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a lot of success came as a relief. a lot of eo - le success came as a relief. a lot of peeple say _ success came as a relief. a lot of peeple say i _ success came as a relief. a lot of peeple say i need _ success came as a relief. a lot of people say i need to _ success came as a relief. a lot of people say i need to smile - success came as a relief. a lot of. people say i need to smile more and i'm smiling, believe me. it is little bit of controlled emotion because there are a lot of phases of this mission when we just completed the first one. prelaunch and launch is just the first part of this. we now have to get to i55 and doc and do docking operations and undock into reentry and then re—land. starliner is a brand—new spacecraft that sits on top of the rocket. this is its first test flight with a crew on board. it has been built to transport crew, cargo to and from the international space station. it will take around one day to get there and the mission will lastjust over one week. when it gets back to earth, it will be with a bump in what is going to be the first hard capsule landing for a us mission. along with space acts, there will not be two private—sector firms
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taking astronauts to the space station, if boeing's freight goes well. ., , ., ., well. having competition with two roviders well. having competition with two providers providing _ well. having competition with two providers providing nasa - well. having competition with two providers providing nasa with - well. having competition with two providers providing nasa with a i well. having competition with two i providers providing nasa with a way to and from the space station should bring down costs which is important for nasa and other space agencies like the european and the uk. because we are spending taxpayer's money on these flights to get our astronauts to the space station and we want to get best value for money. but regular missions to the space station will depend on there being no further serious technical issues. with so much at stake, it will be a big win for boeing. it is time now to digest the day's election campaigning. obviously we will do the political fallout from tuesday night's first televised political debate, but
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before we do that, give me the planes, trains and automobiles behind the scenes. you are all in salford like every political journalist minus me. i was here in my living room. journalist minus me. i was here in my living room-— journalist minus me. i was here in my living room. you were missed. it was a slow — my living room. you were missed. it was a slow trickle _ my living room. you were missed. it was a slow trickle of _ my living room. you were missed. it was a slow trickle of people - my living room. you were missed. it was a slow trickle of people rocking | was a slow trickle of people rocking up was a slow trickle of people rocking up in different parts of salford at different times all having got very strange to get there, i bumped into chris in salford in the reception of a hotel. very late at night. what on earth are you doing here? we didn't expect a pass to cross. the worst bit was getting back from salford this morning. the bit was getting back from salford this morning-— this morning. the train is on the west coast _ this morning. the train is on the west coast main _ this morning. the train is on the west coast main line _ this morning. the train is on the west coast main line but - this morning. the train is on the l west coast main line but between manchester and london, some people took about_ manchester and london, some people took about five hours, it is normally— took about five hours, it is normally about two hours. | took about five hours, it is normally about two hours. i happily not on the normally about two hours. i happily got on the one _ normally about two hours. i happily got on the one train _ normally about two hours. i happily got on the one train running - normally about two hours. i happily got on the one train running on - got on the one train running on time, no delays. just luck. we would
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have been in — time, no delays. just luck. we would have been in our— time, no delays. just luck. we would have been in our election _ time, no delays. just luck. we would have been in our election than, - have been in our election than, which _ have been in our election than, which we — have been in our election than, which we are trundling around the country _ which we are trundling around the count . a, ,., .,, which we are trundling around the country-_ it i country. the mason mobile. it doesnt country. the mason mobile. it doesn't have _ country. the mason mobile. it doesn't have any _ country. the mason mobile. it doesn't have any windows - country. the mason mobile. it doesn't have any windows in l country. the mason mobile. it l doesn't have any windows in the hack _ doesn't have any windows in the back it — doesn't have any windows in the back it is — doesn't have any windows in the back. it is lo—fi and low—tech compared _ back. it is lo—fi and low—tech compared with angela rayner's bus. that was— compared with angela rayner's bus. that was the reference. not any windows — that was the reference. not any windows in— that was the reference. not any windows in the back. i can work away without _ windows in the back. i can work away without getting distracted. that windows in the back. i can work away without getting distracted.— without getting distracted. that is the traffic and _ without getting distracted. that is the traffic and travel, _ without getting distracted. that is the traffic and travel, on - without getting distracted. that is the traffic and travel, on with - without getting distracted. that is the traffic and travel, on with the | the traffic and travel, on with the news. it is adam in the studio. and chris on a rare trip _ it is adam in the studio. and chris on a rare trip to _ it is adam in the studio. and chris on a rare trip to the _ it is adam in the studio. and chris on a rare trip to the capital. - it is adam in the studio. and chris on a rare trip to the capital. and l on a rare trip to the capital. and it is alex also _ on a rare trip to the capital. and it is alex also in _ on a rare trip to the capital. and it is alex also in the _ on a rare trip to the capital. jifuc it is alex also in the studio. on a rare trip to the capital. and it is alex also in the studio. the | it is alex also in the studio. the election debate _ it is alex also in the studio. the election debate that happened in salford on tuesday night between rishi sunak and keir starmer, i
