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torment, of casual and yet devilish torment, of casual and yet devilish torment, of the party of which he used to be a member become a because they fear a member become a because they fear a disproportionate number of their recent voters are lured towards his party and already were stop and now nigel farage at the helm and the prospect that because of his capacity to generate attention and to be to some of the magnitude terms of lowering towards him the other end of the microphone, not pushing them away, can be dangerous for the conservatives, as if rishi sunak needed any more grim news after some opinion polls from the last few days suggesting things look really bleak for him. it’s suggesting things look really bleak for him. �* , ., suggesting things look really bleak for him. �*, ., suggesting things look really bleak for him. 3 ., ., suggesting things look really bleak forhim. �*, ., ., , for him. it's worth saying, what is interesting _ for him. it's worth saying, what is interesting is _ for him. it's worth saying, what is interesting is that _ for him. it's worth saying, what is interesting is that when _ for him. it's worth saying, what is interesting is that when nigel - interesting is that when nigel farage — interesting is that when nigel farage was saying why he wouldn't stand. part — farage was saying why he wouldn't stand, part of the reason he said is because _ stand, part of the reason he said is because he — stand, part of the reason he said is because he couldn't get a campaign together, _ because he couldn't get a campaign together, it caught him by this prize _ together, it caught him by this prize and — together, it caught him by this prize and all the rest of it. there is another— prize and all the rest of it. there is anotherto prize and all the rest of it. there is anothe ., , prize and all the rest of it. there is anothe— prize and all the rest of it. there is anothe ., , ., is another to this, the fact that he is another to this, the fact that he is now going _ is another to this, the fact that he is now going to — is another to this, the fact that he is now going to have _ is another to this, the fact that he is now going to have to _ is another to this, the fact that he is now going to have to try - is another to this, the fact that he is now going to have to try and . is now going to have to try and win a constituency seat because he has
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failed seven times before, and a constituency seat because he has failed seven times before,- failed seven times before, and he has failed at _ failed seven times before, and he has failed at quite _ failed seven times before, and he has failed at quite a _ failed seven times before, and he has failed at quite a lot _ failed seven times before, and he has failed at quite a lot at - failed seven times before, and he has failed at quite a lot at it, - has failed at quite a lot at it, the party— has failed at quite a lot at it, the party that— has failed at quite a lot at it, the party that he previously led prior to reform — party that he previously led prior to reform uk was writing pretty high _ high. he wasn't able high. — he wasn't able to translate high. he wasn't able to translate that into a _ he wasn't able to translate that into a parliamentary seat win. 50 i think_ into a parliamentary seat win. 50 i think there's also massive risk here for nigel— think there's also massive risk here for nigel farage because if he doesn't — for nigel farage because if he doesn't win, that doesn't look good for him _ doesn't win, that doesn't look good for him and — doesn't win, that doesn't look good for him and there's also the question of how much you can dedicate — question of how much you can dedicate to campaigning across the country— dedicate to campaigning across the country when he is attempting to win a constituency seat, and there was also a _ a constituency seat, and there was also a third — a constituency seat, and there was also a third question about the fact that we _ also a third question about the fact that we do— also a third question about the fact that we do rightly say from his point — that we do rightly say from his point of— that we do rightly say from his point of view he is a influential figure — point of view he is a influential figure in— point of view he is a influential figure in politics, that goes beyond any doubt, — figure in politics, that goes beyond any doubt, there are very nervous conservatives and the possibility that it _ conservatives and the possibility that it does have a significant impact — that it does have a significant impact on the conservative vote, but you also _ impact on the conservative vote, but you also have to remember nigel farage _ you also have to remember nigel farage is — you also have to remember nigel farage is a — you also have to remember nigel farage is a hugely divisive figure. 50 farage is a hugely divisive figure. so as— farage is a hugely divisive figure. so as much— farage is a hugely divisive figure. 50 as much as this might galvanise so as much as this might galvanise support, _ so as much as this might galvanise support, it — so as much as this might galvanise support, it could also galvanise opposition to this party because he does divide opinion. 50 opposition to this party because he does divide opinion. sol opposition to this party because he does divide opinion. 50 i think there — does divide opinion. 50 i think there are _ does divide opinion. 50 i think there are risks here as well a. a
