labour launch their manifesto — as sir keir starmer says economic growth is at the heart of his party's plan for government. we have a plan in this manifesto. a total change of direction, laser—focused on our cause, stability, growth, investment and reform. a government back in the service of your family, ready to change britain. and aid to the prime minister tells us he's sorry over betting on a july election reportedly three days before it was called. world leaders are in italy for the g7 summit. they've agreed a plan to raise billions more dollars for ukraine. and russian prosecutors say the detained american journalist evan gershkovich will go on trial for spying.

its manifesto with policy launches of the conservatives, liberal democrats, and the greens already. and today, two more. plaid cymru released its policy early this morning with the manifesto demanding fairfunding for wales and morning with the manifesto demanding fair funding for wales and more control over its natural resources. that it was the turn of the labour party, with the sleeves rolled up, party leaders to keir starmer promise that wealth creation will be the party's number one priority if they win a majority on the 4th of july. there were no policy surprises with previously announced details including 40,000 more nhs appointments each week in england, and the recruitment of 6,500 new teachers, as well as the launch of a new border security command to tackle gangs organising small boat channel crossings. sir keir promised not to raise personal taxation or vat, except on private schools. here's our political editor chris mason.

the labour movement's past and perhaps its future. it's been a good week for the printing trade, all these manifestos. leader of the labour party... keir starmer was here at the office of the cooperative almost 18 months ago to start setting out his vision for government. and, as if to underline that there would be no surprises today, he was back again. wealth creation is our number—one priority. growth is our core business — the only route to improving the prosperity of our country and the living standards of working people. not everyone in here was convinced. it's the same old tory policies! point made, it was an early escorted departure for her as sir keir responded. we gave up on being a party of protest five years ago. the labour leader said his own upbringing meant he understood the reality of many families' lives. i know what it feels like to be embarrassed to bring your mates over,

because the carpet is threadbare and the window's cracked. i was actually responsible for that, because i did put a football through it. and he emphasised his promise on tax. we will not raise income tax. we will not raise national insurance. we will not raise vat. that is a manifesto commitment. "hmm, but what about other taxes," i thought? "i'll ask him about that later." and another thing — because there may be some people here today who say, "where's the surprise? "where's the rabbit out of the hat?" to which i say, "if you want politics as pantomime, "i hear clacton is nice this time of year." laughter that, a joke at nigel farage�*s expense — this was keir starmer�*s conclusion. i invite you all tojoin our mission to stop the chaos, turn the page, and start to rebuild our country.

thank you so much. right in the thick of it now — let's see who we can grab for a word. rachel reeves, what happens if growth doesn't happen? well, i reject this idea that we can't be any better than we are today. are you going to win? well, no votes have been cast yet, and we're certainly not complacent. we're fighting for every single vote. is there enough in here to excite people? because there's nothing new, is there? this is a serious programme to deliver the change - this country needs. are you going to win? a single vote has not been cast. we are fighting hard for every vote. we take nothing for granted. you've nailed that script, haven't you? delivered itjust like that. plenty here have a message to deliver, by hand and by bus. next stop, crewe, in cheshire — and that question i want to put to keir starmer. you've been explicit about income tax, national insurance, and vat. what about capital gains tax, fuel duty and council tax? you've not been as explicit on those? well, what we've is set

out our plans in our manifesto, which is a manifesto full of hope and change for the future... but you're not being specific about those, are you? so the plans in our manifesto are set out — none of them require tax rises over and above the specific ones that we have set out well in advance actually of the manifesto. what is the plan, in those opening weeks and months? if you get the chance? to earn every vote, taking nothing for granted. we'll start the work on 40,000 appointments in the nhs to clear our backlog on waiting lists. we'll start the work on setting up great british energy, setting up our border security command, starting to recruit the 6,500 teachers we need, and starting to recruit 13,000 neighbourhood police. they are all step one — that will be the day after the election that we start on that, sleeves rolled up, hitting the ground running. there is still, though, plenty of road to trundle over in this campaign. polling day is three weeks today. chris mason, bbc news,

