claims on labour's tax plans. campaigning continues across the country — we'll focus on two battleground constituencies. welcome to bbc news. the king and queen, and the prince of wales, have joined second world war veterans at an event in portsmouth to mark this week's 80th anniversary of d—day. the normandy landings were the largest seaborne invasion in history, with the 191m battle laying the foundation for an allied victory. the special ceremony was narrated by dame helen mirren — and included a fly—past by the red arrows. on the french side of the channel a spectacular recreation has been taking place of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings.

as frank gardner reports. war planes from another time. memories from 80 years ago. today, a chance to honor those men and women who took part in d—day, the operation that helped end the second world war. service chiefs, prime ministers past and present, the royalfamily and of course, the veterans. roy haywood was 19 on that day, a trooper in the sherwood rangers. i landed in on the evening of d—day, and three weeks later i was so badly damaged that they had to amputate both my legs below the knee. i returned home eventually, and i have to say that i always considered myself one of the lucky ones that survived because so many of us didn't.

this was the largest ever amphibious invasion in human history, over150,000 british, us, canadian and french troops landing on normandy�*s beaches under withering fire from german defenses. let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honor those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for. honoring america, the us participation in the d—day landings was key. over one and a half million americans crossed the atlantic to help save europe from nazi occupation. eric bateman, a royal navy veteran, is here today with his great granddaughters. we were with the american fleet

on the way to utah beach where there were ships, as far as you could see. we want to thank our great grandfather and all the veterans of d—day and the normandy landings. without them, we would not - have the freedom we enjoy today. we will never forget. thank you. amid musical tributes from the band of the royal marines, a message to the troops that day in 191m from general montgomery read by the prime minister. the time has come to deal the enemy a terrific blow in western europe. the blow will be struck by the combined sea, land and air forces of the allies. perhaps the most immortal words of this historic event were introduced today by the actor dame helen mirren. this mission for freedom was breathtaking in scale

and overwhelming in complexity. quite simply, the future of the world was at stake. we shall fight on the beaches. we still fight on the landing grounds. we shall fight in the fields and in the streets. we shall fight in the hills. we shall never surrender. frank gardener, bbc news. you saw some of the young people in frank's report and those events devised to impart, educate and inspire to today's young people. our correspondent danjohnson has been speaking to some of the veterans and schoolchildren who are marking the anniversary in portsmouth. today is about polished pride and shiny service medals, of national pride,

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remarkable images and stories of the people who served. iam i am looking at the words of the king in his speech, he said stories of courage, resilience and solidarity cannot fail to move us, inspire us and remind us of what we noted that wartime generation. that is the point of events like today, to remind us of their sacrifice. it really is, it was incredibly emotional service for everyone watching, and there is pictures of the queen in tears in the royal box. all these stories of sacrifice, this entire generation that gave so much. 80 years ago today, where at this stage is, where the audience were sat, it would have been so different, full of thousands and thousands of allied troops preparing to go to normandy. and they had no idea what to expect. some of them were so young they hadn't even been on a beach before, they hadn't been

on a beach before, they hadn't been on a beach before, they hadn't been on a boat before. it had not faced military action and they were going into battle, it must have been incredibly terrifying and we heard the stories of some of those soldiers today, one of them walked on stage and said he was 19 on d—day and he was part of a tank regiment and he was part of a tank regiment and he was very badly injured and he lost both his legs below the knees, but he said he felt he was one of the lucky ones because he survived any came home. he said in fact he was here today to represent all those comrades who are no longer here. it is an shrinking group unfortunately of d—day veterans, the youngest are in their late 90s and a lot of them say how important it is for them to share their stories and memories, so what they did and their friends dead isn't forgotten. it is a sad statistic, _ friends dead isn't forgotten. it is a sad statistic, i _ friends dead isn't forgotten. it is a sad statistic, i am _ friends dead isn't forgotten. it is a sad statistic, i am looking at the numbers here. five years ago there were 225 veterans who were able to

travel to normandy for this commemoration is. this yearjust 23, and it does feel like it is poignant given it will soon pass from living memory. it given it will soon pass from living memo . ., , .., memory. it will, and it will become histo . memory. it will, and it will become history- the _ memory. it will, and it will become history. the number _ memory. it will, and it will become history. the number of _ memory. it will, and it will become history. the number of people - memory. it will, and it will become history. the number of people that j history. the number of people that actually remember it happening are shrinking and it will become history, it is a thing we are taught in schools about d—day, and there were lots of schoolchildren in the audience today, hundreds of local schoolchildren. it was interesting when they came in, they were waving their union flags at the tv cameras and excited, but then as soon as the stories started from the veteran, they were very quiet and respectful, and they were really taking it in. it was at times really emotional, but it was also celebratory about what those remarkable people achieved. they changed the course of history, their actions saved the western world. d—day was the beginning of the end for nazi

germany, and those people that crossed the channel didn't know what to expect but their actions had such an amazing effect.— an amazing effect. thank you, we will be back— an amazing effect. thank you, we will be back with _ an amazing effect. thank you, we will be back with you _ an amazing effect. thank you, we will be back with you a _ an amazing effect. thank you, we will be back with you a little - will be back with you a little later. those events taking place on both sides of the channel, today in portsmouth and went much of this moves to normandy across the channel in the coming days. we will have full coverage for you here on bbc news. the conservatives have defended a key accusation about labour's tax plans — which rishi sunak used repeatedly against sir keir starmer — in last night's first it comes after a letter from the most senior treasury civil servant said the claim — that labour policies would amount to a £2,000 tax rise on households — should not be presented as having been costed by the independent civil service. labour said the figure was "a lie", but this afternoon the tories insisted they stood by their claim. this report from our political

correspondentjessica parker. it was the first live tv showdown of this election between the two men who could be your next prime minister. the nhs, the cost of living and tax took centre stage, including a repeated conservative claim... mark my words, labour will raise your taxes. it's in their dna. ..that labour's plans would mean a £2,000 tax rise per working household. a figure arrived at, rishi sunak suggested, through independent treasury officials. this £2,000 you keep saying it's going to cost is absolute garbage. we won't go into the details of it. it became clearer that the supposed hike would be over four years as the tories stuck to a treasury based attack line. i've worked in the treasury and i can tell you that these are brilliant independent civil servants and they will not be putting anything dodgy in there. these are all policies that have been set up by the labour party. and actually, if anything, they are underestimating the cost to families. but look at this.

it's a letter from the treasury's top civil servant obtained exclusively by the bbc. it says the civil service wasn't involved in the production or presentation of the conservative party's tax claims, that the calculations go beyond what the treasury's provided and shouldn't be presented as having been produced by the civil service. well, as rishi sunak, who lied 12 times in the debate last night about labour's tax plans, the truth is, it's the conservatives that have taken the tax burden to the highest it's been in 70 years. that is the conservatives' record and their legacy. so what's going on here? well, the conservatives asked the treasury to cost policies they claim labour will pursue. those calculations have then been included in a tory party dossier to reach the £2,000 figure. so it's not a treasury number, it's an extrapolation that is soaked in the politics of this election. a cloudy picture, but rishi sunak

appears to be doubling down, releasing this video on social media. he may hope all you'll hear is scary numbers, but now doubt has been cast on the claim, he risks something else — public trust. jessica parker, bbc news in westminster. let's talk about that claim. what's going on? was that claim from rishi sunak in last night's debate that labour would put up household taxes by £2000 produced by the treasury? that is certainly what the conservative leader implied. here is what he actually said. first, let's explain

how that £2000 figure is generated. the tories have added up what they say are the net cost of labour public spending commitments over the next four years and have come to any curated sum of £38.5 billion. they have divided that figure by the number of households in the uk with one person working at least, 18 million and that produces the figure of £2000. but this morning a letter emerge from the chief civil servant at the treasury written on the 3rd ofjune which casts further doubt on the basis of that figure. it says the basis of that figure. it says the £38 billion figure used by the conservative party's publication conservative pa rty�*s publication uses conservative party's publication uses costs beyond those produced by the civil service and published online by hm treasury. any costings derived from other sources are produced by other organisations should not be presented as having been produced by the civil service. and finally, i have reminded ministers and advisers they should be the case. this is important, because the treasury is saying it did produce some costings of labour policies but it did not produce that

38 and have been pumping. that is because other figures have been used by the tories to get that overall total. therefore, the £2000 figure of supported rises under a future labour government, a figure which derives from the overall total cannot be attributed to the treasury. what happens if you take out the non—treasury costed elements of the tory dossier? did he verify it has calculated it is these items at the bottom, the green prosperity plan, fair pay agreement on social care and ukraine support, and they add up to £22 billion, a very large proportion of the extra labour spending claims by the conservatives. by the assumptions that into the costing of labour policies that the treasury produced was based on the sums given to them by a conservative appointed special advisers and so those assumptions are questionable. overall, we have a host of reasons to be dubious about this £2000 per household tax claim which though dominated the debate last night. let's talk now to the

shadow attorney for labour, emily thornbury. i will put it to you plainly, did the conservatives lie last night in that debate? ., ., , debate? the harmash light -- the prime minister _ debate? the harmash light -- the prime minister lied _ debate? the harmash light -- the prime minister lied about - debate? the harmash light -- the prime minister lied about tax - prime minister lied about tax increases under labour, he lied about the number of people coming overin about the number of people coming over in small boats, he claimed it was going down when it is going up. he claimed waiting lists were going down when actually they have gone up. i am afraid he demeans the role of prime minister. he has lied to the british public and it undermines faith in politics. we really cannot have this, and we are calling it out. it is kind of horrible to have to do it but that is where we are, and the british public deserve better than this. we really are trying to make sure that when we make promises to the british people, we have it fully costed so they know

if they make a choice to give us the honour of being the next government, that they know what it is we are going to be spending their money on, how much of it and how it will work. we will not be able to do everything overnight, it will take a long time to turn this ship around but we have been clear about our first steps and we are making some difficult choices about what our priorities are because we think there probably will because we think there probably will be very little money left after this lot have gone. be very little money left after this lot have gone-— lot have gone. you say you are callin: it lot have gone. you say you are calling it out — lot have gone. you say you are calling it out and _ lot have gone. you say you are calling it out and that - lot have gone. you say you are calling it out and that is - lot have gone. you say you are calling it out and that is what l lot have gone. you say you are i calling it out and that is what you are doing it right now, why did keir starmer take so long to clarify during the debate yesterday? labour was written to ten days —— two days ago, and yet it took keir starmer quite a while to refute that allegation.— quite a while to refute that alleuation. , , , , allegation. maybe it is because he is a human — allegation. maybe it is because he is a human being. _ allegation. maybe it is because he is a human being. maybe - allegation. maybe it is because he is a human being. maybe because| allegation. maybe it is because he i is a human being. maybe because he was asked a question by a woman who was asked a question by a woman who

was desperate, who was talking about having to do batch cooking, who couldn't afford to put her cooker on, who was having real problems making ends meet, and the minister had answered that with assorted lies. he had 45 seconds, and what is his priority? to talk with this woman or deal with the noise and nonsense coming from his left hand side. it is difficult to know, that was the choice he made, and i think is a human being he was right to talk directly to the woman who was having such difficulty is about what labour could do to help, and also to make it clear that given his background, he does understand. he comes from a family that had to have the telephone cut off because they couldn't afford the bills, he understands where people are coming from, and we want to do everything we can to help people with the cost of living crisis. whatever lies come from the government, to a certain extent, you have a choice. do you spend your time dealing with that?

we have the same issue when it comes to culture voice, they raise culture wars all the time trying to push us off course. we do need to be clear with the public what it is we stand for, so if they make the choice about us they know what it is they are getting. the about us they know what it is they are getting-— are getting. the reason i ask you about that, _ are getting. the reason i ask you about that, the _ are getting. the reason i ask you about that, the format _ are getting. the reason i ask you about that, the format will - are getting. the reason i ask you about that, the format will be i about that, the format will be subject to much debate about whether the 45 seconds for an answer was the right format to get to some of the meat of these issues, but at the same time, and most people would agree clarity and honesty is what is neededin agree clarity and honesty is what is needed in this election campaign, but at the end of the day, does it matter? what it has got people doing right now is talking about tax, and has a seat been planted now by the prime minister that labour will raise tax. regardless of the detail, that story is out there now. that is damaging to your campaign, isn't it? i think you need to ask the tories about that, if they are happy with the idea... pare about that, if they are happy with the idea- - -_ about that, if they are happy with the idea... are you worried a seat has been planted? _ the idea. .. are you worried a seat has been planted? whether- the idea... are you worried a seat has been planted? whether or i the idea... are you worried a seat|

has been planted? whether or not the idea... are you worried a seat i has been planted? whether or not it is accurate? it is has been planted? whether or not it is accurate?— is accurate? it is not accurate, it is accurate? it is not accurate, it is accurate? it is not accurate, it is a lie. is accurate? it is not accurate, it is a be we _ is accurate? it is not accurate, it is a lie. we have _ is accurate? it is not accurate, it is a lie. we have been _ is accurate? it is not accurate, it. is a lie. we have been completely clear about that. and whether he answered that instead of talking to the woman who was having difficulties, making ends meet, or whether he answered it ten minutes later, i watched it and kept thinking let him speak, let him speak, as it kept trying to address theissue speak, as it kept trying to address the issue of tax. she kept saying we will come to attack later, so it is difficult. —— will come to tax later. if he is not as practised as slick as rishi sunak was, that is one thing. but what really matters is what are his values, is he going to be trustworthy, does he lie? frankly anyone watching last night will know that just like frankly anyone watching last night will know thatjust like boris johnson lied, rishi sunak is quite happy to lie as well, and they should not trust them. fine happy to lie as well, and they should not trust them. one of the issues that _ should not trust them. one of the issues that was _ should not trust them. one of the issues that was evident _ should not trust them. one of the issues that was evident last - should not trust them. one of the | issues that was evident last night, and you touched on it briefly was

the financial fiscal position that the financial fiscal position that the country will find itself in, whoever is in number ten injuly. you said you will not raise taxes but tax cuts are not on their way under a labour government, because there are a lot to pay for are not a lot of money right now. find there are a lot to pay for are not a lot of money right now. and some difficult decisions _ lot of money right now. and some difficult decisions have _ lot of money right now. and some difficult decisions have had - lot of money right now. and some difficult decisions have had to - lot of money right now. and some difficult decisions have had to be i difficult decisions have had to be made. for example, people talk to me about child benefit for a third child, ortuition about child benefit for a third child, or tuition fees, we have had to make our decisions. it is an uncomfortable position to be in, but i tell you this. the choices we make are completely consistent with our labour values, which is that we want to increase the number of appointments that you can have the national health service. we have set where the money is coming for from that. we are going to increase the number of teachers, we have said where the money is coming from. we are helping to ensure there is more support for the many children with mental health problems. each thing, we say this is where we are going to

do and this is where the money is coming from, and quite often we are criticised for not being more ambitious, and i understand that, but the truth is, we have to make sure we have a stable economy, that we are spending with in our means and we have to go our economy. the plight of our policy that we don't hear about enough in my view, and we should be talking about more, is our policy is when it comes to transferring our economy or about the gb energy, greening the economy, making sure we turn our economy around. we may have been the first country that went to an industrial revolution, we need to make sure we go through a green industrial revolution, showing the way but helping to develop our economy. only when we do that will be be able to start having the sorts of money we need to have in order to invest in public services and give people the public services and give people the public services and give people the public services they deserve. goad public services they deserve. good to have you _ public services they deserve. good to have you with _ public services they deserve. good to have you with us _ public services they deserve. good to have you with us on _ public services they deserve. good to have you with us on the - public services they deserve. good to have you with us on the programme today.

let's speak to jonathan portes, professor of economics and public policy at king's college london and former chief economist at the cabinet office. good to have you with us. rishi sunak�*s claimed last night was a lie? sunak's claimed last night was a lie? . . sunak's claimed last night was a lie? , ., ., ., ., , ., lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects. — lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects. first _ lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects, first as _ lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects, first as it _ lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects, first as it was _ lie? yes, i am afraid it was. in two respects, first as it was explained, he included something that was not produced by the treasury at all, a second and probably more importantly, these figures, even the ones that are published on the government website, were not produced by independent civil servants. effectively what happens is the treasury's special advisers, conservative special advisers, tell treasury officials what assumptions to feed into their spreadsheets and the treasury just to feed into their spreadsheets and the treasuryjust runs them through the treasuryjust runs them through the spreadsheet. they are not really civil servant figures at all, the conservative party figures. the conservative _ conservative party figures. the conservative party figures. the conservative party today are standing by, the prime minister has

tweeted that number again twice, the party says they stand by that number. on what basis are they saying this is a correct, accurate and valid number.— saying this is a correct, accurate and valid number. they are claiming the are and valid number. they are claiming they are produced _ and valid number. they are claiming they are produced by _ and valid number. they are claiming they are produced by the _ and valid number. they are claiming they are produced by the treasury, l they are produced by the treasury, and it is true the spreadsheets are maintained by the treasury and published on the government website, but the way it works if i can give you an analogy, suppose that keir starmer says i think every british child should have a pony. that sounds like a spending problem. the conservative party then goes to the treasury and says cost that promise for us, and the treasury official will say we need to make a lot of assumptions, what assumptions should we make? any conservative special adviser will say assume that the new government sets up a great british p°ny government sets up a great british pony club, and provides ponies to every 5—16 year old, how much would

that cost? the treasury will make some stab at costing that. you can call that a treasury costing if you like but it is not really, it is not something you can say is produced by independent civil servants. when he said that, he was, i am afraid, lying. said that, he was, i am afraid, 1 int. ., , ., , said that, he was, i am afraid, lint. .,, ., said that, he was, i am afraid, lying. the conservatives are not alone in doing _ lying. the conservatives are not alone in doing this, _ lying. the conservatives are not alone in doing this, this - lying. the conservatives are not alone in doing this, this has - alone in doing this, this has happened time and time again before and in other election campaigns. we know we discuss number a lot, numbers can tell you whatever story you want them to tell you with the byte spin on them. but this is just a political strategy, isn't it? that is riuht. a political strategy, isn't it? that is right- this _ a political strategy, isn't it? that is right. this began _ a political strategy, isn't it? that is right. this began in _ a political strategy, isn't it? trust is right. this began in the 19805. i is right. this began in the 1980s. i was involved in a couple of episodes of costing myself, and i was involved in the conservative costings in the early 1990s. i think it has always been very dodgy, it was dodgy underjohn major, it was dodgy under gordon brown. i think it has got worse and worse over time,

and this is particularly egregious. rishi sunak has crossed whatever line was left to be crossed, and i hope my former boss and former cabinet secretary gus o'donnell said whoever is in charge of the next government, the treasury should simply say no, we cannot do this, we will not allow civil servants to be abused in that way. that is something that both parties have done and misused in the past, i thought what happened last night was particularly bad, but hopefully this is the last time. i particularly bad, but hopefully this is the last time.— is the last time. i picture emily thornberry _ is the last time. i picture emily thornberry about _ is the last time. i picture emily thornberry about whether - is the last time. i picture emily thornberry about whether all l is the last time. i picture emily| thornberry about whether all of is the last time. i picture emily - thornberry about whether all of this matters, because what the conservatives did successfully was planted the seed in the minds of voters that labour is a party that would raise taxes, and labour are clearly refuting those allegations today. the conservatives say they stand by those numbers. what it has done is plant that seed, and whether accurate or not, straightaway it has

got people talking about whether labour would raise taxes. to the electorate care about the detail in something like this? what does it do for a trust? ih something like this? what does it do for a trust? .., something like this? what does it do for a trust? , something like this? what does it do fora trust? , ., something like this? what does it do for a trust? ,., ._ , ., , for a trust? in some ways, that is robabl for a trust? in some ways, that is probably rrot _ for a trust? in some ways, that is probably rrot a — for a trust? in some ways, that is probably not a bad _ for a trust? in some ways, that is probably not a bad thing - for a trust? in some ways, that is probably not a bad thing because | probably not a bad thing because although this episode reflects disgracefully on rishi sunak and the conservatives, there is a broader point that i many others are making about the dishonesty of both parties and effectively saying we're not going to put taxes encase the conservatives cut them, and we are not going to cut public services, when almost all economists would say those numbers simply don't add up. regardless of the specific detail what labour or conservative actually either over the medium—term, some taxes will have to go up or we are the current state of public services, which is bad enough with the nhs, the courts and prisons and

so on, or make that even worse. the public are not stupid. they realise that actually if we public services over the medium term, we are going to have to pay to get both parties to have to pay to get both parties to level with the public about that, which is the bigger picture, i think that would actually be a good thing. really good to talk grateful for you being with us. thank you. you can watch nonstop coverage of the election campaign now until the results are called, for weeks and beyond that of the bbc iplayer. we have been following events in the election in india and were telling you that the landslide victory that was previously predicted for her

under modi did not transpire but we are getting a sense of the government there will look like. we are told and render mardi's party has agreed a coalition with allies and that has just been agreed and they will now form a government after the general election failed to secure an outright majority for his party. —— narendra modi. there will be a coalition go government that should bring stability after that election which the ruling party and narendra modi did not get that majority they were expecting, but outright majority. willis peter corresponded to get the very latest on that as soon as we have it. the king kicks off a week of d—day commemorations by meeting wartime veterans.