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thought... well, itook rishi sunak and keir starmer, i thought... well, i took my lead from the new gulf poll which came out soon afterwards saying that amongst the people they had sampled 51% of people said that rishi sunak had one, a0 1% people said that rishi sunak had one, a0 i% thought keir starmer had done best. but we got some opinion polls from other companies flipping it around the other way.— it around the other way. there are two things — it around the other way. there are two things you _ it around the other way. there are two things you can _ it around the other way. there are two things you can take _ it around the other way. there are two things you can take from - it around the other way. there are| two things you can take from that, the first thing we frequently say is you have to treat every opinion poll with a pinch of salt. only a patent counts. the second thing is the broad conclusion that no one really one, there wasn't a standout winner. there wasn't a knockout blow. therefore, it leaves the question of how much this changes the direction of the campaign. there were important things in it that have been developed. the important things in it that have been developed.— important things in it that have been develo ed. ., ., been developed. the one thing that intriaued been developed. the one thing that intrigued me _ been developed. the one thing that intrigued me about _ been developed. the one thing that intrigued me about the _ been developed. the one thing that intrigued me about the polls, - been developed. the one thing that intrigued me about the polls, and l intrigued me about the polls, and the one _ intrigued me about the polls, and the one that came out this morning, the one that came out this morning, the gap _ the one that came out this morning, the gap they suggested between the relative _ the gap they suggested between the relative performance of the two of them _ relative performance of the two of them was — relative performance of the two of them was wider in keir starmer's
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favoured — them was wider in keir starmer's favoured than the very small gap in wishes _ favoured than the very small gap in wishes an— favoured than the very small gap in wishes an act does not favour in the yougov— wishes an act does not favour in the yougov pott — wishes an act does not favour in the yougov poll. the thing i find myself pondering, — yougov poll. the thing i find myself pondering, ended a doubling of the answer. _ pondering, ended a doubling of the answer. is — pondering, ended a doubling of the answer, is if you look at all three of those — answer, is if you look at all three of those tools and assert all the caveats — of those tools and assert all the caveats that alex does, i found myself — caveats that alex does, i found myself thinking whatever the gap is between _ myself thinking whatever the gap is between them, and let's look at those _ between them, and let's look at those ones where keir starmer has an apparent _ those ones where keir starmer has an apparent need, that gap seemed narrower— apparent need, that gap seemed narrower than some of the wider opinion— narrower than some of the wider opinion polls suggest, as the gap in popularity— opinion polls suggest, as the gap in popularity between conservatives and lahour~ _ popularity between conservatives and lahour~ we _ popularity between conservatives and labour. we are comparing apples and pears, _ labour. we are comparing apples and pears, because a party political opinion— pears, because a party political opinion pollster is a greater spread of options — opinion pollster is a greater spread of options. just because you are watching — of options. just because you are watching the telly included one man one, doesn't mean it was sufficient to alter— one, doesn't mean it was sufficient to alter how— one, doesn't mean it was sufficient to alter how you might vote. just to throw— to alter how you might vote. just to throw that — to alter how you might vote. just to throw that into the mix. but i think you are _ throw that into the mix. but i think you are right. it is always hard. what _ you are right. it is always hard. what is — you are right. it is always hard. what is victory? but i think given
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where _ what is victory? but i think given where rishi sunak was, psychologically and with his own party, _ psychologically and with his own party, he — psychologically and with his own party, he came out looking like he had plenty— party, he came out looking like he had plenty of fight in him. that matters, — had plenty of fight in him. that matters, even if only for a morale on his— matters, even if only for a morale on his site — matters, even if only for a morale on his site anything else. the more relevant question _ on his site anything else. the more relevant question in _ on his site anything else. the more relevant question in the _ on his site anything else. the more relevant question in the debates i on his site anything else. the more relevant question in the debates to | relevant question in the debates to come, is not who won but did anyone really lose? is the jeopardy in danger of huge mistake greater than the narrow edge of victory in this campaign? that actually might end up going on to have more consequence. and that whole thing of rishi sunak drawing equal orjust going ahead of keir starmer in one full might feel like a massive victory to some conservatives because in the other polls, they are so far behind labour, so a draw is winning. even if we are looking at other polls which say something completely different. i have learnt over the
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years that my predictive skills are not very good. amongst friends in the pub, i have predicted something and they have ended up being wrong. that is why i don't make predictions any more apart from last night. i didn't even stick to my script. you have a script? _ didn't even stick to my script. you have a script? my _ didn't even stick to my script. you have a script? my mental - didn't even stick to my script. you have a script? my mental script! l didn't even stick to my script. you i have a script? my mental script! but what's that? — have a script? my mental script! but what's that? chris _ have a script? my mental script! but what's that? chris has _ have a script? my mental script! but what's that? chris has a _ have a script? my mental script! but what's that? chris has a notepad - have a script? my mental script! but what's that? chris has a notepad in i what's that? chris has a notepad in front of him. as soon as labour are going to put up your taxes by £2000, i said that is going to be a big deal. i wasn't sure in what direction the deal would go, whether it would be disastrous for labour this because people would be like what i they not telling us? or it would backfire on the person making the claim. it has gone in both directions. the claim. it has gone in both directions-— the claim. it has gone in both directions. , ,, .,~ , . ., directions. rishi sunak may be claim loads and loads _ directions. rishi sunak may be claim loads and loads of _ directions. rishi sunak may be claim loads and loads of times _ directions. rishi sunak may be claim loads and loads of times on - directions. rishi sunak may be claim loads and loads of times on the - loads and loads of times on the programme, as we were reflecting last time _ programme, as we were reflecting last time it — programme, as we were reflecting last time it took quite a while for keir starmer to knock it down and say it _ keir starmer to knock it down and say it was—