at the mornflake stadium, in crewe. so what do voters who deserted labour for the tories at the last election think of their plans? well, the newly—formed constituency of newton aycliffe and spennymoor, in county durham has been created largely from the former constituency of sedgefield tony blair's old seat. in 2019, many seats in this area were part of the so—called �*red wall�* — that had been staunchly labour, but which now turned to borisjohnson's conservatives. danny savage has spent the day there, finding out whether labour's pledges have changed minds. labour say they are pro—business and pro—workers. all of our customers are blue—chip companies. we have got nissan, amazon. so no surprise that they were watching what sir keir starmer had to stay today at this manufacturing firm in newton aycliffe. i'm looking for stability and, to be honest, from what he said about keeping taxes stable,

that gives me a sense of a strong government in terms of carrying on the economy without too much disruption. so it provides a good foundation for businesses and business owners to compete with foreign nations for business. we make delicious beer, unique beer. nearby, nick smith runs a brewery. he wasn't too moved by labour's plans. i would like to have seen a few more bold and brave suggestions from mr starmer. the whole message seems to be that we are better than the alternative, which is the incumbent government. and is that good enough? i think it'll be good enough for most people. he quit being a chemistry teacher to brew beer, so he also has thoughts on the manifesto pledge to get 6,500 teachers into classrooms. my ex—colleagues and friends and family who are teachers, i see their will to teach being sapped, and i think 6,500 seems like a drop in the ocean compared

to people who are leaving. this beauticians plasma is owned by 28—year—old emily. she is pleased to see a pledge to help first—time buyers. to be able to save for a house, you can do nothing and go nowhere. the element if you are really, really trying to save for the element if you are really, really trying to save— the element if you are really, really trying to save housing prices are ridiculous in relation to wages and stuff like that. it's massively difficult. katie is a mum of three is self—employed. their biggest concern is a family? i have an eight—month—old son. i have gone back to work and i am really struggling to get him into a nursery. labour, in their manifesto, are pledging 3,000 new nursery classes across the country. that's got to be good news for you, but do you think you will see one in this village? i would hope so. some people we talked to were still uncertain about who they are going to vote for next month. will the labour manifesto win them over? danny savage, bbc news, sedgefield. a former aide to the prime minister says he made "a huge error ofjudgment" when he placed a bet

on the date of the election, just days before rishi sunak called the vote. craig williams, who is standing as a conservative candidate, says the gambling commission is making "routine inquiries", with which he is co—operating. joe pike caught up with him in welshpool. politics often rewards gamblers. hello, mr williams. joe pyke from bbc news. but this bet isn't paying off. did you have inside information when you placed your bet on the election date? i have made a statement. it's an independent process with the gambling commission now. as rishi sunak�*s closest parliamentary aide, he sits behind the pm at pmqs. every time i sit behind him, i try to wear a tie. from a different part of montgomery. but what did he know when he reportedly placed £100 on there being a july election, three days before his boss's surprise announcement? did he know that you were calling a july election when he led his bet on that?

it's very disappointing news. you will have seen craig williams say it was a huge error ofjudgment. there is an independent inquiry that is ongoing, which is necessarily confidential, as well as independent. you'll appreciate that, given that, it wouldn't be appropriate to comment while that is ongoing. and mr williams is not being completely clear. i won't be expanding on that statement. did you have any inside information? i made a huge error ofjudgment. that's for sure, and i apologise, and i will be working in montgomeryshire and glyndwr on the doors now. but did you have any inside information when you placed that bet? as i said, i will not be expanding on that statement. is that because you did have inside information? i'm not expanding because it's an independent process. the gambling commission are looking at it now. all i can say is... it sounds like you did know that there was an election coming, and you were perhaps trying to take advantage of that. i will not be adding to the statement... do you see why your constituents

