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to build 100 new doctors' surgeries and boost the number of available appointments. mexicans are at the polls in an election which is almost certain to result in the country's first female president. it has been the most violent election campaign in the country's history. south africa's ruling anc says it will talk to all parties about forming a coalition government after losing its majority for the first time in 30 years and a chinese spacecraft has landed on the far side of the moon in a landmark mission to retrieve rock and soil samples. i will have a full bulletin at five. time now to get a look at the election campaigning. now on bbc news, newscast.
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it is laura in the studio. and it is henry in the studio.— henry in the studio. today's big sto is henry in the studio. today's big story is keir— henry in the studio. today's big story is keir starmer's - henry in the studio. today's big story is keir starmer's promise | henry in the studio. today's big i story is keir starmer's promise on migration. he has said cryptic things for a long time since he has been leader, yes, migration is too high, 700,000 people coming to the country is too big a number. but today for the first time in this campaign he has been clear about a commitment to get the numbers down, which, henry, is a different thing to say i think it is too high. why? because in five weeks per match time should he become prime minister, people like you and me also you made a commitment in the last general election, how have you delivered against it? i also think it is significant because of the politics. the politics are obvious, but we
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shall spell it out anyway. this is keir starmer yet again, as he has basically every day since a few months into his leadership of the labour party, although it was different at the start, he is trying to basically bash voters over the head with a message that he is moving the labour party way to the right of where it was in the 2019 and 2017 general elections when their approach to immigration would have been quite different to this. that is the message. we have been quite different to this. that is the message.— have been quite different to this. that is the message. we can say this is something — that is the message. we can say this is something they _ that is the message. we can say this is something they really _ that is the message. we can say this is something they really wanted - that is the message. we can say this is something they really wanted to i is something they really wanted to highlight in particular because he has pulled out one of those old cues thatis has pulled out one of those old cues that is like a big politician grabbing a megaphone and saying i really, really mean this, because he said read my lips. isn’t really, really mean this, because he said read my lips.— said read my lips. isn't read my li -s are said read my lips. isn't read my lips are famous _ said read my lips. isn't read my lips are famous because - said read my lips. isn't read my| lips are famous because george said read my lips. isn't read my - lips are famous because george bush senior said read my lips, lips are famous because george bush seniorsaid read my lips, no lips are famous because george bush senior said read my lips, no new taxes and any fees taxes and he lost the election to bill clinton as a result. it the election to bill clinton as a result. , ., ., ~ result. it is, and often like political— result. it is, and often like political phrases _ result. it is, and often like political phrases they - result. it is, and often like political phrases they are i result. it is, and often like. political phrases they are so result. it is, and often like - political phrases they are so taken out of context and used in all sorts
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of different ways that they do opposite to what they started off. 0r opposite to what they started off. or they are things that are used wrongly like a couple of crotchety old uncles sat in the planes, talking about words like decimate yesterday, we should move on from that. what is interesting is the big headline is there but very soon if you are watching or listening or one of the rival parties, you say by how much? and by how? when we spoke to yvette cooper this morning she just would not go anywhere near putting a number on it. we would not go anywhere near putting a number on it— number on it. we are not setting a taruet number on it. we are not setting a target and — number on it. we are not setting a target and the _ number on it. we are not setting a target and the reason _ number on it. we are not setting a target and the reason for - number on it. we are not setting a target and the reason for that - number on it. we are not setting a target and the reason for that is i target and the reason for that is because — target and the reason for that is because partly because to be honest every _ because partly because to be honest every time _ because partly because to be honest every time the conservatives have done _ every time the conservatives have done this, — every time the conservatives have done this, frankly, they have ended up done this, frankly, they have ended up being _ done this, frankly, they have ended up being totally over the place, ripping — up being totally over the place, ripping ii— up being totally over the place, ripping it up and discrediting the whole _ ripping it up and discrediting the whole thing. i am asking you. i understand, but to finish the point, but also _ understand, but to finish the point, but also from one year to another there _ but also from one year to another there are — but also from one year to another