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keir starmer to knock it down and say it was false. then this morning a cabinet _ say it was false. then this morning a cabinet minister was doing what is known _ a cabinet minister was doing what is known as— a cabinet minister was doing what is known as the morning round, popping up known as the morning round, popping up on _ known as the morning round, popping up on various — known as the morning round, popping up on various media outlets and she is a cabinet — up on various media outlets and she is a cabinet minister but also every close _ is a cabinet minister but also every close ally— is a cabinet minister but also every close ally of — is a cabinet minister but also every close ally of rishi sunak. they worked — close ally of rishi sunak. they worked together at the treasury when he was _ worked together at the treasury when he was a _ worked together at the treasury when he was a minister and she was a special— he was a minister and she was a special adviser. and she made the same _ special adviser. and she made the same point, without much caveat in said this _ same point, without much caveat in said this number had come about via independent treasury analysis. some elements— independent treasury analysis. some elements of that number had come about— elements of that number had come about by— elements of that number had come about by political appointees, conservative advisers, asking the treasury — conservative advisers, asking the treasury civil servants to do some number— treasury civil servants to do some number crunching based on their own political— number crunching based on their own political assumptions about elements of lahours— political assumptions about elements of labour's spending. midway through this round, _ of labour's spending. midway through this round, that clear coutinho was doing. _ this round, that clear coutinho was doing, labour published a letter that they— doing, labour published a letter that they got a couple of days ago from _ that they got a couple of days ago from the — that they got a couple of days ago from the most senior civil servant in the _ from the most senior civil servant in the treasury in response to a
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letter— in the treasury in response to a letter that— in the treasury in response to a letter that labour had written to him, _ letter that labour had written to him. in — letter that labour had written to him, in which this civil servant said _ him, in which this civil servant said not— him, in which this civil servant said not all— him, in which this civil servant said not all of what the conservatives are claiming in this number, — conservatives are claiming in this number, this £2000 additional tax claim _ number, this £2000 additional tax claim number did come from the numbers— claim number did come from the numbers that we crunched, and we have _ numbers that we crunched, and we have made — numbers that we crunched, and we have made that clear to ministers, that they— have made that clear to ministers, that they should not be claiming otherwise. claire coutinho explicitly referred to the... and then— explicitly referred to the... and then there _ explicitly referred to the... and then there is appears this letter published by him, published by labour, — published by him, published by labour, i'm picking one element, and there _ labour, i'm picking one element, and there is— labour, i'm picking one element, and there is a _ labour, i'm picking one element, and there is a few— labour, i'm picking one element, and there is a few we can pick away at, around _ there is a few we can pick away at, around the — there is a few we can pick away at, around the misleading nature of that conservative claim.— conservative claim. there are so much we can _ conservative claim. there are so much we can discuss _ conservative claim. there are so much we can discuss about - conservative claim. there are so much we can discuss about this, | conservative claim. there are so - much we can discuss about this, and let's break it down into chunks. let's talk about the 2010 figure. my
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issue with it as someone who can spot accuracy as statistics is it is a meaningless number on its own terms because it is assuming every household pays the same amount of tax, and any changes would be applied equally to every single household, so from a basic arithmetic point of view, it is not accurate to the world. even if you have no issue with any of the mathematics, it is times to buy for because it is talking about over a four—year period. because it is talking about over a four-year period.— because it is talking about over a four-year period. most people, to the extent — four-year period. most people, to the extent to _ four-year period. most people, to the extent to which _ four-year period. most people, to the extent to which we _ four-year period. most people, to the extent to which we think- four-year period. most people, to| the extent to which we think about tax bills, _ the extent to which we think about tax bills, are likely to think of them — tax bills, are likely to think of them on _ tax bills, are likely to think of them on an annual basis. gr tax bills, are likely to think of them on an annual basis. or even monthl . them on an annual basis. or even monthly- and _ them on an annual basis. or even monthly. and then _ them on an annual basis. or even monthly. and then there - them on an annual basis. or even monthly. and then there is - them on an annual basis. or even monthly. and then there is the i them on an annual basis. or even i monthly. and then there is the issue about the role _ monthly. and then there is the issue about the role of— monthly. and then there is the issue about the role of the _ monthly. and then there is the issue about the role of the treasury, i about the role of the treasury, secondly — about the role of the treasury, secondly making clear the fact that the treasury does the numbers and there _ the treasury does the numbers and there is— the treasury does the numbers and there is a _ the treasury does the numbers and there is a convention here, in previous— there is a convention here, in previous governments of various colours — previous governments of various colours have done it. they run the numbers _ colours have done it. they run the numbers based on the assumptions handed _ numbers based on the assumptions handed to _ numbers based on the assumptions handed to them by the political advisers — handed to them by the political advisers. there is an element in the