might feel that looks dodgy? do you have an apology, mr williams? in welshpool, while some seem to disappointed... i think it's very foolish. i don't understand why he did it. there was no need. ..others are supportive. that is really less important than the things that we're coping with in life. so you'll still vote for him? oh, yeah. the gambling commission is now investigating, because using confidential information to gain an advantage could amount to cheating, which is a criminal offence. joe pyke, bbc news, welshpool. and here's the full list of the candidates standing in the montgomeryshire and glyndebourne constituency. —— glyndwyr constituency. some breaking news, they say they've arrested a woman in connection with the death of a baby more than a0 years ago. they say the 57—year—old suspect who was arrested on

suspicion of murder in northampton on tuesday was taken to a location in the county of questioning by detectives, to arrest her in relation to the discovery of a body of a newborn baby girl in 1980. the case was subject to a major police investigation at the time, but nobody was ever prosecuted and the inquiry closed in 1993. that's a statement from northamptonshire police to say they've arrested a woman in connection with the death of a baby more than a0 years ago. let's return to the election now. plaid cymru has also set out its general election manifesto today, offering what it called a "positive vision" for wales. the party's leader, rhun ap iorwerth, said his party would "fight every day" for the billions owed to wales from the cancellation of the high speed 2 rail project. 0ur wales correspondent hywel griffith was at the launch in cardiff. no election buying of flowers, i guess?

there's a big occasion coming, and plaid cymru want voters focused on their finances. it claims wales is being short—changed and needs a new funding model — even though public spending per head here is already higher than the uk average. you want more money for wales — who gets less? of course, this is a uk government decision. as things stand, london gets more than anywhere else within the united kingdom. wales has the need. it needs better public funding than we presently get. i am arguing here for wales, because the needs here are so self—evident. so what would they do with any extra money? the manifesto pledges include recruiting 500 new gps and an extra £20 per week in child benefit. there's also a promise to eventually rejoin the eu. there'd be tax increases, too. the message pitched towards traditional labour voters, drawing them towards a nationalist party, careful not to scare them away.

in your speech, you covered a lot of ground. there was one word was missing — can you guess what it was? carry on. independence. you didn't mention it once in your speech. i had to go to page a2 in your manifesto to find a reference. do you just accept it's not a vote—winner? well, listen, you're asking me now about independence, because you're talking to the leader of a pro—independence political party. you know, people know that we're in favour of independence. i talk openly about my desire for wales to take the levers of change. not in your speech, you didn't, you didn't mention it a single time. what have you got in your hands there, hywel? page a2, that's where the independence is. it's our manifesto, which includes independence, because we believe that wales won't reach its potential until we take those levers of change into our own hands. all right then, shall be it a go? plaid's own destiny depends on persuading people on the doorstep it can make a difference in westminster, notjust in wales. hywel griffith, bbc news. the liberal democrats are calling for extra money to help young carers

with their education. sir ed davey wants to provide extra financial support for schools to help young people who balance care responsbilities with their education. latest figures show that around 30% of young carers are missing school. the snp leader, john swinney, was in leith to wish the scotland men's national team well in the euros, along with a message about his party's stance on the european union. mr swinney said returning to the eu as an independent country would be the "next best thing" to scotland getting to the final of the tournament. the green party has temporarily removed an online version of its manifesto, after it was criticised for using an image of an ill man to illustrate its policy on hiv. the greens launched their manifesto yesterday. the image appeared in the easy—read version of the document. some users on social media suggested it was misleading and stigmatising. the green party said it had taken action after being alerted to how the image "could be misinterpreted".

the american journalist evan gershkovich is to face trial in russia on charges of espionage. mr gershkovich was detained in the city of yekaterinburg in march 2023, while working for the wall streetjournal. he has been accused of working for the cia, and collecting secret information on a tank factory. the us government says he was "wrongfully detained" and says it is working to secure his release. earlier, we heard from our russia editor steve rosenberg. more than 1a months in pre—trial detention, and today, the prosecutor's office issued a short statement saying that mr gershkovich's case will now be sent to court and go to trial — not in moscow — but will be heard by the sverdlovsk regional court, in yekaterinburg, 1,000 miles away — that's the city where the american journalist was arrested last year. what else did prosecutors say? they claim that he had

been working for the cia and collecting information about a russian tank factory. now all along, evan gershkovich, his employer, the wall streetjournal, the us government have vehemently denied the charge of espionage — they say he was simply doing his job as a journalist. and, of course, we've had responses over the time from the wall streetjournal. they have said, on more than one occasion, that moscow is stockpiling americans in russia in order to be able to trade them at some point in the future. that is the fear of what is really going on here. absolutely, yes — and to be honest, russian officials haven't really hid the fact that they view evan gershkovich as a bargaining chip. let me just tell you something that vladimir putin said on this subject a few days ago. he was speaking to the heads of international news agencies in saint petersburg — he was asked about evan djokovic, and he said this.