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there are variations. for example, there are variations. for example, the pandemic meant that net migration figures fell, but the homes — migration figures fell, but the homes for ukraine visa rightly meant that the _ homes for ukraine visa rightly meant that the figures increase because of the war— that the figures increase because of the war in— that the figures increase because of the war in ukraine. but that the figures increase because of the war in ukraine.— that the figures increase because of the war in ukraine. but people would like more clarity _ the war in ukraine. but people would like more clarity than _ the war in ukraine. but people would like more clarity than just _ the war in ukraine. but people would like more clarity than just saying - like more clarity than just saying we will not set a number. maybe you might want to set a goal of a proportion to bring it down. the most recent figures say net migration was 685,000 people. when you say you want to bring it down, what do you mean? do you mean by one? by1000, by100,000, 200,000? we want significant changes in place — we want significant changes in lace. ~ . we want significant changes in lace, . ., ., , ., we want significant changes in lace, ., ., , ., ., we want significant changes in lace. ., ., , ., ., we have place. what does that mean? we have seen the numbers _ place. what does that mean? we have seen the numbers travel. _ place. what does that mean? we have seen the numbers travel. someone . seen the numbers travel. someone sa s, i seen the numbers travel. someone says. i am — seen the numbers travel. someone says. i am not— seen the numbers travel. someone says, i am not entirely _ seen the numbers travel. someone says, i am not entirely convinced, i says, i am not entirely convinced, but i was very impressed with yvette cooper not giving a number. the conservatives have hamstrung themselves for decades by having targets and numbers and it is nice to hear an approach moving away from
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this and on work, the schools gap and migration. sorry, you are pushing for a number, and migration. sorry, you are pushing fora number, laura. it is interesting because labour�*s plans are to try to get to a position where we don't need much more migration but how do they plan to do that? ., ., , , ., that? yvette cooper is right that the conservatives _ that? yvette cooper is right that the conservatives have - that? yvette cooper is right that the conservatives have tangled l the conservatives have tangled themselves in knots four years over themselves in knots four years over the tens of thousands start that david cameron initially set and theresa may, who was the home secretary for a long time, attempting to deliver that. clearly they are deciding strategically, tactically, not to have a number held over them. however, tactically, not to have a number held overthem. however, i tactically, not to have a number held over them. however, ithink people in the conservative party who want immigration to come down problem for conservative governments was not the act of having a target, it was the fact they did not hit their target. it was the fact they did not hit theirtarget. labour it was the fact they did not hit their target. labour will clearly have a looser target. net migration last year was 685,000. people are trending things down anyway. in that
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respect people seem to have set themselves a target they will hit. they say they will do that is my training more brits to fill the skills gaps. that is intersect with later conversations you had with victory atkins who had social care and staffing there. i was very struck that shami chakrabarti, a member ofjeremy corbyn's shadow cabinet, on the left of the party, was quite supportive of that approach. she said, yes, if this reduction in immigration is fuelled by upscaling, to use the oval word, she used it, by the way, then that is a good thing. it is she used it, by the way, then that is a good thing-— is a good thing. it is very different _ is a good thing. it is very different for— is a good thing. it is very different for us _ is a good thing. it is very different for us older - is a good thing. it is very - different for us older people, it is very different to the kind of language that labour used a while ago if you go back to the 2010 election. labourwas ago if you go back to the 2010 election. labour was sort of a bit panicked into suddenly saying more about immigration because for ages, we don't talk about that because of movement under the eu. then there is
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this notion of british jobs for british workers and a lot of people on the left were saying you should not be using language like that. there was a classic keir starmer line on this and it is, i will control our borders but i will make sure british businesses help to hire brits first. i thought that phrase is a classic keir starmer i am trying here to look to the left and the right until voters that i am on their side, the right until voters that i am on theirside, not the right until voters that i am on their side, not the left of my party. but he didn't say british jobs for british workers, although he did say crackdown on bad bosses. but he is trying in that phase —— phrase to keep both sides of the argument going. it is phrase to keep both sides of the argument going-— phrase to keep both sides of the araument anoin. , ,., ., argument going. it is something that labour leaders _ argument going. it is something that labour leaders wrestle _ argument going. it is something that labour leaders wrestle with, - argument going. it is something that labour leaders wrestle with, not - labour leaders wrestle with, not just gordon brown. 0ne labour leaders wrestle with, not just gordon brown. one of the things on the tombstone that ed miliband would have put in the garden of downing street was controlled on immigration. they even put it on a mug famously and a lot of people then said it is no good ed miliband