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document— advisers. there is an element in the document which refers to what is labour's — document which refers to what is labour's green prosperity plan, as they call— labour's green prosperity plan, as they call it — labour's green prosperity plan, as they call it. labour say they have a means _ they call it. labour say they have a means of— they call it. labour say they have a means of funding that. and there was another— means of funding that. and there was another claim, which is not part of what _ another claim, which is not part of what the _ another claim, which is not part of what the treasury did, that the think— what the treasury did, that the think tank— what the treasury did, that the think tank the institute for government have looked at, which they have — government have looked at, which they have publicly said, there is only one — they have publicly said, there is only one element to all of this, but that was— only one element to all of this, but that was misleading. we have had to be transparent, and on the reporting of itsm _ be transparent, and on the reporting of itsm do— be transparent, and on the reporting of its... ., be transparent, and on the reporting ofits... ., , , of its... do the immediate study bit. in a situation _ of its... do the immediate study bit. in a situation like _ of its... do the immediate study bit. in a situation like this i of its... do the immediate study bit. in a situation like this when| bit. in a situation like this when ou have bit. in a situation like this when you have the — bit. in a situation like this when you have the conservatives i bit. in a situation like this when i you have the conservatives making the claim, — you have the conservatives making the claim, you have keir starmer this afternoon calling it a lie, you have _ this afternoon calling it a lie, you have got— this afternoon calling it a lie, you have got conservatives saying x and labour _ have got conservatives saying x and labour saying letter win. do you 'ust labour saying letter win. do you just say— labour saying letter win. do you just say x — labour saying letter win. do you just say x and y. that is not really helping _ just say x and y. that is not really helping the —
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just say x and y. that is not really helping the audience understand. it helping the audience understand. [it would helping the audience understand. would be a helping the audience understand. it would be a version of it. but i helping the audience understand. it would be a version of it. but it i would be a version of it. but it would be a version of it. but it would not _ would be a version of it. but it would not actually _ would be a version of it. but it would not actually help i would be a version of it. but it would not actually help and i would be a version of it. but it i would not actually help and that is fundamental to what we should be doing _ fundamental to what we should be doing which is try to help people reach _ doing which is try to help people reach an— doing which is try to help people reach an informed judgment about what the _ reach an informed judgment about what the parties are saying. there is another— what the parties are saying. there is another dilemma, which is when you report — is another dilemma, which is when you report the sort of stuff, the fact we — you report the sort of stuff, the fact we are _ you report the sort of stuff, the fact we are talking about it now is giving _ fact we are talking about it now is giving it _ fact we are talking about it now is giving it prominence. we recall talking — giving it prominence. we recall talking about brexit and the bass, the idea _ talking about brexit and the bass, the idea that the uk sent a huge amount— the idea that the uk sent a huge amount of— the idea that the uk sent a huge amount of money to brussels every week, _ amount of money to brussels every week, which was wrong.— amount of money to brussels every week, which was wrong. because that was the total — week, which was wrong. because that was the total amount _ week, which was wrong. because that was the total amount we _ week, which was wrong. because that was the total amount we sent, i week, which was wrong. because that was the total amount we sent, not i week, which was wrong. because that was the total amount we sent, not to | was the total amount we sent, not to take into account what we got back. exactly, and that number was prominent because there were the rows about it. that was wrong, this claim _ rows about it. that was wrong, this claim is— rows about it. that was wrong, this claim is misleading. the label that is reasonable to attach to it is different. _ is reasonable to attach to it is different, but it prominence question is the same one. as a collection— question is the same one. as a collection of reporters, you could choose _ collection of reporters, you could choose not— collection of reporters, you could choose not to do it. you could say, we're _ choose not to do it. you could say, we're not _
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choose not to do it. you could say, we're not going to do it, what use is this— we're not going to do it, what use is this figure to audience? but that is this figure to audience? but that is an— is this figure to audience? but that is an active — is this figure to audience? but that is an active choice as well, and would — is an active choice as well, and would it— is an active choice as well, and would it be _ is an active choice as well, and would it be right for us not to report— would it be right for us not to report on— would it be right for us not to report on the most lively and contentious argument in politics today~ _ contentious argument in politics today it— contentious argument in politics toda . ., ., , ~ today. it would feel a bit like censorship- _ today. it would feel a bit like censorship. so _ today. it would feel a bit like censorship. so for— today. it would feel a bit like censorship. so for what i today. it would feel a bit like censorship. so for what it i today. it would feel a bit like censorship. so for what it is | today. it would feel a bit like i censorship. so