he said, "i know," putin said, "that the us administration is taking energetic steps to try to release even djokovic. but such issues," putin said, "are decided or should be decided not through the media. they like a quiet, calm, professional approach and dialogue between the secret services." he didn't mention the courts — secret services. "and of course," putin said "they should be decided on the basis of reciprocity." in other words, vladimir putin making it clear last week, as he has done in the past, that he sees evan gershkovich as in return for mr gershkovich's release, the russians want one of their own — it's absolutely clear. meanwhile, this case is now going to trial. there will be a trial, no date has been announced for the start of it. that does not mean, however,

that talks will stop behind the scenes between the us administration and the russian authorities. clearly there has been a dialogue going on. we don't know what stage things are at, but that will probably continue. steve rosenberg there. in the last few hours... a senior white house official says the leaders have agreed on using $50 billion in interest from frozen russian assets to extend a loan to ukraine. we are waiting for a press conference is expected to be taking place there. german chancellor 0laf scholz said the bases had been created for ukraine to be in a position to procure everything it needs, including weapons and investment in infrastructure. in a separate development, presidents biden and zelensky have signed a security agreement to last ten years. let's speak to mark lowen who is in bari. we are waiting for president biden and volodymyr zelensky who are expected to speak at a press

conference about this agreement. indeed, you can see the us and ukrainian flags lined up they are, in this press conference is a little bit delayed — timekeeping perhaps not always the top of these summits's achievements, but that significant achievement on the other hand is indeed this dealfor ukraine to get a $50 billion loan that's been signed off by g7 leaders. now how will that work? russia has about $300 billion worth of assets largely in europe that have been frozen since russia launched its full—scale invasion of ukraine. now those assets generate interest, about $3 billion worth of interest every year. what the g7 leaders have agreed is that they will use that interest as collateral to raise a loan on the international markets for $50 billion, that they will be able to give to ukraine — they are

hoping to give it to ukraine at the end of this year, a much needed loan for cash starved anti—war rear ukraine. the question is exactly who will be providing the money for that loan does make some of those details are still to be worked out — g7 finance ministers are going through the detail now. the us has already said it will be happy to stump up the vast majority of it, but obviously the aim is to have as many countries involved as possible to have that broad consensus, so ursula von der leyen, who's also here as part of this g7, where the eu is represented, she said all g7 countries will contribute to that loan. it will also probably get contributions from the wider european union. so that's been welcomed of course by volodymyr zelensky — he is also called for a marshall plan akin to the marshall

plan that was used after the second world war in order to rebuild ukraine after or when the guns fall silent. and there's been a separate ten year defence and security deal struck with the us, which we will hear more about when this press conference gets under way, for the us to guarantee ukraine's security and defence for ten years — that's intended to be a long—lasting deal they could outlast any political change in the us, not least this november when a different administration with a different view of ukraine and russia could come back into the white house. mark, for now, back into the white house. mark, for now. thank — back into the white house. mark, for now. thank you. _ back into the white house. mark, for now, thank you, and _ back into the white house. mark, for now, thank you, and we _ back into the white house. mark, for now, thank you, and we will - back into the white house. mark, for now, thank you, and we will keep - back into the white house. mark, for now, thank you, and we will keep an | now, thank you, and we will keep an eye on that press conference and take you to it if and when president biden and volodymyr zelensky appear. rishi sunak spoke earlier about his support package for ukraine... prime minister, if the _ support package for ukraine... prime minister, if the polls _ support package for ukraine... prime minister, if the polls are _ support package for ukraine... prime minister, if the polls are to _ support package for ukraine... prime minister, if the polls are to be - minister, if the polls are to be believed, this could be your last g7