as a mass parachutejump from world war two era planes takes place over normandy. labour has accused the prime minister of lying over the course of its tax plans in last night's leaders debate on the conservatives are standing by their claims. dozens of d—day veterans have also crossed the channel, to be in normandy itself, for this 80th anniversary. they have a packed schedule. over the next couple of days there will be a series of major events in france. our correspondentjohn maguire has travelled with them, and this morning the veterans attended a special service of remembrance, close to sword beach, where they received a rapturous welcome. john maguire reports. some phrases don't need a translation. the veterans were

guests of honour this morning at a special commitment of service at what was known as sole beach on d—day. what was known as sole beach on d-da . �* ., d-day. and in the morning we will remember — d-day. and in the morning we will remember them. _ d-day. and in the morning we will remember them. i _ d-day. and in the morning we will remember them. i get _ d-day. and in the morning we will remember them. i get too - d-day. and in the morning we will. remember them. i get too emotional when i think of the lads that we left behind and i know i said before but people must also remember that they left behind, those that were married, their wives, their children perhaps, i do tend to get a bit overemotional about it. thea;r perhaps, i do tend to get a bit overemotional about it. they allow commander _ overemotional about it. they allow commander of— overemotional about it. they allow commander of the _ overemotional about it. they allow commander of the ground - overemotional about it. they allow commander of the ground forces . overemotional about it. they allow i commander of the ground forces that day was field marshal bernard montgomery. battle plans in hand, he looked over the service at the town that now bears his name. it’s a that now bears his name. it's a treat that now bears his name. it's a great honour— that now bears his name. it's a great honour to _ that now bears his name. it's a great honour to be _ that now bears his name. it's a great honour to be here, - that now bears his name. it's a great honour to be here, standing in front of— great honour to be here, standing in front of the — great honour to be here, standing in front of the statue of montgomery

and he _ front of the statue of montgomery and he was a brave man in his time and he was a brave man in his time and as— and he was a brave man in his time and as i_ and he was a brave man in his time and as i said. — and he was a brave man in his time and as i said, to be here with these hundreds— and as i said, to be here with these hundreds of— and as i said, to be here with these hundreds of people, is something not to be missed. and at my age, i am 99, i_ to be missed. and at my age, i am 99, ican't— to be missed. and at my age, i am 99, i can't afford to waste time. veterans. — 99, i can't afford to waste time. veterans, we owe you and your friends _ veterans, we owe you and your friends who — veterans, we owe you and your friends who did _ veterans, we owe you and your friends who did not _ veterans, we owe you and your friends who did not return - veterans, we owe you and your friends who did not return so i veterans, we owe you and your - friends who did not return so much. the service — friends who did not return so much. the service was— friends who did not return so much. the service was addressed - friends who did not return so much. the service was addressed by - friends who did not return so much. i the service was addressed by monte's grandson here with the spirit of normandy trust, the group that brings veterans back to northern france every year. it’s brings veterans back to northern france every year.— france every year. it's a special occasion and — france every year. it's a special occasion and the _ france every year. it's a special occasion and the french - france every year. it's a special occasion and the french and i france every year. it's a special- occasion and the french and people of normandy— occasion and the french and people of normandy give _ occasion and the french and people of normandy give us _ occasion and the french and people of normandy give us such - occasion and the french and people of normandy give us such an - of normandy give us such an incredible _ of normandy give us such an incredible welcome - of normandy give us such an incredible welcome and - of normandy give us such an incredible welcome and theyj of normandy give us such an - incredible welcome and they were the ones that— incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew— incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew what _ incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew what it _ incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew what it was _ incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew what it was to - incredible welcome and they were the ones that knew what it was to be - ones that knew what it was to be occupied, — ones that knew what it was to be occupied, what _ ones that knew what it was to be occupied, what the _ ones that knew what it was to be occupied, what the impact - ones that knew what it was to be occupied, what the impact on - ones that knew what it was to be i occupied, what the impact on their lives of— occupied, what the impact on their lives of occupation _ occupied, what the impact on their lives of occupation was _ occupied, what the impact on their lives of occupation was and - lives of occupation was and therefore. _ lives of occupation was and therefore, really _ lives of occupation was and | therefore, really appreciate lives of occupation was and - therefore, really appreciate the freedom — therefore, really appreciate the freedom that _ therefore, really appreciate the freedom that they— therefore, really appreciate the freedom that they have - therefore, really appreciate the i freedom that they have enjoyed. therefore, really appreciate the - freedom that they have enjoyed. long freedom that they have en'oyed. long live our freedom that they have en'oyed. long live noble — freedom that they have en'oyed. long live our noble king... _ freedom that they have enjoyed. live our noble king... stamina is incredible, they are determined to

see as many places, meet as many people as possible. last night, they were invited to a special reception by the mayor. were invited to a special reception by the mayor-— by the mayor. every year it's a treat by the mayor. every year it's a great service. _ by the mayor. every year it's a great service. they _ by the mayor. every year it's a great service. they are - by the mayor. every year it's a great service. they are very i by the mayor. every year it's a - great service. they are very happy to be here and sometimes their memories come back and you can see the emotion. they all tell the children that they have very vivid memories from what happened 80 years ago. memories from what happened 80 years a . o. , memories from what happened 80 years auo. , . memories from what happened 80 years ao. , ., , , memories from what happened 80 years auo. , . , , ., ~ ago. they are relishing every waking moment. ago. they are relishing every waking moment- as — ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one _ ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one veteran _ ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one veteran told - ago. they are relishing every waking moment. as one veteran told me, i ago. they are relishing every waking i moment. as one veteran told me, they feel it's their duty because they are the ones who were lucky enough to survive. john maguire, bbc news, normandy. let's go to our reporter victoria bourne, who's in normandy. what you know about the arrests can

you explain the wider context iam in i am in the seaside town here. this is one of the first french towns which was liberated by those d—day troops and it is not part of the official commemorations so the mood here is much less number. you might be able to hear behind me there are some 1940s music playing and there are lots of people who come here, they soak up the atmosphere, they were world war ii costumes and there are lots of vintage military vehicles. you might be able to see on the beach here that there are plenty of trucks and then there is also what was called a dot, and in previous truck which goes on the water back on the land. —— amphibious... i spoke to a brigadier and he told me about his special trip to normandy.— and he told me about his special trip to normandy. about a year ago, we borrowed — trip to normandy. about a year ago, we borrowed field _ trip to normandy. about a year ago, we borrowed field marshall - we borrowed field marshall montgomery's and rolls—royce to do

charity— montgomery's and rolls—royce to do charity runs _ montgomery's and rolls—royce to do charity runs at her fist were i bumped _ charity runs at her fist were i bumped into richard hammond, we got talking _ bumped into richard hammond, we got talking about the car, he and his team _ talking about the car, he and his team fell— talking about the car, he and his team fell in love with the car and we agreed — team fell in love with the car and we agreed that he would restore the car in _ we agreed that he would restore the car in time _ we agreed that he would restore the car in time for dd 80 so that we can bring _ car in time for dd 80 so that we can bring it— car in time for dd 80 so that we can bring it to _ car in time for dd 80 so that we can bring it to france and reunited with the veterans and the french people. what was _ the veterans and the french people. what was at like because this is not a insignificant vehicle? trio. what was at like because this is not a insignificant vehicle?— a insignificant vehicle? no, this was hand-picked _ a insignificant vehicle? no, this was hand-picked by _ a insignificant vehicle? no, this was hand-picked by winston i a insignificant vehicle? no, this - was hand-picked by winston churchill was hand—picked by winston churchill to be used _ was hand—picked by winston churchill to be used by field marshal montgomery as swiftly as possible after d—day so that you build confidence in the allied forces and .ave confidence in the allied forces and gave a _ confidence in the allied forces and gave a sense of victory and permanency to the french people as well as— permanency to the french people as well as our— permanency to the french people as well as our own troops. the car was brought— well as our own troops. the car was brought over — well as our own troops. the car was brought overjuno beach, three pay two days— brought overjuno beach, three pay two days past d—day 80 years of losses _ two days past d—day 80 years of losses as — two days past d—day 80 years of losses as special vehicle. what two days past d-day 80 years of losses as special vehicle. what was about to drive _ losses as special vehicle. what was about to drive it? _ losses as special vehicle. what was about to drive it? with _ losses as special vehicle. what was about to drive it? with these - about to drive it? with these vintage motors, they don't necessarily run smoothly. it’s necessarily run smoothly. it's manic, necessarily run smoothly. it's magic. she — necessarily run smoothly. it's magic, she runs _ necessarily run smoothly. it's magic, she runs like a dream as she runs like _ magic, she runs like a dream as she runs like a _ magic, she runs like a dream as she runs like a rolls—royce should and

because _ runs like a rolls—royce should and because of— runs like a rolls—royce should and because of her presence and what she stands _ because of her presence and what she stands for. _ because of her presence and what she stands for, it's quite emotional. even _ stands for, it's quite emotional. even if— stands for, it's quite emotional. even if people don't realise the history— even if people don't realise the history of— even if people don't realise the history of the car they are looking at, history of the car they are looking at. the _ history of the car they are looking at, the warm reception it receives, lon- at, the warm reception it receives, long before — at, the warm reception it receives, long before they might recognise richard _ long before they might recognise richard hammond in the driver seat or the _ richard hammond in the driver seat or the passenger seat, just gives a real sense — or the passenger seat, just gives a real sense ofjoy which is exactly what _ real sense ofjoy which is exactly what it _ real sense ofjoy which is exactly what it was meant to do when it was brought— what it was meant to do when it was brought to _ what it was meant to do when it was brought to france 80 years ago. talking — brought to france 80 years ago. talking with the 80th anniversary, this year feels particularly pertinent because it might be one of the last that many d—day veterans are here for. it the last that many d-day veterans are here for-— are here for. it is hugely important- _ are here for. it is hugely important. sadly, - are here for. it is hugely important. sadly, the i are here for. it is hugely i important. sadly, the great are here for. it is hugely - important. sadly, the great living veterans— important. sadly, the great living veterans are afraid dwindling in numbers— veterans are afraid dwindling in numbers and so it's really important that their— numbers and so it's really important that their legacy is understood and passed _ that their legacy is understood and passed on— that their legacy is understood and passed on to the younger generations so that— passed on to the younger generations so that the _ passed on to the younger generations so that the more we can spread the message _ so that the more we can spread the message of— so that the more we can spread the message of what it took, the vast enterprise — message of what it took, the vast enterprise and heroism to be able to achieve _ enterprise and heroism to be able to achieve victory here, the more

likely— achieve victory here, the more likely we — achieve victory here, the more likely we are to avoid the situation where _ likely we are to avoid the situation where it— likely we are to avoid the situation where it might happen again. so d-day_ where it might happen again. so may 80 — where it might happen again. so d—day 80 is all about legacy, as much _ d—day 80 is all about legacy, as much as— d—day 80 is all about legacy, as much as commemoration and a degree of celebration as well. the brigadier _ of celebration as well. the brigadier talks _ of celebration as well. tue: brigadier talks about of celebration as well. tts: brigadier talks about the of celebration as well. tt2 brigadier talks about the legacy and celebration and a bit earlier on overlooking the beach there was acquire of more than 100 choristers. they were from the local french area and they were really striking and wearing white with big red scarves are what i couldn't understand what they were singing because my french unfortunately is not quite up to it i was reliably informed by a french woman of the crown that they were singing about the liberty of this region. that is the legacy that the d—day troops will leave behind and the people here are really grateful. on the streets there are masks and we have portraits of the veterans who took part in the normandy campaign. this town is very keen to

remember the role they played. another notable fact about here is the mulberry harbour is here. this was meant to be a temporaryjetty put out at sea you can still see the concrete blocks and these were particularly significant because they had the allied forces bring extra material in and support their campaign of normandy. earlier on this afternoon there was a parachute jump this afternoon there was a parachute jump in an area close by were hundreds took part. there were 300 members of british, belgian, canadian and us military who took part in thejump. it was in a designated drop zone on the 6th of june 191m and a parachutejump designated drop zone on the 6th of june 191m and a parachute jump was to commemorate the role of the airborne forces during the normandy landings. there is much more to expect here, there's going to be more official events where we are expecting members of the royal family to attend today and tomorrow, but here, there are going to be some

recreations were commandos from the 47 marine force will be retracing the steps of their predecessors and there will be a small ceremony in there will be a small ceremony in the town to remember what happened here back on d—day. the town to remember what happened here back on d-day._ here back on d-day. victoria, thank ou ve here back on d-day. victoria, thank you very much. _ here back on d-day. victoria, thank you very much, victoria _ here back on d-day. victoria, thank you very much, victoria born - here back on d-day. victoria, thank you very much, victoria born alive l you very much, victoria born alive in normandy. the post office inquiry continues in earnest today with the former chair, alice perkins giving evidence. she was made chair when the post office split from royal mail in 2011 at the height of the horizon scandal. let's speak to our correspondent, azadeh moshiri. what did we learn today? as you mentioned. _ what did we learn today? as you mentioned, alice _ what did we learn today? as you mentioned, alice perkins - what did we learn today? as you mentioned, alice perkins was i what did we learn today? as you i mentioned, alice perkins was chair between 2011 and 2015 and much of that time overlapped with paula venables, the former chief executives and what some postmasters have told me time and time again is they don't want a single person

scapegoated over the scandal and that's why every phase of this inquiry and every witness is so important to them and today it's a very high—profile one and that's because the chair was when, not only business priorities were facing a particularly challenging time, you mentioned the split from royal mail, but also issues with the horizon it system were mounting and that's why she has been facing questions about this alleged cover—up and the biggest moment of the day was when the inquiry sought handwritten note of hers from 2011 weeks into herjob and it was summarising a meeting and advice she received from independent auditors and this is how that were summarised about that meeting told her. she was told by this partner that the horizon system is a real risk to the post office, the ultimate question whether horizon

captures data accurately and talked about how fraud suspects suggest it is a systems problem. here are some of that exchange. ts is a systems problem. here are some of that exchange.— of that exchange. is that the case that ou of that exchange. is that the case that you know _ of that exchange. is that the case that you know that _ of that exchange. is that the case that you know that this _ of that exchange. is that the case that you know that this is - of that exchange. is that the case that you know that this is deeply | that you know that this is deeply problematic for you because you did nothing _ problematic for you because you did nothing with the information given to you? _ nothing with the information given to you? as — nothing with the information given to ou? m nothing with the information given to ou? a , to you? as soon as i saw this i realised that _ to you? as soon as i saw this i realised that this _ to you? as soon as i saw this i realised that this was - to you? as soon as i saw this i realised that this was very - realised that this was very different— realised that this was very different to _ realised that this was very different to me _ realised that this was very different to me today - realised that this was veryl different to me today when realised that this was very _ different to me today when compared to how _ different to me today when compared to how it _ different to me today when compared to how it looked _ different to me today when compared to how it looked to _ different to me today when compared to how it looked to me at _ different to me today when compared to how it looked to me at the - different to me today when compared to how it looked to me at the time. i to how it looked to me at the time. remember, — to how it looked to me at the time. remember, this _ to how it looked to me at the time. remember, this is _ to how it looked to me at the time. remember, this is key— to how it looked to me at the time. remember, this is key to— to how it looked to me at the time. remember, this is key to the - to how it looked to me at the time. i remember, this is key to the scandal and we are learning thatjust weeks into herjob, alice perkins was made aware of problems with the it system. as far as she is concerned, she says she was having to deal with so much information when she joined that she didn't make the connections then. she said simply i am human, i

didn't see it. then. she said simply i am human, i didn't see it— wales' first minister, vaughan gething, could lose a vote of no—confidence this evening because two of his party's members are off sick. he's facing questions about a donation he received from a millionaire who had been convicted of illegally dumping waste. vikki howells, who chairs the welsh labour group, told the bbc that mr gething would not resign if he lost this evening's vote. our correspondent, tomos morgan, reports from the senedd. back in march, it was all smiles when vaughan gething became welsh labour leader and the first minister of wales. but during the campaign and ever since, the pressure has continued on him around the £200,000 donation given towards his leadership fight from a company run by this man, david neal, who has twice been convicted of environmental offences. on monday it emerged that another of mr neal's companies, resources management ltd, was linked to a criminal investigation at the

time of the donation. and yesterday, the issue was raised by both opposition party leaders at first minister's questions. there's a vote of confidence in you tomorrow here, first minister. are you going to win? again, i go back to reminding the member that on all occasions i've answered truthfully and honestly about what happened, the due diligence that was necessary and indeed the fact that no rules have been broken. with the senedd evenly split between the opposition and his party, the first minister needs the whole labour group to back him. however, two labour mss are off sick. it's possible for senedd members to vote remotely as the welsh parliament operates on a hybrid basis, but it's unclear whether these two will be able to vote remotely. if the result does go against the first minister, it's non—binding, meaning he wouldn't have to stand down and mr gething has already said he wouldn't resign if he loses, but it would put him in a difficult position, especially during a uk general election campaign. mr gething maintains he's not broken any rules and didn't know anything

about the criminal investigation until it was reported by the bbc. let's ta ke let's take you to the latest on the indian elections. a deal has been done to form a coalition in india, a coalition that will govern india. desk at the very latest in delhi. what do we know about this alliance and coalition and wash it will take? taste this alliance and coalition and wash it will take?— it will take? we have 'ust got the very latest — it will take? we have 'ust got the very latest from h it will take? we have 'ust got the very latest from the _ it will take? we have just got the very latest from the meetings i it will take? we have just got the l very latest from the meetings that were taking place in both camps, one was the bjp alliance and another one that was happening of the opposition of india alliance. from the bjp alliance were members of the alliance were members of the alliance have passed a resolution

unanimously electing narendra modi as the prime minister and head of the alliance and it's clear that the alliance members of, within this grouping, are very much elected narendra modi as the leader so he will be seeking support of the alliance members. he said this is a mandate, a historic mandate for the nba alliance and this is the result of the policies of the last ten years that have been carried out by the nba government. on the other hand, the update coming in from the opposition alliance is they have said in a statement that the verdict of the people by way of results that we got is against prime minister narendra modi simply because the bjp and its own failed to cross the halfway figure of 272. the fact they have only got 240 seats is also message that have rejected the policies of narendra modi and the

bjp so that is one part of the statement and the second part of the statement and the second part of the statement for the opposition alliance is that they have said they are inviting all parties, which have similar views on the fundamental principles of the opposition stands for, to come together. it's an open invitation in the sense to other possible allies could come to them which would help give them the numbers but given the current political scenario it's unlikely the opposition would be able to gobble up opposition would be able to gobble up any more numbers and the statement i've told you coming in from the ruling alliance seems to suggest that that prime minister narendra modi will form the next government with his allies. fiend narendra modi will form the next government with his allies. and this is not the position _ government with his allies. and this is not the position narendra - government with his allies. and this is not the position narendra modi i is not the position narendra modi wanted to be in or expected to find himself in. and it raises questions about his ability to push through some reforms, particularly economic, that were planned and were in his manifesto. explain what may prove to be more difficult now given its an alliance and not a majority.

absolutely. in 2014, the bjp at 282 season in 2019 the head 303 and they did not have to rely on any alliance partners but then the picture is different now with only 240 so they are well short of the halfway figure of 272 which means there will be a lot of consensus required because india is back to a coalition politics so parties will have to get together and whenever there is reform a policy that needs to be pushed through parliament they will have to sit together and bring all views together, emerge consensus and then move ahead which is something then move ahead which is something the bjp hasn't had to do in ten years and stopping the opposition has protested from time to time because the government had an absolute majority and so significantly, what is also important is narendra modi, as a politician, in his 25 year long career as a chief minister first and then as prime minister of the country for the last ten years, he

has always headed an absolute majority government. he has never headed a coalition government so this is going to be a first, which is why it is all the more significant to understand how an injury modi, the politician, figures out this new territory and something he has never had to deal with, never had to think twice about what policy needs to be pushed through, he has always been, in a sense, the final word. . .. always been, in a sense, the final word. ., ,, i. ., always been, in a sense, the final word. ., ,, ., ., ,, ., word. thank you for that i know you will keep us — word. thank you for that i know you will keep us updated _ word. thank you for that i know you will keep us updated with thank- word. thank you for that i know you will keep us updated with thank you for now. joining us flight from delhi. the american woman amanda knox, who was convicted and then cleared of murdering her british roommate — has been sentenced to three years in prison for slander in a retrial. ms knox has been convicted of falsely implicating a man in the murder of meredith kercher in italy, 17 years ago. despite today's sentencing, ms knox will not go to prison for the conviction as she has already served four years for murder, before being aquitted. here is our reporter

in rome, davide ghiglione. it's very complicated, even for lawyers. the whole legal saga for amanda knox started in 2000 and seven when a british student meredith kercher was murdered. meredith kercher was murdered. meredith was amanda's flatmate in central italy where they were both studying italian. initially amanda knox was accused of murder, she was found guilty and then she was acquitted and then she was found guilty again and finally in 2015 she was acquitted of all murder charges. however, this trial was about a different thing so she was basically accused of accusing another man of the merger who was not involved when she was interrogated by italian

police four days after the murder. she wrote the name of this man on a piece of paper and she gave it to the police. now, today, during the trial, she ran a statement where she described the moment and said that she was really scared and she described the night as one of the most scary and worrying and the worst of her entire life. and she basically suggested that italian police pushed her to name the man who was falsely accused and was imprisoned for two weeks. she was found guilty of that essentially so it's all very complicated because the trial started in perugia and then to the's top court said that then to the's top court said that

the investigation had not been done properly by local authorities there so it was moved to florence, which is a bigger tribunal and now this so amanda knox's lawyers came out of the court and said they were very disappointed because they were hoping to clear her name once and for all but obviously her statement did not convince the judges today. joining us from rome. just over a year since his coronation and the king now appears on our notes, coins have already been out for a little while. but unless you're very lucky, it may be a little while until you get your hands on some of them. in the meantime, some 4.7 billion of the more familiar notes featuring the late queen will continue to be legal tender. and as nice as the new notes are, it comes at a time when we're using less cash in general, as kevin peachey reports. cash may no longer be king. but finally, the king is on our cash.

printed months ago, preparations are complete for these banknotes to enter circulation from today. and if it's your portrait on them... i wondered how it would come out. ..you'll be curious about how they look. these are the first issues. the rest will be introduced steadily. we are only printing enough to replace worn out notes and to be helping you demand. but cash centres up helping you demand. but cash centres up and down the country have new nodein up and down the country have new node in and so they should start to be seen nationwide as of today but only the next few weeks and then people will start seeing them come into their wallets. but while the king's now appearing on notes and coins, is cash disappearing from our lives? here in the harbour town of looe in cornwall, a county with rich links to the monarch and where the ferry only takes cash, they've witnessed a sea change. well, i can tell you that because i'm the local window cleaner. so most people pay straight into the bank account,

the company bank account. you see people pay with their phones these days. i don't do that. usually card or my phone, to be honest. it's just... i've just got so used to it. yeah, everywhere you go, it's got card readers. - even the toilet down there, . they're preparing to put a little card reader for 20p. surveys suggest most people still rely to some extent on cash, but with fewer banks around, its getting harder to find. with more than 6,000 branches across the uk having closed in the last nine years, hundreds of places like this have been left with none at all. and for those who want or need banking services and cash, one possible alternative stands right here. behind a cafe and heritage centre underneath an award winning restaurant... through this magic door... ..and next to a disused climbing wall, there's a new hub. premises shared by the major banks and run by the post office. so they can come and take money out. they can come and put money in.

they can deposit cheques. they can... we do change giving for businesses. people come and pay their bills. you can top up your gas and electric, with a friendly service and a smile. the cafe manager says the hub — one of 50 around the country — is a lifeline. obviously for all the businesses in the town, they need to use it, you know, because if they don't, you know that old saying, "if you don't use it, you're going to lose it." so whether or not you think cash still counts, it will be with us with a new look for a while yet. kevin peachey, bbc news. now it's time for a look at the weather. hello. we haven't had many days recently when temperatures have been below

the seasonal average, but that is the situation across most parts of the uk today. and while we have seen some spells of sunshine, we've also seen quite a few showers, especially across northern areas though showers feeding in on what is quite a cool northwesterly wind. feeding in on what is quite the showers have even brought something wintry over the highest ground in scotland, over the tops of the highest mountains, some thunder, some lightning mixing in with those showers blowing in on that brisk west or northwesterly winds. further south, though, not as many showers and with strong sunshine at this time of year, 17 degrees while a touch below par still doesn't feel too bad. tonight, a zone of cloud, maybe some showery rain pushing eastwards across england and wales. further north, where we hold on to clearer skies, it will again be quite a cold night for the time of year. some spots in the north of england and in scotland may get quite close to freezing tomorrow. this zone of cloud and the odd shower pushing across central and south eastern parts of england. and then we're back to sunshine and showers. the showers most plentiful across northern areas. the odd heavy one, the odd thundery one still quite windy here, just ten degrees for lerwick

and around 17 degrees in london and in plymouth. now as we head into friday, this area of low pressure still swirling to the north of the uk looks set to throw this frontal system southwards that will bring a band of rain southwards across scotland, getting into northern ireland, far north of england, breaking up into showers, further showers following on behind and then further south, more, more in the way of cloud. at this stage, again, the odd shower, a few brighter glimpses. temperatures may be nudging upwards a little bit, 19 degrees there for london, 14 in aberdeen. and it's our area of low pressure that will, i think, win out for the weekend. high pressure trying to build from the west, but not having a huge amount of success. it does mean that where you're closest to that high across the south and the west of the uk, there will be fewer showers, more sunshine, whereas further north and east towards the centre of that area of low pressure, we will see frequent showers and it will still be quite breezy and if anything on the cool side for the time of year, very similar weather on sunday.

still rather cool. some showers particularly in the north, drier weather further south.

live from london. this is bbc news. two days of events to mark the 80th anniversary of the d—day landings have begun in portsmouth. attended by veterans and the king and queen. in normandy parachutes have staged a spectacular recreation of the airborne assault that

accompanied the beach landings. t am accompanied the beach landings. i am on the beach — accompanied the beach landings. t —n on the beach where people are gathering ahead of the 80th anniversary tomorrow. labour has accused the prime minister of lying in the leaders debate last night, when he claimed the tax plans would cost households £2000. the conservatives are standing by the figure. campaigning continues across the country — we'll focus on two battleground constituencies. hello, i'm ben thompson. the king and queen, and the prince of wales, have joined second world war veterans at an event in portsmouth to mark this week's 80th anniversary of d—day. the normandy landings were the largest seaborne invasion in history, with the 1944 battle laying the foundation for an allied victory. the special ceremony was narrated by dame helen mirren — and included a fly—past by the red arrows.

on the french side of the channel a spectacular recreation has been taking place — of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings. our correspondent frank gardner reports. war planes from another time. memories from 80 years ago. today, a chance to honour those men and women who took part in d—day, the operation that helped end the second world war. service chiefs, prime ministers past and present, the royalfamily and of course, the veterans. roy haywood was 19 on that day, a trooper in the sherwood rangers. i landed in on the evening of d—day, and three weeks later i was so badly damaged that they had to amputate both my legs below the knee. i returned home eventually, and i have to say that i always

considered myself one of the lucky ones that survived because so many of us didn't. this was the largest ever amphibious invasion in human history, over150,000 british, us, canadian and french troops landing on normandy's beaches under withering fire from german defenses. let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honor those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for. honoring america. the us participation in the d—day landings was key. over one and a half million americans crossed the atlantic to help save europe from nazi occupation.

eric bateman, a royal navy veteran, is here today with his great granddaughters. we were with the american fleet on the way to utah beach where there were ships, as far as you could see. we want to thank our great grandfather and all the veterans of d—day and the normandy landings. without them, we would not - have the freedom we enjoy today. we will never forget. thank you. amid musical tributes from the band of the royal marines, a message to the troops that day in 1944 from general montgomery read by the prime minister. the time has come to deal the enemy a terrific blow in western europe. the blow will be struck by the combined sea, land and air forces of the allies.

forces of the allies. perhaps the most immortal words of this historic event were introduced today by the actor dame helen mirren. this mission for freedom was breathtaking in scale and overwhelming in complexity. quite simply, the future of the world was at stake. we shall fight on the beaches. we still fight on the landing grounds. we shall fight in the fields and in the streets. we shall fight in the hills. we shall never surrender. frank gardener, bbc news. those events in portsmouth were devised in part to educate and inspire by passing on the stories of those involved to the young people today. our correspondent danjohnson has been speaking to some of the veterans and schoolchildren marking the anniversary in portsmouth.