for what it is worth, in myiudgment. — censorship. so for what it is worth, in myiudgment. we _ censorship. so for what it is worth, in myjudgment, we should i censorship. so for what it is worth, in myjudgment, we should cover. censorship. so for what it is worth, | in myjudgment, we should cover it, which _ in myjudgment, we should cover it, which covered the row, we should explain _ which covered the row, we should explain why we have decided to do what we _ explain why we have decided to do what we have done, which is what i am attempting to do now, and then set out _ am attempting to do now, and then set out our— am attempting to do now, and then set out our workings as to why we are giving — set out our workings as to why we are giving something label, so a wider— are giving something label, so a wider listener or viewer can come to a view— wider listener or viewer can come to a view as _ wider listener or viewer can come to a view as to — wider listener or viewer can come to a view as to whether or not they think— a view as to whether or not they think are — a view as to whether or not they think are at _ a view as to whether or not they think are at label is a reasonable one based — think are at label is a reasonable one based on the facts we have presented. one based on the facts we have presented-— one based on the facts we have presented. that was a very clear explanation _ presented. that was a very clear explanation of _ presented. that was a very clear explanation of what _ presented. that was a very clear explanation of what has i presented. that was a very clear explanation of what has been i presented. that was a very clear i explanation of what has been going on in your head for the last 22 hours. ., ., , ., , on in your head for the last 22 hours-_ a i on in your head for the last 22 i
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hours-_ a that hours. or to do it visually! a that one is born- _ hours. or to do it visually! a that one is born. -- _ hours. or to do it visually! a that one is born. -- eight— hours. or to do it visually! a that one is born. -- eight meme i hours. or to do it visually! a that one is born. -- eight meme isi hours. or to do it visually! a that i one is born. -- eight meme is born. one is born. —— eight meme is born. the label we have ended up with is? i think it is reasonable to say it is dubious— i think it is reasonable to say it is dubious and misleading. it is clearly— is dubious and misleading. it is clearly possible for someone hearing that number, particularly if they don't _ that number, particularly if they don't hear— that number, particularly if they don't hear that wider context to be misled _ don't hear that wider context to be misled i_ don't hear that wider context to be misled. i should say labour have also made — misled. i should say labour have also made some contentious claims about— also made some contentious claims about the _ also made some contentious claims about the conservatives' spending plans _ about the conservatives' spending plans and — about the conservatives' spending plans and taxing plans, not least around _ plans and taxing plans, not least around national insurance. remind us how some of — around national insurance. remind us how some of the _ around national insurance. remind us how some of the other _ around national insurance. remind us how some of the other parties i around national insurance. remind us how some of the other parties have i how some of the other parties have been doing this.— how some of the other parties have been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour _ been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour that _ been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour that -- _ been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour that -- there i been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour that -- there is i been doing this. before the debate, there is a rumour that -- there is a | there is a rumour that —— there is a room where all the journalists gather. in that room the paymaster general was walking around pre—debate with a dossier, a wad of papers labour had drawn up and stapled together, which they claimed
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was outlining the conservatives and funded spending commitments which amounted to billions of pounds. there is claim and counterclaim on each side, but back to the point about why this 2000 figure has such attraction is because rishi sunak repeated it live on air, any debate, in front of millions of people time and time again. when something has been given that prominence by one of the players involved, it is only right you do an examination of the accuracy of the claim that he was making. but other parties are throwing around this kind of stuff as well. and this argument around unfunded spending commitments is a hugely key part of this election campaign, which is why you are seeing it from both sides. the other bit chucked around is a parties point out that other parties have asked civil servants to do costings of their opponents' plans in the past, it is convoluted but it is important you try and unpick it
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because what rishi sunak wanted people to be left with is you are going to be to grant worse off under labour because your taxes will go up, and if that is based, as chris has said, on dubious presentation, it is only right that is called out. the political strategy... the conservatives i should also say reckon — conservatives i should also say reckon that at least some of their numbers— reckon that at least some of their numbers are a under estimate of what the bill_ numbers are a under estimate of what the bill could be or the cost could be. the bill could be or the cost could be but— the bill could be or the cost could be. but when you unpack the whole thing. _ be. but when you unpack the whole thing. i_ be. but when you unpack the whole thing, i think it is reasonable to come _ thing, i think it is reasonable to come to— thing, i think it is reasonable to come to that conclusion, and there will be _ come to that conclusion, and there will be bigger arguments going on in both of— will be bigger arguments going on in both of the two big westminster parties — both of the two big westminster parties as to whether or not this very— parties as to whether or not this very row, — parties as to whether or not this very row, who this very rail service because _ very row, who this very rail service because does it somehow dripped into the bloodstream for the vast majority _ the bloodstream for the vast majority of people who pay not a vast amount of attention to politics _ vast amount of attention to politics. there is this thing going on about— politics. there is this thing going on about labour and higher taxes.