summit. believed, this could be your last g7 summit- do — believed, this could be your last g7 summit- do you — believed, this could be your last g7 summit. do you think _ believed, this could be your last g7 summit. do you think you've - believed, this could be your last g7 i summit. do you think you've secured a legacy on the world stage, and if so, what do you think that is? we've had a very productive _ so, what do you think that is? we've had a very productive set _ so, what do you think that is? we've had a very productive set of - had a very productive set of meetings today, particularly on ukraine where i've been discussing with my colleagues a game changing pass package of support for ukraine that would be funded by the prophets on the seas russian assets. this is something i and the uk have personally championed and led on for a while now, so it's very positive to see it close to the finish line. it'll make an enormous difference and demonstrates the g7 is absolute united in everything it can to support ukraine to defend itself against russia.— support ukraine to defend itself against russia. labour have lunch there manifesto _ against russia. labour have lunch there manifesto today, _ against russia. labour have lunch there manifesto today, focusing l against russia. labour have lunch l there manifesto today, focusing on wealth creation and economic stability. is it the case of the conservatives's mismanagement of the economy means you are no longer credible on these issues? tiara credible on these issues? two manifestos — credible on these issues? two manifestos this _ credible on these issues? two manifestos this week - credible on these issues? twr manifestos this week and there's a clear choice in the selection. we published a manifesto that will cut taxes for people in this country, and the labour manifesto published

was clear texas will only rise. multiple independent sources demonstrated taxes will rise under labour to the highest levels in history. if i'm reelected, will cut taxes for people at every stage of their life. cutting taxes for people at work, who are self—employed, buying the first home, for pensioners and taxes for families— i want to —— i believe everyone should keep more of their hard earned money and the choice is crystal clear at this junction. and the choice is crystal clear at thisjunction. if you and the choice is crystal clear at this junction. if you want your taxes cut, vote conservative, and under labour taxes will raise to the highest level in history. nevertheless, the polls show that people are quite liking labour's message and not yours. your defence secretary has warned of a super majority for labour. is that your party accepting defeat, are you now in damage limitation mode?- in damage limitation mode? we've 'ust in damage limitation mode? we've just published _ in damage limitation mode? we've just published a — in damage limitation mode? we've just published a manifesto - in damage limitation mode? we've just published a manifesto this - in damage limitation mode? -- just published a manifesto this week that sets out our clear plan for the country, the bold actions we are prepared to take, whether that's

modern form of national insurance, increasing defence spending, a decision made increasingly more relevant by the discussions i've been having here at the g7, creating 100,000 new apprenticeships, and cutting taxes for people at every stage of their lives, as well as reducing migration and adopting a sensible approach to net zero. that's what our manifesto does — in contrast this week, you've seen actually no new ideas from labour, they are asking the country for a blank check without telling the country what they'll do with it and how much it'll cost them. but we now know it'll cost everybody £2000 how much it'll cost them. but we now know it'll cost everybody e2000 and higher taxes. that's something i'll fight very hard to make sure it doesn't happen until the last day of the selection.— the selection. your parliamentary -rivate the selection. your parliamentary private secretary, _ the selection. your parliamentary private secretary, craig _ the selection. your parliamentary private secretary, craig williams, j private secretary, craig williams, did he know you were calling a july election when he laid his bet on that? it election when he laid his bet on that? ., , , election when he laid his bet on that? , , that? it was very disappointing news, that? it was very disappointing news. and _ that? it was very disappointing news, and you'll _ that? it was very disappointing news, and you'll have - that? it was very disappointing news, and you'll have seen - that? it was very disappointing i news, and you'll have seen craig williams say it was a huge error of judgment. there is an independent inquiry that's ongoing which is necessarily confidential, as well as