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-ood there are risks here as well a. good scottish word for not being able to make up your mind, slithering, whether this is or a weakness move by nigel farage. even himself brought up that distinction. for all the reasons you've just given there, strength mover, particularly the fact that it means that rishi sunak will not have to come up with even more reform voter friendly personalities like national service and the triple lock for pensions to sort of stop even more conservative potential voters becoming reform potential voters. so that's the kind of strength thing. the other end of the telescope is there could be a strong thing or not. is this not a suggestion that maybe sunak�*s strategy of squashing potential reform voters by love bombing them with policies was actually working? so reform or having —— reform are having to up their game now to counter that. it just shows you, maybe nigel farage's politicaljudgment is in spot on if he has had to massively you turn on his two big decisions about how to
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fight this election in less then a week. also, does this marked the end of the experiment of trying to make finally, finally a party that was more than one person, nigel farage, and more thanjust more than one person, nigel farage, and more than just one policy, talking about immigration and brexit all the time. actually, that the experiment only lasted a couple of months and they have gone back to basically, we could argue, being a vehicle for nigel farage that mainly talks about immigration. you vehicle for nigel farage that mainly talks about immigration.— talks about immigration. you know what? no, — talks about immigration. you know what? no, chris, _ talks about immigration. you know what? no, chris, you _ talks about immigration. you know what? no, chris, you go _ talks about immigration. you know what? no, chris, you go one. - talks about immigration. you know what? no, chris, you go one. justl talks about immigration. you know| what? no, chris, you go one. just a note a few — what? no, chris, you go one. just a note a few points _ what? no, chris, you go one. just a note a few points that you - what? no, chris, you go one. just a note a few points that you say, - note a few points that you say, adam, — note a few points that you say, adam, his— note a few points that you say, adam, his former party spent a long time trying — adam, his former party spent a long time trying to break away from that nigel— time trying to break away from that nigel farage branding and the where a single _ nigel farage branding and the where a single issue party, and, they never— a single issue party, and, they never thought they were going to wind loads of seats in this election, it was about trying to build _ election, it was about trying to build in — election, it was about trying to build in the next election, they would've — build in the next election, they would've argued. it was a longer—term strategy that they had. and i_ longer—term strategy that they had. and i wonder now if what this does to in the _ and i wonder now if what this does to in the longer term, never mind this election is going to leave them
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having _ this election is going to leave them having to _ this election is going to leave them having to do exactly as did and break— having to do exactly as did and break that brand of single issue and 'ust break that brand of single issue and just another quick point, it was interesting and nigel farage's press today, _ interesting and nigel farage's press today, you're all going to say there's— today, you're all going to say there's a _ today, you're all going to say there's a big split in the party and we are _ there's a big split in the party and we are all— there's a big split in the party and we are allarguing there's a big split in the party and we are all arguing with each other and we _ we are all arguing with each other and we don't get on very well. and that is— and we don't get on very well. and that is not— and we don't get on very well. and that is not true we get on brilliantly. who's been trying to build _ brilliantly. who's been trying to build reform uk has had to step aside _ build reform uk has had to step aside for— build reform uk has had to step aside for nigel farage and had a fallout— aside for nigel farage and had a fallout before the election, and it was interesting that nigel farage had to— was interesting that nigel farage had to publicly say, "we are getting on well— had to publicly say, "we are getting on well despite that." had to publicly say, "we are getting on well despite that. "— on well despite that." ultimately for ni . el on well despite that." ultimately for nigel farage, _ on well despite that." ultimately for nigel farage, the _ on well despite that." ultimately for nigel farage, the lure - on well despite that." ultimately for nigel farage, the lure of - on well despite that." ultimately for nigel farage, the lure of the | for nigel farage, the lure of the flame of attention was just too big, too tantalising, too mesmerising to walk past, and i don't say that with any suggestion of cynicism. if you are in politics, you want to be and seek to be influential and seek to be at the moments when you can exact the greatest influence. and i think