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saying controls on immigration if people don't believe that he actually wants to control it in the way the voters labour at that point were losing wanted to. one thing thatis were losing wanted to. one thing that is interesting, where did keir starmer say read my lips? fin that is interesting, where did keir starmer say read my lips?- that is interesting, where did keir starmer say read my lips? on the sun on sunda . starmer say read my lips? on the sun on sunday- and _ starmer say read my lips? on the sun on sunday- and i— starmer say read my lips? on the sun on sunday. and i know _ starmer say read my lips? on the sun on sunday. and i know newspapers i starmer say read my lips? on the sun| on sunday. and i know newspapers are not as powerful— on sunday. and i know newspapers are not as powerful or _ on sunday. and i know newspapers are not as powerful or influential _ on sunday. and i know newspapers are not as powerful or influential as - not as powerful or influential as they used to be, their power and influence has been overstated anyway... influence has been overstated anyway- - -_ influence has been overstated an a , , , influence has been overstated an a _ , , m anyway... often by themselves. by themselves— anyway... often by themselves. by themselves and _ anyway... often by themselves. by themselves and their _ anyway... often by themselves. by themselves and their most - anyway... often by themselves. by themselves and their most ardent. themselves and their most ardent critics. , ., ., | themselves and their most ardent critics._ i don't - critics. they do matter. i don't know if they — critics. they do matter. i don't know if they do, _ critics. they do matter. i don't know if they do, but _ critics. they do matter. i don't know if they do, but for - critics. they do matter. i don't know if they do, but for those | critics. they do matter. i don't - know if they do, but for those who think they do, if you are watching what is happening with the sun newspaper which endorsed blair, having switched from the conservatives, they like to back a winner and they are giving keir starmer a fair winner and they are giving keir starmera fairwind, and i winner and they are giving keir starmer a fair wind, and i think watch out for that in a few weeks. evenif watch out for that in a few weeks. even if you don't think the papers and what they do matter to you, there are big clues on what the
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parties and where the parties choose to take their electoral words and labour giving interviews and stories to the sun and to the telegraph, as they have done repeatedly in the last couple of years, is something very interesting. 0ne last couple of years, is something very interesting. one of you on the other side of this argument, nick says, as voters we need something tangible to judge says, as voters we need something tangible tojudge a says, as voters we need something tangible to judge a party in terms of where we cast our vote. some of you listening did want there to be more of a clearer target, but louisa was saying i like this different approach where they are talking aboutjoining up the whole thing, problems in the british workforce. what was interesting to me is yvette cooper did not like sending asylum seekers, people who come here without permission, to other countries. labourwe without permission, to other countries. labour we know have been very clear now that they don't like the rwanda scheme. but she did leave the rwanda scheme. but she did leave the door open to potentially in the future sending some asylum seekers to other countries for processing and i thought that was very interesting that she was happy to put that on the record.— interesting that she was happy to put that on the record. when you are askin:
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put that on the record. when you are asking yvette — put that on the record. when you are asking yvette cooper _ put that on the record. when you are asking yvette cooper about - put that on the record. when you are asking yvette cooper about the - put that on the record. when you are j asking yvette cooper about the other side of migration, we were talking before about legal migration, it made me realise it is barely into the general election campaign. when i was trying to work out on the morning of a couple of thursdays ago whether rishi sunak was about to call a general election, one of the rationales that so many conservatives came out with was if you have a general election before the rwanda flight takes off, as they hoped it would, although now they are saying it wouldn't, beforejuly the 4th, that becomes a huge feature of the election campaign. who do you trust more to stop the boats? but i think it has barely featured at all partly because the conservatives have not talked about it and ijust wonder whether that will change. 0r whether both political parties have decided it doesn't necessarily move the target voters they are fighting over that much. i suddenly realised when you are talking to yvette cooper that this has barely
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featured. that is really interesting. it featured. that is really interesting.— interesting. it is really interesting _ interesting. it is really interesting and - interesting. it is really interesting and i - interesting. it is really l interesting and i wonder interesting. it is really - interesting and i wonder if newscasters have noticed if they have been reading things really carefully that there have been some challenges accepted by the courts to the legality around the rwanda scheme in the last few weeks. there has been reporting of that this morning and various cases that will be heard. labour does not like to say we are not doing this radical idea, they don't like to shout about that particularly, and the tories don't want to shout about it perhaps because of that. we will see what happens about it in the campaign. a spokesperson for the tory party said about keir starmer's plan, this is the man who called all immigration races and voted against border control 139 times, referring to rwanda. this is an issue in scotland with different demographics in terms of population and needing people for the economy. alison thewliss from the economy. alison thewliss from the snp said the programme is westminster and not migrants. the