today is about polished pride and shining service medals, of national praise, remembrance and the dwindling chance to hear of history from those who fought for it. i was a corporal on the royal marines. on d—day, we fired the first shot on d—day. on the battleship, yes, the very first shot. on d—day we were in a group and we were making sure no german submarines got out to do damage. which was ourjob to do. and you were successful. and we were successful. it's emotional. i lost a lot of good friends. are you here today for them? yes, yes. do you still think of them? yeah.

and not only those who stormed normandy's beaches. sybil was a wren in a signal station. we all did our bit. if we didn't fit in our slot, things wouldn't have worked out, would they? we were a good team. this is my great grandad edwin, he was a part of the 48 royal marine commandos, he landed onjuno beach with the canadians and there were 300 royal marine commandos landing. only 115 survived. portsmouth's naval history runs deep and the grammar school's connections are personal. this is my great grandma stella, she was a wren during world war ii and d—day. we are lucky to be around today, since there are people who fought in world war ii who are still around and we can talk to them about their experiences. it is an amazing day and we have

to celebrate it and make sure . those veterans know - they were incredibly brave. this new generation of service cadets carries forward the legacy of d—day. a lot of veterans do not talk about it for many, many years after it happened and even now it is really tough for them, because not many people want to hear about the horrible things they must have experienced. i am really proud to be part of the event, it is a huge honour and i am really excited to see it especially because it is the 80th one. it is really important we remember it and do not forget. schoolkids are here in force, making the most of the direct links to d—day. for these men and women, all around 100 now, fought to change the course of the war and shaped our world thereafter. danjohnson, bbc news, portsmouth. let's ta ke let's take you to normandy and speak

to our reporter. where you are, there is a sense of celebration, about celebrating those achievements 80 years ago. that about celebrating those achievements 80 years ago-— 80 years ago. that is right, i am in one of the — 80 years ago. that is right, i am in one of the first _ 80 years ago. that is right, i am in one of the first towns _ 80 years ago. that is right, i am in one of the first towns to _ 80 years ago. that is right, i am in one of the first towns to be - one of the first towns to be liberated by the british troops on d—day, it is a celebration of the success of that liberation. the atmosphere here is much less sombre than the official events of remembrance. there is of the 1940s music playing here, people come here and get dressed up in world war ii costumes, and the beach is a hive of activity. there are dozens of military vehicles, you can probably see there are jeeps behind me, military vehicles, you can probably see there arejeeps behind me, there are also amphibious vehicles which go into the water and come back onto the land. throughout the day, there have been not an official fly—past, but vintage aeroplanes flying

overhead, and the crowds are in all of these vintage aircraft and vehicles. they are really enjoying soaking up the atmosphere and trying to have a piece of that themselves, by getting dressed up and remembering what happened. the mood here is much less sombre, today, this afternoon, there were more than 300 members of the british belgian canadian and us military, who took part in a parachute display. this was a designated drop back in 1944, and the idea of this was to commemorate the role of the airborne forces during the normandy landings. we know that is the us presidentjoe biden has arrived in france. he is here to pay respect to the role of the american troops played, and tomorrow, along with the french president emmanuel macron, king charles, the canadian prime minister

justin trudeau, as well as others, will attend a ceremony to remember the heroism of the allied troops. thank you, i know you will keep us updated on events there in normandy. grateful for that update. we updated on events there in normandy. gratefulfor that update. we now have continuing coverage of events on both sides of the channel. let's bring you up—to—date with all the election news. the conservatives have defended a key accusation about labour's tax plans — which rishi sunak used repeatedly against sir keir starmer — in last night's first televised election debate. it comes after a letter from the most senior treasury civil servant said the claim — that labour policies would amount to a £2,000 tax rise on households — should not be presented as having been costed by the independent civil service. labour said the figure was "a lie", but this afternoon the tories insisted they stood by their claim. this report from our political

correspondentjessica parker. it was the first live tv showdown of this election between the two men who could be your next prime minister. the nhs, the cost of living and tax took centre stage, including a repeated conservative claim... mark my words, labour will raise your taxes. it's in their dna. ..that labour's plans would mean a £2,000 tax rise per working household. a figure arrived at, rishi sunak suggested, through independent treasury officials. this £2,000 you keep saying it's going to cost is absolute garbage. we won't go into the details of it. it became clearer that the supposed hike would be over four years as the tories stuck to a treasury based attack line. i've worked in the treasury and i can tell you that these are brilliant independent civil servants and they will not be putting anything dodgy in there. these are all policies that have been set up by the labour party. and actually, if anything, they are underestimating the cost to families. but look at this.

it's a letter from the treasury's top civil servant obtained exclusively by the bbc. it says the civil service wasn't involved in the production or presentation of the conservative party's tax claims, that the calculations go beyond what the treasury's provided and shouldn't be presented as having been produced by the civil service. well, as rishi sunak, who lied 12 times in the debate last night about labour's tax plans, the truth is, it's the conservatives that have taken the tax burden to the highest it's been in 70 years. that is the conservatives' record and their legacy. so what's going on here? well, the conservatives asked the treasury to cost policies they claim labour will pursue. those calculations have then been included in a tory party dossier to reach the £2,000 figure. so it's not a treasury number, it's an extrapolation that is soaked in the politics of this election. a cloudy picture, but rishi sunak

appears to be doubling down, releasing this video on social media. he may hope all you'll hear is scary numbers, but now doubt has been cast on the claim, he risks something else — public trust. jessica parker, bbc news in westminster. we will talk about that issue of trust in a little while, but let's talk first to the chief economic adviser at the centre for economic and business research. good to have you with us. let's talk about how this number was put together, jess explaining in that piece it was an extrapolation, not a figure provided by the civil service. the civil service said they were not involved, keir starmer saying it is garbage and yet the tories say they stand by it. it is right? and yet the tories say they stand by it- it is right?— it. it is right? what tends to ha en it. it is right? what tends to happen is — it. it is right? what tends to happen is the _ it. it is right? what tends to happen is the treasury - it. it is right? what tends to happen is the treasury is i it. it is right? what tends to i happen is the treasury is asked it. it is right? what tends to - happen is the treasury is asked to add up various propositions which

are given to it by the government before an election, so they got a number of data given to them in terms of what may be part of the labour manifesto, some are well known and some that perhaps haven't actually been announced at all by labour, but were given to the treasury or at least had been calculated in terms of what measures might be special advisers, and then all of this adds up, and the figure perhaps comes out, but this is not meant to be a definitive figure which can be used for political purposes and the treasury has made that very clear. a lot of the assumptions have gone in and seemed not to be part of what the labour policies are, and that is why it is disputed. plus of course treasury officials are not independent and there has been a huge discussion taking place right now in the sense that they have to do what they are asked to do, they may be given

independent advice, but they do what they are asked to do, whereas what should really be happening is outside the think tanks, they should be cut deleted on —— they should be involved in calculating the impact of the different manifestos. of course we don't have the actual manifest as yet, so confusion on the whole process. manifest as yet, so confusion on the whole process-— whole process. there is some criticism on — whole process. there is some criticism on keir _ whole process. there is some criticism on keir starmer - whole process. there is some criticism on keir starmer for l whole process. there is some i criticism on keir starmer for not criticism on keir starmerfor not refuting those allegations earlier in the debate, because we heard the prime minister stating 12 times in that debate that labour would raise taxes. we note they had that letter from the civil service two days before, why would he not have brought that up earlier? tt is brought that up earlier? it is really interesting _ brought that up earlier? tt 3 really interesting because the figures were out there since may, so we have had those for certainly a couple of weeks, from the middle of may onwards, and i think at the time, they were rebuffed and we had x senior civil servants commenting on it and saying those figures cannot be taken seriously. it would

have expected it indeed, there would have expected it indeed, there would have been preparation for that, perhaps took keir starmer by surprise. the figures were certainly not what labour had been intended to put forward, plus there was the confusion about the process, but also the way it was stated last night, it was £2000 per household. it wasn't clear that it was over a period of four years, which would suggest £500. even so, he let rishi sunak mentioned this figure many times, and therefore raise the issue of whether he was telling the truth or not. . . . . of whether he was telling the truth or not. ., , ., , ., ._ or not. plants that seed and it may come down — or not. plants that seed and it may come down to _ or not. plants that seed and it may come down to a _ or not. plants that seed and it may come down to a discussion - come down to a discussion or debate about whether that seed is planted and that becomes a problem for labour, or whether it is one of trust and honesty for the

conservatives. talk to me about the bigger picture, if you will, because ultimately the uk's finances are at a pretty delicate position. there are some decisions that will need to be made by whoever is in downing street injuly, last night of course both parties committing to not raising income tax or vat, but the money has to come from somewhere, labour are laying out their plans for how they would pay for things, what do we know about the state of our finances right now, what do we know about the state of ourfinances right now, and what do we know about the state of our finances right now, and those decisions that will need to be made? what we know is there not is a huge amount of headroom if you are following the fiscal rules and both parties are committed to keeping to those. it is a rolling average, so you could do a lot more in the short term as long as the markets believe you are about to get to that point by the end of five years, and get reviewed and revised every year, it is not really a target or a constraint itself, but it is more

the optics of what it is you are promising you are going to be doing the public finance, in other words being prudent and being in control, but in reality we know a lot of the money that is not pledged to be spent right now, so in other words our public services is going to have to be found somewhere, and a lot of what we have seen so far in terms of taxes by labour do not necessarily address the need for those services, to receive a lot of extra money, including defence. it is a big gap, this is why the office of budgetary responsibility has described the spending figures which were put forward in the budget as a fiction. they need to be resolved and we need to get a lot more evidence of what actually will be happening before we can assess whether the money will be found for the things that the government, orwhichever found for the things that the government, or whichever it is, wants to do, and it is entirely possible taxes will be going up at some point, more than perhaps is

envisioned. taste some point, more than perhaps is envisioned-— some point, more than perhaps is envisioned. ~ ., envisioned. we may get some more detail perhaps _ envisioned. we may get some more detail perhaps and _ envisioned. we may get some more detail perhaps and manifestos - envisioned. we may get some more detail perhaps and manifestos in i detail perhaps and manifestos in this manifestos money are finally published. we will watch closely. good to have you with us. let's talk to the spokesperson for treasury and business, and industrial strategy for the liberal democrats. good to have you with us. we will talk about what the liberal democrats are announcing today in just a second, but i want to talk about this rout that has unfolded since that debate last night between keir starmer and rishi sunak. the liberal democrats sitting there saying fight it out, we are not involved in this. good afternoon. _ we are not involved in this. good afternoon. a _ we are not involved in this. good afternoon, a little _ we are not involved in this. good afternoon, a little bit. _ we are not involved in this. (13222 afternoon, a little bit. obviously ed davey wasn't involved in the debate last night, i think he should have been. we have got lots to say as a party, we are attracting support from constituencies up and down the country and some constituencies we are the main challenger to the tories and i think people in those constituencies want to hear from people in those constituencies want to hearfrom us. he did an interview

shortly after the debate, a one—on—one interview and i have heard from so many people today saying he came across so well, and it was a good he got an opportunity to talk about what motivates him as a politician. and people have responded well to that. i mean, when it comes down to this row about the tax spending, it is just a further example of the conservatives being really deceptive about their tax plans, we have seen this throughout the parliament, they keep talking about how they are giving people a tax break or a tax cut, but we know when you compare the cuts in ni compared to the extra tax people are paying, it is a drop in the ocean. this isjust the paying, it is a drop in the ocean. this is just the latest in a long line of misrepresentations by the tories on tax. t line of misrepresentations by the tories on tax.— line of misrepresentations by the tories on tax. i wonder if there is a bi aer tories on tax. i wonder if there is a bigger issue — tories on tax. i wonder if there is a bigger issue about _ tories on tax. i wonder if there is a bigger issue about trust - tories on tax. i wonder if there is a bigger issue about trust in - a bigger issue about trust in politics and whether actually the most damaging thing that could come out of last night is whether people simply say they are all lying and as bad as each other, i don't believe

any of them, and honesty doesn't figure very highly in this campaign. it is very important everyone is clear and honest about what their offer to voters is, and it seems right now that is not what was on display last night. t right now that is not what was on display last night.— display last night. i would agree with that, i _ display last night. i would agree with that, i think— display last night. i would agree with that, i think it _ display last night. i would agree with that, i think it is _ display last night. i would agree with that, i think it is really - with that, i think it is really important that voters get to understand what all the different parties are putting forward. we have put forward to a lot of different policies throughout this campaign, we will be releasing a manifesto shortly, we have a fully costed manifesto. it is going to be ambitious and optimistic, and i really want voters to be able to look at that and say, yes, the liberal democrats have got some ideas. some of the things i care about, i know from speaking to people on the doorstep, it is the nhs and cost of living, sewage and our rivers and crime, and i want people to look at our manifesto and say they have got some answers there. it was not able to put that

across in the debate last night, but we want to take advantage of as many opportunities as possible to tell people what we are about. tithe opportunities as possible to tell people what we are about. one of the thins is a people what we are about. one of the things is a commitment _ people what we are about. one of the things is a commitment to _ people what we are about. one of the things is a commitment to freeze - things is a commitment to freeze rail fares. things is a commitment to freeze railfares. you also propose things is a commitment to freeze rail fares. you also propose this things is a commitment to freeze railfares. you also propose this in 2019, what makes this one difference? tt 2019, what makes this one difference?— 2019, what makes this one difference? , , ., difference? it is facing the planned increase in rail— difference? it is facing the planned increase in rail fares _ difference? it is facing the planned increase in rail fares and _ difference? it is facing the planned increase in rail fares and the - increase in rail fares and the inflation increase in regulated rail fares for a year, and the reason we want to do that is because we see a custom many aspects, people are really seeing expenses pile up as a result of the cost of living increase and the big inflationary increases to rail fares over the last two years have hit hard on working households right across the country, but we see it in london and the south—east in particular. we are seeing a one—year freeze could help to save people money, so the cost of an annual season ticket from manchester to london, you could say

£200 on that, hundred and £80 on a commute from tunbridge wells. we will see right across commuter towns in the south—east, places like woking, there are real savings to be made and we think that is something to help ease the cost of living pressure for some of those households. tt pressure for some of those households.— pressure for some of those households. ., ., ,., , households. it would also be quite aood for households. it would also be quite good for your— households. it would also be quite good for your leader, _ households. it would also be quite good for your leader, ed _ households. it would also be quite good for your leader, ed davey, i good for your leader, ed davey, fined for speeding, cut speeding at 70 mph in a 60 mph zone. he might be gratefulfor 70 mph in a 60 mph zone. he might be grateful for cheaper rail fares. th grateful for cheaper rail fares. t'i other places across london and grateful for cheaper rail fares. t�*t other places across london and the south—east, lots of people are looking to make savings. ed has apologised for that i paid the fine. there is a larger point there if you like, and it is about investment in public transport. what we need to see is a functioning mail system and the conservatives have failed on this, we really do need to see

investment going into our rail network. we want to see a guiding body that can really overlook the kind of rail system in this country, that can simplify ticketing, that can make sure it is a service that is working for people, and that is something the conservatives have failed to deliver.— failed to deliver. really good to talk to you. _ failed to deliver. really good to talk to you, thank _ failed to deliver. really good to talk to you, thank you - failed to deliver. really good to talk to you, thank you for - failed to deliver. really good to talk to you, thank you for being with us. just a line of breaking news to bring you, it relates to those scenes we saw yesterday at the launch of nigel for raj�*s campaign. he was hit with a substance that we think was a milkshake. a 25—year—old charged with assault by beating and criminal damage, after she threw that milkshake after she —— at nigel farage, as you was launching his campaign to be an mp in clacton in essex. she has been charged with

assault by beating and criminal damage for that act. now last night was the first leaders debate in salford, greater manchester our correspondent has been out on the road visiting different constituencies in and around greater manchester. this morning she was in leeds, but right now is in west taunton, which is in the constituency of bolton west. explain what people are telling you, not only of what they made of that debate last night, but whether politicians are listening to what they want them to do. this constituency _ they want them to do. this constituency matters - they want them to do. tt 3 constituency matters because so goes bolton west, so goes the nation, it is one of those reliable bellwethers. conservative in the last election, and at the moment the polls are neck and neck, if you look at some of the local polling we will come to that second. we found this,

a takeaway, although it is not open at the moment. i don't know what sign it is. let's take into the florist and meet debbie. did you watch the debate yesterday? t florist and meet debbie. did you watch the debate yesterday? i watch some of it. and _ watch the debate yesterday? i watch some of it. and what _ watch the debate yesterday? i watch some of it. and what did you - watch the debate yesterday? i watch some of it. and what did you make i watch the debate yesterday? i watch | some of it. and what did you make of it? not— some of it. and what did you make of it? not really a lot, a lot of promises _ it? not really a lot, a lot of promises and say a lot of words and they don't— promises and say a lot of words and they don't follow anything up. he they don't follow anything up. hrs. decided they don't follow anything up. decided to they don't follow anything up. h2 decided to you will vote for? they don't follow anything up. he decided to you will vote for? no, | decided to you will vote for? no, not et. decided to you will vote for? no, rrot yet- i — decided to you will vote for? no, not yet. i have _ decided to you will vote for? no, not yet. i have not _ decided to you will vote for? no, not yet. i have not swayed either way _ not yet. i have not swayed either way i_ not yet. i have not swayed either way i am — not yet. i have not swayed either way. i am looking more towards labour~ — way. i am looking more towards labour. ~ ., , ., way. i am looking more towards labour. ~ ., ., ., way. i am looking more towards labour. ., ., ., labour. who did you vote for last time? i labour. who did you vote for last time? i have _ labour. who did you vote for last time? i have not— labour. who did you vote for last time? i have not voted _ labour. who did you vote for last time? i have not voted since - labour. who did you vote for last time? i have not voted since my| labour. who did you vote for last - time? i have not voted since my 18th birthda , i time? i have not voted since my 18th birthday. i have _ time? i have not voted since my 18th birthday, i have never— time? i have not voted since my 18th birthday, i have never really - birthday, i have never really bothered. birthday, i have never really bothered-— birthday, i have never really bothered. �* , ., ., birthday, i have never really bothered. �* ., ., bothered. but you might vote for the first time in — bothered. but you might vote for the first time in your _ bothered. but you might vote for the first time in your life _ bothered. but you might vote for the first time in your life to _ bothered. but you might vote for the first time in your life to labour- first time in your life to labour and my will that be?— and my will that be? because everything — and my will that be? because everything is _ and my will that be? because everything is a _ and my will that be? because everything is a mess - and my will that be? because everything is a mess at - and my will that be? because everything is a mess at the i and my will that be? because - everything is a mess at the moment, everything _ everything is a mess at the moment, everything seems to be blamed on

covid, _ everything seems to be blamed on covid, doctors, the nhs. ifeel sorry— covid, doctors, the nhs. ifeel sorry for— covid, doctors, the nhs. ifeel sorry for the nurses, i have seen it first-hand — sorry for the nurses, i have seen it first—hand because my passed away first—hand because my passed away first recently with cancer. everywhere it seems affected at the moment, _ everywhere it seems affected at the moment, small businesses, schools, everything _ moment, small businesses, schools, eve hint. ., ,. moment, small businesses, schools, eve hint. ., ,, ., everything. you think the labour pa are everything. you think the labour party are after — everything. you think the labour party are after that _ everything. you think the labour party are after that change? - everything. you think the labour party are after that change? the| party are after that change? the conservatives say they are the future as well. you saw the debate and the two different arguments, and at the moment you are convinced labour is the answer?— labour is the answer? hopefully. that is debbie _ labour is the answer? hopefully. that is debbie in _ labour is the answer? hopefully. that is debbie in the _ labour is the answer? hopefully. that is debbie in the forest. - labour is the answer? hopefully. that is debbie in the forest. we l labour is the answer? hopefully. i that is debbie in the forest. we are auoin to that is debbie in the forest. we are going to cross _ that is debbie in the forest. we are going to cross over _ that is debbie in the forest. we are going to cross over the _ that is debbie in the forest. we are going to cross over the road. - that is debbie in the forest. we are going to cross over the road. i will. going to cross over the road. i will make sure i cross safely. this is the high street, we were in leeds earlier were a lot of people were complaining the high street had lost its life and a lot of shops are shut down. here it is a bit more thriving. i am going to take it over to the food hall and cafe. and in

here, we have got paul rogers. he has been waiting patiently all afternoon to speak to us, so let's come around. you can stay where you are, i will get in my seat. we will talk tojoe in a second, he is from the manchester evening news. although we have been bbc election marks because the best way to find out what people think is often over a cuppa. you have been running this for a while, you watch the debate last night as well. what did you make of it? t last night as well. what did you make of it?— make of it? i felt it was... it could have _ make of it? i felt it was... it could have been _ make of it? i felt it was... it could have been hosted - make of it? i felt it was... it i could have been hosted better, make of it? i felt it was... it - could have been hosted better, i felt the — could have been hosted better, i felt the time spent on answering questions was not long enough, some of the _ questions was not long enough, some of the questions were more relevant than others — of the questions were more relevant than others and more time should have _ than others and more time should have been— than others and more time should have been given. i always find it impossible to understand why you ask a question— impossible to understand why you ask a question that might have three questions — a question that might have three questions inside it and then someone turns around — questions inside it and then someone turns around and says yes or no, and i turns around and says yes or no, and i have _ turns around and says yes or no, and i have always — turns around and says yes or no, and i have always believed the politics

of life _ i have always believed the politics of life just be defined by a yes or no. of life just be defined by a yes or no there — of life just be defined by a yes or no there is _ of life just be defined by a yes or no. there is always another story to id no. there is always another story to go with— no. there is always another story to go with it _ no. there is always another story to go with it i— no. there is always another story to go with it. i think it doesn't really— go with it. i think it doesn't really show the true answers or trivial— really show the true answers or trivial discussion.— really show the true answers or trivial discussion. what issues or questions. _ trivial discussion. what issues or questions, because _ trivial discussion. what issues or questions, because last - trivial discussion. what issues or questions, because last night. trivial discussion. what issues or i questions, because last night there was a studio audience, what questions resonated with you and you thought i wanted to ask that too? t thought i wanted to ask that too? i think in general terms most of the hot topics — think in general terms most of the hot topics were covered for now, and you could _ hot topics were covered for now, and you could see that. you could see the crowd, — you could see that. you could see the crowd, i— you could see that. you could see the crowd, i wasn't convinced the crowd _ the crowd, i wasn't convinced the crowd were — the crowd, i wasn't convinced the crowd were neutral and i were trying to work— crowd were neutral and i were trying to work out — crowd were neutral and i were trying to work out where to vote, i felt it was very— to work out where to vote, i felt it was very one—sided on their own one-sided — was very one—sided on their own one—sided in there. you can see that in the _ one—sided in there. you can see that in the split— one—sided in there. you can see that in the split of— one—sided in there. you can see that in the split of the polls. —— the applause _ in the split of the polls. —— the applause i_ in the split of the polls. —— the applause. i felt the crowd could have _ applause. i felt the crowd could have been better, in the sense of being _ have been better, in the sense of being neutral and trying to work out what to _ being neutral and trying to work out what to do. — being neutral and trying to work out what to do, like i am at the moment, and also _ what to do, like i am at the moment, and also the — what to do, like i am at the moment, and also the questions. for me, i felt when — and also the questions. for me, i felt when they talked about migration, they talk about the boats

and everything else, and ijust think— and everything else, and ijust think there was a positive answer, it might _ think there was a positive answer, it might not — think there was a positive answer, it might not have been necessarily the right— it might not have been necessarily the right answer that people want, and then— the right answer that people want, and then there was no answer given, and then there was no answer given, and just— and then there was no answer given, and just tended to be a debate between — and just tended to be a debate between them.— and just tended to be a debate between them. . . �* ., ., , between them. given that bolton west is a seat that — between them. given that bolton west is a seat that almost _ between them. given that bolton west is a seat that almost reflects _ between them. given that bolton west is a seat that almost reflects the - is a seat that almost reflects the way the country goes, who did you vote for it last time and who are you thinking you will vote for it this time? t you thinking you will vote for it this time?— you thinking you will vote for it this time? ., ., , ., ., , this time? i voted conservative last time, i this time? i voted conservative last time. i voted _ this time? i voted conservative last time. i voted a _ this time? i voted conservative last time, i voted a lot _ this time? i voted conservative last time, i voted a lot of— this time? i voted conservative last time, i voted a lot of conservative l time, i voted a lot of conservative through— time, i voted a lot of conservative through my— time, i voted a lot of conservative through my life. i think i have actually— through my life. i think i have actually been swayed once, which was in the _ actually been swayed once, which was in the famous 97 election and right now i_ in the famous 97 election and right now i am _ in the famous 97 election and right now i am just not sure. i was very disheartened with the conservatives in the _ disheartened with the conservatives in the past — disheartened with the conservatives in the past few years post—pandemic, but i in the past few years post—pandemic, but i have _ in the past few years post—pandemic, but i have always believed that whatever party was in it during covid — whatever party was in it during covid was _ whatever party was in it during covid was always going to have a tough _ covid was always going to have a tough time. the whole crisis that hit us _ tough time. the whole crisis that hit us after— tough time. the whole crisis that