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he felt that this was something he couldn't walk past. i think particularly on the issue of leadership because he would know... he would have a far greater case for let me go on the television and the leaders debates were lots of party leaders debates were lots of party leaders are appearing, for instance, let's appear more frequently and doing the sort of media rounds. whilst nigel farage and richard tice share plenty politically, mr tice will be the first to acknowledge that nigel farage's capacity or for the prospects around, particularly as part of what they say it's a two and one strategy. if it is to be that kind of strategy, it is nearly over. that kind of strategy, it is nearly over- they _ that kind of strategy, it is nearly over. they sat _ that kind of strategy, it is nearly over. they sat to _ that kind of strategy, it is nearly over. they sat to achieve - that kind of strategy, it is nearly - over. they sat to achieve something out of this one _
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over. they sat to achieve something out of this one that _ over. they sat to achieve something out of this one that gives them - over. they sat to achieve something out of this one that gives them the l out of this one that gives them the building blocks for a future one, because my goodness five years is one heck of a long time so just getting that prospect of getting stuck in end properly stuck in, alex, you made this point, i was saying a week ago when people were saying, is it significant that nigel farage is choosing not to stand in a seat? well, actually, doesn't mean he can campaign more freely and vigorously geographically wherever he is drawn to. whereas actually, from reform �*s perspective and indeed his perspective now, he has a contradiction in terms of where he allocates his time. does he spend the vast majority of time and clocked in with the obvious opportunity cuts, or does he spend lots of time and lots of other places and potentially undermine his campaign in claxton? it is really, really hard for a small party to win. you need that concentrated
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geographical pocket of support. we know that isn't easy and liberal democrats will be the first to tell you a similar story. where he spends his time is a real dilemma for him. just imagine, imagine this was any other political party and keir starmer was at the podium and he said, and i'm pleased to welcome my special guest to this news conference, its former prime minister, tony blair, and 20 by went to the microphone and said, "i'm taking over as leader." "we are not going to have a contest. the normal rules just don't apply to this party." rulesjust don't apply to this .a _" ., �* , ., ., rulesjust don't apply to this .a _" ., �*, ., ., party. " that's what i thought it was interestin: party. " that's what i thought it was interesting that _ party. " that's what i thought it was interesting that they _ party. " that's what i thought it was interesting that they thought - party. " that's what i thought it was interesting that they thought they l interesting that they thought they were getting on brilliantly behind the scenes, because i have absolutely come i'm not suggesting it all they— absolutely come i'm not suggesting it all they are not because i have no information to the contrary, but it isjust _ no information to the contrary, but it isjust so — no information to the contrary, but it isjust so extraordinary no information to the contrary, but it is just so extraordinary that at this point— it is just so extraordinary that at this point in a campaign, the leader of a party— this point in a campaign, the leader of a party would just be switched like that — of a party would just be switched like that. it'sjust an extraordinary thing. and i think, you know. — extraordinary thing. and i think, you know, it doesn't happen very often _