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lib dems, as daisy cooper said this morning, the tories have failed on immigration. now, diane abbott. there is still a hangover of what has been a very nasty row. we talked about it a lot yesterday but there were interesting comments about it this morning. were interesting comments about it this morning-— this morning. most interesting comments _ this morning. most interesting comments were _ this morning. most interesting comments were from - this morning. most interesting comments were from shami i comments were from shami chakrabarti. aha, comments were from shami chakrabarti.— comments were from shami - chakrabarti._ and she chakrabarti. a close friend. and she seemed to imply — chakrabarti. a close friend. and she seemed to imply that _ chakrabarti. a close friend. and she seemed to imply that there - chakrabarti. a close friend. and she seemed to imply that there is - chakrabarti. a close friend. and she seemed to imply that there is a - seemed to imply that there is a genuine chance diane abbott now decides not to stand. i have spent a lot of the past week trying to work out what is going on here. clearly what blew the entire delicate dance of up was the briefing to the times from whoever it was in the labour party and shami chakrabarti said she had assurances it was not a licensed briefing. brute had assurances it was not a licensed briefin-. . , ., had assurances it was not a licensed briefinr. ~ , ., , had assurances it was not a licensed briefina.~ , ., , . , had assurances it was not a licensed briefin, . , ., , . , ., briefing. we should play the crip of how she described _ briefing. we should play the crip of how she described what _ briefing. we should play the crip of how she described what happened | how she described what happened because she was furious and gave us a very colourful description of what the blue seats have been up to. do
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you think she will stand again as a mark i hope that she will now after the sometimes sordid week of an authorised, anonymous briefings by overgrown schoolboys in suits with their feet on the table and maybe watching too much west wing but not taking on a more progressive values, and by the way i hope they remember it is country first, not a fashion first, i hope she will take some time to consider what she wants to do. . , time to consider what she wants to do, ., , ., , time to consider what she wants to do. ., , ., , ., ., do. that is literally what i have suggested _ do. that is literally what i have suggested to — do. that is literally what i have suggested to her— do. that is literally what i have suggested to her as _ do. that is literally what i have suggested to her as her - do. that is literally what i have suggested to her as her friend | do. that is literally what i have . suggested to her as her friend and do. that is literally what i have - suggested to her as her friend and i hope that— suggested to her as her friend and i hope that is what she is going to do. �* , ., , ., ., , do. but people who were not behind the briefings — do. but people who were not behind the briefings but _ do. but people who were not behind the briefings but were _ do. but people who were not behind the briefings but were saying - do. but people who were not behind the briefings but were saying they i the briefings but were saying they didn't think diane abbott was going to be a labour candidate, was saying she has told us that there is no shortage of people at the top of the labour party who believe that diane abbott had been given assurances, not under duress, because she has been an mp for a0 years and all of that, in fact she will be the
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longest serving labour mp if she wins in this general election, they believed they had got assurances from her that she didn't want to stand anyway. clearly, if that is the case, you can see why being told that she was being barred would inflame the situation and lead to as it did, to herb on the town hall steps saying i will stand. now she has been told to stand and in a slightly counterintuitive way it does appear she has been given consideration not to.— does appear she has been given consideration not to. yvette cooper denied diane _ consideration not to. yvette cooper denied diane abbott _ consideration not to. yvette cooper denied diane abbott had _ consideration not to. yvette cooper denied diane abbott had been - consideration not to. yvette cooper i denied diane abbott had been offered a peerage and she gave that politician was my answer, i don't know anything about that. it was a denial that she was not aware of it, but it was not ruling out that that conversation had happened. imagine mps might be offered inducements to do things by party leaders. i am not saying this happened in this case but that kind of thing does definitely go on. i but that kind of thing does definitely go on.— definitely go on. i had an interesting _ definitely go on. i had an interesting conversation | definitely go on. i had an - interesting conversation yesterday. i tried to take the day off. in an