hit us after the next couple of years. — hit us after the next couple of years. i— hit us after the next couple of years, i don't think we are necessarily down to the uk government and the politics and anything — government and the politics and anything else. i think it is still in recession and a tough time. with the tax _ in recession and a tough time. with the tax hikes and the cost of living — the tax hikes and the cost of livina. ., ., , living. you are still feeling it even though _ living. you are still feeling it even though the _ living. you are still feeling it even though the economic i living. you are still feeling it - even though the economic figures show an improvement? to�*s even though the economic figures show an improvement? 10% growth year on ear. show an improvement? 1096 growth year on year- whilst — show an improvement? 1096 growth year on year- whilst i — show an improvement? 1096 growth year on year. whilst i agree _ show an improvement? 1096 growth year on year. whilst i agree with _ show an improvement? 1096 growth year on year. whilst i agree with living - on year. whilst i agree with living wage _ on year. whilst i agree with living wage a _ on year. whilst i agree with living wage a national minimum wage, we have to _ wage a national minimum wage, we have to move on, but since i have owned _ have to move on, but since i have owned by— have to move on, but since i have owned by businesses i have seen 10% rises year— owned by businesses i have seen 10% rises year on — owned by businesses i have seen 10% rises year on year on year. no tax breaks, _ rises year on year on year. no tax breaks, that — rises year on year on year. no tax breaks, that can be help people. what _ breaks, that can be help people. what is — breaks, that can be help people. what is the tax allowance, £12,750? everyone's _ what is the tax allowance, £12,750? everyone's wages go up by the tax rates _ everyone's wages go up by the tax rates have — everyone's wages go up by the tax rates have not moved, which is where you can _ rates have not moved, which is where you can give _ rates have not moved, which is where you can give people money. are you considering giving your vote to labour or somewhere else? t are you considering giving your vote to labour or somewhere else? i can't believe my — to labour or somewhere else? i can't believe my paper _

to labour or somewhere else? i can't believe my paper because _ to labour or somewhere else? i can't believe my paper because i'm - to labour or somewhere else? i can't believe my paper because i'm not. believe my paper because i'm not convinced — believe my paper because i'm not convinced by anything and is not because~~ — convinced by anything and is not because~~ i_ convinced by anything and is not because... i don't believe the spoil vote i_ because... idon't believe the spoil vote i think— because... i don't believe the spoil vote i think it's a vote and i will turn _ vote i think it's a vote and i will turn up — vote i think it's a vote and i will turn up and _ vote i think it's a vote and i will turn up and say and do this and perhaps— turn up and say and do this and perhaps i— turn up and say and do this and perhaps i will write a story on it. however. — perhaps i will write a story on it. however. i— perhaps i will write a story on it. however, i will make about but i'm not sure _ however, i will make about but i'm not sure. ., ., , , however, i will make about but i'm notsure. ., ., , , ., , not sure. paul, who runs this lovely cafe restaurant. _ not sure. paul, who runs this lovely cafe restaurant. joe, _ not sure. paul, who runs this lovely cafe restaurant. joe, from - not sure. paul, who runs this lovely cafe restaurant. joe, from the - cafe restaurant. joe, from the manchester evening news. we have beenin manchester evening news. we have been in this area for a day or so now and we were in lee earlier. a lot of people in the message seems to be there for another politics in london and westminster and they are undecided. we have debbie over the road we have had paul here and other people and some are not necessarily thinking it's a debate between the labour and conservatives but maybe even reformed coming in. you cover this, what would you say are the biggest issues in terms of which way the seat and others now go? the

first thing to _ the seat and others now go? the first thing to say it's hard to find enthusiasm _ first thing to say it's hard to find enthusiasm for— first thing to say it's hard to find enthusiasm for any— first thing to say it's hard to find enthusiasm for any of— first thing to say it's hard to find enthusiasm for any of the - first thing to say it's hard to find i enthusiasm for any of the parties you mentioned _ enthusiasm for any of the parties you mentioned. there's - enthusiasm for any of the parties you mentioned. there's a - enthusiasm for any of the parties you mentioned. there's a lot- enthusiasm for any of the parties you mentioned. there's a lot of. you mentioned. there's a lot of disillusionment. _ you mentioned. there's a lot of disillusionment. speaking - you mentioned. there's a lot of disillusionment. speaking to i you mentioned. there's a lot of- disillusionment. speaking to voters across— disillusionment. speaking to voters across greater _ disillusionment. speaking to voters across greater manchester - disillusionment. speaking to voters across greater manchester the - disillusionment. speaking to voters i across greater manchester the things i across greater manchester the things i keep— across greater manchester the things i keep coming— across greater manchester the things i keep coming up— across greater manchester the things i keep coming up is— across greater manchester the things i keep coming up is nhs— across greater manchester the things i keep coming up is nhs waiting - i keep coming up is nhs waiting lists, _ i keep coming up is nhs waiting lists, cost— i keep coming up is nhs waiting lists, cost of— i keep coming up is nhs waiting lists, cost of living. _ i keep coming up is nhs waiting lists, cost of living. i— lists, cost of living. i think people _ lists, cost of living. i think people have _ lists, cost of living. i think people have really- lists, cost of living. i think. people have really struggled lists, cost of living. i think- people have really struggled over the last— people have really struggled over the last few — people have really struggled over the last few years _ people have really struggled over the last few years and _ people have really struggled over the last few years and that - people have really struggled over. the last few years and that perhaps feeds— the last few years and that perhaps feeds into — the last few years and that perhaps feeds into that _ the last few years and that perhaps feeds into that sense _ the last few years and that perhaps feeds into that sense of _ feeds into that sense of disillusionment, - feeds into that sense of disillusionment, they. feeds into that sense of. disillusionment, they don't feeds into that sense of - disillusionment, they don't trust that a _ disillusionment, they don't trust that a vote — disillusionment, they don't trust that a vote will _ disillusionment, they don't trust that a vote will make _ disillusionment, they don't trust that a vote will make a - disillusionment, they don't trust l that a vote will make a difference and politics— that a vote will make a difference and politics will— that a vote will make a difference and politics will fix _ that a vote will make a difference and politics will fix it _ that a vote will make a difference and politics will fix it which is - that a vote will make a difference and politics will fix it which is a i and politics will fix it which is a shame — and politics will fix it which is a shame but— and politics will fix it which is a shame but those _ and politics will fix it which is a shame but those of— and politics will fix it which is a shame but those of the - and politics will fix it which is a shame but those of the thingsl and politics will fix it which is a - shame but those of the things that are coming — shame but those of the things that are coming across _ shame but those of the things that are coming across strongly. - shame but those of the things that are coming across strongly. find i shame but those of the things that are coming across strongly. and what is the polling — are coming across strongly. and what is the polling showing _ are coming across strongly. and what is the polling showing for _ are coming across strongly. and what is the polling showing for most - are coming across strongly. and what is the polling showing for most of - is the polling showing for most of the seats? ., , ., the seats? there have been a few meta the seats? there have been a few mega polls _ the seats? there have been a few mega polls that — the seats? there have been a few mega polls that are _ the seats? there have been a few mega polls that are not _ the seats? there have been a few mega polls that are not done - the seats? there have been a few mega polls that are not done by i mega polls that are not done by specifically— mega polls that are not done by specifically asking _ mega polls that are not done by specifically asking the _ mega polls that are not done by specifically asking the people i mega polls that are not done by specifically asking the people inj specifically asking the people in the constituency— specifically asking the people in the constituency to _ specifically asking the people in the constituency to project - specifically asking the people in the constituency to project on i specifically asking the people in i the constituency to project on the demographics _ the constituency to project on the demographics and _ the constituency to project on the demographics and they— the constituency to project on the demographics and they are - the constituency to project on the i demographics and they are showing that labour— demographics and they are showing that labour are _ demographics and they are showing that labour are going _ demographics and they are showing that labour are going to _ demographics and they are showing that labour are going to have - demographics and they are showing that labour are going to have a - that labour are going to have a really— that labour are going to have a really good _ that labour are going to have a really good night _ that labour are going to have a really good night and _ that labour are going to have a really good night and the - that labour are going to have a really good night and the lib i that labour are going to have a - really good night and the lib dems will pick— really good night and the lib dems will pick up — really good night and the lib dems will pick up a — really good night and the lib dems will pick up a couple _ really good night and the lib dems will pick up a couple of _ really good night and the lib dems will pick up a couple of seats. - will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard _ will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard to— will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard to say— will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard to say whether _ will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard to say whether that - will pick up a couple of seats. it's hard to say whether that will- hard to say whether that will come true because — hard to say whether that will come true because as _ hard to say whether that will come true because as the _ hard to say whether that will come true because as the pulse - hard to say whether that will come true because as the pulse titan, i true because as the pulse titan, some _ true because as the pulse titan, some of— true because as the pulse titan, some of those _ true because as the pulse titan, some of those narrow _ true because as the pulse titan, j some of those narrow majorities true because as the pulse titan, i some of those narrow majorities in the poll— some of those narrow majorities in the poll might— some of those narrow majorities in the poll might allow— some of those narrow majorities in the poll might allow the _ the poll might allow the conservatives _ the poll might allow the conservatives to - the poll might allow the

conservatives to keep i the poll might allow the i conservatives to keep the the poll might allow the - conservatives to keep the odd the poll might allow the _ conservatives to keep the odd seat here or— conservatives to keep the odd seat here orthere _ conservatives to keep the odd seat here or there. let— conservatives to keep the odd seat here or there-— conservatives to keep the odd seat here or there. ., ., here or there. let me mention reform before we wrap — here or there. let me mention reform before we wrap up _ here or there. let me mention reform before we wrap up because _ here or there. let me mention reform before we wrap up because what - here or there. let me mention reform before we wrap up because what i - before we wrap up because what i found over at the other village were quite a few people that it's not that we are contemplating to vote labour or conservative, but now mr nigel faraj has entered the leadership and they are debating whether they should go for reform. is it something you are finding? yes, i think brexit was a big issue here _ yes, i think brexit was a big issue here and — yes, i think brexit was a big issue here and leigh— yes, i think brexit was a big issue here and leigh never— yes, i think brexit was a big issue here and leigh never voted - here and leigh never voted conservative _ here and leigh never voted conservative before - here and leigh never voted conservative before and . here and leigh never voted . conservative before and brexit here and leigh never voted - conservative before and brexit was one thing _ conservative before and brexit was one thing that _ conservative before and brexit was one thing that made _ conservative before and brexit was one thing that made people - conservative before and brexit was one thing that made people switch| one thing that made people switch and reform — one thing that made people switch and reform is _ one thing that made people switch and reform is taking _ one thing that made people switch and reform is taking on— one thing that made people switch and reform is taking on those - one thing that made people switch. and reform is taking on those voters with them _ and reform is taking on those voters with them in— and reform is taking on those voters with them in a— and reform is taking on those voters with them in a way— and reform is taking on those voters with them in a way the _ and reform is taking on those votersj with them in a way the conservatives perhaps— with them in a way the conservatives perhaps haven't _ with them in a way the conservatives perhaps haven't been _ with them in a way the conservatives perhaps haven't been able _ with them in a way the conservatives perhaps haven't been able to, - with them in a way the conservatives perhaps haven't been able to, but. perhaps haven't been able to, but i think— perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there — perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there are _ perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there are a _ perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there are a few— perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there are a few hotspots - perhaps haven't been able to, but i think there are a few hotspots in i think there are a few hotspots in greater— think there are a few hotspots in greater manchester _ think there are a few hotspots in greater manchester for - think there are a few hotspots in greater manchester for reform i think there are a few hotspots in. greater manchester for reform to pick up _ greater manchester for reform to pick up votes _ greater manchester for reform to pick up votes-— greater manchester for reform to pick up votes. thank you for picking and sharing — pick up votes. thank you for picking and sharing your — pick up votes. thank you for picking and sharing your insights _ pick up votes. thank you for picking and sharing your insights and - pick up votes. thank you for picking and sharing your insights and there | and sharing your insights and there we have it for the moment. lots of interesting seeds as you know in the

greater manchester area, seats that really could define how the next parliament looks.— really could define how the next parliament looks. thanks very much and we will — parliament looks. thanks very much and we will talk _ parliament looks. thanks very much and we will talk a _ parliament looks. thanks very much and we will talk a little _ parliament looks. thanks very much and we will talk a little later. - parliament looks. thanks very much and we will talk a little later. to - and we will talk a little later. to tell you these are the candidates that have been selected so far that are battling it in that constituency were we have been reporting from full stop all on the screen but is worth saying that there is 48 hours for the party together candidates in place and the deadline for pm friday so let's talk about what happens next. we have a journalist looking for candidates been chosen and some have been a drop both parties do not have much time to give those plans in place and michaeljoins me from london. i want to start with the conservative chairman. he has been bouncing around trying to find a place to settle and we now know where that might be. yes basildon in essex. they have a meeting at eight o'clock

tonight and the party is being told that they have to, they have been told by conservative central office that they have a short list of one. there is one candidate to choose and thatis there is one candidate to choose and that is one rick holden and the local party, many of them are furious and the local council, the leader of the conservatives and the local council has said we are looking to take this without a fight and they think they should have had and they think they should have had a lot more choice, including local contenders and there are also, around the country, many have been in touch with me, very unhappy people who have been on the conservative list of approved candidates who have been trying to get seats for years and putting masses of effort into that process and they resent the fact that they were not allowed to compete in basildon and yet the party chairman, rick holden, has basically marched

in and said i will have the seat and it was always going to be a problem. rick holden has been squeezed out of his seat in county durham, durham north east, which is, there is no way he can wind any more and it was known he would have to look for another seat and it was a mistake and i think, to take on the role of conservative party chairman, when he hadn't got a cjet for the next election. there was bound to be a conflict of interest there. michael, ou have conflict of interest there. michael, you have been _ conflict of interest there. michael, you have been covering _ conflict of interest there. michael, you have been covering elections. conflict of interest there. michael, i you have been covering elections for a long time, over 50 years and you know how these things work. you are right, in basildon that conservative council are really unhappy so the imposition of candidates and the good folk of basildon is shameful. "we wanted someone local and new essex and we want the choice and he is not local and he does not essex and we are not getting a choice." how does this work? why would conservative central office impose a candidate on that constituency that local people do not know wuzzle

there is always a tension between there is always a tension between the party leadership, and this applies to labour as one of the conservatives and probably the liberal democrats as well. there is a tension between _ liberal democrats as well. there is a tension between the _ liberal democrats as well. there is a tension between the party - a tension between the party leadership, who want the best quality candidates to be in the house of commons, to serve as ministers in government. you really do need talented people to do that kind of thing. whereas, the grassroots and activists and indeed the local voters probably, they want people who they think would be good mps representing their area. many voters and activists probably don't care if their mp becomes a minister or in some cases they probably would prefer they don't become a minister so there is that tension and the problem is that if you say, all the constituency associations, conservatives or labour around the country can select other candidates, that doesn't leave much room for talented people that are leadership needs to slot in and so what happens

is the parties deliberately, through one trick and another and there is a lot of dishonesty in this, frankly, have certain seeds that are left to the very end and then they say, oh, well, it's far too late to have a proper democratic process, you're going to have to choose from our of three names, or you canjust have this candidate here, lump it or leave it, which is what labour have donein leave it, which is what labour have done in the last few days. and activists, understandably, a local level revolt that happens. shes activists, understandably, a local level revolt that happens.- level revolt that happens. as you said, level revolt that happens. as you said. leaving _ level revolt that happens. as you said, leaving it _ level revolt that happens. as you said, leaving it to _ level revolt that happens. as you said, leaving it to the _ level revolt that happens. as you said, leaving it to the last - level revolt that happens. as you | said, leaving it to the last minute and they have 48 hours until friday, but some court on the hot because the election was a surprise to many westminster, including the conservatives, because i'm looking hither when the election was called a constituencies did have a tory candidate. this is a true of a number of parties.—

candidate. this is a true of a number of parties. they could have s-eeded number of parties. they could have speeded up — number of parties. they could have speeded up the _ number of parties. they could have speeded up the process _ number of parties. they could have speeded up the process a - number of parties. they could have speeded up the process a bit - number of parties. they could have speeded up the process a bit but i number of parties. they could have | speeded up the process a bit but let me just remind you that basildon and billericay the sitting mp announces retirement not last week but he announced it last october. eight or nine months ago. they could have chosen a hundred candidates in that time and it's clearly being held backin time and it's clearly being held back in the same way that the labour trick, what they did and this is even worse, because it's corrupt, they persuaded mps who planned to announce their retirements to leave it to the last moment and they dangled in front of these mps the possibility of getting a peerage. indeed one mp was quoted as saying that they had been offered a peerage in order to keep it light that they make their announcement and labour saying no time for a proper process and the national executive will have to choose your candid and lo and behold, six other candidates chosen

by the labour party at the last minute are themselves members of the national executive. and other ones are close stormers and that's reasonable but if you use these elections are to reward your political friends in factional fighting, that is the sort of thing that really annoys the activists and they are really annoyed, in both parties, partly because more lies have been —— maglite has been shown in the process. a lot of this has been secretly hidden and lots of things have happened in the past but this is the worst that i know of. and you've been following this closely. and you've been following this closel . ., ., , ., ., closely. darren rodwell was made to stand down for— closely. darren rodwell was made to stand down for labour. _ closely. darren rodwell was made to stand down for labour. where - closely. darren rodwell was made to stand down for labour. where does i stand down for labour. where does it... it feels like a bit of a mess when there is just four weeks to go to the election.— to the election. that's right, and the parties _ to the election. that's right, and the parties say _ to the election. that's right, and the parties say that _ to the election. that's right, and the parties say that they - to the election. that's right, and the parties say that they always| the parties say that they always investigate their would—be

candidates properly and they do due diligence and criminal record checks on this, that and the other and so one wonders in the case has some of these candidates managed to make it this far. and then one of lebanon? they have chosen the leader of enfield council and darren rodwell�*s seat who has all sorts of things said about her. and they are equally controversial and she had to admit to a bullying charge some years ago, for example. and so, there is a lot of hypocrisy goes on here and generally, in the labour party, but they have done is they have gone back and trawled people's social media and fan things they might have said 12 years ago or something and usedit said 12 years ago or something and used it against them but they have done it against people on the left and people in the right have not had their social media posts trawled into in quite the same way. for example, whilst reading said on

social media in 2009 while he was a present of nationally and the students that he would like to push a journalist in the daily mail under a journalist in the daily mail under a train and then in the same day he issued another treat saying the same thing but he has not been disqualified, with streeting, because he is a measure of the shadow cabinet and they couldn't possibly axiom. reform uk is in a bit of a scramble to name as candidates and register them. talk to me about their challenge. their challenae to me about their challenge. their challenge is _ to me about their challenge. their challenge is this. _ to me about their challenge. their challenge is this. they _ to me about their challenge. their challenge is this. they will - to me about their challenge. tt2 " challenge is this. they will not win any seats apart from possibly and maybe even probably clacton were nigel faraj is standing as we know. nigel faraje. clacton, of all seeds is perhaps the most likely to get a candidate like that and that is the seed that you keep one in a by—election in 2014 and one of the subsequent general election but everywhere else, it's all a bit of a

thing on the ground, they don't have any organisation the grant, reform uk, their candidates are not big names like nigel farage and there are only a half a dozen that i have heard of and i'm meant to be an expert on this. i don't see them winning any other seat but they will get a lot of votes and they will get a lot of defectors from the conservative party, people particularly given this disillusionment and anger over the candidate selection process. they will get conservative donors and i think you may even find a lot of conservative party officials at the local level, maybe even national level and maybe even one or two mps secretly without telling anyone, because they will be expelled if they did, secretly voting for reform uk because there is a lot of dissatisfaction within the conservative party right now with the leader of russia should or rishi sunak and rick nick holden. b. reall sunak and rick nick holden. a real insiaht sunak and rick nick holden. a real

insight into — sunak and rick nick holden. a real insight into how _ sunak and rick nick holden. a real insight into how this _ sunak and rick nick holden. a real insight into how this works. - sunak and rick nick holden. a real insight into how this works. this i insight into how this works. this talk of a policy now and those candidates. let's talk about the liberal democrats announced. i pledge to freeze regulated rail fares. as doctor deming —— our political correspondent. —— mike damian. this is not a particular new promise, they had something similar in 2019 but they say now is the time to freeze those fares.— to freeze those fares. explain the ro osal to freeze those fares. explain the proposal please. _ to freeze those fares. explain the proposal please. yes, _ to freeze those fares. explain the proposal please. yes, that's - to freeze those fares. explain the l proposal please. yes, that's right, but they are saying is the fares have been going up saying is the fares have been going up but services and quality of services and going down and people haven't been getting what they paid for so as you said,... excuse me. they pledged this before but they are saying now is they will, for a year, freeze fares and they say that will save perhaps under £200 each

and it would be paid for by clamping down on tax avoidance or trying to collect more tax. there is a question about these figures because in the past, when they put forward this policy, they talked about it costing a lot more than that, so thatis costing a lot more than that, so that is something that perhaps we can try and delve into what this event here is not really to do with the railfares, sir ed davey isjust doing one of his campaign stop interviews, here, we are at a retirement home and what he is really hoping to feature here is this central thing that he is pushing throughout this campaign about carers, they announced yesterday their plan for free social care, free personal care for people in england, whether it's in a place like this are in your own home and he took part a bit earlier in a music session with some of the residents here were drumming away

with their silver balls in a room behind there. but combined that what he will do is he is launching, they are launching their tv, national tv advert and it's a very personal and specific and focused on the ed davey filming him at home with his son, who has severe disabilities and he is talking about caring for his son, how his parents both died when he was young, had to care for his mother who died in her 40s and he is talking about putting caring at the heart of his manifesto and he says because he understands the pressures on people, believes it's something thatis on people, believes it's something that is neglected, believes it's something that needs to change and that therefore he wants to feature that therefore he wants to feature that and that's going to be part of the liberal democrats want what they're doing. t’m the liberal democrats want what they're doing-— the liberal democrats want what they're doing. i'm not quite what the 're they're doing. i'm not quite what they're expecting _ they're doing. i'm not quite what they're expecting today. -

they're doing. i'm not quite what they're expecting today. peoplel they're doing. i'm not quite what - they're expecting today. people were expecting tax us now but i spoke to the lib dems treasury spokesperson earlier and the lib dems are sitting back right now and saying this is not our row to get into. what is ed davey saying today about the debate last night? davey saying today about the debate last niuht? ~ ., ., ., ., last night? well, i had half an air across what _ last night? well, i had half an air across what he _ last night? well, i had half an air across what he was _ last night? well, i had half an air across what he was saying, - last night? well, i had half an air across what he was saying, a - last night? well, i had half an air. across what he was saying, a couple of minutes ago and i think he is repeating similar things. the lib dems are pointing out that under the conservatives they say taxes have risen in the last year to highs not seenin risen in the last year to highs not seen in decades and that the projections into the future, because of the way tax bands are frozen means people will continue to be paying more tax. pointing out that as a part of the government is actually doing is what he wants to focus on. but interestingly, in some ways having not taken part in the debate yesterday, lib dems possibly

feel that in some ways they can stand back and try to focus on policy and not get involved in that factor for arguing and policy and not get involved in that factorfor arguing and bad—tempered factor for arguing and bad—tempered debate factorfor arguing and bad—tempered debate that goes on and questionable figures that were being put out and instead, what they are doing is a personal focus answer ed davey, he had ten minutes after the debate discussing his policies on itv, it's much more policy focused and personality focused with all the events he is doing in the efforts he is making to come across as being more relaxed and easy—going and able to laugh at himself, is one of talk of a policy and i think in some ways, is the heart of their campaign, ratherthan ways, is the heart of their campaign, rather than those backing for the big questions.— campaign, rather than those backing for the big questions. damien, thank ou. we'll for the big questions. damien, thank you. we'll let you get _ for the big questions. damien, thank you. we'll let you get a _ for the big questions. damien, thank you. we'll let you get a full- for the big questions. damien, thank you. we'll let you get a full year- you. we'll let you get a full year over what he was saying.