independent — and you'll appreciate that given that, it wouldn't be appropriate for me to comment while that's ongoing. but appropriate for me to comment while that's ongoing-— that's ongoing. but you must know whether he — that's ongoing. but you must know whether he knew, _ that's ongoing. but you must know whether he knew, it _ that's ongoing. but you must know whether he knew, it was _ that's ongoing. but you must know whether he knew, it was a - that's ongoing. but you must know whether he knew, it was a very - whether he knew, it was a very tightly guarded secret.- whether he knew, it was a very tightly guarded secret. given the nature of the _ tightly guarded secret. given the nature of the inquiry, _ tightly guarded secret. given the nature of the inquiry, which - tightly guarded secret. given the nature of the inquiry, which is i nature of the inquiry, which is confidential and independent, nature of the inquiry, which is confidentialand independent, it confidential and independent, it would confidentialand independent, it would not be properfor me confidentialand independent, it would not be proper for me to comment on that stop what have they spoken to you? it wouldn't be right for me to comment on the inquiry while ongoing. you'll understand that the inquiry is confidential and independent. mil that the inquiry is confidential and independent-— independent. all the parties are - re ared independent. all the parties are prepared to _ independent. all the parties are prepared to take _ independent. all the parties are prepared to take place - independent. all the parties are prepared to take place on - independent. all the parties are prepared to take place on a - independent. all the parties are i prepared to take place on a debate on itv tonight. seven senior members of the major parties go head to head again. penny mordaunt for the conservatives, and angela rayner for labour, will be alongside daisy cooperfor the lib dems, stephen flynn for the snp, the green party's carla denyer, rhun ap iorwerth for plaid cymru, and nigel farage, the leader of reform uk. let's speak to our political correspondent damian grammaticas, who's in the spin room.

about an hour to go then? that's riaht, about an hour to go then? that's right. and _ about an hour to go then? that's right. and this — about an hour to go then? that's right, and this is _ about an hour to go then? that's right, and this is the _ about an hour to go then? that's right, and this is the spin room, | right, and this is the spin room, the debate itself shortly to get under way in a studio just nearby. so watching very closely, viewers watching closely, but who will also be watching closely? it's all the parties, the mps who have been watching the campaign so far will be here to give their spin on it. and we have some advance spin for you. we have david davis for the conservative party —— david davies. spin aside, we've had today the labour party launching there manifesto — i'm wondering if you actually are slightly envious in a way that the labour campaign seems to be rolling along without too much disruption. are you thinking they are doing a betterjob then you're parties? are doing a better “ob then you're arties? , , , are doing a better “ob then you're arties? , , f' parties? this is my 11th campaign, i've parties? this is my 11th campaign, we fought — parties? this is my 11th campaign, we fought ten _ parties? this is my 11th campaign, i've fought ten before, _ parties? this is my 11th campaign, i've fought ten before, and - parties? this is my 11th campaign, i've fought ten before, and two i i've fought ten before, and two things— i've fought ten before, and two things come to mind. there are

always— things come to mind. there are always bumps, errors and mistakes, and so _ always bumps, errors and mistakes, and so on _ always bumps, errors and mistakes, and so on. mostly they end up not mattering — and so on. mostly they end up not mattering too much, they are terribly — mattering too much, they are terribly important in the moment but they don't— terribly important in the moment but they don't affect the vote because they don't affect the vote because the vote _ they don't affect the vote because the vote is— they don't affect the vote because the vote is about people's futures. two manifestos this week, labour's today, _ two manifestos this week, labour's today, and — two manifestos this week, labour's today, and that's what matters. i'm hard-hitteu— today, and that's what matters. i'm hard—bitten enough to realise that all this— hard—bitten enough to realise that all this flash and bang matters less than the _ all this flash and bang matters less than the substance. can all this flash and bang matters less than the substance.— than the substance. can i ask you about the bumps? _ than the substance. can i ask you about the bumps? there - than the substance. can i ask you about the bumps? there are - than the substance. can i ask you | about the bumps? there are some bumps that stick in people's mind, the premise or leaving dd early — you have a military background, what you have a military background, what you think of that? —— de day. i was you think of that? -- de day. i was there in the _ you think of that? -- de day. i was there in the 65th _ you think of that? -- de day. i was there in the 65th when _ you think of that? -- de day. i was there in the 65th when there - you think of that? —— de day. i was there in the 65th when there were a lot more _ there in the 65th when there were a lot more veterans around. i remember gordon— lot more veterans around. i remember gordon brown... you'll like this isn't _ gordon brown... you'll like this isn't about— gordon brown... you'll like this isn't about gordon brown, this is rishi _ isn't about gordon brown, this is rishi sunak. we isn't about gordon brown, this is rishi sunak-— rishi sunak. we had a lot of nonsense — rishi sunak. we had a lot of nonsense from _ rishi sunak. we had a lot of nonsense from the - rishi sunak. we had a lot of nonsense from the labour l rishi sunak. we had a lot of - nonsense from the labour party who want to bring gordon brown into this. i've been to military