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election campaign? _ i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are - i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are you - i tried to take the day off. in an election campaign? are you having a laugh? election campaign? are you having a lau~h? ., , , ., . laugh? there i was sitting watching saturday up — laugh? there i was sitting watching saturday up a _ laugh? there i was sitting watching saturday up a kitchen _ laugh? there i was sitting watching saturday up a kitchen and - laugh? there i was sitting watching saturday up a kitchen and my - laugh? there i was sitting watching | saturday up a kitchen and my phone rang, a tory mp i have known for many years. as you know, when you have contacts, mps, whatever, who you speak to over several years, you go to learn their general disposition whether they are optimistic or pessimistic and who they like or don't like. this is a conservative mp i had spoken to maybe eight days before he was adamant that rishi sunak would narrow the polls, that in their constituency people were not persuaded by keir starmer and so on. i will paraphrase it, i said, henry, we are doomed. they said that they had had a realisation on the doorstep that day on saturday that, they said for two years every conservative mp has sat there thinking the polls will narrow at some point and then we are in business. he said i had this
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realisation, the polls are not going to narrow. they said if after this week's debate on tuesday between rishi sunak and keir starmer at the polls do not begin to narrow, they said, mark my words, conservative mps are going to panic. that said, mark my words, conservative mps are going to panic.— mps are going to panic. that is fascinating _ mps are going to panic. that is fascinating because _ mps are going to panic. that is fascinating because somebody| mps are going to panic. that is i fascinating because somebody in mps are going to panic. that is - fascinating because somebody in tory hq said that to me. they said if nothing else shifts by the end of next week, quite soon, and i paraphrase, people will start losing their marbles. because what we have seenin their marbles. because what we have seen in the last week the tories have chucked out new policies, more than anyone else, and they should appeal to their base voters. national service got people talking, some of the guarantees on pensions targeted absolutely, exocet missile like at their core vote, and yet the polls have not budged. in like at their core vote, and yet the polls have not budged.— polls have not budged. in fact, if the have polls have not budged. in fact, if they have budged _ polls have not budged. in fact, if they have budged in _ polls have not budged. in fact, if they have budged in any - polls have not budged. in fact, if| they have budged in any direction over the overall average, they have nudged very gently in the direction
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of the labour party.— nudged very gently in the direction of the labour party. however, what someone else _ of the labour party. however, what someone else close _ of the labour party. however, what someone else close to _ of the labour party. however, what someone else close to the - of the labour party. however, what| someone else close to the campaign are said to me was they did feel relatively content about, although not punching the air saying we are saved,it not punching the air saying we are saved, it is fine, they did feel actually that they had been able to set some of the terms of the conversation, they had managed to grab voters' attention, which they felt for months they were not even listening, actually there is a chink that at least people might go, oh, well, they have given us something to talk about, maybe we will take a little bit of a look. so it is interesting that mps are saying that on the doors and that conversation is mirrored by many others because mps have been in westminster a lot of the time and in their constituencies, but suddenly they are going around knocking on lots of doors, talking to hundreds of photos and i think there is that sense of coming back from the doorstep that actually it is feral for them at there. but it is still early, voters
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are still volatile and there are still huge numbers of people who don't know in the polling that comes across. there is only one poll that counts, it is the one when people put in the box. again the tories were coming out with new policies today. victoria atkins on the show was promising more community health care, more pharmacies giving more treatments, and the two examples they pick to infections and acne. felt talking to people about acne might not get people dancing in their seats. it might not get people dancing in their seats-— might not get people dancing in their seats. , , ., , their seats. it is the same people, ou can their seats. it is the same people, you can join _ their seats. it is the same people, you can join up — their seats. it is the same people, you canjoin up in _ their seats. it is the same people, you can join up in the _ their seats. it is the same people, you can join up in the army - their seats. it is the same people, you can join up in the army and . their seats. it is the same people, j you can join up in the army and we you canjoin up in the army and we can treat your acne whilst you are there. , ., can treat your acne whilst you are there. ,., , , can treat your acne whilst you are there. , , , , there. on both sides, yesterday there. on both sides, yesterday there was _ there. on both sides, yesterday there was a _ there. on both sides, yesterday there was a mock-up _ there. on both sides, yesterday there was a mock-up of- there. on both sides, yesterday there was a mock-up of angela | there. on both sides, yesterday - there was a mock-up of angela rayner there was a mock—up of angela rayner texting diane abbott saying, don't worry, i will sort it, love and joy. and on the other side the tories faced a lot of labour and social media activity around young people being told they would have to do compulsory national service of one