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you know, it doesn't happen very often four— you know, it doesn't happen very often. fourand half you know, it doesn't happen very often. four and half weeks out. the next thin often. four and half weeks out. tie: next thing we've got to look forward to, who knows what will happen between now and this point i'm about to talk about because it's tuesday night and we are going back to preview, the first had to had come a rishi sunak versus keir starmer hosted by itv. we are going to do an extra episode of newscast on tuesday morning talking about... share extra episode of newscast on tuesday morning talking about. . ._ morning talking about... are we? yeah, morning talking about... are we? yeah. have _ morning talking about... are we? yeah. have a _ morning talking about... are we? yeah, have a not _ morning talking about... are we? yeah, have a not invited - morning talking about... are we? yeah, have a not invited you? - morning talking about... are we? | yeah, have a not invited you? out. morning talking about... are we? i yeah, have a not invited you? out. i like to bring the news to gradually bit by bit. like to bring the news to gradually bit b bit. ., . �*, like to bring the news to gradually bit by bit-— l- like to bring the news to gradually bit by bit.— | think| bit by bit. no, that's good. i think someone else _ bit by bit. no, that's good. i think someone else is _ bit by bit. no, that's good. i think someone else is doing _ bit by bit. no, that's good. i think someone else is doing it, - bit by bit. no, that's good. i think someone else is doing it, chris. i someone else is doing it, chris. what to? ! in someone else is doing it, chris. what to? i— someone else is doing it, chris. what to? ! in a very richard tice - niel what to? ! in a very richard tice - nigel farage _ what to? ! in a very richard tice - nigel farage move. _ what to? ! in a very richard tice - nigel farage move. but _ what to? ! in a very richard tice - nigel farage move. but to - what to? ! in a very richard tice - nigel farage move. but to give . nigel farage move. but to give you your bites of the cherry in advance before henry gets his, obviously we will soak it all up. you will be watching it scribbling down all the zingers, you will do an amazing piece on the news about the best bits... ., . piece on the news about the best bits- - -_ how - piece on the news about the best bits. . ._ how high l piece on the news about the best i bits. . ._ how high top bits... you say that... how high top should we — bits... you say that... how high top should we get. _ bits... you say that... how high top should we get, do _ bits... you say that... how high top should we get, do you _ bits... you say that... how high top should we get, do you think, for. should we get, do you think, for this? ., . , ~ ,
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this? collectively, ithink there is ajournalistic— this? collectively, i think there is a journalistic class _ this? collectively, ithink there is a journalistic class to _ this? collectively, i think there is a journalistic class to get - a journalistic class to get incredibly hyped up by these things. i'm a bit more sceptical whilst obviously contributing to the my fair smashing, obviously contributing to the my fairsmashing, not obviously contributing to the my fair smashing, not tight but fairly sort of verbiage and pictures and sound. it is clearly a moment. it's clearly a moment in this campaign because the two guys, one of which is going to be prime ministerfrom the fifth day ofjuly onwards is going to come from those two. it's the first, if you like, yeah, stage—managed moment where you see the two of them trying to make that argument to millions of people in one go, both on television and then all the kind of repackaging on television and radio and social media, all the rest of it that will come in the days after that. to give you some sense of how much importance the leaders attached to it, there is a reason they have done one thing each today and then pretty much disappeared, that is because they are preparing, they are
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practising, they are doing mock debates within their own teams, they are thinking about lines of attack and lines of defence, and both sides are doing that. so they get how important today's. how much does it change the outcome? big question. and we are also, let's remember, in the grand scheme of election campaigns, stilli million miles from polling day. when the bbc does its equivalent with the two prime ministerial candidates, which is a weekend a day before polling day, thatis weekend a day before polling day, that is at the other end of this month. so the one happening tomorrow probably will feel like a distant memory. who knows, there might be a standout moment, remember when it miliband fell off the stage in leads in 2015. so there might be a moment that becomes a campaign moment. —— in leeds. but, you know what? there might not be. mr; in leeds. but, you know what? there might not be— might not be. my british election histo , might not be. my british election history. alex. — might not be. my british election history, alex, you're _ might not be. my british election history, alex, you're the - might not be. my british election history, alex, you're the life - might not be. my british election history, alex, you're the life and| history, alex, you're the life and soul of the party, and i would love a lift home with you at the end of the night, and i agree with chris.