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even _ on about labour and higher taxes. even if— on about labour and higher taxes. even if the — on about labour and higher taxes. even if the number doesn't cross their— even if the number doesn't cross their path — even if the number doesn't cross their path. versus, i suppose, that sense _ their path. versus, i suppose, that sense of— their path. versus, i suppose, that sense of does it dent the conservative believability or credibility, if there is a sense that— credibility, if there is a sense that folk— credibility, if there is a sense that folk are saying hang on a minute, — that folk are saying hang on a minute, that doesn't sound right. the thing — minute, that doesn't sound right. the thing here that the conservatives are pointing to whether a question mark over their approach is not because they are making the suggestion there might be unfunded spending commitments. they are entitled to make that suggestion or have that as an attack line as labour has done to the conservatives, it is the fact they have put a figure on it and attributed it to the treasury without the wider context. you wonder if by doing that, as chris said, they have got people talking about it for 2a hours and i don't know what that strategy is. you have to have all of that in your mind as you navigate this. it to have all of that in your mind as you navigate this.— you navigate this. it plays into that broader _ you navigate this. it plays into that broader strategy i you navigate this. it plays into that broader strategy we i you navigate this. it plays into that broader strategy we have | you navigate this. it plays into i that broader strategy we have seen from the _ that broader strategy we have seen from the conservatives in the last fortnight — from the conservatives in the last fortnight. it
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from the conservatives in the last fortniuht. , ., ., fortnight. it is now two weeks. ha - fortnight. it is now two weeks. happy anniversary! _ fortnight. it is now two weeks. happy anniversary! two i fortnight. it is now two weeks. happy anniversary! two weeksj fortnight. it is now two weeks. i happy anniversary! two weeks done and four— happy anniversary! two weeks done and four weeks to go. two weeks ago, i was _ and four weeks to go. two weeks ago, i was getting _ and four weeks to go. two weeks ago, i was getting soaked in downing street — i was getting soaked in downing street. �* , i was getting soaked in downing street. , . ., ., street. any particular garments? there is still _ street. any particular garments? there is still a _ street. any particular garments? there is still a bit _ street. any particular garments? there is still a bit more i street. any particular garments? there is still a bit more to i street. any particular garments? there is still a bit more to run i there is still a bit more to run because the office of the statistical regulator is looking into it. i have seen this happen all the time where people get reported to the watchdog and the watchdog goes that wasn't official stats, and there is no... i wonder, though, this feels like it higher at death con of that. this feels like it higher at death con of that-— this feels like it higher at death con of that. arguably last night, and it slots _ con of that. arguably last night, and it slots into _ con of that. arguably last night, and it slots into what _ con of that. arguably last night, and it slots into what we i con of that. arguably last night, and it slots into what we have i con of that. arguably last night, i and it slots into what we have seen on the _ and it slots into what we have seen on the conservative strategy of the last fortnight, which has to say stuff— last fortnight, which has to say stuff that— last fortnight, which has to say stuff that generates headlines and -rab stuff that generates headlines and grab attention. we have seen it with
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the various— grab attention. we have seen it with the various policy announcements. they had _ the various policy announcements. they had far more compared with labour— they had far more compared with labour new eye—catching policy announcements since the culling of the election. because they need to, given— the election. because they need to, given where it appears they are opinion— given where it appears they are opinion poll wise. this given where it appears they are opinion poll wise.— given where it appears they are opinion poll wise. this letter was sent to labour _ opinion poll wise. this letter was sent to labour on _ opinion poll wise. this letter was sent to labour on the _ opinion poll wise. this letter was sent to labour on the third, i opinion poll wise. this letter was sent to labour on the third, the l sent to labour on the third, the debate was on the fourth, it got leaked to our colleague on the morning of the fifth. part of me thinks the published this on the third orfourth, we wouldn't thinks the published this on the third or fourth, we wouldn't be having this conversation or it may be rishi sunak wouldn't have said it. ., , , , , be rishi sunak wouldn't have said it. labour 'ust published yesterday. we it. labourjust published yesterday. we should say _ it. labourjust published yesterday. we should say that _ it. labourjust published yesterday. we should say that explicitly i it. labourjust published yesterday. we should say that explicitly so i it. labourjust published yesterday. we should say that explicitly so as l we should say that explicitly so as to not _ we should say that explicitly so as to not imply this was published by the service. they were responding to elected _ the service. they were responding to elected that darren the shadow chief secretary— elected that darren the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, had written — secretary to the treasury, had written to _ secretary to the treasury, had written to the permanent secretary of the _ written to the permanent secretary