we discussed that debate last night and voters had the best part of a day to digest what they heard a bit of whether they liked what they heard in this talk about it with lucy woodham who joins me heard in this talk about it with lucy woodham whojoins me now. lucy, good to have you with us. talk to me about what the reaction has been because it was pretty tetchy and angry and very feisty and what do people make of it? tt angry and very feisty and what do people make of it?— angry and very feisty and what do people make of it? if we focus with the audience. _ people make of it? if we focus with the audience, and _ people make of it? if we focus with the audience, and bbc— people make of it? if we focus with the audience, and bbc news - people make of it? if we focus with i the audience, and bbc news tick-tock the audience, and bbc news tick—tock there were three areas that were getting a lot of engagement last night. national service, with home ownership and private health care. national service were things we have seen before about young people saying, why would i have to do this thing if i don't feel like i'm getting enough back from the country at the moment? a lot of people saying, remember covid? we spent those years locked up. it is a flip side of 12 people saying this policy could be exciting and an opportunity for young people and learning skills and things like that. homeownership has got thousands of comments on our

videos. people were very aligned in the comments and saying they care less about the number of homes that we need to build and how many of them would be affordable. affordability with the keyword that kept popping up and they say they don't have enough money for a deposit and agency house in the future and so that come section was pretty aligned. and private health care it was flipped and divided. you had rishi sunak saying he would use private health care and you had starmer saying he wouldn't and that really divided people with the commons. many people were saying that if rishi sunak is willing to pay for private, is one less person on the white list and is not a good thing? many people saying that if i had to pay for it or could pay for and i would. other people were saying that isn't is just showing the problem with the nhs? saying that isn't isjust showing the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and — the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and we'll— the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and we'll talk— the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and we'll talk more _ the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and we'll talk more than - the problem with the nhs? lucy, stay with me and we'll talk more than a . with me and we'll talk more than a minute i want to head straight to florida to cape canaveral because of this is a star liner mission and its

just under a minute from lift off and it's the third attempt at launching a first crude test flight. it's about a decade into the making and this is a new spacecraft and its maiden voyage and discuss humans on board and is on track for liftoff and cape canaveral in florida. there we go. it has begun. it's the culmination of boeing's efforts to develop a spacecraft that would rival space x. we have seen a lot of space x launches this is a flight with a crew on it and ferrying astronauts which will ultimately be used for the space station under nasa plasma commercial crew programme. a lot of this is the

moving space x flights and space development away from the public sector and things like nasa to the private sector and having the private sector and having the private sector and having the private sector involvement in investment and the money in it. it looks, i'm nota investment and the money in it. it looks, i'm not a basic spread, it looked pretty successful so far and if it is successful it marks the only sixth inauguraljourney of spacecraft with crew in history. this incredible image we are getting now from what is boeing's star liner mission. it's the third attempt to launch its first flight test with a crew on it in more than a decade in the making. i could watch those pictures all day. we will keep a close eye on how that goes but that is the moment of liftoff from cape canaveral in florida. let's return to lucy. sorry for interrupting you but those pictures were incredible. we were talking about the debate

last night and what young people made of it and it was so interesting because specific questions from the audience and you talked about some of them issues that you want to highlight and i think one of the people that were speaking said, what are you going to do for us as a politician? and that sort of feels like one of the key themes here. look people saying politics doesn't represent me. t look people saying politics doesn't represent me— represent me. i think that's right. peole represent me. i think that's right. people talk _ represent me. i think that's right. people talk would _ represent me. i think that's right. | people talk would homeownership national service, people saying what i'm getting back from that? that's right. generally, we felt like a lot of people were struggling with how much they're going head—to—head with one another and i had a lot of sympathy for the presenter trying to get control of the leaders and all other means and that.— get control of the leaders and all other means and that. what's your sense of engagement. _ other means and that. what's your sense of engagement. there - other means and that. what's your sense of engagement. there is . other means and that. what's your| sense of engagement. there is still a long way to go, for weeks and we don't have a final list of candidates or what the manifesto promises are from these parties. what's your sense of how engaged

people are of this campaign? t what's your sense of how engaged people are of this campaign? i think the are. i people are of this campaign? i think they are. i would _ people are of this campaign? i think they are. i would say _ people are of this campaign? i think they are. i would say different - people are of this campaign? i think they are. i would say different if. they are. i would say different if there were not thousands of comments on our videos and even that housing video, the analytic show is massively skewed to an under 25 audience so i think young people are engaged but it's topics that affect them so long way to go and i think... . ., ., , ., , them so long wayto go andl think... . ., ., , ., , think... what does that inside you have had in _ think... what does that inside you have had in terms _ think. .. what does that inside you have had in terms of— think... what does that inside you have had in terms of responses i think... what does that inside you j have had in terms of responses on what people are talking, one what does allow you to do now and bbc news social in terms of explaining some of the key issues? tt tare news social in terms of explaining some of the key issues? if we know the to - ics some of the key issues? if we know the topics that _ some of the key issues? if we know the topics that young _ some of the key issues? if we know the topics that young people - some of the key issues? if we know the topics that young people care i the topics that young people care about it means we can go out and get about it means we can go out and get a verification of things and what people's opinion is on that salt houses with our coverage. lucy, so aood to houses with our coverage. lucy, so good to talk _ houses with our coverage. lucy, so good to talk to _ houses with our coverage. lucy, so good to talk to you _ houses with our coverage. lucy, so good to talk to you and _ houses with our coverage. lucy, so good to talk to you and you. - houses with our coverage. lucy, so | good to talk to you and you. we the pace ourselves for the few weeks. just to say there is nonstop coverage of the election and the

twist and turns and highs and lows in the details from the politicians as they lay out what their campaign will look like and we will have it now right up until the elections and the results are announced and what it means for the government, whatever colour emerges into number ten onjuly the 5th. you can take a look on the bbc iplayer all you need to know and bbc election 2024 come alive. i showed you those incredible pictures that were coming from florida and cape canaveral. they have got even better. look at that. i don't know if we can still call a cape canaveral because it is way above earth right now. those are the pictures coming to us from bowing's star line mission because it's the third attempt to launch a flight, test flight with a crew on it and stuff a decade in the making. we now have lost those pictures but launch we showed you a little earlier with

spectacular images. they are reaping some of those images now. we might be able to take you back to them but i'm not sure what this view is but there we go. it gives us a sense of what that star liner mission is seeing right now. the weather conditions have been pretty favourable to that that lunch happen as planned. there was some concern about cloud but it certainly appears that was no hindrance to the launch. this mission is the culmination of boeing's efforts to develop a rival spacecraft to space x's launch that we have seen a lot of in recent months. headlines coming up for you shortly. stay with this here and bbc news.

live from london. this is bbc news. labour says the prime minister is lying over the cost of keir starmer�*s tax plans. the conservatives stand by their figures. in the last hour the labour leader has responded. tt figures. in the last hour the labour leader has responded.— figures. in the last hour the labour leader has responded. it was a flash of his character, _ leader has responded. it was a flash of his character, an _ leader has responded. it was a flash of his character, an insight - leader has responded. it was a flash of his character, an insight into - of his character, an insight into his character to life. i don't say that lightly. two days of events to mark the 80th

anniversary of the d—day landings have begun in portsmouth. attended by veterans and the king and queen. in normandy parachutes have staged a spectacular recreation of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings. hello, i'm ben thompson. the conservatives have defended a key accusation about labour�*s tax plans which rishi sunak used repeatedly against keir starmer in the first televised election debate last night. it comes after a letter from senior treasury civil servants who say the claims, that labour's policy would amount to eight to £80,000 tax rise for uk households, was not costed by civil servants. labour says the figure was a lie,

but the suffering the conservatives have insisted the standby claim. a short while ago keir starmer responded. taste short while ago keir starmer responded-— short while ago keir starmer resonded. ~ ., , . ., responded. we have been clear throughout _ responded. we have been clear throughout that _ responded. we have been clear throughout that all _ responded. we have been clear throughout that all of _ responded. we have been clear throughout that all of our - responded. we have been clear throughout that all of our plansj responded. we have been clear. throughout that all of our plans are fully costed and funded, and that means no tax rises for working people and i will spell that out, no income tax, no national insurance, no vat. what you saw last night was a prime minister with his back against the wall desperately trying to defend 14 years of failure, resorting, and it was a flash of his character, and insight into his character, and insight into his character, to lies. i don't say that lightly, to lies about labour�*s plans, about health waiting lists, about tax. lies from the prime minister. after last night, it is important to appreciate the choice at the next election is even more important because it is a choice between more of this, chaos, division, and out lies, and turning

the page and rebuilding with labour. let's talk to our political correspondent who is in westminster. it was a feisty debate, an angry debate at times, there was a lot of talking over each other. but the one thing that everybody is talking about is that tax allegation. what do we know about the details of what happened and the responses from both parties? tt happened and the responses from both arties? . . happened and the responses from both arties? ., , ., , , happened and the responses from both arties? .,, ., , , , , happened and the responses from both arties? ., , , , , ., parties? it was a pretty feisty and unpleasant _ parties? it was a pretty feisty and unpleasant affair _ parties? it was a pretty feisty and unpleasant affair last _ parties? it was a pretty feisty and unpleasant affair last night - parties? it was a pretty feisty and unpleasant affair last night and i unpleasant affair last night and rishi sunak repeatedly made this claim that working households would be up to £2000 worse off if labour came to power. at the time keir starmer said it was garbage but the whole thing blew up when the bbc got its hands on a lecture that had been written a couple of days ago that said it came from a senior civil servant, a senior treasury official who said this figure should not be presented as an official treasury number. in essence, what has happened here is some of these

figures may have been produced by the treasury, but they will be worked up on inputs from special advisers who say can you come up with a figure for this? the other thing to say is we do not know what all of labour policies are at the moment because we don't have their manifesto. there is quite a lot of extrapolation in these numbers and they are not official treasury numbers. labour is absolutely furious about this and are saying the number should not have been in use. as you will have heard in that clip, keir starmerwhen use. as you will have heard in that clip, keir starmer when he was out and about today was asked about these figures and the use of these figures, and he accused rishi sunak of lying in very bold terms, and said the prime minister had lied about what labour is planning to do on all sorts of things, waiting lists, national insurance and this figure about tax. for lists, national insurance and this figure about tax.— figure about tax. for now, thank ou. figure about tax. for now, thank you- let's _ figure about tax. for now, thank you. let's talk _ figure about tax. for now, thank you. let's talk to _ figure about tax. for now, thank you. let's talk to the _ figure about tax. for now, thank you. let's talk to the bbc - figure about tax. for now, thank. you. let's talk to the bbc political correspondent hannah miller who is on the campaign trail with the labour party. we played that clip of keir starmer, he said the choice at

the next election is starker now thanit the next election is starker now than it was yesterday. this comes down to trust because a lot of people watching that debate will say rishi sunak was quite successful, he has raised this issue of tax on what labour will do and that is all anyone is talking about, but it could backfire in the sense that now becomes an issue of trust and honesty on the campaign trail. t honesty on the campaign trail. i think that is the question for honesty on the campaign trail. t think that is the question for the labour party in terms of how this plays out now, it is whether people take from it the message, which is frankly disingenuous, that their current plans would lead to people paying £2000 more in tax, there are a number of reasons why that is a disingenuous claim, but whether people have heard that repeatedly and take that message away or whether the message they hear is keir starmer saying rishi sunak was lying. we have seen the labour party today put out a number of releases on social media calling him a liar,

repeating that claim, they want that now to be the message that people take, and that, to some extent, will dictate how this plays out for them because we know that during the debate last night, keir starmer tried to come in and say he wanted to come back on that claim, but it did really take some time, and he was repeatedly asked by a journalist today here in portsmouth why it took him so long to refute the claim, why he didn'tjump in sooner and to some extent he dodged that question, but they will be hoping that rishi sunak and some of his cabinet ministers subsequently repeating those kinds of lines, and the conservative party digging in on this claim, will allow them to push back, that it is a lie. at the same time both leaders were asked about whether a government under them would involve tax rises of some nature, and both committing

to know extra income tax, no higher national insurance contributions are no additional vat, but the reality is, there is a lot of stuff that needs paying for and it is not much clarity right now on where the money will come from. to clarity right now on where the money will come from.— will come from. to some extent, on that we might _ will come from. to some extent, on that we might have _ will come from. to some extent, on that we might have to _ will come from. to some extent, on that we might have to wait - will come from. to some extent, on that we might have to wait until- will come from. to some extent, on that we might have to wait until the| that we might have to wait until the manifestos. what we have seen in recent days and weeks since this election was called is all the parties setting out their priority areas and the areas they want to talk about, and the policies they want to highlight, but you are right. there is what the institute for fiscal studies has called a conspiracy of silence around the state of the nation's finances, and as soon as they say we want to prioritise one thing, perhaps defence, for example, in reality, at the moment, that means if the money is there and going to be spent on defence, it means it cannot be spent elsewhere. that argument does not suit either of the main parties at

the moment to be talking about the tough choices that they would have tough choices that they would have to make, they don't want to be seen in public where they wouldn't put the money, but that is something that will become perhaps slightly clearer when the manifestos come through, something that as journalists we will have to continue to push on because the reality of the situation is, many departments, those that are so cold things like justice and transport, there are currently under the current spending plans going to have their budgets cut in the coming years, and how to get around that is a challenge for whoever forms the next government. absolutely, for now ranking. good to have you on the campaign trail with labour in portsmouth. let's speak to hannah miller, deputy director for the institute for fiscal studies. i am looking at an interview of lord gus o'donnell, he has done it with the bbc world at one programme. he

said the costing of party policies in the run—up to elections are produced using dodgy assumptions. it is the word assumption that strikes me here, until we get real costings in manifestos, that is all any of this is, an assumption?- in manifestos, that is all any of this is, an assumption? yes, i think the big thing _ this is, an assumption? yes, i think the big thing people _ this is, an assumption? yes, i think the big thing people need _ this is, an assumption? yes, i think the big thing people need to - this is, an assumption? yes, i think the big thing people need to know i this is, an assumption? yes, i think| the big thing people need to know is the big thing people need to know is the 2000 pad figure everyone has been talking about is the conservative party making assumptions about what the labour party policy is, even though the labour party had said they have not got the assumption is right. it is not an independent vigour are not very useful, it is not what we should be considered on. we should however be talking about tax rises and bigger choices because what neither the labour party or tories want to talk about is the fact they both seemingly have agreed to go ahead with the freezing personal tax thresholds in the next three years. that will be an £11 billion tax rise per year, so both parties have tax rises planned in, but they don't want to talk about them. in your previous report, as you were saying,

whoever wins the election will need to make a big choice. they will have to make a big choice. they will have to raise taxes further or cut spending, so it should be distracted by this 2000 pad figure, the bigger choices is about do you cut spending or raise taxes. it is absolutely the big choice we need to see our leaders making, and one they were not talking about last night. tt is not talking about last night. it is im ortant not talking about last night. it is important to _ not talking about last night. it is important to clarify that, particularly on those tax thresholds. laboursay particularly on those tax thresholds. labour say they will raise taxes on things like vat on private schools, they will close the non—dom tax little, that was one of theissues non—dom tax little, that was one of the issues last night, and a bigger levy on things on oil and gas to pay for public services —— tax loophole. they said some of those taxes will change, and that is how they will cost and fund all of this. we don't have as much detail from the conservatives about where the money will come from to pay for what they are promising. will come from to pay for what they are promising-— will come from to pay for what they are promising. labour do have a set of proposed — are promising. labour do have a set of proposed tax _ are promising. labour do have a set of proposed tax rises, _ are promising. labour do have a set of proposed tax rises, the _ are promising. labour do have a set of proposed tax rises, the one - are promising. labour do have a set of proposed tax rises, the one you i of proposed tax rises, the one you just mentioned there but they have a

set new spending plans that want to use that money for, so we will have to see the manifestos to see how those things add up, but they have more taxes to spend for more spending, but baked into the underlining forecast, the baseline, when the next time it starts, most departments will be facing spending cuts. it is ok raising more money to spend more stuff, but they also need to raise more money to stop the current cuts going ahead. we haven't heard from the labour party or the conservative party about what they are going to do with that, either going to let the spending cuts go ahead? so the unprotected departments see big cuts in their budgets or are they going to find more money, over and above any that has been announced so far, to plug those gaps?— those gaps? one of the things that has been doing _ those gaps? one of the things that has been doing a _ those gaps? one of the things that has been doing a lot _ those gaps? one of the things that has been doing a lot of _ those gaps? one of the things that has been doing a lot of heavy - has been doing a lot of heavy lifting is assumptions on economic growth because we know as the economy grows that generates more tax revenue, because people are doing more, the economy is functioning more productively. where does that figure in these figures? economic growth is extremely

important, it should absolutely be the policy focus that everyone is driving at because more growth would make everything easier, and it is a whole set of policies that governments can perceive that would help get our growth rate up but it is not going to happen quickly enough by enough to undo those choices we were talking about. models would make things easier, we would not have to raise taxes by as much of cut spending as much but we will not have all those problems solved by next year. nothing gets around the fact that the next government will have to make simple choices, it can cut spending is, increase taxes or briquettes and promises about borrowing in debt. it is going to have to do one of those three things. unless it gets really lucky with growth.— three things. unless it gets really lucky with growth. really important oints to lucky with growth. really important points to clarify. — lucky with growth. really important points to clarify, and _ lucky with growth. really important points to clarify, and we _ lucky with growth. really important points to clarify, and we should - lucky with growth. really important points to clarify, and we should sayj points to clarify, and we should say at this point it is about choices. there is money and it is about where that money is spent, and those are

the choices, whoever that governments may be injuly, they have to make those decisions. absolutely, we raise about £1 trillion in tax. we have lots of money to spend, it is all about choices, you can imagine a government saying i want to have low income taxes in a smaller state, or i want higher taxes in a large estate, and it is a spectrum in between those two things. what we cannot pretend it is we can cut taxes and increase spending, we have to make choices. and they are political choices because we are talking about real services, about local government, about police officers and presence and justice systems, real choices about what you want to prioritise and where you want to prioritise and where you want to prioritise and where you want to spend that money. thank you, that is helen — want to spend that money. thank you, that is helen miller. _ want to spend that money. thank you, that is helen miller. at _ want to spend that money. thank you, that is helen miller. at the _ that is helen miller. at the election debate last night, it was dominated by that contentious

conservative claim over the tax implications of labour�*s spending plans. bbc verify have been the key to the fine print. was that claim from rishi sunak in the debate last night that labour would put up household taxes by £2000, produced by the treasury? that is what the conservative leader in flight, here is what he actually said. —— is what he implied. first let's explain how that £2000 figure is generated. the tories have added up what they say are the net costs of labour spending commitments over the next four years and come to a cumulative sum of £38.5 billion. they have divided this figure by the number of households in the uk with one person working at least, 18 million and that produces a figure of £2000. but this morning a letter emerged from the chief civil servant of the treasury went into labour on the 3rd ofjune which casts further doubt on

the basis of that figure. it says the basis of that figure. it says the £38 billion figure used by the conservative party's publication conservative pa rty�*s publication includes conservative party's publication includes costs beyond those produced by the civil servants and published online by hm treasury. any costings derived from other sources or produced by other organisations should not be presented as having been produced by the civil service. and finally, i have reminded ministers and advisers that should be the case. this is important because the treasury is saying it did produce some costings of labour�*s policies but it did not produce that £38.5 billion figure, thatis produce that £38.5 billion figure, that is because of the figures were used by the tories to get to that overall total. therefore, the £2000 figure of deposit rises under a future labour government, a figure which derives from the overall total, also cannot be attributed to the treasury. so what happens if you take out the non—treasury costed elements of the tory dossier? bbc verify has coagulated it is these items at the bottom, the group

perspective plan, their pay agreement on social care and ukraine support, and they add up to £23 billion. that is a very large proportion of the extra labour spending claims by the conservatives. by the way, the assumption is fed into the costing of labour policies at the treasury were based on assumptions given to them by conservative appointed special advisers, and some of those assumptions are questionable. overall they have a host such a course of reasons to be dubious about this claim, which the dominated the debate last night. —— overall we have a host of reasons to be dubious. thank you for being with us and let me ask you, we will get into what happened last night, but what difference do these debates really make to public opinion? often, not a lot, is the actual response. we have seen a small number of occasions where it has

moved the dial a little for a while, but ultimately in the end not really, and i think we do need to be very cautious at overestimating the impact of what is a televised debate at this stage in an electoral contest. ., ., ., , contest. so, at that point at this state contest. so, at that point at this stage there _ contest. so, at that point at this stage there is — contest. so, at that point at this stage there is still _ contest. so, at that point at this stage there is still a _ contest. so, at that point at this stage there is still a long - contest. so, at that point at this stage there is still a long way i contest. so, at that point at this stage there is still a long way to j stage there is still a long way to go. everything could happen. what does your research tell us about the response to what people heard last night? we response to what people heard last niuht? ~ ., ., ., ., ., ., , night? we have done a lot of quality of work looking _ night? we have done a lot of quality of work looking at _ night? we have done a lot of quality of work looking at responses - night? we have done a lot of quality of work looking at responses from i of work looking at responses from those who are considered swing voters or people who would potentially move their vote from conservatives to another party and some of them have had to pause for thought. there are a number of companies who have done a snap polls in following up from last night's tv debates, and you can see they have views on the leaders, rishi sunak has been considered as coming up more favourably in terms of how he handled the debates, but they are

snapshots in time and we have to look at the overriding longer tracking polls to see what truly moves. the chances are the voting intention polls, were currently today labour have a 21 point lead, the fundamentals underpinned have those manchester leadership, favourability around leadership, and how people feel about the brunt of the parties and the policies, those fundamentals are still as they were. we need to wait for some of those larger voting intention polls to come out to see if there is an impact, and does that impact sustain? sustain? when we saw an impact during nick clegg's time, that has subsided by the time we got to election day. that has subsided by the time we got to election day-— to election day. what you find are the key issues — to election day. what you find are the key issues that _ to election day. what you find are the key issues that people - to election day. what you find are the key issues that people get. the key issues that people get animated about? we the key issues that people get animated about?— the key issues that people get animated about? ~ ., . ,, ., animated about? we track what the ublic are animated about? we track what the public are concerned _ animated about? we track what the public are concerned about, - animated about? we track what the public are concerned about, when i animated about? we track what the i public are concerned about, when we ask them spontaneously, what you think the biggest issues facing britain are today. the top issues

are things like the nhs, public services and the economy and cost of living, if you are a conservative 2019 photo or wear, immigration is “p 2019 photo or wear, immigration is up there. and in listening to how each of the leaders debate on the topics of immigration, the economy and defence, those are three areas which could be fundamental for some of the swing voters, those who have moved from conservatives to reform or from conservatives to labour, moved from conservatives to reform orfrom conservatives to labour, and it may impact on some of the voters that go to smaller parties. you can see what that ends up being battlegrounds and areas where they clashed me most.— battlegrounds and areas where they clashed me most. good to have your insiaht. clashed me most. good to have your insight- we — clashed me most. good to have your insight. we will— clashed me most. good to have your insight. we will talk _ clashed me most. good to have your insight. we will talk again. _ clashed me most. good to have your insight. we will talk again. there . insight. we will talk again. there are still quite a way to go on this campaign and we will check in on you on what you're pulling is telling us. —— your polling. it is the 80th

anniversary of the d—day landings. this is the war cemetery in bayeux, where a service is getting under way this evening. the graves will light up this evening. the graves will light up in honour of those who fought on the beaches. we have seen events in portsmouth marking the uk site of the english channel, the focus very much now turns to the french side of the channel. tomorrow is the 80th anniversary of those first landings, commemorations will begin very early at 7:25am, the same time the beach invasion began back in 1944. let's have a listen. applause

this year is particularly poignant because there are just 23 veterans who are travelling to normandy, five years ago 225 veterans were able to make that journey to years ago 225 veterans were able to make thatjourney to remember those who were lost there. this year at just 23, and very soon of course the events of that day 80 years ago will pass from living memory into history. let's take a listen to some of these commemorations. t history. let's take a listen to some of these commemorations.- history. let's take a listen to some of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenae of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to — of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to do _ of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to do all _ of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to do all i _ of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to do all i could, - of these commemorations. i saw it as a challenge to do all i could, to - a challenge to do all i could, to get alongside the wounded and the dying. it has meant a great deal today. most of them had faith, but some of them were very worried about what would become of their families.

studio: what we are watching right now is the scene in bayeux, this is the war cemetery, the commonwealth war graves commission cemetery. this part of two days of events taking place across the uk and france. princess and, the princess royal, just making a speech.— princess and, the princess royal, just making a speech. 5000 lay, when histo with just making a speech. 5000 lay, when history with ten _ just making a speech. 5000 lay, when history with ten feasts _ just making a speech. 5000 lay, when history with ten feasts of _ just making a speech. 5000 lay, when history with ten feasts of fire - just making a speech. 5000 lay, when history with ten feasts of fire had - history with ten feasts of fire had eaten the red era away. i am christ's boy, i cried. i bear in our hands the bread, the fishes. i hang with honey and rose this tidy right of all your wishes. on your geometry

of all your wishes. on your geometry of sleep, the chestnut and the fir tree fly, and lavender and marguerite forge with their flowers in english guide. turnout towards the bellingham town, yourjigsaws of impossible bone. and rising read rank of snow, accurate as death upon the stone. above your easy heads, my prayer as i said with syllables of clay, what gift i asked shelley bring now before i weep and walk away. take the reply the oak and moral, take ourfortune of away. take the reply the oak and moral, take our fortune of tears and live like a spendthrift lover, all we ask is the one gift you cannot

give. princess and there, what we are hearing our memories of those veterans, just 23 veterans able to make it to these commemorations at the bayeux war cemetery this year, just 23 able to make thatjourney. five years ago there were 225 who were able to make thatjourney. a really important day, a little later at the graves of those who were lost at the graves of those who were lost at d—day will be lit up. tomorrow marks the official anniversary of the d—day landings at 7:25am, there's commemorations will begin in normandy, reflecting the time the beach invasion is began back in 1940. --

beach invasion is began back in 1940. "1944. they will beach invasion is began back in 1940. —— 1944. they will take you to those events throughout the afternoon. the choir is getting under way at the 80th anniversary commemorations of d—day. as we said, the king, queen and prince of wales havejoined second world the king, queen and prince of wales have joined second world war veterans at an event in portsmouth to mark the 80th anniversary of d—day. it was the largest seaborne invasion in history with the 1944 battle laying the foundation for an allied victory. the special ceremony was narrated by helen mirren and included this fly—past of the red arrows. on the french side of the channel, a spectacular recreation of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings. frank gardner has the details. war planes from another time. memories from 80 years ago.

today, a chance to honour those men and women who took part in d—day, the operation that helped end the second world war. service chiefs, prime ministers past and present, the royalfamily and of course, the veterans. roy haywood was 19 on that day, a trooper in the sherwood rangers. i landed in on the evening of d—day, and three weeks later i was so badly damaged that they had to amputate both my legs below the knee. i returned home eventually, and i have to say that i always considered myself one of the lucky ones that survived because so many of us didn't. this was the largest ever amphibious invasion in human history, over150,000 british, us,

canadian and french troops landing on normandy's beaches under withering fire from german defenses. let us once again commit ourselves always to remember, cherish and honor those who served that day and to live up to the freedom they died for. honoring america. the us participation in the d—day landings was key. over one and a half million americans crossed the atlantic to help save europe from nazi occupation. eric bateman, a royal navy veteran, is here today with his great granddaughters. we were with the american fleet on the way to utah beach where there were ships, as far as you could see. we want to thank our great grandfather and all the veterans of d—day and the normandy landings.

without them, we would not - have the freedom we enjoy today. both: we will never forget. thank you. amid musical tributes from the band of the royal marines, a message to the troops that day in 1944 from general montgomery read by the prime minister. the time has come to deal the enemy a terrific blow in western europe. the blow will be struck by the combined sea, land and air forces of the allies. perhaps the most immortal words of this historic event were introduced today by the actor dame helen mirren. this mission for freedom was breathtaking in scale and overwhelming in complexity. quite simply, the future of the world was at stake.

we shall fight on the beaches. we still fight on the landing grounds. we shall fight in the fields and in the streets. we shall fight in the hills. we shall never surrender. frank gardener, bbc news. as we said events shifting from the uk side of the english channel over to france to normandy. let's take you to the bayeux war cemetery, and those commemorations continue. let's listen in.

