerly winds to come in.
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those will be stronger on tuesday. polar maritime air could bring some showers. wintry over the scottish mountains, still warm and dry in southern england.

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