functions, even in this week, i've been to more than anybody in this building put together because of my background. people don't like it, he made a mistake — but truth be told. made a mistake - but truth be told, the are made a mistake - but truth be told, they are moving _ made a mistake - but truth be told, they are moving onto _ made a mistake — but truth be told, they are moving onto issues that relate _ they are moving onto issues that relate them. tax they are moving onto issues that relate them-— relate them. tax a big issue - leader has _ relate them. tax a big issue - leader has been _ relate them. tax a big issue - leader has been putting - relate them. tax a big issue - leader has been putting out . relate them. tax a big issue - l leader has been putting out tax relate them. tax a big issue - - leader has been putting out tax cuts that he wants to make, but that doesn't seem to be driving any change. doesn't seem to be driving any chance. ., , ., doesn't seem to be driving any chance. ., i. ., change. the other thing you learn after all these _ change. the other thing you learn after all these years _ change. the other thing you learn after all these years is _ change. the other thing you learn after all these years is that - change. the other thing you learn after all these years is that the i after all these years is that the polls _ after all these years is that the polls are — after all these years is that the polls are always wrong by somewhere between _ polls are always wrong by somewhere between 6—20% — that's the range of over ten— between 6—20% — that's the range of over ten years. so you don't worry about— over ten years. so you don't worry about that _ over ten years. so you don't worry about that so much and what it does to people's — about that so much and what it does to people's thought process. they'll take time _ to people's thought process. they'll take time to observe it. we've got tax-cutting — take time to observe it. we've got tax—cutting in general, £18 billion in tax _ tax—cutting in general, £18 billion in tax cuts — tax—cutting in general, £18 billion in tax cuts. labour's manifesto today— in tax cuts. labour's manifesto today says _ in tax cuts. labour's manifesto today says as little as i can get away _ today says as little as i can get away with. resolution foundation, a very left—wing policy institute, says _ very left—wing policy institute, says it's — very left—wing policy institute, says it's a _ very left—wing policy institute,

says it's a tax increasing parliament. the ifs said the same, the bbc_ parliament. the ifs said the same, the bbc said the same — and we haven't— the bbc said the same — and we haven't even got to the point of looking — haven't even got to the point of looking at— haven't even got to the point of looking at the guardian's publication which said what 12 tax rises _ publication which said what 12 tax rises coming in september. so people will start— rises coming in september. so people will start thing about that and saying. — will start thing about that and saying, "what does that mean for me?" _ saying, "what does that mean for me?" most — saying, "what does that mean for me?" most people's vote is determined by what happens to them, their parents and children.— their parents and children. people also look at _ their parents and children. people also look at their _ their parents and children. people also look at their own _ their parents and children. people also look at their own experience | also look at their own experience and know that taxes have actually been going up, they've gone to the highest in 70 years, and other can of dust under the conservatives, they'll still go up. it's not cutting through, do you think the prime minister needs to do something different to try and change? he's only got half of the campaign left. 0nly only got half of the campaign left. only three weeks, which is what it would _ only three weeks, which is what it would take — only three weeks, which is what it would take entirely in thatcher's day. people understand we've had the pandemic, _ day. people understand we've had the pandemic, we fed ukraine...