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6th ofjune1944 when troops from the uk, us, canada and france landed in normandy to attack german forces. it was the day the change the outcome of the war and led to an allied victory. it's worth saying that this form part of the commemoration service getting under way there. tonight, the gravestones of the soldiers who fell will be lit up of the soldiers who fell will be lit up in sequence reflecting international nature of this conflict with troops from right around the world but particularly across the uk, us, canada and france. there are veterans from canada and the united states also in normandy this week and there will be special ceremonies for both the canadian and us fallen soldiers who took part in those d—day landings.

the commemoration will begin officially, marking at 7251 am that a fiat —— 75 officially, marking at 7251 am that a fiat -- 75 am. that officially, marking at 7251 am that a fiat —— 75 am. that began in 1944. let's bring in shirley gallagher —— charlotte gallagher. charlotte, the king and queen were there where you were this morning and overcome with emotion at times and king charles paying tribute to the courage, resilience and solidarity of veterans. resilience and solidarity of veterans-— resilience and solidarity of veterans. , ,, ., veterans. yes, king and queen looked incredibly emotional _ veterans. yes, king and queen looked incredibly emotional sat _ veterans. yes, king and queen looked incredibly emotional sat in _ veterans. yes, king and queen looked incredibly emotional sat in the - incredibly emotional sat in the royal box with the d—day veterans, especially when some of the veterans went on stage and were telling their stories. for example, roy hayward, he was just 19 when he fought a d—day and he was very badly injured.

he lost both his legs below the knee, they were amputated but he felt like it was one of the lucky ones because he survived and he got to come home and he said he was here today in portsmouth to represent those comrades who are no longer here because their stories cannot be forgotten. we also heard from the great granddaughters of one veteran who came out with their great—grandfather on stage and said thank you, we will remember. it's been an incredibly emotional day but also really uplifting, commemorating what those men and women achieved. 80 years ago here on the southsea common, this area would have been full of young troops, many of them still teenagers and some of them had never been on a beach before, they had never been on a boat before and they were preparing to set sail from normandy and they had no idea what awaited them and obviously what they achieved changed the course of history. it was the beginning of the end of the nazis in control of

europe and they saved essentially the western world, those actions that they took on d—day so an incredible achievement so emotional, uplifting, really so many feelings and senses here in portsmouth today and senses here in portsmouth today and you can see from the crowd how much they appreciated those veterans because they did get the biggest cheer and came out on stage. they got a standing ovation and the children, 900 local children from schools here in portsmouth were sat in the crowd and it was really interesting that when they came in, they were waving their flags and sharing our super excited when the veterans were telling the stories they were sat quietly, taking those stories in because that is so important, isn't it? it's never shrinking number of d—day veterans —— an evershrinking... shrinking number of d—day veterans —— an ever shrinking... and is the younger generation to know what happened and carry on those stories in this world of those veterans were saying, the needle stories and the sacrifices to be remembered. tt sacrifices to be remembered. it really is about making sure that

future generations do not forget the service of those who died 80 years ago. and you mentioned that there about how this will pass into history from living memory as the number of veterans were able to attend the ceremonies. as you were talking, wejust attend the ceremonies. as you were talking, we just saw princess and laying a wreath at their end as you said the king and queen representing the uk in portsmouth this morning. and it strikes me that was the number of living veterans dwindles, these ceremonies and events grow and grow and the number of people who want to come to martin's anniversaries grows every year and the importance —— to mark these anniversaries, and to remember what happened and to know how vital instrument those events were 80 years ago in changing the outcome of this conflict. , years ago in changing the outcome of this conflict-— this conflict. they were. it was an incredible achievement, - this conflict. they were. it was an

incredible achievement, there - this conflict. they were. it was an i incredible achievement, there were times were people for their was no way of conquering the nazis, they have so much control right across europe and it was these actions of in some cases a very young teenagers setting sail to normandy that did change the course of history. it could be a very, very different world, and it now. people need to be reminded of what happened 80 years ago and come together and commemoratives actions and people are saying it's important that history does not repeat itself and they remember what happened 80 years ago and europe was in control, how the nazis had control of europe and how i could never be repeated again. a hugely important to remember what happened and you can tell by the vast age range of people here today that you did have people in their hundreds and 90s but you also have young children and when the veterans, some of them set sail for normandy yesterday, there were lots

of people lining the harbour in portsmouth to wave them off. people brought their children, grandchildren, great—grandchildren and were saying how important it was that these people were remembered and also to be commemorated on their special day when they were setting sail to pay tribute to their fallen comrades, essentially. hugely, hugely significant moment and this will probably be the last significant anniversary when there is such a large number of veterans. every year it goes down. this will be a significant anniversary and we have a big group of them together. charlotte, we tend to focus on both sides of the channel here. britain and france. and what that meant for the outcome of this war. it's also worth pointing out that this was such an international effort, wasn't it? and we know tomorrow kenny r rate the canadians will host our ceremony and the americans at omaha

beach and that will be celebrated with 25 heads of state and joe biden will be there. and it was an international effort in the face of that offensive from nazi germany. yes, it was. the allied nations were vast and the number and the troops that set sail for normandy on that day made up of different countries, lots of british soldiers, a of canadians and lots of american soldiers and today, here in portsmouth, the allied nations were represented in the audience and we had troops from new zealand, troops from australia, america, canada, france and lots and an international flavour here in portsmouth because this was notjust one country achieving this on its own, it was a huge, huge international effort and the french resistance in france, when the troops landed, they played their part against nazi germany so i

hugely, hugely significant and historical moment for lots of nations right across the world, remembering ancestors that have now departed that took part perhaps in those monumental events and those still with us but huge, huge international effort. the largest seaborne invasion as well in history, a huge number of people took part in that and when they jumped off those boats, a lot of those young men, they had no idea what they were going to face. many couldn't even swim in the jumping off the boats into water france with no idea what they were going to expect and then some of them had to scale a cliff when they got there so huge feats of human sacrifice, essentially. here in portsmouth they were kept in camps in woods before that even sets out to normandy in those camps were sealed so people didn't know what was going on and so german spies could not get in or get an idea of the fact that british

troops were setting sail so they were kept isolated for a long time and then taken here and put on boats and then taken here and put on boats and taken to normandy and assumes the boat dropped off, a group of soldiers, they were back over to pick moore up so it was this massive effort and it wasn't just one pick moore up so it was this massive effort and it wasn'tjust one day. the fighting continued in normandy for months but it really did turn the tide and paris was liberated that year months later. charlotte, for now, thanks _ that year months later. charlotte, for now, thanks very _ that year months later. charlotte, for now, thanks very much - that year months later. charlotte, for now, thanks very much with i that year months later. charlotte, i for now, thanks very much with the details there for us live from the british side of these commemorations. charlotte gallagher our correspondent. we showed you princess and reading earlier at this war ceremony in france and she read a pawn. —— poem. that pollan was describing the shock of this sheer number of gravestones —— poem... and

the young age of those who died and what will happen later to let you know how this will play out, this is the official start of the ceremony at the war ceremony —— cemetery. there will be a lighting of those grey stones in honour of those who fought on the beaches and then tomorrow, individual events to commemorate the first landings at 7:25am, to safe time that the beach invasion began back in 1944. if you want to watch the ceremony from the war cemetery is on tonight on the website. let's return to events with the uk general election. conservatives have labour have been... the conservatives have defended a key accusation about labour's tax plans — which rishi sunak used repeatedly against sir keir starmer — in last night's first

televised election debate. it comes after a letter from the most senior treasury civil servant said the claim — that labour policies would amount to a £2,000 tax rise on households — should not be presented as having been costed by the independent civil service. labour said the figure was "a lie", but this afternoon the tories insisted they stood by their claim. this report from our political correspondentjessica parker. the snp has accused rishi sunak and keir starmer are forgetting about scotland as it was not mentioned once in the course of let my�*s debate. this take you to edinburgh always speak to their deputy leader. good to have you with us. rishi sunak and keir starmer would argue that they were talking for the whole of the uk but that's not how you see it, is it? . of the uk but that's not how you see it, is it? , . ., .,, of the uk but that's not how you see it, isit? , .., it, is it? this election was called at the start _ it, is it? this election was called at the start of _ it, is it? this election was called at the start of the _ it, is it? this election was called at the start of the school- it, is it? this election was called i at the start of the school holidays in scotland and that would not have happened in england and never has before. also we had not one single mention of scotland, despite at least keir starmer saying that all roads to downing street lead from

scotland but was not once a reference to scotland what we are seeing is as conspiracy of silence on the issues which are very important scotland. brexit was not mentioned and is having a massive impact here in terms ofjobs, exports and companies. there was no mention of austerity in the fact that both parties are committed to tax rises and to continuing austerity for things which are really important to scotland, not least of coarse cotton being in the european championships, which again did not get a mention although the english national team did. all the things that were important scotland were completely ignored and are symptomatic of the selection. ierrai’hezit symptomatic of the selection. what do ou symptomatic of the selection. what do you make _ symptomatic of the selection. what do you make of _ symptomatic of the selection. what do you make of the _ symptomatic of the selection. what do you make of the debate last night? there was some discussion around the format of it and whether it contributed anything or whether we learned anything new about what these two leaders stand for. you are not included in this one. are these debates helpful do you think? i

don't think last night one was a big shout tea and fractious and didn't want any depth in relation to issues. �* ., want any depth in relation to issues. . ., ., ., ,, , issues. and for scotland, the issues discussed in — issues. and for scotland, the issues discussed in terms _ issues. and for scotland, the issues discussed in terms of _ issues. and for scotland, the issues discussed in terms of education - issues. and for scotland, the issues discussed in terms of education and j discussed in terms of education and health, they are already reserved and that kind of highlights got an's position. we have to wait and see what the rest of the uk will do in terms of the budget and what they believe is important for health and education before we know what happens in scotland. it is a consequence and is literally called consequential is. i don't think it was a good debate, it wasn't informative and to say spill—over about accusations of lying and so on, i don't think it's very gratifying for the audience trying to get the bottom of some of these issues but it's an absolute scandal that they sought to exclude scotland's major party, the part of the scottish government and the third largest party.— third largest party. there was a se arate third largest party. there was a separate debate _ third largest party. there was a separate debate on _ third largest party. there was a separate debate on stv - third largest party. there was a separate debate on stv and . third largest party. there was a separate debate on stv and we third largest party. there was a - separate debate on stv and we talked about it here in the bbc there was a

section two separate election debate on the 11th ofjune. it's important that everybody here... what struck me but last night and just the first of those leaders debates was honesty and trust was thrust right to the centre of it and i claim over tax, the £2000 tax rise that rishi sunak said a keir starmer government will deliverfor households. said a keir starmer government will deliver for households. that has been denied by labour and the conservatives stand by it and we have had in various people from the civil service saying this is not what we said. it all comes down to trust and honesty in this campaign, doesn't it, and right from the get go we have allegations of lying and deceit. . �* . . go we have allegations of lying and deceit. ., �* , ., ., , deceit. that's right and that is very destructive _ deceit. that's right and that is very destructive of _ deceit. that's right and that is very destructive of trust - deceit. that's right and that is very destructive of trust and i deceit. that's right and that is . very destructive of trust and trust is very much at a premium given what we have seen over the last 14 years in terms of austerity, brexit, the pandemic, the lack of trust has been of the government telling people to do very severe things during the

pandemic while ignoring that as well. trust also in terms of conservative government would sign international treaties and then drop them afterwards. and then admitted in never intended to honour those treaties. i think you are right to say trust was not in evidence last night and there nothing there to build trust either from labour or from the conservatives, it struck me as very surprising that labour could not win a debate against a beleaguered and discredited tory government of 14 years. but again, it doesn't registerfor government of 14 years. but again, it doesn't register for scotland and they were really important issues for scotland such as the way out of inequality, low wages, the worst pensions of part of the world and this did not register and it seems to be a conspiracy of silence and the tax increases and your programme said they will come through the freezing of personal allowances. and the silence of brexit and austerity. these were things that made it a worthless debate for people notjust in scotland the rest of the uk. tt’s

in scotland the rest of the uk. it's aood to in scotland the rest of the uk. it's good to have you with us this afternoon, keith brown, the snp deputy leader. we've been talking about life in the campaign trail and a woman has been charged with assault by beating after a milkshake was thrown over nigel farage. images appear to show a drink thrown at the reform uk leader as he left a pub in essex on tuesday. he was then later saying with that drink splattered right across his suit as he got on the campaign bus. essex police say a 25 are a woman has been charged. we will return to all things elections later but is 12 minutes to five and in india, narendra modi is on course for his third term as prime minister. his bjp party has been meeting allied parties in the capital delhi with an aim to form a new government. that's after the bjp fell short of winning an absolute majority for the first time in ten years. he is

likely to be sworn in as leader later this week. i spoke to the bbc�*s delhi correspondent a little earlier and he gave me the latest on these talks from delhi.— these talks from delhi. members of these talks from delhi. members of the bjp alliance _ these talks from delhi. members of the bjp alliance have _ these talks from delhi. members of the bjp alliance have elected - the bjp alliance have elected narendra modi as president and head of the alliance so it's clear that the alliance members of this grouping are very much within this grouping are very much within this grouping and have elected narendra modi as leader so he will be staking claim with the support of its alliance members. they said this was alliance members. they said this was a mandate, a historic mandate for the alliance and this is the result of policies of the last ten years that have been carried out by the government. but the other hand by the opposition alliance has said in a statement that the verdict of the people by way of the results we have

is against prime minister narendra modi simply because the bjp on its own failed to cross the halfway figure of 272. the fact they have only got 2442 2240 seats means they have rejected the seeds of narendra modi into bjp so that means that one part of the statement —— 240 seats... they said they are inviting all parties which have similar views on the fundamental principles of the opposition stands for to come together so in a sense it's an open invitation to any other possible ally who could come to them which could help give them the numbers but given the current political scenario it seems unlikely the opposition will be able to get any more numbers in the statement i told you coming in the statement i told you coming in from the ruling alliance seems to suggest that. prime minister narendra modi is all set to form the next government with his allies.

and this is not the position narendra modi wanted to be in or expected to find himself in. and it raises questions about his ability to push through some reforms, particularly economic, that were planned and were in his ma nifesto. explain what may prove to be more difficult now given its an alliance and not a majority. absolutely. in 2014, the bjp had 282 seats in 2019 the head 303 and they did not have to rely on any alliance partners but then the picture is different now with only 240 so they are well short of the halfway figure of 272 which means there will be a lot of consensus required because india is back to a coalition politics era so parties will have to get together and whenever there is reform a policy that needs to be pushed through parliament they will have to sit together and bring all views together, merge consensus and then move ahead which is something the bjp hasn't had to do in ten years and stopping the opposition

—— something the opposition... has protested from time to time because the government had an absolute majority and so significantly, what is also important is narendra modi, as a politician, in his 25 year long career as a chief minister first and then as prime minister of the country for the last ten years, he has always headed an absolute majority government. he has never headed a coalition government so this is going to be a first, which is why it is all the more significant to understand how an injury modi, the politician, —— narendra modi... figures out this new territory and something he has never had to deal with, never had to think twice about what policy needs to be pushed through, he has always been, in a sense, the final word. much more than that for you and the dot co .uk. it's eight minutes to five and coronation st actress has said she will leave the itv soap after starring as gail platt for 50

years. she will celebrate her governor adversary on the show and then step down at the end of the year. it will follow a major storyline for the platt family. the actor said it was the perfect time to leave what she called the most wonderfuljob in the world. this talk to our arts correspondent david sillitoe. that's quite an exit after 50 years and onejob sillitoe. that's quite an exit after 50 years and one job and sillitoe. that's quite an exit after 50 years and onejob and i iconic character and she is off. 50 years and one job and i iconic character and she is off.- character and she is off. people have been _ character and she is off. people have been born, _ character and she is off. people have been born, grown - character and she is off. people have been born, grown up - character and she is off. people have been born, grown up andl character and she is off. people . have been born, grown up and they are now middle—aged and gail has been there from the very beginning and coronation street. i have been doing some research and not only has she been on coronation street, she has lived in before, five, 83 times, number 11 and 15 which is a fish and others were now is the bedsit above the cornershop. we say gail platt, she has been gail platt, gill tyldesley, gail mcintyre, gail rodwell. six marriages and three

divorces and three widowed in various circumstances. helen worth has been a part of british life and in the 1960s and 70s, coronation street was every year at the most watched tv programme on british tv. you're talking audience of 18 million so people have lived with her, seen her in all these incredible storylines and if you are going to top it with the final storyline, i'd be amazed. not only was her first husband storyline, i'd be amazed. not only was herfirst husband murdered, she then married a serial killer and the attempt to murder her and then even when she moved into the granny flat there was a dead body underneath that, another person murdered so she has had many amazing storylines. a part of british life and coming to an end. we have been told july is when the final scene is filmed but probably only shown later this year but full details have not yet been revealed. �* ., .,

revealed. david, i'm loving all the statistics. but _ revealed. david, i'm loving all the statistics. but our _ revealed. david, i'm loving all the statistics. but our arts _ statistics. but our arts correspondent. she appeared in the sub 4453 times, not far short of the record held by william bill roache who has done 4773, quite a career. 50 years of gail platt. let's turn our attention elsewhere because climate scientists say there are five years left to limit global temperature rise to 1.5 celsius above preindustrial levels. the threshold has been agreed in paris and it was done so in 2015 and is considered to be crucial to avoid the most catastrophic impacts of climate change. all of this is the un chief antonio guterres is expected the native strand of climate negotiations in germany that the world is not doing enough to switch away from coal, oil and gas. our environment correspondent told us what is the end in that report. this is filling in the gaps if you like of the overall science that the

un puts out every number of years. it's a new report this year and says essentially that the level of warming we are seeing now has never been higher. warming is going up by 0.25 degrees or 0.26 degrees every decade and is a faster rate of increase than it was between 1970 and 2010. overall, the picture is at last year the world warmed by 1.5 degrees or 1.4 degrees of which 90% was caused by humans and about 8% caused by the el nino climate and weather phenomenon. the bigger picture is we are continuing to produce emissions and those warming gases that drive temperatures up and the report highlights the fact that we are burning through our budget very rapidly and on their calculations we would have five years on par until 2029 and we would have used enough carbon deposits over the 1.5 degrees threshold that was agreed in paris. matt over the 1.5 degrees threshold that was agreed in paris.— was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath s-ueakin. was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath speaking- if _ was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath speaking. if check _ was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath speaking. if check what _ was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath speaking. if check what the - was agreed in paris. matt mcgrath i speaking. if check what the weather is doing and ben has the details. we

haven't had many days recently where temperatures were below the seasonal average but that is the situation across most parts of the uk today and while we have seen some spells of sunshine, we have also seen quite a few showers, especially across northern areas. the showers have even brought something wintry over the highest ground in scotland, over the tops of the highest mountains, some thunder, some lightning mixing in with those showers blowing in on that brisk west or northwesterly winds. further south, though, not as many showers and with strong sunshine at this time of year, 17 degrees while a touch below par still doesn't feel too bad. tonight, a zone of cloud, maybe some showery rain pushing eastwards across england and wales. further north, where we hold on to clearer skies, it will again be quite a cold night for the time of year. some spots in the north of england and in scotland may get quite close to freezing tomorrow. this zone of cloud and the odd

shower pushing across central and south eastern parts of england. and then we're back to sunshine and showers. the showers most plentiful across northern areas. the odd heavy one, the odd thundery one still quite windy here, just ten degrees for lerwick and around 17 degrees in london and in plymouth. now as we head into friday, this area of low pressure still swirling to the north of the uk looks set to throw this frontal system southwards that will bring a band of rain southwards across scotland, getting into northern ireland, far north of england, breaking up into showers, further showers following on behind and then further south, more, more in the way of cloud. at this stage, again, the odd shower, a few brighter glimpses. temperatures may be nudging upwards a little bit, 19 degrees there for london, 14 in aberdeen. and it's our area of low pressure that will, i think, win out for the weekend. high pressure trying to build from the west, but not having a huge amount of success. it does mean that where you're closest to that high across the south and the west of the uk, there will be fewer showers, more sunshine, whereas further north and east

towards the centre of that area of low pressure, we will see frequent showers and it will still be quite breezy and if anything on the cool side for the time of year, very similar weather on sunday. still rather cool. some showers particularly in the north, drier weather further south.