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kind or another, whether it is voluntary. but this morning the tory activist said there will be 100 new gp surgeries, they would expand the scheme which is called pharmacy first where you can get different kinds of treatment. the problem for the tories with this policy is it is a representation of the problem they will have across the board. as soon as you start digging into the numbers, which of course we did yesterday when we need this announcement was coming, you look at what has happened in the years before and gps and surgeries have shut and more than a hundred pharmacies had been cut over a particular period of time and funding had been cut over a particular period of time, so victoria atkins did not want to acknowledge this, but a lot of voters will look at their plans as they come out and essentially think they come out and essentially think they are unpicking their previous mistakes. ~ , ., , they are unpicking their previous mistakes. , ., , ~ ., mistakes. with pharmacies we know that four out — mistakes. with pharmacies we know that four out of _ mistakes. with pharmacies we know that four out of five _ mistakes. with pharmacies we know that four out of five people - mistakes. with pharmacies we know that four out of five people are - that four out of five people are within — that four out of five people are within a — that four out of five people are within a 20 minute walk of their nearest — within a 20 minute walk of their nearest pharmacy and there is a much
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higher— nearest pharmacy and there is a much higher concentration of pharmacies in deprived areas, which means that we will— in deprived areas, which means that we will be _ in deprived areas, which means that we will be able to for these basic conditions — we will be able to for these basic conditions be able to secure faster access— conditions be able to secure faster access to — conditions be able to secure faster access to health care. but conditions be able to secure faster access to health care.— access to health care. but services have disappeared. _ access to health care. but services have disappeared. if— access to health care. but services have disappeared. if i _ access to health care. but services have disappeared. if i may - access to health care. but services have disappeared. if i may on - access to health care. but services have disappeared. if i may on the | access to health care. but services i have disappeared. if i may on the gp oint, we have disappeared. if i may on the gp point. we have _ have disappeared. if i may on the gp point, we have 2711 _ have disappeared. if i may on the gp point, we have 2711 more _ have disappeared. if i may on the gp point, we have 2711 more gps - have disappeared. if i may on the gp| point, we have 2711 more gps working in the _ point, we have 2711 more gps working in the nhs _ point, we have 2711 more gps working in the nhs and even in 2019. the population _ in the nhs and even in 2019. the population is _ in the nhs and even in 2019. iie: population is bigger. in the nhs and even in 2019. the population is bigger. and - in the nhs and even in 2019. the population is bigger. and we - in the nhs and even in 2019. the | population is bigger. and we have seen record _ population is bigger. and we have seen record numbers _ population is bigger. and we have seen record numbers working - population is bigger. and we have i seen record numbers working across primary— seen record numbers working across primary care, some 39,000 staff. if you go— primary care, some 39,000 staff. if you go to _ primary care, some 39,000 staff. if you go to some of the gp practices i see on— you go to some of the gp practices i see on my— you go to some of the gp practices i see on my travels with as the health secretary. _ see on my travels with as the health secretary, you will see they have not just _ secretary, you will see they have not just gps, secretary, you will see they have notjust gps, but secretary, you will see they have not just gps, but they are supported by physios. — not just gps, but they are supported by physios, by nurses, they are supported — by physios, by nurses, they are supported by paramedics, so there are different ways in which people can access — are different ways in which people can access primary care. this are different ways in which people can access primary care.— are different ways in which people can access primary care. this is the conservative _ can access primary care. this is the conservative challenge _ can access primary care. this is the conservative challenge across - can access primary care. this is the conservative challenge across the l conservative challenge across the board. they are running on a record and they are running on a 1a year record and the other parties simply
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don't have that. that applies also to another area where you questioned her, which was social care. you said where is your plan? we have known this has been a huge issue for 1a years. victoria atkins said, well, i think to be fair it goes back further than that. that is true, a big part of the 2010 general election was andy burnham, the then health secretary's plan, which the conservatives labelled as a death tax. yes, this all goes back a long way, but that is a harder argument to make when you have had 1a years to make when you have had 1a years to be the ones to fix it. find to make when you have had 14 years to be the ones to fix it.— to be the ones to fix it. and also when your— to be the ones to fix it. and also when your own _ to be the ones to fix it. and also when your own leaders - to be the ones to fix it. and also when your own leaders have - to be the ones to fix it. and also| when your own leaders have said to be the ones to fix it. and also - when your own leaders have said they would fix it and they haven't. george osborne dropped it because it would cost £6 billion. imagine that now 1a years on a leader said and was told by the treasury it would cost £6 billion to fix this problem. they would probably bite your hand up they would probably bite your hand up and say, fine, let's do it. back then in 2011, i am getting old, but george osborne in the treasury basically turned it down. but boris