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0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is aood at 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is good at this- _ 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is good at this. he _ 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is good at this. he really _ 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is good at this. he really is. - 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is good at this. he really is. and - 0h, he is flicking me, alex. he is. good at this. he really is. and that brinus us good at this. he really is. and that brings us to _ good at this. he really is. and that brings us to the _ good at this. he really is. and that brings us to the end _ good at this. he really is. and that brings us to the end of— good at this. he really is. and that brings us to the end of this - good at this. he really is. and that| brings us to the end of this episode of newscast. we actually recorded some extra bonus material which you will be able to hear on the podcast version, which you will be able to hear on bbc sounds. we will be back with another episode very soon. goodbye. with another episode very soon. goodb e. , . . , with another episode very soon. goodb e. _., ., with another episode very soon. goodb e. ., �* �* hello there. monday was dominated by some contrasting conditions. the best of the sunshine certainly was through scotland, and in fact, a beautiful afternoon in st andrew's fife. but the story will change through tomorrow. further south, some cloud, thick enough fot the odd spot or two of drizzle stubbornly sat there through much of the day. now, the change, though, is coming with these weather fronts that are gradually pushing in to the northwest of scotland. behind it, cold air tucks in, centred close to this low pressure is where we're likely to see
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the strongest of the winds and the sharpest, most frequent showers. but the fronts will continue to slip their way steadily south as we go through the morning on tuesday. early morning sunshine in east anglia and southeast england will gradually be clouding over as we go into the afternoon. but we should see some warmth still with that early sunshine, 21 celsius. there'll be some showery outbreaks of rain continuing, and the back edge, the brighter greens denoting there could be some heavy showers with hail and thunder. not a bad end to the day through northern ireland and the scottish borders, but a frequent rash of showers here in the northwest and a cooler feel already, only highs 01:10—14 celsius. so those fronts continue to push their way south and east. and then under that influence of low pressure, with the wind direction changing to a north westerly, a cooler air source is going to spill its way right across the country. temperatures just below par, really, for this time of year. it'll be a chilly start to our wednesday morning, low single figures in some areas of rural scotland. but generally we're looking at single figures to greet us first thing on wednesday.
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there should be some early morning sunshine across england and wales. we might cling on to some sunny spells as well, but a frequent rash of showers will develop into the far north and west. a brisk northwesterly wind here, too, and temperatures peaking at around 11—14 celsius in scotland and northern ireland, highest values of 15—18 celsius across england and wales. so even with the sunshine, that's still a little disappointing. the low pressure not moving very far, very fast. high pressure is trying desperately hard to build in from the southwest for the end of the week and into the weekend. so don't expect any significant change, but it's likely the best of the drier, brighter weather will be reserved across england and wales. further north and west, we keep those sharp showers going.
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country works anymore. why did you change your mind? who says i have? well, why you said a few weeks ago, you said ten days ago, you weren't going to stand, so why change? have you ever changed your mind? about anything, ever? if you're going to stand for the reform — if you're going to stand for the reform uk party, this is a good place _ reform uk party, this is a good place to— reform uk party, this is a good place to stand.— reform uk party, this is a good place to stand. some of the things he sa s place to stand. some of the things he says and _ place to stand. some of the things he says and done, _ place to stand. some of the things he says and done, it's _ place to stand. some of the things he says and done, it's good - place to stand. some of the things he says and done, it's good or- he says and done, it's good or better— he says and done, it's good or better still, _ he says and done, it's good or better still, but— he says and done, it's good or better still, but i— he says and done, it's good or better still, but i would - he says and done, it's good or better still, but i would not. he says and done, it's good or. better still, but i would not want him running _ better still, but i would not want him running the _ better still, but i would not want him running the country. - nigel farage has confirmed that he will stand as an mp and take over as the leader of reform uk. he will be running in clacton on sea in essex and will launch his candidacy tomorrow. we will get the view of tim montgomerie shortly. sir keir starmer says the country's defence will be in safe hands with a labour government but a former defence secretary says the oppposition is not being honest about the numbers.
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