live from london. this is bbc news. commemorations for d—day. bagpipes rang out through the bayeux war cemetary. two days of events — in britain and france — to mark the 80th anniversary of d—day have begun in portsmouth,

attended by veterans and the king and queen. in normandy, parachutists have staged a spectacular recreation of the airborne assault that accompanied the historic beach landings. and labour says the prime minister is lying, over the cost of sir keir starmer�*s tax plans. the conservatives stand by their figures. in the last hour the labour leader has responded. flash of his character, and insight into his character, to lies. and i don't say that lightly. as he faces a vote of no—confidence, vaughan gething is seen in tears in the senedd. and it's lift off for boeing's starliner — with two nasa astronauts on board. hello, i'm ben thompson. the king and queen, and the prince of wales, have joined second world war veterans at an event in portsmouth to mark this week's 80th

anniversary of d—day. the normandy landings were the largest seaborne invasion in history, with the 1944 battle laying the foundation for an allied victory. the special ceremony was narrated by dame helen mirren — and included a fly—past by the red arrows. on the french side of the channel a spectacular recreation has been taking place — of the airborne assault that accompanied the beach landings. our correspondent frank gardner reports. in the last few minutes the princess royaljoined the commemorations at the bayeux royal cemetery. let's speak to frank gardner now. it was a pointed sermon it with the king and queen getting emotional at a time hearing the stories of those who fought and died at d—day. tithe

who fought and died at d-day. one of the most poignant _ who fought and died at d-day. one of the most poignant comments - who fought and died at d-day. one of the most poignant comments and - the most poignant comments and tributes came from the great granddaughters of a royal navy sailor who had served on board hms airbus, and who in unison said thank you for your service. there were some incredible attributes and incredible accounts given by 99 and 100 euros, and you have to remember that this event was unprecedented. the largest ever amphibious invasion in human history, getting somewhere between 150000 and 180,000 men and their equipment, and it was men but woman certainly played a part in it evenif woman certainly played a part in it even if they were not landing on the beaches, they were a vital part, but operation overlord turned the course of history and reverse the nazi occupation of europe and was, to paraclete —— paraphrase winston churchill, it wasn't the but the beginning of the end, though he used

that phrase early on in the war. the men who were charge and assured, often into a hail of machine gun fire, these were 18—year—olds, 19—year—olds and others, would never fired a shot, so the service at bayeux attended by the princess royal and others was a poignant one because it is not only the atheists anniversary and therefore a special one, it is quite possibly the last one, it is quite possibly the last one in which we will see any numbers of survivors of that incredible day, and the conflict that followed in normandy as the allied forces pushed eastwards and northeast up through france, new britain paris, going on to liberate belgium and the netherlands and eventually pushing on into germany, but first they had that bitter winter camping in the our dens, to contend with. looking

at those images _ our dens, to contend with. looking at those images at _ our dens, to contend with. looking at those images at the _ our dens, to contend with. looking at those images at the princess . at those images at the princess royal and the prints they known wreaths earlier, and she wrote out a point regarding a soldiers thoughts on the number of gravestones, and you touch on the young age of those who died, and is worth remembering, and we will see that in the special sermon it tonight when the graves are lit up in sequence, ofjust how many died, how young these men were, but also quite how international this effort was. forces and troops from so many different nationalities played a very crucial role in the events on those beaches 80 years ago. events on those beaches 80 years a . o. events on those beaches 80 years a t o, ., ., , events on those beaches 80 years a . o. ., ., , ~ . ., events on those beaches 80 years aeo. ., ., , ~ ., ago. the ma'ority were american and british and ago. the majority were american and british and canadian _ ago. the majority were american and british and canadian and _ ago. the majority were american and british and canadian and french, - ago. the majority were american and british and canadian and french, but| british and canadian and french, but you are right, over one dozen countries were represented. it is interesting, the sermon he covered for the one o'clock news today in

portsmouth was pain special tribute to the americans. there was a swing band and a performance there, because the us input was absolutely key to this stop there is no way that this could've worked without the americans, and every serviceman was issued with a letter onjune six, i actually have a copy of it in my father's war diary because he crossed over a few days after the day, which was a personal letter from general eisenhower, the supreme allied commander, who was basically the final supreme, dirt behind this operation. it was risky, and remember it was supposed to happen the day before but the weather was impossible, they could not do it, but one of the keys to the success was the deception plan. they managed to for the nazi's that the invasion, and the germans were expecting it,

but they were expecting it further north, they did not expect it right there, and to some extent it took there, and to some extent it took the germans bite surprise and despite that over 4400 serviceman still lost their lives on that first day from the allied troops, and then around 9000 were injured or wounded, some of them with life—changing injuries, and at the service tonight that you are seeing pictures of there, there have been accounts read out, for example, by a chaplain at the time who said some of the men did not have any faith, some did, and said hejust did not have any faith, some did, and said he just try to comfort those who were obviously dying, who had critical we —— wounds on those days. had critical we -- wounds on those da s. ., ., , , �* , days. you mentioned this, but it's worth reminding _ days. you mentioned this, but it's worth reminding ourselves - days. you mentioned this, but it's worth reminding ourselves that i days. you mentioned this, but it's i worth reminding ourselves that there were just 23 veterans who were able to travel to normandy for these events for the anniversary. very soon, sadly, this will pass into

history rather than living memory, which is why these commemorations are so important to remind other generations of the sacrifice and loss of that war torn generation. yes, it is, and i think one of the most touching things about this is seen that families there, the sons and daughters and grandsons and granddaughters and great—grandchildren of those who served, so there are many cases where the meadows. it still touches them. forthose where the meadows. it still touches them. for those 23 you mentioned, you can see it in their accounts and their eyes, they remember it's. in many cases, they don't want to remember it. those beaches, some of them were not as intense as others but it still must�*ve been absolutely terrifying. remember, most of these troops had not been on the continent

but in training camps in southern britain in many cases. many of them had never heard a shot fired in angen had never heard a shot fired in anger, they had been on ranges, but no one had ever shot at them, and when those ramps went on on the landing craft and tragically at some of them did not even reach the beaches, they were weighed down by equipment, sometimes the ramps of the landing craft went down too early and they drowned, weighed down by their equipment, and those who hit the beaches were looking for whatever cover they could, and desperately trying to make a beachhead and press forward and take out the german bunkers. it should be mentioned that the germans lost a similar number, and some years ago i went with friends on a bicycle ride to paris, a five day ride, and it was incredibly moving to pass by all of these war cemeteries, and at one

point, as far as i could see, where white crosses. we happen to be there onjune six, on d—day, and a us air force plane, a transport plane, came out of the setting sun and just dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank ou dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank you for— dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank you for talking _ dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank you for talking to - dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank you for talking to us, - dipped its wings in tribute. frank thank you for talking to us, frank gardner there, thank you for talking to us, frank gardnerthere, or thank you for talking to us, frank gardner there, or defence correspondent. let's go to our reporter victoria bourne, who's in normandy. victoria, frank was describing really emotional moments of all of these commemorations that would mean so much to so many people to the veterans and their families and everyone touched by the stories. the king and queen getting emotional at times today as well. where you are today much more a feeling of celebration away from the sombre ceremonies elsewhere. it is a

celebration of the victories and what d—day meant for that allied victory. what d-day meant for that allied victo . . . what d-day meant for that allied victo . ., , , ,., victory. that is right, in person or, one victory. that is right, in person or. one of _ victory. that is right, in person or, one of the _ victory. that is right, in person or, one of the first _ victory. that is right, in person or, one of the first french - victory. that is right, in person| or, one of the first french town victory. that is right, in person i or, one of the first french town to be liberated by the british forces on d—day. it was situated on the beach, cold —— code named old by those leading the envision. here, much more relaxed and people are celebrating the allied campaign, and people come here, hundreds fokker every year to mark the occasion and is quite the hive of activity on the beach behind that you can see dutch troops holding their own so many but as it is more informal here in the main commemoration events are not being held here people aren't soaking up the atmosphere, and you are more likely to see people dressed up in world war ii era costumes. for instance, some of the uniforms, you see them regularly,

19405 uniforms, you see them regularly, 1940s music being played and bags of pipers also turned up, and vintage planes flying overhead. it is a different atmosphere to those other commemorative events. a bit earlier today i spoke to brigadier mike who is made is on specialjourney to normandy. well, about a year ago, we borrowed field marshall montgomery's rolls—royce from the royal logistical museum to do charity runs at car fest, where i bumped into richard hammond. we got talking about the car. he and his team absolutely fell in love with the car. and we agreed that he would restore the car in time for d—day 80, so that we could bring it to france and reunite it with the veterans, with the french people. and what was that like? because this is not an insignificant vehicle. no, this is a very significant vehicle. this vehicle was hand—picked by winston churchill to be used by field marshal montgomery as swiftly as possible after d—day so that it built

confidence in the allied forces and gave a sense of victory and permanency. to the french people as well as our own troops. and the car was brought over juno beach three days past d—day 80 years ago. yeah. so this is a really special vehicle. what was it like to actually drive it? because, you know, with these vintage motors, they don't necessarily run smoothly. no, it's magic. she runs like a dream, and she runs like a rolls—royce should. and because of her presence and what she stands for, it's really quite emotional. you know, even if people don't actually realise the history of the car, they're looking at, the warm reception it receives long before they might recognise richard hammond in either the driver's seat or the passenger seat, itjust gives a real sense ofjoy, which is, of course, exactly what it was meant to do when it was brought to france 80 years ago. and talking about the 80th anniversary, this year feels particularly pertinent because it might be one of the last

that we have. the d—day veterans here for. d—day 80 is hugely important. sadly, the great living veterans are, i'm afraid, dwindling in numbers. and so it's really important that their legacy is understood and passed on to the younger generations. so the more that we can spread the message of what it took, the vast enterprise, the heroism to be able to achieve victory here, the more likely we are to avoid the situation where it might happen again. so d—day is all about legacy as much as commemoration and a degree of a degree of celebration to. now, that legacy is key in here. earlier on, a french buyer of more than 100 choristers sang songs of liberty to show their gratitude to the allied forces, and that's the

feeling echoed notjust in normandy but across the whole of france. thank you, victoria. good to have you there in arromanches, and she's worth seeing those commemorations will continue, there is live coverage of the events in bayeux cemetery on bbc one tonight. the conservatives have defended a key accusation about labour's tax plans which rishi sunak used repeatedly against sir keir starmer in last night's first televised election debate. it comes after a letter from the most senior treasury civil servant said the claim that labour policies would amount to a £2,000 tax rise for households should not be presented as having been costed by the independent civil service. labour said the figure was "a lie" but this afternoon the tories insisted they stood by their claim. helen miller is deputy director for the institute for fiscal studies. she says the conservatives and labour have tax hikes in their long—term plan

and avoided discussing them in last night's debate. whoever wins the election is going to need to make a really big choice. they're basically going to have to raise taxes further or cut spending. i think we shouldn't be distracted by this this £2,000 figure. the bigger choice is there about do you cut spending or do you raise taxes is absolutely the big choice that we need to see our leaders making, and one that they weren't talking about, really, last night. yeah, it's important to clarify that, particularly on those tax thresholds. now, labour say that they will raise taxes on things like the vat, on private schools. they say they will fully close the non—dom tax loophole. that was one of the issues in that debate last night. a bigger levy on things like oil and gas to pay for public services. so they say that some of those taxes will change, and that's how they will cost and fund all of this. we don't have as much detail yet from the conservatives, though, about where the money will come from to pay for what they are promising. well, i think its two different issues there. so, you're right. so labour do have a set

of proposed tax rises, the ones you just mentioned there, but they also have a set of new spending plans that they want to use that money for. so we'll have to see the manifestos to see exactly how those things add up. but they have more taxes to spend for more spending. but baked into the underlying forecast, the baseline, is that when the next parliament starts, most in many departments will be facing spending cuts. so it's ok raising more money to spend more stuff, but you also need to raise even more money to stop the current cuts going ahead. so we haven't heard from either the labour party or the conservative party about what they're going to do with that. are they going to let those spending cuts go ahead so that unprotected departments see big cuts in their budgets, or are they going to find more money over and above anything that's been announced so far to plug those gaps? yeah, one of the things that's doing quite a lot of heavy lifting in all of this, too, is assumptions on economic growth, because we know as the economy grows that generates more tax revenue, doesn't it? just because people are doing more, the economy is functioning more productively. where does that figure

in any of these figures? so economic growth is extremely important. it should absolutely be the policy focus that everyone is driving it because more growth would make everything easier, and there are a whole set of policies that governments could pursue that would help get our growth rate up. but it's not going to happen quickly enough or by enough to undo those choices we were talking about. so more growth would make things easier. we wouldn't have to raise taxes by as much or cut spending by as much, but we're not going to have all those problems solved next year, even if growth starts going up. so there's nothing, nothing gets around the fact that the government, the next government is going to have to make really quite a simple choice. it has three choices. it can cut spending, it can increase taxes, or it can break its own promises about borrowing and debt. it's going to have to do one of those three things unless it gets really lucky with growth. i think we really need to hear from the leaders which of those three paths they plan to take. yeah, really important points to clarify. and i suppose we should say

as well at this point that it is about choices. there is money and it's about where that money is spent. and those are the choices that the government, whoever that government may be injuly, they have to make those decisions. absolutely. we raise about £1,000,000,000,000 in tax. you know, we have lots of money to spend. it's all it's all about choices. you can imagine a government saying, i want to have lower taxes in a smaller state. you can imagine a government saying, i want higher taxes in a larger state. and there is obviously a spectrum in between those two things. what we can't pretend is that we can cut taxes and increase spending. we can't have it both ways. we have to make choices and they are really difficult choices because we're talking here about real services, about local government, about police officers and prisons and justice systems. there are real choices about what you want to prioritise and where you want to spend that money. and we don't go pretending that we can't make those difficult choices. let's speak to conservative party spokesperson, richard graham. good to have you with us. the prime

minister is accused of lying. the labour party has said he breached the ministerial code because he lied and he lied deliberately. he lied, didn't he? t and he lied deliberately. he lied, didn't he? ., �* ~' and he lied deliberately. he lied, didn't he? ., �* ,, , , didn't he? i don't think this is the wa to didn't he? i don't think this is the way to sort _ didn't he? i don't think this is the way to sort of— didn't he? i don't think this is the way to sort of engage _ didn't he? i don't think this is the way to sort of engage on - didn't he? i don't think this is the way to sort of engage on this. . didn't he? i don't think this is the | way to sort of engage on this. the bottom line of everything is that labour has made various commitments in the public domain, so the biggest one by a long way is the green energy plan, which was costed at 28 billion, they are now reduced to 23.7 billion, that is theirfigure in the public domain, so what the conservative party special advisers and treasury have done is estimate what the cost of that would be her head in the country as a whole, and they have come up with this figure ofjust they have come up with this figure of just over they have come up with this figure ofjust over £2000. i think their calculation is online and everybody is available to look at it. if the labour party has a problem with it they should challenge those calculations and say what their figure would be, but to say that

this was drawn up by special advisers in the treasury rather than civil servants in the treasury which makes it invalid seems to be from the point of view from my constituents i've spoken to to be nit—picky. constituents i've spoken to to be nit- ic . , ., , constituents i've spoken to to be nit-ic . , ., , nit-picky. the question is about trust and honesty, _ nit-picky. the question is about trust and honesty, you - nit-picky. the question is about trust and honesty, you caught l nit-picky. the question is aboutj trust and honesty, you caught it nit—picky and not the way to approach us, but we are in early days of this election campaign and what people want to hear up from their politicians is honesty and to be able to trust them. they want to navigate what the promises are from the different parties and who will get their vote. the labour party has sent the letter from the treasury, saying that they should not be presented as having been produced by the civil service, and repeatedly last night, i think 12 times, rishi sunak said this was based on figures compiled by the treasury. that's just not true, is it? t compiled by the treasury. that's just not true, is it?— just not true, is it? i don't know exact how _ just not true, is it? i don't know exact how many _ just not true, is it? i don't know exact how many of _ just not true, is it? i don't know exact how many of the figures i just not true, is it? i don't know- exact how many of the figures came from the labour party did correctly and which came from treasury, but

what is quite true, i agree, the presentation and production, which i think is a point the treasury civil servant was making, was done by special advisers rather than civil servants. if that needs clarifying, i am sure the prime minister will be happy to clarify, but what most people are more interested is, is the basic figure correct as a calculation of what the labour party policy will cost? until i have seen something that actually refutes the figure, that is the point that needs to be addressed because most of my constituents do not want to see their taxes rising in order to fulfil what looks frankly neck an unfulfilled of the dream of trying to reach that zero targets by 2030 with green energy policies from ed miliband. �* ., ., , with green energy policies from ed miliband. 1, ., , .., miliband. both leaders committed last niuht miliband. both leaders committed last night to _ miliband. both leaders committed last night to not _ miliband. both leaders committed last night to not raising _ miliband. both leaders committed last night to not raising vat- miliband. both leaders committed last night to not raising vat our. last night to not raising vat our national insurance tax, what libra said they will increase tax through non—dumb closing the loop laws, and

other areas and it's important because what both parties did not talk about was about thresholds on income tax which would drag more people into pentax, and that was not discussed last night. so it is not about everyone being honest about sex, including the conservatives. everyone needs to be straightforward, and you need to ask labour politicians about their plans for capital teens —— capital gains tax, shares that are held, there'll be a range of issues, though the attacks of nash/ a property tax if laboured gets in, but those are questions you can ask them. what you got from us was a clear statement of intent are national insurance, which is a direction of travel, and we've already laid down to tasters as to what that would look like, but that is not the same as saying we are going to spend 23.7 billion on grinch and —— energy over the next

three years where you can specifically cost the impact i had in the country. the one thing the institute for government did not mention in their contrition earlier, there is a third element, which is growth, and growth is what builds a country out of the dirt of the most of spending or having tax cuts and if our growth continues to exceed expectations, we were the fastest country in the g7 with growth this year, if we can keep on doing that our growth would be better and will be able to fund the tax cuts earlier than some people can imagine. that is other crucial ingredient. everyone is open economic growth will help resolve some of those tax issues because if the economy is going it helps make those tax revenues better. the reason i want to press you on this is because this is fundamentally about fair dealing, it's about honesty, and i think conservatives, correct me if i'm wrong, it strikes me that the plan last night was that throughout the

issue of tax to get everybody talking about tax and make the connection in peoples minds that labour meant higher taxes, whether it is true or not was not the point. it was about creates enough doubt and vagueness in the minds of the voters that they would think labour and tax, that is not what this discussion is about, is it? t and tax, that is not what this discussion is about, is it? ithink it is exactly _ discussion is about, is it? ithink it is exactly about _ discussion is about, is it? ithink it is exactly about that _ discussion is about, is it? ithink it is exactly about that because i discussion is about, is it? ithink| it is exactly about that because it is clear to me and everybody certainly here in gloucester, that the new labour government would tax more, and some people think that might be a good idea much more tax in order to fund public services, there's a perception in some places that some public services are underfunded even though the evidence shows there's been an almost double the funding in the nhs from when we inherited in 2010, and there are some people who believe more spending on public services is a goodidea spending on public services is a good idea and have more taxes to do thatis good idea and have more taxes to do that is right thing. there are other

people, most of whom who are sympathetic to the conservatives, that everyone is being taxed in light of the moment, most of it is through indirect taxes as much as anything else, and therefore we do not want to increase the tax burden on individuals, we want people to decide how they spend their money themselves. the tax burden, if you look at personal income tax, national insurance, it is lowered since 1975. tt national insurance, it is lowered since 15375-— since 1975. it does not take into account income _ since 1975. it does not take into account income tax _ since 1975. it does not take into account income tax thresholds i since 1975. it does not take into . account income tax thresholds that the been for those frozen. that text social and income _ the been for those frozen. that text social and income taxes _ the been for those frozen. that text social and income taxes doubled . the been for those frozen. that text i social and income taxes doubled from what he was in 2010, it's the head of inflation, even though we have frozen it for the last two or three years because of the impact on pandemic on public finances, so we have done it not to reduce the burden of taxes, which people do not grasp, but there are other taxes

that mean yes, overall, the tax burden is high, that is why we want to bring it down.— burden is high, that is why we want to bring it down. thank you, richard graham, conservative _ to bring it down. thank you, richard graham, conservative party- to bring it down. thank you, richard . graham, conservative party spokesman richard graham there, and with all of these things, if for list of candidates standing all the constituents throughout the day here on bbc news, you can find it on the bbc news website will stop let's speak to lucy dunn, diary reporter for the spectator. the chevy with us. let's start with the chevy with us. let's start with theissue the chevy with us. let's start with the issue of the debate last night, the issue of the debate last night, the first of the leaders debate, and it was a bit brought and fractious and tense, what did you make of what we heard? we did not burn any huge amount that was new, did we? tt you amount that was new, did we? if you look at the foreman _ amount that was new, did we? if you look at the foreman of _ amount that was new, did we? if you look at the foreman of the _ amount that was new, did we? tt gm, look at the foreman of the debate, it's a criticism we have seen across social media, during the debates and after, the 45 seconds both politicians were given to answer questions just only enable them to

repeat sound bites we have heard across radio and tv over the past few weeks. as a result of that, i think it left viewers feeling frustrated that issues on the cost—of—living, the nhs were not really dive into that much, and in fact it felt very easy for both rishi sunak and keir starmer tojust talk about what they want to talk about, which is what is dominated the headlines today, these £2000 figure in many ways has turned around to explode in them, the conservative party a bit, route in regard to where they stand on that figure. regard to where they stand on that fi . ure. . , regard to where they stand on that fiaure. , ,, regard to where they stand on that fiure. .y , , regard to where they stand on that fiure. .y m , figure. lucy, stay with us, iwill come back— figure. lucy, stay with us, iwill come back and _ figure. lucy, stay with us, iwill come back and a _ figure. lucy, stay with us, iwill come back and a second, - figure. lucy, stay with us, iwill come back and a second, do . come back and a second, do some breaking news. let's ta ke let's take it to cardiff,. vaughan gething is lost at both of no confidence, it was tabled earlier by the west conservatives. let's speak to thomas morgan unconservative

there. just tell us what we know so far. shes there. just tell us what we know so far. �* . there. just tell us what we know so far. . , , ., , ., far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely — far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely he _ far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely he would _ far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely he would lose _ far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely he would lose that - far. as we reported this morning, it looks likely he would lose that bothi looks likely he would lose that both of no confidence because of the makeup in this scented, labour has 60 members so for the both of no—confidence to succeed they needed at least one member of the labour members to either abstain or vote against, two members have not voted because there is from the labour side, which means he has now lost a vote, as 29 voted for this motion. what does it mean? it is not legally binding because in the legislation of the evolved government, when there is both of no—confidence in there is both of no—confidence in the individual it is not legally binding but it puts more pressure on vaughan gething to stop the reason we got to the situation is because of these unanswered questions regarding the £200,000 donation given to him towards his leadership campaign for when he became first minister. it came to him through a

company owned by a man who was treisman convicted of environmental offences, so the pressure is built, and that's how we came to the point today, but as i mentioned, he doesn't have to stand down, he said he's not going to, but as i said, no doubt, the opposition parties note will call on him to resign now that is lost a vote, and is the worst time for it to happen during a uk general election campaign. there are signs it is trickling into public confidence as well. we are hearing that some labour activists on the street knocking doors saying it is coming up on the doorstep, the latest polls suggest that vaughan gething has —— does seem to have a more negative or slighted out of his opinion of his leadership. but polls also it does not seem to be dented the labour party in opposing general with the election, so the welsh public are able to meet that description to vaughan gething in the senate and the uk labour party

and the uk general election, but this is the first time a vote of no—confidence in stopping for a first minister since 2000, so it is a significant day, but as i mentioned, because it is legally binding, he doesn't have to stand on. there will be pressure on him elsewhere to do that i was looking at what you said earlier, he was pretty emotional elsewhere to do that i was looking at what you said earlier, he was pretty emotional when elsewhere to do that i was looking at what you said earlier, he was pretty emotional when he elsewhere to do that i was looking at what you said earlier, he was pretty emotional when he was elsewhere to do that i was looking at what you said earlier, he was pretty emotional when he was talking in senedd there he said i continued to put the people first in thought and deed and addition as i serve and lead my country but you are right, the timing and the mists of a general election campaign, the timing be worse. tt general election campaign, the timing be worse.— general election campaign, the timing be worse. it could not. you mentioned — timing be worse. it could not. you mentioned the _ timing be worse. it could not. you mentioned the debate _ timing be worse. it could not. you mentioned the debate that - timing be worse. it could not. you mentioned the debate that took i timing be worse. it could not. you . mentioned the debate that took place from 45 minutes ago, members on both sides of it really high—quality debate and you had some really strong words from both sides on vaughan gething becoming emotional at the words of support by members from his own party. from the

opposition, their point was that this was a question of integrity and honesty for the first minister, that he had not been clean about certain aspects, that he had not been forthright in what had happened and thatis forthright in what had happened and that is why it has led to the situation. my guess, the timing could not be worse. he had only been in thejob for three could not be worse. he had only been in the job for three months or so and things really have not caught the plan. there has been pressure regarding the donations from his company and pressure around what's up company and pressure around what's up messages he sent during the pandemic and also pressure around the sacking of one of the ministers was one of the individuals who did not take place in the vote today, he was ill, pressure in the way of why he sat that minister with some information to do the nations as well but as you mention, the timing could not be worse. but even though he has lost, he does not have to stand on. and says he will not at the moment. stand on. and says he will not at the moment-—