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johnson stood outside downing street and said to fix the nhs you have to fix social care and i will do it. theresa may had her calamity in 2017. ., ., , ., 2017. that was the real turning oint in 2017. that was the real turning point in this — 2017. that was the real turning point in this country. _ 2017. that was the real turning point in this country. they - 2017. that was the real turning l point in this country. they made 2017. that was the real turning i point in this country. they made a decision and they said we are going to win this election, let's get the public to endorse something that indifferent different times might be unpalatable. and it collapsed their general election campaign. i am sure there are people in both party hqs thinking in an ideal world whether we would put detail, complex, tricky plans on social care in there, but why would any party strategist do that after what happened to theresa may in 2017?— that after what happened to theresa ma in2017? ,_ ., ., ., may in 2017? anybody who works in a hos - ital or may in 2017? anybody who works in a hospital or in — may in 2017? anybody who works in a hospital or in the _ may in 2017? anybody who works in a hospital or in the health _ may in 2017? anybody who works in a hospital or in the health service - may in 2017? anybody who works in a hospital or in the health service as i hospital or in the health service as a gp or even social workers, anybody would tell you this is something thatis would tell you this is something that is having huge problems, it has terrible impact on families' lives and that goes around the uk because health is devolved. there are really profound problems in this country
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with how we care for our vulnerable and elderly. it is not simple for any politician, but it does look like we are going into a general election where nobody has got the guts to put forward anything very significant. in the last six months we have repeatedly asked wes streeting, and it has become a bit of a gag with him, every time he comes on the show, where is your social care plan? he says it is coming and it has not. i don't think it will be in the labour manifesto in any big way. yes, all the big parties have ideas to do with things around social care, but a kind of big bang, bold reform does not seem to be anywhere in sight. wes streeting today accuse the tories are breaking the manifesto promise on gps. the lib dems dated cooper told us about the lib dems' plans for a billion a yearfor told us about the lib dems' plans for a billion a year for public health. , . ., , health. this particular pledge will be funded by _ health. this particular pledge will be funded by cracking _ health. this particular pledge will be funded by cracking down - health. this particular pledge will be funded by cracking down on i health. this particular pledge will| be funded by cracking down on tax avoidance —
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be funded by cracking down on tax avoidance. , ,., .., be funded by cracking down on tax avoidance. , , avoidance. every political party alwa s avoidance. every political party always has _ avoidance. every political party always has the _ avoidance. every political party always has the and _ avoidance. every political party always has the and the - avoidance. every political party always has the and the returns| avoidance. every political party - always has the and the returns are not what they hope for. taste always has the and the returns are not what they hope for.— not what they hope for. we have a fully costed _ not what they hope for. we have a fully costed manifesto, _ not what they hope for. we have a fully costed manifesto, but - not what they hope for. we have a fully costed manifesto, but the - fully costed manifesto, but the conservatives _ fully costed manifesto, but the conservatives themselves - fully costed manifesto, but the conservatives themselves sayl fully costed manifesto, but the - conservatives themselves say they could _ conservatives themselves say they could raise — conservatives themselves say they could raise 6 — conservatives themselves say they could raise 6 billion— conservatives themselves say they could raise 6 billion from - conservatives themselves say they could raise 6 billion from tax- could raise 6 billion from tax avoidance _ could raise 6 billion from tax avoidance and _ could raise 6 billion from tax avoidance and the _ could raise 6 billion from tax avoidance and the question i could raise 6 billion from tax- avoidance and the question arises why they— avoidance and the question arises why they have _ avoidance and the question arises why they have not _ avoidance and the question arises why they have not done _ avoidance and the question arises why they have not done it - avoidance and the question arisesi why they have not done it already. avoidance and the question arises i why they have not done it already. i am why they have not done it already. am going to get a big red button why they have not done it already.“ am going to get a big red button and every time somebody says fully costed dr punam krishnan every time somebody says tax avoidance... last weekend they came up with 6 billion in tax avoidance there are going to find at the back of the sofa the hands of hmrc. but that was lib dem dated cooper on our show this morning. there has been a lot of news. 0ne morning. there has been a lot of news. one last thing to mention because we have done a lot about it on this programme and also on sunday mornings, you might remember a really heartbreaking interview that we have done with the families of people who have lost their children in relation to things that have happened on social media. 0ne