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of the treasury. i keep losing my train _ of the treasury. i keep losing my train of— of the treasury. i keep losing my train of thought. you of the treasury. i keep losing my train of thought.— train of thought. you have been workin: train of thought. you have been working for— train of thought. you have been working for 96 _ train of thought. you have been working for 96 hours _ train of thought. you have been working for 96 hours a i train of thought. you have been working for 96 hours a day i train of thought. you have been working for 96 hours a day for. train of thought. you have been i working for 96 hours a day for two weeks. i working for 96 hours a day for two weeks. ~ , working for 96 hours a day for two weeks. ~' , ,., weeks. i think there is something interestin: weeks. i think there is something interesting in _ weeks. i think there is something interesting in that _ weeks. i think there is something interesting in that because i weeks. i think there is something | interesting in that because labour had this letter fought two days before they chose to publish it, and there is the question about why during the debate it took as long as it did for keir starmer to shoot down that claim.— it did for keir starmer to shoot down that claim. they could have ublished down that claim. they could have published it _ down that claim. they could have published it during _ down that claim. they could have published it during the _ down that claim. they could have published it during the debate. it| published it during the debate. [it was published it during the debate. was quite published it during the debate. it was quite a way in before he even alluded to the fact this was based on outgest treasury analysis. westminster journalists would on outgest treasury analysis. westminsterjournalists would have loved the drama of that dropping. i don't have any insight as to how that unfolded within labour. i think it is not unreasonable _ that unfolded within labour. i think it is not unreasonable to _ that unfolded within labour. i think it is not unreasonable to observe l it is not unreasonable to observe that part — it is not unreasonable to observe that part of what we have seen today has been _ that part of what we have seen today has been the equal and opposite of what we _ has been the equal and opposite of what we didn't see last night. in other— what we didn't see last night. in other words, there are figures within— other words, there are figures within labour who feel keir starmer made _ within labour who feel keir starmer made a _ within labour who feel keir starmer made a mistake last night to not
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more _ made a mistake last night to not more prominently and frequently demolished that claim as it was made — demolished that claim as it was made you _ demolished that claim as it was made. you might argue that would have drawn — made. you might argue that would have drawn more attention to it, but there _ have drawn more attention to it, but there is— have drawn more attention to it, but there is an _ have drawn more attention to it, but there is an argument that perhaps he should _ there is an argument that perhaps he should have — there is an argument that perhaps he should have been more suspicious in saying _ should have been more suspicious in saying it _ should have been more suspicious in saying it is — should have been more suspicious in saying it is. no more citrus —— more vociferous — saying it is. no more citrus —— more vociferous you _ saying it is. no more citrus —— more vociferous. you had jonathan ashford this morning calling it a lie, you had rachel reeves doing a video, the shadow— had rachel reeves doing a video, the shadow chancellor, where she said i will not _ shadow chancellor, where she said i will not put — shadow chancellor, where she said i will not put any taxes on working people. — will not put any taxes on working people, national insurance, income tax and _ people, national insurance, income tax and vat — people, national insurance, income tax and vat. and keir starmer did a little clip _ tax and vat. and keir starmer did a little clip in — tax and vat. and keir starmer did a little clip in portsmouth connected to the _ little clip in portsmouth connected to the dd— little clip in portsmouth connected to the dd things about all of this. i wonder— to the dd things about all of this. i wonder if— to the dd things about all of this. i wonder if he will be a bit softer in his— i wonder if he will be a bit softer in his language thanjennifer ashworth because delword is a big word _ ashworth because delword is a big word. that is very different from
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saying _ word. that is very different from saying something might mislead or is dubious _ saying something might mislead or is dubious it _ saying something might mislead or is dubious. it is an active attempt to say in _ dubious. it is an active attempt to say in entries and he did it. —— to say in entries and he did it. —— to say it— say in entries and he did it. —— to say it is— say in entries and he did it. —— to say it is not— say in entries and he did it. —— to say it is not a _ say in entries and he did it. —— to say it is not a truth. say in entries and he did it. -- to say it is not a truth.— say in entries and he did it. -- to say it is not a truth. some of these debates do — say it is not a truth. some of these debates do not have _ say it is not a truth. some of these debates do not have a _ say it is not a truth. some of these debates do not have a long i debates do not have a long afterlife, they come, the fireworks go off, everyone goes to bed, hopefully gets the train home eventually. this has a much longer afterlife than most of these events, and secondly the liar worried, i was quite a long way into my political journalism career, when someone explain to me why they are called honourable members in parliament because you are meant to be not capable of lying. when one politician because another politician because another politician a liar, might not seem like a big deal in normal speech, but in political speech it is a big deal. but in political speech it is a big deal . but in political speech it is a big deal. ., ., ., ., ., ., deal. you have also got to wonder what that claim _ deal. you have also got to wonder what that claim and _ deal. you have also got to wonder what that claim and counterclaim, j what that claim and counterclaim, and accusation and figures does to people watching all of this and