stand on. and says he will not at the moment. ., ,, , ., ., , the moment. thank you. our cardiff correspondent _ the moment. thank you. our cardiff correspondent there. _ the moment. thank you. our cardiff correspondent there. as _ the moment. thank you. our cardiff correspondent there. as we - the moment. thank you. our cardiff correspondent there. as we were i correspondent there. as we were hearing, vaughan gething losing that a vote of no—confidence. he is been in thatjobjust since a vote of no—confidence. he is been in thatjob just since march facing that no confidence. he is been in that no confidence. he is been in thatjobjust since march that job just since march facing that job just since march facing that no—confidence vote but as we were hearing there, he will not stand down. let's return to our other main story. we were following reaction to those debates, the first leaders televised debates last night during reaching sunak and keir starmer that centred on those allegations around what labour�*s tax plans would look like. let's return to our spectator reporter, lucy done. you were telling us about the response to what we heard last night and how that debate really seemed to just come down to that controversial issue today, labour say rishi sunak was lying come the conservatives seem to be standing by that claim that a labour government would need £2000 in additional

taxes. ~ , ,., , would need £2000 in additional taxes. ~ , , ~' would need £2000 in additional taxes. ~ , , ~ ., would need £2000 in additional taxes. ~ , ~ ., , taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting _ taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting about _ taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting about this _ taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting about this is - taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting about this is that - taxes. absolutely. i think what is interesting about this is that last i interesting about this is that last night keir starmer himself during the debate did not actually refute the debate did not actually refute the claims knowing what he was doing today. the strength of the wording has changed. he saw this morning jonathan was on the morning rounds using the word lying and liar. these types of words which are strong language and now keir starmer is suggesting that rishi sunak has broken the ministerial code and referring to this £2000 figure. what is also a bit interesting as we have seen this letter as well sent by treasury officials to dianejones saying that they want to distance themselves from this number. so i think there is a real frustration probably again for people watching this all unfold as to first of all who is being honest in was actually going on and which politician or political party do you if any. that is a real issue _ political party do you if any. that is a real issue in _ political party do you if any. that is a real issue in this. _ political party do you if any. that is a real issue in this. it is about trust and honesty with the voters. i suppose the politicians will argue

now about who is right on this claim, but at the same time, there is a real danger that voters will say they are all as bad as each other it cannot get to the bottom of this and switch off and not engaging with some key issues. you this and switch off and not engaging with some key issues.— this and switch off and not engaging with some key issues. you say there is a danger — with some key issues. you say there is a danger of _ with some key issues. you say there is a danger of it. _ with some key issues. you say there is a danger of it, i _ with some key issues. you say there is a danger of it, i think _ with some key issues. you say there is a danger of it, i think it _ is a danger of it, i think it is already happening. looking people in dorset you are saying they are completely undecided as to who they will vote for. we note the polls are very much in the favour of labour but i do not think that labour are pulling people in with the force that they may be once were back in the example we talk about 1997 or previous general election years. i think people are fuelling other parties have let them down and so labour is just the other option that is there. which is not really the best or strongest standing for keir starmer�*s party. certainly i think there's a lot of voter apathy amongst young people as well who are sitting there thinking, i do not trust anyone, really and don't know which politicians actually want to help me and notjust people with their own party political arguments

and i think there is a real worry when you look at what is happening on the 4th ofjuly, but turn out in the bulls, may be dramatically affected by this as one example. it also a number of issues we've seen crop up over the last 12 months. tt crop up over the last 12 months. it is early days yet in this campaign. thank you for being with us, lucy and for your patience while we broke that news. now time to check in with all of the sport. hi. we will start with news for manchester city chairman. he says he is frustrated that the club's successes on the pitch are invariably accompanied by the mention of 115 manchester city chairman khaldoon al—mubarak says he is "frustrated" that the club's successes on the pitch are invariably accompanied by a mention of the 115 premier league charges they face for breaching spending rules — charges which they deny. yesterday, it emerged that city

are actually taking legal action against the premier league over its commercial rules. giving an in—house interview before their legal challenge became public, the city chairman was asked about the alleged 115 breaches. he said: "i feel for our fanbase and everyone associated with the club to have these charges constantly referenced. it's taking longer than anyone hoped for, but there is a process we have to go through. i've always repeated, let's be judged by the facts and not by claims and counterclaims." malcolm clarke — chair of the football supporters association — thinks the lesson from what's happening with manchester city renews the need for a regulator, and he thinks football needs it as soon as possible. what we have always been told by the premier league is that is a strong regulatory body itself in his perfectly competent to manage its own affairs. . perfectly competent to manage its own affairs-— own affairs. this shows it is not. we have one _ own affairs. this shows it is not. we have one of _ own affairs. this shows it is not. we have one of our _ own affairs. this shows it is not. we have one of our major - own affairs. this shows it is not. we have one of our major clubs| own affairs. this shows it is not. - we have one of our major clubs which won the league for four seasons in a row challenging of all the rules of the organisation of which it is a member. we believe this illustrates

the need for a football regulator which will have the power to act in the wider interests of the game. we need a regulator and as soon as possible. after a year out from the game, antonio conte is back — he's signed as the new napoli manager. conte has been out of work since leaving tottenham in march last year. he lifted the premier league trophy with chelsea and has had huge success in italy, winning three serie a titles in a row withjuventus and was also in charge of inter milan when they were champions in 2021. napoli won the title for the first time in 33 years last season, but finished tenth this year. there's been another upset in the women's quarter finals at the french open. the 2022 wimbledon champion elena rybakina has been knocked out by italy's jasmine paolini. it means 28—year—old paolini makes it through to a grand slam semifinal for the first time in her career. rybakina, who's the fourth seed and who was yet to drop a set in the tournament, had recovered from a set and a break

down to take this to a decider, however, 12th seed paolini, took the match 6—2, 4—6, 6—4. second seed aryna sabalenka has been struggling in her match against russian mirra andreeva. the first set went to a tie break, which the experienced belarusian eventually took 7—6, but she hasn't looked well through out, doubling over in pain at certain points. 17—year—old andereva is currently leading the second set 3—2. 17—year—old andereva is currently leading the second set 6—4. three—time french open winner alfie hewett has moved into the semi—finals of the men's wheelchair singles with a 6—love, 6—4 victory overfellow brit gordon reid. hewitt only needed 74 minutes to beat his compatriot and set up a semifinal. he's aiming to win his ninth singles title at a grand slam, having also won the us open on four occasions and the australian open once.

india are on course for victory in their t20 world cup opener against ireland. they won the toss, elected to bowl and have taken full advantage of the conditions in new york. they reduced ireland to 50 for 8 before a late flurry of sixes from gareth delany saw ireland set a target of 97. india have begun their chase and are currently 22 for 1. more details on all of those stories on the bbc sport website. and that's all the sport for now. last night was the first leaders debate and our correspondent is at copper road visiting the different constituencies in and around greater manchester for us today. this morning she but now she is in bolton west. it has been fascinating to

hear what voters think about what happened last night but more generally about this general election, what are they telling you today? tithe this general election, what are they telling you today?— telling you today? one thing that struck me talking _ telling you today? one thing that struck me talking to _ telling you today? one thing that struck me talking to people - telling you today? one thing that struck me talking to people here| telling you today? one thing that i struck me talking to people here in bolton west is just how disengaged and dissolution people here are with the political process. i was in a pub earlier in i spoke to about half a dozen or more people who said that they were sick of all politicians of every colour and shade and persuasion. a lot of people said they are not going to vote. through they are not going to vote. through the course of the afternoon, more people said that they did not want to vote rather than that they did. bolton west as a bellwether. so goes bolton west as a bellwether. so goes bolton west, so goes the nation conservative in the last general election. the polls are putting things closer. so far one of the latest gives labour the edge so it gives you the sense that there is everything to play for here. a lot

of people do not want to come on camera and they said what they would say to me would not be publishable which gives you an idea of the strength of feeling here. one person waiting to speak to me is neil. hello. born and raised in this area and you know it well. first let's talk about last night and that debate, what did you make of it? t debate, what did you make of it? i didn't watch all of it. they were both— didn't watch all of it. they were both coming up with all sorts of rubbish — both coming up with all sorts of rubbish. what i didn't like, i did not like — rubbish. what i didn't like, i did not like the way a question was answered _ not like the way a question was answered. they were both asked the question. _ answered. they were both asked the question. if— answered. they were both asked the question, if you had a loved one on a waiting _ question, if you had a loved one on a waiting list— question, if you had a loved one on a waiting list for an operation, would — a waiting list for an operation, would you _ a waiting list for an operation, would you pay for it? rishi sunak said yes — would you pay for it? rishi sunak said yes. keir starmer said no. in my opinion, — said yes. keir starmer said no. in my opinion, he was lying. why do you think that? my opinion, he was lying. why do you thinkthat? i— my opinion, he was lying. why do you think that? i don't trust _ my opinion, he was lying. why do you think that? i don't trust him. - my opinion, he was lying. why do you thinkthat? i don't trust him. i- think that? i don't trust him. i don't think— think that? i don't trust him. i don't think you _ think that? i don't trust him. i don't think you can _ think that? i don't trust him. i don't think you can trust - think that? i don't trust him. i don't think you can trust him. i

thinkthat? i don't trust him. i. don't think you can trust him. see do not don't think you can trust him. see do rrot trust _ don't think you can trust him.

person. i'm not saying you are i'm 'ust person. i'm not saying you are i'm just asking — person. i'm not saying you are i'm just asking whether _ person. i'm not saying you are i'm just asking whether you _ person. i'm not saying you are i'm just asking whether you have - person. i'm not saying you are i'm just asking whether you have all i person. i'm not saying you are i'm| just asking whether you have all of that immigration impacting your life? �* ., that immigration impacting your life? ., , that immigration impacting your life? �* ., , life? i'm not 'ust bothered about me. i'm life? i'm notjust bothered about me. i'm bothered _ life? i'm notjust bothered about me. i'm bothered about - life? i'm notjust bothered about me. i'm bothered about this - life? i'm notjust bothered about - me. i'm bothered about this country. we have _ me. i'm bothered about this country. we have heard both leaders have different approaches when dealing with immigration particularly the small boat crossings. do you agree with rishi sunak's plan for rwanda? yes but i would not like them to start with — yes but i would not like them to start with i _ yes but i would not like them to start with i would just send the straight — start with i would just send the straight back to where they came from _ straight back to where they came from. ,, ., straight back to where they came from, ,, ., ., ., straight back to where they came from. ., ., ., from. some are fleeing war and persecution. — from. some are fleeing war and persecution, what _ from. some are fleeing war and persecution, what about - from. some are fleeing war and persecution, what about that? i from. some are fleeing war and - persecution, what about that? some help the british army in afghanistan.— help the british army in afghanistan. help the british army in afuhanistan. , , ., ., , afghanistan. they should have been allowed in. those _ afghanistan. they should have been allowed in. those people _ afghanistan. they should have been allowed in. those people who - afghanistan. they should have been allowed in. those people who were | allowed in. those people who were doing _ allowed in. those people who were doing that — allowed in. those people who were doing that. but if you watch the boats _ doing that. but if you watch the boats they are young men and they are economic migrants.— are economic migrants. thank you very much — are economic migrants. thank you very much for— are economic migrants. thank you very much for your _ are economic migrants. thank you very much for your perspective. i are economic migrants. thank you i very much for your perspective. you are not decided yet? hot very much for your perspective. you are not decided yet?— are not decided yet? not yet. but i will not are not decided yet? not yet. but i will rrot be — are not decided yet? not yet. but i will not be voting _ are not decided yet? not yet. but i will not be voting for— are not decided yet? not yet. but i will not be voting for keir starmer. i will not be voting for keir starmer. not a _

will not be voting for keir starmer. not a vote — will not be voting for keir starmer. not a vote for labour. what was said was interesting because a lot of people i've spoken to, a lot of people i've spoken to, a lot of people i've spoken to, a lot of people i've spoken to are leaning towards reform here. so we have a dialogue about labour and conservative and in a swing seat but it is important to acknowledge from what i found today that there are a lot of people who don't feel that either of the main political parties are actually addressing their concerns and you've heard from neil on his thoughts on immigration. let's come into this boutique you're in meet mckenzie. we are live on bbc. we spoke to mckenzie earlier. so, working in this lovely boutique, you have not totally made up your mind but you watch the debate last night so let's hear your take. t night so let's hear your take. i personally think that it is hard to say because they both have different opinions _ say because they both have different opinions and i agree from certain sides— opinions and i agree from certain

sides that — opinions and i agree from certain sides that part of me wants to be more _ sides that part of me wants to be more of— sides that part of me wants to be more of a — sides that part of me wants to be more of a labour government. i don't like the _ more of a labour government. i don't like the fact _ more of a labour government. i don't like the fact that we have a billionaire prime minister telling us people who are struggling and won't _ us people who are struggling and won't change anything about it that we have _ won't change anything about it that we have to — won't change anything about it that we have to work harder and we have to do— we have to work harder and we have to do extra — we have to work harder and we have to do extra work. with me, if i were ever struggling, i would to do extra work. with me, if i were ever struggling, iwould have to do extra work. with me, if i were ever struggling, i would have to work— ever struggling, i would have to work anotherjobjust for ever struggling, i would have to work anotherjob just for the sake of making — work anotherjob just for the sake of making myself being able to live. so does _ of making myself being able to live. so does the cost—of—living? cost of making myself being able to live. so does the cost-of-living?- so does the cost-of-living? cost of livin: so does the cost-of-living? cost of living definitely. _ so does the cost-of-living? cost of living definitely. i've _ so does the cost-of-living? cost of living definitely. i've noticed - so does the cost-of-living? cost of living definitely. i've noticed the i living definitely. i've noticed the change — living definitely. i've noticed the change when i'm out shopping what i could _ change when i'm out shopping what i could get— change when i'm out shopping what i could get three or four years ago now all— could get three or four years ago now all the prices have gone up. how does that— now all the prices have gone up. how does that happen? i understand the effects— does that happen? i understand the effects of— does that happen? i understand the effects of the pandemic, but there is honestly something like that that does go _ is honestly something like that that does go up, but to the point where it is a _ does go up, but to the point where it is a skyrocketing so much where you see _

it is a skyrocketing so much where you see people struggling, it is hard _ you see people struggling, it is hard. ., ., . ., hard. having watched that debate, with the two _ hard. having watched that debate, with the two leaders, _ hard. having watched that debate, with the two leaders, who - hard. having watched that debate, with the two leaders, who do - hard. having watched that debate, with the two leaders, who do you i with the two leaders, who do you trust more with the economy? personally, i would say the vaughan i would say the labour government because _ i would say the labour government because i_ i would say the labour government because i see points of view from either— because i see points of view from either side — because i see points of view from either side so i would say i'm 50—50 i see _ either side so i would say i'm 50—50 i see some — either side so i would say i'm 50—50 i see some points in what rishi sunak— i see some points in what rishi sunak says and honestly i agree a lot with _ sunak says and honestly i agree a lot with what the labour government are saying _ lot with what the labour government are sa inc. ,, ., ., ., lot with what the labour government aresa inc. ,, ., ., ., , are saying. quite a lot of people around here _ are saying. quite a lot of people around here say _ are saying. quite a lot of people around here say immigration . are saying. quite a lot of people around here say immigration is. are saying. quite a lot of people| around here say immigration is a big issue for them and what less immigration. thank you, it appears we may have lost her there. looking at some of the key issues there as voters digest what they hurt in that election debate. a reminder that there is a full list of candidates

so far as 48 hours of the parties to finalise their lists but here is who is standing in bolton west according to the latest candidate lists. full details of the other constituencies on the bbc website. it is 13 minutes to six o'clock. coronation street stalwart helen worth has announed she is to leave the itv soap after starring as gail platt for 50 years. she'll celebrate her golden anniversary on the show and then step down at the end of the year, following a major storyline for the platt family. the actor said this was the perfect time to leave the most wonderfuljob in the world. let's speak to british actress, lynda rooke. i can't quite believe it has been 50 years. what an incredible career with so many highlights. can you believe she is off? ho.

with so many highlights. can you believe she is off?— believe she is off? no. gets she wants her— believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life _ believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life to _ believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life to go _ believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life to go off - believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life to go off and - believe she is off? no. gets she wants her life to go off and do i believe she is off? no. gets she i wants her life to go off and do her things. 50 years is a long time and she has worked very hard, they are long hours in the script writers have given her all sorts to go through so i hope she enjoys her self. she's a really good actress in a bit of a stalwart the programme. and she deserves whatever she wants to do next, whether she wants to go off and do an another acting job. first appeared as gail fourth 1974 and now has been on the soap 404,053 times and synonymous with gail platt. as an actress, is that the dream to be in a row that that you absolutely make it yours and become that person or is there a danger that person or is there a danger that you get a bit typecast in a certain role, where do you draw the line between the two? to certain role, where do you draw the line between the two?— line between the two? to be honest, i think line between the two? to be honest,

i think what — line between the two? to be honest, i think what happens _ line between the two? to be honest, i think what happens is _ line between the two? to be honest, i think what happens is the _ line between the two? to be honest, i think what happens is the writers i i think what happens is the writers right for you. so the more they get to know how you want to play the character, then they adapt for that. so it is not so much you determining, but there is a kind of a between the two and also how the producers decide to deal with the programme as well. but i think she has been kept very fresh and honest and a very genuine response in her performance so all credit to her. you were talking to our producers to sing, she played the character with dignity and clarity. what you mean by that? i guess there are probably times when you think, this is what not what my character would do, or gail would not do that but you have to play the role of the scriptwriters right. she is extremely _ scriptwriters right. she is extremely truthful. - scriptwriters right. she is extremely truthful. it. scriptwriters right. she is extremely truthful. it is i scriptwriters right. she is - extremely truthful. it is exactly that. it is a very dignified performance because it is fairly calm and she just deals with life coming out her in the script in the

family situation. there is that rock performance that is solid there that people can work well with in all of the characters in the family can work with as well.— the characters in the family can work with as well. incredible. we're lookin: at work with as well. incredible. we're looking at some _ work with as well. incredible. we're looking at some pictures _ work with as well. incredible. we're looking at some pictures of- work with as well. incredible. we're looking at some pictures of her, - looking at some pictures of her, very young gail. thank you. talking to us about the career of helen worth who will step down as playing gail platt at the end of the year. let's turn our attention elsewhere. climate scientists say there are just five years left to limit the global temperature rise to 1.5 celsius above pre industrial levels. that threshold agreed in paris in 2015 is considered crucial to avoid the most catastrophic impacts of climate change. it comes as the un chief, antonio guterres, is expected to tell the latest round of un climate negotiations, in germany, that the world is not doing enough to switch away from coal, oil, and gas. our environment correspondent,

matt mcgrath told us what was in the report. this report is filling in the gaps, if you like, in the overall science that the un puts out every number of years. this is a new report this year and it says essentially that the level of warming that we're seeing now has never been higher, where warming is going up by 0.25 degrees or 0.26 degrees every decade, that's a faster rate of increase than was between 1970 and 2010. and overall, the picture is that last year the world warmed by one and a half degrees, 1.4 degrees, of which 90% of that 92% was caused by humans and about 8% caused by the el nino climate and weather phenomenon. the bigger picture, as you say, is that we're continuing to produce emissions. we're continuing to produce those warming gases that drive up temperatures. and the report highlights the fact that we are burning through our budget, if you like, very, very rapidly. and on their calculations, we would have five years to 2029 and we would have used up enough carbon to push us over that 1.5

degree threshold that was agreed in paris. just over a year since his coronation and the king now appears on our notes coins have already been out for a little while. but unless you're very lucky, it may be a little while until you get your hands on some of them. in the meantime, some 4.7 billion of the more familiar notes featuring the late queen will continue to be legal tender. and as nice as the new notes are it comes at a time when we're using less cash in general — as kevin peachey reports. cash may no longer be king. but finally, the king is on our cash. printed months ago, preparations are complete for these banknotes to enter circulation from today. and if it's your portrait on them... i wondered how it would come out. ..you'll be curious about how they look. these are the first issues. the rest will be introduced steadily. we are only printing enough to replace worn out notes and to be

helping you demand. but cash centres up and down the country have new notes in and so they should start to be seen nationwide as of today but over the next few weeks and then people will start seeing them come into their wallets. but while the king's now appearing on notes and coins, is cash disappearing from our lives? here in the harbour town of looe in cornwall, a county with rich links to the monarch and where the ferry only takes cash, they've witnessed a sea change. well, i can tell you that because i'm the local window cleaner. so most people pay straight into the bank account, the company bank account. you see people pay with their phones these days. i don't do that. usually card or my phone, to be honest. it's just... i've just got so used to it. yeah, everywhere you go, it's got card readers. - even the toilet down there, . they're preparing to put a little card reader for 20p. surveys suggest most people

still rely to some extent on cash, but with fewer banks around, its getting harder to find. with more than 6,000 branches across the uk having closed in the last nine years, hundreds of places like this have been left with none at all. and for those who want or need banking services and cash, one possible alternative stands right here. behind a cafe and heritage centre underneath an award winning restaurant... through this magic door... ..and next to a disused climbing wall, there's a new hub. premises shared by the major banks and run by the post office. so they can come and take money out. they can come and put money in. they can deposit cheques. they can... we do change giving for businesses. people come and pay their bills. you can top up your gas and electric, with a friendly service and a smile.

the cafe manager says the hub — one of 50 around the country — is a lifeline. obviously for all the businesses in the town, they need to use it, you know, because if they don't, you know that old saying, "if you don't use it, you're going to lose it." so whether or not you think cash still counts, it will be with us with a new look for a while yet. kevin peachey, bbc news. just a reminder that breaking news reported a little earlier that the first ministers of wales lost that vote of no confidence of him. in the welsh parliament after months of scrutiny of donations to his recent leadership campaign. remember, he's only been in the job since march. what happens next? not a lot changes, frankly. the result is not binding. the first minister does not have to resign. and of course, and a general election campaign, the

timing puts him in a difficult position. 29 voted in favour of that resolution, the vote of no—confidence. 27 voted against it. that is because the welsh parliament was split between conservatives and labour pretty much down the middle. we heard from vaughn getting earlier, he got emotional in the debate and he said he will continue to put wales first in thought and deed and admission as i serve and lead my country. but there is no growing pressure on him, opposition party saying hisjudgment growing pressure on him, opposition party saying his judgment was questionable and have called it a grave date. much more on that story in all of today's main store is coming up for you on the bbc news at six. that is it for me but let's have a look at the weather with ben rich. hello. today has brought a rather chilly feel to the weather across many parts of the uk, particularly when you consider we are now intojune. that said, a bit of sunshine did make it feel relatively warm — the sun is strong at this time of year.

there have been lengthy sunny spells, particularly down towards the south. further north, you can see a few more shower clouds on the satellite picture. those showers feeding in from the north—west on quite a brisk wind, which is also bringing us this supply of relatively chilly air and temperatures certainly dropping away as we go through tonight. although, this zone of cloud here sliding its way eastwards across england and wales, that mightjust hold the temperatures up a little bit. where we have the clearest of the skies, northern england, northern ireland up into scotland will be down into single digits, maybe close to freezing in one or two sheltered spots in the countryside. now we start tomorrow morning with a bit more cloud in the mix for some central and eastern parts of england, maybe the odd shower. that should tend to break up and then we're back to sunshine and showers. the showers most plentiful across northern areas. the odd heavy thundery one again across scotland. still quite windy in the far north, but further south, not as breezy as it has been today. those temperatures still a touch below the average for the time of year — 12 to 17 degrees covers

it for most of us. now, as we move out of thursday into friday, we've still got low pressure to the north of us and this little frontal system here working its way southwards. a band of rain with that moving across scotland, northern ireland, down into northern england as we go through the day, tending to break up into something more showery. further showers racing into the north—west of scotland, where again, it will be quite windy and a bit more cloud around down towards the south. temperatures, though, a little bit higherfor some of us — 19 degrees in london, stilljust 11 for lerwick and for stornoway. this area of high pressure out towards the west, it is making some attempts to build its way in, but not making an awful lot of progress, so saturday, still dominated by low pressure, bringing showers or perhaps longer spells of rain across scotland. the odd shower into northern ireland, northern england, further south, not as many showers, more dry weather, some spells of sunshine. those temperatures, though, pretty much stuck in that range between 11 and 19 degrees. similar temperatures for the second half of the weekend on sunday. the showers mostly across the north,

drier weather further south. at six: the king pays tribute to d—day veterans as events to mark the 80th anniversary of the allied landings get under way. a standing ovation for one d—day veteran as the king, queen and prince william are joined by politicians to mark the moment thousands of troops set

off across the channel. here in bayeux military cemetery, a service to remember the fallen. and a chance for tea with a princess, as the veterans retell their stories. and our other main stories here tonight: our other menus tonight, sir keir starmer accuses rishi sunak of lying about the labour party tax plans in last nights tv election debates. whales first minister, vaughan gething, looses a confidence motion after nearly two months in the job. and a major cause of inflammatory bowel disease is discovered by uk scientists, we will find out what it means for people living with conditions like crohn's and colitis.

and coming up on bbc news. another shock at the french open as fourth seed elena rybakina