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in relation to things that have happened on social media. one of the things bereaved families have campaigned on was for tech companies to have to hand over their kids permit content, to show them and share their messages and photos after they had passed away. they had fought for that, the government had agreed to it, but that promise was dropped in the panic of trying to get legislation through when the election was called, the so—called wash—up. we talked about it on newscast. this morning we asked if whichever party wins with they commit to bringing that in and fixing that. it had already been agreed and these families have campaigned for a long time and they were devastated it had not gone through parliament. labour's yvette cooper said they would do it right away. victoria atkins said if it was up away. victoria atkins said if it was up to me, absolutely, yes, but you will have to wait and see for the manifesto. i wanted to put that out there, it is an issue we have talked about it a lot. it is one of these things where it is not the kind of meat and drink of a general
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election, but that whole issue of what happens to kids when they are online is massive. we know it is massive, our inboxes are always full of these things. i wanted to share that. �* ., , ., , that. and i have spoken about this as well and _ that. and i have spoken about this as well and they _ that. and i have spoken about this as well and they are _ that. and i have spoken about this as well and they are the _ that. and i have spoken about this as well and they are the most - as well and they are the most powerful, eloquent courses because of what has happened to people and their children and they are the doubtinghis campaigners and any government whatever hue that tries to delay or obfuscate, they ain't going to win. the conservative government has learned that lesson and any government would learn that pretty fast. ian and any government would learn that re fast. ., , , , pretty fast. ian russell is publishing _ pretty fast. ian russell is publishing a _ pretty fast. ian russell is publishing a manifesto i pretty fast. ian russell is - publishing a manifesto tomorrow, pretty fast. ian russell is _ publishing a manifesto tomorrow, the father of molly who took her own life after her experiences on social media, so maybe that will be something that we will talk about on tomorrow's new car. lovely to be with everybody listening and watching on the sunday's new cars. goodbye. watching on the sunday's new cars. goodb e. , ,
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sunday so much in the way of sunshine for central and eastern england and lighter winds as well. that had a very significant impact and for some it was 7 degrees warmer on sunday than it had been on saturday. the temperatures topped out at about 23 degrees in one or two spots as well. that was the scene in poole in dorset with beach—goers enjoying the warm june sunshine. the cloudy skies worked in across stirling. 0vernight the cloud will be thick enough for occasional spots of rain and it will push southwards. 0verall spots of rain and it will push southwards. overall it will turn cloudier through the night and it is a milder night compared to last night. lows of between ten and 13 degrees. tomorrow we start off with with cloudy skies for northern ireland and western parts of england
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and wales with the occasional spot of drizzle. through the day the cloud may well thin and break particularly in the east of high ground to allow some sunny spells through. we should see some sunshine developing in scotland through the day with few showers in the north. when the sunshine comes out it is the high teens to the low 20s and it should feel quite pleasant, but it will feel less pleasant on tuesday and wednesday. no pressure to the north of the uk will send much colder air our way and we will see rain or showers in the northern half of the uk. chilly winds here and with the downpours working in to scotland, quite a few will have hail and thunder mixed in and a few showers developing further south. temperatures still doing 0k in england and wales but it will be chilly for scotland and northern ireland, particularly in those brisk winds. a similar weather picture for wednesday. showers and thunderstorms, some with hail in the northern part of the uk and the
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driest weather in the wales, midlands and east anglia. temperatures, the high teens to the low 20s will feel 0k in england and wales, habitually for scotland and northern ireland. there is no great change in that weather pattern. it stays cool and showery for scotland and northern ireland, england and wales have the best of the dry and sunny weather. live from london. this is bbc news. in the uk, scotland's dirst ministerjohn swinney officially launches the snp's general election campaign — less than a month after
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he became party leader. there are some people telling me to forget about independence at this election, but you know what? after looking at sur keir starmer's serial u—turns in the pew seat of power, i think people are crying out for political leadership that sticks to its principles. —— in the pursuit of power. mexicans are at the polls in an election which is almost certain to result in the country's first female president. south africa's ruling anc says it will talk to all parties about forming a coalition government after losing its majority for the first time in 30 years. two key far—right figures in israel's government threaten to leave their posts if benjamin netanyahu agrees to the us—backed peace proposal on gaza. and a chinese spacecraft has landed on the far side of the moon in a landmark mission to retrieve rock and soil samples. hello, i'm nicky schiller.
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