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looking on, and thinking we are two weeks into an election campaign, and this is where we are at.— this is where we are at. thank you very much- _ this is where we are at. thank you very much- and — this is where we are at. thank you very much. and thanks _ this is where we are at. thank you very much. and thanks to i this is where we are at. thank you very much. and thanks to you i this is where we are at. thank you very much. and thanks to you as l very much. and thanks to you as well. hello. today has brought a rather chilly feel to the weather across many parts of the uk, particularly when you consider we are now intojune. that said, a bit of sunshine did make it feel relatively warm — the sun is strong at this time of year. there have been lengthy sunny spells, particularly down towards the south. further north, you can see a few more shower clouds on the satellite picture. those showers feeding in from the north—west on quite a brisk wind, which is also bringing us this supply of relatively chilly air and temperatures certainly dropping away as we go through tonight. although, this zone of cloud here sliding its way eastwards across england and wales, that mightjust hold the temperatures up a little bit. where we have the clearest of the skies, northern england, northern ireland up into scotland
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will be down into single digits, maybe close to freezing in one or two sheltered spots in the countryside. now we start tomorrow morning with a bit more cloud in the mix for some central and eastern parts of england, maybe the odd shower. that should tend to break up and then we're back to sunshine and showers. the showers most plentiful across northern areas. the odd heavy thundery one again across scotland. still quite windy in the far north, but further south, not as breezy as it has been today. those temperatures still a touch below the average for the time of year — 12 to 17 degrees covers it for most of us. now, as we move out of thursday into friday, we've still got low pressure to the north of us and this little frontal system here working its way southwards. a band of rain with that moving across scotland, northern ireland, down into northern england as we go through the day, tending to break up into something more showery. further showers racing into the north—west of scotland, where again, it will be quite windy and a bit more cloud around down towards the south. temperatures, though, a little bit higherfor some of us — 19 degrees in london, stilljust 11 for lerwick
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and for stornoway. this area of high pressure out towards the west, it is making some attempts to build its way in, but not making an awful lot of progress, so saturday, still dominated by low pressure, bringing showers or perhaps longer spells of rain across scotland. the odd shower into northern ireland, northern england, further south, not as many showers, more dry weather, some spells of sunshine. those temperatures, though, pretty much stuck in that range between 11 and 19 degrees. similar temperatures for the second half of the weekend on sunday. the showers mostly across the north, drier weather further south.
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hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. independent treasury officials have costed labour's policies, and they amount to a £2000 tax rise for every working family... 0k, let me... no, this is important. mark my words, labour will raise your taxes. this is the prime minister who has been part of the government who has put up tax 26 times. it reminds me a bit of the
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referendum, _ it reminds me a bit of the referendum, the - it reminds me a bit of the referendum, the eu i it reminds me a bit of the - referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim _ referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim on the _ referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim on the side _ referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim on the side of— referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim on the side of the - referendum, the eu referendum and fat claim on the side of the vote - fat claim on the side of the vote leave _ fat claim on the side of the vote leave bus — fat claim on the side of the vote leave bus about _ fat claim on the side of the vote leave bus about an _ fat claim on the side of the vote leave bus about an extra - fat claim on the side of the vote leave bus about an extra £350 i leave bus about an extra £350 million a — leave bus about an extra £350 million a week— leave bus about an extra £350 million a week that _ leave bus about an extra £350 million a week that the uk - leave bus about an extra £350| million a week that the uk was sending — million a week that the uk was sending to _ million a week that the uk was sending to the _ million a week that the uk was sending to the eu, _ million a week that the uk was sending to the eu, so- million a week that the uk was sending to the eu, so the - million a week that the uk was| sending to the eu, so the claim went, _ sending to the eu, so the claim went, when— sending to the eu, so the claim went, when we— sending to the eu, so the claim went, when we remember. - sending to the eu, so the claim| went, when we remember. that sending to the eu, so the claim - went, when we remember. that was wrong, _ went, when we remember. that was wrong, but _ went, when we remember. that was wrong, but there _ went, when we remember. that was wrong, but there was _ went, when we remember. that was wrong, but there was an _ went, when we remember. that was wrong, but there was an almighty i went, when we remember. that was. wrong, but there was an almighty row about— wrong, but there was an almighty row about it _ wrong, but there was an almighty row about it and — wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went— wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went to _ wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went to the _ wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went to the row - wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went to the row do? - wrong, but there was an almighty row about it. and went to the row do? it l about it. and went to the row do? it .ave about it. and went to the row do? it gave that _ about it. and went to the row do? it gave that number— about it. and went to the row do? it gave that number prominence. - a war of words over tax — rishi sunak says labour would levy £2,000 on every working family. labour says that is a lie. the tories claim civil servants approved those figures, treasury officials deny it. we will break down the numbers and get reaction from one of the red wall seats — what do the voters make of the campaign so far. also tonight — a special report from gaza. hundreds of bodies reportedly uncovered in mass graves outside the al—shifa hospital. the israeli government claimed not a single civilian was among the dead during its operation earlier this year. the bbc has found evidence, there are.
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